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iJon
Nov 29, 2003, 02:09 PM
Me and my two best friends were driving home Wednesday night. They were Indian so they were going to spend Thanksgiving with me. On our way home we were going to Sonic but they were closed and wasl looking for a turaround apoint. Everythign after that we dont't remember because I blackedout and dreamed for a very long time and woke up with poilce and abumlances. I was the driver and Avkash was sitting next to me. We were both wearing our seatbelts and came out ok. His brother and my friend Avnish died, police do not think he was wearing his seatbelt. We rolled over numerous times and hit a tree. This has been a terrible time for his family and me as well becasue I still blame myself even though his family and brother tell me not to. there was no drinking or drugs or anything at all and netiher of us remember the wreck. For all of you who believe in God, just pray from my friend Avkash for his fast recovery, his injuries aren't serious and will just require time. Pray for me as well. I have a broke cheek bone and eye socket bone and just hope you guys will pray for a good surgery. Pray for my friend Avnish that he will watch over me and his brother as we contiune our lives as best friends. God Bless.

iJon



tazo
Nov 29, 2003, 02:14 PM
May the Lord be with you in your time of need iJon. Keep praying, God is listening.

May the Lord be with you.

wdlove
Nov 29, 2003, 02:23 PM
I'm so sorry iJon. This is very sad news. It is very difficult in a situation like this not to blame yourself. Sounds to me like you were not at fault. Are the police trying to reconstruct the accident? Hopefully other members will learn from your experience and also wear their seatbelt. I always thought that you were a very responsible young man, try not to be hard on yourself.

My prayers go out to Avnish may he rest in peace. Hope that his parents will find comfort in the Lord. I pray that you and Avkash will fully recover. May you all be surrounded by his Love. Do both of you have a prognosis for a full recovery? Look forward to your full recovery and return to the forum, you will be missed. ;)

Wes
Nov 29, 2003, 03:16 PM
You have my sincerest condolences.

It's things like this that put life into perspective.

Sorry.

:(

Kwyjibo
Nov 29, 2003, 03:45 PM
iJon if theres anything I can do let me know. I hope you and your friend feel better soon and everything goes well with the surgery.

VirtualInsanity
Nov 29, 2003, 04:02 PM
Don't blame yourself iJon, it doesn't seem like it was your fault at all.

Im sorry, let us know if we can do anything. We will miss you and pray for the recovery of those involved.:(

rainman::|:|
Nov 29, 2003, 04:12 PM
My condolences and best wishes for recovery. Being the driver in a fatal accident is a terrible weight to carry around, i have seen many people in this situation turn to alcohol and drugs. It's important that you seek counseling if you are comfortable doing so; not to have someone tell you "it's not your fault", as people are already telling you that, rather a person to open up to and help you come to realize this for yourself.

if you ever need to talk, you have a lot of friends here at MR, just keep that in mind.

paul

celaurie
Nov 29, 2003, 04:14 PM
We're all here if you need us.

kuyu
Nov 29, 2003, 04:26 PM
iJon, sorry to hear about your friend. Sometimes life throws us a curve ball, but these things are out of are hands. Everyone please pray for iJon and his buddy. Remember, you have friends on macrumors. Best wishes to you and your family.

applemacdude
Nov 29, 2003, 04:33 PM
My prayers go out for you and your friends. God sometimes calls people to go up with him. Do not blame yourself. May God be with you........

alset
Nov 29, 2003, 04:53 PM
It's very rare that I pray, but I will for both of you. Also, I'll throw in a few for your families. So sorry to hear that you have to go through something like this. Keep your head up and find positivity wherever you can.

Dan

Doctor Q
Nov 29, 2003, 05:30 PM
I am so sorry to hear about the car accident, iJon. The injury to your cheek and eye socket must hurt. I hope the surgery goes well and that you have a fast recovery. I hope Avkash will recover quickly too.

The hurt from the loss of your friend Avnish must be very hard to deal with. Like your physical injuries, healing will require time, and will be hardest at first.

Please know that your friends here at MacRumors are wishing the best for you.

eyelikeart
Nov 29, 2003, 07:05 PM
Wow iJon, I hope u are ok. This is definitely nothing easy to handle during the holidays. Just keep in mind that good can & will come from this, no matter how much it hurts.

scem0
Nov 29, 2003, 08:05 PM
That can't be an easy thing to deal with.

I sincerely wish you the best of luck in this matter.

Hope you feel better,
scem0

iJon
Nov 29, 2003, 11:25 PM
thank you guys, all your comments help. my cheek and eye do not hurt, only because that half of my face is numb. but since of my parents business, they had many doctors come look at me out of courtousey and they say everything will go well and that my injuries are not serious. i will go to the facial doctors monday and find out when surgery will take place. as for the accident i dont know what what happened, only what we were going to do that night. the night was foggy and the roads were wet and it was at a turn. my friend avkash says he remember a van pulling out in front of us but i honestly don't remember anything. the poilce say avnish wasnt wearing a seatbelt which tears me apart because i always wear mine and everyone who ever gets in my car knows to wear one. i dont know how i will ever get over this, i cry everynight telling myself what should of happened different and all those little things, but people and even avkash and his family assure me that is was an accident and that we have to be strong and god decideded it was his turn. its rough, it just seems what has just happened only happened in the movies or to a friend of a friend/ avkash keeps telling me to toughen up for nish because nish wouldn't want me to be a p***y. my old youth paston who recently moved back to town has been talking to me and he just told me this is one of those things that will take time and only time can make this better. ill will respond back after the sugery to let you guys know how it went and thank you for the prayers, avkash and i are staying strong and we are still planning on goign to our trip to mexico by ourselves to be with each other and grow stronger and to get away from everything.

iJon

eyelikeart
Nov 29, 2003, 11:39 PM
keep strong man...

vniow
Nov 30, 2003, 12:24 AM
I hope everything works out iJon and I wish there was more I could say but I can't....

Rower_CPU
Nov 30, 2003, 01:57 AM
Words fall far short when trying to communicate emotions in situations like this...

Here's to your and Avkash's speedy recovery and to Avnish's memory.

pseudobrit
Nov 30, 2003, 12:42 PM
Nothing anyone can say will make it better. You're going to need time, and at times it may seem like it will never stop hurting, but the clouds will clear.

Just keep talking; keep letting it out. We're all here listening and we can all understand at some level.

Remember everyone, buckle up.

WinterMute
Nov 30, 2003, 12:46 PM
That is so hard iJon, I wish you and yours a speedy recovery.

Try not to beat yourself up over this, accidents happen and there wasn't much you could have done either way from the sound of it.

wdlove
Nov 30, 2003, 03:03 PM
Remember iJon that "there are no coincidences in life, but the providence of God." We in this life will never understand what plan God has for us. What seems like a tragedy to us, God has a plan to turn in into good so that it will glorify him.

"If God is for us who can be against us?" Romans 8:31

"Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved." Romans 10:13

MattG
Nov 30, 2003, 03:25 PM
Sorry to hear about all that iJon. Hope your surgery goes okay.

iJon
Nov 30, 2003, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
Remember iJon that "there are no coincidences in life, but the providence of God." We in this life will never understand what plan God has for us. What seems like a tragedy to us, God has a plan to turn in into good so that it will glorify him.

"If God is for us who can be against us?" Romans 8:31

"Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved." Romans 10:13
thank you for the calming words. my friends were hindu (well they believed in our god but there parents were hindu so they didnt show it much) but I asked avkash about what happens now and he said that God decided that Avnish had completed his goals here on earth in 17 years and it was his time. they were calming words as well. i still need to get in some counciling though because everynight when i lay my head down all i think about is the wreck and suicide.

iJon

CmdrLaForge
Nov 30, 2003, 03:56 PM
Sorry to hear that iJon. Wish you all the best. Keep praying. God is with you.

~Shard~
Nov 30, 2003, 04:07 PM
You have my sincerest condolences as well iJon - take care and keep strong.

wdlove
Nov 30, 2003, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by iJon
thank you for the calming words. my friends were hindu (well they believed in our god but there parents were hindu so they didnt show it much) but I asked avkash about what happens now and he said that God decided that Avnish had completed his goals here on earth in 17 years and it was his time. they were calming words as well. i still need to get in some counciling though because everynight when i lay my head down all i think about is the wreck and suicide.

iJon

Yes, iJon by all means please get some counseling. It could be a minister that you trust or a psychologist. It scares me when you mention that you are thinking about suicide. Please tell that they are only thoughts? Do you have a plan? Please promise me that you will be safe till you can see someone? Thoughts of suicide isa very serious manner. I know of what I speak. Please pray and put your trust in Jesus Christ, he is there for you. Just remember you are never really alone. Let go and let God.

CustomPbook 12
Nov 30, 2003, 11:07 PM
jon

U and Avkash have my sympathy, I hope you have a speedy recovery, let me know when the surgery is, if u or you family need anything please let me know. Time heals all wounds and this troubled time will eventually come to pass. May god be with us all.

Ethan

nospleen
Nov 30, 2003, 11:18 PM
iJon, I will keep you all in my prayers. I cannot even fathom what you are going through right now. Stay strong and please do not even contemplate suicide, it is never the answer. Just think about what that would do to your family and your friends. Keep your head up!

~Shard~
Nov 30, 2003, 11:22 PM
I agree with the other posters iJon - please don't contemplate suicide. Just think about what you are going through right now and how you feel, and relaize that your parents, friends and family would feel the exact same way if they lost you. Suicide is not the answer - although it may have been your friend's time, it is definitely not yours. Although it's hard to believe right now, God gives us experiences like this to make us better and stronger individuals.

Hang in there friend!

tpjunkie
Dec 1, 2003, 12:09 AM
I'm so sorry iJon...I hope you make it through all this ok, its a very tough thing to have to deal with...my condolences go out

pyrotoaster
Dec 1, 2003, 12:37 AM
I'm sorry, and you and Avkash and his family all have my condolences. I've never lost anyone that suddenly, so I can only imagine what this must be like for you.

You should do whatever you feel necessary to cope with this, and definitely seek counseling if you think you need it.

I think it's obvious that you have many friends here, so don't forget that.

Squire
Dec 1, 2003, 02:34 AM
iJon,

My thoughts and prayers go out to you, your friend, and your families.

I read this post at 6 AM this morning and thought all day about what I could say to make you feel even a little bit better. So, here goes...

A short time ago, the National Hockey League- and the Atlanta Thrashers franchise, in particular- was stunned by a sudden accident involving two players, Dany Heatley and Dan Snyder. Heatley, one of the league's most promising young stars, crashed his Ferrari. Snyder, his close friend and teammate, died a few days after the crash. Reckless driving and exceeding the speed limits were the culprits. Alcohol and drugs were not involved.

This unfortunate incident sent shock waves through the world of hockey and, indirectly, had an impact on me, as well (although I'll never really know how much of an impact). You see, I often drive above the speed limit. When I look down at the speedometer, however, I'm constantly reminded of the crash the hockey players were in.

And I slow down.

Again, like the others have already mentioned, I can not fathom the pain you're going through nor will I even try to. But, if you were to spend the next 50 years passing on this story, who knows how many lives could be saved? Wearing your own seat belt is simple. You could advise people to demand that their passengers do the same. Write a letter to your local newspaper, visit a driver's ed class, give a talk at a local high school...anything. Make it your mission.

You may not realize it yet, but you've already affected a number of people in this forum.

My prayers go out to you.

Squire

trebblekicked
Dec 1, 2003, 05:07 AM
god bless you,

keep well, talk to people, and take your time with your physical and emotional recovery. my prayers are with you.

kiwi_the_iwik
Dec 1, 2003, 07:49 AM
iJon -

Don't even THINK of suicide - it's NOT what Avnish would've wanted you to do.

Avkash even said it - that he'd fulfilled his mission on Earth in the 17 years he was given.

The world is a happier place for his being here - and we can all see it in your sorrow for his loss. But that's not where it should ever end - his passing gives you the chance to make his memory live on. Don't deny him of that.

Be strong, mate. We're all here in your corner.

:)

evoluzione
Dec 1, 2003, 09:39 AM
as a lot of people here have said, you have a lot of friends at MR, and if there's anything any of us can do, just say the words, seriously.

make sure you go on your trip to Mexico too, time is a good healer and it certainly wouldn't hurt to get away either. listen to Avkash, accept his words and don't feel like his parents are just saying "it wasn't your fault", they're not just saying it, they mean it. don't beat yourself up over the fact that 'nish wasn't wearing his seatbelt, it was his time and it may not have saved him anyway. i know you're probably trying to solve it all in your mind and figure out if you should have done something different, but you did nothing wrong. believe in yourself and those around you.



You'll Never Walk Alone

e-coli
Dec 1, 2003, 10:03 AM
Wow, iJon. My most sincere condolences regarding your misfortune. Sometimes things just happen, and we can't get a handle on their purpose. But everything happens that is meant to happen in due course.

If you need anything, we're all here to help.

Good luck with the surgery. I had a similar incident with similar injuries...the surgery sounds worse than it actually is. You'll be fine. ;)

ExoticFish
Dec 1, 2003, 11:00 AM
Jeez... I am so very sorry to hear about this iJon. The first thing I have to say is that as everyone else has said, suicide is NOT the answer. Please turn your thoughts to God and loved ones to help guide you through this difficult time. Couseling is also a great idea.

Secondly, I will keep you in my prayers and like everyone else here as already said, we're here for you.

rt_brained
Dec 1, 2003, 07:10 PM
Where did this incident take place? Anyone know?

Doctor Q
Dec 1, 2003, 07:53 PM
I believe this was in Arkansas.

pseudobrit
Dec 1, 2003, 08:10 PM
Give yourself time.

The hurting will stop, though I know it may seem like it's an eternity now.

Just give it time. Dawn always erupts just after the darkest hour.

Macmaniac
Dec 1, 2003, 08:12 PM
Good luck man, hope to see you back again soon in the forums!

iJon
Dec 1, 2003, 10:52 PM
surgery takes place tomorrow, ill keep you posted.

iJon

~Shard~
Dec 1, 2003, 11:58 PM
All the luck in the world to you - I know the surgery will go perfectly.

Hang in there iJon!

Doctor Q
Dec 2, 2003, 12:06 AM
Good luck, Jon. At your age, you will heal quickly. Ask the nurse for ice cream - it'll do you good.

iJon
Dec 2, 2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Good luck, Jon. At your age, you will heal quickly. Ask the nurse for ice cream - it'll do you good.
and a spoange bath too ;)

iJon

Doctor Q
Dec 2, 2003, 12:58 AM
Not so fast there, Jon. Your nurse might turn out to be wdlove, for all you know.

Will it be inpatient or outpatient? What exactly are they going to do to you?

Squire
Dec 2, 2003, 01:34 AM
iJon,

Good luck. It will probably be a piece of cake. Get well soon.

Squire

wdlove
Dec 2, 2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by iJon
and a spoange bath too ;)

iJon

I makes my heart feel good to hear you make that comment. Being able to laught is a good sign. I wish you all the best with your surgery today. Please follow what the doctors and nurses tell you, especially the nurses. Doctor Q is correct your age is on your side.

Have you been able to talk to someone?

iJon
Dec 2, 2003, 10:22 PM
sugery wnt fine. doctor said it was worse than what the xray showed. my who eye socket had caved in so he replaced it with some titanium. he removed the bone from my naval cavity. im back home and have added like 5 pills to my daily intake. i had a bunch of friends come over and see me today. then i hada bunch of girls come over and they all watch simple life with me, that new show with paris hilton living in arkansas, i bet shawdowfax got as much of a kick out of it as i did. thank god i dont live in that part. ill keep you guys posted, looks like time is just what needs to come next and i think i will be in school next week.

iJon

mactastic
Dec 2, 2003, 10:31 PM
Good for you man, you sound a little better already. Time is what you need, and unfortunately, it just takes - well - time. Glad the sense of humor is coming back.

pseudobrit
Dec 2, 2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by iJon
my who eye socket had caved in so he replaced it with some titanium.

Did you try to get them to go for the new Aircraft-grade aluminium instead?

"C'mon, doc, titanium is so 2002!"

;)

Keep your chin up, mate.

~Shard~
Dec 3, 2003, 12:10 AM
That's great news iJon, I'm glad everything turned out well with the surgery. Take care, hang in there and please keep us posted on your progress.

tazo
Dec 3, 2003, 01:10 AM
do they like demetallicize the titanium? what do u do at the airport?

Doctor Q
Dec 3, 2003, 01:25 AM
Great news, Jon. I really was worrying about you today. This is the first thread I checked this evening when I got home from work. I'm glad your repair work went well and that your metallic implant seems to attract girls!

:) :) :)

iJon
Dec 3, 2003, 10:15 AM
yeah ive definently had more girls over than guys. ive had like 6 of my guy friends come visiit me and and then about 14 girls each day. they have crawled in my bed and watched tv with me and on the girls ever alphabatized my dvd collectiona nd i have no idea why. but yeah im feeling pretty good today. i have to take lots of pills, then lots of nasal spray, then ihave to wash my mouth out with something from where the cut inside my mouth. then i have to put these liquid in my eye which turns to a goop and then i can only sleep on side of my face and i have to sleep at at least at a 30 degree angle so blood doesnt spill out. ill keep your guys progressed. if you guys want, on att i recieve free text messages so if arn posts anything excited for the daily updates go to www.attws.com and you should see sent text message at the top. its free and my number 1-479-236-9730. my powerbook was broken in the crash so my dad is fixing it right now and every now and then i stumble in here on my g5 to check mail when i should be lying down.

iJon

Kwyjibo
Dec 3, 2003, 01:04 PM
wait iJon why don't you live/ party in that part, if you had been around during the taping oyu could have pretended to be 19 and been like hey baby and been one of the "hot" guys in arkansas ... then you could video tape it and put it on the internet ... i didn't find the simple life that entertaining but i'm glad you did, are you putting anytime in behind the old xbox? seems like injuries are the prime time to perfect a certain game and then kick butt against your friends when your back and good.

iJon
Dec 3, 2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Kwyjibo
wait iJon why don't you live/ party in that part, if you had been around during the taping oyu could have pretended to be 19 and been like hey baby and been one of the "hot" guys in arkansas ... then you could video tape it and put it on the internet ... i didn't find the simple life that entertaining but i'm glad you did, are you putting anytime in behind the old xbox? seems like injuries are the prime time to perfect a certain game and then kick butt against your friends when your back and good.
its hard for me to play xbox because i just recently bought xbox live and espn nfl 2k4 to play with avnish online so it will be a while before i give that a try now. i have been playing need for speed underground. its pretty fun.

iJon

toughboy
Dec 3, 2003, 02:40 PM
my deepest condolences and prayers for you and your two friends.

God will keep your friend in heaven, resting and looking down on you, until you meet him there..

Nice to hear thar the surgery went all fine.. life will recover itself, but needs time..

looking for hearing better news from you iJon..

Doctor Q
Dec 3, 2003, 03:37 PM
Will you need any further surgery or rehab?

And how is Avkash doing?

iJon
Dec 3, 2003, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Will you need any further surgery or rehab?

And how is Avkash doing?
avkash is doing good, he goes in for xrays tomorrow, ill let you guys now about that. no further rehad for me. just take my daily medicine and creme for my eye and ill be set.i believe my school said they would freeze all my grades as they are right now for for semester and that would be that so i dont know if im going back to school before semester or not. some of my grades arent to hot so i may need to go back.

iJon

bousozoku
Dec 3, 2003, 04:36 PM
I hope things improve for you and Avkash.

They gave you eye cream? Is it chocolate or vanilla? ;)

job
Dec 3, 2003, 04:39 PM
i'm sorry to hear about what happened.

hope everything works out for you. did the police find out if another car was involved?

Doctor Q
Dec 3, 2003, 06:05 PM
From the news reports, it sounded like there was no other car, and that Jon's car lost traction where the road was wet. Given that the car rolled over and hit a tree, Jon and Avkash seem relatively fortunate to have had as few injuries as they had, especially if the car didn't have air bags.

Anyone can say that "if only the previous light had been red a few seconds longer" or "if only it hadn't rained that day" or a million other what ifs, but we all know that we can't predict or control all the factors that can create a tragic event such as this. It's helpful to remember that there are at least as many potential tragedies that don't happen, just because of chance circumstances, and be as thankful for the accidents that didn't occur as we are sorry about the ones that did.

iJon
Dec 3, 2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
From the news reports, it sounded like there was no other car, and that Jon's car lost traction where the road was wet. Given that the car rolled over and hit a tree, Jon and Avkash seem relatively fortunate to have had as few injuries as they had, especially if the car didn't have air bags.

Anyone can say that "if only the previous light had been red a few seconds longer" or "if only it hadn't rained that day" or a million other what ifs, but we all know that we can't predict or control all the factors that can create a tragic event such as this. It's helpful to remember that there are at least as many potential tragedies that don't happen, just because of chance circumstances, and be as thankful for the accidents that didn't occur as we are sorry about the ones that did.
side airbags went off and where are you getting news reports. but as for kash and i coming it, i do believe its a miracle. that is what everyone has told me who has seen my car, when i feel better i will post pictures. my smart physics friends went and looked at the crash site and by looking at my tread they said i wasnt going faster than necessary. they also said if nish was wearing a setbelt it wouldnt have done any good because i have no backseat anymore.

iJon

latergator116
Dec 3, 2003, 08:03 PM
Im really sorry. A lot of times, a person is likely to blame themselves in an accident like this, even if it isn't their fault. And it is obviously not your fault......or anyones fault for that matter.

wdlove
Dec 3, 2003, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by iJon
sugery wnt fine. doctor said it was worse than what the xray showed. my who eye socket had caved in so he replaced it with some titanium. he removed the bone from my naval cavity. im back home and have added like 5 pills to my daily intake. i had a bunch of friends come over and see me today. then i hada bunch of girls come over and they all watch simple life with me, that new show with paris hilton living in arkansas, i bet shawdowfax got as much of a kick out of it as i did. thank god i dont live in that part. ill keep you guys posted, looks like time is just what needs to come next and i think i will be in school next week.

iJon

Please be sure to get plenty of rest. Be sure that you follow doctors orders, recovery will then proceed easily. Nice to see that you have some titanium now you are a match set with the new Mac's! :p

Doctor Q
Dec 3, 2003, 10:05 PM
Two articles from last week about the car accident:

Northwest Arkansas Online Morning News (http://www.nwaonline.com/pdfarchive/2003/november/28/11-28-03%20A4.pdf) (pdf, top right corner)

Baxter Bulletin (http://www.baxterbulletin.com/news/stories/20031129/localnews/732921.html) (web page, halfway down the page)

~Shard~
Dec 3, 2003, 10:49 PM
I'm glad to hear you're in such a good mood now iJon. I can't begin to imagine what you're going through, and to be handling it as well as you are, all things considered, is amazing, and a testament to your character and inner strength.

Keep us updated and continue your recovery. All my best to you.

pseudobrit
Dec 3, 2003, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Two articles from last week about the car accident:

Northwest Arkansas Online Morning News (http://www.nwaonline.com/pdfarchive/2003/november/28/11-28-03%20A4.pdf) (pdf, top right corner)

Baxter Bulletin (http://www.baxterbulletin.com/news/stories/20031129/localnews/732921.html) (web page, halfway down the page)

Damn. Ejection = likely no seatbelt. :(
Ejection is what gets a lot of people.

Buckle up, folks.

I remember when I spun my first car. It was ice that I couldn't see and I was driving at about 50mph on a 55 highway in a light snow/sleet. My car just broke traction and started spinning clockwise. I had my brother in the car. I pumped the brakes to no avail and finally just tucked the wheels into the spin and hoped for the best. Somehow it did a 270 without hitting anything and there was no traffic behind me for a few miles. Pure luck.

It can happen to anyone at any time. Again, remember to buckle up out there.

iJon
Dec 3, 2003, 11:04 PM
my friends told me if he were wearing his seatbelt he would be dead anyways or a vegetable. i have no backseat anymore in my can.

iJon

pseudobrit
Dec 3, 2003, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by iJon
my friends told me if he were wearing his seatbelt he would be dead anyways or a vegetable. i have no backseat anymore in my can.

iJon

It's usually a toss-up. There's a slim chance that ejection will actually save your life if the circumstances are right.

Most times it's better to be buckled in. If the car is as demolished as you say though, it's likely that nothing would have helped.

Dany Heatley's Ferrari is testament to that.
The car was split in half; no amount of airbags or harnesses would have done a damn thing. Bad **** happens to good people. :(

sethypoo
Dec 3, 2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by tazo
May the Lord be with you in your time of need iJon. Keep praying, God is listening.

May the Lord be with you.

Right on.



God Bless!
We'll be glad to see/read you when you get back.

Keep us "posted."

iJon
Dec 5, 2003, 11:42 PM
i go back to the doctor monday to get the staples removed from my head and for him to check up on the post surgery stuff or whatever. kash is doing fine, they have him on a brace to prevent further spine damage while it heals. i got enough balls to look at the pictures of the car tonight. take a look for youself and decide. i have to agree with my friends when they say im one lucky son of a bitch and it was an act of god.

http://homepage.mac.com/j.taylor/PhotoAlbum4.html

iJon

Sun Baked
Dec 6, 2003, 12:01 AM
In a car crash like that, once a car starts rolling you chances of severe injury jump quite high, even with seatbelts.

Try the same trick in a SUV and nothing can help you, the roofs of SUVs generally cannot hold the weight of the vehicle. Since they meet the same standard as the much smaller cars.

It's unfortunate that the rollover death rate is climbing very fast -- seemed like it was mostly SUVs.

iJon
Dec 6, 2003, 12:04 AM
i know, and if you look at me right now it looks like i just fell off a bike or got silly with a sharp knife, same with avkash.

iJon

~Shard~
Dec 6, 2003, 12:07 AM
It does appear to be a miracle that you survived iJon - that should tell you something. Your time hasn't come yet, and God has more plans for you in your life. As hard as it is to believe sometimes, everything happens for a reason, and there is definitely a reason you are alive today.

All my best to you and your swift recovery, iJon. Take care.

voicegy
Dec 6, 2003, 01:48 AM
Your youth will pull you through this and time will heal your wounds, both within and without.

How very thoughtful of you to share this extreme event in your life with your fellow MacRumors community. The longer I'm on this site, the more special I feel it is. You warm my heart in feeling that this is one avenue that you can be assured of a sort of companionship, kinship and place to bring such a horrific incident to bear.

I'm deeply sorry for what has happend, and am gladdened that you're here and that you chose this community as one to come to in your time of need. My prayers for you and your friends' swift recovery...my heart goes out to the parents whose loss is an unimaginable burden, of which they will, if not now, in time, understand that yours is a shared burden...may peace, understanding, and complete love surround you and all involved.

God bless and keep you all.

wdlove
Dec 6, 2003, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by iJon
i go back to the doctor monday to get the staples removed from my head and for him to check up on the post surgery stuff or whatever. kash is doing fine, they have him on a brace to prevent further spine damage while it heals. i got enough balls to look at the pictures of the car tonight. take a look for youself and decide. i have to agree with my friends when they say im one lucky son of a bitch and it was an act of god.

http://homepage.mac.com/j.taylor/PhotoAlbum4.html

iJon

Thank you for sharing the pictures iJon. I agree with your friends that you are very lucky. The Lord definitely sent an angel your way.

It just goes to show the power of prayer. Is Kash still hospitalized?

iJon
Dec 7, 2003, 01:13 AM
kash is home but has a brace on. but he is still pimpin with all the girls comin to see him, just like me. i will be back at school monday, i dont think he will be. the only thing that is still bothering me is that i have some nerve damage in my face so i cant feel part of it, i also cant smile fully. but the doc said within months it will come back.

iJon

Doctor Q
Dec 7, 2003, 01:46 AM
I'm surprised you will be back at school so soon, but glad you are able to. Temporary nerve damage sounds scary, but it's true that you can recover from it. I'll bet you'll be fully smiling in no time, especially if we entertain you with hilarious medical jokes like this:

Doctor: Drink plenty of liquids.
Patient: That's all I ever drink!

pseudobrit
Dec 7, 2003, 03:03 AM
Whatever you do, don't get nerve damaged surgically repaired.

I caught a knife in the hand at 17, severed a nerve and still can't feel a quadrant of my thumb.

I had surgery to re-attach the nerve and it was a huge mistake. Lots of narcotics, intense pain and months later, I couldn't extend my arm fully and it still catches the nerve occasionally and feels like someone hit me in the funny bone -- hard. These are problems I didn't have when it was simply severed. On top of that, the nerve never regenerated and I still can't feel my thumb.

Learn to live without the feeling. If it comes back, fine. If it doesn't just deal with it the way it is. Trust me.

I doubt you'll have as much a problem as I did though; it sounds as if your damage doesn't include severed nerves.

pseudobrit
Dec 7, 2003, 03:05 AM
Oh, yeah -- keep pimpin it, man!

Get home phone numbers from the nicer chicks and get some quality dating time in when you're back on your feet!

Doctor Q
Dec 16, 2003, 04:08 PM
It's been another week, iJon. How 'bout an update on how you and Avkash are doing?

iJon
Dec 16, 2003, 06:10 PM
ive been doing good. back at school but i have been hammered with homework and finals but its not that bad. school said i can put off whatever i want until next semester but i dont feel like wasting time if i can just work a little bit harder and get it done like my friends. avkash is doing good. went and go his powerbooks replaced (they were in the car) so he has a mac to play on now. he wants to do stuff its just his brace keeps his back straight and makes it hard to walk to he is limited for the time being. went to the doctor today and he said everything was well and swelling was going down real well. let me know if there is anything else you guys want to know.

iJon

~Shard~
Dec 16, 2003, 07:51 PM
This is great news iJon - please keep us posted on your speedy recovery.

wdlove
Dec 16, 2003, 07:59 PM
Thank you for the update iJon. Very happy to hear about the progress that you are both making. I admire you for pushing yourself to finish your school work on time. Hope that you will allow for appropriate rest, listen to your body.

iJon
Jan 10, 2004, 06:07 PM
kash recently had xrays and his spine is getting better, just has to were the brace some more before its fully healed. he came to school friday and is doing real well, just like old times minus nish. im doing well too, my nerves have come back in the left side of my face and i can feel everything, left part of nose feels a little sore just because im missing a couple of milimeters of bone there, that will take time to heal, and my smile is almost fully back.

iJon

Squire
Jan 10, 2004, 07:05 PM
Great news, iJon. I hope the recovery continues going well.

Squire

~Shard~
Jan 10, 2004, 07:17 PM
Great news, iJon - I hope the rest of your recovery continues to go smoothly. Keep us posted!

wdlove
Jan 10, 2004, 08:50 PM
Thank you for the update iJon. Very happy to hear about the continued great progress that you and kash are making. After the doctors the repair, the rest just takes time, hard work, & patience. God seems to be blessing you both richly.

Doctor Q
Jan 11, 2004, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by iJon
im doing well too, my nerves have come back in the left side of my face and i can feel everything, left part of nose feels a little sore just because im missing a couple of milimeters of bone there, that will take time to heal, and my smile is almost fully back.I'm sure Julie Koehnen (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=651420#post651420) won't mind! ;)

Glad to hear you've got your sensation back again!

It's not as important as YOUR health, but what's your car situation now?

iJon
Jan 11, 2004, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
I'm sure Julie Koehnen (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=651420#post651420) won't mind! ;)

Glad to hear you've got your sensation back again!

It's not as important as YOUR health, but what's your car situation now?
my family has lots of cars, i just drive the jeep wrangler now. once all insurance gets taken care of i am aiming for a jeep liberty cause if i get another fast car ill drive fast still (i wasnt driving fast the night of the wreck, but i have put that car up to 140 before) and i also love offroading in my dads wrangler so i figured a liberty would be great, take it to moab utah and start slick rock climbing.

iJon

~Shard~
Jan 11, 2004, 10:59 PM
Way to get back on that horse iJon. :cool:

iJon
Jan 11, 2004, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by ~Shard~
Way to get back on that horse iJon. :cool:
im not scared of driving, i drove right when i got out of the hospital. my friends arent afraid to drive with me. second day back at school al the roads were all ice, and it was fun driving with the jeep, just gotta be safe. now what i do have a hard time doing is driving down the road where i wrecked, cause i see the tree that i hit and the police have white dotted lines on the pavement where my skids are. i avoid that road at all costs, just to prevent feeling bad.

iJon

~Shard~
Jan 11, 2004, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by iJon
im not scared of driving, i drove right when i got out of the hospital. my friends arent afraid to drive with me. second day back at school al the roads were all ice, and it was fun driving with the jeep, just gotta be safe. now what i do have a hard time doing is driving down the road where i wrecked, cause i see the tree that i hit and the police have white dotted lines on the pavement where my skids are. i avoid that road at all costs, just to prevent feeling bad.

iJon

Totally understandable iJon. And you're right, you should have no concerns about driving again, but some people do after an experience like that - they just can't bring themselves to it. But, you're strong and that's what I meant in my post - you didn't let this accident cripple you in other ways, such as being afraid to drive the rest of your life.

You're a strong person iJon, and I commend you for that. :cool:

iJon
Jan 11, 2004, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by ~Shard~
Totally understandable iJon. And you're right, you should have no concerns about driving again, but some people do after an experience like that - they just can't bring themselves to it. But, you're strong and that's what I meant in my post - you didn't let this accident cripple you in other ways, such as being afraid to drive the rest of your life.

You're a strong person iJon, and I commend you for that. :cool:
i think im just scared to drive kash around, it would make feel like im driving across the border with tons of drugs in the back, just be worried all the time. but what else bothers me is the nightmares i have about wrecking cars. i have already wrecked our suburban and bmw in my dreams, they are terrible. only thing that gets me through all this s*** is my blog. if anyone ever wants to read my blog just pm know and ill send you the name and pass. i keep it protected cause i dont want some of my friends reading it from school, other than that i dont care. my college english teacher got into blogging and ive been addicted ever since, if you ever wants to see what goes on in the mind of a typical high student its worth a read.

iJon

iJon
Jan 21, 2004, 05:55 PM
antother week has gone past. kash is doing good, seems real happy but may be an act, im not really sure. he is planning on going to mexico with a couple of my friends for spring break, i would be going but i decided to go with 60 of my senior friends to some other place in mexico, thought it would be much more fun. yesterday a guy at my school got in a wreck at the same place i got in mine, but he was going the opposite way. cops say he was going about 110 street racing, which doesnt surprise me. he had a crappy car that wasnt meant for racing unless modified so he wasnt the brightest. but both people are ok despite one person being ejected from the car. ive driven on that road fast before, but not near 110, thats just crazy, especially on that curve, i was stunned.

iJon

Doctor Q
Jan 21, 2004, 08:15 PM
Could they do something about that curve that would make it less dangerous?

iJon
Jan 21, 2004, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Could they do something about that curve that would make it less dangerous?
nope, but it is a scary road. going up it goes at a curve, so when you reach the peak of the hill it looks like cars are comign straight at you, pretty freaky. it just shows that speed limits are there for a reason. but a new update, ill probably be getting my new car this friday. ive been driving the jeep for 2 months now and i love it, i have it covered in mud and its a blast and it keeps me slow on the road. hopefully friday ill have my new liberty.

iJon

iJon
Jan 22, 2004, 12:34 AM
more info on the wreck, he was racing another guy from school going about 80-90 and lost control and hit a tree. the passanger was ejected and "bounced across the road" and my friend going in the other direction had to swerve to miss him. he has bleeding in his brain, broken ribs, broken teeth and more. now ill admit, i had been on that turn at close to 80 before, but i always cut through the turn lane cause no one uses it and it eased the turn up. ever year there has been a serious car wreck in my high school, its just terrible. there have already been 2 deaths at my school, 1 being avnish. its just terrible.

iJon

agreenster
Jan 22, 2004, 11:39 AM
I can't believe Ive missed this thread for 2 months.

iJon--I'm really sorry to hear about your loss. I'm praying for you and your friends family.

How's the healing? I've had some fancy face injuries in my time as well, and they usually heal up quickly. (something about more, smaller blood vessels?) Anyway, hope everything is getting better! Good luck man.

PS Sounds to me like that road is bad news. Something probably should be done. Roads get icy in Arkansas?

iJon
Jan 22, 2004, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by agreenster
Sounds to me like that road is bad news. Something probably should be done. Roads get icy in Arkansas?
yeah, but it hasnt been icey. he simply wrecked from going to fast on the road, it was dry pavement. roads were wet when i wrecked. but yeah they do get icey, but nothing a jeep cant handle ;)

iJon

wdlove
Jan 22, 2004, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by iJon
yeah, but it hasnt been icey. he simply wrecked from going to fast on the road, it was dry pavement. roads were wet when i wrecked. but yeah they do get icey, but nothing a jeep cant handle ;)

iJon

There is a winter phenomon called black ice. If the temperature gets around freezing, that's when many get suprised. It appears to be dry pavement.:(

Squire
Jan 22, 2004, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Could they do something about that curve that would make it less dangerous?

There was a turn on an on-ramp in my home town that was pretty nasty, too. Transport officials insisted that the turn was okay by regulations but people kept on wrecking their cars on it. Finally, they put in several sections of these small speed bumps. You could still drive fast over them but they were really loud and would shake the **** out of your car.

Squire

Doctor Q
Jan 22, 2004, 08:42 PM
There was an intersection in our area where there were many near-accidents. We asked the city if they could put in STOP signs and they said "not until somebody is killed".

iJon
Jan 22, 2004, 08:44 PM
thats crazy, there was another wreck at our school again today, its so weird. this wasnt a bad wreck, just someone not paying attention in the parking lot, but still, what happens when they get out of the parking lot. on the good side, i get my new car tomorrow. a 2003 red limted edition jeep liberty. i already have the lightbar, bluetooth, and grille on order, it will be great.

iJon

phreakout13
Jan 22, 2004, 10:26 PM
...:(