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arn
May 10, 2002, 04:01 PM
This Apple article (http://developer.apple.com/wwdc2002/pixar.html) indicates that Pixar may be moving towards Mac OS X:

Two years later, Pixar Animation Studios, makers of Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Monsters, Inc. and other top-selling animated films, has been finding more and more ways to replace their existing Linux, Sun and Windows-based computer systems with Macintosh computers running Mac OS X.

The article discusses how Pixar is using Cocoa for rapid development of custom tools.

D0ct0rteeth
May 10, 2002, 04:09 PM
cool article..

Dr. Michael Johnson is a pimp...

I think jobs may have something to say about OSX don't you? it will be a little odd if they would still have windows servers around in a year...

C-

Ensign Paris
May 10, 2002, 04:14 PM
Well I think this kinds of kills the rumors the steve had a dell on his desk, I never thought they were real!

Ensign

Mr. Anderson
May 10, 2002, 04:22 PM
Its not all that surprising, considering Jobs involvement with Pixar to begin with. I'm also sure that with the new Mac Rack Servers coming out, Pixar will most likely jump up and grab some. I've seen pics of their render farm, it was huge.

On their next movie after the trailers are finished, I'd love to see 'Made on a Macintosh' scroll up:D

Timothy
May 10, 2002, 04:30 PM
I think this is an important development. Given their ties with Steve Jobs, the idea that they weren't using macs for this type of work was embarrasing.

I have to think that Pixar is a motivation for the development of the entire Mac platform. I would bet that it has been a huge motivating factor in the upcoming Rack Macs; I'd even wager that pixar has been involved in key areas of the development, providing key input and feedback.

And, once the entire company is running macs, you can bet that the next big pixar film will feature "Made on a Mac" in many different ways.

oranjdisc
May 10, 2002, 04:42 PM
...through someone who works @ Pixar that Jobs has been using an old Toshiba laptop with NeXT running on it for years, and only recently starting using a PowerBook instead. Apparently when he started using the PowerBook, and realized he couldn't plug a big ol LCD studio display into it without a DVI adapter, he put forth motion to build their own DVI > ADC connector, and put a DVI port in the side.

Take it for what it is worth, but that's what they told me. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

3rdpath
May 10, 2002, 05:22 PM
pixar's also had some amazing earnings lately. might as well tie your boat to something that will be afloat for awhile.

having said that, you KNOW what i'm gonna say next: i think pixars stock is overvalued right now....:D

cryptochrome
May 10, 2002, 06:28 PM
Ya know, I'm learning Cocoa, and it'd be interesting to see the source for that storyboarding app. Sounds more complicated than I know how to do yet (though I don't know exactly what goes into a storyboarding app, and AFAIK most Cocoa apps START with building an interface), wonder how well trained this guy way.

The Bender
May 11, 2002, 02:23 AM
The Bender gets an 'object not found' when he follows the link, and searching the ADC site for 'pixar' is equally unsatisfying.

All conspiracy theories gratefully received.

wake up Jobs!!!
May 11, 2002, 09:00 AM
I thought Pixar allready ran Macs??? I mean come on arn't they owned by apple anyway??

Longey Nowze
May 11, 2002, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by wake up Jobs!!!
I thought Pixar allready ran Macs??? I mean come on arn't they owned by apple anyway??

Nope it is owned by Steve Jobs... Steve & Apple are two different things

THANK YOU
MaT

The Bender
May 11, 2002, 10:24 AM
I thought Pixar allready ran Macs?
They do, but not for the high-end stuff.

teabgs
May 11, 2002, 10:54 AM
I think this is a very good development. True Steve owns Pixar so this could have some bias, BUT they wouldnt switch to macs unless they were equivelent if not better then the competition for the high end stuff. It just wouldnt be good for business and if the aps were running slower on the macs it would piss the animators off. I'm sure the managment doesnt want to piss of the animators, seeing as they bring in so much money with each film. This could bring good things to the consumer in the long run. Faster/better updates maybe? :D

DavidRavenMon
May 11, 2002, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Ensign Paris
Well I think this kinds of kills the rumors the steve had a dell on his desk, I never thought they were real!

Ensign

Steve did used to use an IBM Thinkpad running NeXTSTEP. I saw a picture of him using it to do the slide slow you see behind him at the first Macworld NY.

Have no idea what he uses now, but I would imagine it's running OS X.

Since he's been back at Apple, he's bassically transforming Apple into NeXT... (OS X, The Cube, etc.) Not that it's a bad thing mind you.

Wildcat
May 11, 2002, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Longey Nowze


Nope it is owned by Steve Jobs... Steve & Apple are two different things

THANK YOU
MaT

Steve does not own Pixar. He is just the CEO. I think he might be a co founder though. Just like he is at Apple.

arn
May 11, 2002, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Wildcat


Steve does not own Pixar. He is just the CEO. I think he might be a co founder though. Just like he is at Apple.

Actually Steve did own Pixar... he bought the company... not sure where it stands now since it's gone public... I guess no one person owns it.

arn

eddively
May 11, 2002, 09:28 PM
Uhm..correct..SJ does not OWN Apple, simply CEO, however I believe he OWNS Pixar...no wonder that $1 aint too bad from Apple :)

Wildcat
May 11, 2002, 10:04 PM
Pixar’s initial public offering was on November 28, 1995 at $22.00 per share. It is listed as PIXR (nasdaq). So it is a publicly held company. But yes Steve did own it at one time. But now he probably just owns a piece of it.

arn
May 12, 2002, 12:39 AM
strangely... the original article is now gone from Apple's site...

not only that, but MacCentral had an article on it as well, and it's disappeared without a trace...

odd

arn

The Bender
May 12, 2002, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by arn
strangely... the original article is now gone from Apple's site...

not only that, but MacCentral had an article on it as well, and it's disappeared without a trace...

odd

arn
Whoa! When I noticed it missing from the Apple site, it was still there at MacCentral. Also it seems to have been removed in a hurry, because the link that led to it is still there, pointing into darkness from this page: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/articles/2002/05/wwdc/

Mr. Anderson
May 12, 2002, 11:19 AM
Just idle speculation, but that not a bad thing, what if the app actually got some notice and now Apple's considering putting in with one of their other 'movie' packages, or even just create a new iStoryboard. If its as good as they seem to mention, it would be a great tool for anyone doing video/animation work. Hell, I'd want it.

DavidRavenMoon
May 12, 2002, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by arn
strangely... the original article is now gone from Apple's site...

not only that, but MacCentral had an article on it as well, and it's disappeared without a trace...

odd

arn

This is very odd. I was the one that submitted the article to Slash Dot.

I have a suspicion that Maccentral misquoted. The Apple article never said they were replacing their Sun and Linux boxes. Obviously someone got pissed off over it!

Ah, the plot thickens!

David ;)

chewbaccapits
May 13, 2002, 02:07 AM
Dumb thread.

Wildcat
May 13, 2002, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by chewbaccapits
Dumb thread.

:o It's not dumb.

agreenster
May 13, 2002, 10:17 AM
Steve Jobs, while working with NeXT, bought the entire computer animation department from George Lucas and ILM for 10 Million in 1984 and started Pixar with John Lasseter and Ed Catmull, both of ILM at the time. (Check out Pixar.com and click through to the company's history)

So, I would say that Jobs is the founder. He may not be the financial owner since they have gone public, but lets just say (for safety's sake) that he is the owner.

Why doesnt Pixar mainly use Apple? Simple. The same reason Jeff Gordon doesnt drive a station wagon. Dont get me wrong, Apple computers are great, but they simply arent adequate to do the really high end crunching that an SGI can do. Its all SGI in the effects and animation industry right now for workstations, and Sun doing the rendering. Thats the way it will be for quite some time. SGI is really leaps and bounds ahead in the hardware department, and thats why you'll spend upwards of 15,000 or more (easily) for one animator's workstation. I mean, these things are practically hardware-rendering on the fly. Apple's computers are years away from that.

And you know what? Thats fine. Apple comuters are great for doing 3D stuff. Maya, Cinema 4D and other apps are on the Mac, and do a great job. I should know, I use them daily. But Apple isnt ready for the really high end effects and animation Pixar is spitting out.

ipiloot
May 17, 2002, 07:26 AM
http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/holdings.asp?symbol=PIXR`&selected=PIXR&FormType=Institutional

Mr. Anderson
May 17, 2002, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by ipiloot
http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/holdings.asp?symbol=PIXR&selected=PIXR&FormType=Institutional

That link didn't work. Try this one.

Nice site, very interesting