'Enable 3G' Setting in iPhone Firmware NOT Fake

[MacRumors]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

There are circulating claims (http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/21/3g-iphone-screen-shot-faked-but-dont-worry-we-think-its-stil/) that the 'Enable 3G' setting screenshot (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/10/latest-iphone-2-0-firmware-has-3g-on-off-option/) in the latest iPhone 2.0 Beta was faked.

Asking whether or not the screenshot is fake is like asking if a perfect digital replica of a photo is fake. The story remains the same regardless of the answer. As mentioned in the original story, the exact wording and text from the screenshot appears in Apple's iPhone 2.0 firmware:


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/05/21/193259-3gstrings.png


Apple expects the 3G option in the upcoming iPhone to impact battery life enough that it offers the user and option to turn it off.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/21/enable-3g-setting-in-iphone-firmware-not-fake/)

[ben5959]

this should put to ease all of the whiners that complained about the 3G Battery life sucking!

[Wigletbill]

I'll believe it when I see it (in two weeks).

[gugy]

Fake Or Not I Want 3g And 3g Will Be Here At Wwdc!

[twoodcc]

good. i'm looking forward to this ;)

[sassenach74]

I assume this is in response to my submission to you Arn? :p

[Matthew Yohe]

this should put to ease all of the whiners that complained about the 3G Battery life sucking!

How does it do that?

[Lord Nerdos]

Please, please, please... don't let it be DoCoMo!!!! Softbank PLEASE!!!

... In Japan

[arn]

Here's the full story for anyone who cares.

1. 3G screenshot posted by an 'unofficial developer'.
2. it gets a lot of press
3. 'unofficial developer'. gets accepted into iPhone Dev program.
4. He posts in a "wink-wink" disclaimer later: "oh, that wasn't a real screenshot, I just photoshoped it and it was a big coincidence" so he doesn't get in trouble from Apple for posting it in the first place
5. a site (http://www.ismashphone.com/2008/05/do-you-remember.html) that can't read between the lines posted it as truth.

The screenshot is legit.

btw, here's a video with someone using the 3G switch on an iPhone (37 seconds in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk1rUtQJxMg

arn

[hondje]

I believe the photo was NOT fake. Even if it was, the concept certainly isn't. It is a little similar to being able to turn of Wifi. I will welcome this feature, but I doubt I will have much trouble with battery usage. Most of my phone usage is in the car: car charger = full battery.

WWDC hurry up!!!!

[yopp111]

Here's the full story for anyone who cares.

1. 3G screenshot posted by an 'unofficial developer'.
2. it gets a lot of press
3. 'unofficial developer'. gets accepted into iPhone Dev program.
4. He posts in a "wink-wink" disclaimer later: "oh, that wasn't a real screenshot, I just photoshoped it and it was a big coincidence" so he doesn't get in trouble from Apple for posting it in the first place
5. sites that can't read between the lines post it as truth.

The screenshot was legit.

arn

thanks, i didnt understand the first post at all until you said that

[Matthew Yohe]

Oh also, here is a video of the preferences "in action"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk1rUtQJxMg

[hondje]

ARN you rock!

[Jackattack]

Did anyone else notice a slight bit of hostility in that post? It didn't read like any MacRumors post I've ever seen... lol maybe someone has just had enough.

[red41]

18 days 16 hours and 3 minutes till WWDC.

[chuckles:)]

Grammar's a bit funny here.

Whether or not the actual screenshot was faked or not is like asking if someone drew an exact digital replica of a screenshot, does that make it fake?

Maybe something like "Asking whether or not the screenshot is fake is like asking if a perfect digital replica of a photo is fake. It might be, but who cares?"

[admin edit: changed it in the story, thanks - arn]

[viqas]

that screen shot is obviously fake

[auyongtc]

*hops on the iPhone tram*

For those of you without a 3G phone before, (almost?) all 3G phones have the option to set whether you want to run 3G at all times, or stick to 2G (GSM w/ GPRS/EDGE/etc) mainly to improve battery life.

Having support for that option means :apple: is getting one step closer to having a 3G iPhone. Hmm, since when did Apple start putting standard features to their products? :rolleyes:

*hops off*

[extraextra]

How does it do that?

If you care more about your battery, turn 3G off. If you want 3G, you have to take the bad with the good.

[Mykbibby]

eh?

Ya, that was exactly my reaction. What's that all about?

[tomjleeds]

Apple expects the 3G option in the upcoming iPhone to impact battery life enough that it offers the user and option to turn it off.

Jeebus! Are you 'mericans so devoid of 3G that you don't listen to us Europeans going on and on and on and on about how pretty much every 3G phone on the market has the option to use only 2G networks?! Yes, it gives the user the option, but so does every other phone, this isn't new!

[sassenach74]

Jeebus! Are you 'mericans so devoid of 3G that you don't listen to us Europeans going on and on and on and on about how pretty much every 3G phone on the market has the option to use only 2G networks?! Yes, it gives the user the option, but so does every other phone, this isn't new!


I don't think that is the point of this thread

[kornyboy]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

We will see soon enough. I think it may be a very useful option.

[TheSlush]

Ah, a MacRumors simile...

[AidenShaw]

Most of my phone usage is in the car: car charger = full battery.

Hope that you're using a hands-free setup so that you don't kill someone....

(If you kill yourself, that's just Darwin in action... ;) )

[zephead]

I don't think I'm convinced enough yet that an iPhone with 3G is coming out. I'll need a bit more evidence if I'm to believe this. ;)

[Trainwreck707]

It seems like some people just come to this site to click negative on all the rumors.

[minik]

non sense.

[ro2nie]

Jeebus! Are you 'mericans so devoid of 3G that you don't listen to us Europeans going on and on and on and on about how pretty much every 3G phone on the market has the option to use only 2G networks?! Yes, it gives the user the option, but so does every other phone, this isn't new!

You could have said that in a better way with less arrogance.

[kgeier82]

so what if 3g and wifi are on at the same time? Same relationship as edge/wifi?

im sure the phone will have some feature to turn off the 3g if not necessary, why the hell not? it increases apples battery claim!

[pcorrado]

OK so this is my first post here (long time stalker)- so forgive me if this has been discussed before, but why would the enable 3G option be available on the regular iPhone? Furthermore, why would it default to "off?" I assume that if this is real, it just there for development reasons, but without the hardware, why have it?

[macenforcer]

wait just a second, do you mean to say apple is coming out with a 3g iphone?


Who cares about 3g, I'm waiting for apple to put a freakin touchscreen on the iphone. Then I will buy.

:D

[billystlyes]

It seems like some people just come to this site to click negative on all the rumors.

I really like Macrumors, but I think that's because some of the articles are getting repetitive. JMHO

[Doctor Q]

arn posted a comment at ismashphone.com about their misinterpreted story.

Unless the comment was from a fake arn.

[Ti_Poussin]

Hope that you're using a hands-free setup so that you don't kill someone....

(If you kill yourself, that's just Darwin in action... ;) )

Yessss, Darwin award!

Is there any Darwin award related to Mac?! :rolleyes:

[Teh Don Ditty]

so what if 3g and wifi are on at the same time? Same relationship as edge/wifi?

Your battery dies in about 5 minutes.

[pcorrado]

OK so this is my first post here (long time stalker)- so forgive me if this has been discussed before, but why would the enable 3G option be available on the regular iPhone? Furthermore, why would it default to "off?" I assume that if this is real, it just there for development reasons, but without the hardware, why have it?

never mind i just read a post I missed before - that this feature was hacked, therefore the option should only be there for actual 3G devices.

[kgarr]

Borat say: "The option is NOT fake"

[stephenli]

It is a very common function on ordinary 3G phones.
my 3 years old SHARP 903SH can switch between GSM and WCDMA.
Apple is very very concern on battery usage and hence the wordings on the Enable / Disable 3G appears like that.

[thogs_cave]

For those of you without a 3G phone before, (almost?) all 3G phones have the option to set whether you want to run 3G at all times, or stick to 2G (GSM w/ GPRS/EDGE/etc) mainly to improve battery life.

I'm still wondering if 3G is worth it or not. I got my 16G iPhone in April as a birthday present (milestone birthday), and some friends suggested that we should've waited until the 3G. But, for what i do, EDGE works fine, and most of the time I'm near an 802.11b/g WAP. Battery life, however, is a big thing.

I wonder, will Apple beef up the battery for 3G?

[Surely]

You could have said that in a better way with less arrogance.

Americans understand arrogance. :D I kid, I kid.

Anyway..... it will take a lot more than just 3G to get me to upgrade to the new iPhone. I'm around wifi 95% of the time (at work and at home). If I need internet otherwise, EDGE has served me well.

My anticipation lies with the AppStore and the new firmware.

[AidenShaw]

I'm still wondering if 3G is worth it or not. I got my 16G iPhone in April...

If you already have 16G, why even ask about 3G?

[zorinlynx]

Interesting.

3G may use more power, but won't it use more power for less time since you're downloading faster?

Example, a page takes 20 seconds to download with EDGE, but only 5 seconds with 3G. Doesn't that mean that even if 3G uses more power, the overall energy consumption will be lower or the same since you use it for less time?

[ntrigue]

I am a bit lost as to why the 3G iPhone is 'unconfirmed'. This IS happening in the month of June; look at the evidence.

[FightTheFuture]

it actually makes me a little happy to see Engadget get schooled from their "3G iPhone screen shot faked" post. maybe its the type of comments that are left for iPhone stories - but i've never liked the reporting on that blog.

[benspratling]

I got this from the strings file guys! Looks like Apple has really outdone themselves!

Asking whether or not the screenshot is fake is like asking if a perfect digital replica of a photo is fake.


Of course the new iPhone has 3G. Mr. Jobs said Apple was on the "3G bandwagon" when he announced the iPhone in January '07

[chequepoint]

If you already have 16G, why even ask about 3G?

Apple is going to have to do something to market to/educate all the mouth breathers with questions like this. I've heard this about a hundred times, along with "Did I miss the 2G iphone"..

[migsan]

of course we'll have 3G on the new Iphone. Vodafone POrtugal said that they would only have 3g Iphone. Now they confirmed that they ll sell it.

[frankly]

Moved to a different thread.

[ruutiveijari]

Why is it mandatory to post at least two "3G!!!" -news items every day? Everyone knows 3G is coming and almost every 3G phone has the option of turning it off.

So what's the actual rumor/news here?

[edesignuk]

To argue a screen shot is fake seems a pretty mute point anyway. Hell would have to freeze over for there not to be a 3G iPhone release in a matter of weeks. With regard the on/off setting, that's to be expected too, almost all 3G phone have the ability to turn it off in order to save battery life.

[MacFly123]

Interesting.

3G may use more power, but won't it use more power for less time since you're downloading faster?

Example, a page takes 20 seconds to download with EDGE, but only 5 seconds with 3G. Doesn't that mean that even if 3G uses more power, the overall energy consumption will be lower or the same since you use it for less time?

Good question. I really think that it will at least be very close to the current battery life or else Steve wouldn't have gone for it yet. But I think they will have beefed up the battery a bit to compensate which is why it is rumored to be a hair thicker.

Anyone in here have the knowledge to answer his query?

[voodoofish]

when i had a 3G phone before the thing that got me to switch off 3G wasn't because 3G itself used up loads of battery, but because where i live there is 3g signal but if i move around my house or even my room sometimes it gets weak enough that the phone will fall back to GSM, but whenever it falls back to GSM it searches to see if there's a 3G network and if it can find one will switch back to it... i found my phone permanently doing this all the time as i moved around my house reduced the battery life loads! but when i was somewhere with solid 3G signal the battery life wasn't too bad, so maybe this is why apple have included the option - not because the 3G iphone is going to have terrible battery life, but rather because in certain situations where 3G signal is bad the switching between 3G and GSM all the time would hurt the battery life?

[PowerFullMac]

Now, all you need for proof yourself is to install the iPhone Simulator and type that Terminal command that that guy did!

I never thought it was fake anyway, we KNOW there is a 3G iPhone coming on June 9th, its almost certain!

[fraggle]

I don't think that is the point of this thread

No, but the article makes it sound like Apple has special concerns about the battery life to implement such a switch. But every 3G phone has one so there's nothing special to it.

[TonyHoyle]

Good question. I really think that it will at least be very close to the current battery life or else Steve wouldn't have gone for it yet. But I think they will have beefed up the battery a bit to compensate which is why it is rumored to be a hair thicker.

Anyone in here have the knowledge to answer his query?

In a good 3G area you're not going to see any battery life difference anyway - experiments with my N95 ages ago showed no difference at all around here... I believe the difference comes from fringe areas where the phone will increase power to find a 3G tower in preference over a possibly closer 2G one.

If you switch wifi off then you may even get an improvement - wifi is a pretty major battery hog too.

[captain kaos]

Interesting.

3G may use more power, but won't it use more power for less time since you're downloading faster?

Example, a page takes 20 seconds to download with EDGE, but only 5 seconds with 3G. Doesn't that mean that even if 3G uses more power, the overall energy consumption will be lower or the same since you use it for less time?

This theory does work for the downloading, yes it will load pages very quickly compared to EDGE/2g but 3g saps the battery a lot even if you're NOT downloading/surfing the web, ie, in the background. In the UK we've had 3g on most phones for at least a couple of years and i leave mine off. At the moment i've just got a SE W880i so web browsing isn't exactly exciting! (very small screen, so i don't really web browse) but having 3g on really kills the battery standby time!

I suppose the point to the whole iphone/3g thing is you have the option to turn it on when your going to do some heavy web browsing or music downloading via iTunes, which will be the main point to 3g.

On a slight tangent to this subject i think for me everyone is getting very excited about the 3g aspect to the next version of iphone, but if its just a form change and 3g then i dont think i'll be scrabling to get one, in other words ole steve has to have something else up his sleeves in June! The 3g rumours has definately deflected everyone attention to the point something else, GPS (which is another rumour) is going to really swing it to make everyone update to/buy the new version.

[Dagless]

Eh, how is this bad news? They've giving you the option to shut off 3G if you don't need it... Is it even possible to give that concept the thumbs down?

[mjenkinson05]

Am i the only one thats not surprised by this? Although its great that Apple are finally moving towards 21st century products (although i have no doubt this was there plan from the start) doesn't every 3G phone have the capability to turn it off, and switch back to the original 2G or EDGE networks? I know my nokia n80 did a few years ago when i had 3G problems!

[raskar]

fake or not.. so what??!! Its obvious 3G is coming, yes it might have an impact on the battery life.. 3G feature hardly a big surprise!! Its been talked about since the release of the iPhone!!
Any better rumours? Am sure apple have something for us on Jobs next appearance :cool::apple:

[iSlave]

A 3G iPHONE??? FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT!!!!!!!!

[Sabenth]

can i just ask and this may seem rather silly but why would a 3g phone of any kind not just iphone need 3g turned off yes granted 3g battary life is some times rubish just depends on what your doing with your phone such as playing music as well as surfing the net..


Just seems kind of daft to me

[orpheus1120]

You could have said that in a better way with less arrogance.

Arrogance also comes to those who refused to believe about the 3G setting from those who actually use 3G phones before.

Where was the kind consideration for these people then?

[Shagrat]

Why is it mandatory to post at least two "3G!!!" -news items every day? Everyone knows 3G is coming and almost every 3G phone has the option of turning it off.

So what's the actual rumor/news here?


Slow news week(s)?

[macFanDave]

not sucking hard when it is used with 3G!

I listen to podcasts all day at work with Wi-fi off, EDGE on, and the battery indicator barely budges from full. I used Wi-fi for less than an hour the other day, and ate up more than half of the battery life.

If Steve found that the effect of Wi-Fi on battery life was acceptable, but 3G was not, I'll bet that 3G's effect on the battery must've been dramatic. So, either they've drastically improved 3G technology in the past few months or the whiners are going to get their wish: a 3G iPhone that works for a half an hour between charges.

[captain kaos]

can i just ask and this may seem rather silly but why would a 3g phone of any kind not just iphone need 3g turned off yes granted 3g battary life is some times rubish just depends on what your doing with your phone such as playing music as well as surfing the net..


Just seems kind of daft to me

As per my other post, it doesnt matter if you're surfing the web or not, just having 3g on drains the battery a lot.

My SE W880i, thin, so a small battery last at least a week (on 24hrs a day) with normal use (calls, texts) without 3g on, with it on i'll get 4 days standby, normal use.

[Shagrat]

not sucking hard when it is used with 3G!

I listen to podcasts all day at work with Wi-fi off, EDGE on, and the battery indicator barely budges from full. I used Wi-fi for less than an hour the other day, and ate up more than half of the battery life.

If Steve found that the effect of Wi-Fi on battery life was acceptable, but 3G was not, I'll bet that 3G's effect on the battery must've been dramatic. So, either they've drastically improved 3G technology in the past few months or the whiners are going to get their wish: a 3G iPhone that works for a half an hour between charges.

I wonder how much this will be affected by the size of the network..I'm no expert here, just asking!

i.e. if the 3g network masts are fewer and farther between, won't the phone be trying to "talk" to a possibly more distant mast, therefore using more power?

Maybe someone could elucidate!

[captain kaos]

not sucking hard when it is used with 3G!

I listen to podcasts all day at work with Wi-fi off, EDGE on, and the battery indicator barely budges from full. I used Wi-fi for less than an hour the other day, and ate up more than half of the battery life.

If Steve found that the effect of Wi-Fi on battery life was acceptable, but 3G was not, I'll bet that 3G's effect on the battery must've been dramatic. So, either they've drastically improved 3G technology in the past few months or the whiners are going to get their wish: a 3G iPhone that works for a half an hour between charges.


Yeah, im kinda with you on this one. I fully believe that the only way we'll get decent battery life with all the new technology coming into phones these days (3g, GPS, Video+music playback) is when we make the next step in battery technology, which doesnt seem to be forthcoming....but thats another thread/topic!

But basically im hoping that in the last 18 months between the development of the v1 iphone and now there's been a big jump in 3g chips/power consumption and that Steve hasn't buckled and just chucked in 3g to plicate the consumers that really, really want 3g. If thats the case we will be looking at charging the v2 iphone every day!!:eek:

Having said that i dont think uncle steve would let that happen (cross fingers!)

[captain kaos]

I wonder how much this will be affected by the size of the network..I'm no expert here, just asking!

i.e. if the 3g network masts are fewer and farther between, won't the phone be trying to "talk" to a possibly more distant mast, therefore using more power?

Maybe someone could elucidate!



Here's a quick geeky 3g cells link for anyone thats interested!

http://www.three-g.org.uk/works5.php

[PowerFullMac]

Yeah, im kinda with you on this one. I fully believe that the only way we'll get decent battery life with all the new technology coming into phones these days (3g, GPS, Video+music playback) is when we make the next step in battery technology, which doesnt seem to be forthcoming....

You sure about that? (http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/20/i-coloured-mobiles-zj268-offers-666-days-of-wicked-standby/) :p

[captain kaos]

You sure about that? (http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/20/i-coloured-mobiles-zj268-offers-666-days-of-wicked-standby/) :p

Well kind of yes!

lithium-ion or lithium polymer batteries still don't hold up well to GPS, Wi-Fi, 3g use all day! When the Nokia N73 first came out and had all this switched on/used it pretty much needed a charge every day.

What battery will give you, say a weeks use with all this new technology being used everyday.......nothing yet, unless im missing something!:)

[baslotto]

Fake!

[Intarweb]

You sure about that? (http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/20/i-coloured-mobiles-zj268-offers-666-days-of-wicked-standby/) :p

That phone looks pretty cool!

[PubGuy]

The way everyone talks, you'd think 3G was a nationwide standard in the US --- it's not. It is only available in certain large cities Period.

So, if you don't live in those certain large cities, it makes perfect sense to have an option to turn off the 3G radio, just like you can turn off the bluetooth.

Also, I find the Edge totally adequate to check emails on the go and to get occasional directions. Surfing the web is painful, but I can always locate a free hotspot using the maps program if I plan on doing extensive web surfing.

Granted, if you live outside of the North America, 3G is much more prevalent and a desirable feature. But then again, if you are only checking email and an occasional map while on-the-go, the option to switch off 3G to increase battery life is a real nice option to have.

[Shasterball]

Why is it mandatory to post at least two "3G!!!" -news items every day? Everyone knows 3G is coming and almost every 3G phone has the option of turning it off.

So what's the actual rumor/news here?

I don't think there is one...

[iSlave]

Personally, I'm almost as sick to death of reading 'rumours' about the 3G iPhone as I was about the original iPhone prior to release.

Which leads me to this question: Which do you think has had more hype, rumours and general press overkill? iPhone? Or 3G iPhone? Answers on a postcard...

[PowerFullMac]

Personally, I'm almost as sick to death of reading 'rumours' about the 3G iPhone as I was about the original iPhone prior to release.

Which leads me to this question: Which do you think has had more hype, rumours and general press overkill? iPhone? Or 3G iPhone? Answers on a postcard...

Well, the original iPhone was 100% speculation, no one even knew about the multi-touch screen, and I think all the people who were buying them on launch day because of the hype as they had never even used one before. The same will probably go with this one, but lets hope there is less baisc stuff missing from this one!

[Morky]

On a slight tangent to this subject i think for me everyone is getting very excited about the 3g aspect to the next version of iphone, but if its just a form change and 3g then i dont think i'll be scrabling to get one, in other words ole steve has to have something else up his sleeves in June! The 3g rumours has definately deflected everyone attention to the point something else, GPS (which is another rumour) is going to really swing it to make everyone update to/buy the new version.

For a lot of folks, including me, the Exchange support is the killer app allowing us to leave our Blackberrys (spelling intentional; it's a brand). The app store also creates a whole new dimension of functionality for the iPhone.

As far as something up the sleeve, I would love to see GPS, and iChat-compatible video chat accompanied by the release of iChat for Windows. To blow the doors off most remaining complaints: replaceable battery (c'mon Jonny Ive, you can find a way to make a battery beautiful), voice dialing, cut and paste, Finder, disk mode, scissors, wine opener.

[SamoanDude]

Excuse my ignorance but this is the new upcoming phone and not existing ones right?

[PowerFullMac]

Excuse my ignorance but this is the new upcoming phone and not existing ones right?

Unless the old ones can magically grow 3G transmitters than yes. ;)

[RussGJohnson]

Why not have a "automatically switch 3g on or off for data connections" preference setting instead? When enabled you would automatically be switched to 3g when you open Safari or maps for example, and then be switched back to edge after a reasonable time of inactivity.

[thaitillidie]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

There are circulating claims (http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/21/3g-iphone-screen-shot-faked-but-dont-worry-we-think-its-stil/) that the 'Enable 3G' setting screenshot (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/10/latest-iphone-2-0-firmware-has-3g-on-off-option/) in the latest iPhone 2.0 Beta was faked.

Asking whether or not the screenshot is fake is like asking if a perfect digital replica of a photo is fake. The story remains the same regardless of the answer. As mentioned in the original story, the exact wording and text from the screenshot appears in Apple's iPhone 2.0 firmware:


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/05/21/193259-3gstrings.png


Apple expects the 3G option in the upcoming iPhone to impact battery life enough that it offers the user and option to turn it off.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/21/enable-3g-setting-in-iphone-firmware-not-fake/)

Former Apple Fan Log: Thursday May 22, 2008 A.D. --- The effects have worn off. Officially. I first noticed signs of remission shortly after droppin' $400 of my hard-earned money on a frickin' 8GB iphone that didn't even have features found on models costing much less, only to witness these a-holes at Apple then offer a model a few months later with TWICE the memory but with no incentive in place for me to upgrade without paying for a brand new phone for five hundred frickin' more dollars!!

And now, presently, after witnessing these same a-holes sit idly by for weeks and months while their loyal devoted fans are reduced to making buffoons outta themselves by wildly speculating with rumors, innuendos and unsubstantiated claims related to a THIRD model (in less than a year at that!) on the horizon -- without the company offering so much as a simple courtesy by providing them with one iota, nay, a small morsel of what features will/will not be present on the new device until such a time of their choosing is, well, UNFREAKIN'ACCEPTABLE and a slap in the face to its customers who have supported them, restored their reputation and help put them back on the map.

So I'm done. I'm cured. No longer susceptible to their mind and wallet games.

If this new so-called 3G iPhone with its feature set and capabilities is anything less than multiple orgasm-inducing and a cure for my debilitating herpes -- especially considering the unprecedented degree at which its hype machine is now operating -- I am finished with Apple. Forever. And for good.

Signed, sealed and delivered this Thursday the 22nd day of May in the year 2008.

Good frickin' day.

[PowerFullMac]

Here is ultimate proof it works - I just done it!

[captain kaos]

Why not have a "automatically switch 3g on or off for data connections" preference setting instead? When enabled you would automatically be switched to 3g when you open Safari or maps for example, and then be switched back to edge after a reasonable time of inactivity.

Im sure some one, somewhere will write a programme for that, and it'd be a good idea as well.

[L3X]

I'm still wondering if 3G is worth it or not. I got my 16G iPhone in April as a birthday present (milestone birthday), and some friends suggested that we should've waited until the 3G. But, for what i do, EDGE works fine, and most of the time I'm near an 802.11b/g WAP. Battery life, however, is a big thing.

I wonder, will Apple beef up the battery for 3G?
Stick with your 16GB. Save the 3G for those of us that don't have an iPhone. :)

[tgildred]

It seems like some people just come to this site to click negative on all the rumors.


I know I do.

It makes me feel like a big man.

[Stewie]

can i just ask and this may seem rather silly but why would a 3g phone of any kind not just iphone need 3g turned off yes granted 3g battary life is some times rubish just depends on what your doing with your phone such as playing music as well as surfing the net..


Just seems kind of daft to me

Because a 3g phone will always want to connect to a 3g network. So it tries really, really hard all the time to connect to 3g. If you aren't in a 3g area this will drain the battery down very, very, very quickly. And by very, very, very quickly I'm talking hours. I used to have a Verzion treo that would only get about 4 hours when I was out of 3g coverage. Of course treo's suck so that is not the best comparison to make when talking battery life, but still....

[tomjleeds]

I don't think that is the point of this thread

That's probably true, but I'm sick of hearing this over and over again.

You could have said that in a better way with less arrogance.

1) The whole "'mericans" thing was a joke, no more no less. I guess irony is lost on some people.

2) I think it's pretty frickin' arrogant that those of us who've been using 3G phones for years are ignored time and time again.

[phasornc]

Jeebus! Are you 'mericans so devoid of 3G that you don't listen to us Europeans going on and on and on and on about how pretty much every 3G phone on the market has the option to use only 2G networks?! Yes, it gives the user the option, but so does every other phone, this isn't new!

Neither the Moto Q9H nor the Samsung Blackjack II provide a user switch for Edge (2.5G). They will fall back to Edge but the only user customizable switch is "Disable Cellular Data". Ya that sucks when your battery is running down and your out and about with no charger. You have to make a "painful" choice "no internet now" or no internet and "no phone at some point within the next not completely certain timeframe". I like the edge fallback option. Edge is good enough for email and Google maps which is really all I use my Blackjack for since Mobile IE $UCKS!!! And Opera is pretty hard to use with no touchscreen.

[Paulo the Limey]

This just illustrates the power and fallibility of the internet. Great power to distribute information globally in a short space of time. The fallibility? Helps if the information is right in the first place…

[thogs_cave]

So I'm done. I'm cured. No longer susceptible to their mind and wallet games.

I don't get it. If you buy something that does what you need it to do when you buy it (or why would you buy it?), then why complain when something newer comes out? The 3G phones won't make my current iPhone any less useful to me than it is now - it does what I want, and that's why I got one.

Sure, faster networking would be nice, but it was fast enough when I bought it. When it no longer is, then I will consider a new one. Yes, it's nice to have the shiny new toy, but in the end it's a tool.

[sassenach74]

Former Apple Fan Log: Thursday May 22, 2008 A.D. --- Blah Blah yadda yadda dribble dribble more dribble and a bit more yadda yadda................Signed, sealed and delivered this Thursday the 22nd day of May in the year 2008.

Good frickin' day.

Yeah cos techonology has a tendency to sit still, nothing ever gets superceded by newer models, the old models always suddenly become **** when a newer model comes out, consumers are always privvy to inside information, it's only Apple that holds it back......what a totally nonsensical post you made.

[PowerFullMac]

Neither the Moto Q9H nor the Samsung Blackjack II provide a user switch for Edge (2.5G). They will fall back to Edge but the only user customizable switch is "Disable Cellular Data". Ya that sucks when your battery is running down and your out and about with no charger. You have to make a "painful" choice "no internet now" or no internet and "no phone at some point within the next not completely certain timeframe". I like the edge fallback option. Edge is good enough for email and Google maps which is really all I use my Blackjack for since Mobile IE $UCKS!!! And Opera is pretty hard to use with no touchscreen.

The BlackJack does but, if I recall correctly, you need to get in to a secret menu. Google it.

[rhett7660]

Bring on the 3G... june can not be here fast enough!

[PowerFullMac]

Bring on the 3G... june can not be here fast enough!

It will seem slow because this week is a EDGE week, after June 9th the space time continuum will run on 3G so the days will go by faster! :p