OS X iPhone and OS X Leopard Banners at WWDC

[MacRumors]

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Crunchgear has posted (http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/06/05/os-x-leopardiphone-banners-appear-at-moscone/) the first banners at WWDC which promote both "OS X Leopard" and "OS X iPhone". The "OS X Leopard" banner reads "The world's most advanced operating system," while the "OS X iPhone" banner reads "The world's most advanced mobile platform."

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/05/os-x-iphone-and-os-x-leopard-banners-at-wwdc/)

[kissmyaxe]

Cool, maybe this DOES mean news about both!

[k2spitfire88]

leads me to believe that leopard will be around for longer than some of these rumors were indicating. I wonder what they will change about it, with the updates and all.

[xUKHCx]

Like how on the iPhone it says:

"The Future"
Calling

Not long to wait now.

[gethyphyyo]

Omfg.. Idk.. Me Ans My Bff Rose Can't Wait For Monday.

Ttyl

[br0adband]

Interesting to see "OS X iPhone" as it appears they are now quite serious about the iPhone as a true development platform (not that they weren't before but but but...)

Monday should be full of surprises...

[coumerelli]

These are the "two bridges over the bay" from the invite. :cool: (I'm almost giddy)

[Blarged]

"The Future"
Calling

Hello?

[levitynyc]

Why is this considered news?

[Chrispy88]

leads me to believe that leopard will be around for longer than some of these rumors were indicating. I wonder what they will change about it, with the updates and all.

Well rumors indicate that they're upgrading the iPhone case as well - wouldn't that make these posters obsolete, since they display the old iPhone...???

[Mac OS X Ocelot]

Why does it say "OS X iPhone" and not just "iPhone" or "Apple iPhone"? I know, I know the iPhone has OS X on it, but it still looks strange to me.

[sh3llo]

What's that black look-a-like screen on the middle picture at the back? :cool:

[br0adband]

Why is this considered news?

It's Apple related, it just happened, it's about WWDC on Monday.

You do realize that's what this website is about, right? Mac Rumors? Mac Community Discussion? Innuendo? Hints? Allegations better left unsaid sometimes? That sorta thing?

[hobbbz]

There is something like a chat bubble (iChat icon) coming out of the iphone on the wall

[br0adband]

What's that black look-a-like screen on the middle picture at the back? :cool:

The what? The banner along the right side of the hallway is loaded up with a background gradient image, iPhone icons, a Macbook Air and an iPhone sitting in front of it. Any of that what you're talking about?

[arnette]

Why does it say "OS X iPhone" and not just "iPhone" or "Apple iPhone"? I know, I know the iPhone has OS X on it, but it still looks strange to me.

Because WWDC is a developer's conference and people develop for a particular operating platform: aka OS X. There's OS X for the Mac and now OS X for mobile (iPhone).

Sorry if you get slammed by a billion other posts about this. I'm excited too, but it's a DEVELOPER'S CONFERENCE. I'm not expecting much hardware information outside of a new iPhone.

[David G.]

That's a lot of ink!

[sh3llo]

The what? The banner along the right side of the hallway is loaded up with a background gradient image, iPhone icons, a Macbook Air and an iPhone sitting in front of it. Any of that what you're talking about?

No at the right on the wall.
You have upper-right with black - pink/purple gradient and icons, in the middle some iPhone and some black (for me it looks as a screen) and you have bottom-right with blue - black gradient and icons.

Edit: ow I see, the black is the wallpaper of the macbook air , dumb dumb dumb :(

[eyephone]

What is the macbook air looking thing behind the iphone in the poster on the wall? If it is to scale with the iphone, then it is about 7-8" or so.

:apple:

[ricardo.hudson]

I'm probably wrong, but the colours of the screens either side of the (rather stretched it seems) iPhone are different, sort of silver on the left, and white on the right..

[alex2016g]

Why does it say "OS X iPhone" and not just "iPhone" or "Apple iPhone"? I know, I know the iPhone has OS X on it, but it still looks strange to me.

^^agree
It almost feels like they are only gonna relese v2 software (its unlikly, i know...)

[Bad Paper]

What is this mystery icon on the side wall banner? I've never seen it.

[El Carbonite]

Don't forget that major products have been released at WWDC in the past.

2003: Power Mac G5
2004: New Displays
2006: Mac Pro

[m-dogg]

Like how on the iPhone it says:

"The Future"
Calling

Not long to wait now.

Yup...that made me smile...:D

I can't wait to get an iPhone...whatever it turns out to be, I hope it is available sooner rather than later!

[lowbatteries]

Why is this considered news?

Yeah, how dare they post it on macnews.com ... oh wait, this is macRUMORS.com. I guess technically this isn't a rumor either, as they don't conjecture anything based on the banners. That's where we come in!

I think "OS X iPhone" means that everyone who buys/bought Leopard gets a free iPhone. And a Leopard.

[Telp]

Why is this considered news?

Because it is news. Banners being put up is news, and helps build excitement. I can't wait till monday. It's going to be amazing (I hope). Here's to iPhone V2!!!

[FJ218700]

thanks for the info Steve,

now tell us something we don't know :cool:

[Chaszmyr]

^^agree
It almost feels like they are only gonna relese v2 software (its unlikly, i know...)

They are definitely going to release v2 software, it just isn't likely to look much different from the software we've already seen... You never know, though. "OS X iPhone" is definitely a new phrase.

[albinoAZN]

There is something like a chat bubble (iChat icon) coming out of the iphone on the wall
Good Question. The only Official orange icon on the iPhone is the iPod icon, and that definitely isn't the iPod icon.
No at the right on the wall.
You have upper-right with black - pink/purple gradient and icons, in the middle some iPhone and some black (for me it looks as a screen) and you have bottom-right with blue - black gradient and icons.

Edit: ow I see, the black is the wallpaper of the macbook air , dumb dumb dumb :(

That's an iPhone on it's side in front of a MBA with all kinds of crap floating around it.

[hellodon]

Does the iPhone look slightly wider or is it just the angles...?

[skellener]

Why does it say "OS X iPhone" and not just "iPhone" or "Apple iPhone"? I know, I know the iPhone has OS X on it, but it still looks strange to me.
Because now it's a development platform. It wasn't last year. This is a developers convention. Not a consumer one.

[boxgamex]

What is this mystery icon on the side wall banner? I've never seen it.

I was thinking the same thing..

EDIT: actually I think its an accelerometer, didnt know they had an icon for it though

[kgeier82]

nothing new to see here, move along.

they are just posters. Of course they arent gonna show posters with the "new" iphone on them, they probably wont go up until monday. That would be a leak waiting to happen.

"Yes mr security guard, i need you to guard these large posters". haha

i think the speculation is really getting out of hand with all these threads. I love reading the threads, but man, people... GET A GRIP :)

[El Carbonite]

What is this mystery icon on the side wall banner? I've never seen it.

That's the accelerometer icon.

[albinoAZN]

I was thinking the same thing..

That's the disc blade that clips on to the back of the 3G iPhone. You throw it at criminals to cut their faces off. Apple's getting into the crime deterrent business.

[arnette]

Because now it's a development platform. It wasn't last year. This is a developers convention. Not a consumer one.

THANK YOU.

I felt like I was taking crazy pills!

[ckurowic]

Yeah, how dare they post it on macnews.com ... oh wait, this is macRUMORS.com. I guess technically this isn't a rumor either, as they don't conjecture anything based on the banners. That's where we come in!

I think "OS X iPhone" means that everyone who buys/bought Leopard gets a free iPhone. And a Leopard.

Haha, YES, I'm down with a free Leopard. *rawr*

[pik.]

What is the macbook air looking thing behind the iphone in the poster on the wall? If it is to scale with the iphone, then it is about 7-8" or so.

:apple:

I also can see it but don t understand...:confused:

a Macbook Mini?:eek:

[Bad Paper]

That's the accelerometer icon.ah, thanks. I don't own an iPhone (yet, heh heh), so I'm not totally familiar with its guts.

[stainlessliquid]

They should be careful with the word "world". The iphone is pretty crappy and only has a fraction of features compared to a lot of Japanese phones. Who are they trying to kid exactly? Really its not even a matter of opinion, its just not possible to argue that its more advanced than other phones in asian countries.

Americas most advanced phone? Sure. Europe's most advanced phone? Maybe after 3g, right now its doing very bad there. Asia's most advanced phone? Well thats just funny.

[Sky Blue]

Maybe we can put all that Golden Gate bridge nonsense to rest now.

Two Bridges = Two Platforms


now, where's those black sheet covered banners!

[kbmb]

Well...safe to say that Apple will ride the OS X marketing train for a while.

OS X iPhone
OS X Leopard

First time I've seen the iPhone with OS X before it.

Clearly this represents the 2 bridges as OS X.

-Kevin

[lunarworks]

My reaction?

Why is it no longer called "MacOS X"? It's only "OS X" now? Does this... mean something? (I thought it was "MacOS X" / "TouchOS X")

[cdecrosta]

Does anyone know if they are going to even announce anything big on monday because that is just when it starts they don't have to announce anything the first day?

[billystlyes]

Why is this considered news?

1. To build excitement for the WWDC.

2. Slow news day.

3. See number 2. :D

[Watabou]

Does anyone know if they are going to even announce anything big on monday because that is just when it starts they don't have to announce anything the first day?

No Steve Jobs will actually give his keynote on that day.

[milo]

Anyone else thinking this whole "snow leopard" thing isn't the next gen of mac OSX, but instead it's the *mobile* version of osx?

[geerlingguy]

Why are these photos always so itsy-bitsy? I can't imagine Crunchgear is having bandwidth troubles... maybe they could have the picture link to a *bigger* picture rather than one that's the same size.

EDIT: Whoops, I'm an idiot:
http://flickr.com/photos/gernot/2554181096/sizes/o/

[inkswamp]

Newsflash: Apple plans to talk about their operating system at WWDC. Film at 11.

;)

[El Carbonite]

My reaction?

Why is it no longer called "MacOS X"? It's only "OS X" now? Does this... mean something? (I thought it was "MacOS X" / "TouchOS X")

It was never called either, it was always called Mac OS X. The iPhone OS never had a name until now though (I'm pretty sure).

[netdog]

Why did MacRumors post a smaller picture?

http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/scaled2554181096_c27e5bcc7e_o.jpg

Clearly these are the two bridges... OS X Leopard and OS X iPhone. I am thinking that .Mac will evolve into me.com and mobileme.com and there will be some sort of juggling of data to present and manage data appropriately for each platform in .Mac's backend.

[phalewhale]

What is the macbook air looking thing behind the iphone in the poster on the wall? If it is to scale with the iphone, then it is about 7-8" or so.

:apple:

What if it's the other way round??? Maybe that's a picture of the MacBook Air with the new tablet in front of it...

Just a thought...

[_iCeb0x_]

thanks for the info Steve,

now tell us something we don't know :cool:

Wait until next monday, 10pm PST (or is it PDT)?

[megfilmworks]

..... The iphone is pretty crappy? Well that's just funny!
I fixed your punctuation. :D

[trojan675]

Why does it say "OS X iPhone" and not just "iPhone" or "Apple iPhone"? I know, I know the iPhone has OS X on it, but it still looks strange to me.

because they are updating the iPhone OS
2.0...........

[Bye Bye Baby]

Looks like there is a search icon on the right hand side of the macbook.

I hope that means that there will be a full functional search (spotlight) for the iphone.

[Sky Blue]

What's the orange icon on the right side?

[megfilmworks]

That's the accelerometer icon.

Maybe, but it could be a GPS icon as it looks similar to a GPS fix (waypoint) icon.

[_iCeb0x_]

Because now it's a development platform. It wasn't last year. This is a developers convention. Not a consumer one.

Just to tease those people craving for a new Newton, I would say: if OS X iPhone is now a platform, wouldn't that imply that there'll be more diverse hardware products for it?

I mean to ask: as it is -- one single model of a hardware product (iPhone), plus a software product (OS X for iPhone) --, would it constitute a real platform? I guess so, but...

Maybe the platform is gaining more hardware options next Monday, eh?

[trojan675]

^^agree
It almost feels like they are only gonna relese v2 software (its unlikly, i know...)

They are releaseing iPhone 2.0 software!
Enterprise, App Store, most likely 3G with new base-apps(video, Im, zoom)

[Hattig]

Hello?

<whisper>Solid tip this, next week, the 4.20 at Newmarket, the 50:1 horse, "'aving a laugh".</whisper>

Back on topic, yeah, they're setting up the venue. They've used current iPhone images, nothing there. We know there are two OS X branches, nothing new there. Nothing at all, really.

[trojan675]

What is this mystery icon on the side wall banner? I've never seen it.

probably just an app thats gonna be released in the store day 1

[JRomero]

Via Flickr:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/JasonRocks/2554181096_872e6944f8_b.jpg

[wildcardd]

FAKE!!! It is totally photoshopped. I know, because I am a graphic designer. ;)

[usingpond]

Obviously the rumors about .Mac are right. Something big about the new .Mac and it's integration of the iPhone and OS X is coming.

Look at the graphic on the wall. On the left, we have Leopard's purple color scheme. On the right of the computer, we have .Mac's blue color scheme. And surrounding both the Mac and the iPhone, we have applications. It all makes sense, think about it.

It also makes you think that the new service will have "OS X" somewhere in it, either officially or unofficially. Even if it doesn't, they will place OS X next to it, to reinforce the tight integration of the two other aspects of the relationship.


Apple has needed a serious competitor to Microsoft's Office paradigm. With iWork completely up to spec, all that's left for Apple to convince people are Outlook and Exchange alternatives.

Edit: Under the banner you can see "The world's most advanced ..." so obviously the new .Mac replacement will be the world's most advanced.

[Mr. Giver '94]

Cool.........But the iPhones on the banners are the current models. :( I don't see anything new about them.(no video camera on the front, no 3G symbol/icon in the top status bar, etc.) PPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEE Steve, release the new iPhone on Monday. I think we will start riots if you don't. Torches and pitchforks anyone??:D

[cdecrosta]

No Steve Jobs will actually give his keynote on that day.

Sweet thanks for telling me that i am excited :)

[abijnk]

Well, I'm giddy as a school girl... :D

Couple of FYIs that apparently can't be overstated:
1) Macrumors.com is an Apple news/rumor/follow Steve's every move/let those of us who can't be at WWDC know what's going on site. If you are going to complain about what the founder/owner puts on the front page, then please go start your own site because it doesn't make sense to come to an Apple site and complain about Apple related articles. Thank you if you made it this far. :o :cool:

2) The World Wide Developers Conference is for (wait for it....) developers!!!!! It is not a hardware forum. Thus, while we will more than likely be hearing about hardware related items, the main focus is development of software for all Apple platforms (which now includes the iPhone in case you missed it).

[c073186]

Omfg.. Idk.. Me Ans My Bff Rose Can't Wait For Monday.

I had to re-read that about four times before I understood. ;)

[superman193]

Iphone 2.0? since when was this being released!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!? :eek:

[GradientMac]

What if it's the other way round??? Maybe that's a picture of the MacBook Air with the new tablet in front of it...

Just a thought...

You guys seem to have forgot the laws of perspective, things farther away look smaller. The iPhone is way at the front of the keyboard And the screen is a good 8 inches behind it.


WAIT! UPDATE!

That can't be a MacBook Air... look at the bezel under the screen compared to the side!

http://img.skitch.com/20080605-8g1nsbj2mqr3bjn9ujseud85t5.png
http://img.skitch.com/20080605-1qqjfbiebhcun9f6j87jrx4djw.png

Huh.

[megfilmworks]

Cool.........But the iPhones on the banners are the current models. :( I don't see anything new about them.(no video camera on the front, no 3G symbol/icon in the top status bar, etc.) PPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEE Steve, release the new iPhone on Monday. I think we will start riots if you don't. Torches and pitchforks anyone??:D

This looks like the entrance, registration area.
I doubt they would trump SJ's keynote with pictures of the new products as you walk in.

[BongoBanger]

the "OS X iPhone" banner reads "The world's most advanced mobile platform."

LOLno.

[trojan675]

Obviously the rumors about .Mac are right. Something big about the new .Mac and it's integration of the iPhone and OS X is coming.

Look at the graphic on the wall. On the left, we have Leopard's purple color scheme. On the right of the computer, we have .Mac's blue color scheme. And surrounding both the Mac and the iPhone, we have applications. It all makes sense, think about it.

It also makes you think that the new service will have "OS X" somewhere in it, either officially or unofficially. Even if it doesn't, they will place OS X next to it, to reinforce the tight integration of the two other aspects of the relationship.


Apple has needed a serious competitor to Microsoft's Office paradigm. With iWork completely up to spec, all that's left for Apple to convince people are Outlook and Exchange alternatives.

Edit: Under the banner you can see "The world's most advanced ..." so obviously the new .Mac replacement will be the world's most advanced.


Ya i noticed the blue on the MBA and on the poster on the right wall
could be .Mac
could be somehing new to Leopard
Could be a crappy designers mistake

[El Carbonite]

2) The World Wide Developers Conference is for (wait for it....) developers!!!!! It is not a hardware forum. Thus, while we will more than likely be hearing about hardware related items, the main focus is development of software for all Apple platforms (which now includes the iPhone in case you missed it).

Exactly, but WWDC has been a launch platform for some major hardware announcements including the G5 processor and the Power Mac G5. While we will hear about a 3G iPhone, I doubt it will be announced the same day.

[trojan675]

Cool.........But the iPhones on the banners are the current models. :( I don't see anything new about them.(no video camera on the front, no 3G symbol/icon in the top status bar, etc.) PPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEE Steve, release the new iPhone on Monday. I think we will start riots if you don't. Torches and pitchforks anyone??:D

they wouldnt want to release any pics to soon
and the camera on the front wouldnt be noticeable even if they showed the new version
its a sensor really
under the glass

[_iCeb0x_]

They should be careful with the word "world". The iphone is pretty crappy and only has a fraction of features compared to a lot of Japanese phones. Who are they trying to kid exactly? Really its not even a matter of opinion, its just not possible to argue that its more advanced than other phones in asian countries.

Americas most advanced phone? Sure. Europe's most advanced phone? Maybe after 3g, right now its doing very bad there. Asia's most advanced phone? Well thats just funny.

I kind of agree... But, bear with me: if a multitude of features was any indication of something being "world's best", MS Word would be the world's best word processor...

I know this is not the perfect example and, although I try not to, I am sounding like an Apple fanboy (which I most definitely happen to be). But I think you get the point...

Being the "world's best" or "world's most advanced" can mean a lot of things, including:

1. Being truly revolutionary or innovative;
2. Being truly usable, contrary to some of the most featureful gadgets on the market;
3. Being cooler than any other gadget on the market;
4. All of above.

Certainly, the iPhone fits into some, if not all, of the alternatives above.

[arnette]

On the left, we have Leopard's purple color scheme. On the right of the computer, we have .Mac's blue color scheme. And surrounding both the Mac and the iPhone, we have applications. It all makes sense, think about it.


When you start deciphering color schemes, you know you're reading WAY too much into it.

[Bad Paper]

Apple has needed a serious competitor to Microsoft's Office paradigm. With iWork completely up to spec, all that's left for Apple to convince people are Outlook and Exchange alternatives.erm, uh, iWork is not "completely up to spec." Don't get me wrong, I love iWork, but it cannot yet compete with M$ Orifice. Keynote blows Powerpoint out of the water, and Pages is a joy to use compared to Word, but Numbers...well, I prefer to use Numbers, but it is feature-poor compared to Excel, which is arguably the most important of the Orifice apps. Until Numbers can blow Excel out of the water (give it two years), iWork can't supplant Orifice.

[trojan675]

Just to tease those people craving for a new Newton, I would say: if OS X iPhone is now a platform, wouldn't that imply that there'll be more diverse hardware products for it?

I mean to ask: as it is -- one single model of a hardware product (iPhone), plus a software product (OS X for iPhone) --, would it constitute a real platform? I guess so, but...

Maybe the platform is gaining more hardware options next Monday, eh?

very likely

[dawnrazor]

I think those floors have come up a treat, but it could get messy on Monday when they get slick with 'drool'. Sensible shoes people, and maybe a stick.

[trojan675]

You know what would really suck????????
If WWDC was just for developer to look at the inside of Leapord, look at the new iPhone apps, and advertise old products
No 3G
No new MBs
MBPs
MBAs
MMs
cinema displays
tablets
super iPhones

that would suck

not likely

[MattGTO]

What's the orange icon on the right side?

MMS?

[Shadow]

I hope they don't start calling it "OS X", it doesnt sound 'right'; "Mac OS X" sounds far better.

[knelto]

FAKE!!! It is totally photoshopped. I know, because I am a graphic designer. ;)

It looks Photoshopped. Yeah, the reflections are all wrong. Definitely Photoshopped. I can tell by the pixels...

/xkcd (http://xkcd.com/331/)

[usingpond]

Ya i noticed the blue on the MBA and on the poster on the right wall
could be .Mac
could be somehing new to Leopard
Could be a crappy designers mistake

Apple's designers don't make mistakes. Every single little thing, especially color scheme, has a role. Think about the default Leopard desktop; that uses only Leopard theme colors. So did the Tiger desktop.

This is no mistake. I rarely leap to conclusions about these things, but I feel very confident in my, well, guess I suppose.

Personally I think the new .Mac will either be a helluva lot cheaper or free with OS X and/or iPhones.

[abijnk]

Exactly, but WWDC has been a launch platform for some major hardware announcements including the G5 processor and the Power Mac G5. While we will hear about a 3G iPhone, I doubt it will be announced the same day.

I agree, but my point was that the main banners and things are going to be software/development related and people shouldn't freak out about it. :D

[trojan675]

You guys seem to have forgot the laws of perspective, things farther away look smaller. The iPhone is way at the front of the keyboard And the screen is a good 8 inches behind it.


WAIT! UPDATE!

That can't be a MacBook Air... look at the bezel under the screen compared to the side!

http://img.skitch.com/20080605-8g1nsbj2mqr3bjn9ujseud85t5.png
http://img.skitch.com/20080605-1qqjfbiebhcun9f6j87jrx4djw.png

Huh.




i thought that stood out
but i didnt want to say anything cuz ive never looked at a MBA physically

[Mr. Giver '94]

they wouldnt want to release any pics to soon
and the camera on the front wouldnt be noticeable even if they showed the new version
its a sensor really
under the glass

You're right about leaked pics, but I just REALLY want to see the new phone, like we all do. Also, you might be able to tell about the camera in the front because the ear piece/sensor area in rumored pics is longer than the current version, but idk my BFF Rose who's other BFF is Jill who goes WAYYYYYYYYYYYY over on txting just like me. LOLOLOL:eek:

[GradientMac]

You guys seem to have forgot the laws of perspective, things farther away look smaller. The iPhone is way at the front of the keyboard And the screen is a good 8 inches behind it.


WAIT! UPDATE!

That can't be a MacBook Air... look at the bezel under the screen compared to the side!

http://img.skitch.com/20080605-8g1nsbj2mqr3bjn9ujseud85t5.png
http://img.skitch.com/20080605-1qqjfbiebhcun9f6j87jrx4djw.png

Huh.

Anybody else notice this?

[usingpond]

When you start deciphering color schemes, you know you're reading WAY too much into it.

With any other company I would agree with you. But with Apple, and to a designer like myself, color scheme is key to many aspects of your work.

[benlee]

My question is that this seems to indicate that the iPhone OS is officially called OS X iPhone. However, what about the iPod Touch; it runs the same OS.

I would think they would name it something else to include the Touch plus any other "touch" hardware.

Why not "OS X Touch" and "OS X Leopard"?

[Kar98]

What if it's the other way round??? Maybe that's a picture of the MacBook Air with the new tablet in front of it...

Just a thought...

Actually, that's the new iMac Air. You heard it here first, kids.

[usingpond]

Anybody else notice this?

I thought you were joking. Weren't you talking about perspective earlier?!

Edit: whoops, didn't realize you were quoting yourself.

[megfilmworks]

It reads:
"The world's most advanced mobile platform."
Not "... phone."
There may be a few more advanced mobile phones,
but not a more advanced mobile platform.... big difference.

[shawnce]

Cool, maybe this DOES mean news about both! Uh the whole WWDC (a week long developer conference) is essentially all about Mac and iPhone.

[benlee]

It reads:
"The world's most advanced mobile platform."
Not "... phone."
There may be a few more advance mobile phones,
but not a more advanced mobile platform.... big difference.

You, my friend, are a genius. And I don't think anyone can argue that OS X iPhone is not the most advanced mobile platform.

[Erwin-Br]

Anybody else notice this?

Looks like the perspective is off because the canvas is curved, or they made a printing mistake. It does not mean that the original picture is not a MBA.

--Erwin

[Heraklitus]

Someone tell me what "advanced" means.

[F0l3ert]

The hype is building up :)

[inkswamp]

You guys seem to have forgot the laws of perspective, things farther away look smaller. The iPhone is way at the front of the keyboard And the screen is a good 8 inches behind it.


WAIT! UPDATE!

That can't be a MacBook Air... look at the bezel under the screen compared to the side!

http://img.skitch.com/20080605-8g1nsbj2mqr3bjn9ujseud85t5.png
http://img.skitch.com/20080605-1qqjfbiebhcun9f6j87jrx4djw.png

Huh.

The picture of the banner is taken at an angle causing foreshortening that makes the edge look smaller than the bottom. It's a MacBook Air.

[eyephone]

Anybody else notice this?

I think this picture is stretched. Look at the width (or height in this picture) of the Iphone, and look at the icons on the wall, they are not square. The rim on the macbook air is taller also, making me think that this picture was taken by a crappy camera or phone camera, that distorted the aspect of the photo.

Either way, if they are going to release a new product, it will not be on the entrance banner for WWDC08, it will be a surprise in Jobs' keynote.

[trojan675]

I FOUND SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!
okay
look at the poster with all of the app icons on the wall
look at the computer(almost looks like MBA)
now
on the right there is a new button(has already been addressed on the post)
NOW......
look at the screen, it doesnt line up with the supossive keyboard
i think it could be a tablet on its charger

thoughts?

[Kar98]

Someone tell me what "advanced" means.

Everybody but Apple's already got it, but Apple's gonna make it mo' shiny. BOOM! Isn't that cool?

[Lonon]

It's Apple related, it just happened, it's about WWDC on Monday.

You do realize that's what this website is about, right? Mac Rumors? Mac Community Discussion? Innuendo? Hints? Allegations better left unsaid sometimes? That sorta thing?

I really enjoyed reading that. ;)

++

[GradientMac]

I thought you were joking. Weren't you talking about perspective earlier?!

Edit: whoops, didn't realize you were quoting yourself.

No, I'm not, look at the picture, the bezel is the same length on the sides in the real MBA, in the banner, the sides are WAY shorter then the bottom bezel, and if the MBA was tilted, then only one side would have that effect, same with the banner being tilted.

[extraextra]

MMS?

Omg. Don't get our hopes up like that!

[yoyo5280]

Ug the wait is killing me. Ill find a way to watch it at two in the bloody morning.

That yellow iPhone iCOn looks like it has a fingerprint on it.

[jbaird77]

so lemme get this straight...

new 3G iPhone (extremely highly rumored, basically a fact)

phone/touch firmware 2.0 (extremely highly rumored, basically a fact)

MobileMe (highly rumored)

Mac OSX 10.6 "Snow-Leopard" CODENAME (rumored somewhat high)

MacOSX-esque tablet (decently rumored)

New Macbook/Macbook Pros (rumored, low-medium ranked)



anyone think that is a little bit too much for WWDC? I mean, whoa lol. If they announce even 60% of those, I will be amazed :P

[usingpond]

No, I'm not, look at the picture, the bezel is the same length on the sides in the real MBA, in the banner, the sides are WAY shorter then the bottom bezel, and if the MBA was tilted, then only one side would have that effect, same with the banner being tilted.


Made Exhibit B in Photoshop just now:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/usingpond/perspective.png

[applemax]

Cool.........But the iPhones on the banners are the current models. :( I don't see anything new about them.(no video camera on the front, no 3G symbol/icon in the top status bar, etc.) PPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEE Steve, release the new iPhone on Monday. I think we will start riots if you don't. Torches and pitchforks anyone??:D

Don't worry - I'm sure it'll be there. They're not exactly going to reveal the new iPhone on a poster, are they. :D

[lunarworks]

It was never called either, it was always called Mac OS X. The iPhone OS never had a name until now though (I'm pretty sure).

Yes, but what I was saying is that now it appears to be simply "OS X". No "Mac" in the name.

This could imply that OS X will be employed beyond the Mac.

(But if they're going that route on naming conventions, why is the other called "OSX iPhone" if it's not just on the iPhone...)

[officerdick]

Am I the only one noticing the obvious?
It looks like we have an MacBook Pro redesign here!

Take a look at right side of the MacBook Air on the big banner, it's tapering is close to the current MacBook Air, if not similar:
http://i30.tinypic.com/2qmm894.jpg

Now look at the left side, we se a slightly different tapering, and a darker color:
http://aronallen.com/macrumors/mb.jpg

Current MacBook Air:
http://aronallen.com/macrumors/mba.jpg

Current MacBook Pro:
http://aronallen.com/macrumors/mbp.jpg

Current MacBook:
http://aronallen.com/macrumors/mbb.jpg


it doesn't match any of Apple's shipping notebooks, is this the new MacBook Pro?

[GradientMac]

No, I'm not, look at the picture, the bezel is the same length on the sides in the real MBA, in the banner, the sides are WAY shorter then the bottom bezel, and if the MBA was tilted, then only one side would have that effect, same with the banner being tilted.


http://img.skitch.com/20080605-nptg4ku1ktnr1x7xr4pk4ne7y5.png

While perspective may enhance it, look at the sides. They ARE shorter. Maybe the MBA is stretched or something, but the sides ARE shorter on the side.

See?

[abijnk]

Someone tell me what "advanced" means.

Gladly! Courtesy of Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/advanced)

Main Entry:
ad·vanced
Function:
adjective
Date:
1534

1: far on in time or course <a man advanced in years>2 a: being beyond others in progress or ideas <tastes a bit too advanced for the times> b: being beyond the elementary or introductory <advanced chemistry> c: greatly developed beyond an initial stage <the most advanced scientific methods> <advanced weapons systems> d: much evolved from an early ancestral type <bees and other advanced insects> <advanced traits>

[Zeegler]

I have 3 words to describe that "fat" iPhone lookalike on its side:

iPod Touch Nano!

[pik.]

You guys seem to have forgot the laws of perspective, things farther away look smaller. The iPhone is way at the front of the keyboard And the screen is a good 8 inches behind it.


WAIT! UPDATE!

That can't be a MacBook Air... look at the bezel under the screen compared to the side!

http://img.skitch.com/20080605-8g1nsbj2mqr3bjn9ujseud85t5.png
http://img.skitch.com/20080605-1qqjfbiebhcun9f6j87jrx4djw.png

Huh.


that s what I also saw...;)

been donig the comparison from that and the Air and just doesn t match!:eek:

[Eduardo1971]

nothing new to see here, move along.

:rolleyes:
This has to be one the dumbest replies floating on MR at the current moment...well that and the whole "Safari is snappier" comments.

[hobbbz]

Lets all calm down.

Here is the banner with perspective removed. It is an MBA

[Phil A.]

Anybody else notice this?

If you really want to fan the flames of the rumor mill, don't you think it's suspicious that the iPhone blocks out the name of the machine it's in front of?
On a more serious note, whilst the bottom of the Bezel is wider than the sides on the Air, there is a much more glaring difference, and that it the thickness of the front edge of the machine. I'm sat typing this on my MBA, and there is no way the front edge is anywhere near as wide as that on the poster. Added to that is the dimensions of the IR sensor on the right hand front edge: On the MBA it's much thinner, wider and further to the left than the one on the photo.

I've attached a couple of images to illustrate what I mean:
The first one is from the poster, the second one is an MBA from Apple's site. It could be perspective, but there's quite a difference...

[ipedro]

Am I the only one noticing the obvious?
It looks like we have an MacBook Pro redesign here!

Take a look at right side of the MacBook Air on the big banner, it's tapering is close to the current MacBook Air, if not similar:
http://i30.tinypic.com/2qmm894.jpg

Now look at the left side, we se a slightly different tapering, and a darker color:
http://aronallen.com/macrumors/mb.jpg

Current MacBook Air:
http://aronallen.com/macrumors/mba.jpg

Current MacBook Pro:
http://aronallen.com/macrumors/mbp.jpg

Current MacBook:
http://aronallen.com/macrumors/mbb.jpg


it doesn't match any of Apple's shipping notebooks, is this the new MacBook Pro?

Good comparison. Thanks for compiling that. It is indeed a new thicker computer. That is not the MacBook Air.

Looks like my wish is coming true. New MacBook Pro on Tuesday! :-)

I'm barely puffing along with my first gen MBP. My Aperture library has gotten my HDD down to 5GB available :(

Also: funny how the MBA actually makes the current MBP look quite fat. Amazing. Just a couple of years ago, I was so impressed at how slim the MBP was.

[extraextra]

What's the orange icon on the right side?

Oh, someone said it was the "Cocoa Touch" icon. That sounds more logical.

I think yuo guys are analyzing the MBA picture too much... it's probably natural distortion from the camera lens and the fact that it's a piece of canvas hanging on the wall.

[powderblue17]

Why does Apple call it OS X iPhone when it runs on the iPod Touch also? Wouldn't OS X Mobile be more appropiate or is the iPod Touch just the red-headed stepchild that Apple hardly notices.

[GradientMac]

Lets all calm down.

Here is the banner with perspective removed. It is an MBA

The sides are still shorter...

[Zeegler]

Lets all calm down.

Here is the banner with perspective removed. It is an MBA

are you a wizard or something? removing perspective? must be some sort of black magic!

[pik.]

You guys seem to have forgot the laws of perspective, things farther away look smaller. The iPhone is way at the front of the keyboard And the screen is a good 8 inches behind it.


WAIT! UPDATE!

That can't be a MacBook Air... look at the bezel under the screen compared to the side!

http://img.skitch.com/20080605-8g1nsbj2mqr3bjn9ujseud85t5.png
http://img.skitch.com/20080605-1qqjfbiebhcun9f6j87jrx4djw.png

Huh.


that s what I also saw...;)

been doing the comparison from that and the Air and just doesn t match!:eek:

[abijnk]

Maybe I am extremely pessimistic, but I think its slightly obvious that the banner is distorted, for whatever reason. The iPhone looks fatter (wider), and the screen on the Air is messed up because everything seems to be stretched vertically. Even, the icons appear stretched just enough to make them look a little off...

Please don't tell me you guys really think that Apple, a super secretive company by any standard, is going to put up uncovered banners of a new product before its announced in plain enough view that a photographer can get good pictures of it... Please, for the love of The Steve tell me you don't really think that... :rolleyes:

[benlee]

Lets get real here people! Apple is not going to display a picture of a new product 3 days before the event for everyone to see!

Its a GRAPHIC of the Macbook Air. It is not going to look like a perfect photograph.

If the picture was it then that means the new iPhone is going to be about the size of a person.

[inkswamp]

Lets all calm down.

Here is the banner with perspective removed. It is an MBA

Thank you! I posted the same and was ignored. I can't believe so many people here can't figure that out. It's called foreshortening and happens with imagery viewed from an angle.

That's it. Mystery solved.

And anyway, when was the last time Apple prominently displayed a new product on a banner pre-WWDC without covering it up and surrounding it with armed guards? :D

[trevorlsciact]

the most interesting thing here is "OS X Leopard" instead of "Mac OS X Leopard" I wonder if they are gonna start rebranding their OS?

[razorianfly]

Why does Apple call it OS X iPhone when it runs on the iPod Touch also? Wouldn't OS X Mobile be more appropiate or is the iPod Touch just the red-headed stepchild that Apple hardly notices.

Or even better ... Snow Leopard ... why not? - Both devices run leopard, and as you said it's a sort of step-child to iPhone.

R-Fly

[hobbbz]

The sides are still shorter...

It's not perfect, but I'm telling you 100% this is an MBA. If you can't see what perspective is doing and visualize what the poster would look like if you were looking straight at it, then you will never get it.

[usingpond]

Good comparison. Thanks for compiling that. It is indeed a new thicker computer. That is not the MacBook Air.

Looks like my wish is coming true. New MacBook Pro on Tuesday! :-)

I'm barely puffing along with my first gen MBP. My Aperture library has gotten my HDD down to 5GB available :(

Also: funny how the MBA actually makes the current MBP look quite fat. Amazing. Just a couple of years ago, I was so impressed at how slim the MBP was.

To settle this debate once and for all, I will take a page from CSI:

"ENHANCE"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/usingpond/ENHANCE.png


Edit: There's still a bit of distortion there due to laziness. But you still cannot deny this irrefutable proof! Look at everything else, they all pretty much match up exactly.

2nd edit: I have bigger if you need.

[G4DP]

http://img.skitch.com/20080605-nptg4ku1ktnr1x7xr4pk4ne7y5.png

While perspective may enhance it, look at the sides. They ARE shorter. Maybe the MBA is stretched or something, but the sides ARE shorter on the side.

See?

You my friend need to get a girlfriend or a life, hell go for both.

[xnu]

The iphone at the front of the long banner also has odd proportions, longer and thinner perhaps..... Its in front of the orange logo....It may be the perspective but does anyone else think it looks different?

[yagran]

Anybody else notice this?

notice it i did, but the iphone is clearly looking stretched because of the perspective and consequently so is the screen edge.

[theheadguy]

Please don't tell me you guys really think that Apple, a super secretive company by any standard, is going to put up uncovered banners of a new product before its announced in plain enough view that a photographer can get good pictures of it... Please, for the love of The Steve tell me you don't really think that... :rolleyes:
oh but they do, and 20 photoshoppers have gone to work to prove it. guess the sign covering guy feel asleep on his lunch hour.

yeah, right.

[Kebabselector]

The sides are still shorter...

They've shaved 5mm off each side (and a bit off the rear of the case) to make it more ultra portable (eeePC like). This'll be the MacBook Air short back and sides edition, guaranteed to be a hit with the hairdressers out there.

[rckstwrz]

Yeah, how dare they post it on macnews.com ... oh wait, this is macRUMORS.com. I guess technically this isn't a rumor either, as they don't conjecture anything based on the banners. That's where we come in!

I think "OS X iPhone" means that everyone who buys/bought Leopard gets a free iPhone. And a Leopard.

I heard Apple has a massive shipment of Leopards coming in from Taiwan on Monday. Coincidence?

[MacGohil]

You guys seem to have forgot the laws of perspective, things farther away look smaller. The iPhone is way at the front of the keyboard And the screen is a good 8 inches behind it.


WAIT! UPDATE!

That can't be a MacBook Air... look at the bezel under the screen compared to the side!

http://img.skitch.com/20080605-8g1nsbj2mqr3bjn9ujseud85t5.png
http://img.skitch.com/20080605-1qqjfbiebhcun9f6j87jrx4djw.png

Huh.

Second that! The thick bezel cannot be a poster designers mistake.... when the design supervisors are the big shots from Apple.... Got to imply something shiny, something new, something :apple:

[Riemann Zeta]

So it seems like rumours of Leopard's demise have been greatly exaggerated. I think all the news sites may have been a little premature to jump on this "multiple versions of OS X simultaneously" bit. And all these super-zoomed-in photos and analysis of the boarder thickness of what could maybe be a MacBook Air...or could be an "unidentified flying mac"...is hilarious.

[usingpond]

To settle this debate once and for all, I will take a page from CSI:

"ENHANCE"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/usingpond/ENHANCE.png


Edit: There's still a bit of distortion there due to laziness. But you still cannot deny this irrefutable proof! Look at everything else, they all pretty much match up exactly.

2nd edit: I have bigger if you need.


Just wanted to emphasize this, in case anyone missed it. When you distort a picture like this through perspective, the planes (X and Y) distort at differing degrees. Anyone else who does design, especially 3D design, will confirm this.

[GradientMac]

Maybe I am extremely pessimistic, but I think its slightly obvious that the banner is distorted, for whatever reason. The iPhone looks fatter (wider), and the screen on the Air is messed up because everything seems to be stretched vertically. Even, the icons appear stretched just enough to make them look a little off...

Please don't tell me you guys really think that Apple, a super secretive company by any standard, is going to put up uncovered banners of a new product before its announced in plain enough view that a photographer can get good pictures of it... Please, for the love of The Steve tell me you don't really think that... :rolleyes:

No, I don't think that. It's a bad picture, and there are people debating over it- it's not 'obviously' something other then a MacBook air, but it LOOKS like it. This is a rumour site, let us discuss them...

[usingpond]

No, I don't think that. It's a bad picture, and there are people debating over it- it's not 'obviously' something other then a MacBook air, but it LOOKS like it. This is a rumour site, let us discuss them...

I disagree with your opinion about the MacBook Air, but I agree with your post.

[Kwill]

Ooo! Ahhh! A banner! OS X Leopard. Is that out now? And Apple has a mobile platform? This is exciting. Can someone tell me again what will be discussed at WWDC? :rolleyes:

[abijnk]

They've shaved 5mm off each side (and a bit off the rear of the case) to make it more ultra portable (eeePC like). This'll be the MacBook Air short back and sides edition, guaranteed to be a hit with the hairdressers out there.

Your sheer mastery of sarcasm brings a tear to my eyes. Thank you for bringing something so beautiful into my day. ;)


But seriously, I can't wait for this! I have been without a mac (mobile or otherwise) since I sold my iPhone and air to make money to move to CA, and I can't wait to buy a new 3G iPhone!

Does anyone know if there is a compiled list of people known to be writing for the iphone on the net somewhere? It will be really cool to see who all (major developers like EA and otherwise) is writing for the iPhone now and to see this thing stretch its legs a little more than what the jailbreaking community has provided.

[Masquerade]

Anybody else notice this?

Is not the MacBook air bezel! it's a tablet hidden behind the macbook air.

[GradientMac]

You my friend need to get a girlfriend or a life, hell go for both.

I'm gay, and I've got a life- I can't debate a rumour on a rumour site...?

[netdog]

Well, I'm giddy as a school girl... :D

Couple of FYIs that apparently can't be overstated:
1) Macrumors.com is an Apple news/rumor/follow Steve's every move/let those of us who can't be at WWDC know what's going on site. If you are going to complain about what the founder/owner puts on the front page, then please go start your own site because it doesn't make sense to come to an Apple site and complain about Apple related articles. Thank you if you made it this far. :o :cool:


Huh? Seems a bit OT to me, but hey. The girl's giddiness must be gettin' to her, and after all, who can blame her?

4 more days! Let's hope it turns out to be worth the wait.

[extraextra]

guess the sign covering guy feel asleep on his lunch hour.


LOL

I do think that the MBP's are long overdue for an update/redesign but it'll probably come later this year.

[Kwill]

Just wanted to emphasize this, in case anyone missed it. When you distort a picture like this through perspective, the planes (X and Y) distort at differing degrees. Anyone else who does design, especially 3D design, will confirm this.

It's called foreshortening (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_(graphical)#Foreshortening).

[cstromme]

Anybody else notice this?

It's the Leopard color and the Leopard Server color.

[razorianfly]

Why does Apple feature (what we think is) the 'Accelerometer' icon so prominently on one of the higher floors I wonder?

Significant?

Credit: Gernot Poetsch (http://flickr.com/photos/gernot/sets/) of Flickr.

R-Fly

[teasphere]

Anybody else notice this?

If you look at the MBA and the iPhone they are both stretched vertically making them thicker in the banner. When you stretch the vertical sides stay the same width but the horizontal bezel gets thicker.

I personally think it is perspective causing it. Else, the MBA is not much wider than the iPhone laying down which would mean a UMPC MBA, that I would knock old women down a flight of stairs for.

[Zeegler]

Maybe the REAL new iPhone is on a banner BEHIND that banner, and during the keynote, the FAKE banner will drop?

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[GradientMac]

It's the Leopard color and the Leopard Server color.

Oh, so the thinner bezel is the Leopard colour, and the thicker one is the Server colour? I'm assuming then, that the odd size of the iPhone is actually the new "Snow Leopard" colour?

That was the most insightful thing I've read all day. I am a complete person now.

[deathshrub]

MMS?

More like Cocoa Touch.


Maybe the REAL new iPhone is on a banner BEHIND that banner, and during the keynote, the FAKE banner will drop?

And maybe monkeys will fly out of my butt.

[Zeegler]

More like Cocoa Touch.




And maybe monkeys will fly out of my butt.

Hmm...I like monkeys AND I like butts :D

[quinney]

Why does Apple feature (what we think is) the 'Accelerometer' icon so prominently on one of the higher floors I wonder?

Significant?

Credit: Gernot Poetsch (http://flickr.com/photos/gernot/sets/) of Flickr.

R-Fly

Accelerometers are important to game developers, and it is a
developers' conference?

[usingpond]

Oh, so the thinner bezel is the Leopard colour, and the thicker one is the Server colour? I'm assuming then, that the odd size of the iPhone is actually the new "Snow Leopard" colour?

That was the most insightful thing I've read all day. I am a complete person now.

Hey, man. Just wondering what your opinion was of the alteration I made?

[arnette]

Are people suggesting that a new Macbook Air form factor is being released soon? That's ridiculous.

[Virgil-TB2]

Well rumors indicate that they're upgrading the iPhone case as well - wouldn't that make these posters obsolete, since they display the old iPhone...???Nah, if you look close they only show the iPhone from the front which is not likely to change even with the new model.

[Macmaniac]

I think Macrumors needs to be rebranded as iPhonerumors.com.


Sarcasm aside, should be interesting what comes of this, I hope the keynote talks about some stuff other then iPhone.

[barabics]

Omfg.. Idk.. Me Ans My Bff Rose Can't Wait For Monday.

Ttyl

Comments like that really make me wish these threads were setup like Digg, so I could vote you down.

[abijnk]

Huh? Seems a bit OT to me, but hey. The girl's giddiness must be gettin' to her, and after all, who can blame her?

4 more days! Let's hope it turns out to be worth the wait.

That was directed to the people in this thread (and many other recent threads) that seem to think its cool to complain about the fact that this made front page news on Macrumors. :)

[oli2140]

Maybe the REAL new iPhone is on a banner BEHIND that banner, and during the keynote, the FAKE banner will drop?

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[benlee]

Nah, if you look close they only show the iPhone from the front which is not likely to change even with the new model.

Or considering the fact that OS X iPhone will run on the current iPhone just as it will the new one. These are posters to dazzle up the conference. They are not a substitute for the Keynote. You think Steve is going to let a poster steal away the spotlight?

Why are people putting so much emphasis on these lobby posters?

[netdog]

that s what I also saw...;)

been doing the comparison from that and the Air and just doesn t match!:eek:

Not sure that is different enough, but maybe...

http://images.apple.com/macbookair/images/design_displayair20080115.jpg

[Zeegler]

ZOMG! New 3G iPhone will have larger screen! Spy shot below:

http://www.phonenews.com/images/2007/6/iphone-display-photo.jpg

[cstromme]

Oh, so the thinner bezel is the Leopard colour, and the thicker one is the Server colour? I'm assuming then, that the odd size of the iPhone is actually the new "Snow Leopard" colour?

That was the most insightful thing I've read all day. I am a complete person now.

No need to be a jerk, I quoted the wrong post. I was of course referring to the colors on the side of the laptop.

[netdog]

ZOMG! New 3G iPhone will have larger screen! Spy shot below:

http://www.phonenews.com/images/2007/6/iphone-display-photo.jpg

Page 1 for sure Arn!

[usingpond]

Not sure that is different enough, but maybe...

http://images.apple.com/macbookair/images/design_displayair20080115.jpg


Jesus Christ, you people. I spent like five minutes in Photoshop to prove once and for all that it's just a MacBook Air (it's a page back). No one has even mentioned it, is this cognitive dissonance or something? At least call it BS, anything.

[rhett7660]

Oh man this is getting good!!!! Just a few more days.

[netdog]

Jesus Christ, you people. I spent like five minutes in Photoshop to prove once and for all that it's just a MacBook Air (it's a page back). No one has even mentioned it, is this cognitive dissonance or something? At least call it BS, anything.

Can you ever forgive us? Pardon our sins father. Please. :rolleyes:

[usingpond]

Can you ever forgive us? Pardon our sins father. Please. :rolleyes:

You are still avoiding the issue!

[toxicbomber]

I have "aquired" the banner for the iPhone in the back:
http://img.skitch.com/20080605-e194m2ttcaxsmet8b1txcaedp8.png
Do I get a cookie? :D Now it's time to recreate the macbook air banner! This will take awhile.. LOL!

[netdog]

You are still avoiding the issue!

If people want to think that it may be a new MacBook of MacBook Pro, that's what they are going to think.

[benlee]

Jesus Christ, you people. I spent like five minutes in Photoshop to prove once and for all that it's just a MacBook Air (it's a page back). No one has even mentioned it, is this cognitive dissonance or something? At least call it BS, anything.

They are in denial.

Apple is not going to have 4 notebook computers. Now the only thing it could possibly be (other than a macbook air) is a new design of an existing notebook. However, the fact that it looks virtually exactly like a macbook Air and is in the lobby in plain sight 3 days before the keynote I'm going to go out on a limb and say.....it is a Macbook Hydrogen. (lighter than Air).

If I see one more picture of the poster of the Macbook Air I'm going to flip out and take my aggression out on my girlfriend. You wouldn't want to be responsible for that would you (no not you usingpond?

[queshy]

Two things for certain:

1) No new iPod socks.
2) No PowerBook G5.
:mad:

[deputy_doofy]

Damn that Apple. Now I'm really excited about buying this iPhone.

The pro: I've really abused my current Nokia flip phone to the point where the top part is hanging on by a few threads, so I have a great excuse to buy a new phone. :D

The con: Thanks to my promotion (yes, that, too, is a pro :D :D), I have no time to sit on macrumorslive and watch the announcement info. :(

[usingpond]

If people want to think that it may be a new MacBook of MacBook Pro, that's what they are going to think.

Amen to that. I just don't see the point in only analyzing some of the presented evidence. Well actually, yeah I do now.

[FetalSage]

Is it me, or does that Macbook Air look a little white?

[Virgil-TB2]

Just to tease those people craving for a new Newton, I would say: if OS X iPhone is now a platform, wouldn't that imply that there'll be more diverse hardware products for it?

I mean to ask: as it is -- one single model of a hardware product (iPhone), plus a software product (OS X for iPhone) --, would it constitute a real platform? I guess so, but...

Maybe the platform is gaining more hardware options next Monday, eh?Not to be too much of a downer, but it could also indicate the exact opposite or anything in between.

If there was going to be a Newton, it would make more sense to brand the new "branch" of OS X "OS X Mobile" (or similar) than "OS X iPhone." The later implies that it will run on iPhones only.

Conversely, it's also more likely, by the same logic, that if there is a Newton it will be using "OS X Leopard." Because a tablet is not a telephone, it's closer to being a "Mac," and we already know that multi-touch is going into both "branches" of the OS.

[Tallest Skil]

Is it me, or does that Macbook Air look a little white?

It's you. Don't you DARE start that up again.

It's an Air. NOT the redesigned MacBook Pro, NOT the redesigned MacBook.

[usingpond]

Is it me, or does that Macbook Air look a little white?

Here we go.

[queshy]

you people are crazy. you actually thing they're going to redesign the MBA before anything else? There are so many other things that need updating!!

[The General]

Calm down, kids. It's just a MacBook Air.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/paloooz/macbookair.jpg

[MattGTO]

Maybe I am extremely pessimistic, but I think its slightly obvious that the banner is distorted, for whatever reason. The iPhone looks fatter (wider), and the screen on the Air is messed up because everything seems to be stretched vertically. Even, the icons appear stretched just enough to make them look a little off...

Please don't tell me you guys really think that Apple, a super secretive company by any standard, is going to put up uncovered banners of a new product before its announced in plain enough view that a photographer can get good pictures of it... Please, for the love of The Steve tell me you don't really think that... :rolleyes:

But of course you are wrong because people don't want to believe it.

[Rocketman]

Let's review.

Thurdsay: Mysterious boxes clog warehouses worldwide, over 181 sea containers by one momentary count.

Monday: Apple announces a product.

Tuesday: Over a half million products ordered worldwide.
Over 100,000 products ship to "special" customers identified by an Apple developed data mining application, but who order through "normal channels".
Apple servers "jam" twice during the day. The "cloud" is blamed. The interpipes are jammed.

Wednesday: over 200,000 products ship. Over 50,000 units are sold at Apple and AT&T stores. More ordered.

Thursday: over 400,000 products ship today as well. More ordered. Over 50,000 units are sold at Apple and AT&T stores.

Friday: Putin is seen in Russia with an iPhone.

Rocketman

[milo]

Are people suggesting that a new Macbook Air form factor is being released soon? That's ridiculous.

No, I think people are speculating that it could be an updated Macbook with styling similar to the air.

[RoboCop001]

Not to be too much of a downer, but it could also indicate the exact opposite or anything in between.

If there was going to be a Newton, it would make more sense to brand the new "branch" of OS X "OS X Mobile" (or similar) than "OS X iPhone." The later implies that it will run on iPhones only.

Conversely, it's also more likely, by the same logic, that if there is a Newton it will be using "OS X Leopard." Because a tablet is not a telephone, it's closer to being a "Mac," and we already know that multi-touch is going into both "branches" of the OS.

The weird thing is... why call it OS X iPhone if it also goes on the iPod touch? lol

iPod touch isn't an iPhone... and I doubt they'll have a separate name and call it OS X iPod touch.

Maybe it is the name, though. Or maybe they just mean OS X on the iPhone and the new name is yet to be announced.... maybe... lol

[Kebabselector]

Your sheer mastery of sarcasm brings a tear to my eyes. Thank you for bringing something so beautiful into my day. ;)

Sorry about that, being born into a Monty Python country does that to you!

But seriously, I can't wait for this! I have been without a mac (mobile or otherwise) since I sold my iPhone and air to make money to move to CA, and I can't wait to buy a new 3G iPhone!


Lets hope for you they help feed your Mac habit. Should be an interesting few days. I'm not really bothered about the iPhone, for me it's a MacMini or MiniAir that'll make me poorer. I hope Apple keep us all happy.

[The General]

I have "aquired" the banner for the iPhone in the back:
[IMG]http://img.skitch.com/20080605-e194m2ttcaxsmet8b1txcaedp8.png[IMG]
Do I get a cookie? :D Now it's time to recreate the macbook air banner! This will take awhile.. LOL!

The time is wrong. Should be 9:42 AM.

[usingpond]

Calm down, kids. It's just a MacBook Air.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/paloooz/macbookair.jpg

Thanks for the backup, but evidence here is meaningless.

[krye]

Is it just me or is the iPhone in front of the Air waaaay to big to be an iPhone? Looks like a 7" display to me. Maybe it's just an optical illusion.

[netdog]

I'm getting a terrible feeling that the new iPhone isn't going to be worth upgrading to from the original. Poorer battery life, no GPS and no significant improvement in camera would probably cause me to wait for iPhone3 to trade up.

[GradientMac]

http://img.skitch.com/20080605-gip9danwptr9jpyt8355ybreka.png

HOMAIGAWD. IT EEZ TEH NEW MACBEWK PRO!1 THINNER THEN TEH AIR!!123?*(&%

[toxicbomber]

The time is wrong. Should be 9:42 AM.

DARN IT! :p

[Tallest Skil]

Is it just me or is the iPhone in front of the Air waaaay to big to be an iPhone? Looks like a 7" display to me.

Again, just you.

Next person to start a supposition with "Is it just me" gets reported*. If you think that it's just you, it is.

*Not really. I hate the hype.

[coolant113]

there prolly like cloth posters and underneath them are the real posters with all the new stuff... they probally just press a button and the cloth drops and ta da!.. theres the new products. lol just a thought:apple::apple:

[FetalSage]

It's you. Don't you DARE start that up again.

It's an Air. NOT the redesigned MacBook Pro, NOT the redesigned MacBook.

:| I was just wondering.

[MicahFreak82]

If you really want to fan the flames of the rumor mill, don't you think it's suspicious that the iPhone blocks out the name of the machine it's in front of?
On a more serious note, whilst the bottom of the Bezel is wider than the sides on the Air, there is a much more glaring difference, and that it the thickness of the front edge of the machine. I'm sat typing this on my MBA, and there is no way the front edge is anywhere near as wide as that on the poster. Added to that is the dimensions of the IR sensor on the right hand front edge: On the MBA it's much thinner, wider and further to the left than the one on the photo.

I've attached a couple of images to illustrate what I mean:
The first one is from the poster, the second one is an MBA from Apple's site. It could be perspective, but there's quite a difference...


These posts are getting ridiculous. I do hope for a new mac maybe something like a tablet and a revamped macbook and macbook pro line. Also there is without a doubt that the new iphone will be shown at the wwdc. There are none left anywhere. Apple has to be releasing a new one.

But did anyone notice that the iphone still has at&t as the carrier. I guess that att will be the only carrier in the US. This means that i leaning toward att not subsidizing the iphone but hopefully they will.

[benlee]

No, I think people are speculating that it could be an updated Macbook with styling similar to the air.

except they are overlooking the fact that its is a Macbook Air. I doubt Apple is going to redesign a macbook to look JUST LIKE the Macbook Air. Then what does the Macbook Air get redesigned to look like? A Macbook Pro?

[trojan675]

so lemme get this straight...

new 3G iPhone (extremely highly rumored, basically a fact)

phone/touch firmware 2.0 (extremely highly rumored, basically a fact)

MobileMe (highly rumored)

Mac OSX 10.6 "Snow-Leopard" CODENAME (rumored somewhat high)

MacOSX-esque tablet (decently rumored)

New Macbook/Macbook Pros (rumored, low-medium ranked)


anyone think that is a little bit too much for WWDC? I mean, whoa lol. If they announce even 60% of those, I will be amazed :P





Oh they will mention all of it.
Iphone 3G-100% of it at WWDC
New iPhone software-100%
Mobile me/.Mac- bout 75%-90% of it will b covered
Tablet-45%-75%
new Mac OS X SL-1%-40%
new MBs MBPS mac minis-bout 80%

[toxicbomber]

Again, just you.

Next person to start a supposition with "Is it just me" gets reported*. If you think that it's just you, it is.

*Not really. I hate the hype.

Is it just me or does Safari seem just a LITTLE bit snappier the moment I saw the banners? ;)

[The General]

Is it just me or is the iPhone in front of the Air waaaay to big to be an iPhone? Looks like a 7" display to me.

I dunno.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/paloooz/macbookaircopy.jpg

It's obviously out of scale, unless there's an 11.25" MacBook Air on the way. Then again, it's clearly not parallel projection (the unless the keyboard area is a trapezoid), it may just be the perspective.

[benlee]

Again, just you.

Next person to start a supposition with "Is it just me" gets reported*. If you think that it's just you, it is.

*Not really. I hate the hype.

Is it just me or did I just laugh my ass off?

[toxicbomber]

Is it just me or did I just laugh my ass off?

Beat ya to it. And also I still expect that MacBook touch. :D

[Eddyisgreat]

I have "aquired" the banner for the iPhone in the back:
http://img.skitch.com/20080605-e194m2ttcaxsmet8b1txcaedp8.png
Do I get a cookie? :D Now it's time to recreate the macbook air banner! This will take awhile.. LOL!

Wrong Font.

[kkachurak]

Is it just me or does Safari seem just a LITTLE bit snappier the moment I saw the banners? ;)

I was waiting for someone to say it!

[toxicbomber]

Wrong Font.

Well it isn't Myraid Bold font whatever it's called. ;)

[sushi]

They should be careful with the word "world". The iphone is pretty crappy and only has a fraction of features compared to a lot of Japanese phones. Who are they trying to kid exactly? Really its not even a matter of opinion, its just not possible to argue that its more advanced than other phones in asian countries.

Americas most advanced phone? Sure. Europe's most advanced phone? Maybe after 3g, right now its doing very bad there. Asia's most advanced phone? Well thats just funny.
What does advanced mean?

If it means the number of features, then yes, the Japanese phones have many more than the iPhone currently has. I am sure that iPhone 2 will close that gap a little at least.

However, when it comes to ease of use the iPhone is way ahead of many competing phones -- especially the Japanese ones in which many of them have a terrible interface system. In this regard, the iPhone is way more advanced than most other Japanese phones today, IMHO.

[mciarlo]

I dunno.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/paloooz/macbookaircopy.jpg

It's obviously out of scale, unless there's an 11.25" MacBook Air on the way. Then again, it's clearly not parallel projection (the unless the keyboard area is a trapezoid), it may just be the perspective.


Don't forget the iPhone is at least 8 inches in front of the MacBook Air screen and will therefore not be conducive to a direct comparison. You are probably correct in assuming it's the perspective.

[Eddyisgreat]

Well it isn't Myraid Bold font whatever it's called. ;)

Yeah lol I sounded kinda rude thx for not kicking my butt lol.

Its Myriad Pro Semibold, as illustrated.

[benlee]

This thread has me convinced that Apple must throw information to fuel rumors? Why? to keep people on their toes; to fuel the excitement; to keep people busy for hours analyzing banners; to laugh at us all.

Think about it. How fun would it be to know everything (be Steve) and watch all the idiots (us) play?

Then again...This thread may be proof that Apple doesn't need to do anything to fuel rumors. We fuel rumors. Steve we want on the payroll!

[milo]

except they are overlooking the fact that its is a Macbook Air. I doubt Apple is going to redesign a macbook to look JUST LIKE the Macbook Air. Then what does the Macbook Air get redesigned to look like? A Macbook Pro?

Hey, I'm just explaining. Obviously, there are people on this thread who think it doesn't look like a MBA. And is it really such a stretch to think that apple might take some design cues from the MBA for their other laptops?

[iZac]

Anyone else find it odd that the developers conference posters headline the most consumer based of Apples product line? I know they are the "sexiest" products to show off, but i'd like a bit of Mac Pro loving!

Also, no black sheet banners makes me unhappy in my pants.

[zirkle2007]

This thread has me convinced that Apple must throw information to fuel rumors? Why? to keep people on their toes; to fuel the excitement; to keep people busy for hours analyzing banners; to laugh at us all.

Think about it. How fun would it be to know everything (be Steve) and watch all the idiots (us) play?

Then again...This thread may be proof that Apple doesn't need to do anything to fuel rumors. We fuel rumors. Steve we want on the payroll!

Its also free marketing research. They can pull this up to see what people want without any work.

[Tallest Skil]

Is it just me or did I just laugh my ass off?

Is it just me or does Safari seem just a LITTLE bit snappier the moment I saw the banners? ;)

Is it just me or are you two mocking me? :cool:

That's what I love about the MacRumors bunch; we're all good-natured... except for the people who complain when "their" line isn't updated when there isn't a CPU to upgrade to.:p

[arnette]

Its also free marketing research. They can pull this up to see what people want without any work.

I have a good feeling that most of the people posting here are unemployed students.

[Compile 'em all]

It reads:
"The world's most advanced mobile platform."
Not "... phone."
There may be a few more advance mobile phones,
but not a more advanced mobile platform.... big difference.

It says mobile platform instead of phone platform cause OS X runs on the iPod as well as on the phone.

[mitch88ell]

What is this mystery icon on the side wall banner? I've never seen it.
Well, that is not the icon for the accelerometer on the iPod Touch page. If the iPhone comes with a GPS system...that could be a cross hare icon for it.:apple:

[toxicbomber]

GUYS IT'S THE NEW MACBOOK REVISION! Oh my god why didn't I see it coming?! :eek:

[trojan675]

I think its the tablet, maybe
the screen looks a little more set closer
they rnt showing the dock
and the rest is obscured by thr iphone
think about it

or maybe it is just MBA
or what is left of rosweld

[mmoosa]

if they call it os X iPhone, then wats the ipod touch os called? hmmmm:rolleyes: they are in the same category! i wanna see a new ipod touch to accompany my new iphone :D

[xhambonex]

200+ posts and we still struggle with perspective. IS THIS NOT THE EXACT SAME TYPE OF PICTURE WE ORIGINALLY SAW WHEN WWDC '08 WAS ANNOUNCED?

http://www.melamorsicata.it/mela/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/iphone-wwdc-08.jpg

you tell me that this picture and the banner picture are different, I know, the iPhone isn't centered, but the iphone with a MACBOOK AIR behind it is pretty obvious. If this isn't enough evidence, oh well, rumors make people loose touch of reality around here, myself included, I just knew I have seen that photo before.

[Lyra]

Lets get real here people! Apple is not going to display a picture of a new product 3 days before the event for everyone to see!

Its a GRAPHIC of the Macbook Air. It is not going to look like a perfect photograph.

If the picture was it then that means the new iPhone is going to be about the size of a person.

I Second that!

it's about time we start calming down it really IS just a graphic rendering of the MacBook Air. It's not 100% exact!

But we'll get something soon... I just hope we'll be blown away...

[iZac]

I have a good feeling that most of the people posting here are unemployed students.

I take offense to that :rolleyes: i USED to be an unemployed, penniless, filthy student ... and it was Apple that made me penniless!

[DaBrain]

I think Macrumors needs to be rebranded as iPhonerumors.com.


Sarcasm aside, should be interesting what comes of this, I hope the keynote talks about some stuff other then iPhone.

A big 10-4--)));)

[Spanna]

Has there been any other Apple events where the products on the banners were different then the products introduced during the keynote speech? The iphone pictured in the banner looks exactly like the current version and there is no front facing camera.

[cal6n]

Lets all calm down.

Here is the banner with perspective removed. It is an MBA

Well played! Thank you.

[Mugs]

hey, I dont want to make anyone angry by bringing up the air again, but just in case in hadnt been posted 9to5mac thinks its airs with new a new 16:9 14 inch screen! head over there to see. Im sorry if this has already been posted.
C ya

[Lyra]

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/paloooz/macbookaircopy.jpg


While you guys are at it, why don't you look for the Sasquatch ????

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/DTrapp/bigfoot.htm

[xhambonex]

http://www.melamorsicata.it/mela/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/iphone-wwdc-08.jpg

apple sent this out awhile ago, look like the same picture concept, hence iphone front air back

[elby]

When you start deciphering color schemes, you know you're reading WAY too much into it.

Spoken like a true non-designer. Check out http://kuler.adobe.com/ and then repost.

[koobcamuk]

Hello?

Moshi moshi?

[MattGTO]

Is it just me or is the iPhone in front of the Air waaaay to big to be an iPhone? Looks like a 7" display to me. Maybe it's just an optical illusion.

shut up. its a NORMAL iPhone and its a NORMAL MBA. Apple isn't stupid enough to give anything away in a FREAKING BANNER.

[Lyra]

Moshi moshi?

Hai?

Ie, Byoki Des! :(

[zirkle2007]

hey, I dont want to make anyone angry by bringing up the air again, but just in case in hadnt been posted 9to5mac thinks its airs with new a new 16:9 14 inch screen! head over there to see. Im sorry if this has already been posted.
C ya

here's the link to what Mugs is talking about....

http://www.9to5mac.com/moscone-wwdc-2008

[javaGuru]

wow, banners. Didn't see that one coming. :)

[arnette]

Spoken like a true non-designer. Check out http://kuler.adobe.com/ and then repost.

Pretty.

I'll re-phrase. When you start to decipher color schemes of a badly photographed banner ad in bad lighting from across a room at an off-angle for meaning of new product releases then you're really reading into things.

[Yvan256]

Hai?

Ie, Byoki Des! :(

Allo? :confused:

[toxicbomber]

Is it just me or are you two mocking me? :cool:

That's what I love about the MacRumors bunch; we're all good-natured... except for the people who complain when "their" line isn't updated when there isn't a CPU to upgrade to.:p

:p Btw newton 2.0 on Monday. :eek: :apple:

[xsnightclub]

The banners are featuring the most mobile and connected of Apples products.

This is a developers conference. It will be focused on the Mobile platforms for the developers.

The iPhone Fund has recently just started giving out funds for development. Most developers are gonna be focused on this anyway, its where the MAJOR cash is.

Apple also needs to move iPhone along in development for business use in order to keep its lead in the smartphone/mobile computing market.

This one is all about mobile. Hence no iMac or MacPros on banners
This could also explain the lack of "Mac" before OS X, OS X is no longer soley Mac Centric

[elby]

Pretty.

I'll re-phrase. When you start to decipher color schemes of a badly photographed banner ad in bad lighting from across a room at an off-angle for meaning of new product releases then you're really reading into things.

Touche' Well said.

[Masquerade]

OS X : Mac OS X is coming to pc's for sure.

[Digital Skunk]

I can't believe the hype starters are trying to prove that there is a new MB or something on the banner.

The same posts screaming about how the conference was a disappointment and no new toys were announced and it was all about the iPhone and there wasn't even an iPhone 3G.

At the end of the keynote all of their faces will look like this:

[FreeState]

Pretty.

I'll re-phrase. When you start to decipher color schemes of a badly photographed banner ad in bad lighting from across a room at an off-angle for meaning of new product releases then you're really reading into things.

Unless of course your on a rumor site's discussion board.

Hell look at all the "photos" of Bigfoot etc. they have TV shows dedicated to them.

[Lyra]

Allo? :confused:

Oui? :)

[javaGuru]

Pretty.

I'll re-phrase. When you start to decipher color schemes of a badly photographed banner ad in bad lighting from across a room at an off-angle for meaning of new product releases then you're really reading into things.

Very well stated. I agree with this.