Another Black Back iPhone Photo

[arn]

Submitted by Natbyte

[gloss]

Looks like an empty shell. A couple of holes for ports, but no visible hardware. Seems pretty legit-looking, though, as far as a husk goes.

[edesignuk]

^ I think it's only claiming to be a back casing.

[gloss]

^ I think it's only claiming to be a back casing.

Well there you go. :)

[bacaramac]

Anyone verify the FCC ID? Finally a high quality picture (real or fake). I hope this is it as I really like the black.

[myusername]

I call fake and here's why.

Show me an major Apple product without the serial number etched or visable somewhere. The back says

Designed by Apple in California Assembled in China
Model Number XXXXX FCC ID XXX

There's no serial number, how can I get the iPhone serviced if the Genius Bar can't see the serial number. If my computer won't boot there is a sticker somewhere, every iPod has had their serial number etched on the outside and the original iPhone has it etched too.

-r

[edesignuk]

^ pre-production model perhaps, it is just a casing remember.

[gloss]

Anyone verify the FCC ID? Finally a high quality picture (real or fake). I hope this is it as I really like the black.

Nothing came up on Google or the FCC site, which makes sense since any paperwork submitted is probably under embargo until the reveal.

[mogzieee]

Finally something good quality....

That hole though for the camera looks like a hole... funnily enough. My suspicions are that this is a casing.

Edit: Having zoomed in on the photo, we can deduct that the man who took the photo lives in somewhat of a modern house... with perhaps a bar in the reflection...? We can clearly see his type of digital camera... surely the company has a list of all owners of that camera...? And the man looks to have a bald head, perhaps wearing glasses (zoom really up close - look behind the back of the camera, top right of the 8GB sign.

With these details we must be able to track him down...? Somehow...?

[bacaramac]

I call fake and here's why.

Show me an major Apple product without the serial number etched or visable somewhere. The back says

Designed by Apple in California Assembled in China
Model Number XXXXX FCC ID XXX

There's no serial number, how can I get the iPhone serviced if the Genius Bar can't see the serial number. If my computer won't boot there is a sticker somewhere, every iPod has had their serial number etched on the outside and the original iPhone has it etched too.

-r

Well if this is a just the back case, I would think there would be no serial number. Also, I remember seeing that Apple creates very high quality designs/mock-ups.

[big_malk]

I call fake and here's why.

Show me an major Apple product without the serial number etched or visable somewhere. The back says

Designed by Apple in California Assembled in China
Model Number XXXXX FCC ID XXX

There's no serial number, how can I get the iPhone serviced if the Genius Bar can't see the serial number. If my computer won't boot there is a sticker somewhere, every iPod has had their serial number etched on the outside and the original iPhone has it etched too.

-r

You have a point, but if it is just an empty shell and not a production model it wouldn't have a serial number? Although a pretend serial number or a placeholder for one would be likely i suppose, but who knows!

[r6girl]

^ yes, pre-production model is realistic. it's not a product that's going into circulation since it's made for design verification or test reasons, so it doesn't need to be registered in the same way a final product sold to the public would be...

[bitslap47]

Nothing came up on Google or the FCC site, which makes sense since any paperwork submitted is probably under embargo until the reveal.

It is the same id as the current phone, but with a place holder (x) in the last few positions. Same for model number.

8GB is 1203, I assume the 16 is 1204, so the 3g models could be 05 and 06 respectively.

[gloss]

It is the same id as the current phone, but with a place holder (x) in the last few positions. Same for model number.

8GB is 1203, I assume the 16 is 1204, so the 3g models could be 05 and 06 respectively.

Ah, thank you. Makes sense, if it's a mockup.

[N10248]

The latest Apple product on the fcc site is the new airport express & time capsule...

the numbering seems accurate though

[SFStateStudent]

Submitted by Natbyte

Gawd, I recognize that desk and that fake woodgrain desktop! That's Steve's house!!! LOL :p

[Chris Bangle]

Its NOT plastic, looks like glass

[guitarman777]

Finally something good quality....

Edit: Having zoomed in on the photo, we can deduct that the man who took the photo lives in somewhat of a modern house... with perhaps a bar in the reflection...? We can clearly see his type of digital camera... surely the company has a list of all owners of that camera...? And the man looks to have a bald head, perhaps wearing glasses (zoom really up close - look behind the back of the camera, top right of the 8GB sign.

With these details we must be able to track him down...? Somehow...?

IT'S STEVE JOBS HIMSELF!!!

:rolleyes:

[toober1]

look at the edges, closely...follow the edges arount to the top left now..now to the top center...the depth fromthe case to the say molding is way diff from the left to the top part...with that angle and perspective you would imagine it to be slimmer or smaller at the top...no?

its a good try though and photoshop...case or not, still fake. i call bs!

[Diode]

Anyone verify the FCC ID? Finally a high quality picture (real or fake). I hope this is it as I really like the black.

It's a fake FCC ID because the last two numbers are X's meaning they either haven't assigned one or the photo's fake.

The last two digits of the product number are X's as well ... place holder I bet.

I am going with the former.

Although the top and bottom edge do look out of alignment....

[gloss]

look at the edges, closely...follow the edges arount to the top left now..now to the top center...the depth fromthe case to the say molding is way diff from the left to the top part...with that angle and perspective you would imagine it to be slimmer or smaller at the top...no?

its a good try though and photoshop...case or not, still fake. i call bs!

It's called 'barrel distortion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_distortion)'.

[heyp]

Its NOT plastic, looks like glass

how can you make that assessment? i'd like for it not to be plastic but how can you tell based on this photo?

6 days can't go by fast enough

[hotsauce3868]

There are two people in the reflection from the case. So obviously this was not a quick impulsive not get caught photo taken. The guy also taking the picture is wearing a dress shirt and a tie. Important?

Can anyone make out the image in the bottom right?

[kornyboy]

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I still don't like the black or white images so I'm hoping this is just a case. At any rate we will know soon enough.

[bitslap47]

There is a partial print half way up the left hand side. I suppose somebody could run the print.

[Santa Rosa]

A picture of the front as well would have been nice, just out of curiosity :rolleyes:

[KindredMAC]

8GB is my smoking gun for it being fake.
Most rumors are pointing towards 16/32 for the next version.

[bitslap47]

A picture of the front as well would have been nice, just out of curiosity :rolleyes:

Maybe there is no front. The screen/electronics most likely press in flush into the case back which could explain thinner without significantly reducing the internal volume for components to lie in.

[The General]

Well, the last two digits of the model number and FCC ID are XX, as if the real numbers will be there when it is released for real.

My iPhone:
Model No.: A1203
FCC ID: BCGA1203

This supposed 3G iPhone case:
Model No.: A12XX
FCC ID: BCGA12XX

This is the most believable picture I've seen yet, but again, this could be something they designed and then decided against. It's not a case for the iPhone, because cases don't have Apple model numbers or FCC IDs on them.

8GB is my smoking gun for it being fake.
Most rumors are pointing towards 16/32 for the next version.

Why? They still make an 8GB iPod Touch. Maybe they'll have an 8GB, 16GB and a 32GB iPhone. You never know. I hope they have a 160GB iPod Touch. That would be an epic win.

[Donz0r]

There are two people in the reflection from the case. So obviously this was not a quick impulsive not get caught photo taken. The guy also taking the picture is wearing a dress shirt and a tie. Important?

Can anyone make out the image in the bottom right?


The background is ceiling tiles, and the silver part in the bottom right is a light, on the ceiling. not very exciting

[gloss]

8GB is my smoking gun for it being fake.
Most rumors are pointing towards 16/32 for the next version.

Depends how hefty the internal redesign is. If they're still stuck with a single chip then 8/16/32 might be more likely, with 32GB slotting in to a $599 berth.

[gloss]

It's not a case for the iPhone, because cases don't have Apple model numbers or FCC IDs on them.


By case they mean 'shell' - it's the actual chassis. It could easily be a mockup, with FCC information, etc put there to reflect eventual appearance.

[born4sky]

Finally something good quality....

That hole though for the camera looks like a hole... funnily enough. My suspicions are that this is a casing.

Edit: Having zoomed in on the photo, we can deduct that the man who took the photo lives in somewhat of a modern house... with perhaps a bar in the reflection...? We can clearly see his type of digital camera... surely the company has a list of all owners of that camera...? And the man looks to have a bald head, perhaps wearing glasses (zoom really up close - look behind the back of the camera, top right of the 8GB sign.

With these details we must be able to track him down...? Somehow...?

o $#1t it's Steve Jobs Him Self .....

[frijole]

its just another picture of everyone's favorite rumor-inducing third party back case, and we've been through this before.

http://gizmodo.com/384356/glossy-black-iphone-3g-is-just-a-third+party-case

[Fibonacci]

Finally something good quality....

That hole though for the camera looks like a hole... funnily enough. My suspicions are that this is a casing.

Edit: Having zoomed in on the photo, we can deduct that the man who took the photo lives in somewhat of a modern house... with perhaps a bar in the reflection...? We can clearly see his type of digital camera... surely the company has a list of all owners of that camera...? And the man looks to have a bald head, perhaps wearing glasses (zoom really up close - look behind the back of the camera, top right of the 8GB sign.

With these details we must be able to track him down...? Somehow...?

I think most of the reflection is ceiling grid. I have doubts about a bar suspended in the ceiling grid.

Does anyone else think that the surface may be a charcoal chrome? It doesn't look like black plastic, and it doesn't seem to reflect well enough to be chrome.

If this isn't a Jobs-leaked photo, why the 8 GB? How about this...the rumored thinner model is 16 GB and 32 GB and has a form factor similar to the existing model. This chubbier-middle Airbook-esque model at 8 GB is the rumored $200 model.

Talk amongst yourselves.

[H$R]

now if it only said "32 GB" instead of 8. that would have been something!

[tbazani]

Looks damn fake. The iPhone print and FCC ID print are tilt.
horrible...

[Santa Rosa]

Maybe there is no front. The screen/electronics most likely press in flush into the case back which could explain thinner without significantly reducing the internal volume for components to lie in.

Maybe there is no front but who cares. A picture of the front would be nice just out of curiosity if you get my drift. If its of nothing it doesnt really matter, it would be just nice to see.

[H$R]

I hope they have a 160GB iPod Touch. That would be an epic win.

That's the device I was imaging 2 years ago! But now, I would be satisfied with an 32 GB iPhone.

[SFStateStudent]

There is a partial print half way up the left hand side. I suppose somebody could run the print.

Yep, I'm on it! Running that latent print through NCIC, Interpol, and The AFIS (Automated Fingerprint Identification System) purchased through ASSET SEIZED FUNDS! Comes back as an anonymous Apple CEO with "priors" on giving Keynotes a couple times a year. LOL :eek:

[GERGreg427]

Its to hard to call this real because that is not the updated apple logo. The new logo has that reflection on it, this does not. It is very possible that this was a mockup for the original 2.5 iphone and is beeing shown now to throw us off. Besides, don't you think that the new iphone model number would be 22xx instead of 12xx?

[krye]

Of course it's just the shell. Apple isn't going to send the real thing to case and accessory manufactures. And without FCC approval it would also be illegal to do so. They send these shells to select manufacturers so that they can make products and have them ready are available and on Apple Store shelves at launch time. I think this is legit. Since it is not a production unit, it will not have a serial number.

[Arran]

Yeah, I'll go with the theory it's a 3rd party case. Looking at the full-sized image, there's a (manufacturing) surface flaw just below the camera hole. That would be acceptable for a cheap, 3rd party, moulded cover for a 1G iphone, but I can't see Apple tolerating that sort of imperfect finish.

To the poster above: Nice catch on the background being ceiling tiles and a (fluorescent?) light fitting. I guess if the 'phone' is lying on a horizontal table, then it's going to reflect - mostly - the ceiling. Yes?

[rishi13]

I call fake and here's why.

Show me an major Apple product without the serial number etched or visable somewhere. The back says

Designed by Apple in California Assembled in China
Model Number XXXXX FCC ID XXX

There's no serial number, how can I get the iPhone serviced if the Genius Bar can't see the serial number. If my computer won't boot there is a sticker somewhere, every iPod has had their serial number etched on the outside and the original iPhone has it etched too.

-r

My SR Macbook Pro does not have a serial number etched into it. It is only visible if you remove the battery.

[gloss]

My SR Macbook Pro does not have a serial number etched into it. It is only visible if you remove the battery.

iPods and iPhones don't have removable batteries, so the S/N has always been located on the back of the device.

[radiogod69]

either

A. its the casing prototype for the 3g iPhone or

B. its a new plastic hardshell developed by a 3rd
party.

I am thinking B, I own a 5th gen ipod and it has
the serial number on the back, the xx at the end
tells me that they either photo shopped it or made
it as a mock up design.

[Arran]

There is a partial print half way up the left hand side. I suppose somebody could run the print.

Wow, I just noticed there's a clear image of the guy's chin, and lips below the camera lens. Damn, if he was smiling, we could run his dental records too :D

[wildcardd]

Where's my "Official CSI UV Blacklight"

I never have one when I need it.

[SFStateStudent]

Wow, I just noticed there's a clear image of the guy's chin, and lips below the camera lens. Damn, if he was smiling, we could run his dental records too :D

I'm thinking he would have to be dead, right? :eek:

[mrrydogg]

I think the logo is fake. Photoshopped on. When zooming in the logo, it has completely different pixelation than the rest of the image. A sign to me that it has been pasted on.

I call BS.

[JohnnyQuest]

I originally thought that the black and white backed iPhones would be made of a material similar to that of a Mighty Mouse, or Macbook. But this back is something different. It looks tougher and more durable to scratches. If this is actually the prototype of the new iPhone backside, I'll be very pleased.

[RasaFrasa]

Here guys, I found the proof you needed.

Sorry to spoil your fun:

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/03/another-black-back-iphone-photo/

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/25/3g-iphone-to-include-gps-be-only-slightly-thicker/

Or straight from the source (buy now for $0.00?)
http://www.appleowner.com/goods.php?id=156

They're all the same. It's just a case.

[Zadillo]

My SR Macbook Pro does not have a serial number etched into it. It is only visible if you remove the battery.

That's still visible; the fact that it is covered by the battery doesn't mean anything. The point is that it's there.

[NightCastle]

Finally something good quality....
And the man looks to have a bald head, perhaps wearing glasses (zoom really up close - look behind the back of the camera, top right of the 8GB sign.


I think that neither of the people in the reflections are bald. I think the skin seen above the camera is his finger. Also, if you look between the thumb and forefinger of the guy holding the camera (on the left of the camera), it looks like dark hair and the person at the very top may have a receeding hairline, but clearly has a dark edge around his or her head.

If the guy taking the picture has a tie on, then I don't think it is Jobs. Too conformist for his liking.

[txr0ckabilly]

looks like a dust magnet

[thaitillidie]

If true, there is no greater evidence supporting the idea that Apple is aiming to mass produce this thing on a grandiose scale and reach every single nook 'n freakin' cranny in the known universe.

Also, if true, Apple has clearly made the unfortunate decision to abandon its loyal, faithful fanbase who demand and expect the finest in craftsmanship and materials (ahem ahem aluminum cough metal cough cough glass etc etc etc) and instead chose a material befitting of the masses: cheap-looking, crackable azz plastic!! Unfreakin'believable.

I can't speak for the rest of you Apple elitists out there but I, personally, won't let the precious, flawless, well-bred skin of my perfectly manicured hands and fingers and sensitive cute lil photogenic earlobes go anywhere near plastic...ugh...ewww...pfft...$&!@$!!!

No thank you, kind sirs, but I'll stick with my elegant-looking 8GB v.1 iPhone.

[earnjam]

Where's my "Official CSI UV Blacklight"

I never have one when I need it.

What are yoooou checking for? :p

I'm thinking he would have to be dead, right? :eek:

You don't have to be dead to have dental records. If you've gone to the dentist and had x-rays, you have dental records. That's just usually when they check when there's not much left to identify with.

[MrT8064]

Here guys, I found the proof you needed.

Sorry to spoil your fun:

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/03/another-black-back-iphone-photo/

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/25/3g-iphone-to-include-gps-be-only-slightly-thicker/

Or straight from the source (buy now for $0.00?)
http://www.appleowner.com/goods.php?id=156

They're all the same. It's just a case.

I agree with you,

the latest one doesnt even seem to be attached to the iPhone, as the silver camera is not visible...

i would be very disappointed if the G3 iPhone looked like this.
I love the idea of 100% glass!!

[Arran]

I'm thinking he would have to be dead, right? :eek:

Well, if this is a big stinkin fake, he'll likely wish he was when the intertube hordes figure out his identity ;)

Hey, anything back on the prints yet? :D

[txr0ckabilly]

I think that neither of the people in the reflections are bald. I think the skin seen above the camera is his finger. Also, if you look between the thumb and forefinger of the guy holding the camera (on the left of the camera), it looks like dark hair and the person at the very top may have a receeding hairline, but clearly has a dark edge around his or her head.

If the guy taking the picture has a tie on, then I don't think it is Jobs. Too conformist for his liking.


i don't see a tie, and they both look asian (or whatever PC term I'm s'posed to use) to me.

[gloss]

I can't speak for the rest of you Apple elitists out there but I, personally, won't let the precious, flawless, well-bred skin of my perfectly manicured hands and fingers and sensitive cute lil photogenic earlobes go anywhere near plastic...ugh...ewww...pfft...$&!@$!!!


Quote of the day.

Also, it could be zirconia. You never know!

[SFStateStudent]

Or straight from the source (buy now for $0.00?)
http://www.appleowner.com/goods.php?id=156They're all the same. It's just a case.

How many can I buy for $0.00? :p

[howirocks]

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Finally something good quality....

That hole though for the camera looks like a hole... funnily enough. My suspicions are that this is a casing.

Edit: Having zoomed in on the photo, we can deduct that the man who took the photo lives in somewhat of a modern house... with perhaps a bar in the reflection...? We can clearly see his type of digital camera... surely the company has a list of all owners of that camera...? And the man looks to have a bald head, perhaps wearing glasses (zoom really up close - look behind the back of the camera, top right of the 8GB sign.

With these details we must be able to track him down...? Somehow...?

Hmm... Bald head, glasses, nice house... Its Steve Jobs!! Ha ha

[RasaFrasa]

How many can I buy for $0.00? :p

Let's grab as many as possible and hand them out to all the users here and we can pretend we have the new magical 3G iPhone in all the "leaked" pictures. :D

[toomuchmac]

Maybe this was one of those planted-to-be-misleading shots.

I mean, yeah, open it in CS3 and zoom way in. The jpg compression (easily spotted on all black) is way different on the "case" than on the apple logo and, as mentioned already, the pixelation (edges) of the apple logo are totally inconsistent as if it was added in to an other all black shell.

Thanks for the nice, big image...much easier to spot the "fake."

[nakile]

I get a kick out of how all these pictures never show the front of the device. :rolleyes:

This was proven to be a 3rd party case a month ago. It's not the new iPhone.

[mciarlo]

You can tell this image is just the casing because the wood grain is visible in the camera hole. The text and Apple logo have NOT been added as the blue hue visible in the top right reflection of the case matches the colored distortion around the logo and text. The pixelation is also a match as are the reflections through the logo and bottom text (this includes the shadowing).

[rva1]

Anyone verify the FCC ID? Finally a high quality picture (real or fake). I hope this is it as I really like the black.I want mine in Canyon Red!

[SFStateStudent]

What are yoooou checking for? :p You don't have to be dead to have dental records. If you've gone to the dentist and had x-rays, you have dental records. That's just usually when they check when there's not much left to identify with.

It's just that access to those dental records, many times the victim is dead or missing, with the exception being missing children of course. And yes, you're correct, it's kinda' the last resort for means of identification.

[SFStateStudent]

Let's grab as many as possible and hand them out to all the users here and we can pretend we have the new magical 3G iPhone in all the "leaked" pictures. :D

I'm hoping shipping is free on 1,000,000 pieces that I just ordered. :eek:

[Adeian]

This is the image for iPhone accessories on the AT&T site. Could be the new iPhone2.

iPhone2 (http://www.phdavis.com/Blog/tabid/37/EntryID/227/Default.aspx) Sorry about the link.

[Chris748R]

Some observations:

#1 There are two people in this photo, the one taking the photo and another person, perhaps on the other side of the table. You can see the second person’s reflection on the top of the phone near the camera hole. This person has no camera and the radius of the phone’s edges distorts their face.

#2 The person with the camera is not bald, the two skin colored lumps on the reflection are only the photo takers index fingers. If you look between their thumb and index finger next to the camera you will see their hair line on the right side of their face.

[TheSlush]

its just another picture of everyone's favorite rumor-inducing third party back case, and we've been through this before.

http://gizmodo.com/384356/glossy-black-iphone-3g-is-just-a-third+party-case

And this is further supported by the fact that this Apple logo is slightly recessed into the surface. Apple has better quality production methods: they can make the logo perfectly flush with the surface (see current iPhone!).

I swear, I have never seen so many faked-photo rumors about an Apple product where the fakes look SO MUCH UGLIER than the current version of the product! C'mon, you fakers and Photoshoppers, if you're going to the trouble of faking a product, at least IMPRESS ME. I mean, give Apple a challenge at least, not a reason to double over in laughter.

Fatter, rounder iPhones?... HA!! Amateurs. :rolleyes:

[earnjam]

This is the image for iPhone accessories on the AT&T site. Could be the new iPhone2.

iPhone2 (http://www.phdavis.com/Blog/tabid/37/EntryID/227/Default.aspx) Sorry about the link.

Show us a link to the ATT site where this is. I looked under iPhone accessories and saw this nowhere. Only place I could find this image as that blog you linked to.

[brockumpodness]

This is either someone's case mockup or some such item, or it is a pic of a mockup that Apple slipped in to the media so that people would be surprised at what the *real* 3G will look like. Apple has done it in the past, why not do it with the 3G? I don't think it's the real thing though -This is what it comes down to:

Apple is *far too secure in how they handle their new products! Steve was the only one who saw the first complete iPhone, obviously the public would never see the 3G iPhone a week before release!?! Get Real.

[TheSlush]

This is the image for iPhone accessories on the AT&T site. Could be the new iPhone2.

iPhone2 (http://www.phdavis.com/Blog/tabid/37/EntryID/227/Default.aspx) Sorry about the link.

No no no. That's an image of the "protective gel" skin accessory. It seems they currently only offer it in black.

[earnjam]

Steve was the only one who saw the first complete iPhone

Other than a whole slew of assembly line workers in China, probably several hardware designers at Apple and whomever else was in the room with him when he first opened the box...

That is, unless he cut off an ear and it turned into the iPhone...:rolleyes:

I think we give him a little too much credit sometimes.

[rml4uk]

To begin this post, let me say that I'm not an expert on any of this, but it seems that a little common knowledge is enough to make an educated decision about this picture. To the person who just posted about a shot of the phone they found on the AT&T website - that is a picture of a current gen iPhone in a 3rd party case. Do a Google image search for "silicon iphone case" and you will see several similar cases. Now, for all you people who are saying "you can tell the logo on the back is photoshopped on because the pixels on the edge are different than the rest of the pixels in the image", you must not know anything about digital photography. I'm not saying I'm an expert, but I do have a little more than basic knowledge. Any digital camera, even some of the highest end DSLRs will show color fringing on the borders of high contrast objects (such as black on white, like in the picture). This is what is causing the discoloration/odd pixelation around the apple logo. For everyone that says this is just a 3rd party case for the current iPhone - I don't know about you, but the back of my iPhone does not have the curvature towards the edges that this case is showing. Any manufacturer that would create a case like this is an idiot, because no one is going to buy a rigid case that doesn't fit the phone. Lastly, for the person(s) who said that this is fake because the logo on the case isn't the new logo with the shadow/glossy look on it - I hope you're joking. Apple only uses that logo for advertising. They don't put it on their products. Ok. I'm through, and I call real on this. Can't wait til Monday.

[carve]

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glad I bought the first gen

[zzebi]

It looks very much like a 1st generation iPhone mock-up. We don't know when the picture was taken. The JPEG header does not have any relevant info about the exposure, the camera, or the date. It might as well be the one Apple used for the first generation.

BTW, the camera looks like a HP Photosmart M417 (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41R3R6NX9ML._SS500_.jpg) which was introduced in 2005. The age of the camera might suggest that the photo was taken several (more than one) years ago.

[bretm]

Looks like Black Chrome to me. Not plastic. Not glass.

[bretm]

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glad I bought the first gen

Because you enjoy the easily scratched and nicked flat silver paint and cheap piece of plastic backing? Please elaborate.

[gloss]

Because you enjoy the easily scratched and nicked flat silver paint and cheap piece of plastic backing? Please elaborate.

Fight! Fight! Fight!

[Virgil-TB2]

either

A. its the casing prototype for the 3g iPhone or

B. its a new plastic hardshell developed by a 3rd
party.

I am thinking B, I own a 5th gen ipod and it has
the serial number on the back, the xx at the end
tells me that they either photo shopped it or made
it as a mock up design.It's B. :)

This thing is a great deal thinner than all the photos that we have seen so far. All the pics of the white iPhone case that was presumably sent around to manufacturers of accessories show the material to be thick, like 3 or 4 mm, at least.

This, on the other hand, is thin as paper and considering the surface appearance cannot be anything other than an extremely thin plastic shell. It's still possible that Apple will use a plastic shell and not the ceramic (as implied by the thick shell pictures we have seen), but it's unlikely that they would use a flimsy article like this. It would make more sense to stick to the aluminium if they need it that thin.

Coupled with the fact that (further up in the thread) someone has posted a picture of a 3rd party plastic cover accessory that is identical in appearance to this item and I think it's unlikely that this is anything other than that.

Two guys, (maybe even from this forum), ordered a plastic shell case from the Taiwanese company in question and posted a pic of it here for a laugh is all.

All I can tell from the picture is that they are both forty-ish and one looks asian, but knowing how hoaxers work, I would bet both of them are on this thread right now! :)

[Van Wildonher]

To begin this post, let me say that I'm not an expert on any of this, but it seems that a little common knowledge is enough to make an educated decision about this picture. To the person who just posted about a shot of the phone they found on the AT&T website - that is a picture of a current gen iPhone in a 3rd party case. Do a Google image search for "silicon iphone case" and you will see several similar cases. Now, for all you people who are saying "you can tell the logo on the back is photoshopped on because the pixels on the edge are different than the rest of the pixels in the image", you must not know anything about digital photography. I'm not saying I'm an expert, but I do have a little more than basic knowledge. Any digital camera, even some of the highest end DSLRs will show color fringing on the borders of high contrast objects (such as black on white, like in the picture). This is what is causing the discoloration/odd pixelation around the apple logo. For everyone that says this is just a 3rd party case for the current iPhone - I don't know about you, but the back of my iPhone does not have the curvature towards the edges that this case is showing. Any manufacturer that would create a case like this is an idiot, because no one is going to buy a rigid case that doesn't fit the phone. Lastly, for the person(s) who said that this is fake because the logo on the case isn't the new logo with the shadow/glossy look on it - I hope you're joking. Apple only uses that logo for advertising. They don't put it on their products. Ok. I'm through, and I call real on this. Can't wait til Monday.

Looks a hell of a lot like this if you ask me... http://gizmodo.com/384356/glossy-black-iphone-3g-is-just-a-third+party-case

[bretm]

Looks a hell of a lot like this if you ask me... http://gizmodo.com/384356/glossy-black-iphone-3g-is-just-a-third+party-case

When is the last time Apple allowed their logo to be put on ANYTHING 3rd party? Seems like it wouild be an Apple designed case if anything. Plus who cares. If it's shaped to fit the 3G, then that's pretty close to the shape of the 3G.

[bretm]

Am I the only one that saw a face at the TOP edge of the phone. It actually seems to have caught the photographer from a different angle so you can see his face.

Here's my levels adjusted and distortion adjusted face from the phone...

[Zadillo]

When is the last time Apple allowed their logo to be put on ANYTHING 3rd party? Seems like it wouild be an Apple designed case if anything. Plus who cares. If it's shaped to fit the 3G, then that's pretty close to the shape of the 3G.

You're assuming that it's authorized. Also, it seems like this isn't so much a case as it is designed to be a replacement back panel.

[bretm]

You're assuming that it's authorized. Also, it seems like this isn't so much a case as it is designed to be a replacement back panel.

Duplicate unauthorized back panel. Ok. Then it would look even more like the actual 3G. Presumably exactly. At least in shape.

[thaitillidie]

I've said it before. I'm saying it again now (despite it being off-topic to the subject at hand). And I'm going to continue saying it -- at least until I get a fellow poster to join my rebel alliance hehehe -- but this time I'm issuing a firm warning to Apple:

I WILL NOT ALLOW MYSELF TO BE CURSED WITH THE DREADED MOTO RAZR STIGMATA ('ccept this time it'll be referred to as the iPhone stigmata. Duh!).

I will not walk around with the same freakin' phone that everybody else has!! Apple, you'd better listen and you betta listen good: put the entry level price point of iPhone v.2 WELL outside the financial reach of the common man or else!!

Picture this nightmare scenario: you're a highly paid businessman waiting for your plane in the airport for a trip to Hong Kong to seal a multi-million dollar deal when, as you're sitting in the ticketing area checking your corporate email on 3G iPhone v.2, you glance across and in the seat opposite you is an acne-faced pre-teen playing Pac Man (r u ready for this? hold your breathe, here we go)...ON THE SAME FREAKIN' PHONE THAT YOU HAVE!!!

Arrrrrrrrrrgh!!!!!!!!!!

'Nuff said.

[jonny]

Am I the only one that saw a face at the TOP edge of the phone. It actually seems to have caught the photographer from a different angle so you can see his face.

Here's my levels adjusted and distortion adjusted face from the phone...

good work. he's a husky fella isn't he?

[neven]

but this time I'm issuing a firm warning to Apple:

I will not walk around with the same freakin' phone that everybody else has!! Apple, you'd better listen and you betta listen good: put the entry level price point of iPhone v.2 WELL outside the financial reach of the common man or else!!


Dear thaitillidie,

Please don't be angry with us. We work so hard to make you happy. We promise we'll change... just give us one more chance. We love you, baby.

-Apple Inc.

[madmaxmedia]

Picture this nightmare scenario: you're a highly paid businessman waiting for your plane in the airport for a trip to Hong Kong to seal a multi-million dollar deal when, as you're sitting in the ticketing area checking your corporate email on 3G iPhone v.2, you glance across and in the seat opposite you is an acne-faced pre-teen playing Pac Man (r u ready for this? hold your breathe, here we go)...ON THE SAME FREAKIN' PHONE THAT YOU HAVE!!!

Arrrrrrrrrrgh!!!!!!!!!!

'Nuff said.

Who cares? You're still highly paid, and he's not. He's playing PacMan while you're using the 3G to check your profits on your oil futures.

[stagi]

I hope its fake don't really like the look, but I didn't like the photos of the "fat nano" and once I saw them in person really like it.

[bretm]

good work. he's a husky fella isn't he?

Could just be the distortion. I'm sure we could get the folks at CSI to pull a detailed image of the room from the reflection in his eyes. All H has to do is say... "can you zoom in on his eyes?" and bam, there it is. :)

If you mess with the face at the bottom, it clearly is wearing a turtleneck with a white stripe or something on the side of the turtleneck. Maybe one is Jobs and the other is Woz (the husky one).

[gloss]

good work. he's a husky fella isn't he?

Husky = Asian?

[Fibonacci]

Picture this nightmare scenario: you're a highly paid businessman waiting for your plane in the airport for a trip to Hong Kong to seal a multi-million dollar deal when, as you're sitting in the ticketing area checking your corporate email on 3G iPhone v.2, you glance across and in the seat opposite you is an acne-faced pre-teen playing Pac Man (r u ready for this? hold your breathe, here we go)...ON THE SAME FREAKIN' PHONE THAT YOU HAVE!!!

Arrrrrrrrrrgh!!!!!!!!!!

'Nuff said.

Agreed! I am betting that the $200 is the AT&T DISCOUNT for new subscribers; NOT the actual price. $999 - $200 = $799 for 3G 32 GB.

[neven]

Husky = Asian?

Umm... what? Husky = large. Big. Greater-than-average weight.

[mrrydogg]

To begin this post, let me say that I'm not an expert on any of this, but it seems that a little common knowledge is enough to make an educated decision about this picture. To the person who just posted about a shot of the phone they found on the AT&T website - that is a picture of a current gen iPhone in a 3rd party case. Do a Google image search for "silicon iphone case" and you will see several similar cases. Now, for all you people who are saying "you can tell the logo on the back is photoshopped on because the pixels on the edge are different than the rest of the pixels in the image", you must not know anything about digital photography. I'm not saying I'm an expert, but I do have a little more than basic knowledge. Any digital camera, even some of the highest end DSLRs will show color fringing on the borders of high contrast objects (such as black on white, like in the picture). This is what is causing the discoloration/odd pixelation around the apple logo. For everyone that says this is just a 3rd party case for the current iPhone - I don't know about you, but the back of my iPhone does not have the curvature towards the edges that this case is showing. Any manufacturer that would create a case like this is an idiot, because no one is going to buy a rigid case that doesn't fit the phone. Lastly, for the person(s) who said that this is fake because the logo on the case isn't the new logo with the shadow/glossy look on it - I hope you're joking. Apple only uses that logo for advertising. They don't put it on their products. Ok. I'm through, and I call real on this. Can't wait til Monday.

Well you got one thing right......you are NOT an expert.

[gloss]

Umm... what? Husky = large. Big. Greater-than-average weight.

Looks like a typical Chinese-Japanese-Korean facial structure. Just broad-faced, not particularly overweight.

[earnjam]

Agreed! I am betting that the $200 is the AT&T DISCOUNT for new subscribers; NOT the actual price. $999 - $200 = $799 for 3G 32 GB.

They won't have a $1000 phone.

[Walter P Henson]

I've said it before. I'm saying it again now (despite it being off-topic to the subject at hand). And I'm going to continue saying it -- at least until I get a fellow poster to join my rebel alliance hehehe -- but this time I'm issuing a firm warning to Apple:

I WILL NOT ALLOW MYSELF TO BE CURSED WITH THE DREADED MOTO RAZR STIGMATA ('ccept this time it'll be referred to as the iPhone stigmata. Duh!).

I will not walk around with the same freakin' phone that everybody else has!! Apple, you'd better listen and you betta listen good: put the entry level price point of iPhone v.2 WELL outside the financial reach of the common man or else!!

Picture this nightmare scenario: you're a highly paid businessman waiting for your plane in the airport for a trip to Hong Kong to seal a multi-million dollar deal when, as you're sitting in the ticketing area checking your corporate email on 3G iPhone v.2, you glance across and in the seat opposite you is an acne-faced pre-teen playing Pac Man (r u ready for this? hold your breathe, here we go)...ON THE SAME FREAKIN' PHONE THAT YOU HAVE!!!

Arrrrrrrrrrgh!!!!!!!!!!

'Nuff said.

What's wrong with having the same thing as someone else. I know you want to be an individual and super elite, better than everyone else and a unique little snowflake but get this you aren't. If you want to buy any apple products you aren't in the least bit unique or special. besides you being a capitalist pig why would apple want to make phones only the elite minority could afford that would calculate out to provide less sales which no company wants.

[jonny]

Well you got one thing right......you are NOT an expert.

Perhaps you should enlighten everyone else with your expertise? So we can all understand why he is "NOT an expert"?

[Yaara]

$700 for a plastic phone? I don't think Apple would be that arrogant and naive.

[Santa Rosa]

Perhaps you should enlighten everyone else with your expertise? So we can all understand why he is "NOT an expert"?

I am a certified expert, just thought I would let everyone know :rolleyes: :)

[bretm]

Looks like a typical Chinese-Japanese-Korean facial structure. Just broad-faced, not particularly overweight.

I was able to pull some more detail out with my beta copy of photoshop CS4. He's starting to look familiar...

[rml4uk]

I was able to pull some more detail out with my beta copy of photoshop CS4. He's starting to look familiar...

That's awesome! Well done sir!

[jonny]

I was able to pull some more detail out with my beta copy of photoshop CS4. He's starting to look familiar...

haha awesome! husky steve!

[HymerSchmidt]

I think this(the attached) is much more plausible; much more "Apple." The glossy black makes me think of patent leather on a transvestite. And unless I'm mistaken, trannies aren't a big thing in consumer markets.

[born4sky]

I was able to pull some more detail out with my beta copy of photoshop CS4. He's starting to look familiar...

as i said it's steve himself

[sananda]

I WILL NOT ALLOW MYSELF TO BE CURSED WITH THE DREADED MOTO RAZR STIGMATA ('ccept this time it'll be referred to as the iPhone stigmata. Duh!).


i know, you want to look money. and if any phone should make you look money, it's iphone. so far it's been great, it's been priced above reaches of riff raff and there haven't been any subsidies. iphone has been reassuringly expensive. but when they reduced the prices in the uk, i saw the chavvy types with half a tub of gel in their hair and afteshave that makes your eyes water wandering around holding iphones looking pleased with themselves. this is going continue if the rumours of subsidies are true.

it's time for you to face facts, iphone will no longer be cool in a few days time. it's over.

[earnjam]

I will not walk around with the same freakin' phone that everybody else has!! Apple, you'd better listen and you betta listen good: put the entry level price point of iPhone v.2 WELL outside the financial reach of the common man or else!!

You could always get one of those absurd phones that's plated in gold and covered in jewels. I'm pretty sure they're always priced way out of the average consumer's range.

[Hecklerdanny]

I was able to pull some more detail out with my beta copy of photoshop CS4. He's starting to look familiar...

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen...Pretty funny though.

[bacaramac]

I was able to pull some more detail out with my beta copy of photoshop CS4. He's starting to look familiar...

Could you please revisit your CS4, zoom out on the picture and see if this all took place in an elevator?

That would seal the deal for me.

[arn]

I think this(the attached) is much more plausible; much more "Apple." The glossy black makes me think of patent leather on a transvestite. And unless I'm mistaken, trannies aren't a big thing in consumer markets.

This photo is just a custom designed regular iphone

See:

http://dvice.com/archives/2007/10/citizencitizen_ccphone_the_wol.php

arn

[The General]

I was able to pull some more detail out with my beta copy of photoshop CS4. He's starting to look familiar...

I got a little closer. There's definitely something fishy going on here...

[rockstarjoe]

I was able to pull some more detail out with my beta copy of photoshop CS4. He's starting to look familiar...

That is amazing and funny. Well done!

[MusLtngBlue]

I got a little closer. There's definitely something fishy going on here...

Say it ain't so, Steve!!!

[dicklacara]

Nope!

[Santa Rosa]

Could you please revisit your CS4, zoom out on the picture and see if this all took place in an elevator?

That would seal the deal for me.

Deal sealed:

118413

[bretm]

I got a little closer. There's definitely something fishy going on here...

You must have the CS5 beta with CSI plugin. Wish I could get my hands on that.

[earnjam]

Deal sealed:

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=118413&stc=1&d=1212523873

I never knew Steve was black! ;)

[bretm]

Deal sealed:

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=118413&stc=1&d=1212523873

He looks just like the guy going down the stairs on the plaque next to the elvator. I had no idea Steve posed for those things.

[bacaramac]

I never knew Steve was black! ;)

ROFLMAO.:D:D

[maxbarros]

i could bet that it will have that shape and it looks like that...

[HymerSchmidt]

This photo is just a custom designed regular iphone

See:

http://dvice.com/archives/2007/10/citizencitizen_ccphone_the_wol.php

arn

Well, that's a bummer. Many would agree it looks better than the gloss, and I can't see Apple cutting corners on design. Gloss is too gaudy, anti-minimalist, and cheap looking.

I'm clearly wrong, but I hope the rumored-photo is wrong as well.

[cere]

Anyone verify the FCC ID? Finally a high quality picture (real or fake). I hope this is it as I really like the black.
A search for BCGA12 at the FCC returns two groups of devices, one of which includes BCGA1264. This device(s) appear to be granted around March 2008. Apple requested confidentiality of the information posted, so the docs, photos etc refer to Airport Express, power bricks and other known devices.

The same search returns a group of devices that were granted in May 2007 and are references to the original iPhone, so there appears to be some consistency here.

[RQPS]

Perhaps these images are just created and leaked by Apple marketing to create buzz around the new 3G phone?

Either way I think it looks fake the pixels are different around the Apple symbol and iPhone text.

[americaskate]

The thing that throws me off is the 8GB on the bottom.
I would expect only a 16 or 32 GB 3G iphone.

[stagi]

I got a little closer. There's definitely something fishy going on here...

Great find :)

[eclipxe]

1. The "weird pixels" around the logo are indeed purple fringing from the contrast difference. Ask any digital photography enthusiast - it matches the fringe patter on the window or light source on the left.

2. The logo is not recessed - what gave you that impression?

3. The text is not misaligned - the shell is just at a slight angle.

4. This doesn't appear to be plastic. Based on the amount of reflectivity it definitely looks like a type of charcoal chrome or dark ceramic/glass.

5. The curvature of the edges all agree with the other case designs shown earlier - there is no way this would fit a current iPhone as a case, no way.

Not saying it's real, but it definitely passes the "I've seen a few shops in my time and can tell from the pixels" test.

[jkr801]

I call fake and here's why.

Show me an major Apple product without the serial number etched or visable somewhere. The back says

Designed by Apple in California Assembled in China
Model Number XXXXX FCC ID XXX

There's no serial number, how can I get the iPhone serviced if the Genius Bar can't see the serial number. If my computer won't boot there is a sticker somewhere, every iPod has had their serial number etched on the outside and the original iPhone has it etched too.

-r

I call a fake on you because here's why:

No hardware?? No Serial #......

So what happened was this guy got his hands on it before it was assembled fully and the serial # is probably etched at the end to match up with all the hardware that is put in it. However the process happens, i dont really know but this is proabaly just the back of the new iphone casing looks pretty damn legitimate to me

[857motoX]

where is the IMEI number??????

[joejoejoe]

I'm still unconvinced that Apple will make the back of the iPhone all plastic.

Look at Apple's history with plastic products

Powerbook
- Went from plastic to titanium, then aluminum

PowerMac
- Went from plastic to aluminum

iMac
- Went from plastic to aluminum

iPod
- Went from plastic to (very recently) aluminum

iPod Nano
- Went from plastic to aluminum

iPod Shuffle
- Went from plastic to aluminum

WHY would apple ever go backwards and make the iPhone plastic? They are about progressive design, not regressive! They're also making the next Macbook (according to strong rumors and evidence) aluminum as well not only to progress the design but also to quell greenpeace and make more environmentally friendly products.

I see no incentive whatsoever for them to make this turn to plastic.

Apple is known to leak false rumors to throw people off regarding upcoming products, and I think this is the best job they've ever done fooling the market.

[extraextra]

I'm still unconvinced that Apple will make the back of the iPhone all plastic.

Look at Apple's history with plastic products

Powerbook
- Went from plastic to titanium, then aluminum

PowerMac
- Went from plastic to aluminum

iMac
- Went from plastic to aluminum

iPod
- Went from plastic to (very recently) aluminum

iPod Nano
- Went from plastic to aluminum

iPod Shuffle
- Went from plastic to aluminum

WHY would apple ever go backwards and make the iPhone plastic? They are about progressive design, not regressive! They're also making the next Macbook (according to strong rumors and evidence) aluminum as well not only to progress the design but also to quell greenpeace and make more environmentally friendly products.

I see no incentive whatsoever for them to make this turn to plastic.

Apple is known to leak false rumors to throw people off regarding upcoming products, and I think this is the best job they've ever done fooling the market.

I agree with this, it doesn't match their current lineup of products.

However there have been so many rumors and "leaked" pictures that I was starting to worry... but like you said, maybe those were planted by Apple. :eek:

[nickXedge]

It is the same id as the current phone, but with a place holder (x) in the last few positions. Same for model number.

8GB is 1203, I assume the 16 is 1204, so the 3g models could be 05 and 06 respectively.

I don't know about the 16GB, but the 4GB is also 1203.

[beppo]

looks like a pretty high quality shell

[timimbo85]

Looks like a typical Chinese-Japanese-Korean facial structure. Just broad-faced, not particularly overweight.

haha isn't it always the typical look.....


whoooooooooooo elseee but Quagmire.......


Sorry.

[timimbo85]

I agree with this, it doesn't match their current lineup of products.

However there have been so many rumors and "leaked" pictures that I was starting to worry... but like you said, maybe those were planted by Apple. :eek:

I agree that they do go to aluminum, but you also have to keep the BlackBook in mind. I would love to have that material on iPhone.

[megfilmworks]

I've said it before. I'm saying it again now (despite it being off-topic to the subject at hand). And I'm going to continue saying it -- at least until I get a fellow poster to join my rebel alliance hehehe -- but this time I'm issuing a firm warning to Apple:

I WILL NOT ALLOW MYSELF TO BE CURSED WITH THE DREADED MOTO RAZR STIGMATA ('ccept this time it'll be referred to as the iPhone stigmata. Duh!).

I will not walk around with the same freakin' phone that everybody else has!! Apple, you'd better listen and you betta listen good: put the entry level price point of iPhone v.2 WELL outside the financial reach of the common man or else!!

Picture this nightmare scenario: you're a highly paid businessman waiting for your plane in the airport for a trip to Hong Kong to seal a multi-million dollar deal when, as you're sitting in the ticketing area checking your corporate email on 3G iPhone v.2, you glance across and in the seat opposite you is an acne-faced pre-teen playing Pac Man (r u ready for this? hold your breathe, here we go)...ON THE SAME FREAKIN' PHONE THAT YOU HAVE!!!

Arrrrrrrrrrgh!!!!!!!!!!

'Nuff said.
That same kid is younger than you so he will most likely be alive long after you die, make more money and have the latest iPhone as well!
Now that's depressing!!

[megfilmworks]

4. This doesn't appear to be plastic. Based on the amount of reflectivity it definitely looks like a type of charcoal chrome or dark ceramic/glass.

Zirconium?
Graphite?
Please anything BUT plastic.:eek:

[paulyras]

its just another picture of everyone's favorite rumor-inducing third party back case, and we've been through this before.

http://gizmodo.com/384356/glossy-black-iphone-3g-is-just-a-third+party-case

So, I went to the link, then to the link that it linked to, then to the original source, and now that part is labeled 'iphone 3g Rear Panel', Seriously...

http://www.appleowner.com/goods.php?id=156

[marcg007]

I think the logo is fake. Photoshopped on. When zooming in the logo, it has completely different pixelation than the rest of the image. A sign to me that it has been pasted on.

I call BS.

begin rant/
This is no such thing as "calling BS" unless you are calling it Bob or something.;) The amount of poor usage of the language on this site and so many others like it is just sad. The only reason for poor use of English on these sites is if it is not your first language. One doesn't call a thing BS unless it is the S that comes out of a Bull. One can say that a statement made by another person is BS implying that it is a false statement. /end rant

Now, assuming this is not fake, I suspect it is a mock-up of either what is about to be released, or one of the design mock-ups that wasn't chosen for either the first gen iPhone or second gen iPhone. The reason I think this is the case is as someone said earlier, a mock-up would have a logo and serial number with X's as place holders for the actual numbers. Given the fact that the numbers and letters shown are from the first gen, makes it seem likely that it is an older mock-up. However, as a mock-up, they may have just put anything on there to just give case designers et al a sense of where things would be located. :D:apple:

[calvinline]

i predict this is reflective chrome. Every ipod revision seems to alternate between a reflective chrome back and a non reflective back.

Why not for the iphone as well?

PS Apple would never use a plastic back - their industrial design aesthetic is so grounded in Bauhaus Modernist principles eg. the honest expression of natural materials - a Modernist designer would never use shiny plastic to represent shiny metal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernist_architecture

[Virgil-TB2]

Zirconium?
Graphite?
Please anything BUT plastic.:eek:Definitely not Zirconia, much too thin.

I would say plastic, or seeing as the case is from Asia, maybe metal with a baked on glaze.

[neven]

begin rant/
This is no such thing as "calling BS" unless you are calling it Bob or something.;) The amount of poor usage of the language on this site and so many others like it is just sad. The only reason for poor use of English on these sites is if it is not your first language. One doesn't call a thing BS unless it is the S that comes out of a Bull. One can say that a statement made by another person is BS implying that it is a false statement. /end rant

The person used the phrase "to call BS" perfectly. You, on the other hand, produced a small pile of BS yourself with this ill-advised rant.

"Call BS", "call it quits", "call it a day", "call shotgun", and heaps of other similar expressions are perfectly grammatical, understandable, and stylistically uncontroversial. You, on the other hand, made at least four laughable errors in five sentences. E.g., "the only reason for poor use of English ... is if it is not your first language." Really? That's the only *reason* for it?

The irony is hilarious.

P.S. Apologies to everyone for derailing the thread, but buffoonery can use an occasional intervention.

[Santa Rosa]

but buffoonery can use an occasional intervention.

Amen :D

[archi17]

How come he has his camera in landscape orientation and the the picture is in Portrait :confused:

[earnjam]

How come he has his camera in landscape orientation and the the picture is in Portrait :confused:

Interesting. But it could have just been cropped to that size to be the shape of the phone.

[neven]

It's cropped?

[alex2016g]

http://i26.tinypic.com/znaqmv.jpg

The shell is not high quality, as people have been saying. (as i think anyway)

1. I use to do Product Design and the bump/bubble you see under 1 is what happens when a plastic is heated into shape but is overheated or heated for too long.(******** up mu project by doing that)

2. Number 2 shows some imperfection in the color, almost looks like its been painted with a brush...

[earnjam]

It's cropped?

It could be, there is really no way to know. It's 792x960. Is that a standard size for whatever kind of camera that is?

[neven]

That's not a standard aspect ratio for any camera.

What's more likely - that it's a cropped photo, or that they photoshopped in a camera in the wrong orientation? :)

[ezpk69]

I don't know what it is, and with only a few days left to wait, frankly I don't care, but I can tell you what it isn't.

It's definitely not Photoshop. Everyone so far who's pointed out their "unmistakable evidence" has only shown their lack of understanding of the program. Or photography. Or digital imaging in general.

It's not perfectly straight, of course not, it's a portrait-oriented center-crop from an extremely close-up landscape-oriented picture, from a lens which probably doesn't have much in the way of distortion compensation.

And the chromatic aberration around the Apple logo? Perfectly consistent with how a point-&-shoot clips highlights.

Zoom into your own pictures, people. These artifacts are everywhere, symptoms of cheap sensors and poor optics, not Photoshop.

In fact, if this is Photoshop, it's extremely well done; the photographic mistakes are so convincing, that it would have to have been done by someone talented enough that it's unlikely they'll be decisively busted by the caliber of detectives that have posted thus far.

(after re-reading my post, this all comes off a lot more condescending than I am in real life, but there isn't an emoticon for hey-I'm-not-calling-you-dumb-but-dude-you're-only-finding-evidence-because-you-want-it-to-be-there-to-support-the-conclusion-you've-already-made.)

EDIT: looking at the thing again, it does look funky, but not PS funky. I have a hard time believing this is even an Apple prototype, so much is wrong (but what do I know, maybe their mock-up standards are not as high as Steve would like), but somebody made this. In real life, with half baked FCC ID and part number too. Couldn't guess why, unless it is Apple. Maybe it's a reject off the prototype production line and that's how it fell into enemy hands?

[megfilmworks]

Which would you rather have? That black plastic thing or:
The maestro of mockups Isamu Sanada's vision of iPhone 2?

[nagromme]

I believe it. And I like it.

I'd like ALL-metal better (for scratch resistance), but that wouldn't work with an antenna. So all-plastic is fine.

Especially if it's the solid-under-clear look that past Apple products have had (like all previous full-size iPods, and the original Nano, and the iMac G5). That's really slick.

Better yet, give me a choice of colors. Bright red please. If not that, then white or deep red would be fine.

(I think the white photos were real too.)

Number 2 shows some imperfection in the color, almost looks like its been painted with a brush...

Or, say... a fingerprint smear :p

All the conspiracy theories in every direction are fun and interesting--but at the end of the day, a REAL phone is a simpler explanation than a fake one. Until more solid evidence shows up, I have to go with the simple explanation.

All these fake photos agree with each other very well, agree with the Griffin case mold, and agree with certain plausible rumors. All look good and very Apple. None have blatant tell-tale signs of fakery, whatever people may work themselves up into thinking. It COULD be fake, yes. But I have to vote "real."

[TheOrioles33]

Which would you rather have? That black plastic thing or:
The maestro of mockups Isamu Sanada's vision of iPhone 2?

Holy crap! I actually like this look!

[Fibonacci]

First, let me say that I am not a fan of the seemingly pervasive design transition FROM boxy TO rounded. Pick any designed product that traverses model years, and I will wager that the design moves from boxy to rounded. Ford Mustang - recent years. Apple notebooks - Macbook to Air Book. I really prefer the boxy look. It seems to me that all that rounding-off of the edges means that someone sacrificed a smaller, boxy design for a larger, rounded design.

That said, the style of rounding we are seeing in this photo and the other similarly shaped photos...where the edge profile appears very narrow would be in line with the Air Book design. The Air Book is not all that thin, yet it looks thin because its girth is hidden under the body and de-accentuated with a very narrow edge.

Now, I hope beyond hope that all of these photos are a Ruse from Steve, but in maintaining design consistency, this rounded back, thin edge would be appropriate. Just not desired.

[nagromme]

It seems to me that all that rounding-off of the edges means that someone sacrificed a smaller, boxy design for a larger, rounded design.

Maybe so. But I'd still rather be slipping a rounded design in/out of my pocket than a boxy one.

(In any case, the tapering on this phone doesn't seem THAT much different from the original iPhone. It's not down to a thin edge like the MacBook Air... which, FWIW, IS very thin--average thickness is amazingly small EVEN if you ignore the visual tapering at the edges. Which is actually more than just a useless illusion: it makes the Air possible to pick up off a table with one hand! Try that with a box.)

PS, I think this is an empty shell (but a shell from the actual iPhone 2) just like I think the white photos were. (Before that was the original black photo which seemed to be a full phone: you could see more of a camera mechanism rather than just a hole.) And it makes sense that case prototypes, or mockups for accessory-makers, or even components from the manufacturing process, might be easier to get ahold of than the full, assembled iPhone 2. (The hole-vs.-real-camera difference between the 2 black photos may have been discussed a million times... but I'm not reading all 7 pages in depth :p )

[ntrigue]

So, I went to the link, then to the link that it linked to, then to the original source, and now that part is labeled 'iphone 3g Rear Panel', Seriously...

http://www.appleowner.com/goods.php?id=156

This is a dummy site. All the other products are $0.00. Whoever faked this one really went all out.

[citron230]

i love that look.

[SFgadgetman]

My vote is for the design by the non-apple employee.

[themiracle]

It is very possible that this was a mockup for the original 2.5 iphone and is beeing shown now to throw us off.

It's Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison ****ing around with us! Might be just Larry and some other guy, because I'm not sure how into this Steve would be.

edit: Looks like a typical Chinese-Japanese-Korean facial structure. Just broad-faced, not particularly overweight.

It's totally Larry with his weird, Asian-face plastic surgery thing.

[SilentCrs]

Which would you rather have? That black plastic thing or:
The maestro of mockups Isamu Sanada's vision of iPhone 2?

I honestly think that it would be horrible to hold as a phone.

[iceman1234]

As you can see it is just a case over the old iphone taken in some kid's room... I can see his reflection on the case:cool:

[themiracle]

BTW, the camera looks like a HP Photosmart M417 (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41R3R6NX9ML._SS500_.jpg) which was introduced in 2005. The age of the camera might suggest that the photo was taken several (more than one) years ago.
Or the guy just hasn't upgraded in a while :-/, which you do suggest with the "might."

What's wrong with having the same thing as someone else. I know you want to be an individual and super elite, better than everyone else and a unique little snowflake but get this you aren't. If you want to buy any apple products you aren't in the least bit unique or special. besides you being a capitalist pig why would apple want to make phones only the elite minority could afford that would calculate out to provide less sales which no company wants.

Well look at RIM with the Blackberry There isn't a huge market for kids with Blackberrys as much right now, and it's mostly business types with them. That's all the poor guy wants, and I'd have to agree with him to a degree. It's not elitism, it's wanting to know that he won't look like that 12yr old when he pulls out his phone at the business meeting he's flying to. This is basically what happened to a bunch of business people when the RAZR went from being a pricey, nice-looking phone to a essentially a carrier handout. Think about it and calm down a little.

[tMac85]

its not even black people. THATS JUST Plain silver reflection in a low lit room. zoom in on the hole at the top and compare the contrast between black and you will notice its just a mirror/ shiny.


not saying that its not legit but this is the second one to be leaked thatt looks the same as the first white one we saw.

[Trip.Tucker]

Submitted by Natbyte

Well, it's certainly not a new iPhone - not in an 8GB version it's not.

Just a case if valid at all.

[nagromme]

An empty hole (I think it's a shell without internals) CAN look darker than shiny, metallic black. Or it could be some kind of silver-gray.

And 8GB is fine for a phone (to say the least). I doubt they will drop 8GB and make 16GB the minimum. They'd rather keep an 8 in the lineup and lower the price, if anything.

[mac*jedi*g]

Look at the reflection in the back of the case. Someone is holding a camera, but the face is removed and ---what the hell is the a state government building is doing behind him? C'mon....:eek:

[macduke]

Looks metallic with an anti-scratch coating. Which would be perfect.

Personally I REALLY want an all black iPhone. I nearly colorwared one. I just wish the MBP came in black. :(

So another bubble appeared under the glass on my iPhone screen...up near the top. Any chance of taking it in after the 3g one is released and getting a replacement 3g? Are all the 1st gen iPhones gone?

[fleshman03]

I never knew Steve was black! ;)

Obviously on the bottom half. :cool:

[benfilan]

Which would you rather have? That black plastic thing or:
The maestro of mockups Isamu Sanada's vision of iPhone 2?

I really like the idea of it being square-ish like this. kinda like a tiny, flat iMac. And I really love the current iMacs colour scheme, the silver/matt chrome/black look. very slick.

[Shasterball]

I guess this means....

[alFR]

It could be black-anodized aluminium: impossible to say from just this pic.

One question though: why didn't they flip it over and take a shot of the other side? If it's the real back shell of the phone, there would be PCB mountings etc. inside it that would distinguish it from a 3rd party hard shell case and would make it look much more authentic.

[frosse]

Why is there only one picture? He could've taken plenty more. fake.

[Chris Bangle]

Which would you rather have? That black plastic thing or:
The maestro of mockups Isamu Sanada's vision of iPhone 2?



That is awesome, first time ive seen it..

[earnjam]

I've said it before with the iPhone "screen issues" between 5 series vs 7 series, but you'll see what you want to see. If you want to see a problem, you'll see a problem.

I'll provide this link once again for an example of a previous instance where there was something so obvious that no one noticed, but as soon as someone pointed it out...everyone freaked out about it!

Seattle Windshield Pitting Epidemic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Windshield_Pitting_Epidemic)

[gloss]

Seattle Windshield Pitting Epidemic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Windshield_Pitting_Epidemic)

Heh. I love that story.

[mmoosa]

in my opinion, it looks very much like scratch resistant ceramic...i have seen ceraic like this and they are quite tough and very scratch resistant so its may be a way for apple to make both the front and back of the iphone/touch scratch resistant to keep those hideous(most of them) cases off.:rolleyes:

[coryetzkorn]

That mockup is sexy. If Johny Ive does something like that I'm gonna be so happy.

The Maestro mockup of course.

[TheSpaz]

That looks siiiiiiiiiiiiick! I claim that it is real! If they're going to be announcing them soon, maybe they got a head start on production and someone stole one of the production parts and took a photo of it. It's quite possible. I knew a guy who used to get CDs before they came out because the CD had to be pressed first and he worked at a place where they made them.

[jayducharme]

IT'S STEVE JOBS HIMSELF!!!
:rolleyes:

"Funny, a ship that leaks from the top...."
:)

[bacaramac]

Which would you rather have? That black plastic thing or:
The maestro of mockups Isamu Sanada's vision of iPhone 2?

Please oh please let the new iPhone look like this. It could be some kind of ceramic on the back part and therefore you have no signal issues. I love it. I don't care how crappy it is to hold as a phone. This is the one.

[bitslap47]

My prediction is:

It will look the exact same, just different internals. If it looks any different at all it will be only that it is slightly thinner.

[bytethese]

It is the same id as the current phone, but with a place holder (x) in the last few positions. Same for model number.

8GB is 1203, I assume the 16 is 1204, so the 3g models could be 05 and 06 respectively.

Doh, can't be true. My current 16GB iPhone is Model No.: A1203

[marcg007]

The person used the phrase "to call BS" perfectly. You, on the other hand, produced a small pile of BS yourself with this ill-advised rant.

"Call BS", "call it quits", "call it a day", "call shotgun", and heaps of other similar expressions are perfectly grammatical, understandable, and stylistically uncontroversial. You, on the other hand, made at least four laughable errors in five sentences. E.g., "the only reason for poor use of English ... is if it is not your first language." Really? That's the only *reason* for it?

The irony is hilarious.

P.S. Apologies to everyone for derailing the thread, but buffoonery can use an occasional intervention.

As it happens, English is not my first language. Perhaps what I should have said was one of the only reasons for poor use of the language. Kindly fill me in on what was incorrect with the words you put in quotes and then we can get back to the topic at hand. Thanks. :D

[Santa Rosa]

http://i26.tinypic.com/znaqmv.jpg

The shell is not high quality, as people have been saying. (as i think anyway)

1. I use to do Product Design and the bump/bubble you see under 1 is what happens when a plastic is heated into shape but is overheated or heated for too long.(******** up mu project by doing that)

2. Number 2 shows some imperfection in the color, almost looks like its been painted with a brush...

Or, now wait for it lol:

1. Is a spec of dust

2. Is someone's greasy fingers

The plot thins up a good chunk.

[BrassJam]

What people are overlooking with all of these black / white curved back plates are that they all sport the 8GB label - does anybody actually think Apple are going to launch this spanking new device after all this pandemonium and hype and then say... "oh yeah and its still only got 8GB of storage to store all of your songs, videos, photos, documents, apps, mailboxes etc etc".

Get real - the 8GB is dead!

[Zadillo]

What people are overlooking with all of these black / white curved back plates are that they all sport the 8GB label - does anybody actually think Apple are going to launch this spanking new device after all this pandemonium and hype and then say... "oh yeah and its still only got 8GB of storage to store all of your songs, videos, photos, documents, apps, mailboxes etc etc".

Get real - the 8GB is dead!

I wouldn't be surprised if Apple offers the new iPhone in three different sizes (8GB, 16GB and 32GB), although I do agree that if they keep it simple and have only 2 variations, they would be 16 and 32GB. The benefit of an 8GB model would that it could still be cheaper.

-Zadillo

[earnjam]

I wouldn't be surprised if Apple offers the new iPhone in three different sizes (8GB, 16GB and 32GB), although I do agree that if they keep it simple and have only 2 variations, they would be 16 and 32GB. The benefit of an 8GB model would that it could still be cheaper.

-Zadillo

I've actually never filled up my 8GB. I have an 80GB iPod that I put everything on. The iPhone only gets the best of the best.

But if we can start saving documents, maybe throw in stored maps for GPS, I think I might want a 16 or 32.

I'm stoked to think about the possibility of satellite imagery and topographic maps with GPS on this device. If you could store them so you wouldn't need cell towers, hiking and exploring with that would be incredible.

"Where are we?"
"Let's see...we're in this valley. Oooh, we don't want to go up that ridge. There are cliffs on the other side. We would just have to come back down the same way. Let's just follow this creek around it."

[Project]

I agree with those saying why would you only put one photo up. And one of the back at that.

Remember all of the leaked products in the past? The 5G iPod? The stubby nanos? They were all front pictures so there could be no mistake.

[earnjam]

I agree with those saying why would you only put one photo up. And one of the back at that.

Remember all of the leaked products in the past? The 5G iPod? The stubby nanos? They were all front pictures so there could be no mistake.

Unless it's just a shell...which it looks like from the camera hole.

If it's only the back shell, then why would we need to see the other side? It would just be the inside of the shell.

[Project]

Unless it's just a shell...which it looks like from the camera hole.

If it's only the back shell, then why would we need to see the other side? It would just be the inside of the shell.

good point. clearly im not thinking straight

[johnnyt]

What's wrong with having the same thing as someone else. I know you want to be an individual and super elite, better than everyone else and a unique little snowflake but get this you aren't. If you want to buy any apple products you aren't in the least bit unique or special. besides you being a capitalist pig why would apple want to make phones only the elite minority could afford that would calculate out to provide less sales which no company wants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

I'm sure Steve and Apple aren't capitalists, I mean they aren't interested in making money, right? I'm sure they sell all their products at cost, after all, Steve only got that $1 paycheck right?

[rhyndu]

Finally something good quality....

That hole though for the camera looks like a hole... funnily enough. My suspicions are that this is a casing.

Edit: Having zoomed in on the photo, we can deduct that the man who took the photo lives in somewhat of a modern house... with perhaps a bar in the reflection...? We can clearly see his type of digital camera... surely the company has a list of all owners of that camera...? And the man looks to have a bald head, perhaps wearing glasses (zoom really up close - look behind the back of the camera, top right of the 8GB sign.

With these details we must be able to track him down...? Somehow...?

It is Steve Jobs!!!!1111!!1!1

Of course 1111!11

[bobertoq]

Looks pretty nice... now they just need to make a matte version.

It is Steve Jobs!!!!1111!!1!1

Of course 1111!11If it was Steve Jobs, he wouldn't have used a digital camera, he would have used another iPhone ;)

[appleaddict78]

I find it hard to believe this would be apples new 3g generation of the iphone. It looks too much like the old one and would hardly exceed critics expectations. I suspect the iphones will evolve similar to the ipod in terms of increased memory, lighter weight and perhaps thinner. :D

[Spike Lightfoot]

Some observations:

#1 There are two people in this photo, the one taking the photo and another person, perhaps on the other side of the table. You can see the second person’s reflection on the top of the phone near the camera hole. This person has no camera and the radius of the phone’s edges distorts their face.

#2 The person with the camera is not bald, the two skin colored lumps on the reflection are only the photo takers index fingers. If you look between their thumb and index finger next to the camera you will see their hair line on the right side of their face.

Who are these people??? Photographer: Collared shirt, no tie, short hair. Eyes and upper face obscured by camera. Friend: possibly Asian, smiling.

[rhyndu]

Looks pretty nice... now they just need to make a matte version.

If it was Steve Jobs, he wouldn't have used a digital camera, he would have used another iPhone ;)

Ahhh.... but of course you would think that which is why Steve Jobs used a different camera!!1111!11 To fool you!!!!!!

See, he really is the worlds smartest most visionist!!!!111!!
Do note that all statements above were SARCASTIC.