Latest iPhone 2.0 Beta Adds Geo-Tagging to Photos

[MacRumors]

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Apple has continued to add new features to their upcoming iPhone 2.0 firmware release. The latest version seeded to Enterprise customers has a added geo-tagging (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/05/22/latest_iphone_2_0_beta_adds_geo_tagging_to_camera_photos.html) to the Camera application, according to Appleinsider.


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/05/22/105338-resize.jpg

The latest iPhone 2.0 Beta (5A292g) asks the user for permission before transmitting their location information. Apple currently uses Wi-fi and Cell tower identification to pinpoint locations, but is rumored to add GPS support in the next version of the iPhone.Essentially, geo-tagging is the process of adding geographical identification metadata to media files such as latitude and longitude coordinates -- or even names of places -- so that those files can later be referenced, searched, and grouped based on their origin.This functionality appears to fall under a broader "Location Services" preference that can be turned on or off.

The use of location in mobile phone applications is a growing trend. iPhone developers are already working on location based social networks (http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/09/i-saw-the-future-of-social-networking-the-other-day/) and even a multiplayer role playing game (MMORPG) (http://toucharcade.com/2008/03/21/parallel-kingdom-the-iphones-first-mmorpg/) set in the real world.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/22/latest-iphone-2-0-beta-adds-geo-tagging-to-photos/)

[fanbrain]

I like the sound of that. The triangulation feature doesn't work so well here, so GPS would be a welcome addition.

[SignorRossi]

I am very sure that we will see GPS in the next iPhone! It will be integrated in CoreLocation!

[decimortis]

if only the folks on LOST had one of these...

[sassenach74]

I don't get a mention for submitting it to you?

Edit: thanks Arn

Also did anyone else spot this on the second to last line:

iPhone Software 2.0 is due next month alongside the company's much-anticipated next-generation iPhone that will boast support for so-called 3G networks. However, it will also be made available for existing iPhone owners.

What does that mean exactly?

[captain kaos]

Giggerty, giggerty Goo!


Oh steve, home many more days are you going to leave us waiting on the edge of our seats!?
:(:(:(

[spazzcat]

I wonder why this was release to only Enterprise customers? And not to all current developers with access to the betas?

[kb152]

i love this feature. does it seem that it will work with the current phone (using tower triangulation)?

[sassenach74]

I wonder why this was release to only Enterprise customers? And not to all current developers with access to the betas?

Don't quote me, but I think that's the way they've been doing it with all the beta releases.

[spazzcat]

Don't quote me, but I think that's the way they've been doing it with all the beta releases.

Guess I didn't realize that :) My iPhone wants an update:D

[eyephone]

So...

Let me make sure I am understanding this function correctly. Being that the next iphone may have a true GPS built in, you would be able to take a picture and link it to a location, only to return to it later?

Lets say that I visit an office building several miles away, I can take a picture of the building for graphical reference, and have that location on my phone anytime I need to revisit this location, all by selecting the picture in a list. Or maybe you could send someone a picture of your current location that would give them a picture and GPS coordinates of where you are.

If I am correct this sounds like a great idea.

[mogzieee]

It sounds all to confusing for an Apple product.... I doubt anything like this

[arn]

I

iPhone Software 2.0 is due next month alongside the company's much-anticipated next-generation iPhone that will boast support for so-called 3G networks. However, it will also be made available for existing iPhone owners.

What does that mean exactly?

Just that the iPhone 2.0 firmware is coming for all current iphone users.

I wonder why this was release to only Enterprise customers? And not to all current developers with access to the betas?

Enteprise customers get it first, and the devs usually get it shortly.

arn

[macFanDave]

Now I can know the exact geographic coordinates where the blurs in my life are! Yay! :)

[sassenach74]

Just that the iPhone 2.0 firmware is coming for all current iphone users.

Ah yes, read that line completely wrong, appologies.

[herocero]

I don't get a mention for submitting it to you?

iPhone Software 2.0 is due next month alongside the company's much-anticipated next-generation iPhone that will boast support for so-called 3G networks. However, it will also be made available for existing iPhone owners.

What does that mean exactly?

The iPhone software update will be available to existing iPhone customers (non-3G). These features will be present, just without the 3G data speeds, GPS, front facing video camera, and the other hardware upgrades rumored to be in the new release (personally I am waiting for the iPhone cotton-candy maker upgrade).

On a similar note, I highly recommend reading this CNet blog (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9942958-37.html?tag=blog.6). Some of these android apps are really cool and very geo-centric, and this Google development fund isn't nearly as large as what KPCB is putting together. 3rd party apps are going to be the tipping point of this phone.

[Data]

I would love it if the next moddel phone would have gps build in, to me that's the one reason to upgrade my current phone.
No more sepperate navigation stuff needed for in the car for instance, can't wait , but i first have to see it before i believe it.

[mainstreetmark]

I have a few things to say:

1. Why do they say "Camera wants...", treating it like a proper noun. Why not "The camera wants..."

2. Google Maps has geographically tied pictures now, so I expect that there's going to be about forty billion pictures of the Empire State Building now.

3. Based on number 2, technologies like Photosynth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p16frKJLVi0) will suddenly become very attractive.

4. As more pictures get taken, and Photosynth technology evolves, we'll be able to accurately model real world locations, with accuracy increasing with each picture taken and uploaded.

5. As the decades pass, the real world model will change and evolve and in a hundred years, YouTube will be able to show you New York City evolving over a century from every location. :)

6. Eventually, I'll be remembered as a genius.

[Shasterball]

Soon, EVERYONE will know where you are: schools, work, gov't, parents, kids, g/f's, wives, etc...

Won't that be awesome.....ugh....

[pcguru83]

I have a few things to say:

1. Why do they say "Camera wants...", treating it like a proper noun. Why not "The camera wants..."

Because in this case it is a proper noun. Camera is the name of the iPhone application that takes pictures. :)

[SpinThis!]

I smell a fake.

Either Apple is ignoring their own UI guidelines or is just falling off... but I have never seen "OK" in an Apple dialog box. Apple recommends an active verb to initiate the action—in this case, "Use" would probably be used instead of "OK".

Second, that dialog box is unnecessary. Apple would either set it for you automatically with a preference or not. Apple has also never referred to its applications directly either. If you've just taken a picture, it's pretty obvious it's from the Camera application. It would probably be better phrased such as "Use your current location with this photo?" with "Don't Use" or "Use".

[bsteyaert]

iPhot o6.0 hidden GPS code (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=239890&page=4)

Anybody remember this article in '06. It discusses the fact there has been development in this focus for sometime now. Prior to the past post there really was only speculation of a portable with communication functions. This will be interesting where it is taken. Maybe we will be able to see future devices dependent on the GPS functions of the iPhone (aka my SLR digital) to tag images when loaded into Aperture/iPhoto.

[rotobadger]

It reminds me of the Mac commercial making fun of Microsoft Vista security. I can see the secret service guy standing there:

"Camera would like to use your current location...Allow or Deny".

[longofest]

iPhot o6.0 hidden GPS code (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=239890&page=4)

Anybody remember this article in '06. It discusses the fact there has been development in this focus for sometime now. Prior to the past post there really was only speculation of a portable with communication functions. This will be interesting where it is taken. Maybe we will be able to see future devices dependent on the GPS functions of the iPhone (aka my SLR digital) to tag images when loaded into Aperture/iPhoto.

I do remember that article (http://www.macrumors.com/2006/10/04/iphoto-6-0-5-google-maps-integration-and-apple-gps-enabled-device/). I was just about to post about it. Beat me to it :-). Very interesting tie in.

[JPark]

Because in this case it is a proper noun. Camera is the name of the iPhone application that takes pictures. :)

And because everything related to iPhone is Proper Noun. :D

[Rocketman]

The addition of this sort of functionality makes it possible for real estate folks, surveyors and others to find value in the device well above the capital and recurring costs.

Rocketman

[lamina]

Now THAT is awesome. Think of the possibilities...

You're researching a city you want to visit, and you find photos based on its location. Amazing. I can't wait to have the next iPhone in my hands.

[obliterations]

So...

Let me make sure I am understanding this function correctly. Being that the next iphone may have a true GPS built in, you would be able to take a picture and link it to a location,...Or maybe you could send someone a picture of your current location that would give them a picture and GPS coordinates of where you are.

If I am correct this sounds like a great idea.

Just imagine being lost in a city. "Help I'm near a StarBucks and I can't find my way home" ...send image...

All your friends and family will be able to find your dead body. :)

[b3beater]

How about less GPS-Geo anything and more quality in the photos by said camera. The camera is pretty much useless in most applications and if the subject so much as breathes the image blurs... For a company that prides itself on the look of things along with functionality the image quality generated by the camera is shameful.

[obliterations]

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/05/22/105338-resize.jpg

I wonder if the "Camera" is going to be bugging you to take pictures for some sort of Google Street View project?

[dZp]

The camera is pretty much useless in most applications and if the subject so much as breathes the image blurs... For a company that prides itself on the look of things along with functionality the image quality generated by the camera is shameful.
Are you aware that you should :
- press
- compose
- release

and NOT :
- compose
- press/release

[Deefuzz]

That's really cool.

The next iPhone sounds almost worth upgrading for.

[Mitch1984]

Watch someone sue apple now for using their invention. How long do you reckon it'll take?

[kjs862]

Because in this case it is a proper noun. Camera is the name of the iPhone application that takes pictures. :)

Hey I know this a computer forum and all and it may seem a bit off topic, but whats a proper noun? I was always horrible at English. :-(

[MrCrowbar]

if only the folks on LOST had one of these...

:-)
Picture of you on island: check
GPS Tag on picture: check
GSM or WIFI to call for help: nope

Solution:
Stick the iPhone in a bottle and let it float away. If I fould a bottle with an iPhone in it, I would totally want to get it.

To Do: Find a bottle to fit an iPhone inside :p

[Davy Rocket]

Apple's quest to rule the world. :apple:

[shigzeo]

Hey I know this a computer forum and all and it may seem a bit off topic, but whats a proper noun? I was always horrible at English. :-(

you are doing quite well mate

[edesignuk]

This is good news. iPhone 2.0 is shaping up to have some nice and significant new features, fingers crossed the hardware can make the best of it.

[Le Big Mac]

iPhot o6.0 hidden GPS code (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=239890&page=4)

Anybody remember this article in '06. It discusses the fact there has been development in this focus for sometime now. Prior to the past post there really was only speculation of a portable with communication functions. This will be interesting where it is taken. Maybe we will be able to see future devices dependent on the GPS functions of the iPhone (aka my SLR digital) to tag images when loaded into Aperture/iPhoto.


Yes. It would be very useful if Apple activated the geocoding in iPhoto as well. Not much use if it's only on your iPhone. (The key is having a helper app. that can take GPS information from a GPS tracker and upload it with the photos)

[SpinThis!]

You're researching a city you want to visit, and you find photos based on its location.
Yeh because every real photographer taking those pictures is going to want to use an iPhone because it can geo tag... :rolleyes:

I don't see the big deal here with GPS. Unless Google steps up and helps Apple out with software and updates maps, I can't see GPS being any more useful than the locate me feature on the iPhone now (albeit a bit more accurate). I hope I'm wrong and Apple's Maps 2.0 is awesome but I doubt iPhone 2.0 is going to match the hype of the original. Regardless, there's going to be a lot of let-down people who were expecting the world of iPhone 2 and only got 3G...

[crees!]

if only the folks on LOST had one of these...
Then the show would have to be called FOUND.

[DaBrain]

Soon, EVERYONE will know where you are: schools, work, gov't, parents, kids, g/f's, wives, etc...

Won't that be awesome.....ugh....

Yep! Get ready! Big Brother/Employer watching you! :eek:

[PoitNarf]

I smell a fake.

Either Apple is ignoring their own UI guidelines or is just falling off... but I have never seen "OK" in an Apple dialog box. Apple recommends an active verb to initiate the action—in this case, "Use" would probably be used instead of "OK".

Second, that dialog box is unnecessary. Apple would either set it for you automatically with a preference or not. Apple has also never referred to its applications directly either. If you've just taken a picture, it's pretty obvious it's from the Camera application. It would probably be better phrased such as "Use your current location with this photo?" with "Don't Use" or "Use".

It is strange that this confirmation screen does seem to go against their own UI guidelines... however, I can say with 100% certainty that both the camera app and the maps app prompt for this now.

[kornyboy]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

I like it now bring it on please.

[toddrohner]

Now THAT is awesome. Think of the possibilities...

You're researching a city you want to visit, and you find photos based on its location. Amazing. I can't wait to have the next iPhone in my hands.

You can already do this on Flickr. Fill in the search field and select search --> for a location.

Bingo, you have a map with icons representing geotagged photos at their location.

[Chrispy88]

I smell a fake.

Either Apple is ignoring their own UI guidelines or is just falling off... but I have never seen "OK" in an Apple dialog box. Apple recommends an active verb to initiate the action—in this case, "Use" would probably be used instead of "OK".

Second, that dialog box is unnecessary. Apple would either set it for you automatically with a preference or not. Apple has also never referred to its applications directly either. If you've just taken a picture, it's pretty obvious it's from the Camera application. It would probably be better phrased such as "Use your current location with this photo?" with "Don't Use" or "Use".

Apple is going to make its 'CoreLocation' services available to other applications. However, in the interest of user privacy, Apple will force all applications (including its own) to ask permission to use CoreLocation.

[Decrepit]

That is ***** wicked.

I want that new firmware!

[Pwned]

Sigh, next rumor please!

[Marvin1379]

I have a few things to say:

1. Why do they say "Camera wants...", treating it like a proper noun. Why not "The camera wants..."



Because Camera is an application, like Mail or Address Book.

It also sounds more personal...you can have a relationship beyond taking pics with Camera.

[wesk702]

Holy SHHHEET.

Not only at GPS but the capabilities of the Geo tagging thing.

That along with this (near the end of the clip) ==>

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/129

if it ever comes into works would be crazy

[tkermit]

iPhone developers are already working on...even a multiplayer role playing game (MMORPG) set in the real world.

Great ?! isn't that what our real life is and always has been, though...

[Marvin1379]

Then the show would have to be called FOUND.

and *that* wouldn't be much of a show

[hiptobesquare]

This sounds a bit interesting.

I just hope that the iPhone 1.0/iPod Touch gets a bit more accessory development.

A dock-dongle with a gps chip and antenna in it, that can work with the iphone and iPT just the same way the iPhone 2.0 will have it built in.

I'd love to have a little gps attachment that I could take off when I am not using it, rather than having a whole new device, or being expected to shell out for a whole new device again.

And, if someone does design such a dongle, or any other dock-accessory, a 30-pin pass-through is essential. Charging during use is not uncommon, and chargers use the 30-pin dock connector.

Usually dock dongle devices either block charging entirely, or they use a mini-USB port... I don't carry a dock charger cable, and a USB charger cable at the same time. I have a dock cable at the office, at home, and in each car. I use the dock port, so if I want to use an accessory also, it should pass-through.

[Fiveos22]

Soon, EVERYONE will know where you are: schools, work, gov't, parents, kids, g/f's, wives, etc...

Won't that be awesome.....ugh....

I would hate for my girlfriends to know where to find each other.

[Zeegler]

Anyone know what to make of this?

A line?! (http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/iphone-line-forms-at-apples-flagship-for-absolutely-no-reason/) for iPhones at the 5th Avenue store in NYC

[twoodcc]

i really hope that GPS is in the next iphone

[bmwhd]

I smell a fake.

Either Apple is ignoring their own UI guidelines or is just falling off... but I have never seen "OK" in an Apple dialog box. Apple recommends an active verb to initiate the action—in this case, "Use" would probably be used instead of "OK".

Second, that dialog box is unnecessary. Apple would either set it for you automatically with a preference or not. Apple has also never referred to its applications directly either. If you've just taken a picture, it's pretty obvious it's from the Camera application. It would probably be better phrased such as "Use your current location with this photo?" with "Don't Use" or "Use".

Not fake. Setting here looking at it on my Exchange Beta Test phone running 5A292g.

[JoeDMD]

Then the show would have to be called FOUND.

I'm not sure... They have a sat phone and all they use it for is to call the people trying to kill them.

[Tres]

I don't see the big deal here with GPS. Unless Google steps up and helps Apple out with software and updates maps, I can't see GPS being any more useful than the locate me feature on the iPhone now (albeit a bit more accurate). I hope I'm wrong and Apple's Maps 2.0 is awesome but I doubt iPhone 2.0 is going to match the hype of the original. Regardless, there's going to be a lot of let-down people who were expecting the world of iPhone 2 and only got 3G...

GPS is much, much more accurate than the current locate me now feature and also allows real time tracking. This is useful for small things like in-car/on foot navigation etc. :rolleyes:

I doubt Apple would bother adding geotagging just for use with the current cell phone tower triangulation system, it just isn't accurate enough. It doesn't make sense for them to NOT add GPS, a lot of current phones do have GPS and the chips are small and inexpensive. With the large screen of the iPhone combined with the maps and routing features of Google maps, it would make a perfect GPS. In addition Apple would be basically hitting 3 different markets with one device: GPS devices, MP3/PMP's and cell phones.

[Zeegler]

does anyone care that a line (http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/iphone-line-forms-at-apples-flagship-for-absolutely-no-reason/) has formed outside the :apple: 5th avenue store for the 3G iPhone?

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/05/iphone_line_1.jpg

[klagreca]

A Google maps or Earth search, with the location result now littered with thousands of blurry photos....
:-)
K

[Pwned]

does anyone care that a line (http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/iphone-line-forms-at-apples-flagship-for-absolutely-no-reason/) has formed outside the :apple: 5th avenue store for the 3G iPhone?

How do we know it's from today? Looking at the weather it's raining in NYC and the sidewalk is dry and there are no umbrellas-ellas-ellas-eh-eh

[btnnaz]

Guess I didn't realize that :) My iPhone wants an update:D


Actually i am in the developer program not enterprise and i still have beta 5 there is no where for me to download beta 6. Im Pissed!!!!:)

[Zeegler]

How do we know it's from today? Looking at the weather it's raining in NYC and the sidewalk is dry and there are no umbrellas-ellas-ellas-eh-eh

Looking outside my window (3 blocks from 5th Ave store) it's currently sunny in Midtown Manhattan (was drizzling earlier, but no umbrellas with the people walking outside right now)

[Padraig]

Watch someone sue apple now for using their invention. How long do you reckon it'll take?

Apple didn't invent this. A couple of the new nokia phones (possibly other manufacturers?) have this feature already.

[Pwned]

Looking outside my window (3 blocks from 5th Ave store) it's currently sunny in Midtown Manhattan (was drizzling earlier, but no umbrellas with the people walking outside right now)

I gladly stand corrected :D

[eastcoastsurfer]

A location tag feature for the camera should've been included day 1 on the iphone. I'm surprised I haven't seen high end cameras including small GPS devices yet so that they can geo-tag pics...

[Zeegler]

I gladly stand corrected :D

got cloudy again, but not drizzling

[Padraig]

A location tag feature for the camera should've been included day 1 on the iphone. I'm surprised I haven't seen high end cameras including small GPS devices yet so that they can geo-tag pics...

Once again;

http://www.nseries.com/index.html#l=experiences,maps_and_photography,about

[Pwned]

got cloudy again, but not drizzling

I'll give you a dollar if you go ask them what they are waiting for, you'd make headline news for sure! :D

[minik]

I wish none of the iPhone rumors get on the frontpage.

[Zeegler]

I'll give you a dollar if you go ask them what they are waiting for, you'd make headline news for sure! :D

I can't get over there til after 5pm...if only I had video capability on my iPhone I could interview them :D

[Pwned]

I can't get over there til after 5pm...if only I had video capability on my iPhone I could interview them :D

Maybe if you yell loud enough since you are only a few blocks away :eek:

[macFanDave]

I would hate for my girlfriends to know where to find each other.

And what's even worse is the hell I have to pay when my girlfriend finds out that I'm with my wife! She says I'm cheating on her!

[rjflyn]

Lets see there are how many days until the 9th. SO lets see that gives us at least 18 or 19 more rumors/features to go.

Though I did just put my old iBook on craigslist to fund my 3g purchase if and when. That and we just moved to a covered area which is a bonus.

Oh and we have a new Apple store opening on Saturday in FL- worse i have to work- grrrrrrrrr. Better I am off on iphone day.
R

[Zeegler]

Maybe if you yell loud enough since you are only a few blocks away :eek:

My window doesn't open

[Pwned]

My window doesn't open

check mate Zeegler, I am out of ideas:p

[kb152]

does anyone care that a line (http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/iphone-line-forms-at-apples-flagship-for-absolutely-no-reason/) has formed outside the :apple: 5th avenue store for the 3G iPhone?



they're all uninformed tourists. that store is often packed with lines of people trying to get in. no one visiting new york seems to know there are two other stores in the city.

[Zeegler]

check mate Zeegler, I am out of ideas:p

NEWSFLASH!!!! The sun is out again in midtown

[corinhorn]

Maybe it is because I don't yet own an iPhone, but I'm growing tired of so many iPhone rumors and reports. Hopefully there will be some Mac related news soon.

[Pwned]

Someone on engadget reported their co-worker called the store and they said there was no line, WTF!

[kb152]

Someone on engadget reported their co-worker called the store and they said there was no line, WTF!

too funny. I can't believe engadget is posting that. I guess they're right: a line is forming for absolutely no reason, other than that it is a nice day in NYC and people are out shopping in droves. Probably some extra people in town for the memorial day weekend, too. They could already be inside if they were at the soho or w. 14th st. stores. :rolleyes:

[jeremy.king]

too funny. I can't believe engadget is posting that. I guess they're right: a line is forming for absolutely no reason, other than that it is a nice day in NYC and people are out shopping in droves. Probably some extra people in town for the memorial day weekend, too. They could already be inside if they were at the soho or w. 14th st. stores. :rolleyes:

If you read the comments, apparently its the ImprovEverywhere clan...

[Zeegler]

If you read the comments, apparently its the ImprovEverywhere clan...

No confirmation of Improv Everywhere, and hard to blv it's them bc their last stunt was only last week

[bmwhd]

Actually i am in the developer program not enterprise and i still have beta 5 there is no where for me to download beta 6. Im Pissed!!!!:)

Trust me, you don't want it yet. 5A274d was actually working very well for me WRT the exchange stuff. 5A292g fragged everything. I can't even pair my BT headset let alone re-establish my exchange account. Ditto for a couple of others in our beta group.

EDIT: Apple found us a work-around. The beta rocks on...

[Zeegler]

too funny. I can't believe engadget is posting that. I guess they're right: a line is forming for absolutely no reason, other than that it is a nice day in NYC and people are out shopping in droves. Probably some extra people in town for the memorial day weekend, too. They could already be inside if they were at the soho or w. 14th st. stores. :rolleyes:

just to throw something out there... Many have speculated that Apple stopped selling 2.5G iPhone on May 9th to avoid mass returns when they release the 3G iPhone. Apple's return policy is 14 days, which expires tomorrow (May 23) for iPhones bought on May 9th, or to be more precise at midnight (just over 9 hours away), so in theory, they could release new iPhone at midnight and the 5th Avenue store is open 24 hours. Then again, this could also be Improv Everywhere or just some tourists waiting to ride the glass wonkavator.

[Ryn01599]

I hope they make it like the Helios where you can also see your friends, who have the phone, on the map. Great way to help people with directions!

[minik]

10.5.3 is out

I don't see it on both my MBP and Mac Pro.

[chris200x9]

an mmo set in the real world...........how lame can you be?! How about going out and doing stuff rather than talking online about doing stuff!

[MacFly123]

I'm not totally getting this. What does it do for the USER besides take our photos and info and give them to Google to build Google Earths database of mapping or whatever company or app the info is going to????? If that's all it is then I'm really NOT interested in participating.

I am also a little worried to see that the camera app is still only pictures and no video has been added in. I don't see why they would make video capturing a separate app. :confused:

All I know is iPhone 2.0 better have video capturing and iChat or I am going to be very disappointed. If it doesn't, it would be about only the second 3G phone EVER not have to video conferencing, number one being the BlackBerry Bold! :rolleyes:

[Zeegler]

I'm not totally getting this. What does it do for the USER besides take our photos and info and give them to Google to build Google Earths database of mapping or whatever company or app the info is going to????? If that's all it is then I'm really NOT interested in participating.

I am also a little worried to see that the camera app is still only pictures and no video has been added in. I don't see why they would make video capturing a separate app. :confused:

All I know is iPhone 2.0 better have video capturing and iChat or I am going to be very disappointed. If it doesn't, it would be about only the second 3G phone EVER not have to video conferencing, number one being the BlackBerry Bold! :rolleyes:

BlackBerry Bold is a 3G paperweight :p

[eastcoastsurfer]

Once again;

http://www.nseries.com/index.html#l=experiences,maps_and_photography,about

Yeah, I figured other phones had it. It's the same old thing we see a lot with the fanboy crowd. It's a feature that doesn't matter until Steve says it does. Still you know of any high end SLRs that have geo-tagging yet? I don't know if I've ever taken a picture with my cell phone since I always have a decent point and shoot or better with me...

[kb152]

just to throw something out there... Many have speculated that Apple stopped selling 2.5G iPhone on May 9th to avoid mass returns when they release the 3G iPhone. Apple's return policy is 14 days, which expires tomorrow (May 23) for iPhones bought on May 9th, or to be more precise at midnight (just over 9 hours away), so in theory, they could release new iPhone at midnight and the 5th Avenue store is open 24 hours. Then again, this could also be Improv Everywhere or just some tourists waiting to ride the glass wonkavator.

yeah, i think it's just a coincidence in timing. anyone following the rumors and so attuned to apple's policies as those on commenting on this site would not be waiting in line at that tourist trap when they could be getting it done at the other stores.;)

[Zeegler]

yeah, i think it's just a coincidence in timing. anyone following the rumors and so attuned to apple's policies as those on commenting on this site would not be waiting in line at that tourist trap when they could be getting it done at the other stores.;)

are any others open at midnight?

[Digital Skunk]

Okay, this is a nice feature, but where in the world are my productivity apps at? How about iWork Mobile, or iWork Lite? What good is a phone with enterprise features and speed if all I am going to be doing is looking at Myspace and Facebook?

Come on and give us POWERFUL apps and features... I know you can do it!

[g8bo]

are any others open at midnight?

no... not enough for the release of the 3G. there will be previously an anouncment and then the release.


9th june

[Pwned]

I don't think Apple would release such a coveted item at midnight at only one store unless they release it there at midnight and nationwide the very next day. I still say a June release even though I want it to come out sooner.

[Zeegler]

I don't think Apple would release such a coveted item at midnight at only one store unless they release it there at midnight and nationwide the very next day. I still say a June release even though I want it to come out sooner.

Nintendo released Wii Fit a whole day early in only their NYC flagship store, then everywhere else in US the next day. Maybe Apple is borrowing from Nintendo's playbook?

[kb152]

are any others open at midnight?

the one at 14th st. closes at midnight ... so, no.

i still vote that it's the wonkavator though ... haha. i just pictured the entire line backed up for the elevator and the stairs wrapping around it are completely empty. :D

[Digital Skunk]

A Google maps or Earth search, with the location result now littered with thousands of blurry photos....
:-)
K

Greatest post for this thread/day, and the God honest truth.

:D

[Zeegler]

the one at 14th st. closes at midnight ... so, no.

i still vote that it's the wonkavator though ... haha. i just pictured the entire line backed up for the elevator and the stairs wrapping around it are completely empty. :D

reports in that a line now in front of SoHo store...can anyone confirm and/or photograph?

[Pwned]

Nintendo released Wii Fit a whole day early in only their NYC flagship store, then everywhere else in US the next day. Maybe Apple is borrowing from Nintendo's playbook?

I sure hope they don't pull that crap. Last thing I want to do is scramble all over creation to get one once they are released. Apple, if you do that, I will be mad but you will still get my money:D

[sassenach74]

reports in that a line now in front of SoHo store...can anyone confirm and/or photograph?


reports from where?

[Zeegler]

reports from where?

Engadget comments

[Pwned]

Engadget comments

I don't see anything mentioning that, care to copy/paste?

[decimortis]

reports that a line up has begun outside my office washroom...will post pics shortly.

[Pwned]

Nevermind, I see it

[sebastianlewis]

Preview.app has had support for Geo-related features since Leopard. Only trouble is there are so few of them around at the moment, you can geocode photos on Picasa Web Albums though, and you can create Maps on Google Maps adding your photos to different locations but there really isn't a camera with GPS in it (unless of course, there is, then I'd like a link to it please :) ), so that leaves it to the mobile market. Nokia had some weird speech about taking on Google recently and reinventing the Internet with "Location" built into it... well while the goal is nice it's a bit too much hype for my system to take, but at least with this, Apple won't be falling behind Nokia, especially since it really is a good idea.

Sebastian

[Stately]

if only the folks on LOST had one of these...

LoL :D

[woodekm]

That Sea Dragon stuff is cool!

Zoomable user interfaces, thousands of peoples photos "seemed" together making practically 3d image, is badass. In the future, I can imagine an almost virtual walkthrough of any popular place in the world, through the use of other peoples photos.

Cell phone cameras can only help this to become reality.

[superman193]

This feature is also commonly referred to as UAC (user account control) ......:rolleyes::p

[sassenach74]

..........but there really isn't a camera with GPS in it (unless of course, there is, then I'd like a link to it please :) Sebastian


Here is just one example:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07020501ricoh500se.asp

[Digital Skunk]

I would just like a comment from one of the iPhone junkies as to why they are in line for a yet unannounced product? I thought certain people had no lives but jeez, there hasn't even been an announcement yet.

[sassenach74]

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[Stately]

How about less GPS-Geo anything and more quality in the photos by said camera. The camera is pretty much useless in most applications and if the subject so much as breathes the image blurs... For a company that prides itself on the look of things along with functionality the image quality generated by the camera is shameful.

I have to disagree on this one. I took photos at the NY car show with my phone and people actually thought I used a stand alone camera.
It could use more megapixels though.
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=116912&stc=1&d=1211486940
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=116913&stc=1&d=1211486940

[decimortis]

I would just like a comment from one of the iPhone junkies as to why they are in line for a yet unannounced product? I thought certain people had no lives but jeez, there hasn't even been an announcement yet.

I'm still waiting in line for movie tickets to Star Wars: Episode 7

SO BACK OFF!!!! ;)

[sassenach74]

I have to disagree on this one. I took photos at the NY car show with my phone and people actually thought I used a stand alone camera.
It could use more megapixels though.
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=116912&stc=1&d=1211486940
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=116913&stc=1&d=1211486940


Great shots, within reason it's not how good the camera is, but how good the photographer is. So credit goes to you for getting those shots.

[Zeegler]

I'm still waiting in line for movie tickets to Star Wars: Episode 7

SO BACK OFF!!!! ;)

tickets not available yet, but keep watch here (http://www.fandango.com/starwars:theclonewars_114457/movieoverview)

[fltman]

It's about time that geo-tagging becomes more of a standard in digital cameras and not just a curiosity which is seems to be today.

[Digital Skunk]

I'm still waiting in line for movie tickets to Star Wars: Episode 7

SO BACK OFF!!!! ;)

Hey, at least that has way more rumors than the iPhone....

Besides... I can see you way back there, I am the guy sleeping in the tent. :p

[Iphtashu Fitz]

So...
Let me make sure I am understanding this function correctly. Being that the next iphone may have a true GPS built in, you would be able to take a picture and link it to a location, only to return to it later?


Digital cameras store all sorts of metadata in the images you take. The metadata adheres to a standard known as EXIF (Exchangeable Image File Format) which can be read by all sorts of applications. EXIF data can include everything from the date/time an image is taken to the type of lens used to the shutter speed, ISO, and other advanced settings (if a digital camera supports them). It can also store the serial number of the camera, which can lead to all sorts of trouble if you assume photos are anonymous (people who leaked confidential data via digital photos have been tracked down by law enforcement this way). The EXIF format also specifies placeholders for GPS latitude/longitude and other GPS/location details, so the chances are they're simply going to add this information into photos that the iPhone takes.

Your idea of "going back" to a location where you snapped a photograph wouldn't be all that difficult. You'd just need an application that can read the latitude/longitude from the EXIF metadata in a digital photo and tell your iPhone to go to that location. Whether or not Apple will provide that functionality directly waits to be seen.

[Stately]

Okay, this is a nice feature, but where in the world are my productivity apps at? How about iWork Mobile, or iWork Lite? What good is a phone with enterprise features and speed if all I am going to be doing is looking at Myspace and Facebook?

Come on and give us POWERFUL apps and features... I know you can do it!

For real dude . . . :cool:

[Stately]

reports that a line up has begun outside my office washroom...will post pics shortly.

Haha no way. . there's one starting at the movie theatre by my house.

[Stately]

Great shots, within reason it's not how good the camera is, but how good the photographer is. So credit goes to you for getting those shots.

Wow thank you for that complement.

[realberen]

5A574d did that for my entire vacation. The coordinates were way of, but all my photos were geo-tagged. I've heared 5A240d did that as well. Didn't earlier versions?

[Dagless]

I absolutely love the sound of this feature. Just hope they drastically improve the camera. Because I would just use it all day.

[bsteyaert]

Yes. It would be very useful if Apple activated the geocoding in iPhoto as well. Not much use if it's only on your iPhone. (The key is having a helper app. that can take GPS information from a GPS tracker and upload it with the photos)

Exactly- This would easily be done through the time stamping on the images. The devises just need to talk to each other.

[sassenach74]

I absolutely love the sound of this feature. Just hope they drastically improve the camera. Because I would just use it all day.


Not sure if you have seen this from appleinsider, it basically says that Apple are looking to recruit camera engineers for the iPhone. If this is a recent request I myself wouldn't be counting on the camera being upgraded just yet.

Here is the link if you are interested:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/05/21/iphone_camera_job_vancouver_store_and_iphone_logic_8_0_2.html

[kb152]

Not sure if you have seen this from appleinsider, it basically says that Apple are looking to recruit camera engineers for the iPhone. If this is a recent request I myself wouldn't be counting on the camera being upgraded just yet.

what?? they're just now starting their search? :mad: i was really expecting some serious camera improvements with the new version. the camera is one of the main reasons i would upgrade.

[bacaramac]

Not sure if you have seen this from appleinsider, it basically says that Apple are looking to recruit camera engineers for the iPhone. If this is a recent request I myself wouldn't be counting on the camera being upgraded just yet.

Here is the link if you are interested:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/05/21/iphone_camera_job_vancouver_store_and_iphone_logic_8_0_2.html

So, couldn't it be that Apple may have improved the lens on the new phone and this job is just to develope a better software to work with the new camera. Thus, allowing advance photo via a 1.2.X update.

[sassenach74]

So, couldn't it be that Apple may have improved the lens on the new phone and this job is just to develope a better software to work with the new camera. Thus, allowing advance photo via a 1.2.X update.


From this line:

The hire for the company's Cupertino headquarters would study present and future CMOS camera technology with an eye to implementing it in the iPhone...

It seems to me that the engineer would be more hardware than software orientated.

[sebastianlewis]

Here is just one example:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07020501ricoh500se.asp

Thanks.

Sebastian

[carve]

I smell a fake.

Either Apple is ignoring their own UI guidelines or is just falling off... but I have never seen "OK" in an Apple dialog box. Apple recommends an active verb to initiate the action—in this case, "Use" would probably be used instead of "OK".

Second, that dialog box is unnecessary. Apple would either set it for you automatically with a preference or not. Apple has also never referred to its applications directly either. If you've just taken a picture, it's pretty obvious it's from the Camera application. It would probably be better phrased such as "Use your current location with this photo?" with "Don't Use" or "Use".

It's a beta. They will fix the UI/grammar in final.

[curmi]

It's a beta. They will fix the UI/grammar in final.

You must be new to Apple if you believe that. :)

I too was surprised by the use of "OK" in the dialog, but wondered if maybe the issue was that "Use Location" (which would have been a better choice) didn't fit in the button. I suspect though it is just the usual modern Apple ignoring guidelines - and wouldn't have truly been surprised if the "OK" button had been on the left instead of the right.

[aafuss1]

Will the next version of iPhoto include geotagging support?

Having it on the iPhone is very cool.

[Roller]

Will the next version of iPhoto include geotagging support?

Having it on the iPhone is very cool.

It would. And things like cut and paste and voice dialing would be even cooler.

[TedB]

I smell a fake.

Either Apple is ignoring their own UI guidelines or is just falling off... but I have never seen "OK" in an Apple dialog box. Apple recommends an active verb to initiate the action—in this case, "Use" would probably be used instead of "OK".

Second, that dialog box is unnecessary. Apple would either set it for you automatically with a preference or not. Apple has also never referred to its applications directly either. If you've just taken a picture, it's pretty obvious it's from the Camera application. It would probably be better phrased such as "Use your current location with this photo?" with "Don't Use" or "Use".

It may be a photoshoped image, since I agree the language is not up to Apple spec, but this is a reality.

http://www.9to5mac.com/gps-3G-iphone

The SDK already revealed that GPS code was found in the camera code. Geo-tagging is diffidently on its way.

[inkswamp]

if only the folks on LOST had one of these...

Ah yes, the iPhone Lost Edition.

* The GPS screen asks "Camera would like to use your location. [execute]"

* All your stored contacts have the same phone number: 4815162342

* Signal strength is terrible, but you can occasionally tune in to a French woman broadcasting a distress message.

* It only has one button on the interface and you have to press the darn thing every 108 minutes.

* You can call any of your friends named Jacob, but you may be too limited to hear anything they try to tell you.

* Please note: the iPhone Lost Edition is only available to people with "daddy issues."

[stephenli]

I would hate for my girlfriends to know where to find each other.

I hate, too.
Maybe we can simply turn off this function, or....don't let her know. hahah.

[filmguy15]

Maybe someone already mentioned this, but I find it interesting how not too long ago, we saw a commercial dogging Vista for it's constant "Cancel or Allow" dialogues. Hmmmmm.....

[zync]

Didn't mean to double post. Don't know how I did it. I was really tired last night.

[zync]

I have to disagree on this one. I took photos at the NY car show with my phone and people actually thought I used a stand alone camera.
It could use more megapixels though.
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=116912&stc=1&d=1211486940
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=116913&stc=1&d=1211486940

No offense, but they probably didn't know much about photography or they haven't owned a new digital camera since the 90's. More megapixels wouldn't help you, it's sensor size that's important. Adding more megapixels to cameraa phones (to a certain extent) makes their photos noisier.

[stagi]

looks cool can't wait for 2.0

[Darkroom]

not sure if this was mentioned, but should the options be:

"Cancel" / "OK" ?

"Don't Allow" just seems weird to me...

[Faaip]

not sure if this was mentioned, but should the options be:

"Cancel" / "OK" ?

"Don't Allow" just seems weird to me...

That's a horrible idea, and totally against Apple's guidelines. You shouldn't have to read the message at all to understand what the buttons are about.

As for the dialog, I'm thinking it won't pop up if location services are already on in the preferences.

[sachxn]

awesome feature, I m looking forward to it

[koobcamuk]

Now THAT is awesome. Think of the possibilities...

You're researching a city you want to visit, and you find photos based on its location. Amazing. I can't wait to have the next iPhone in my hands.

no offence meant, but why the hell is that amazing? worth buying an iphone for? there's more to cities in the US of A you know. I know you could've meant a city somewhere else in the world, but cities are cities - very similar. There's a lot more to the world.

What possibilities do you speak of?

[koobcamuk]

Then the show would have to be called FOUND.

and it would've been good and only lasted 1 episode.

[tadunne]

Not sure if you have seen this from appleinsider, it basically says that Apple are looking to recruit camera engineers for the iPhone. If this is a recent request I myself wouldn't be counting on the camera being upgraded just yet.

Here is the link if you are interested:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/05/21/iphone_camera_job_vancouver_store_and_iphone_logic_8_0_2.html

I see these job ads as meaning that the current lead camera engineer has burnt themselves out creating the camera for the new 3g phone ;)

[The Phazer]

Fairly nice, but I am more than a little concerned that we're seeing lots of things like this, but still no sign of basic UI functionality improvements that have been required since day 1. Surely things like horizontal keyboard in all apps, functional bluetooth, copy & paste, file upload, voice dialing, radio remote support, MMS, wifi podcast download, search worth a damn in YouTube etc etc etc should be getting fixed first? And *none* of them seem to be getting fixed in 2.0 so far.

I'm hoping that they're just been kept behind close doors and will be there come June 9th, but it is concerning that there seems to be no sign of them.

Phazer

[Mykolas]

Stupid people. Why rate neagative? :confused:

[kaiwai]

Stupid people. Why rate neagative? :confused:

Because this forum is filled with idiots who randomly click on things.

[Orelhas]

Because this forum is filled with idiots who randomly click on things.

Because some people might be worried with the consequences on your privacy! I think it will be cool app but must have some security! For example: you take a picture and upload it to the internet. Everyone knows where you are if the tag is on the foto, even if hidden! That's why some people rate it as negative! Or they just don't like it! Not because they're stupid!

[wal9000]

"Camera" would like to use your current location. Cancel or allow?

Your phone is beginning to sound like Vista. Cancel or allow?

[kaiwai]

Because some people might be worried with the consequences on your privacy! I think it will be cool app but must have some security! For example: you take a picture and upload it to the internet. Everyone knows where you are if the tag is on the foto, even if hidden! That's why some people rate it as negative! Or they just don't like it! Not because they're stupid!

Excuse me, but you are asked before it is done. The conclusion still stands that there are idiots.

[obliterations]

That Sea Dragon stuff is cool!

Zoomable user interfaces, thousands of peoples photos "seemed" together making practically 3d image, is badass. In the future, I can imagine an almost virtual walkthrough of any popular place in the world, through the use of other peoples photos.

Cell phone cameras can only help this to become reality.

So Im outside my house taking photos of my street that eventually lead into my house. Will people goe-zoom into my living room to see my friends drinking beer?

[psychofreak]

So Im outside my house taking photos of my street that eventually lead into my house. Will people goe-zoom into my living room to see my friends drinking beer?

Nope. You don't have to upload any photos you don't want seen.

[voicegy]

I smell a fake.

Either Apple is ignoring their own UI guidelines or is just falling off... but I have never seen "OK" in an Apple dialog box. Apple recommends an active verb to initiate the action—in this case, "Use" would probably be used instead of "OK".

Second, that dialog box is unnecessary. Apple would either set it for you automatically with a preference or not. Apple has also never referred to its applications directly either. If you've just taken a picture, it's pretty obvious it's from the Camera application. It would probably be better phrased such as "Use your current location with this photo?" with "Don't Use" or "Use".

It's not a fake. The pic is accurate. Trust me. ;)

[JonboyDC]

What does it do for the USER besides take our photos and info and give them to Google to build Google Earths database of mapping or whatever company or app the info is going to????? If that's all it is then I'm really NOT interested in participating.

It has nothing to do with Google -- I can't imagine this or any phone uploading your photos to any service without your consent. This is just another way for you to organize your photos. Imagine -- you're looking to buy a house and you go to a bunch of open houses in one day, and take pictures of features you really like. And then you get home and can't remember which photo goes with which house -- with geo-tagging, you can easily place each photo on the map so you'll know where you were when you took it.

It's not life-altering, but it's a nice piece of functionality to have.

[celebi23]

About how many days are the betas usually posted for all iPhone Devs, after being posted for Enterprise Devs? Just a bit interested

[zync]

It has nothing to do with Google -- I can't imagine this or any phone uploading your photos to any service without your consent. This is just another way for you to organize your photos. Imagine -- you're looking to buy a house and you go to a bunch of open houses in one day, and take pictures of features you really like. And then you get home and can't remember which photo goes with which house -- with geo-tagging, you can easily place each photo on the map so you'll know where you were when you took it.

It's not life-altering, but it's a nice piece of functionality to have.

I could really have used that last year along with google's street view. It would have saved me a lot of time. Incidentally, I was at the bar outside—literally—of work and we saw a street view vehicle with cameras mounted on it pass by. I wonder how long it'll be until that gets uploaded.

[Mahler12x]

Yep! Get ready! Big Brother/Employer watching you! :eek:

Ha, don't be silly. There's no precedent for telecom companies sharing your private records with the government for domestic surveillance purposes... oh wait, nevermind.

[probably]

"Camera" would like to use your current location. Cancel or allow?

Your phone is beginning to sound like Vista. Cancel or allow?

granted, revealing your coordinates is a more pressing reason for a dialog box than asking for permission for Internet Explorer to connect to something.