Larger or Smaller Touchscreen Device from Apple?

[MacRumors]

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As reported by Appleinsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/06/05/larger_apple_multi_touch_devices_move_beyond_prototype_stage.html), American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu informed clients that he believed there was a 50-50 chance that Apple would introduce new form factor multi-touch devices at WWDC next week. Our sources indicate 4-inch and 7-inch touchscreen devices beyond prototype stage that are a cross between a Mac and iPod touch.Of course, Wu says the exact timing is unclear. This simply adds to existing rumors that Apple is working on a mini-tablet or Newton-like device. Of note, Intel did officially introduce its low power Atom processor this week. The Atom processor has been rumored to be under consideration by Apple for use in an upcoming mini-tablet device.

Meanwhile, TUAW claims (http://www.tuaw.com/2008/06/05/rumor-mac-os-x-10-5-4-to-be-released-2nd-week-in-june/) that Apple will even release Mac OS X 10.5.4 in mid June, only weeks behind 10.5.3 in order to support Mobile Me as well as a new piece of Apple hardware. Such a quick release for another version of Mac OS X would be unprecedented, though TUAW claims the news came from a "reliable" source. Of course, Apple has already started seeding (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/05/apple-seeds-first-version-of-mac-os-x-10-5-4-to-developers/) versions of Mac OS X 10.5.4 as of yesterday.

Finally, iLounge publishes (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/backstage/comments/is-this-the-new-iphones-touchscreen/) photos of what is claimed to be photos of new 3.2" and 2.8" screens to be used in future iPhones. the first pictures and diagrams of a touchscreen display that a Taiwanese company claims is being used in an upcoming iPhone. It’s a 2.8” display—shown here alongside a newer 3.2” version—two sizes that would enable Apple to start shrinking both iPhones and touchscreen iPods from the current 3.5” screen size found in its first-generation models.Despite the photos, iLounge believes there is "zero chance" that the smaller 2.8" screen would be used in the 3G iPhone expected next week, but considers the possibility that Apple may introduce new form factors in the future.

WWDC kicks off on Monday, June 9th. MacRumors.com will be providing live coverage of the keynote speech.


Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/05/larger-or-smaller-touchscreen-device-from-apple/)

[pik.]

pleaseeeeeeeee......give as a Mac-Touch -Pad whatever....:p:D

at 1000Euros I ll take two!!!!!!:rolleyes:

come on apple....YOU can do it.....:o

[D4F]

I don't want nothing smaller then the current iPhone.

[eme jota ce]

I'm buying two on Monday, even if they don't go on sale by then.

[decimortis]

I don't want nothing smaller then the current iPhone.

So you're saying you'd like EVERYTHING to be smaller than the current iPhone?

jk ;)

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

Give me a killer ebook-newton and Apple has all my money!

[Santa Rosa]

Those iLounge pictures look very dodgy.

Its difficult to see even with multi touch Apple wanting to go back into the sort of Newtonesk market again. The iPhone is just the right midpoint from having no computer, to having a laptop with you. Thats how it sits in that range so nicely. Anything bigger than that, but smaller than a laptop I dont see as really fitting in so good.

Then again it could be El Jobso's hobby project 2.

[SkippyThorson]

I'm buying two on Monday, even if they don't go on sale by then.

:D I want a tablet - I'm thinking the same way. I'll place orders for them. Even if they're in prototype. :D

[dizastor]

If they make a larger touchscreen I want a stylus for drawing.

[CaryMacGuy]

We must remember that the keynote is only 1 1/2 hours. We are running out of time to introduce all these new products.

[IJ Reilly]

A 50-50 chance -- talk about hedging your bets. Shaw Wu is really going out on a limb this time! There's a 50-50 chance of anything happening, either it does or it doesn't.

[SAMTATSICPRO]

I want a Multi touch 42'' HD Cinema display with new design.

[twoodcc]

wow. this might just happen. looking forward to finding out the details on Monday

[gkarris]

Last night - thought to myself, "My MacBook is awesome, but still a bit too large for doing some basic stuff..."

This morning - thought to myself, "My iPhone is awesome, but still a bit too small for doing some basic stuff..."

As reported by Appleinsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/06/05/larger_apple_multi_touch_devices_move_beyond_prototype_stage.html), American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu informed clients that he believed there was a 50-50 chance that Apple would introduce new form factor multi-touch devices at WWDC next week. Of course, Wu says the exact timing is unclear. This simply adds to existing rumors that Apple is working on a mini-tablet or Newton-like device. Of note, Intel did officially introduce it's low power Atom processor this week. The Atom processor has been rumored to be under consideration by Apple for use in an upcoming mini-tablet device.

:eek:

(breathe, must remember to breathe....)

Coincidence with upgrade to 2.0 for the iPhone/Touch?

[Santa Rosa]

A 50-50 chance -- talk about hedging your bets. Shaw Wu is really going out on a limb this time! There's a 50-50 chance of anything happening, either it does or it doesn't.

That is so true lol. They must have so much confidence in his judgments.

Why doesnt he just come out, put his hands up and say "hey, guys, I really actually have no clue" :)

[bmcgrath]

Hmmmm :D

[blur35mm]

Newton cometh...wifi and bluetooth for web access with your 3G in your pocket. My speculation anyway...

[APPLENEWBIE]

A 50-50 chance -- talk about hedging your bets. Shaw Wu is really going out on a limb this time! There's a 50-50 chance of anything happening, either it does or it doesn't.

Thats what I was just thinking! WU: "Apple may or may not introduce a new gadget." I guess that's what he gets the big bucks for...

[louden]

Bring it! They won't introduce new MBPs because Montevina is delayed, but they'll introduce a 5x7 tablet device on the Atom processor that will run some trimmed down version of OSX!

Bring it! and not for 1000 Euros! More like $600 tops!

[macmike47]

Well I believe there's a 50/50 chance that Apple may or may not introduce either a tablet and/or 1-2 other new devices at WWDC.

Now will somebody pay me :cool:

[happyjaxx]

I want (and predict (http://jaxx.org/2008/05/30/un-mac-umpc/)) something with the iPhone like the Foleo was to a PalmTreo...

Actually, I'm sure Palm sold the Foleo hardware to Apple :-)

[Smin]

I think if they were going to release something that big they would have the media there.

[Virgil-TB2]

... Our sources indicate 4-inch and 7-inch touchscreen devices beyond prototype stage that are a cross between a Mac and iPod touch.I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! :eek:

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

[jbernie]

Although not necessarily in the market for an iPhone one of the attractions is the screen size vs Blackberry devices etc, the larger screen size makes web surfing on the device more practical.

[dizastor]

I think if they were going to release something that big they would have the media there.

I think the media attends Macworld and WWDC. They are pretty big events.

[infowarfare]

Newton cometh...wifi and bluetooth for web access with your 3G in your pocket. My speculation anyway...

I really wish people would stop speculating on a new Newton... the iPhone and the iPod Touch IS the Newton replacement. About the same size and form factor but way more advanced and everything you just mentioned (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.) is already there.

If Apple does release another touch based device, it will either be a Tablet (12 or 13 inch multitouch screen possibly called the Macbook Touch) or a smaller cheaper iPhone nano, but a Newton is already what the iPhone is. In other words, to be clear, the iPhone is the evolutionary descendant of the Newton. How much different could a new Newton be than what the iPhone already is?

:rolleyes:

[Tallest Skil]

...a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! That means square...

Why? The iPhone's 3.5" screen isn't 1.75" square...

[dizastor]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! :eek:

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."


Why does 4 inch mean 2x2 square???

I would think it's measured diagonally, the same way all screens have been measured for 30 years... Widescreen, four inches from bottom right corner to upper left corner.

[GroundLoop]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! :eek:

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

More like 2.65" x 3". The 4" refers to the diagonal...not 4sqare inches in area.

Hickman

[moesker007]

I really wish people would stop speculating on a new Newton... the iPhone and the iPod Touch IS the Newton replacement. About the same size and form factor but way more advanced and everything you just mentioned (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.) is already there.

If Apple does release another touch based device, it will either be a Tablet (12 or 13 inch multitouch screen possibly called the Macbook Touch) or a smaller cheaper iPhone nano, but a Newton is already what the iPhone is. In other words, to be clear, the iPhone is the evolutionary descendant of the Newton. How much different could a new Newton be than what the iPhone already is?

:rolleyes:

I agree 100%.

[Hard-Hat-Mac]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! :eek:

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

They measure screen size via diagonal screen measurement. your 32' TV etc. device it's self would probably be 3 x 4.5

[ArtOfWarfare]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only!

no, you're mixing up area with diagonals.

a"^2+b"^2=4"^2 if the screen is 4".

So a^2+b^2=16

2 by 2 wouldn't work because that would be 4+4=8.

And they're probably rounding to 4.

I'd say it's closer to... 2x3.5 which would be... 4+12.25=16.25... square root is ... 4.03 which they round down to 4".

So 4" diagonally is probably about 2" by 3.5".

Looks like Apple will have some interesting new gadgets to show off...

[wakerider017]

"Larger or smaller..."

"50-50 chance..."

This site is starting to sound like my local weatherman!

[Leopard=God]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! :eek:

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

I find this to be hilarious 4" refers to the diagonal length of the screen not the area of the screen. So if it were to be 4" diagonally, this new device would have a screen slightly larger than the current iPhone's. My guess is that they will be releasing a remote that can be paired up with the Apple TV that would use that screen. For what? No clue.

[abijnk]

You know, I am all about the rumor-mongering and everything, but these reports are starting to be so all over the place it makes me wonder if Apple really IS putting out false information to stir the pot...

[sfroom]

A 50-50 chance -- talk about hedging your bets. Shaw Wu is really going out on a limb this time! There's a 50-50 chance of anything happening, either it does or it doesn't.

Your logic is not correct. 50-50 does not mean "anything can happen", it means that it's EQUALLY likely to happen as it is to not happen.

If I told you they were releasing 20 GHZ Mac Pro's with 64 GB of ram for $999 tomorrow, would you tell me "There's a 50-50 chance"?

If you had asked someone yesterday what the chances were Apple would be releasing a 7" touchscreen device, most people would have said "0%". Saying 50-50 is saying a lot...the writer is clearly going out on a limb, indicating it's fairly likely we might see this device.

However, I'm not sure I believe him.

[Ugg]

A 50-50 chance -- talk about hedging your bets. Shaw Wu is really going out on a limb this time! There's a 50-50 chance of anything happening, either it does or it doesn't.

Hey! It's a binary world, what do you expect!

[rckstwrz]

I really wish people would stop speculating on a new Newton... the iPhone and the iPod Touch IS the Newton replacement. About the same size and form factor but way more advanced and everything you just mentioned (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.) is already there.

If Apple does release another touch based device, it will either be a Tablet (12 or 13 inch multitouch screen possibly called the Macbook Touch) or a smaller cheaper iPhone nano, but a Newton is already what the iPhone is. In other words, to be clear, the iPhone is the evolutionary descendant of the Newton. How much different could a new Newton be than what the iPhone already is?

:rolleyes:

I completely agree with you. It would be completely un-Apple to re-release the Newton. I think a MacBook Touch is far more likely, maybe not next week, but within the next couple years.

On that note, remember how long rumors circulated about the iPhone? I think the earliest post I found just by Googling it was from 2004. I wonder if the whole Mac Tablet idea won't bear any fruit for a few more years.

[Leopard=God]

You know, I am all about the rumor-mongering and everything, but these reports are starting to be so all over the place is makes me wonder if Apple really IS putting out false information to stir the pot...

How would Apple benefit from that? I think we've had this discussion before. It's not like "Hey everyone let's release information on a product that's better than the one we're actually making so people can get their hopes up and then get letdown when the device actually comes out" That would be the most retarded business strategy ever. If they were trying to get more people to attend WWDC that would make sense but I'm pretty sure they don't have a problem with participation. I think it's just Apple working on prototypes for future products that will come out after WWDC not any time soon. I wish these rumors would stop popping up considering that only the iPhone 2 will be released at WWDC (or at least that's what I think)

[mainstreetmark]

I'm a self-certified expert in shady photographs, and I can say, in my self-certified expert opinion that they are in fact the same size. Only, one is farther away.

End of discussion.

See ya'll on monday.

[moveteam]

You know, I am all about the rumor-mongering and everything, but these reports are starting to be so all over the place it makes me wonder if Apple really IS putting out false information to stir the pot...
Yeaah:

iPhone thinner 3G, GPS, video
iPhone thicker 3G, GPS
iPhone thicker 3G
iPhoner thinner nothing
iPhone sligthly thinner than the first rumoured thicker iPhone
iPhone 4"
iPhone/Newton 7"

OMG :p

[moveteam]

How would Apple benefit from that? I think we've had this discussion before. It's not like "Hey everyone let's release information on a product that's better than the one we're actually making so people can get their hopes up and then get letdown when the device actually comes out" That would be the most retarded business strategy ever. If they were trying to get more people to attend WWDC that would make sense but I'm pretty sure they don't have a problem with participation. I think it's just Apple working on prototypes for future products that will come out after WWDC not any time soon. I wish these rumors would stop popping up considering that only the iPhone 2 will be released at WWDC (or at least that's what I think)
Think about it, yesterday a rumor turned up which claimed the iPhone would only has 3G as an addition, if all expect that we will get surprised in a positive way when we figure out it has 3G, GPS, video etc. ;)

[hueyproductions]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! :eek:

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

Um, that's not what that means, actually. Might wanna touch up on your Pythagorean theorem buddy.

[ppdix]

:d

[Full of Win]

I'll believe it when I see it. I'd assume they would have a special event for this or do it in January 09 and not take away from the buzz that will be the version 2 iPhone.

[slick50zd1]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! :eek:

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

Idk where you came up with that but screens are measured Diagonally, so assuming a 4 inch screen with the same aspect ratio as the iPhone, 4 inches diagonal would translate into roughly 2.2 x 3.3 inches

(x^2 + y^2 = z^2; y = 1.5x) In this case Z is either 4 or 7

Applying the same formula to the rumored larger 7 in diagonal version we get approx 3.9 x 5.85 inches

Its important to note that with a different aspect ratio these numbers would change (as seen I used 1.5:1). a square however would provide the greatest visible area.... hmm

[NT1440]

i feel like at this point I cant even stand anymore of the rumors, yea they are fun but i have this knot in my stomach everytime a new rumor surfaces. I think im going to stop reading the rumors if i can. Hell, im not even interested in the friggin phone and i cant stop myself from wondering.

[louden]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! :eek:


I find it ironic that someone quoting Einstein can't even figure our the length of the hypotenuse of a right triangle...

2 x 2?

let's see: a squared + b squared = c squared
- or 4 + 4 = 8

so the size of the screen on your 2 x 2 device is ~2.8, not 4. Whatever happened to no child left behind?

[FunkyJunk]

a square however would provide the greatest visible area.... hmm

No, it wouldn't. Did everyone here skip geometry class to get high under the bleachers?

[Donz0r]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! :eek:

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

If this is for a phone, then it seems it has to be a Blackberry form factor with a physical keyboard beneath the screen. It's more likely that this is some kind of souped up Apple remote IMO.

Um... 4 inches diagonal is not 2in x 2 in, more like 3x3 if it's a square. The current iPhone has a 3.5 inch screen...

[Muncher]

You realize the screen will not only not be square, it will also have a specific width to height ratio, depending on the resolution.

[mogzieee]

Don't like the idea. But thats a personal view. I think it's too... tacky... for Apple. It wouldn't be like an ALL NEW, ALL AMAZING product... PDA's have been around since I was a kid (long time ago...). Not many people would buy it because Apple would put some high price on it, like most products....

[Littleodie914]

No, it wouldn't. Did everyone here skip geometry class to get high under the bleachers?Actually...

It would, but I think you're misunderstanding his point. I think he's referring to the idea (bear with me) that if you have 40 yards of fencing, then to get the biggest area in your fence you would build a 10yd by 10yd fence, which is in fact a square, and gives you 100 square yards of space. :D

[stagi]

I really like the current size and wouldn't want any smaller.

[FunkyJunk]

Actually...

It would, but I think you're misunderstanding his point. I think he's referring to the idea (bear with me) that if you have 40 yards of fencing, then to get the biggest area in your fence you would build a 10yd by 10yd fence, which is in fact a square, and gives you 100 square yards of space. :D

A 1x100yd fence fence gives you exactly 100 square yards of space too. What are you talking about? There's no "40 yards of fencing" rule here.

[Surely]

I like the current size too.

Smaller just means you have to scroll around and zoom in more often when you're reading.

Now, thinner would be interesting, but only if it would still be as solid-feeling. I like the weight and the feel of the iPhone as it is.

Next week will be fun. I'm more excited for the App Store than for the new phone.

[Muncher]

Actually...

It would, but I think you're misunderstanding his point. I think he's referring to the idea (bear with me) that if you have 40 yards of fencing, then to get the biggest area in your fence you would build a 10yd by 10yd fence, which is in fact a square, and gives you 100 square yards of space. :D

No, you'd get 100 sq yards inside for a square. You could get the BIGGEST area if you made a circle: ~127 sq. yards.

Pwnage.

[Mugs]

Well there's also a 50-50 chance of a....G6 Powerbook!!!! :eek: We've skipped G5 by now.:D

[bobbleheadbob]

What time do you think people will start lining up outside the Apple stores in anticipation of the new iPhones, iTablets, iTouchs, iMacs, iPods, and/or iWhatevers?

Does anyone think that something new and exciting will actually be on sale and available for purchase immediately following the Keynote on Monday?

There's an :apple: store directly across the street from my office, and if something new (especially the iPhone) gets released, I'm heading over there ASAP! :D

[abijnk]

How would Apple benefit from that? I think we've had this discussion before. It's not like "Hey everyone let's release information on a product that's better than the one we're actually making so people can get their hopes up and then get letdown when the device actually comes out" That would be the most retarded business strategy ever. If they were trying to get more people to attend WWDC that would make sense but I'm pretty sure they don't have a problem with participation. I think it's just Apple working on prototypes for future products that will come out after WWDC not any time soon. I wish these rumors would stop popping up considering that only the iPhone 2 will be released at WWDC (or at least that's what I think)

Read (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/02/3g-thinner-better-battery-rumors-and-more/) the second to last sentence my dear... Its not up for debate, Apple HAS done it in the past.

[SkippyThorson]

Um... 4 inches diagonal is not 2in x 2 in, more like 3x3 if it's a square. The current iPhone has a 3.5 inch screen...

So the entire device would be the screen of an iPod Nano. Who'd complain about bulk then? ;)

[dstrauss]

I just wanted to add my 2 cents worth on the shrinking screen:

DON'T DO IT :eek:

Okay, at least not on the mainstream iPhone line. A lesser-featured "nano iPhone" might be acceptable, but it is exactly the 3.5" web experience that drives many users to the iPhone. I was sick and tired of the WinMobile spate of 2.8" phones - the web experience, even the regular software experience, sucks to say the least. Video is a blessing on that gorgeous 3.5" landscape screen - don't tinker with this form factor success.

[slick50zd1]

A 1x100yd fence fence gives you exactly 100 square yards of space too. What are you talking about? There's no "40 yards of fencing" rule here.

Actually there is, giving a set diagonal of the screen this requires that the "perimeter" of the screen must in fact be constant.

You can see the proof of my claim here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080423173845AAcK462

So please don't tell me I ditched geometry to get high, I just passed Calc 3 a week ago. :)
You should know your stuff before telling other people that they don't know theirs ;)

[sfroom]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! :eek:

I'm sorry, this has to be pointed out...a 4" screen only = 2"x2" when the screen has a 1:1 aspect ration. I've never seen an LCD with a 1x1 aspect ratio.

I believe the iPod touch and iPhone have 3:2 screens, so that would mean a 4" multitouch device would have a 2.22"x3.33" screen. Good ol' trigonometry and pythagorean theorem.

[Donz0r]

A 1x100yd fence fence gives you exactly 100 square yards of space too. What are you talking about? There's no "40 yards of fencing" rule here.

He said that a square yields the largest area given the diagonal dimension... that's correct.

[Santa Rosa]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! :eek:

That means square and it means that it won't be able to display the typical home screen of the iPhone, or the soft keyboard, or web pages etc. without some incredibly ugly "shoe-horning."

Time for a quick Pythagoras lesson :D

Going by your square screen idea, it would not be 2 by 2 taking the original dimension of 4 inches to be a diagonal measurement as the standard as arised (although thats another story all together).

A 2 inch by 2 inch would infact using pythagorus theorem be:

SQRT(2^2 + 2^2) = 2.8 inches diagonal, not 4 as you said :) easy mistake though.

So to derive a 4 inch diagonal screen and also working with your premesis that it will be square (which is also a bit off lol) you need to work backwards.

SQRT (X^2 + X^2) = 4

This equates X to equal 2.828 inches. Thus the actual square screen size would be 2.828 inches wide by 2.828 inches high.

So this logic can then be applied to the 7 inch diagonal screen and then you would get the square width and height dimensions.

So looking at this in a more iPhone-esk mannor we would have to take into account the orignal iPhones native aspect ratio.

So 7.5cm / 5.2cm gives an aspect ratio of 1.442:1

Applying this to the 4 inch diagonal screen rumored and also speculating that the aspect ratio will stay the same gives the following calculation:

SQRT (1.442xX^2 + X^2) = 4

This equates X to be 2.56 inches wide, then multiplying by 1.442 to get 3.691 inches high. Those would then be the rough dimensions of a 4 inch device at the aspect ratio of 1.442:1

Thus for a 7 inch device at that same aspect ratio we derive:

SQRT (1.442xX^2 + X^2) = 7

Which equates X to be 4.48 inches wide, multiplied by 1.442 to give a height of 6.46 inches.

The proof of this concept can be proven through the dimensions of the original iPhone:

SQRT (1.44231xX^2 + X^2) = 9cm (Going metric this time!!)

This equates X to 5.759 cm wide, then multiplying by 1.442 we get a height of 8.3 cm.

Its not exact, for some reason my calculations are coming out not quite right. Might be rounding but it is pretty darn close!! :D

Class dismissed :rolleyes: :)

[slick50zd1]

Time for a quick Pythagoras lesson :D

Going by your square screen idea, it would not be 2 by 2 taking the original dimension of 4 inches to be a diagonal measurement as the standard as arised (although thats another story all together).

A 2 inch by 2 inch would infact using pythagorus theorem be:

SQRT(2^2 + 2^2) = 2.8 inches diagonal, not 4 as you said :) easy mistake though.

So to derive a 4 inch diagonal screen and also working with your premesis that it will be square (which is also a bit off lol) you need to work backwards.

SQRT (X^2 + X^2) = 4

This equates X to equal 2.828 inches. Thus the actual square screen size would be 2.828 inches wide by 2.828 inches high.

So this logic can then be applied to the 7 inch diagonal screen and then you would get the square width and height dimensions.

So looking at this in a more iPhone-esk mannor we would have to take into account the orignal iPhones native aspect ratio.

So 7.5cm / 5.2cm gives an aspect ratio of 1.442:1

Applying this to the 4 inch diagonal screen rumored and also speculating that the aspect ratio will stay the same gives the following calculation:

SQRT (1.442xX^2 + X^2) = 4

This equates X to be 2.56 inches wide, then multiplying by 1.442 to get 3.691 inches high. Those would then be the rough dimensions of a 4 inch device at the aspect ratio of 1.442:1

Thus for a 7 inch device at that same aspect ratio we derive:

SQRT (1.442xX^2 + X^2) = 7

Which equates X to be 4.48 inches wide, multiplied by 1.442 to give a height of 6.46 inches.

The proof of this concept can be proven through the dimensions of the original iPhone:

SQRT (1.44231xX^2 + X^2) = 9cm (Going metric this time!!)

This equates X to 5.759 cm wide, then multiplying by 1.442 we get a height of 8.3 cm.

Its not exact, for some reason my calculations are coming out not quite right. Might be rounding but it is pretty darn close!! :D

Class dismissed :rolleyes: :)

Nice math but its already been discussed :)
We are just going in circles now... or should I say... squares? haha

[fly75]

No, you'd get 100 sq yards inside for a square. You could get the BIGGEST area if you made a circle: ~127 sq. yards.

Pwnage.

So Apple is rushing 10.5.4 to include a polar coordinate system to support the new circular screens?;)

[mr.light]

Nice math but its already been discussed :)
We are just going in circles now... or should I say... squares? haha

No. It's circles now. Someone did mention a circle somewhere in this mess. I definitely read that. ;)

[Santa Rosa]

Nice math but its already been discussed :)
We are just going in circles now... or should I say... squares? haha

Realised that after I had posted it lol, took so long to type it all out.

It does address the aspect ratio point a bit more though :)

[Littleodie914]

No, you'd get 100 sq yards inside for a square. You could get the BIGGEST area if you made a circle: ~127 sq. yards.

Pwnage.*sigh*

Apple's not making a circular screen.

And to another previous poster, I know there's no "fencing rule", but that's the thinking that the poster who had made the original comment had said, I was just defending his logic, had there been a fencing rule.

[izzle22]

Nice math but its already been discussed :)
We are just going in circles now... or should I say... squares? haha



Amen! Can we move on now? Please.

[slick50zd1]

Realised that after I had posted it lol, took so long to type it all out.

It does address the aspect ratio point a bit more though :)

Yah yours is a better explanation I kinda just rushed mine out. I also used 1.5:1 which probably isn't 100% accurate either :)

Either way nice job, its nice to see that there are at least few people who can still understand math. And a few pranksters with their circular screens and what not :rolleyes:

[massew1]

How about they just launch a smaller iphone that fits in the consumer product...
juste like macbook or ipod nano.

A cheaper iphone with just the essential software.
And compatible with any services distributor

And launches right away in canada

[morespce54]

A 50-50 chance -- talk about hedging your bets. Shaw Wu is really going out on a limb this time! There's a 50-50 chance of anything happening, either it does or it doesn't.

Right. That's what I thought...
Well, there is a 50-50 chance that I will like what Apple will be introducing on Monday... ;)

[nintyuser]

I can see apple putting out a 7 inch touch screen portable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverthorne_(CPU)

That is a powerful enough processor to run OS X fully. It would be between a macbook and iphone.

But it's been on and off with stuff coming out about a 7inch touchscreen portable. But from other devices that are pictured running the atom processor it looks like apple could squeeze a logic board and everything else into it.

I would buy it if it runs leopard fully.

[izzle22]

I would guess that if this is anything it may be more of a media controller for airtunes and Apple tv. I would love to be able to scroll through my iTunes library on a devise like this and be able to surf the web and control the Apple tv with the same device.

[NT1440]

I can see apple putting out a 7 inch touch screen portable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverthorne_(CPU)

That is a powerful enough processor to run OS X fully. It would be between a macbook and iphone.

But it's been on and off with stuff coming out about a 7inch touchscreen portable. But from other devices that are pictured running the atom processor it looks like apple could squeeze a logic board and everything else into it.

I would buy it if it runs leopard fully.
Frankly, as much as I know several users of this site want one, I just don't see a real market for one anytime soon. Then again apple is very good at TELLING us what we want:apple:

[flyguy451]

A 50-50 chance -- talk about hedging your bets. Shaw Wu is really going out on a limb this time! There's a 50-50 chance of anything happening, either it does or it doesn't.


Actually, no, just because there are two possible outcomes does not imply that they are equally likely to happen.

[-hh]

The 4" and/or 7" claims are interesting in that what came to mind for me was the Amazon Kindle device.

Time to go hit the search engines to see what Steve Jobs has said about the Kindle.

...okay, it looks like a very brief and dismissive "people don't read anymore" claim. Kind of fooled me, since looking at a webpage typically requires reading. Plus isn't there arguably a future in electronic newspaper subscriptions? WiFi connection...hmmm!


In any event, the Kindle is $360 a copy ... within striking distance of an iPod Touch (8GB = $299)...and with Multi-Touch capability, the Apple variation is much more likely to have a nicer UI.

...plus it will likely technically be a member of the 'iPod family', so it can still do music, etc.


-hh

[SAMTATSICPRO]

How about iPhone 3G Black GPS, Video Conferencing and All Glass.
The Apple Logo on the Back Lights up when talking.

[Santa Rosa]

How about they just launch a smaller iphone that fits in the consumer product...
juste like macbook or ipod nano.

Cant say I have ever tried to fit a Macbook in my pocket. That would have to be a serious pair of pants you were wearing :rolleyes: :)

BIG STYLE EDIT: First off, an apology on my behalf for making fun, it has well and truly backfired lol :) I read it as pocket, not product as you had typed!!

Sorry for that one, yes yes let the mocking begin ;(

[iSee]

...Shaw Wu informed clients that he believed there was a 50-50 chance...

A "50-50" chance, eh?

Translation from analyst-speak to English: "I have no idea what's going to happen at WWDC next week."

[slick50zd1]

Actually thinking about it, approx 7 in would be pretty cool...

But it does bring a slight problem it is too big for a pants pocket which means I would have to bring some sort of case with me everywhere... a tiny case?

That or I guess you could just ditch the case and flaunt it constantly :D

[veeco3110]

Honestly I think us macheads are getting a bit over our heads.

So far in a hour and a half we have
-a new iPhone
-new apps for the app store
-sneak peak at a new OSX
-a touch screen tablet

I'm probably missing somethings. But to me it doesn't seem long enough of a time frame to show the major points to these things.

Oh and really with the math stuff guys? Calm down. This is a forum for tech dorks not math dorks

[earnjam]

I wish everyone would read through to the last page before posting.

I've seen enough of the same posts talking about geometry, trigonometry and probability that I feel like I'm in high school again... :rolleyes:

In regards to the rumors, I find it interesting that as we get closer to Monday, new "evidence" conveniently comes out every day. You all understand that most of these websites make money by getting as much traffic as possible right?

[Brianstorm91]

Wow, with a screen that size just a poke of the finger could do 10 tasks at once, this'll speed everything up!

What a load of rubbish. Next.

[BOSS10L]

Ooh, ooh...My turn...

I'm going to make a bold 50/50 prediction that Steve Jobs will introduce something new at WDC on Monday. And that he may or may not personally hand-deliver one to me.

Now, where do I send my resume? :rolleyes:

[iMikeT]

As reported by Appleinsider, American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu informed clients that he believed there was a 50-50 chance that Apple would introduce new form factor multi-touch devices at WWDC next week.



There's always a 50/50 chance on anything.

I guess by saying that there's a 50/50 chance on this would be his "get out of jail free card" once people realize that he, like many other people who prey on rumors and speculation, is clearly talking out of his ass. :rolleyes:

[Santa Rosa]

Oh and really with the math stuff guys? Calm down. This is a forum for tech dorks not math dorks

I can probably talk for many of the forum members here in saying that we would not call ourselves dorks.

Also do you not really see any crossover between the two, not even a tiny itty bitty lol :rolleyes: :D

[slick50zd1]

Oh and really with the math stuff guys? Calm down. This is a forum for tech dorks not math dorks

Yah I'm proud to be both :)

[flyguy451]

There's always a 50/50 chance on anything.




Nope, just because there are two possible outcomes does not mean that the chances are 50/50, for example; the Sun might rise tomorrow or it might not - would you give this a 50/50 chance?

[NT1440]

I can probably talk for many of the forum members here in saying that we would not call ourselves dorks.

Also do you not really see any crossover between the two, not even a tiny itty bitty lol :rolleyes: :D
wait, we aren't dorks now? :confused:

and yes, that math bit on the other page was getting rediculous.

Personally i love the form factor of the current iphone in terms of screen size, tho she could lose a little of that junk in the trunk if you know what i mean.

[Santa Rosa]

that junk in the trunk if you know what i mean.

You must have a seriously deformed iPhone lol :rolleyes: :D

[NT1440]

You must have a seriously deformed iPhone lol :rolleyes: :D

HAHA actually, I don't even have A cellphone, let alone the iPhone.

I'm just voicing my opinion that she could slim down just a bit, a 22% slimdown sounds just right to me.....;)

[earnjam]

I can probably talk for many of the forum members here in saying that we would not call ourselves dorks.

Also do you not really see any crossover between the two, not even a tiny itty bitty lol :rolleyes: :D

I'm definitely a tech dork.

I was a math dork in high school until I placed out of all math in college...then I became a beer dork.

[stagi]

I never believe Shawn Wu

[DaBrain]

Give me a killer ebook-newton and Apple has all my money!

Man IM right there with ya!--))) ;)

[smes3817]

Honestly I think us macheads are getting a bit over our heads.

So far in a hour and a half we have
-a new iPhone
-new apps for the app store
-sneak peak at a new OSX
-a touch screen tablet

I'm probably missing somethings. But to me it doesn't seem long enough of a time frame to show the major points to these things.

Oh and really with the math stuff guys? Calm down. This is a forum for tech dorks not math dorks

hahaha knowing basic high school math does not mean we are math dorks, just educated. HIGH SCHOOl math, man...

[nilka]

Well I really dont see any good reason for apple not top put a 7" tablet out in the streets. with asus, hp, dell, msi, and dozens of other computer makers pushing out 7-10 inch cheap laptops i dont see any reason why apple wouldnt do the same. And we all know apple always have their own aproach on things. I for one would love one if the enclosure isnt eny bigger than the screen or if it will e like a tablet pc with turnable screen. I have an asus eee and cant wait for the apple answer as the eee, is the computer I use the most even though I have windows on it.
It has windows to play starcraft before people rant at me having windows on it.

Nilka

[Sander]

Actually there is, giving a set diagonal of the screen this requires that the "perimeter" of the screen must in fact be constant.

You can see the proof of my claim here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080423173845AAcK462

So please don't tell me I ditched geometry to get high, I just passed Calc 3 a week ago. :)
You should know your stuff before telling other people that they don't know theirs ;)

What grade did you pass it with..? Your claim is false, I'm sorry. The page you link to proves something else. Message me privately for an explanation if you want; this thread is turning into a geometry class.

[HawaiiMacAddict]

Did I seriously just fall for that? Really? :rolleyes: Never fails.



So the entire device would be the screen of an iPod Nano. Who'd complain about bulk then? ;)

I did as well, but I thought he was going to link to Andy Ihnatko's or Merlin Mann's "internet pants (http://www.vimeo.com/853249)."

:apple:HawaiiMacAddict

[retroneo]

They are the same size as the touch screen panels from the already released Samsung F480 and F490.

Check them out as to what you can fit into a phone smaller than the iphone!

[Donz0r]

Actually there is, giving a set diagonal of the screen this requires that the "perimeter" of the screen must in fact be constant.

You can see the proof of my claim here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080423173845AAcK462

So please don't tell me I ditched geometry to get high, I just passed Calc 3 a week ago. :)
You should know your stuff before telling other people that they don't know theirs ;)

You are wrong.

2.8'' x 2.8'' is 4'' diagonal and 11.2'' perimeter
2.333'' x 3.222'' is 4'' diagonal and 9.1'' perimeter
Your link is about something completely different.

[Mr Maui]

Actually...

It would, but I think you're misunderstanding his point. I think he's referring to the idea (bear with me) that if you have 40 yards of fencing, then to get the biggest area in your fence you would build a 10yd by 10yd fence, which is in fact a square, and gives you 100 square yards of space. :D

I'm glad a lot of people ripped the guy for his original foolish post, but I am stunned that someone is trying to defend him. Fences may be measured in linear footage, but screens are, and have always been, measured diagonally. So he is WRONG!!!! :eek:

[lazyrighteye]

Why doesnt he (Wu) just come out, put his hands up and say "hey, guys, I really actually have no clue" :)

That's just a long-winded way of saying "50-50."

[slick50zd1]

You are wrong.

2.8'' x 2.8'' is 4'' diagonal and 11.2'' perimeter
2.333'' x 3.222'' is 4'' diagonal and 9.1'' perimeter
Your link is about something completely different.

EDIT: I think you did your math wrong.

[Mr Maui]

First, I love how one poster's comment of foolishness has turned this thread into Math 101

[localoid]

Well I really dont see any good reason for apple not top put a 7" tablet out in the streets. with asus, hp, dell, msi, and dozens of other computer makers pushing out 7-10 inch cheap laptops i dont see any reason why apple wouldnt do the same. And we all know apple always have their own aproach on things. I for one would love one if the enclosure isnt eny bigger than the screen or if it will e like a tablet pc with turnable screen. I have an asus eee and cant wait for the apple answer as the eee, is the computer I use the most even though I have windows on it.
It has windows to play starcraft before people rant at me having windows on it.

Nilka

Yes, there seems to be a good amount of consumers interested in mini-notebooks about the size of a steno pad with a conventional keyboard that retails for ~$500. MSI's "Wind", with it's rounded corners, reminds me of Apple's iBook (pic below). A 7" screens seems to small -- a 10" screen that can display 1024 pixels (width) seem to be a good compromise...

Screw the touchscreen concept. Putting the multi-touch functions in the touch-pad would keep the cost low while keeping the usability high. http://www.msimobile.com/product/notebook/u100_2_zoom.jpg

[Mr Maui]

First, I love how one poster's comment of foolishness has turned this thread into Math 101

Second, I love the continual argument about what "50/50 chance" really means

And third ... I wonder if everyone who says an iPad / Newton mid-size device is NOT happening has considered a possible hint in the WWDC poster. Two bridges coming together (and I recognize they could be going apart), but also considering the statement "Everything Mac. Everything iPhone".

A mid-size (say 7") tablet could give you the near full functionality of a Mac laptop with a full touchscreen and the near portability and freedom of an iPhone (3G, GPS, Wifi, etc). Just a thought.

I believe there is a specific reason for the Everything Mac. Everything iPhone." subhead on the poster. Apple has never wasted these types of comments, so Mac will be addressed and iPhone will be addressed OR a combination of the two platforms is possible alternative.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/03/wwdc2008.jpg

[sfroom]

Ooh, ooh...My turn...I'm going to make a bold 50/50 prediction that Steve Jobs will introduce something new at WDC on Monday. And that he may or may not personally hand-deliver one to me. Now, where do I send my resume?
No.

There's always a 50/50 chance on anything. I guess by saying that there's a 50/50 chance on this would be his "get out of jail free card" once people realize that he, like many other people who prey on rumors and speculation, is clearly talking out of his ass.
No.

I know this has beed addressed previously in this thread, but I think it bears repeating again.

Just because something has a possibility of happening, doesn't mean that it's 50%-50%.

Will Steve Jobs hand deliver the new product to you tomorrow? Not very likely at all...definitely would round down to 0% chance. Will he announce a table? 50% likelyhood is a lot! 50% is good betting odds (better than any game in a casino)!

This tech writer has really gone out on a limb.

[Mr Maui]

You are wrong.

2.8'' x 2.8'' is 4'' diagonal and 11.2'' perimeter
2.333'' x 3.222'' is 4'' diagonal and 9.1'' perimeter
Your link is about something completely different.

Um ... I beg to differ but ... 2.333 x 2 sides = 4.666 and 3.222 x 2 sides = 6.444. 4.666 + 6.444 = 11.11 perimeter. Basic Math.

[ArtOfWarfare]

lol, wow

I never even realized there were two bridges in that picture.

I guess that proves that people initially only see what they expect to see...

[louden]

Anybody take a look at the WWDC session schedule?

I see plenty - about 15 or so - sessions marked "Session to be Announced."

Anybody have any idea what that could be about?
- 10.6?
- New tablet device?
- Some kind of merge of the two?

I want to know...

[mags631]

Well I believe there's a 50/50 chance that Apple may or may not introduce either a tablet and/or 1-2 other new devices at WWDC.

Now will somebody pay me :cool:

I'd say that you could confidently assert that there's a 100% chance of that occurring.

[Santa Rosa]

Well I really dont see any good reason for apple not top put a 7" tablet out in the streets. with asus, hp, dell, msi, and dozens of other computer makers pushing out 7-10 inch cheap laptops i dont see any reason why apple wouldnt do the same.

I would say, that is probably the reason Apple wouldnt do it.

[earnjam]

Ok, enough math people...seriously. :p

I wonder if everyone who says an iPad / Newton mid-size device is NOT happening has considered a possible hint in the WWDC poster. Two bridges coming together (and I recognize they could be going apart), but also considering the statement "Everything Mac. Everything iPhone".

A mid-size (say 7") tablet could give you the near full functionality of a Mac laptop with a full touchscreen and the near portability and freedom of an iPhone (3G, GPS, Wifi, etc). Just a thought.

I believe there is a specific reason for the Everything Mac. Everything iPhone." subhead on the poster. Apple has never wasted these types of comments, so Mac will be addressed and iPhone will be addressed OR a combination of the two platforms is possible alternative.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/03/wwdc2008.jpg

I do find this interesting, but I could also see it as a way for them to show that the conference is about developing for Macs and developing for iPhones...the show isn't just about one or the other. In other words...don't let the iPhones steal the show.

They even support that with the paragraph at the bottom.

[Santa Rosa]

Anybody take a look at the WWDC session schedule?

I see plenty - about 15 or so - sessions marked "Session to be Announced."

Anybody have any idea what that could be about?
- 10.6?
- New tablet device?
- Some kind of merge of the two?

I want to know...

Yea, I have had a scan through all the days.

Sessions to be announced could be anything I suppose. Something to do with whats going to be announced at the keynote I would guess. Maybe integration of GPS into your apps or something along those lines.

Find Out Monday!!!

[madmaxmedia]

Those iLounge pictures look very dodgy.

Its difficult to see even with multi touch Apple wanting to go back into the sort of Newtonesk market again. The iPhone is just the right midpoint from having no computer, to having a laptop with you. Thats how it sits in that range so nicely. Anything bigger than that, but smaller than a laptop I dont see as really fitting in so good.

Then again it could be El Jobso's hobby project 2.

A tweener device (smaller screen than a notebook, but doesn't fit in your pocket) isn't going to have nearly as big a market as either iPhone/iPod Touch or a new notebook computer.

But just to play devil's advocate here- it's not going to take much resources to launch a slightly bigger tablet that runs the same software as iPhone/iPod Touch- you're piggy-backing on an already existing (and very successful) platform. It was a lot different back in the day with Newton.

That being said, I don't really see it myself either. It might be interesting for Apple to release an EEEPC-like clamshell. I mean you already have all the basic apps right there, plus throw in some more 3rd-party stuff and you have a pretty viable sub-notebook (with touchscreen.)

I would MUCH rather have a iPod-Touch-esque clamshell with decent keyboard, than an EEEPC running Windows XP. Having owned an iPod Touch, I know what they are already capable of now even with the small screen and soft keyboard. Basically you'd be taking the MacBook air to an even greater level of 'airness'. ;-)

[junkmailbonzai]

Personally, I would hate a smaller iphone screen. Might be nice for the wife but why get an iphone that does so much if it is that small. I don't want to always hold the phone 2 inches from my face to see what I am doing.

http://bp3.blogger.com/_HEkyE8xHESk/SEg_KSVwMmI/AAAAAAAAA2w/bkVBT7iam3o/s320/Photo+19.jpg

p.s. This is my T-Mobile brick that I get to ditch when I get the new 3G iPhone next week. oooh happy day!! :rolleyes::D:cool::p:apple:

[macthetiger85]

This is actually interesting considering the unofficial announcement of "Snow Leopard" Maybe Snow Leopard will not be 10.6 but will be an operating system somewhere between Mac OS Touch (iPhone, iPod Touch) and Leopard (all of the Macs.)

A Touch tablet which is a large iPhone or miniMac, would require an Operating System that is not so much Leopard (don't need PPC support for an Intel only machine) but more versatile and user controlled then Mac OS Touch or whatever they call that OS.

I don't know if this was mentioned, I haven't had the time to read through the thread, but it would make sense - Cocoa only, no UB. Snow Leopard, less bugs, faster, slimmer OS.

What do you think?

[MagnusVonMagnum]

I don't want nothing smaller then the current iPhone.

Agreed. I want a LARGER screen, personally. I've got plenty of more room in my pocket for say a 4" or 4.5" screen. It'd make browsing without having to pinch constantly a lot more tolerable. A smaller screen? Geeze, I'm having a hard enough time typing on that virtual keyboard with the current 3.5" screen. 2.8" would be unusable and 3.2" would be typos everywhere. I'm 6'2" and my fingers are NOT tiny.

[H$R]

i feel like at this point I cant even stand anymore of the rumors, yea they are fun but i have this knot in my stomach everytime a new rumor surfaces. I think im going to stop reading the rumors if i can. Hell, im not even interested in the friggin phone and i cant stop myself from wondering.

yeah, I know what you mean. I was thinking the same the other day. Just turn off my Mac, and turn it on again on Monday, when the WWDC starts too see the news. But hell, there's a reason why were on macRUMORS.com at the moment. I am just to curious what might comes out!

[Mr Maui]

lol, wow

I never even realized there were two bridges in that picture.

I guess that proves that people initially only see what they expect to see...

LOL ... Though the second one appears hard to miss to me. :p

[Saladinos]

If it were going to have happened, Apple wouldn't have released the MacBook Air. That's the Mac for on-the-go people, and the iPhone is something else entirely.

Apple aren't going to move in to every product space you dream up just because it looked cool in your dream.

[krye]

50/50 % chance? Are you serious? There's also a 50/50 % chance that Apple will be putting out Coffee makers too.

[Ironduke]

Personally, I would hate a smaller iphone screen. Might be nice for the wife but why get an iphone that does so much if it is that small. I don't want to always hold the phone 2 inches from my face to see what I am doing.

http://bp3.blogger.com/_HEkyE8xHESk/SEg_KSVwMmI/AAAAAAAAA2w/bkVBT7iam3o/s320/Photo+19.jpg

p.s. This is my T-Mobile brick that I get to ditch when I get the new 3G iPhone next week. oooh happy day!! :rolleyes::D:cool::p:apple:

stop that you will go blind:eek:

[Sylvan]

a square however would provide the greatest visible area.... hmmNo, it wouldn't. Did everyone here skip geometry class to get high under the bleachers?

Before you go insulting someone, you should check yourself first. Apparently YOU were the one sleeping in elementary calculus. It's fairly easy to demonstrate that for a rectangle of fixed diagonal length, you get the maximum area with a square.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh204/sylvanc94/rectangle.jpg

[Ironduke]

If the 3g iphone doesnt have a 3.5 inch screen (is smaller) then its a step back for me:(
apple also need to bump the cpu too as the grey and white checker board while browsing annoys me

[EagerDragon]

Both the 4 inch screen and specially the 7 inch screen would be interesting. The 4 inch screen would be around 2.33 inches by 3.33 inches and the 7 incher one would be around 5.6 by 4. Note that the sizes depend on the angle of the line, I used a 45 degree angle.

Sounds like plenty of real state on the 7 incher to browse, do video, etc.

If it comes I may go for the bigger one, the 4 incher one is close to the ones in the iPhone now.

[junkmailbonzai]

I don't want nothing smaller then the current iPhone.

Ditto!

[sfroom]

50/50 % chance? Are you serious? There's also a 50/50 % chance that Apple will be putting out Coffee makers too.

I didn't think I was the kind of person to have pet peeves....but this is really eating at me.

50/50 means: as likely to happen as it is not to happen..

As yourself 2 questions:

How likely is it that apple will release coffee makers at WWDC: Very Unlikely
How likely is it that apple will NOT release coffee makers at WWDC: Very Likely

Very unlikely does not equal very likely.

[SkippyThorson]

This is actually interesting considering the unofficial announcement of "Snow Leopard" Maybe Snow Leopard will not be 10.6 but will be an operating system somewhere between Mac OS Touch (iPhone, iPod Touch) and Leopard (all of the Macs.)

A Touch tablet which is a large iPhone or miniMac, would require an Operating System that is not so much Leopard (don't need PPC support for an Intel only machine) but more versatile and user controlled then Mac OS Touch or whatever they call that OS.

I don't know if this was mentioned, I haven't had the time to read through the thread, but it would make sense - Cocoa only, no UB. Snow Leopard, less bugs, faster, slimmer OS.

What do you think?

You beat me to it - that's exactly what I was thinking. Mac OS 10.6 may implement the actual OS 10.5 for a smaller fully Touch mobile device, such as iTablet. This would also make sense if it was Intel ONLY, in the way that you wouldn't need or want to run it on any other device. Why run an OS that's only made for one device on anything else, and why keep PPC support if it's not used anywhere on said device? :)

[Santa Rosa]

If the 3g iphone doesnt have a 3.5 inch screen (is smaller) then its a step back for me:(
apple also need to bump the cpu too as the grey and white checker board while browsing annoys me

I would chime in there as well x2. The iPhone at the moment is just the right size. They definately didnt say, aww well make it this size and got it right in one. I am guessing that was one of the major considerations of the device.

At the moment, any smaller means loss of functionality in various areas. Any bigger means that it really is a bit of a brick as a phone. Holding anything larger than the current iPhone to your ear is going to look pretty silly.

[madmaxmedia]

LOL, I barely looked at the WWDC image and didn't notice the 2 bridges either!

Okay, I guess we can assume this means the bridging of the 2 platforms, as they appear to meet together on 1 side. This could make sense for a new tablet/subnotebook device.

On top of the new iPhone, of course.

[junkmailbonzai]

stop that you will go blind:eek:

Thanks! :p but I am afraid it is too late!

http://mikeandcas.blogspot.com/2008/06/thanks.html
http://bp1.blogger.com/_HEkyE8xHESk/SEhFYs7V3PI/AAAAAAAAA3A/UEnZg3KyCEw/s400/Photo+23.jpg

[shiseiryu1]

It would be nice if Apple follows through with their patent with the iMac looking docking station. That would be really nice because you could take the "Newton" on the go with you, but also you could still have a 20-24" 'iMac' at the home office. However, one thing that I want in the Newton is internet over cell towers. They should be putting that capability in the new macbooks; then have AT&T offer the service as an add-on to your iPhone plan. Either that or someone needs to make a cord so that you can internet-enable your laptop using the iPhone.

[Leopard=God]

Do you think it's possible that if there is indeed an instant messaging application that it could run in the background? I really don't want to have to keep my iPod turned on the entire time when instant messaging, I'd like to be able to press the black button at the top (sleep mode I guess?) between messages.

[junkmailbonzai]

Any bigger means that it really is a bit of a brick as a phone. Holding anything larger than the current iPhone to your ear is going to look pretty silly.

You mean like this?!
http://bp1.blogger.com/_HEkyE8xHESk/SEhG_-nkFCI/AAAAAAAAA3I/CUwtrqfwSJg/s400/Photo+24.jpg

[FunkyJunk]

Lol!

[netdog]

Your logic is not correct. 50-50 does not mean "anything can happen", it means that it's EQUALLY likely to happen as it is to not happen.

If I told you they were releasing 20 GHZ Mac Pro's with 64 GB of ram for $999 tomorrow, would you tell me "There's a 50-50 chance"?

If you had asked someone yesterday what the chances were Apple would be releasing a 7" touchscreen device, most people would have said "0%". Saying 50-50 is saying a lot...the writer is clearly going out on a limb, indicating it's fairly likely we might see this device.

However, I'm not sure I believe him.

Thanks for straightening that out for us.

[shiseiryu1]

Ok, after my post I did a google search and found out how to wireless share the iPhone internet connection; however it looks like a pain. ATT and Apple should get together to make this easy one way or another.

http://lifehacker.com/software/feature/use-your-iphones-internet-connection-on-your-laptop-327066.php

[NT1440]

Do you think it's possible that if there is indeed an instant messaging application that it could run in the background? I really don't want to have to keep my iPod turned on the entire time when instant messaging, I'd like to be able to press the black button at the top (sleep mode I guess?) between messages.

it would have to be 1st party AKA made by apple (ichat perhaps?) for it to run in the backround. The rules of the SDK say that applications cannot run in the backround (whats that mean for 3rd party flash).

[Santa Rosa]

Sorry, couldn't resist :D

[krye]

I didn't think I was the kind of person to have pet peeves....but this is really eating at me.

50/50 means: as likely to happen as it is not to happen..

As yourself 2 questions:

How likely is it that apple will release coffee makers at WWDC: Very Unlikely
How likely is it that apple will NOT release coffee makers at WWDC: Very Likely

Very unlikely does not equal very likely.

And my peeve is when the Apple rumor community peddles these stupid rumors based on nothing more than crap pulled out of someone's ass. And yes, I know that 50/50 means they are just as likely to release it as they are to not release it. You can say that about pretty much anything. So all this means NOTHING! And you guys are all going to get wet over a device perpetuated by the rumor community that probably doesn't exist. People have been talking about a "tablet" mac for years and years and years. I don't see it happening on the day they launch the 3G iPhone. Apple would be fools to do so. And they are no fools. Imagine how many iPhone sales they'd loose to this supposed ultimate mobile device. As it stands now ~85% of iPhone users do not even use the phone. So, the fact that it is a phone obviously is not the selling point. If they were to come out with something with a bigger screen, that had 3G connectivity, Apple can probably kiss their 1% market share goodbye. Unless they branded it as an iPhone, which I can't see either.

[aswitcher]

iPhone nano...yeah I can see that.

[earnjam]

As it stands now ~85% of iPhone users do not even use the phone. So, the fact that it is a phone obviously is not the selling point.

Wow, that's not even close to accurate. I'm not sure where you're pulling your numbers from (I can take a guess ;) ), but you should get some accurate facts before going on a rant.

[queshy]

You mean like this?!
http://bp1.blogger.com/_HEkyE8xHESk/SEhG_-nkFCI/AAAAAAAAA3I/CUwtrqfwSJg/s400/Photo+24.jpg

Fail.

Anyways, I don't see Apple releasing some sort of hybrid device anytime soon. They want simplicity. There's the Mac and the iPhone. Anything in between would confuse the hell out of a lot of customers. A problem with Apple in the 90s before Jobs took over was that they had way too many products. Apple is always trying to keep things simple and doesn't want the customers to have to guess which device (if any) is best for them.

[junkmailbonzai]

Sorry, couldn't resist :D

No! Don't be sorry, I love it and my wife can't stop laughing.

[gugy]

I would not mind a smaller, cheaper and simpler iPhone Nano to buy for my wife. She will not use all the features the current iPhone sports anyway. Plus if Apple creates a simple iPhone for $199, that would sell like crazy.

I am all for it.
But make the regular iPhone even better please.

[FunkyJunk]

I couldn't help either.

[Santa Rosa]

As it stands now ~85% of iPhone users do not even use the phone. .

Darn, that thing I bought called an iPhone has phone capabilities, well shoot me down!! :rolleyes:

A few paragraphs are always nice as well :)

[megfilmworks]

As it stands now ~85% of iPhone users do not even use the phone.
HUH? Care to provide a reputable link for this suspected FUD?

[earnjam]

I couldn't help either.

Wow...we need this phone to come out already. hahaha :D

[Santa Rosa]

I couldn't help either.

Talk about showing up my skills lol :o

Nicely done, nicely done :D

[junkmailbonzai]

I couldn't help either.

That is awesome! How did you do that? Could you do that with an iphone?

[junkmailbonzai]

Thanks Santa Rosa!
http://bp1.blogger.com/_HEkyE8xHESk/SEhLqP3nuwI/AAAAAAAAA3Q/dPtYOWKS_yw/s400/macrumorsguytest.gif

[FunkyJunk]

That is awesome! How did you do that? Could you do that with an iphone?

Elementary Photoshop, dear sir. :D

[earnjam]

That is awesome! How did you do that? Could you do that with an iphone?

Maybe on Photoshop CS4 beta for iPhone...? :)

[sfroom]

And my peeve is when the Apple rumor community peddles these stupid rumors based on nothing more than crap pulled out of someone's ass. And yes, I know that 50/50 means they are just as likely to release it as they are to not release it. You can say that about pretty much anything. So all this means NOTHING! And you guys are all going to get wet over a device perpetuated by the rumor community that probably doesn't exist. People have been talking about a "tablet" mac for years and years and years. I don't see it happening on the day they launch the 3G iPhone. Apple would be fools to do so. And they are no fools. Imagine how many iPhone sales they'd loose to this supposed ultimate mobile device. As it stands now ~85% of iPhone users do not even use the phone. So, the fact that it is a phone obviously is not the selling point. If they were to come out with something with a bigger screen, that had 3G connectivity, Apple can probably kiss their 1% market share goodbye. Unless they branded it as an iPhone, which I can't see either.

I'm not peddling the rumor. I made it very clear in my first post in this thread that I'm actually pretty skeptical. Some people enjoy indulging in rumors though, and while it may not be the healthiest activity, I don't think its anyones duty to discourage it. If you don't enjoy reading "stupid rumors based on nothing more than crap pulled out of someone's ass", then don't!

You say you understand that 50/50 means as likely to happen as to not happen, but then demonstrate a lack of understanding in the very next sentence. You most definitely cannot say that "about pretty much anything", so it does mean something as opposed to "pretty much nothing", as you suggest.

When the author of the rumor suggested there's a 50/50 chance a that a tablet would be released, it means he genuinely believes it very well might, just like a person believes that a coin very well might land heads up when it is flipped. He means to say that it's a very real possibility.

Whether or not you agree is your prerogative (and that's what this discussion is for:D).

I apologize to the readers who have read this thread in its entirety for the repeating myself.

[Santa Rosa]

Elementary Photoshop, dear sir. :D

Think I need to boost my skills a bit lol.

I am actually using a 8 year old Dell at the moment with XP SP3 and photoshop CS, the original :D

[slick50zd1]

Before you go insulting someone, you should check yourself first. Apparently YOU were the one sleeping in elementary calculus. It's fairly easy to demonstrate that for a rectangle of fixed diagonal length, you get the maximum area with a square.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh204/sylvanc94/rectangle.jpg

Thank you.

[BoyBach]

no, you're mixing up area with diagonals.

a"^2+b"^2=4"^2 if the screen is 4".

So a^2+b^2=16

2 by 2 wouldn't work because that would be 4+4=8.

And they're probably rounding to 4.

I'd say it's closer to... 2x3.5 which would be... 4+12.25=16.25... square root is ... 4.03 which they round down to 4".

So 4" diagonally is probably about 2" by 3.5".


I think my brain just exploded! :eek:

( :D ;) )

[queshy]

Hoping that MR or Engadget and all the other sites don't crash on monday...

[Santa Rosa]

I think my brain just exploded! :eek:

( :D ;) )

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/bst0020l.jpg

[DaBrain]

First, I love how one poster's comment of foolishness has turned this thread into Math 101

Better then the spelling contests that go on from time to time. Ya know, like english 101--))));)

[Santa Rosa]

Hoping that MR or Engadget and all the other sites don't crash on monday...

Its a valid point, I think Engadget will be ok but I have noticed one or two problems recently when using Macrumors. Front page not loading, forums slowing up a bit. Might be something to look into, as I'm sure Arn has been.

Better then the spelling contests that go on from time to time. Ya know, like english 101--))));)

MacRumors.com
a well rounded education from the real world :D

[nick9191]

Apple need to stop unveiling new products and start working on their current product strategy.

[Donz0r]

A 50/50 chance of releasing this tablet thing is a pretty bold statement, think about it, seriously. Just because there's 2 outcomes for something doesn't mean that there's a 50/50 chance of it going each way. Some people on these boards need to think about things before they type them.

[Donz0r]

that being said, there will be no iTablet on monday, absolutely not. This analyst is just typing out of his ass for site traffic.

[BigD58]

In all honesty all i want is a better iPhone and only one! I dont want apple to come out with an iPhone nano or anything like that because then they will turn into iPod's....everyone will have one........:( But idc i am about to go crazy waiting for WWDC.

[Mr Maui]

Thanks Santa Rosa!
http://bp1.blogger.com/_HEkyE8xHESk/SEhLqP3nuwI/AAAAAAAAA3Q/dPtYOWKS_yw/s400/macrumorsguytest.gif

Remind me never to place my photo out here. LOL :D

[Mr Maui]

that being said, there will be no iTablet on monday, absolutely not. This analyst is just typing out of his ass for site traffic.

Well, if that was the goal, it sure has the traffic flowing ... very successfully. Not to mention teaching a full basic math course in the process.

[peterdevries]

Thank you.

I salute you man... ;) (or woman)

[junkmailbonzai]

From personal experience, I am not sure how good of an idea it is to make an iTablet. I used tablet/slate PC for a year at college and it was a blast because I was the only one with a slate PC and I got looks left and right. I gave up on the slate though and got a MacBook because it just wasn't very functional for what I needed to do. I had a slate from motion computing (http://www.motioncomputing.com/)

http://bp1.blogger.com/_HEkyE8xHESk/SEhTqUrakRI/AAAAAAAAA34/2GXL0mL32fk/s320/Picture+1.png (http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/tablet_pc_le17.asp)

[sfroom]

Hoping that MR or Engadget and all the other sites don't crash on monday...
Tuaw is down!

EDIT: Now it's back up.

[NT1440]

Apple need to stop unveiling new products and start working on their current product strategy.



care to elaborate?

[Santa Rosa]

A 50/50 chance of releasing this tablet thing is a pretty bold statement, think about it, seriously. Just because there's 2 outcomes for something doesn't mean that there's a 50/50 chance of it going each way. Some people on these boards need to think about things before they type them.

that being said, there will be no iTablet on monday, absolutely not. This analyst is just typing out of his ass for site traffic.

If you can use the edit button to make additions to your post it is preferred. :)

[Kebabselector]

As it stands now ~85% of iPhone users do not even use the phone. So, the fact that it is a phone obviously is not the selling point.

Maybe it's 85% didn't sign up to the local phone partner and just jailbroke the device instead?

I know 5-6 iPhone users, none of which actually signed up to 02 (uk network).

[megfilmworks]

Maybe the statistic is just made up of whole cloth by krye.

[Kebabselector]

True, 98.7% of statistics are made up.

[Mr Maui]

True, 98.7% of statistics are made up.

Though I'm fully confident that yours was dead-on accurate (that it was made up too). :D

[Mr. Giver '94]

First, I love how one poster's comment of foolishness has turned this thread into Math 101

Second, I love the continual argument about what "50/50 chance" really means

And third ... I wonder if everyone who says an iPad / Newton mid-size device is NOT happening has considered a possible hint in the WWDC poster. Two bridges coming together (and I recognize they could be going apart), but also considering the statement "Everything Mac. Everything iPhone".

A mid-size (say 7") tablet could give you the near full functionality of a Mac laptop with a full touchscreen and the near portability and freedom of an iPhone (3G, GPS, Wifi, etc). Just a thought.

I believe there is a specific reason for the Everything Mac. Everything iPhone." subhead on the poster. Apple has never wasted these types of comments, so Mac will be addressed and iPhone will be addressed OR a combination of the two platforms is possible alternative.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/03/wwdc2008.jpg

Just a thought..... Maybe the two bridges are going away from each other to symbolize Cocoa and Carbon seperating.

I also think the Mac Tablet is an interesting thought, but it would be impractical because nobody wants to hold that big of a device up to their ear. Also hard to carry in a pocket and I don't want a belt clip cause it looks like I'm on my way to a meeting with a client.(I'm only in High School)

[slick50zd1]

I salute you man... ;) (or woman)

heh thx, and I am a guy :cool:

[chocolate]

Thank God the cellular providers have more phones to provide us.

[acfusion29]

The picture is fake.. if I did this correctly (Not sure if this has been mentioned already), you can see that both screens it's the same pic.

The date, and then I believe a number that IDs each LCD is the same on both of them.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7716/18544771fm9.jpg

[Darkroom]

i believe that shaw wu has a 50/50 chance of being incorrect...


:confused:

[harrier]

Is it just my imagination or in today's Apple emailing "Music to your ears: iPod accessories for the summer", it looks like a different looking iPod touch. For the Sunscreen for your iPod, a black tab on the lower left corner of the back and more metal on the front -- maybe even thinner. Is this the look of a new touch?

[TwinCities Dan]

A 50-50 chance -- talk about hedging your bets. Shaw Wu is really going out on a limb this time! There's a 50-50 chance of anything happening, either it does or it doesn't.

HAHA :D

Does anybody really care what Shaw Wu says anymore? :confused:

[matthutch]

I don't like the idea of them shrinking the screen size on the Touch/iPhone, it is of course a different matter if they made two versions. Perhaps one slightly smaller/thinner and one the same size (screen wise) as is currently available.

[TwinCities Dan]

Does anyone think that something new and exciting will actually be on sale and available for purchase immediately following the Keynote on Monday?

Hardware? No, but another magical date will probably be set.
Software? 10.5.4 maybe? ;)

[TwinCities Dan]

This is a forum for tech dorks not math dorks

Woah, woah, woah, wait a minute...:confused:

There's a difference?

;):)

[dap1215]

Is it just my imagination or in today's Apple emailing "Music to your ears: iPod accessories for the summer", it looks like a different looking iPod touch. For the Sunscreen for your iPod, a black tab on the lower left corner of the back and more metal on the front -- maybe even thinner. Is this the look of a new touch?

The black tab on the back lower left corner seems to be a shadow. Beyond that I'm not sure ;)

[TwinCities Dan]

Apple aren't going to move in to every product space you dream up just because it looked cool in your dream.

LOL
But wouldn't it be great if they did? :eek: :D

TCDan + :apple:

[macerroneous]

Is it just my imagination or in today's Apple emailing "Music to your ears: iPod accessories for the summer", it looks like a different looking iPod touch. For the Sunscreen for your iPod, a black tab on the lower left corner of the back and more metal on the front -- maybe even thinner. Is this the look of a new touch?

Maybe one of the new products is a touch, with the addition of 3g but still no phone function. wouldn't you touch users love to be able to access the internet even when you can't get wifi? That always seemed to be a big limitation to me. That would be a product that ATT would sell in its stores, as well.

So, Monday we get 16GB & 32GB 3g iphones, plus a slightly larger? touch with 3g added (plus maybe GPS).

Anyone give me 50-50 odds?

[Leopard=God]

Maybe one of the new products is a touch, with the addition of 3g but still no phone function. wouldn't you touch users love to be able to access the internet even when you can't get wifi? That always seemed to be a big limitation to me. That would be a product that ATT would sell in its stores, as well.

So, Monday we get 16GB & 32GB 3g iphones, plus a slightly larger? touch with 3g added (plus maybe GPS).

That'd be cool except I just got my touch like two months ago and can't afford to buy a new one. Maybe there's a 3G chip inside the touch that can be activated by a software update :p we touch users can hope too :D

[deputylove8]

I want a Macbook Touch! 12 inch would be great for me...or even an 11 incher...7 is kinda small....

hahaha..looks like many of us like it small..some like it large...some well..they don't like it at all....

:apple::confused::);):D:o:cool::p

[G4scott]

What if these are for some iPhone knockoff? With the hype of new iPhones, I'm sure there are some other companies ready to sell come cheap iphone imitations.

Also, what about iPods? It makes sense for Apple to integrate their mobile platform into as many devices as possible. More devices = more software sold = more $$$.

We can only wait... (unless we get more blurry spy pics...)

[MacinDoc]

Oh, come on, Shaw, even you can do better than that!

A 50/50 chance that Apple will introduce a touch device larger or smaller than the current iPhone at some time in the future? It hardly takes any expertise to make such an obvious prediction. If you're going to be that vague, I'll up the ante. I predict that there is a 99% chance that Apple will introduce a touch device either larger or smaller than the current iPhone within the next 6 months (perhaps even in the next 6 days). And to think that you get paid for such nonsense!

[28monkeys]

10 bucks for the screen will be smaller.

[kontheur]

http://www.frankreinders.nl/foto/600/landmark_600.jpg

[Lumi]

Has nobody thought that this smaller screen could be for a new Nano replacement? Apple could simply be looking to End Of Life the iPhone software used in the nano, the Gen5 and previous iPods, moving to a situation where the entire iPod line (excl shuffle) are based on OSX with a touch interface. This could just be the end of the "wheel", I would suggest that the new nano would not have wifi, but could have an accellerometer for games.

The bridges in WWDC promotional material could be signifying convergence of two product lines onto a common software platform, going forward Apple and it's developer community would only be developing for OSX, presently Apple has iPod developers and iPhone / OSX developers.

[7egend]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but a 4 inch touch-screen would be 2x2 inches only! :eek:

You do know screens are measured diagonally right? If they weren't current gen iphones would be 1.75 inches x 1.75 inches, which we know for a fact it isn't.

[Santa Rosa]

You do know screens are measured diagonally right? If they weren't current gen iphones would be 1.75 inches x 1.75 inches, which we know for a fact it isn't.

You blatantly didnt even bother to read the thread did you :rolleyes:

Take a quick skim back through, a very good Maths 101 class went down. :)

[Tallest Skil]

Guys! It's the MacTablet! Now, I don't work at Apple, but I was getting on to the elevator at Moscone and who should step out but His Jobsness himself!

The fact that he's missing his left hand is part of the "more ways than one" bit. Don't question my logic.

[iceman1234]

WWDC will be a land mark event in 2 ways:
1- Expansion of OSX iPhone
2- Expansion of OSX Leopard

[acfusion29]

http://www.frankreinders.nl/foto/600/landmark_600.jpg

Good rendering, but if they make the screen smaller that means they gotta make the resolution higher unless all the programs are remade (I've said this billions of times) because of lost real estate.

And also, why is my picture that I posted ignored since it proves that both LCDs are the same.

[MacFanatic08]

I hope it's a 9" or 12" tablet, talk about beautiful! :D

[Mr Maui]

... I also think the Mac Tablet is an interesting thought, but it would be impractical because nobody wants to hold that big of a device up to their ear. Also hard to carry in a pocket and I don't want a belt clip cause it looks like I'm on my way to a meeting with a client.(I'm only in High School)

Um ... bluetooth ... hands free ... readily available. ;)

[seashellz]

theres a cryptogram hidden in the word LANDMARK (event)

send your boys in that direction

[zepharus]

Guys! It's the MacTabet! Now, I don't work at Apple, but I was getting on to the elevator at Moscone and who should step out but His Jobsness himself!

The fact that he's missing his left hand is part of the "more ways than one" bit. Don't question my logic.



A Mactabet? Is the Dali Lama the cover man for the Ad Campaign?



On a side note, I would cream in my pants for a Mactablet right now. Im at a point in my personl and professional life where this would be viable.. Just give it decent graphics capability PLEASE

[Ironduke]

Remind me never to place my photo out here. LOL :D

In this day and age be thankful.....

He didnt post his Junk:eek:

[krye]

I'm not buying this one bit. If anything, it's for use in another Asian market knock off. Certainly not something that Apple is using. There's no way they are going to make the iPhone smaller. The Nano theory is interesting, though.

[Santa Rosa]

theres a cryptogram hidden in the word LANDMARK (event)

Anagrams, close enough lol :rolleyes:

Landmark
Dank Marl
Drank Lam
Land Mark
Damn Lark
Dram Lank

On a side note, I would cream in my pants for a Mactablet right now.

Thats not the sort of imagery we want, you must be in the wrong forum :rolleyes:

[freddiecable]

A landmark event - in more ways than one...

obviously there is going to be at least two big announcements. Looks like they will be 2. Right ;)

I am sure apple has to differentiate their phone. They can¨t be in cell phone industry with one product. PERIOD. What¨s the problem with having a 2.8" and a 3.5"? But is that a landmark event?

The second thing? OSX for PCs?

:)

[guym1]

OK, a question for you all: Newton vs iPhone. I don't own an iPhone yet, because they're not good enough, yet, for what i want from it. I have a couple of Newtons, and apart from their brick-like weight and size, they are fantastic for note taking etc. No real probs with handwriting recognition over the years. My Palm Vx is getting on a bit, and is better at fitting in a pocket, but is way less clever than the Newton, and obviously not as useful as a iPhone.

But from what i can gather, the iPhone just isn't really set up for notes, scribing, whatever you want to call it: writing if you will. I don't want to have to take my iBook everywhere, and a MBA still won't fit in my pocket. So you guys: am i wrong or am i right: something bigger than an iPhone would be great, especially to take notes on?

[ArtOfWarfare]

i believe that shaw wu has a 50/50 chance of being incorrect...


:confused:

How does that effect are statistics now?

I really don't think it effects them...

It's like saying how flipping a second coin will effect the outcome of the first.

There's a 25% chance that there is a tablet and they're correct.
There's a 25% chance that there is not a tablet and they're correct.
There's a 25% chance that there is a tablet and they're not correct.
There's a 25% chance that there is not a tablet and they're not correct.

Edit:

And it seems very possible that the two bridges could symbolize both coming together and separating at the same time rather than just one or the other.

Maybe the coming together is for the tablet and the separating is for the OS on PCs?

[SkippyThorson]

Apple could simply be looking to End Of Life the iPhone software used in the nano, the Gen5 and previous iPods, moving to a situation where the entire iPod line (excl shuffle) are based on OSX with a touch interface. This could just be the end of the "wheel", I would suggest that the new nano would not have wifi, but could have an accellerometer for games

Never. Clickwheel will be around for a long long time, no matter how advanced Touch gets. Some people will always like the simplicity. I don't want to flick through 50gb of music to scroll, or go down a little letter list, but that's just me.

Guys! It's the MacTablet! Now, I don't work at Apple, but I was getting on to the elevator at Moscone and who should step out but His Jobsness himself!

The fact that he's missing his left hand is part of the "more ways than one" bit. Don't question my logic.

You don't need your left hand to operate iTablet? Genius! Safari even looks snappier on there! :)

[mac jones]

want to know why there isn't going to be a Mac tablet?

Because no-one would buy one except a few fan boys and geeks.

Might be a different size iphone though, which would be cool.

But let's say the did come out with a new variety along with a regular 3G iphone.

This actually would suck as I'd be torn as to which one to buy (already own and like the iphone).

Just hope I can some how get the 3G for $200. Wishful thinking?

[jason slater]

I have been waiting for the iphone to reach Thailand, still not here yet, just hope it's the new iphone and not the old one:cool:

It would be cool, if the new model had a bigger screen.

[MagnusVonMagnum]

I'd like a larger format iPod Touch (say 6-8 inches) that I could use specifically for controlling my whole house audio system (via Remote Buddy and Signal). I currently use my iPod Touch for that function, but frankly, I'd prefer a larger less portable device in favor of easy viewing and access, which a larger screen would provide in spades. It'd also make for a much more pleasant couch surfing device. It'd also have room for a huge battery, perhaps even a removable one so a charge would last a LOT longer. WiFi eats up my Touch's battery so fast it's ridiculous. I had to get a wall charger and strip for my stand between my recliners so I could leave the iPod Touch wired at all times so it's doesn't eat the battery up.

When you figure that other companies have $400+ remote controls out there, it doesn't seem so absurd to me, although it'd be nice if Apple directly put some remote functionality into the iPod Touch and iPhone to control things like AppleTV and iTunes servers directly. The addition of an IR port would be nice as well and could enable traditional remote control functionality as well (you could have on-screen templates to match any remote out there). I'd actually prefer a WiFi receiver that transmits the IR codes, though as I could place that in a permanent fixed position and then the iPod Touch wouldn't have to be pointed in any given direction to access it. That could be done NOW with a 3rd party addition, I think, although it'd work 10x better with a direct application instead of having to use a server like I do now for Remote Buddy, etc.

In any case, with the coming 3rd party additions, it would definitely be a winner here either way, even with the current form factor. I'm hoping to see direct Airtunes control from the iPod Touch (i.e. be able to play my iPod's own songs directly to Airtunes devices) along with direct applications for Remote Buddy and/or Signal, which would greatly improve the interface speed and functionality (wouldn't have to download/buffer the library list, etc.).

[tnawara]

Apple has already garnered a significant share of time-based media (music, podcasts, movies, tv, etc.) via the iPod/iPhone and the ubiquitous iTunes delivery vehicle. I think the new form factor may be a device to compete with (kill?) the Amazon Kindle device in the area of more static media (books, magazines, blogs, etc.) while still including the audio & video capabilities.