Tiếng Việt.html file I can not get rid of

[SURF2DY]

I have tried everything to delete this file
Renaming
Terminal (rm -rt)
nothing works...Can anybody help?

[robbieduncan]

Are there any other .html files you need to keep in the same directory? If not rm *.html would likely work. Why can't you delete it? Permission denied or you can't get the system to accept the filename?

[SURF2DY]

every time you try to rename it, it will not let you and
an unexpected error occurred (error code -43) appears

[lee1210]

In the worst-case scenario, you should be able to move anything of value in the directory and any subdirectories then rm -rf the containing directory. I doubt even a very wily file would have the skills to prevent the directory it's in from being blasted.

Another tact might be to rename it. That may be tough, but the first letter seems pretty standard. You might try to just type:
mv Ti<tab>
and see if tab completion gives you a nicely escaped filename. If so, just type an easier filename as the second argument and hopefully it will be moved successfully.

If things get particularly dire using find with an exec directive might work, but I can't say so for sure.

-Lee

[SURF2DY]

I've tried both options above and still no luck
the rm -rf states:
rm: illegal option -- /
usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dPRrvW] file ...
unlink file
and
renaming it anything wont work it just gives you the error message
(error code -43)

[yeroen]

Whenever I have to remove a file with a name the shell doesn't recognize, I have to include the directory it's as as argument to rm, as such:

rm -f ./*.html

Assuming you don't mind blowing away any other html files in that directory, does that line work?

The (-43) error is most likely the value of the shells 'errno' variable. You can look it up in /usr/include/errno.h to see what 43 maps to. It can vary from system to system, but on Linux I see:

...
#define EIDRM 43 /*Identifier Removed*/
...

[SURF2DY]

Thanks - tried it and it still does not get rid of the file

[yeroen]

And you can't delete it in Finder?

[Sayer]

-43 is a fine not found error.

You should run Disk Utility and verify the hard drive. You prolly have some bad data on the disk.

If you have any Mac OS X disc, or the discs that came with the Mac boot from one and run Disk Utility to repair the drive.

[HiRez]

Why not move everything else in that folder into a temporary folder, then delete the whole folder, create a new one, and move the old stuff back. But I agree with Sayer, verify the disk and permissions first.

[SURF2DY]

Thank for all your help, but this file is not going anywhere.
The file "Tiếng Việt.html" is in it's own folder called "Legal"
I can delete the whole folder but then it just sits in the trash
and will not permanently delete, it will just stay in the trash
all other items in the trash get deleted but this folder will not go

Any other ideas?

[yeroen]

Thank for all your help, but this file is not going anywhere.
The file "Tiếng Việt.html" is in it's own folder called "Legal"
I can delete the whole folder but then it just sits in the trash
and will not permanently delete, it will just stay in the trash
all other items in the trash get deleted but this folder will not go

Any other ideas?

What are the ownership and permissions of the parent Legal directory? If you do an

ls -l Legal

who's are they owned by and is the sticky bit set (a 't' at the end)? If it the sticky bit is set, even if you have write permission to the directory, if the .html file isn't owned by you won't be able to delete it.

Just sudo to root and try removing it then.

[SURF2DY]

This is what I get when I try ls -1 Legal
lb0004:~ sandymartinez$ ls -1 legal/Users/sandymartinez/Desktop/Legal.rtf/
ls: legal/Users/sandymartinez/Desktop/Legal.rtf/: No such file or directory

I dont know what sudo to root is?

Thanks for all your help, but I guess Im just going to have to
live with this file in the trash.:apple:

[operator207]

Try doing everything in this article: http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20070327092656342

Gotta love Adobe Products. I am pretty sure this was the article I used when I had this problem last year.

[yeroen]

This is what I get when I try ls -1 Legal
lb0004:~ sandymartinez$ ls -1 legal/Users/sandymartinez/Desktop/Legal.rtf/
ls: legal/Users/sandymartinez/Desktop/Legal.rtf/: No such file or directory

I dont know what sudo to root is?

You want to type ls -l (the letter 'l', not the number '1') to get the full listing with permissions, so type as shown:

ls -ld ~/Desktop/Legal.rtf

ls -l ~/Desktop/Legal.rtf

This prints out the directory and file permission bits. Post them here when you're done.

Sudo'ing to root means switching to the root user, where you enjoy omnipotent godlike privileges on your system. You can remove the file as root in one shot by typing:

sudo rm -R /Users/sandymartinez/Desktop/Legal.rtf

I left off the 'f' option here so rm will prompt you to make sure you want to delete (this protects you in case you put a space between '/' and 'Legal.rtf', which would otherwise blow away your entire desktop..every UNIX user has accidentally done this to their horror sometime in their lives). Unless some process has the contents of this file memory mapped (which I doubt), this will remove the file.

[SURF2DY]

You want to type ls -l (the letter 'l', not the number '1') to get the full listing with permissions, so type as shown:

ls -ld ~/Desktop/Legal.rtf

ls -l ~/Desktop/Legal.rtf

This prints out the directory and file permission bits. Post them here when you're done.

Sudo'ing to root means switching to the root user, where you enjoy omnipotent godlike privileges on your system. You can remove the file as root in one shot by typing:

sudo rm -R /Users/sandymartinez/Desktop/Legal.rtf

I left off the 'f' option here so rm will prompt you to make sure you want to delete (this protects you in case you put a space between '/' and 'Legal.rtf', which would otherwise blow away your entire desktop..every UNIX user has accidentally done this to their horror sometime in their lives). Unless some process has the contents of this file memory mapped (which I doubt), this will remove the file.

lb0004:~ sandymartinez$ ls -ld ~/Desktop/Legal.rtf
drwxrwxrwx 3 sandymar admin 102 Jun 5 13:35 /Users/sandymartinez/Desktop/Legal.rtf
lb0004:~ sandymartinez$ ls -l ~/Desktop/Legal.rtf
ls: Tiếng Việt.html: No such file or directory
lb0004:~ sandymartinez$ sudo su
lb0004:/Users/sandymartinez root# rm -R /Users/sandymartinez/Desktop/Legal.rtf
rm: /Users/sandymartinez/Desktop/Legal.rtf/Tiếng Việt.html: No such file or directory
rm: /Users/sandymartinez/Desktop/Legal.rtf: Directory not empty
lb0004:/Users/sandymartinez root#

[JNB]

Silly question, but have you tried rebooting after placing the file (or entire directory) in the Trash, then after restart, emptying the Trash?

Another utility that's never failed for me is SuperEmptyTrash (http://www.faqintosh.com/risorse/en/sys/setrash/).

[SURF2DY]

Silly question, but have you tried rebooting after placing the file (or entire directory) in the Trash, then after restart, emptying the Trash?

Another utility that's never failed for me is SuperEmptyTrash (http://www.faqintosh.com/risorse/en/sys/setrash/).

I have tried to reboot and it still will not delete
Also just tried your SuperEmptyTrash and it wont get rid of the files either
it says the directory is not empty

[yeroen]

You either have a corrupted inode or (more likely) the Tieng file has non-printable characters in the file name.

If you go into the Legal.rtf directory and type in

rm -f *Ti*

does that remove it?

[JNB]

I have tried to reboot and it still will not delete
Also just tried your SuperEmptyTrash and it wont get rid of the files either
it says the directory is not empty

OK, I kinda doubted based on your reports thus far that it would work, but sometimes it's the little things that get overlooked.

[SURF2DY]

You either have a corrupted inode or (more likely) the Tieng file has non-printable characters in the file name.

If you go into the Legal.rtf directory and type in

rm -f *Ti*

does that remove it?

How do you get into the directory?

[yeroen]

How do you get into the directory?

cd /Users/sandymartinez/Desktop/Legal.rtf

[SURF2DY]

cd /Users/sandymartinez/Desktop/Legal.rtf

still does not remove it

lb0004:~ sandymartinez$ cd /users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf
lb0004:/users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf sandymartinez$ rm -f*ti*
rm: illegal option -- *
usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dPRrvW] file ...
unlink file

[yeroen]

you need to put a space between the 'f' and the first '*', and use a capital 'T', exactly as so:

rm -f *Ti*

[SURF2DY]

you need to put a space between the 'f' and the first '*', and use a capital 'T', exactly as so:

rm -f *Ti*

Noted, but I have tried it both ways and it still does not get rid of the file
lb0004:~ sandymartinez$ sudo su
Password:
lb0004:/Users/sandymartinez root# cd /users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf
lb0004:/users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf root# rm -f *Ti*
lb0004:/users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf root#
and w/out sudo to root
lb0004:~ sandymartinez$ cd /users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf
lb0004:/users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf sandymartinez$ rm -f *Ti*
lb0004:/users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf sandymartinez$

[SURF2DY]

you need to put a space between the 'f' and the first '*', and use a capital 'T', exactly as so:

rm -f *Ti*

I have tried it both ways, and still no luck

[yeroen]

Go into the Legal.rtf directory. Do:

ls -lq

The 'q' option shows nonprintable characters in the filename as a '?' character. I'm curious to see if that's part of the problem.

[SURF2DY]

Go into the Legal.rtf directory. Do:

ls -lq

The 'q' option shows nonprintable characters in the filename as a '?' character. I'm curious to see if that's part of the problem.

lb0004:~ sandymartinez$ cd /users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf
lb0004:/users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf sandymartinez$ ls -lq
ls: Tiếng Việt.html: No such file or directory
lb0004:/users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf sandymartinez$

[SamMiller0]

try:

ls -b

it should display non-printable characters using their octal equivalents.

[SURF2DY]

try:

ls -b

it should display non-printable characters using their octal equivalents.

lb0004:~ sandymartinez$ cd /users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf
lb0004:/users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf sandymartinez$ ls -b
Tie\314\202\314\201ng Vie\314\202\314\243t.html
lb0004:/users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf sandymartinez$

[yeroen]

While in legal.rtf, do:

stat -x *

That'll give you the Inode numbers of all files in the directory, including this troublesome Tieng file. We are going to remove this file, not by name but by Inode number. Post this number here.

[yeroen]

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[SURF2DY]

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lb0004:/users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf sandymartinez$ stat -x *
stat: Tiếng Việt.html: stat: No such file or directory
lb0004:/users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf sandymartinez$

[yeroen]

Ok, since we had some luck with 'ls -b', let's do it again and get the inode number with 'i', i.e.

ls -ib

That should print out something like:

123456 Tie\314\202\314\201ng Vie\314\202\314\243t.html

where '123456' is the files inode number. Take that number and use it as follows:

find . -inum 123456 exec rm -f {} \;

[SURF2DY]

Ok, since we had some luck with 'ls -b', let's do it again and get the inode number with 'i', i.e.

ls -ib

That should print out something like:

123456 Tie\314\202\314\201ng Vie\314\202\314\243t.html

where '123456' is the files inode number. Take that number and use it as follows:

find . -inum 123456 exec rm -f {} \;

lb0004:/users/sandymartinez/desktop/legal.rtf sandymartinez$ ls -ib
ls: Tiếng Việt.html: No such file or directory

[Consultant]

With the file in trash, hold option key, and do empty trash.

[SURF2DY]

With the file in trash, hold option key, and do empty trash.

No Luck

[Sbrocket]

Are you sure that you verified the integrity of your filesystem with Disk Utility? This sounds like filesystem corruption to me.

[yeroen]

I'd try swapping the order of the 'b' and 'i' arguments to ls, so 'ls -bi' instead of 'ls -ib', and try my suggestion one more time.

If that doesn't work, then I'm guessing your filesystem is corrupted. You can either run fsck as root or open /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility.app and check the integrity of your filesystem.

[sord]

Out of curiosity, I tried to reproduce:
craig:~/tmp# touch "`echo $'Tie\314\202\314\201ng Vie\314\202\314\243t.html'`"
craig:~/tmp# ls
Tiếng Việt.html
craig:~/tmp# rm Tiếng\ Việt.html
craig:~/tmp# ls
craig:~/tmp#

I'm guessing possible disk issue -- I would run fsck as suggested.

Also -- what filesystem are you using? (Open Disk Utility, select your partition, then at the bottom of the app read Format)

[SURF2DY]

Thanks everyone for your help, file system needed minor repair
problem fixed and files deleted. Thanks again.

[weg]

I have tried everything to delete this file
Renaming
Terminal (rm -rt)
nothing works...Can anybody help?

I had a similar problem. I ended up moving the file to /tmp/ to get rid of it (that worked), but I don't know why.

[yeroen]

I had a similar problem. I ended up moving the file to /tmp/ to get rid of it (that worked), but I don't know why.

different partition?