View Full Version : Poll: What is your Apple Mail Junk Mail Setting? (Preferences -> JunkMail)
MacRumors
Nov 26, 2003, 09:22 AM
Vote: Poll: What is your Apple Mail Junk Mail Setting? (Preferences -> JunkMail) (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=325)
1macker1
Nov 26, 2003, 09:36 AM
Not 1 single piece of junk mail since i've had my Mac. But I dont really give my email addy out to anyone. I use an alternate account for sites that require a email addy.
Bear
Nov 26, 2003, 09:53 AM
Actually, my ISP filters the email, but Mail grabs a few more that the ISP misses.
stefman
Nov 26, 2003, 10:20 AM
Love Mail.app's Junk Mail filter. It works quite well (98%).
punter
Nov 26, 2003, 10:22 AM
good poll. I'm still on training because well, I have only received two pieces of junk in the last year.
For people who use the filter, how well does it work?
Ambrose Chapel
Nov 26, 2003, 10:22 AM
auto. as i wrote in another thread, however, the filter has let much more spam into my inbox since upgrading to panther. it was almost perfect by the end of jag
Powerbook G5
Nov 26, 2003, 10:22 AM
I haven't had any junk mail since I switched from OS 9/AOL broadband to OS X/.mac. I still have it set to training just in case, but after two months of using my new PowerBook with my new .mac email address, I have been junk free and couldn't be happier.
SilvorX
Nov 26, 2003, 10:44 AM
i set rules so that junk automatically goes to the trash, but ever since i did that, even newsletters that i need by email get sent there without me knowing lol
howard
Nov 26, 2003, 10:45 AM
i never get junkmail so i don't use the filter.
i've managed to keep all my accounts junkmail free, they have been for about 2 years now.
rainman::|:|
Nov 26, 2003, 10:51 AM
i get 10-50 junk messages per day... thanks to Mail's filter, i actually see about one per month. not bad at all, i'd say. it was a snap to set up, i don't understand people that use 3rd party or no filter... unless you don't get junk mail, like howard, but that's difficult as even ISP's sell your address.
i wish i could have Mail's filter work on my yahoo and excite accounts... which i have all but abandoned, thanks to hundreds of messages flooding the inboxes...
pnw
Powerbook G5
Nov 26, 2003, 10:54 AM
It's all about .mac :) No more 60 emails a day from AOL telling me how to enlarge my penis, win a trip to Florida, or look for webcam strip shows.
From Win to Mac
Nov 26, 2003, 11:57 AM
Hotmail is so effective (can you believe it ??) that i don't even use Mail.
Their is a big downside to having all your mail in one place. Except, of course, if you have a laptop.
eyelikeart
Nov 26, 2003, 12:05 PM
I'm a freak about my email, and who I give what to.
I have my junk email addy that I use for signing up for things & such, which happens to be my aol addy that I keep for $4 a month. Then there's my secondary email that I use for things that are semi-important, like MacRumors, that I use thru mail. I barely get junk there. Then there's the addy from my domains that never get junk because I don't use them for anything other than business contacts & people who do not forward me crap emails. ;)
cionheart
Nov 26, 2003, 12:05 PM
Question: Does Mails Junk filter still learn when you turn the automatic mode on? I think it does but I would appreciate if someone could confirm it :-)
mrsebastian
Nov 26, 2003, 12:11 PM
use entourage and the filter in there runs pretty well. is it just me or is the amount of junk mail just getting out of control?!
wdlove
Nov 26, 2003, 12:16 PM
I personally don't use mail. My wife has her setting on Junk Mail Enabled - Automatic. She is very happy that she doesn't get spam.
nickysfuture
Nov 26, 2003, 12:34 PM
I use it on automatic. I also added a second rule that says if something is junk mail and from my address, it also gets moved to the junk folder. I guess some spammers figured out that a lot of people (like me) have their filters set to not take out mail from people in their address book, and since your address is almost always in your address book, they spoof your address when sending you mail. So, while Mail's filter worked great for most things, it would dutifully abstain from saying anything when it thought I was trying to sell myself cock pills. Now it tosses it in the bin with everything else, and my inbox is clean once more.
I just have to remember to refrain from offering me a mortgage when I email myself.
iPC
Nov 26, 2003, 12:41 PM
It's all about the rules man!
Junk mail is set to automatic, but it only moves the messages to the Junk folder, does not delete them.
All Apple email is moved to the Apple folder (still have not gotten a single one of those yet).
I bounce all messages in the Junk folder once verified that they are indeed Junk.
All replies from my ISP stating that it is a invalid email (from the bounce) are moved to Trash, and deleted.
There are a few others... but those are specific to known bad domains.
Doctor Q
Nov 26, 2003, 01:45 PM
Here's a big THANK YOU to arn for the fact that MacRumors never shares the e-mail addresses of members with "3rd parties", "partners", or anyone else.
Occasionally, mail has asked me if a MacRumors e-mail was junk. I said no and that was that.
Meanwhile, for e-mail at work, I don't use Apple's mail application, but I wrote my own server-side spam filter that gets rids of almost all spam. It has a whitelist, a blacklist, and a set of keyword-based point-counting rules, and I use SpamCop (http://www.spamcop.net/)'s service too. So very little spam gets through. The filter doesn't learn automatically, but it's easy to add a new keyword now and then. Today I added "Paris Hilton".
wdw_
Nov 26, 2003, 01:58 PM
I have the junk mail filter send my junk mail to my Junk Mail folder. I just let it pile up. I have collected 3062 pieces of junk mail since January 23, 2003.
ddbean
Nov 26, 2003, 03:14 PM
Mine still in training, 4 weeks now.
I get 50-60 spam a day, about 2-3 in my inbox. (My old email was on websites for years, now I'm switching to .mac account, all the junk is from old email account)
Panther is much faster on applying the rules to folders than 10.2.8 was.
Question;
Is the Junk Folder supposed to follow the same delete setting as the trash to auto delete after x hours/days? If so mine's not, and if not, is there a way to do so?
Also items in my inbox that I manaually flag as junk don't get flagged as junk and color coded as junk when I see them in the junk box.
Bunzi2k4
Nov 26, 2003, 04:24 PM
i don't use the junk mail filtering, because i never get any, when i do, i'll start it up
MoparShaha
Nov 26, 2003, 04:44 PM
I rarely get junk mail, and Mail's junk filter takes care of them. I have it set to automatic, and I have no worries. I have it delete junk mail after one week (Preferences>Accounts>Special Mailboxes).
medea
Nov 26, 2003, 06:17 PM
I still have it set to train as I recieve very little spam on my .mac address, for everything I need to use an email for that I'm afraid may generate spam I always use a yahoo account setup for just those purposes. I love the Mail app though, it's near perfect and I can't see myself using a bloated program like entourage.
jkojima
Nov 26, 2003, 09:38 PM
After 5+ years of no spam (which I prided myself on), I went from zero junk mail to well over 100 messages per day on my dedicated website password email account, and now have started getting them on my ultra private personal account. Rascally spammers.
Jaguar and Mail came to me at the precise moment, and the junk filter is THE reason I am a huge Mail fan. With Panther, as others here have reported, my accuracy rate dropped... but I'm getting it back up to par.
chewbaccapits
Nov 27, 2003, 01:30 AM
I get more junk under panther...not sure why....In fact (I have yahoo mail) and within yahoo's web-based mail..I don't seem to get some of the junk that shows up in MAIL!...what's up with that!
Sailfish
Nov 27, 2003, 01:43 AM
I use a Mac based ISP ever since my Windows server based ISP got infected with some kind of spam virus that gave out my email addy.
No problems ever since.
I think every dedicated Mac user should support Mac based ISP's.
How can we invoke change when we continue serving the very thing that is stopping us?
I don't know why Apple don't start their own ISP service, just about every Mac user would sign up in a heartbeat.
What a great POLL idea, do I need to bother submitting it?
mj_1903
Nov 27, 2003, 02:06 AM
I use .Mac for e-mail and get maybe 5 junk mail a day. My e-mail is widely publicized.
Compare this to my mother who does not use .Mac and does not publicize her e-mail address. She gets 120 every week at minimum.
I think Apple has a big hand in keeping my spam down, and I am appreciative of that. Otherwise, Junk Mail catches everything else for me with no issues.
Check this awesome article for some comparison's to the competition. At least Apple has an employee working on Junk Mail, seems Microsoft has an ant standing on a motherboard creating short circuits to guess whether mail is junk or not.
http://www.mapilab.com/articles/outlook_spam_filter.html
Sabenth
Nov 27, 2003, 02:11 AM
Ive used my Mac for 5 months now sorry 6 and in that time frame ive had 4 i say again 4 junk things. its on traning iam still in traning with Macs so from windows to Mac in 6 months 4 junk mails and down from 50 plus if not more. . if i go to yahoo i have so much junk they gave us that bulk thing lovely..
well done apple
ive also got mail setup so that messages go all over the place to mail boxs so easy i cant belive it
mproud
Nov 27, 2003, 03:55 AM
No option for if you don't receive junk mail. Unlike the hotmails and the yahoos out there, I just don't get spam.
Is my filter on? Off? Training? I don't know, and I don't care :)
jrober
Nov 27, 2003, 06:19 AM
Guys,
I have used the tool since upgrading to Jaguar and very good it was too, until recently when I added a new e-mail address to my accounts.
Now it's either all junk or nothing. Any advice on how to cure my filter?
MacFan25
Nov 27, 2003, 10:30 AM
I have junk mail enabled, but I rarely get any spam. The most I get is maybe one every month.
eddyg
Nov 27, 2003, 07:21 PM
Hi,
Since I upgraded to Panther Mail.app has gone from detecting nearly all the SPAM that gets through the work filters to none, not one. I receive about 20 SPAMs a day, and Mail.app doesn't detect any of them. I've tried resetting the database, but to no avail.
I'm hoping that an update to Mail.app will fix this. It can be quite embarrising at work to see some of these messages which you have to click on to mark as SPAM or delete...
ddbean
Nov 28, 2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by eddyg
Hi,
It can be quite embarrising at work to see some of these messages which you have to click on to mark as SPAM or delete...
While you do have to click on a message to mark as spam you don't have to leave your meassage window open all the way to do so. You could drag the message window low to only expose the header lines and not the content while you work out what's happening with the filters. This may be a hassel, but might save being embarrased. Also if your other filters work, send all your known email from friends and coworkers to autofile in other folders, to leave only junk on your inbox. That way you don't have to keep moving your message pane while deleting junk.
Also I just changed the name of my junk folder from little "j"unk to Capital "J"unk and mail automatically created a new little "j"unk folder and started sending new spam there, so maybe try forcing mail to make a new folder, make sure you have it set to learning, and then send apple a bug report if nothing works.
That's all I could think of, and you've probally tried these anyway.
maradong
Nov 28, 2003, 06:12 AM
I get only "sven" spam mails. -> the windows virus always an exe bat of about 110 kb. nothing more.
btw is it normal that I can't check the messages in my spam mailbox ? I can click on it but the mails don't show up... Do I have to set a special setting somewhere ?
mrjamin
Nov 28, 2003, 01:46 PM
I found mail's junk filter quite good, but switched to SpamAssasin on the server and set it to prefix spam subjects with ** SPAM ** and then get mail to move anything beginning with ** SPAM ** to a junk folder.
Best combination I've tried
MrMacMan
Nov 30, 2003, 02:10 AM
Acually I have the Opposite!
I have Junk Mail Setting... you see mine is...
I sign up for an AOL account and POOF!
I have spam.
Then I have more spam!
And more and more and more...
Then I have a 1:70 (real e-mail:spam mail) Ratio.
ITSS GREAT!
:mad: :mad:
gerror
Dec 1, 2003, 08:41 AM
I dont had a spam in more than 1 year .mac
jippy
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