World's Best Kept Secret?

[Fibonacci]

Is it just me, or is the lack of solid information on the 2nd Gen iPhone the World's Best Kept Secret? You know, things no one cares about notwithstanding.

Think about the number of people who have/had access to some part of the phone - there must be thousands! Development, testing, manufacturing, packaging, 3rd party! It boggles the minds.

Clearly, divulgence carries some exceptional penalties, but shouldn't there be some minor AT&T outlet somewhere with a small cadre of disgruntled employess who intend to quit anyway - willing to photo and distribute some details?

With the manufacturing taking place in China, wouldn't there be a similar situation with at least the packaging manufacturer? A spy gets a job at the printer that produces the packaging and proceeds to photo one of the boxes.

Seriously, it almost makes me reconsider my abysmal view of conspiracy theories. "Three may keep a secret if two are dead." - Benjamin Franklin

[Tallest Skil]

The world's best kept secret is the fact that there will be MacBook Pro redesigns and the MacTablet at WWDC instead of the iPhone.

[Julien]

The world's best kept secret is...
I thought it was the faked moon landing and the fact that the earth is flat. These secrets require the involvement and coverup by 10,000's of people over many decades. :D

[geekmommy4]

I was thinking the same thing this morning. It really seems like at least one would have "fallen off the truck" somewhere in the chain, even if they have only made it as far as their distribution warehouses or the docks in San Fran.

[buccsmf1]

I agree, between the THOUSANDS of people who have access to this thing it just boggles my mind there isnt a single piece of concrete information about it.

[Chaszmyr]

I agree, between the THOUSANDS of people who have access to this thing it just boggles my mind there isnt a single piece of concrete information about it.

First, not as many people have access to the thing as you think. Second, we've probably heard concrete information, we just have no way to separate truth from falsity.

[iphone529]

What do you mean, There are so many Rumors out there. One of them is true, which probably came from a real source, the others are just rumors.

[Tallest Skil]

I agree, between the THOUSANDS of people who have access to this thing it just boggles my mind there isnt a single piece of concrete information about it.

I'd say about fifty people at Apple have seen it and ten throughout the providers worldwide.

[ipodtouchy333]

I mean seriously.... can't someone who has it just take a pic and take one for the team!

[citron230]

there are a couple times I read an article where they refer to a reliable source within apple or close to apple.

[Petoz]

Fingers crossed it is only 4 days until we know what was true and what was not. Then it is straight to the shop to buy one. :D

[Aravintht]

Part of the fun for those in the know is visiting rumor sites that they shouldn't be looking at and seeing the ludicrous ideas that people have...

If we knew all about the the iPhone do you think these forums would be so popular? or Apple would even get half the attention it receives?

[Compile 'em all]

The world's best kept secret is the fact that there will be MacBook Pro redesigns and the MacTablet at WWDC instead of the iPhone.

you fail.

[buccsmf1]

I'd say about fifty people at Apple have seen it and ten throughout the providers worldwide.

um yea, and those 60 people then fly to china to sit in the factories for months putting them together.............. :rolleyes:

[Tallest Skil]

um yea, and those 60 people then fly to china to sit in the factories for months putting them together.............. :rolleyes:

They don't care about the leaks. They would rather have a job.

[Loonytik]

Every chinese worker has a syringe of cyanide sitting next to them. If the person next to them tries to take a picture of the phone they stab them in the neck with the cyanide...

Its pretty much a requirement.

By the way, on the side of the syringe there is an :apple: logo.

[Tallest Skil]

Every chinese worker has a syringe of cyanide sitting next to them. If the person next to them tries to take a picture of the phone they stab them in the neck with the cyanide...

Its pretty much a requirement.

By the way, on the side of the syringe there is an :apple: logo.

This is unwavering truth.

[PowerFullMac]

There is no way to tell if the rumors are true until Steveo pulls one of them babies out at WWDC, one of the many rumors is probably true.

[wildcardd]

Best and Worst kept secret.

Worst:
Everyone knows a 3G is comming out. Apple hasn't had the iPhone in stock online for over a month now. ATT is now "temporarily out of stock"

Best:
Nobody really knows for sure what it has in it. Everyone is guessing at what it looks like. Some rumor photos, but nothing other than an outer shell.

In this day and age, this is as good of a secret as it gets.

[Fibonacci]

So I have definitely considered that we have already seen some detail that is accurate and the rest of the noise just confuses the issue. However, I have not seen something that is irrefutable. In other words, if you had the ability to snap a photo, couldn't/wouldn't you include some piece of concrete evidence that what was being photographed was legitimate?

In that no one has been able to provide this detail, I am inclined to believe that we have not yet seen any viable photos. It is much like the alien sightings. With all the cameras and video capabilities running around, if aliens visit the planet regularly, don't you think someone would have captured footage that doesn't look like it came from the first moving picture camera?

Frankly, if Mr. Jobs anticipates selling 11 million iPhones this year, I wouldn't put it past him to enlist a small army to design and produce phone bodies/housings that are complete decoys. For the cost of the dies, the small production runs, some air travel, and a nice big leak, it's a fun way to throw us off the scent.

[iMJustAGuy]

Is it just me, or is the lack of solid information on the 2nd Gen iPhone the World's Best Kept Secret? You know, things no one cares about notwithstanding.

Think about the number of people who have/had access to some part of the phone - there must be thousands! Development, testing, manufacturing, packaging, 3rd party! It boggles the minds.

Clearly, divulgence carries some exceptional penalties, but shouldn't there be some minor AT&T outlet somewhere with a small cadre of disgruntled employess who intend to quit anyway - willing to photo and distribute some details?

With the manufacturing taking place in China, wouldn't there be a similar situation with at least the packaging manufacturer? A spy gets a job at the printer that produces the packaging and proceeds to photo one of the boxes.

Seriously, it almost makes me reconsider my abysmal view of conspiracy theories. "Three may keep a secret if two are dead." - Benjamin Franklin



well just say i was one of those people (im not) but i said it has bla bla and bla, most people always reply and say that prolly wont happen bc bla bla and then ppl just think its a rumor but we will never know bc if they try and prove it they might reveal themselves and then of course, get fired or whatever.. they prolly have like contracts they sign to ensure the secrecy of the product.

[surfer99]

http://www.forbes.com/2008/06/05/iphone-stakeout-apple-tech-personal-cx_0605iphone.html?partner=yahootix

[wildcardd]

http://www.forbes.com/2008/06/05/iphone-stakeout-apple-tech-personal-cx_0605iphone.html?partner=yahootix

I love it. An iPhone shipping stakeout!

[surfer99]

I love it. An iPhone shipping stakeout!

Only pictures could of made this article better I think.

[geekmommy4]

http://www.forbes.com/2008/06/05/iphone-stakeout-apple-tech-personal-cx_0605iphone.html?partner=yahootix

This needs to be on the front page. That is simply great reporting!!!! :D But who is going to take it from there and stakeout some Apple and at&t stores???

[geekmommy4]

Only pictures could of made this article better I think.

Look right below the article. There is a link to the pictures. Not as impressive as the story sounds, but still fun to see!

[surfer99]

Look right below the article. There is a link to the pictures. Not as impressive as the story sounds, but still fun to see!
thanks for the heads up

[buccsmf1]

They don't care about the leaks. They would rather have a job.

i wouldnt doubt it if value of a photo of the iphone would be worth more than an entire years salary..........

[NT1440]

I'd say about fifty people at Apple have seen it and ten throughout the providers worldwide.

im sure theres only been like, what 30 people in chinese factories assemling them right?

[Niiro13]

I mean seriously.... can't someone who has it just take a pic and take one for the team!

All the people who have it are high ranking. Take one for the team? So they're gonna throw away their life job just so the community can see it before it's released?

im sure theres only been like, what 30 people in chinese factories assemling them right?

As for the Chinese workers...if you've been to China...you'd know that if a Chinese person has a camera, they would NOT be working in the factory as a assembly line worker.

[NT1440]

As for the Chinese workers...if you've been to China...you'd know that if a Chinese person has a camera, they would NOT be working in the factory as a assembly line worker.


:mad:touche

[DiamondMac]

I actually enjoy the secrets that Apple tries to keep followed by the crazy stunts that people/blogs/papers/sites pull to try and uncover the secrets

It is why I visit this site.....to read peoples reviews/opinions/rumors :)

[Tallest Skil]

i wouldnt doubt it if value of a photo of the iphone would be worth more than an entire years salary..........

What happens after that money runs out? Companies don't hire people who leak their trade secrets...

[Telp]

First, not as many people have access to the thing as you think. Second, we've probably heard concrete information, we just have no way to separate truth from falsity.

And that in itself is the point. Quite honostly, someone probably shared the information early on, and apple has probably told everyone different things, that when they release their "information" any other info is not credible. Besides, after years of that happening, nothing is credible really...


But seriuosly, yes, Apple does an amazing job keeping their information within the company. If any of you have read the Wired article on the first iPhone you'll learn a bit more about how secretive they really are.

[Telp]

This needs to be on the front page. That is simply great reporting!!!! :D But who is going to take it from there and stakeout some Apple and at&t stores???

Very interesting article. Confused how my new iPhone will fit in my pocket if its the same size as an iMac, but hey, my pockets are huge. :p

[sushi]

"Three may keep a secret if two are dead." - Benjamin Franklin
This much is true.

Apple is doing much better than before in the 90's at keeping secrets. That much is for sure.

They don't care about the leaks. They would rather have a job.
Yep.

http://www.forbes.com/2008/06/05/iphone-stakeout-apple-tech-personal-cx_0605iphone.html?partner=yahootix
Nice article. Thanks.

As for the Chinese workers...if you've been to China...you'd know that if a Chinese person has a camera, they would NOT be working in the factory as a assembly line worker.
So true.

[bacaramac]

Every chinese worker has a syringe of cyanide sitting next to them. If the person next to them tries to take a picture of the phone they stab them in the neck with the cyanide...

Its pretty much a requirement.

By the way, on the side of the syringe there is an :apple: logo.

No, no, no. It is like the movie American Gangster where all the girls have to work naked so they can't steal any drugs. Same goes here, they all have to work naked, this means cells phones and cameras are left at the door. :D

EDIT: I just hope I don't find any curly hairs in my new phone. Sorry guys, I know, to much info.

[sushi]

Same goes here, they all have to work naked, this means cells phones and cameras are left at the door. :D
Just imagining that... :D

[steveleepete]

come to think of it, Apple is one of the best companies when it comes to keeping new products on the secretive side of things. in the past, less than 1% of the apple addicts had any idea of the ipod video, ipod classic, macbook, ipodtouch, IPHONE, and even smaller concepts such as the isight.

as i stare at the original ipod sitting on my desk, i remember the first time i brought it to school a few days after its release. no one even had a clue what an mp3 player was! 5 years of innovation=the iphone...and with it the damn anticipation mixed with unvieling falacies. its all fun and games but can it please be monday already......

[Ish]

I think it's fun not knowing, reading up on the rumours and trying to guess. The keynote on Monday wouldn't be half as much fun if we knew exactly what it was going to be!

Maybe the other boxes aren't Apple's at all, but from someone who promises to send the goods in a plain brown envelope, I mean box! :rolleyes:

[nick9191]

The worlds best kept secret is hundreds of millions of children believing a fat old man in a red suit climbs down their chimney every 24th December.

[luffytubby]

worlds best kept secret is that the devil fooled everyone to thinking that he doesnt excist.



also... elvis had sex with simon cowell and they got a child named Bill O'reiley.

[luffytubby]

The worlds best kept secret is hundreds of millions of children believing a fat old man in a red suit climbs down their chimney every 24th December.

DON'T YOU DARE! DON'T YOU DARE SAY HIS NAME *SOBS* YOU DON'T GOT THE RIGHT! YOU DON'T GOT THE RIGHT!!


Arrghhhhrrtthhhh *squeels of agony* ARRARAAAAACHHGHGHHGGAAAA *inflecting pain on myself" RARRRRrrreerrrreAAAQQRrrrrrr...

[yoyo5280]

Is it just me, or is the lack of solid information on the 2nd Gen iPhone the World's Best Kept Secret? You know, things no one cares about notwithstanding.

Think about the number of people who have/had access to some part of the phone - there must be thousands! Development, testing, manufacturing, packaging, 3rd party! It boggles the minds.


On the original iPhone, people at the company didn't even see the original design! It was apparently put into a FAKE case before the release.

[Fibonacci]

On the original iPhone, people at the company didn't even see the original design! It was apparently put into a FAKE case before the release.

DING! DING! DING! You got it! All these photos of the "Black Back" are ruse cases! Hence the confusion around thickness. The ruse back is chubbier, but the REAL 3G iPhone is slimmer! It may also explain the possibly cheap looking "Black Back" - IT'S A DECOY!

omigod, omigod, omigod...is it Monday yet?!

[Compile 'em all]

Very interesting article. Confused how my new iPhone will fit in my pocket if its the same size as an iMac, but hey, my pockets are huge. :p

You know that one brown box of these can contain several iPhones.

[gloss]

You know that one brown box of these can contain several iPhones.

Lies.

[PowerFullMac]

On the original iPhone, people at the company didn't even see the original design! It was apparently put into a FAKE case before the release.

Really? Cool!

Man, those guys are smart!

Its not long now people, hopefully the attached picture will keep you calm!

[Telp]

Really? Cool!

Man, those guys are smart!

Its not long now people, hopefully the attached picture will keep you calm!

Yes they are. If your in for a good read.


http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/magazine/16-02/ff_iphone

[sagew]

I thought it was the faked moon landing and the fact that the earth is flat. These secrets require the involvement and coverup by 10,000's of people over many decades. :D

Fake lunar landing might actually be true...honestly some crazy evidence.

[Justinerator]

Yes they are. If your in for a good read.


http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/magazine/16-02/ff_iphone

You're certainly right! That was a good read! Thanks for that Telp. :D

[Ish]

Yes they are. If your in for a good read.


http://www.wired.com/gadgets/wireless/magazine/16-02/ff_iphone

I enjoyed that. Very interesting. Many thanks!