Which would you prefer, 64 GB touch or 32 GB iPhone?

[mariokarter]

Assuming the next two configurations of ipods/iphones are a 64 GB touch and a 32 GB iPhone, which would you prefer? Right now I'm looking for a new mp3 player to house my 50 GB+ music collection. Right now I have an iPhone (which i love) but don't even use it for playing music much because syncing music is a pane in the ass. So...a 64 gig iPhone is unlikely to come out, but a 64 gig touch likely will. Do you think its worth sacrificing the speaker, volume key, and play pause button (all of which I use)?

Realistically trying to get enough juice out of one battery to be a phone and mp3 player just isn't possible so I'll likely be carrying two devices most of the time anyways. So perhaps getting the touch isn't so bad if I have my iPhone/nokia with me anyways.

Question for an owner of both a touch and iPhone: Can an ipod touch utilise the play/pause function of iPhone headphones?

[mariokarter]

also one more reason why im hesitant to jump for the touch is it doesn't come with a dock and wall charger right? Just the usb cable.

[jakeacc]

I hate having to carry my iPod and a cell phone around with me. I prefer one device that will do both. Thats why I'm getting an iPhone.

32 GBs is a lot of music. I have about 80 GBs on my computer, but I dont need all 80 GBs with me on my portable device.

[NC MacGuy]

I'm in for the touch. Already have a phone that I seem to lose every year and a half or so which would kill me if an iphone.

[marksman]

I could fit my music in 32 gigs, so I am looking for 32 gig iPhone.

[seattle]

32 GB iPhone would work great for me.

[sushi]

Assuming the next two configurations of ipods/iphones are a 64 GB touch and a 32 GB iPhone, which would you prefer?
If I had neither, I would go with the 32GB iPhone for the added features over the Touch.

This will be especially true if he rumored iPhone has GPS and 3G.

[Chaszmyr]

32gb iPhone for sure. I'd love 64gb, but why carry around a Touch when I'm already carrying around an iPhone?

[neven]

32 GB iPhone all the way.

Mind if I ask which part of music syncing you're having trouble with? Not trying to be a smartass, but I find iTunes' music syncing options to be plentiful and excellent.

[Zwhaler]

32gig iPhone... I would be fine with 16 so 32 would be great.

[Santa Rosa]

1.Assuming the next two configurations of ipods/iphones are a 64 GB touch and a 32 GB iPhone, which would you prefer? Right now I'm looking for a new mp3 player to house my 50 GB+ music collection.

2.Right now I have an iPhone (which i love) but don't even use it for playing music much because syncing music is a pane in the ass. So...a 64 gig iPhone is unlikely to come out, but a 64 gig touch likely will.

3.Do you think its worth sacrificing the speaker, volume key, and play pause button (all of which I use)?

4.Realistically trying to get enough juice out of one battery to be a phone and mp3 player just isn't possible so I'll likely be carrying two devices most of the time anyways. So perhaps getting the touch isn't so bad if I have my iPhone/nokia with me anyways.

Question for an owner of both a touch and iPhone: Can an ipod touch utilise the play/pause function of iPhone headphones?

All of your logic is ridiculously confused.

The iPod Touch and iPhone are two very different products when you look at it. The iPod Touch is for people who want the touch features but do not want / cannot have / cannot afford the iPhone. For some reason you want to have both?? What is the point. It just sounds like you want to have the touch features for the sake of having them all of which are on the iPhone anyway, when you could be sensible, have an iPhone for general iPod use, then get a high capacity iPod Classic for when you are actually needing all that large capacity. An example being myself in which I have an iRiver H340 (old school yea!!) for music in the car, but have the iPhone for when walking about.

1. You want to have a 50GB+ music collection, yes you are speculating that the capacity will rise, but really wanting to have that large a collection really only points to one thing, the iPod Classic. Also going into the 64GB territory at the moment is extremely expensive so I think it will be a while yet before it happens, although I may be wrong.

2. How is syncing a pain in the ass. That is just ridiculous logic when you sync the iPhone and iPod Touch exactly the same way.

3. You said that you never use your iPhone as a an iPod in point number 2. Now you say is it worth giving up the features which I quote "(all of which I use)" Stating that term like that implies that you use the features reasonably regularly. Again you are making no sensical argument.

4. The iPod on the iPhone I have found is very very good on the battery. Using it all day on my iPhone results in minimal hit to the battery life. So your statement of "Realistically trying to get enough juice out of one battery to be a phone and mp3 player just isn't possible" really is an uneducated stab in the dark obviously with minimal real life exposure to the subject.

I can never ever see the point of carrying such a large music collection just for the sake of having it for day to day use. Yes having it with you if you are going on a long journey, in the car, needing to take it with you for a specific reason or just to have for the speakers in the house. Otherwise an iPhone is more than enough.

My advice would be to clear your head, start really getting your thoughts on track and actually envision what you will really be doing. At the moment you seem very very confused as to what you want.

My advice would be iPhone for your phone and general iPod, then get a iPod Classic for when you actually need that sort of functionality with you.

[sjw]

Definitely the iPhone! I could fit my music collection on it and it would be awesome to have just the one gadget to carry around.

[mavis]

a 32GB iPhone is what I'm after.

I have an 8GB Touch and it's just nowhere near enough. I have to be pretty selective about what I put on it, I just checked iTunes and it seems I've got 2180 songs (15.07GB) rated three stars or higher - so a 16GB iPhone wouldn't cut it either. I'd like to be able to keep a movie or two on the iPhone, plus the latest episodes of my favorite TV shows (not to mention home videos for my family) ...

Yeah. I hope they release a 32GB iPhone - I don't care how much it costs, THAT'S the one I want. I'm guessing it'll be around $1000USD here in Tokyo, and that's how much I've got tucked away. :D

[davidg14]

2 different devices and it depends how much GB you need.
I have about 40 of music, but I could fit my music in 32 gigs.
and I need a new phone. Iphone :D

[razorianfly]

I have a 16Gb iPod touch atm, and would jump at a 64GB. I currently have roughly 40GB of music, so I'm picking and selecting which tracks I want with me at any given time, and hence 32GB doesn't cut it.

Plus, who wants to pay £35-50 a month for data charges when the iPod touch has the same services (minus SMS & Phone capability), but no charges?

I certainly don't. Bring on the next revision to iPod touch.

R-Fly

[Santa Rosa]

Plus, who wants to pay £35-50 a month for data charges when the iPod touch has the same services (minus SMS & Phone capability), but no charges?

Looks like another uneducated shot in the dark. You don't pay £35-50 a month just for data. You also get your minutes and texts in that bundle. You will find, and I am guessing you are meaning the O2 tariffs from the use of £, that the tariffs are very reasonable and good value for money for what you are actually getting (I admit at the start they were terrible though). Although many people have difficulty grasping this concept due to not being able to quantify the data costs.

You also state that the iPod Touch has the same services. I bet you will be one of the ones complaining when you have to pay for the 2.0 update to get those services. Another thing that will be free for iPhone users because of their contract.

Maybe you should actually do some research first before making bold unfounded comments like that.

[razorianfly]

Looks like another uneducated shot in the dark. You don't pay £35-50 a month just for data. You also get your minutes and texts in that bundle. You will find, and I am guessing you are meaning the O2 tariffs from the use of £, that the tariffs are very reasonable and good value for money for what you are actually getting (I admit at the start they were terrible though). Although many people have difficulty grasping this concept due to not being able to quantify the data costs.

Yes I was referring to o2, and I was actually referring to 'data charges' as a general summarization. Last time I checked 'minutes' and 'texts' are classed as being 'data'.

£35 is not value for money. After 12 months your down £420 (£35/mth on top of the 269.99 unit price? - that isn't value for money. Plus if you choose to keep the contract on, after 18 months, your down £630 just on the contract alone - I just can't justify paying in the region of £900 over 18 months for the iPhone on the MINIMUM contract currently offered.

I bet you will be one of the ones complaining when you have to pay for the 2.0 update to get those services. Another thing that will be free for iPhone users because of their contract.

As i've stated before, I have no problem what-so-ever (price dependent) with paying for updates to iPod touch. I'm actually happy Apple are a company who release these huge updates, regularly, instead of letting their products wither away with the same dull software, as most of the market does currently. I fully understand that Apple cream off the top of monthly contracts, and with the hugely inflated prices of these contracts, iPhone users should receive free updates, so I have no problem with that, I just can't justify paying o2's tariffs for something which I currently get free of charge (safari use). I'd pay for the minutes and text's, because I currently don't have that functionality, as I'm going to purchase the 2.0 update, and as I previously purchased the JSU, because it was added functionality. One thing I'm not going to do is lie down and let o2 take £35 a month for internet use, whether it be classed under 'unlimited use' or has a data tariff attached to it.

I don't need to be subjected to EDGE, I don't need internet access everywhere - sure it'd be nice, but I'm not about to pay o2 £35/mth for 18 months for the privilege - make it £15/24 months, then we might talk.

R-Fly

[citron230]

whatever happens with the touch is fine with me, i really want a 32GB iPhone. I hope they do offer a (Product)Red version as well, but i really am not counting on it. the current look is fine and goes well with my iMac.
I have my iPod Nano for the gym which only hold 8GB of music which is fine for the gym. the 32GB iphone would be nice for more videos and music on my phone and while traveling.

[Santa Rosa]

Yes I was referring to o2, and I was actually referring to 'data charges' as a general summarization. Last time I checked 'minutes' and 'texts' are classed as being 'data'.

£35 is not value for money. After 12 months your down £420 (£35/mth on top of the 269.99 unit price? - that isn't value for money. Plus if you choose to keep the contract on, after 18 months, your down £630 just on the contract alone - I just can't justify paying in the region of £900 over 18 months for the iPhone on the MINIMUM contract currently offered.

As i've stated before, I have no problem what-so-ever (price dependent) with paying for updates to iPod touch. I'm actually happy Apple are a company who release these huge updates, regularly, instead of letting their products wither away with the same dull software, as most of the market does currently. I fully understand that Apple cream off the top of monthly contracts, and with the hugely inflated prices of these contracts, iPhone users should receive free updates, so I have no problem with that, I just can't justify paying o2's tariffs for something which I currently get free of charge (safari use). I'd pay for the minutes and text's, because I currently don't have that functionality, as I'm going to purchase the 2.0 update, and as I previously purchased the JSU, because it was added functionality. One thing I'm not going to do is lie down and let o2 take £35 a month for internet use, whether it be classed under 'unlimited use' or has a data tariff attached to it.

I don't need to be subjected to EDGE, I don't need internet access everywhere - sure it'd be nice, but I'm not about to pay o2 £35/mth for 18 months for the privilege - make it £15/24 months, then we might talk.

R-Fly

Since when have data charges been a general summation. What is that all about?? Have you ever seen a 3G data dongle sold for data on the move and them saying, also with getting this it actually covers the cost of messages and calls you will be making from your computer. 300MB's of calls per month!! That is just complete and utter junk.

Calls are measured in minutes/seconds, Texts are measured in quantity and Data is measure in kilobytes. Always has been like that. You ever seen your calls measured in kilobytes?? Dont think so there. Also have you ever used a significant amount of data over a plan that does not included it. I doubt that as well. I can tell you, its expensive.

The whole thing is not a difficult concept of which seems to be missed on you. If you cant afford it, don't bitch about it. It may not be value for money to you but thats not the consensus of everyone.

[gloss]

32 GB iPhone would work great for me.

Same. I have a 43GB music library and about 33GB of video, so a 32GB iPod would provide me plenty of room to hold the 15-20GB of music I listen to most often along with a good chunk of TV to keep me occupied. 64GB would be cool, but probably a little overkill.

[klcc88]

tough say.......I have a blackberry for work so an iPhone's phone function does me no good. I do like the camera function of the iPhone. So if the space is not an issue, I'd go for the iPhone. I have the 32g itouch as the iPhone is not yet available in Canada and I did not want to void my warranty by buying the iphone @ $500-600 an get stuck if something goes wrong. Using my touch now at starbucks.

[extraextra]

I have quite a few GB's of music on my computer, but there's no way you can possibly listen to 50GB all the time, can you? I know it's irritating when you want to listen to a certain song/album and realize that's the one you decided NOT to add to your iPod/iPhone but I think that's how it's going to go. I'd take the 32GB iPHone.

[stagi]

32 iPhone. I think for having content on the go 32gb is enough. I just have the 8 right now and its OK but my last trip I did want to watch a few more movies on it so having 16 or 32 would be perfect for me.

[guitarguy09]

32GB iphone... enough said

[ucfgrad93]

32 GB iPhone would work great for me.

Me too!

[SFStateStudent]

I have to get (3) iPhones for my family plan, so 32GB is looking good! I use smartlists and rotate my smartlists and my movies on a regular basis.

[mariokarter]

32 GB iPhone all the way.

Mind if I ask which part of music syncing you're having trouble with? Not trying to be a smartass, but I find iTunes' music syncing options to be plentiful and excellent.

When your music collection is less than the capacity of your iPod you can set itunes to automatically sync all songs. So one simply needs to attach their ipod to their computer after updating their library and itunes does its magic.

When your ipod's capacity is less than your library obviously this is not an option. So the next best thing to do is check and uncheck content, as far as syncing goes this works perfectly, but it creates another problem. When playing music in itunes, if you are playing an unchecked item, when it finishes, itunes will jump to the next checked item, so you can't even listen to an unchecked album. I did create a playlist called "iPhone" so that i can have my entire library checked, but I don't like having the playlist cluttering my itunes.

[mariokarter]

2. How is syncing a pain in the ass. That is just ridiculous logic when you sync the iPhone and iPod Touch exactly the same way.

3. You said that you never use your iPhone as a an iPod in point number 2. Now you say is it worth giving up the features which I quote "(all of which I use)" Stating that term like that implies that you use the features reasonably regularly. Again you are making no sensical argument.



2 see other post.

3 Fair enough, I'll clarify. Relative to a dedicated mp3 player I do not use my iPhone's music playing capabilities that much. However, when I do use it to listen to music I find that I do use those other features most of the time.

[zap2]

iPhone 32Gb

For my iPhone, I really only want music, music videos...maybe a TV show or two, a movie.

32Gb fits that perfectly. 64Gb is nice, but I'll use the phone and text part more.

[gloss]

When your music collection is less than the capacity of your iPod you can set itunes to automatically sync all songs. So one simply needs to attach their ipod to their computer after updating their library and itunes does its magic.

When your ipod's capacity is less than your library obviously this is not an option. So the next best thing to do is check and uncheck content, as far as syncing goes this works perfectly, but it creates another problem. When playing music in itunes, if you are playing an unchecked item, when it finishes, itunes will jump to the next checked item, so you can't even listen to an unchecked album. I did create a playlist called "iPhone" so that i can have my entire library checked, but I don't like having the playlist cluttering my itunes.

Manually manage music.

[DiamondMac]

iPhone quite easily

I mean, I love the phone just for being a phone and the iPod makes it even better

[DCBass]

...

When your ipod's capacity is less than your library obviously this is not an option. So the next best thing to do is check and uncheck content, as far as syncing goes this works perfectly, but it creates another problem. When playing music in itunes, if you are playing an unchecked item, when it finishes, itunes will jump to the next checked item, so you can't even listen to an unchecked album. I did create a playlist called "iPhone" so that i can have my entire library checked, but I don't like having the playlist cluttering my itunes.

Hey mariokarter,

I think you're making this harder on yourself than you need to. Checking and un-checking songs is certainly a pain, but you don't have to manage your music like that.

I'm in a similar situation, with a 30gb iPod and a 60gb music collection. The way I roll is to have only certain smart playlists sync to the iPod. These include:

- 3+ Stars
- Must Have Artists ("artist" contains "___")
- Must Have Albums ("album" contains "____")
- Unrated Random (limited to 4000 songs)

That way, I always have the music I always want, plus a whole bevy of songs in case I feel like playing my whole library on random. The unrated random playlist refreshes everytime I sync my iPod. Also, I never have to worry about checking and unchecking songs.

This may not work best for you, but it's worked out pretty well for me. Hope this helps.

As for the general question you asked at the beginning, I'd like the 64BG touch. I have no desire to pay $20 / mo for the internet. Though, if I could do a pay-as-you-go data plan, and only add it to the iPhone for a particular period (say, on vacation), then I would definitely get the iPhone.

Cheers,
DCBass

[mariokarter]

thanks for the replies guys. I'll likely end up with the touch, the music syncing thing just bugs me I suppose.

Nobody can answer about about iPhone headphones working with a touch though???

[neven]

DCBass answered your music syncing question perfectly. It's all about playlists, especially smart ones. For me, it's *better* than syncing my whole library - after a few minutes of playlist-setting, I can now shuffle all the music on my iPhone and not run into audiobooks, long classical pieces, stand-up comedy, etc.

The headphone button will unfortunately have no effect on an iPod touch.

[DCBass]

you can lead a horse to water...


no offense of course. different strokes for different folks.

DCBass

[NT1440]

also one more reason why im hesitant to jump for the touch is it doesn't come with a dock and wall charger right? Just the usb cable.

...no ipod comes with a dock or wall charger. (first time buyer id assume?)

[JBaker122586]

...no ipod comes with a dock or wall charger. (first time buyer id assume?)

My 40 GB 4G iPod came with both.
Granted, that was a few years ago.


And to answer the question, I have absolutely no interest in the iPod touch, so the answer is easy for me.

I'd take an 8GB iPhone over a 128GB iPod touch.

[NT1440]

My 40 GB 4G iPod came with both.
Granted, that was a few years ago.


And to answer the question, I have absolutely no interest in the iPod touch, so the answer is easy for me.

I'd take an 8GB iPhone over a 128GB iPod touch.

oh sry about that, i should have clarified, no current generations come with a dock or wall charger.

[mariokarter]

The headphone button will unfortunately have no effect on an iPod touch.

Thank you.

...no ipod comes with a dock or wall charger. (first time buyer id assume?)

ok, whatever, I'll extend my statement to "I'm hesitant to jump for any ipod because they don't come with the wall charger or dock". I mean to getting comparable accesories to make a touch on par with a iPhone costs another 80 bucks (30 and 50)(granted the dock is universal and has a remote though i suppose).


And like someone just pointed out 4th gen ipods did....

[jmpmntwnty3]

Seeing as I currently have just under 9 GB of music in my iTunes, a 32 GB iPhone will suffice. Hell, a 16 GB iPhone will do me justice lol.

[citron230]

reading how the 32GB might be $699, I don't know if I will fork out that kind of money for it. I might stick with the 16GB, unless the prices are wrong.

[DCBass]

Thank you.

ok, whatever, I'll extend my statement to "I'm hesitant to jump for any ipod because they don't come with the wall charger or dock". I mean to getting comparable accesories to make a touch on par with a iPhone costs another 80 bucks (30 and 50)(granted the dock is universal and has a remote though i suppose).

And like someone just pointed out 4th gen ipods did....

I agree. When Apple stopped including the wall charger and other accessories (starting with the 5th gen I believe), I thought that was a weak move. I don't expect them to throw in a universal dock and component cables... but at least include the wall charger.

Of course, I bought a 5th gen anyway :o, but we had it good with the old iPods... My 2nd Gen iPod came with a firewire cable, wall charger, belt clip case, and a remote! Perhaps we should be thankful they even include the earbuds...

DCBass

[jmpmntwnty3]

reading how the 32GB might be $699, I don't know if I will fork out that kind of money for it. I might stick with the 16GB, unless the prices are wrong.

Where'd you read this?? $700 for a damn phone? That means the 16 gig would be $600, and if they release an 8 gig, $500. That's ri-damn-diculous. I can see $500 for the higher-end model, then $400 for the middle range, and $300 for the low, but who the hell do they expect to shell out $300 short of $1,000 for a fancy phone?

[JBaker122586]

Where'd you read this?? $700 for a damn phone? That means the 16 gig would be $600, and if they release an 8 gig, $500. That's ri-damn-diculous. I can see $500 for the higher-end model, then $400 for the middle range, and $300 for the low, but who the hell do they expect to shell out $300 short of $1,000 for a fancy phone?

It was listed on Page 2 as $500 for 16GB and $700 for 32GB.

[mariokarter]

I agree. When Apple stopped including the wall charger and other accessories (starting with the 5th gen I believe), I thought that was a weak move. I don't expect them to throw in a universal dock and component cables... but at least include the wall charger.

Of course, I bought a 5th gen anyway :o, but we had it good with the old iPods... My 2nd Gen iPod came with a firewire cable, wall charger, belt clip case, and a remote! Perhaps we should be thankful they even include the earbuds...

DCBass

Yeah my 4th gen came with a usb cable, firewire cable, and wall charger. See now that everyone is addicted to ipods apple can get away with out including the accesories. Thats what is good about the iphone though, its a phone so they have to include the wall charger. The earbuds will never go though its part pf apple's image.

[volsfan]

64 ipod touch because ill never want to pay the horrific iphone bill and i have alot of movies

[Muff Bandit]

personally i would go for the iphone. the ipod touch always seemed like a poor mans iphone. however for my entire music collection i refuse to use itunes anyway. takes to much time and looks ugly with out art.

[neven]

I can see $500 for the higher-end model, then $400 for the middle range, and $300 for the low, but who the hell do they expect to shell out $300 short of $1,000 for a fancy phone?

The numerous people who shelled out $600 for a less fancy phone a year ago :)

[mariokarter]

personally i would go for the iphone. the ipod touch always seemed like a poor mans iphone. however for my entire music collection i refuse to use itunes anyway. takes to much time and looks ugly with out art.

but you use ipods? i thought for most people ipods and itunes go hand in hand. i find album art is displayed quite nicely in itunes. you could also use an iphone sim free. hell if it gets subsidized it might even be the same price.

[Mad Mac Maniac]

iphone hands down.

Honestly, I don't really care for the ipod touch much. It's too 'glitzy' for just a music player, and the classic has a much better design for its purpose PLUS allows much more memory. the driving factor for me on the iphone is it's all-in-one factor. the touch doesn't have the phone, camera, or internet access (while away from a hot spot). It's just a silly concept.

32gb is plenty of memory anyways. I mean what is that like 8,000 songs? Why would you ever need more than 8,000 songs at your fingertips?

[Santa Rosa]

Reading through this thread, to which I have also contributed largely, it now seems entirely pointless to carry it on.

Mariokarter posted asking for advice as to what to get, he was then told the various options that would suit best and how to implement them but still wants to do it his useless way as he keeps arguing his point.

Its just plainly pointless you asking and everyone else posting when you have no intention at all to listen to anyone. Many people have made great recommendations but you are just not listening.

This is a thread that should be wastelanded.

[mariokarter]

My decision is anything but final. These are products which haven't even been announced yet. I could easily be swayed to the iphone if it gets a huge carrier subsidy.

[Santa Rosa]

Thats why I'm getting an iPhone.

so I am looking for 32 gig iPhone.

32 GB iPhone would work great for me.

If I had neither, I would go with the 32GB iPhone for the added features over the Touch.

This will be especially true if he rumored iPhone has GPS and 3G.

32gb iPhone for sure. I'd love 64gb, but why carry around a Touch when I'm already carrying around an iPhone?

32 GB iPhone all the way.

Mind if I ask which part of music syncing you're having trouble with? Not trying to be a smartass, but I find iTunes' music syncing options to be plentiful and excellent.

32gig iPhone...

Definitely the iPhone!

a 32GB iPhone is what I'm after.

2 different devices and it depends how much GB you need.
I have about 40 of music, but I could fit my music in 32 gigs.
and I need a new phone. Iphone :D

whatever happens with the touch is fine with me, i really want a 32GB iPhone.
I have my iPod Nano for the gym which only hold 8GB of music which is fine for the gym. the 32GB iphone would be nice for more videos and music on my phone and while traveling.

I do like the camera function of the iPhone. So if the space is not an issue, I'd go for the iPhone.

Some excellent advice:

I have quite a few GB's of music on my computer, but there's no way you can possibly listen to 50GB all the time, can you? I know it's irritating when you want to listen to a certain song/album and realize that's the one you decided NOT to add to your iPod/iPhone but I think that's how it's going to go. I'd take the 32GB iPHone.

32 iPhone.

32GB iphone... enough said

Me too! (for an iPhone)

More good advice:

I have to get (3) iPhones for my family plan, so 32GB is looking good! I use smartlists and rotate my smartlists and my movies on a regular basis.

iPhone 32Gb I'll use the phone and text part more.

iPhone quite easily

I mean, I love the phone just for being a phone and the iPod makes it even better

More good advice which you obviously haven't bothered to read

Hey mariokarter,

I think you're making this harder on yourself than you need to. Checking and un-checking songs is certainly a pain, but you don't have to manage your music like that.

I'm in a similar situation, with a 30gb iPod and a 60gb music collection. The way I roll is to have only certain smart playlists sync to the iPod. These include:

- 3+ Stars
- Must Have Artists ("artist" contains "___")
- Must Have Albums ("album" contains "____")
- Unrated Random (limited to 4000 songs)

That way, I always have the music I always want, plus a whole bevy of songs in case I feel like playing my whole library on random. The unrated random playlist refreshes everytime I sync my iPod. Also, I never have to worry about checking and unchecking songs.

This may not work best for you, but it's worked out pretty well for me. Hope this helps.

As for the general question you asked at the beginning, I'd like the 64BG touch. I have no desire to pay $20 / mo for the internet. Though, if I could do a pay-as-you-go data plan, and only add it to the iPhone for a particular period (say, on vacation), then I would definitely get the iPhone.

Cheers,
DCBass

More good advice again obviously ignored:

DCBass answered your music syncing question perfectly. It's all about playlists, especially smart ones. For me, it's *better* than syncing my whole library - after a few minutes of playlist-setting, I can now shuffle all the music on my iPhone and not run into audiobooks, long classical pieces, stand-up comedy, etc.

The headphone button will unfortunately have no effect on an iPod touch.

My 40 GB 4G iPod came with both.
Granted, that was a few years ago.

And to answer the question, I have absolutely no interest in the iPod touch, so the answer is easy for me.

Thats a fairly definitive answer staring you right in the face:

I'd take an 8GB iPhone over a 128GB iPod touch.

Seeing as I currently have just under 9 GB of music in my iTunes, a 32 GB iPhone will suffice. Hell, a 16 GB iPhone will do me justice lol.

personally i would go for the iphone. the ipod touch always seemed like a poor mans iphone. however for my entire music collection i refuse to use itunes anyway. takes to much time and looks ugly with out art.

iphone hands down.

Honestly, I don't really care for the ipod touch much. It's too 'glitzy' for just a music player, and the classic has a much better design for its purpose PLUS allows much more memory. <-- What I suggested the driving factor for me on the iphone is it's all-in-one factor. the touch doesn't have the phone, camera, or internet access (while away from a hot spot). It's just a silly concept.

32gb is plenty of memory anyways. I mean what is that like 8,000 songs? Why would you ever need more than 8,000 songs at your fingertips?

Then after all that help, you basically come out with these two entirely confused replies. Ask yourself what was the point in asking if you had no intention to listen to anything anyone said. Its just ridiculous.

thanks for the replies guys. I'll likely end up with the touch, the music syncing thing just bugs me I suppose.

My decision is anything but final. These are products which haven't even been announced yet. I could easily be swayed to the iphone if it gets a huge carrier subsidy.

Once again I say to the wasteland!!!!

[DiamondMac]

Santa, are the cliff notes available to that post?

[ntrigue]

I will give both the a) one device phone and music answer and b) there are no circumstances where I must have more than 20GB of my library in my pocket.

[a456]

If the PAYG rumours are true then I'm walking into the Regent Street store and getting the 32GB iPhone asap.

[Santa Rosa]

If the PAYG rumours are true then I'm walking into the Regent Street store and getting the 32GB iPhone asap.

Nice one!! I would be right with you if I was anywhere near London, and could afford the 32GB lol.

Im thinking its gonna be expensive, I will have to have serious talks with the bank manager ;)

Santa, are the cliff notes available to that post?

Have been working on them ever since I posted, its been difficult though :)

[phuong]

how much would 64GB-worth-of-legally-bought-music cost?