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EMILinator
May 28, 2008, 10:35 PM
I am already going to be accepted into the nearby university..

what else will my high school GPA be used for?


i am so unmotivated to do my english and history finals. my finals are projects, so i didnt really have to study. by bombing these finals, i will go from a C to D in both classes, as i have C's in those classes.

explain to me why i need an A over a D, compared to PASS and FAIL.



NT1440
May 28, 2008, 10:38 PM
some skools take back their acceptance if you completely stop working

cycocelica
May 28, 2008, 10:53 PM
some skools take back their acceptance if you completely stop working

I don't know about skools, but I know some schools :p can reject you if it shows that you got senioritis (aka gave up because you got accepted). Your final report card can be crucial.

I have never heard this happening though.

dukebound85
May 28, 2008, 10:58 PM
hs gpa is used to
1)get into a college
2) get into honors program if they have one
3) gets your finaicial aide


now i used to think what is the point of doing well in college besides just pass

reasons are
1) Financial aid/scholarships
2) getting the first job/intership. this is a biggie too as your grade is only relevant for your first job after graduation. after that its all about previous work you have done. i know lockheed for example wont look at you unless you have a 3+gpa
3) need a good one for grad school
4) if you want to graduate with distinction

Badandy
May 28, 2008, 11:12 PM
I can almost see how the rest of your life is going to go based on your attitude towards school work that is displayed in your first post.

NT1440
May 28, 2008, 11:17 PM
I don't know about skools, but I know some schools :p can reject you if it shows that you got senioritis (aka gave up because you got accepted). Your final report card can be crucial.

I have never heard this happening though.

dun did gone an coreected my learnin now did ya?

Lets gettum boys!:mad:

lol

ipodtoucher
May 28, 2008, 11:21 PM
If that college notices that drop in performance, they can drop your acceptance...but you will also use it for applying to real jobs. The better you do the better you will do in the future

jb60606
May 28, 2008, 11:34 PM
Your college acceptance is not guaranteed. They can pull it if you give them reason to. Your grades are sent to them.

zioxide
May 28, 2008, 11:47 PM
i am so unmotivated to do my english and history finals. my finals are projects, so i didnt really have to study.

so they're not even hard.

stop being a lazy ass and just do the work.

EMILinator
May 28, 2008, 11:51 PM
ughh.
im just really unmotivated.. im hoping an overrall high school GPA of 2.0 can get into my university.. and that GPA is UNweighted. i am taking IB classes, similar to AP classes, so hopefully my weighted GPA will be a little better..

Iscariot
May 28, 2008, 11:52 PM
I think a better question would be "Are you willing to risk the possibility that your GPA will hold you back?"

Aranince
May 28, 2008, 11:55 PM
I know a high GPA can help on keeping car insurance low...

evilgEEk
May 29, 2008, 12:30 AM
I know a high GPA can help on keeping car insurance low...

You need to have a 3.0 for that discount, plus that would only help his parents, you know, the people that pay his insurance.

I know it's hard when you lose motivation, but come on, just man up and get your work done.

David G.
May 29, 2008, 12:40 AM
Haha, The seniors at my school got out on Monday.









The 12th.:D

Hummer
May 29, 2008, 12:58 AM
I can almost see how the rest of your life is going to go based on your attitude towards school work that is displayed in your first post.

Because negative reinforcement is always the way.
I've always loved these types of responses.


It always helps to have a good GPA at the end of high school just because if your school does ask for a final report card you don't have to sit there for hours figuring out an excuse on what to say to the college of your choice. It also widens your options for scholarships and summer internships.

rhsgolfer33
May 29, 2008, 03:13 AM
ughh.
im just really unmotivated.. im hoping an overrall high school GPA of 2.0 can get into my university.. and that GPA is UNweighted. i am taking IB classes, similar to AP classes, so hopefully my weighted GPA will be a little better..

Man, you'd better hope, I can't think of a school, other than a community college, here in California that would let you in with a 2.0 GPA (unless you have phenomenal SAT scores). You'd better really step it up in college, a lot of schools require 3.0 GPA or higher to maintain scholarships/not be on academic probation. Classes are going to require much more work too and it will probably be somewhat harder work. No more busy work worksheets that count for a bunch of points, its going to be all reading that you have to motivate yourself to do, and then essays and tests to determine your grade.

Do your best now and consider it preparation for all the crap you're not going to want to do in college.

CalBoy
May 29, 2008, 03:25 AM
Because negative reinforcement is always the way.

That isn't actually an example of negative reinforcement.

Negative reinforcement removes a negative feeling/action as a result of doing something positive (ie, your parents give you back your iPod if your grades improve).

Conversely, positive reinforcement provides a new positive thing that the person would like (ie your parents buy you an iPod because of your good grades).

What you really mean to say is that negative attitudes aren't going to help anyone.

OP, I think it's important for you to remember that even if it doesn't matter to the school you're going to (which I'm sure it actually DOES), it does demonstrate a very bad case of that dreaded disease that is infamously known as

Senioritis

:p

I'm sure you're already in summer mode, but think of it this way: once you finish these projects, you'll be done and you can enjoy your time off because it will have been well earned. :)

Or, if you'd like, you can hear the horror stories of going to college, wherin after finishing finals last week, I continued to study for the LSAT, began filling out the last stages of paperwork for my Americorps internship (7:30am to 5pm everyday for 9 weeks...woot?), and of course realized that I had put on a few pounds during finals week and now have to work them off.

Wanna trade? :p;)

Rodimus Prime
May 29, 2008, 07:12 AM
Ah the joys of seniorist. I warn you now it will repeat it self in your last Semester of college as well.

I along with many friends struggled to keep motivated in the last semester of college as we had to do was pass our classes because we already had job lined up after graduation

My advice is just hang in there and force yourself to keep at it. Though out life you will hit times like this and you just have to mussel your way though it.

extraextra
May 29, 2008, 11:34 AM
Aside from getting into college, it won't be used again.

Counterfit
May 29, 2008, 02:06 PM
a lot of schools require 3.0 GPA or higher to maintain scholarships/not be on academic probation.

3.0 to stay off AP? That sounds pretty harsh.

Anyways, I failed my senior year math class, and yet I still got a merit scholarship for college. That was kinda weird considering I was going into engineering... :confused:

rhsgolfer33
May 29, 2008, 02:25 PM
3.0 to stay off AP? That sounds pretty harsh.

Sorry, I kinda phrased that wrong. I know quite a few schools that will put on on AP if you have a scholarship and receive lower than a 3.0 GPA. I know a good few students that its happened to. I really don't understand it, its not that hard to get a 3.0. It really bugs me, I work 20 hours a week, am in two clubs, run one club, and still manage to pull 3.9+; so I really don't understand it when half the people I know, who don't work, don't do school events, etc, pull lower than a 3.0. Just a peeve of mine. I mean, geez, they all pay $24,000+ a year to go to school, whats the point of sitting through class on facebook, not learning anything, and getting C's and D's?

danny_w
May 29, 2008, 02:30 PM
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now i used to think what is the point of doing well in college besides just pass

reasons are
1) Financial aid/scholarships
2) getting the first job/intership. this is a biggie too as your grade is only relevant for your first job after graduation. after that its all about previous work you have done. i know lockheed for example wont look at you unless you have a 3+gpa
3) need a good one for grad school
4) if you want to graduate with distinction
Every company that I have worked for in my 30+ years have ALL at least ASKED about my GPA (I am a software engineer). It would seem that it would only be for your first job, but no, my current employer (since '99) I know asked for it. And it is also not true that a very high GPA always looks better to an employer - my wife (I think she has a 3.9x) almost didn't get her first job because the boss thought she would be book smart but with no common sense (this is what her boss told her when she asked what got her the job).

UWSpindoctor
May 29, 2008, 08:24 PM
However, assuming you have your Bachelors, no company is going to look at your high school GPA which is what the OP was asking about.

Hawkeye411
May 29, 2008, 08:31 PM
ughh.
im just really unmotivated.. im hoping an overrall high school GPA of 2.0 can get into my university.. and that GPA is UNweighted. i am taking IB classes, similar to AP classes, so hopefully my weighted GPA will be a little better..

Geez ... I hope your feeling better when you get to university or you are not going to do very well. Are you depressed? Sounds like you might be.

Cheers.
:):apple:

MacDawg
May 29, 2008, 08:31 PM
However, assuming you have your Bachelors, no company is going to look at your high school GPA which is what the OP was asking about.

not true, and yes, i am a hiring manager for a large company

as stated above, it will be a part (or should/could be) of every resume you submit for the rest of your life

now, you can spin it, explain it, argue against the value of it, but the bottom line is... it is in black and white and is a reflection on you

Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

Xander562
May 29, 2008, 09:14 PM
What grade are you in? I hope a senior because that GPA and that attitude will NOT get you into college. A friend of mine got ONE D in his last semester of high school and got rejected from a college he was previously accepted to. It might not make a lot of sense (I think it's lame too, screw the college board) but it's the way they like to work. Just humor them for a little while longer. :p

RacerX
May 30, 2008, 05:21 AM
Well, this is more or less a do as I say, not as I did sort of thing, but I graduated high school with a 2.03 weighted GPA.

I was sick to death of school my senior year and my first wife was constantly having to make sure that I was doing my homework and studying for tests. I can remember her getting quite upset seeing me work on take home tests while she was driving me to school. She would asked when it was due, and I'd reply when I get to school. Then she would ask when it was handed out and I'd tell her a week earlier.

My heart just wasn't in it, and it wouldn't have mattered if I had gotten into any college as I just needed time off... which I took. I spent the next two years working and running (for a Track club), and by the time I started up school again I was hungry for it. I went to a junior college for a couple years, and then I transferred to UCSD.

But I should point out that by that point I also had taken a one year series in upper division mathematics and a one year series in graduate level mathematics at UCSD while I was still attending the junior college. And that even though I was a declared physics major, I had a growing list of people in the mathematics department who went out of there way to help me get into UCSD. This included the provost of Muir College (http://www-muir.ucsd.edu/) (the college at UCSD I was applying to) who was also part of the mathematics department (specializing in topology). And it was also thanks to the petitioning by those people that a bunch of requirements that I hadn't completed were overlooked so I could transfer.

With that type of support from the mathematics department, it shouldn't be surprising that less than a year after being accepted to UCSD I change my major to mathematics.


But that is a lot of things that have to go just your way to get around a poor high school performance. And even though I didn't have a good GPA, I had pretty good scores on my AP exams (I scored all 4s) and had placed well in physics and other academic competitions. And even though most of my teachers were disappointed in my performances in their classes in high school, they all still thought very highly of me.

I was quite lucky in that I've always had people around me that wanted me to succeed so badly that they were willing to overlook my (obvious) shortcomings. :eek:

wordmunger
May 30, 2008, 05:43 AM
as stated above, it will be a part (or should/could be) of every resume you submit for the rest of your life


I have never ever put my HS GPA on a resume. Once you have a college degree, it's completely irrelevant. In fact, I don't even put my college GPA on there any more (almost 20 years later). It's only relevant until you've got a few years job experience.

danny_w
May 30, 2008, 08:40 AM
I have never ever put my HS GPA on a resume. Once you have a college degree, it's completely irrelevant. In fact, I don't even put my college GPA on there any more (almost 20 years later). It's only relevant until you've got a few years job experience.
I never put either GPA on my resume any more either, but I have always been asked by every employer I have ever had in the last 30+ years what my college GPA was. So while your HS GPA may become irrelevant, your college GPA is never irrelevant (at least in my experience).

EMILinator
Jun 1, 2008, 12:35 AM
okay, i am a junior in high school, so i am in the graduating class of 2009.

next year, as a senior, i hope to do better, i hope to stay motivated.

i guess i just want the discipline and the interest all the 4.0 students have..

i also have a part time job at quizno's..

right now, i have a 2.4 unweighted, 2.8-2.9 weighted.

CalBoy
Jun 1, 2008, 12:38 AM
I thought you were a senior now? :confused:

You think you're guaranteed a spot in a college more than a year ahead of time?

Iscariot
Jun 1, 2008, 01:18 AM
I was sick to death of school my senior year and my first wife was constantly having to make sure that I was doing my homework and studying for tests. I can remember her getting quite upset seeing me work on take home tests while she was driving me to school.

You... were married in high school? And your GPA was 2.03? This information haunts me, like a ghost. A ghost of the unexpected Christmas past.

Badandy
Jun 1, 2008, 02:13 AM
Because negative reinforcement is always the way.
I've always loved these types of responses.


I subscribe to the Simon Cowell type of advice.


C'mon, we've all had those moments in school where we didn't want to do work. Sometimes you'd do it anyway, sometimes you'd blow it off. Ya, we've all been there, but this is shocking:

explain to me why i need an A over a D, compared to PASS and FAIL.

Sure, you all can lambaste me for my response which lacked compassion, but are you reading the same thing I'm reading? What that quote displays is a terrible mindset towards educating oneself. Not only that, but is there no shred of pride of wanting to do well in something? School gives you an opportunity to learn new things that will stay with you for the rest of your life, your Quiznos part-time job probably doesn't.

The more important thing here is that you at least try to do well. You don't need an A, and does anyone expect you to study twenty hours per day? No, but what you should feel compelled to do is at least make an effort to do reasonably well. I mean, you've just put forth the prospect of getting a D with such a cavalier attitude in your JUNIOR year of high school (the most important one for college admissions departments) that it's scary and mind boggling.

Remember, not everyone finds joy in learning school subjects, and not everyone is made for college, but you've seemed to resign yourself to getting a D, and just started a thread on a website (where I would guess the majority of people are intelligent) trying to get us to console you and tell you everything is alright. Have some confidence. You know how you can avoid all this uncertainty with your grades? You can try to do well and you won't have to deal with all of this stupid hypothetical crap of you almost failing a high school history class...


Sorry about the rant, but the type of attitude portrayed in the original post is one of the reasons schooling in the U.S. sucks. You can blame the public education system all you want, the under-budgeted programs, but this is a mentality that is completely self-defeating.

RacerX
Jun 1, 2008, 02:41 AM
You... were married in high school? And your GPA was 2.03? This information haunts me, like a ghost. A ghost of the unexpected Christmas past.
Married... in high school? Of course not! :eek:

She was still one of the teachers at my school at that point. We didn't get married until about a year after I graduated. Though she did start staying with my family before I graduated (in separate rooms) and we moved in together right after graduation. And even then the marriage didn't last all that long (a little less than 10 years).

What can I say... I'm from a small town in California (this is the backwards home of my youth (http://www.californiacoastline.org/cgi-bin/image.cgi?image=9970&mode=sequential&flags=0&year=2002)). And my parents knew we were spending a ton of time together since my Junior year, and we even double dated with my parents by the middle of my Senior year (which made going to restaurants a lot easier).

Context... you have to put all of this stuff into context. Otherwise you could get the wrong ideas. :eek:


:rolleyes:

Now let the haunting begin. :D

UWSpindoctor
Jun 1, 2008, 05:11 PM
not true, and yes, i am a hiring manager for a large company

as stated above, it will be a part (or should/could be) of every resume you submit for the rest of your life

now, you can spin it, explain it, argue against the value of it, but the bottom line is... it is in black and white and is a reflection on you


You actually ask for the High School GPA for potential hires who have a Bachelors or more advanced degree? I didn't even mention my high school on my resume and it was never asked about. Although I could see it being a factor for applying for internships while in college or if you don't get a college degree.

Out of curiosity, what field are you in?

operator207
Jun 1, 2008, 05:46 PM
You actually ask for the High School GPA for potential hires who have a Bachelors or more advanced degree? I didn't even mention my high school on my resume and it was never asked about. Although I could see it being a factor for applying for internships while in college or if you don't get a college degree.

Out of curiosity, what field are you in?

Same here, my Wife, whom is an IT Recruiter for a large firm in DFW, does not ask for HS information unless the candidate does not have any College on their resume. And then its only to see if they have a GED or did they Graduate HS. Her and her clients are more interested in work in the field they are looking to hire in, than HS education. If the Field they are hiring for would require a College education (VP of IT would be one field she has hired for) that is normally when she would look at College Education. Never HS at that point.

It seems if the candidate has the qualifications for the job, but does not have the college education, companies are starting to wain in requiring a college education. I am NOT (read that as NOT) saying a college education is going to be worthless in the near future, but I am saying college by the time my children will be of age, is going to be only for the richest and elitist.

I have worked with many people in the IT industry, some with College educations some without. I could not say one way or the other that a college education was worth it. At least for the IT Admin field that is.

themadchemist
Jun 1, 2008, 09:04 PM
Can't help but echo what someone else said...My friend, it's awfully presumptuous (unless your parents donated a building or something) to assume that you're going to be admitted to any university with a 2.4 HS GPA. So, to answer your question, your high school GPA will be used to reject your butt from college unless you start showing some commitment.

63dot
Jun 2, 2008, 07:02 AM
I am already going to be accepted into the nearby university..

what else will my high school GPA be used for?


i am so unmotivated to do my english and history finals. my finals are projects, so i didnt really have to study. by bombing these finals, i will go from a C to D in both classes, as i have C's in those classes.

explain to me why i need an A over a D, compared to PASS and FAIL.

congrats on being accepted into university

try and take a moderate approach and enjoy some extra time off, but don't completely go off the deep end and blow off school completely

i know of one guy who was all A grades and when he got accepted to a very good school, he instantly got a girl friend and became very amourous...well, you know where that led :)

keep a sound mind and always be humble