Just got home from the worst date ever...

[maestro55]

... I think the chick was high or something. She seemed very mellowed out, but I couldn't tell if her pupils were dilated or not. We started talking Sunday night and she asked me Monday when we were going to meet. I made plans for tonight and we went out to eat and then out for a coffee. She kept getting calls from what sounded like a guy and then she lied (or at least I think it was a lie) about a 9:30 curfew and so I took her home. She hardly said a thing and so I ended up spending the whole time trying to sound interesting. When I dropped her off she got out of the car, not even a hug or anything and I would have walked her to her porch but she was out before then.

So she wasn't happy with me, why the hell didn't she tell me what the problem was. Damn, I am so tired of dating, I almost hate myself for whatever I did wrong tonight or just being myself seemed to not make her happy. My ex-girlfriend didn't seem happy with me either, in fact just days after breaking up with her she was already dating (and then she tells me that she was surprised that I am dating again). Why if she wasn't happy didn't she tell me two months ago (before I spent over $100, a lot for me right now, taking her to Austin for her birthday) that she wasn't happy.

/rant

Sorry I am just a bit depressed that I seem to lack the looks, personality, etc to make a woman happy.

[trevorlsciact]

youll find someone, maybe you shouldn't date, i think the whole concept is kinda screwed, you should get to know people naturally. people shouldt have to go on dates to get involved.

[junkmailbonzai]

Just be glad you don't look like this. I feel your pain though. I lived over in japan as a missionary for 2 years and the girls were running away from me for about a year and a half. Best of luck to ya!

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=118702&stc=1&d=1212697372

[MonksMac]

Sorry. The only thing to do is to calm down and relax, at least for me anyway. You'll meet someone someday!:):apple:

[richthomas]

sounds like she wasnt interested in you but she just needs the attention of guys. if you dont want to be 'just friends' with her i say let her go. youll find someone else around the corner ;).

[Drumjim85]

where'd you go for coffee? Ever been to common grounds?

[majordude]

1. At least you were within an arm's length of a woman who was somewhat connected to you. That's better than most nerds ever get even if they pay.

2. Chicks are whack.

[maestro55]

where'd you go for coffee? Ever been to common grounds?

We went to Starbucks, but yes I have been to Common Grounds once in August or 2004 meeting with a local Linux group. Not a bad place I just always go to Starbucks.

[AndyClarke]

We went to Starbucks, but yes I have been to Common Grounds once in August or 2004 meeting with a local Linux group. Not a bad place I just always go to Starbucks.

I think maybe you should have taken her somewhere more interesting than a Starbucks!!! What sort of a date is that?

I never took dating seriously at all and used to make sure they would put out before I spent money on them, even for a coffee. In my opinion the less serious you take dating and stuff the more they find you attractive. I mean if she read your post she would tell her friends and the word spreads that your a wimp to be honest.

You need to look at your objectives:

a) Did you want to be her friend?
b) Did you want to shag her senseless just for fun?
c) Did you want to make love to her?
d) Did you want to take her to starbucks, talk, date, marry, have children then split up?
e) Did you just see/shag her to make your ex jealous?

I would go with b and a little of e.

[AndyClarke]

1. At least you were within an arm's length of a woman who was somewhat connected to you. That's better than most nerds ever get even if they pay.

2. Chicks are whack.

Connected? LOL - She did not speak to him.

Chicks are whack? - I guess you go on Starbucks dates often then also?

How do you know the OP is a nerd?

[maestro55]

I saw her because I am looking for a companion, and from our talks she seemed like a decent match. I gave it a shot, it didn't work. We went to the Clay Pot for the actual date, it is a small Vietnamese restaurant here in Waco. The Starbucks was an after thought, a place where we might have been able to talk, not very creative. She talked some, but the majority of the talking was me, she seemed out of it.

[AndyClarke]

I saw her because I am looking for a companion, and from our talks she seemed like a decent match. I gave it a shot, it didn't work. We went to the Clay Pot for the actual date, it is a small Vietnamese restaurant here in Waco. The Starbucks was an after thought, a place where we might have been able to talk, not very creative. She talked some, but the majority of the talking was me, she seemed out of it.

Does that imply that you met her on the internet?
The Clay Pot does not sound like much fun for a first date to be honest. I think you compounded that by taking her to a starbucks. If talking is a problem for you then take her somewhere you do not have to talk! Maybe the cinema. Or to a nightclub, did you ask her if she even enjoys VC food?

I had a quick look at your blog and it is a bit worrying that your letting this depress you so much. Your comment about your worried to have sex because she might ask you to leave afterwards did make me laugh, sorry, but what would you want her to say? Again, you should not give her the chance to say it if it bothers you. Have sex with her then get out of bed (or off the kitchen table) and say it to her first!!!

[thechidz]

she sounds very forgettable... dont dwell... find someone else

[aquajet]

Doesn't matter who you are...sometime it just doesn't work out.

Are there any young women in your Linux group? Surely there must be women out there who like to play with Linux. ;)

[AndyClarke]

she sounds very forgettable... dont dwell... find someone else

Tell us more about her. Were did you meet? How did you meet? Does she 'enjoy' Linux or Radio or Apple? What did you talk about on your date? I just get the feeling that she was not on drugs but very bored and lost interest. Thats why she ran from the car when you dropped her off. You have to realise that girls are like blokes. They also want to have sex, its no just a guy thing. Maybe you should stick to my rule when I was 19. We would go to the pub and make light chat with a girl, ask for a shag and if she said no move on to the next girl. If you ask 100 girls you will get one that says yes or maybe more than one ;). Never left a club, pub or party alone using this method.

Why not set up a nerd dating site, or an Nerd orgy club. Just make sure you get some female members otherwise the Orgy might no be so great!!!

[maestro55]

Does that imply that you met her on the internet?
The Clay Pot does not sound like much fun for a first date to be honest. I think you compounded that by taking her to a starbucks. If talking is a problem for you then take her somewhere you do not have to talk! Maybe the cinema. Or to a nightclub, did you ask her if she even enjoys VC food?

I had a quick look at your blog and it is a bit worrying that your letting this depress you so much. Your comment about your worried to have sex because she might ask you to leave afterwards did make me laugh, sorry, but what would you want her to say? Again, you should not give her the chance to say it if it bothers you. Have sex with her then get out of bed (or off the kitchen table) and say it to her first!!!

First off I should probably delete some of the other posts on my blog, the problem is I have stuff dating back to 2004, the post you are referring to was from 2007 and I assure you that things are very different for me now as nearly a year as gone by and a lot of aging can be done over a year. And the most recent posting was due to being drunk, the fact is though I should delete that entry as well; however, I think it is good to have a reminder to stay away from the keyboard when drinking.

As for the Clay Pot not being fun for a first date, perhaps it isn't. But nightclubs aren't much fun either when you can't drink and can't dance. My problem isn't with talking I can carry on a conversation very easily over a vast range or topics, the problem isn't with me but with the people I meet not having the same interests as me. I mean I am very interested in politics, science, technology, aliens, paranormal, etc and while I can certainly talk about more mainstream things like music, movies, television my interests are very different than the majority of women. But anyhow, the cinema might not have been a bad idea but she said before that she wanted to go somewhere where we could talk and then she ended up doing extremely little talking. As for her liking Vietnamese food, maybe she didn't and it might not have been the best choice, but it is actually a really nice place and quiet and never a wait for a table and the food is excellent. If she wasn't happy with the dinner and doesn't want to see me again because of that than she isn't the kind of woman I want to date.


Are there any young women in your Linux group? Surely there must be women out there who like to play with Linux.

There is one woman who actively comes to the meetings and that is one of the guy's wife. My ex went with me to the last meeting I went which was nice of her but she was bored and I didn't make her go she insisted on going (since we go out to dinner after the meeting) and she had a good time at the dinner.

she sounds very forgettable... dont dwell... find someone else

I am sure I will, and who knows what will happen. I guess I could transform who I am to be more "mainstream" but that would be no fun.

[AndyClarke]

'the problem isn't with me but with the people I meet not having the same interests as me'

So the problem is with you then. You need to show more interest in there interests and they will reciprocate the gesture. You will never meet a girl that will only talk about what you like for the rest of her life. That is never going to happen. You might as well accept the fact you will always be single because no relationship will last under those rules, hetro, gay or otherwise.

If you go on another date while your driving to the venue just whip out your love sausage and say 'You know what, lets just f**k. Girls love that approach!

Unless you have a very small penis in which case you might want to start looking in your spam folder for a magical pill, maybe they sell them at the Clay Pot behind the counter?

But seriously you need to decide what you want from life? I would do what makes you happy and if you ever meet somebody that you like be more assertive and stay confident when you meet her. Women are not as interested in looks as you might think. If your not confident you will not have much luck with women.

[Andrew Henry]

- snip -

Why if she wasn't happy didn't she tell me two months ago (before I spent over $100, a lot for me right now, taking her to Austin for her birthday) that she wasn't happy.

/rant

Sorry I am just a bit depressed that I seem to lack the looks, personality, etc to make a woman happy.

You got off easy man, it could have been A LOT worse.

Don't get down on yourself, everything comes in time.

[maestro55]

'the problem isn't with me but with the people I meet not having the same interests as me'

So the problem is with you then. You need to show more interest in there interests and they will reciprocate the gesture. You will never meet a girl that will only talk about what you like for the rest of her life. That is never going to happen. You might as well accept the fact you will always be single because no relationship will last under those rules, hetro, gay or otherwise.

If you go on another date while your driving to the venue just whip out your love sausage and say 'You know what, lets just f**k. Girls love that approach!

Unless you have a very small penis in which case you might want to start looking in your spam folder for a magical pill, maybe they sell them at the Clay Pot behind the counter?

But seriously you need to decide what you want from life? I would do what makes you happy and if you ever meet somebody that you like be more assertive and stay confident when you meet her. Women are not as interested in looks as you might think. If your not confident you will not have much luck with women.

And I attempted several times to get her to talk about her interests, because I am certainly open to learning new things and perhaps gaining new interests, but she didn't seem interested in talking about her interests (I gathered an interest in Music and she wants to travel, that is about it) and so that means I am forced to carry on a conversation. I tried to amuse her with tales of my travels but I think I came off as trying to brag (though that wasn't the case, she might have taken it the wrong way because she has never been out of the state much less to many of the cities I have been to in the state).

The bottom line though is that I am very paranoid and over analyze every little thing. So who knows.

[kymac]

hmm.. if you want more options.. you could always try men..




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[Andrew Henry]

- snip -

The bottom line though is that I am very paranoid and over analyze every little thing. So who knows.

Why even dwell on it? The date is over, she wasn't interested, move on, there's a million fish in the sea, you will find someone, but if the date was like you say it was, she wasn't for you anyhow.

[AndyClarke]

hmm.. if you want more options.. you could always try men..




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Not sure that would make any difference at all. I doubt a man would like a date at the Clay Pot followed by coffee at Starbucks and chat about radio/linux. Even he would probably just want you to shovel coal.

[shaunomacx]

dont worry about it, get to know a woman through work or through friends that is how it worked for me and it worked out perfect!!! seriously just meeting random girls for dates NEVER works out right. Try hanging out in places that interest you and see who you meet!

[davidjearly]

To the OP: If you have problems getting a conversation going, one of the best places to take a girl is to the cinema. Obviously, you would have to choose a film which both of you would enjoy, but it should leave a lot of room for conversation afterwards.

It doesn't seem as though you broke any rules during your date, but rather that this girl was just not really interested.

[Blue Velvet]

Mod's note: I've deleted a number of borderline posts from this thread. Please remember that this forum is read by people of all ages, thank you.

[Iscariot]

Mod's note: I've deleted a number of borderline posts from this thread. Please remember that this forum is read by people of all ages, thank you.

Iscariot's note: marry me.

[Igantius]

Worst date in the world? Nah…not even close!

[maestro55]

Not sure that would make any difference at all. I doubt a man would like a date at the Clay Pot followed by coffee at Starbucks and chat about radio/linux. Even he would probably just want you to shovel coal.

Just to clarify, we had talked about where we were going to go out to before we did. I mentioned The Clay Pot, she said she had never been and would be interested in trying it. As for the Starbucks Coffee, when we left we were driving around and I asked her if she liked coffee, she said yes and so I asked her if she wanted to go grab a coffee at Starbucks, she said sure. It wasn't like I dragged her out of her house and was rude by choosing two places that you wouldn't choose for a date. And the conversation never once mentioned radio or linux actually, was mostly telling her about myself and trying to get her to talk about herself more. I was courteous and like I said before I tried to get her to talk about her interests and her life, I am not some jerk who controls the conversation.

dont worry about it, get to know a woman through work or through friends that is how it worked for me and it worked out perfect!!! seriously just meeting random girls for dates NEVER works out right. Try hanging out in places that interest you and see who you meet!

You make a good point, and perhaps when I eventually move to Austin I will meet that nice liberal woman who is interested in some of the same things as I. Actually I am good friends with a lady who is into Linux and Amatuer Radio aswell as science and technology, etc; however, she lives in Maryland.

[Abstract]

She did very little talking? Maybe she found you too talkative, and you didn't really give her a chance to speak. :p

You should have asked her questions, and have her talk about herself all night.


Girls aren't whack. Just because you take a girl on a date, doesn't mean it'll work out. Were you looking for a guaranteed good time, where she would definitely like you, and you would definitely like her? It doesn't work like that. And besides, would you want to go out with this girl again anyway? Who cares about her. It wasn't good, and this "test" failed.


Dating is like going to a job interview, but with a greater potential for sex.

[Andrew Henry]

She did very little talking? Maybe she found you too talkative, and you didn't really give her a chance to speak. :p

You should have asked her questions, and have her talk about herself all night.


Girls aren't whack. Just because you take a girl on a date, doesn't mean it'll work out. Were you looking for a guaranteed good time, where she would definitely like you, and you would definitely like her? It doesn't work like that. And besides, would you want to go out with this girl again anyway? Who cares about her. It wasn't good, and this "test" failed.


Dating is like going to a job interview, but with a greater potential for sex.


I guess that depends on where you're interviewing at. :p

[Abstract]

Well if I was going to work at Hooters (um, somehow....), I'd almost expect something more than just their chicken wings.

[Tilpots]

Remember, you have to like her, it is just as important as her liking you. How can you be really in to a girl that won't have a conversation with you? There's also about 3 billion women in this world and you're looking for one. There's bound to be some dates that don't go well.:)

[maestro55]

She did very little talking? Maybe she found you too talkative, and you didn't really give her a chance to speak.

You should have asked her questions, and have her talk about herself all night.


I asked her various questions in order to attempt to get her to talk about herself; however, she wasn't talkative, like I said she seemed very mellow.

Remember, you have to like her, it is just as important as her liking you. How can you be really in to a girl that won't have a conversation with you? There's also about 3 billion women in this world and you're looking for one. There's bound to be some dates that don't go well.

You are right, and I guess in the end when I think about it I didn't really like her. I want someone who is articulate and seems half way capable of carrying on a conversation. I want someone who doesn't think I am naive and tell me some BS story that she has a fricking curfew while she is getting phone calls all night long.

[madoka]

... So she wasn't happy with me, why the hell didn't she tell me what the problem was.

My guess is that she was just trying to be nice on a first date. What would you rather she do? Blast you to bits the first time she meets you?

Just looking over your first blog entry, I see that

- you're an angry drunk
- have a chip on your shoulder about religion
- you're bitter and depressed
- you are a "über-nerd"
- you're "too lazy" to catch up your school work
- you've surfed so much internet porn, you're bored of it
- you don't respect women ("I want to meet a chick who enjoys f***ing me")

Just how many women find the above qualities attractive?

Sorry I am just a bit depressed that I seem to lack the looks, personality, etc to make a woman happy.

How can you lack the looks when you describe yourself as "The Sexy Maestro" and can say things like "while I have to admit her face isn’t all that great her body is very nice."

Seriously though, looks like you have some maturing to do. It's unfair to say you were on the "worst date ever" when it sounds like you're at least partly to blame. I mean, how self-centered is it to claim this when it sounds like you bored her into making excuses to get out of a bad date. Instead of blaming your troubles at everyone else and shaking your fist at the heavens, use this as a learning experience. And yeah, it may take years to find someone and maybe you never do, but you'll improve your chances if you try to be a better, more respectful person.

[arnette]

I asked her various questions in order to attempt to get her to talk about herself; however, she wasn't talkative, like I said she seemed very mellow.


You sound like you have your head on straight. Just a bum date, perhaps she only wanted to go out to get over someone else. Sucks for you because how are you to know that until it's too late?!

Blows. I can't imagine dating in Waco. I grew up in San Antonio, lived in Dallas for awhile too. Texas is all restaurants and nightclubs for dating. Gets boring and repetitive.

Keep swinging, slugger!

[majordude]

The Crying Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crying_Game) = Worst. Date. Ever.

[Everythingisnt]

My guess is that she was just trying to be nice on a first date. What would you rather she do? Blast you to bits the first time she meets you?

Just looking over your first blog entry, I see that

- you're an angry drunk
- have a chip on your shoulder about religion
- you're bitter and depressed
- you are a "über-nerd"
- you're "too lazy" to catch up your school work
- you've surfed so much internet porn, you're bored of it
- you don't respect women ("I want to meet a chick who enjoys f***ing me")

Just how many women find the above qualities attractive?



How can you lack the looks when you describe yourself as "The Sexy Maestro" and can say things like "while I have to admit her face isn’t all that great her body is very nice."

Seriously though, looks like you have some maturing to do. It's unfair to say you were on the "worst date ever" when it sounds like you're at least partly to blame. I mean, how self-centered is it to claim this when it sounds like you bored her into making excuses to get out of a bad date. Instead of blaming your troubles at everyone else and shaking your fist at the heavens, use this as a learning experience. And yeah, it may take years to find someone and maybe you never do, but you'll improve your chances if you try to be a better, more respectful person.


I totally agree with this.

"THe sexy maestro"?? Wtf??

[themadchemist]

Recommendation: Don't write blog entries while drunk. It seems not to be doing you well.

But best of luck. Don't try so hard or worry so hard about it. You'll find someone eventually, but looking too hard probably won't hasten the process; it'll just make it seem longer. Keep yourself busy with things you enjoy because if you can't be relatively happy without a girl, you're not going to be ecstatically happy with one.

[maestro55]

My guess is that she was just trying to be nice on a first date. What would you rather she do? Blast you to bits the first time she meets you?

If she wasn't happy, than yes I would want her to tell me. Then I might also add that earlier today she sent me a message telling me she had a good time last night, she obviously didn't so why message me and tell me this out of the blue?

Just looking over your first blog entry, I see that

- you're an angry drunk
- have a chip on your shoulder about religion
- you're bitter and depressed
- you are a "über-nerd"
- you're "too lazy" to catch up your school work
- you've surfed so much internet porn, you're bored of it
- you don't respect women ("I want to meet a chick who enjoys f***ing me")

Just how many women find the above qualities attractive?

Angry drunk? Not really but that evening wasn't my normal evening. I do have a chip on my shoulder about religion but that is for the PRSI forum and has nothing to do with me going out with the girl last night who was an Atheist and in talking to her prior to meeting her I discovered she agreed with me on the topic. I am probably a great deal bitter and at times can get depressed. In February I was stressed out about a lot of different things and the being lonely part only amplified that. I am most certainly a nerd, very much to the extreme hence the classification of "über-nerd". I have been lazy in the past with my education, but I am finishing my degree in August and I still have like a 3.4GPA so I am not doing too poorly. I am indeed bored with internet porn, but oh well.

As for the not respecting women. Let me please clarify for you that my word choice "I want to meet a chick who enjoys f***ing me" isn't reflective of my actual opinions towards women. In fact I respect women a great deal. I think all guys want to meet a woman who he can have a strong sexual relationship with, one in which the woman is fully satisfied and enjoys what goes on in the bedroom. So my wording was very wrong, and I could easily delete that thread and like I never posted drunk but that is a reminder to me not to do so.



How can you lack the looks when you describe yourself as "The Sexy Maestro" and can say things like "while I have to admit her face isn’t all that great her body is very nice."

Well "The Sexy Maestro" is what I titled my original blog back in 2004 and was a joke on the Seinfeld episode titled "The Maestro" in which I began referring to myself as "The Sexy Maestro" (instead of "The Maestro" as was in that episode of Seinfeld). It was a joke among friends of mine and it has stuck around. And I didn't say that I didn't believe I was attractive, I said that this particular girl and others that I have met and dated perhaps haven't found me to be attractive but I live by the old "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". The girl in question in that drunk post wasn't a girl that I am actually attracted to and again my word choice isn't reflective of my own thoughts on physical attraction I do believe that there has to be some physical attraction between a couple. I wouldn't date someone I wasn't physically attracted to and I wouldn't want someone to date me if they weren't physically attracted to me.

Seriously though, looks like you have some maturing to do. It's unfair to say you were on the "worst date ever" when it sounds like you're at least partly to blame. I mean, how self-centered is it to claim this when it sounds like you bored her into making excuses to get out of a bad date. Instead of blaming your troubles at everyone else and shaking your fist at the heavens, use this as a learning experience. And yeah, it may take years to find someone and maybe you never do, but you'll improve your chances if you try to be a better, more respectful person.

I don't fully agree with you here. I will agree that I have some maturing to do, I believe that everyone has maturing to do. It may very well be true that she was bored, and as I mentioned in my last post in this thread I don't want to be with someone who is bored by me. I would rather meet someone who isn't bored and enjoys my conversation. I am not blaming any higher powers on last nights failed adventure and I am not really blaming my dating problem on anyone else, the problem is simply the fact that I am who I am and I have yet to meet someone who is satisfied fully with that.

I will use last night as a learning experience though, and talk more with someone and get to know them better before I decide to try and take them out. Perhaps you are right, I may never find someone. But for you to claim that I am not a respectful person I think is unfair. In fact as I said before I think it was very respectful that even before I took this girl out I had asked her if my choice of where to eat was okay with her, I opened the doors for her, I asked her what she wanted to do after we had dinner, she had no idea, I asked her if she liked coffee and she said yes, I asked her if Starbucks was okay, and she said yes. I was respectful to her enough that during the time we were together I attempted on many many occasions to get her to talk about herself and her goals and her life.

You are basing my level of respect based on a blog entry where I was drunk when I posted. I am not a disrespectful person.

You sound like you have your head on straight. Just a bum date, perhaps she only wanted to go out to get over someone else. Sucks for you because how are you to know that until it's too late?!

Blows. I can't imagine dating in Waco. I grew up in San Antonio, lived in Dallas for awhile too. Texas is all restaurants and nightclubs for dating. Gets boring and repetitive.

Keep swinging, slugger!

Yeah, who knows why she went out with me. That doesn't matter now. But I will agree dating in Waco does suck, certainly if you are under the drinking age. I mean at least in Austin there is always something going on even for those who can't drink. I mean the 18+ clubs aren't near that great but there is always Alamo Drafthouse showing something or having special events.

Recommendation: Don't write blog entries while drunk. It seems not to be doing you well.

But best of luck. Don't try so hard or worry so hard about it. You'll find someone eventually, but looking too hard probably won't hasten the process; it'll just make it seem longer. Keep yourself busy with things you enjoy because if you can't be relatively happy without a girl, you're not going to be ecstatically happy with one.

Some more great advice, and you are right. I should try to be happy alone with my own hobbies/interests and wait until the right person comes along.

[tanktowns56]

then theres my theory
everytime i get into a relationship im like truly happy for like a day
then god goes HA like you can't be happy
than proceeds to piss on my head


Added after posted:
Waco, Texas can't be worse than Hiawassee, GA theres nothing to do here my grad class was 59 people and the closest thing to a mall is walmart which unfortunately is 30 minutes away the nearest actual mall is 2 hours away in atl or in asheville, nc and every girl here is shallow only wants money so anyone looking for a decent relationship (eg. me) is frakked

[Abstract]

Just looking over your first blog entry, I see that

- you're an angry drunk
- have a chip on your shoulder about religion
- you're bitter and depressed
- you are a "über-nerd"
- you're "too lazy" to catch up your school work
- you've surfed so much internet porn, you're bored of it
- you don't respect women ("I want to meet a chick who enjoys f***ing me")

Just how many women find the above qualities attractive?


But after only 1 date, she didn't even have time to discover these wonderful qualities. If she only gave him more of a chance....*le sigh*

[maestro55]

But after only 1 date, she didn't even have time to discover these wonderful qualities. If she only gave him more of a chance....*le sigh*

I am me, and while I have clarified that I am not completely what was portrayed in that drunk post of mine on my blog I am who I am and I am sure I will meet someone one of these days who is happy with who I am.

[Abstract]

I was being sarcastic. ;)

You explained yourself, and I believed it.

[leekohler]

I am me, and while I have clarified that I am not completely what was portrayed in that drunk post of mine on my blog I am who I am and I am sure I will meet someone one of these days who is happy with who I am.

First of all, it might be helpful if you post a pic of yourself. I noticed in your OP that you thought you were unattractive. Usually, people your age go through some physical awkwardness. I ought to know, I was awkward til 27! I have a feeling we could at least help you with this one thing, which might give your self-confidence a boost. This is something you do for yourself, not anyone else.

[madoka]

You are basing my level of respect based on a blog entry where I was drunk when I posted. I am not a disrespectful person.

First off, thank you for your thoughtful and introspective reply. You come off as a completely different person than in that drunken blog entry.

On the above point, however, I am indeed basing it on your blog entry, but also on your initial post. You claimed to have been on the "worst date ever" and accused your date of being on drugs. Re-read that first post and think about how she would feel about you blasting her on a public forum. I believe that was pretty disrespectful to accuse this girl of being on drugs and a liar simply because you had a bad date.

[maestro55]

First off, thank you for your thoughtful and introspective reply. You come off as a completely different person than in that drunken blog entry.

On the above point, however, I am indeed basing it on your blog entry, but also on your initial post. You claimed to have been on the "worst date ever" and accused your date of being on drugs. Re-read that first post and think about how she would feel about you blasting her on a public forum. I believe that was pretty disrespectful to accuse this girl of being on drugs and a liar simply because you had a bad date.

Okay, so I don't know if she was on drugs, but she seemed out of it, and very mellow and like I said in my OP it was hard to tell if her pupils were dilated or not but the way she was talking and her general presentation led me to believe that something was not right. Now I could be completely wrong in the accusation but I believe that it is extremely possible. As for me calling her a liar, I think it was pretty obvious that she was lying about having a curfew, she is 18 years old and has to be home by 9:30? Why didn't she mention that prior to us going out. And the calls throughout the night? Perhaps she had plans afterwards or perhaps she just wanted to go home because the date wasn't to her liking, either way I strongly believe she lied about the curfew.

As for making those accusations on a public forum, I didn't mention her name, and since no one will know who she is I don't think there was any harm there. My belief that she was lying to me wasn't based on there being a bad date, I believe there were times when my ex-girlfriend wasn't entirely honest about things with me and we had great dates. My belief that she might have been high on something was based on traits that I saw as we were out including the tone of her voice, her speaking rather slow and seeming to ignore much of what I said. That might have been just because she was bored, I will never know because she wasn't entirely honest with me about whether or not she enjoyed the date ( I mean she wrote me to tell me she had a good time, but she obviously didn't).

In the end, we are beating a dead horse. The date wasn't good, I have no intention of seeing her again, end of story.