Stereo Bluetooth?!

[Donz0r]

Does it have stereo bluetooth?
the website says Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR

[Donz0r]

doesn't anyone know?

[El Magnificante]

A2DP?

No :apple:

[DreamPod]

Apple didn't mention it, so since the current iPhone does not have it, neither will the 3G one. Very unfortunate, and really idiotic, considering how much the device is being marketed as a music player. A music player...without stereo!

[Fonzijr1964]

yeah it is dumb i just made a thred about this but yeah. I think aside from GPS and 3G chip its the same phone so yeah

[hotzenplotz]

http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html Nope. If it had it would have been mentioned somewhere.

[afazel]

That's a bit disappointing. Thanks for the info

[Connect IT]

I am very disappointed that it will not have A2DP support. I think that the iPhone is a great device, but why does Apple think that it is better to be tethered to our iPhones instead of having the ability to break free from the "wire"?

[Ag-Ryan]

having an iphone is like having a super computer that cant go on the internet

pretty cool, but lacking some extremely basic features

[spooky2k]

having an iphone is like having a super computer that cant go on the internet

pretty cool, but lacking some extremely basic features

Um...it's a pretty advanced computer (find any other computer as small as the iphone). And it can go on the internet.
Hmmmm....

[bjanz]

I didn't buy iPhone 1.0 'cuz it had too many missing features, one of which was A2DP. Instead, I bought a Blackberry Curve which *does* support A2DP and a 4gb MicroSD card, and has much of that missing functionality (voice dialing is a "must have" while driving).

Now, Apple releases iPhone 2.0, and it *still* doesn't have A2DP.

This is simply shameful. For Apple, a company that touts its iPhone as a music player, the lack of A2DP is inexcusable. The lack of other apps and capabilities in the iPhone is also ridiculous, and shows that Apple is going for the "glitz" rather than "functionality".

Come on, Apple! Give me A2DP, as well as voice dialing, fully-searchable contact lists, copy/paste between applications, and all of the other functionality I can find in competitive devices (such as the Blackberry). I *WANT* to move to an iPhone, but - for me - it is a step *backward*!

[ICEBreaker]

I have had the N95 since the day it was launched. I would really love a touch screen, however, I will not be trading DOWN.

5MP Carl Zeiss Camera - Not sure what the new iPhone will be like, but if it's still a 2MP camera, then it's pretty rubbish. What's the point of marketing so much about sharing photos, if the photos aren't high quality? It's got to have at least 3MP to be on par with the industry norm.

A2DP - The absence of this is almost on the verge of being idiotic since it costs ever so little to implement and is almost the norm nowadays.

To me, these two are "must have items". Seems like I won't be getting the new IPhone then. Shame. I'll wait for the next version in 2 year's time.

[gloss]

It could easily be upgraded in firmware, but more to the point: Stereo Bluetooth's quality sucks.

[JPIndustrie]

It could easily be upgraded in firmware, but more to the point: Stereo Bluetooth's quality sucks.

Subjective, but no it doesn't.

My etymotic ety8 A2DP BT headphones run with or even blow away some of the wired competition.

[WannaApple?]

The stereo bluetooth missing is the only thing that really disappointed me yesterday. Heck, even my Razr that I currently use has it! I dont like the look, feel or just overall encumbrance of having to have wires hanging from my ears to listen to music...however I will just have to put it up with it for a while as I plan on getting a 3G phone.

[slapguts]

This is an issue that needs to be addressed. The only solution seems to be flooding Apple with feedback, letting them know how disapponted we are.

Can someone post up the link to the iPhone feedback form? I'm on my phone, so I can't do it.

[Fonzijr1964]

This is an issue that needs to be addressed. The only solution seems to be flooding Apple with feedback, letting them know how disapponted we are.

Can someone post up the link to the iPhone feedback form? I'm on my phone, so I can't do it.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

good idea but it won't work

[Nykwil]

probably cuz the bluetooth stereo headsets out there are ugly and apple is looking for the tech to be small enough to implement something tiny and pretty.

Also I'm no fan of audio through bluetooth. If putting the phone in my pants can make some bluetooth headsets staticky, I can only guess that apple did not want to put out a feature like that.

Also people talk about this feature as if it wont impact battery life.

Imagine listening to music, receiving a phone call, browsing the internet for a place to eat, then using the gps and maps, I mean that HAS to drain the battery.

And no, we all know not EVERYONE is going to be sitting in their office while the phone charges and you're listening to your iphone.

I've come to understand that Apple likes to pick on a few major things and concentrate on those and make those core things work as good as possible instead of spreading their resources over so many technologies and diluting the overall quality of the product.

[slapguts]

http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

good idea but it won't work

Yeah, probably not. I can't justify buying a $100 dongle to stick on the bottom of my $600 phone.

Too bad it can't be done by the hackers, either.

[philskillz]

Can't A2DP be activated via firmware upgrade? If I remember my XV6700 had a firmware upgrade that let me use A2DP.

[edtorious]

Does it have stereo bluetooth?
the website says Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR

can anybody tell what's the difference between the two above? I'm confused:confused:

[samab]

Can't A2DP be activated via firmware upgrade? If I remember my XV6700 had a firmware upgrade that let me use A2DP.

You will NEVER see stereo bluetooth on the iphone or the ipod.

The reason --- Apple makes a LOT of MONEY on "ipod/iphone certified" accessories. If you can beam music from a ipod or a iphone to headphones or speakers via INDUSTRY STANDARD bluetooth --- then Apple will lose a lot of those licensing fees for stuff like JBL ipod docks.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6799489-1.html

[slapguts]

You will NEVER see stereo bluetooth on the iphone or the ipod.

The reason --- Apple makes a LOT of MONEY on "ipod/iphone certified" accessories. If you can beam music from a ipod or a iphone to headphones or speakers via INDUSTRY STANDARD bluetooth --- then Apple will lose a lot of those licensing fees for stuff like JBL ipod docks.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6799489-1.html

Thanks, that's the first explanation I've seem that was even remotely reasonable.

[sassenach74]

can anybody tell what's the difference between the two above? I'm confused:confused:

Stereo bluetooth (A2DP) means the sound will be in stereo through the bluetooth headset

EDR means Enhanced Data Rate, which I believe is 3Mbit/s

Hope that helps.

[El Magnificante]

How about using a BT keyboard with the new iPhone? I wouldn't mind.

[ImNoSuperMan]

Stereo bluetooth (A2DP) means the sound will be in stereo through the bluetooth headset

EDR means Enhanced Data Rate, which I believe is 3Mbit/s

Hope that helps.

How is 3Mbit/s any useful if all you can do with bluetooth is to receive calls. I`d really thought Apple would implement A2DP via a firmware upgrade within a few months of launch. But thats what I thought bout copy/paste, MMS, video recording and a lot of other stuff. None of this has been completed as of yet. Apple is slow.

[j26]

I have had the N95 since the day it was launched. I would really love a touch screen, however, I will not be trading DOWN.

5MP Carl Zeiss Camera - Not sure what the new iPhone will be like, but if it's still a 2MP camera, then it's pretty rubbish. What's the point of marketing so much about sharing photos, if the photos aren't high quality? It's got to have at least 3MP to be on par with the industry norm.

A2DP - The absence of this is almost on the verge of being idiotic since it costs ever so little to implement and is almost the norm nowadays.

To me, these two are "must have items". Seems like I won't be getting the new IPhone then. Shame. I'll wait for the next version in 2 year's time.

+1
But also,
640x480 30fps video - I use it a lot for taking video clips of the ankle biter at play.

I won't be changing my N95 for a good while yet, it seems.

[chrisgeleven]

I bet the reason why they haven't implemented yet is trying to make the battery drain acceptable. Also A2DP uses lossy compression, which means the sound quality is worse, especially when used to listen to other lossy codecs like AAC and MP3 (the music would be encoded twice, which is always bad for sound quality).

It appears there is a lossless bluetooth stereo codec being developed, although it doesn't appear to be out yet.

http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/02/open-interface-north-america-introduces-lossless-bluetooth-audio-codec-soundabout-lossless-from-oina.html

I imagine once that is out and assuming the sound quality is acceptable, Apple will release an update to add it to the iPhone.

[samab]

I bet the reason why they haven't implemented yet is trying to make the battery drain acceptable. Also A2DP uses lossy compression, which means the sound quality is worse, especially when used to listen to other lossy codecs like AAC and MP3 (the music would be encoded twice, which is always bad for sound quality).

It appears there is a lossless bluetooth stereo codec being developed, although it doesn't appear to be out yet.

http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/02/open-interface-north-america-introduces-lossless-bluetooth-audio-codec-soundabout-lossless-from-oina.html

I imagine once that is out and assuming the sound quality is acceptable, Apple will release an update to add it to the iPhone.

You are naive.

Apple crippled the ipods so that you can't get digital spdif signals off of it --- unless the dock manufacturer pays Apple a king's ransom in licensing fee in order to get an authentication from the ipod's authentication chip.

http://www.stereophile.com/news/010408wadia/

If the dock manufacturer doesn't pay the licensing fee --- then it's only analog out for the ipod dock.

That's how the ipod/iphone accessory world works.

[bacaramac]

I don't think the accessory argument will hold up. With the original iPhone you had to use special 3.5mm headphones as Apple recessed the headphone jack. Now they have made it flush mounted so you can use any 3.5mm headphones. So someone explain to me what the difference is between wired universal headphones and wireless universal headphones???

Second, the only other thing I could possibly think of is Apple may be creating a new Bluetooth profile. This is just a shot in the dark, but who knows.

[Fonzijr1964]

How about using a BT keyboard with the new iPhone? I wouldn't mind.

um no

[Fonzijr1964]

how about a Bluetooth sync capability. Now that would be cool

[ICEBreaker]

So someone explain to me what the difference is between wired universal headphones and wireless universal headphones???

The same difference between wired keyboard/mouse and wireless keyboard/mouse.

[ICEBreaker]

how about a Bluetooth sync capability. Now that would be cool

Why use BT when WiFi is superior and readily available with all Macs?

[thevibesman]

I bet the reason why they haven't implemented yet is trying to make the battery drain acceptable. Also A2DP uses lossy compression, which means the sound quality is worse, especially when used to listen to other lossy codecs like AAC and MP3 (the music would be encoded twice, which is always bad for sound quality).

It appears there is a lossless bluetooth stereo codec being developed, although it doesn't appear to be out yet.

http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/02...from-oina.html

I imagine once that is out and assuming the sound quality is acceptable, Apple will release an update to add it to the iPhone.

You are naive.

Apple crippled the ipods so that you can't get digital spdif signals off of it --- unless the dock manufacturer pays Apple a king's ransom in licensing fee in order to get an authentication from the ipod's authentication chip.

http://www.stereophile.com/news/010408wadia/

If the dock manufacturer doesn't pay the licensing fee --- then it's only analog out for the ipod dock.

That's how the ipod/iphone accessory world works.

I think your link actually shows that Chris was not being naive at all. Right now A2DP headsets do two things:

uses non-lossless compression to transmit data further lowering the sound quality of MP3/AAC based compression. Compared to the iPod Classic, the iPhone's storage space (which is also intended to hold applications and video) is still small and so I would guess there are few people using lossless compression for their iPhone music.

provides an alternative to the white Apple earbuds removing an important part of Apple's branding in the wild. Yes, now you can use any analogue headphones you like with your iPhone, but I don't think that changes how important the white earbuds are to Apple--not only have they been an important part of their print and television advertising since the first iPod, but they provide a way for consumers to spot Apple music players in the wild (I think four or five years ago Steve made some comment about liking how he sees the white earbuds everywhere he goes.


I realize some people would like to have the right/ability to listen to music at whatever crappy level of fidelity they would like, but after reading what you posted about Apple licensing authentication technology I think it makes a lot of sense that they would not license authentication for stereo bluetooth unless it was both a lossless technology and was on par with Apple's industrial design sense.

[samab]

I realize some people would like to have the right/ability to listen to music at whatever crappy level of fidelity they would like, but after reading what you posted about Apple licensing authentication technology I think it makes a lot of sense that they would not license authentication for stereo bluetooth unless it was both a lossless technology and was on par with Apple's industrial design sense.

No such thing as lossless --- because your original source is encoded in a lossy mp3 codec. The only way to minimize codec-to-codec losses --- is to have the actual mp3 codec (and aac codec) built into the bluetooth headphone.

But then you have to pay codec licensing fees for both codecs on the headphone.

There is a company that is selling a proprietary bluetooth codec that claims to sound great --- but it's a proprietary product, which means your average bluetooth headphone can't support it.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2164573,00.asp

It's all about money, nothing to do with sound fidelity.

[ICEBreaker]

[...] provides an alternative to the white Apple earbuds removing an important part of Apple's branding in the wild. [...]

[..] I think it makes a lot of sense that they would not license authentication for stereo bluetooth unless it was both a lossless technology and was on par with Apple's industrial design sense.

I won't claim to be right, since we are all just speculating Apple's intentions, but my opinion differs from yours. Apple is known for innovation in how users relate to technology as well as its business model. It is not known for giving high-end specification products. I am in no way saying Apple products are low-quality, just that they are not at the high-end range either.

I find it highly unlikely that Apple is foregoing A2DP simply because the technology uses lossy compression. By your logic, the iPhone shouldn't have a 2MP camera either. Nor should the first iteration be using EDGE. Frankly, the majority of people who listen to music on the go are not going to complain about the lossy aspect of A2DP, and music puritans can always get out their platinum plated wired Shure headphones. If A2DP is good enough for Sony, it's good enough for Apple.

Speaking of headphones, those standard white ear buds are not exactly high end models either. In fact, they are pretty bad quality. So it doesn't seem to be as if the iPhone is meant to target music enthusiasts. It's mean for the masses, just like most of Apple's product lines.

Secondly, thank goodness we can use 3rd party earphones. I personally couldn't stand whose white ear buds. First of all, if Apple values offering choices in colours (which they do), they should give us a choice of black ear bus for those who are more conservative. Secondly, no one uses Y-cords any more. They are so inconvenient. The rest of the world has been using the behind-the-neck cords since last decade. And with so much noise in the city, most decent ear phones are in-ear noise isolation types. If Apple can't even get up to industry norm specifications, it better just let a 3rd party step in. Therefore, it's time Apple allowed 3rd party A2DP ear phones. The only reason it is holding back is because of its business model of exclusivity and proprietary products, and it goes to great lengths to be anti-interoperative.

[ICEBreaker]

It's all about money, nothing to do with sound fidelity.

Exactly! That has been ingrained into Apple's business model since its early history.

[mark34]

>Originally Posted by samab
It's all about money, nothing to do with sound fidelity.<
Exactly! That has been ingrained into Apple's business model since its early history.

That's just crazy talk. A business model that has as its goal to make money? Why, those villains.

[edtorious]

Stereo bluetooth (A2DP) means the sound will be in stereo through the bluetooth headset

EDR means Enhanced Data Rate, which I believe is 3Mbit/s

Hope that helps.

so A2DP is better than EDR? how so? and also can we play itunes song from Iphone thru bluetooth headset? we probably can but you guys are saying stereo bluetooth A2DP will sound better than bluetooth EDR? :confused:

[stevin]

so A2DP is better than EDR? how so? and also can we play itunes song from Iphone thru bluetooth headset? we probably can but you guys are saying stereo bluetooth A2DP will sound better than bluetooth EDR? :confused:

Dude. I dont think you read the thread at all...

You can't play ANYTHING from the iPhone wirlessly... (technically)... they sell bluetooth dock adapters but thats not what the thread is about..

The question I have is Can the SDK be used to support A2DP?
I'm guessing that it wont give the program access to the bluetooth chip right?

[BongoBanger]

Why use BT when WiFi is superior and readily available with all Macs?

Because Bluetooth can be used anywhere between two enabled devices whilst Wi-Fi is dependent on a source being available?

[slapguts]

The question I have is Can the SDK be used to support A2DP?
I'm guessing that it wont give the program access to the bluetooth chip right?

Right. Pretty sure the folks who do all that spiffy unlocking stuff, who have figured out video recording and MMS, would have done a Bluetooth upgrade by now, if it was possible.

[Fonzijr1964]

Right. Pretty sure the folks who do all that spiffy unlocking stuff, who have figured out video recording and MMS, would have done a Bluetooth upgrade by now, if it was possible.

its the chip not the programing. The chip is not capable of sending stereo signals. its not that the programing doesn't allow it. oh and i think the SDK does allow or access to the bluetooth chip.

[slapguts]

its the chip not the programing. The chip is not capable of sending stereo signals. its not that the programing doesn't allow it. oh and i think the SDK does allow or access to the bluetooth chip.

Do a quick search. All Bluetooth chips are reverse compatible. Its just a software update away. The current chip is quite capable of EDR, A2DP, 2.0.

[Fonzijr1964]

Do a quick search. All Bluetooth chips are reverse compatible. Its just a software update away. The current chip is quite capable of EDR, A2DP, 2.0.

oh my bad


than y in the hell are we arguing about this it should have it

[Donz0r]

oh my bad


than y in the hell are we arguing about this it should have it


A2DP can be unlocked via a Firmware update correct? Not just by software?

[slapguts]

A2DP can be unlocked via a Firmware update correct? Not just by software?

Yup, simple little update, and we'd be rocking out wireless. But Apple needs to do it. And the won't, for some strange, virtually unknown reason.

I'd love to see the guys at Gizmodo do an article on this little issue.

[slapguts]

More bad news.

The software Apple licensed for their Bluetooth chip is "Blue Magic" from a company called Open Interface. So the codecs and such have already been written, licensed, and paid for by Apple. Which leads me to believe A2DP was 100% intentionally disabled.

[skwoytek]

You will NEVER see stereo bluetooth on the iphone or the ipod.

The reason --- Apple makes a LOT of MONEY on "ipod/iphone certified" accessories. If you can beam music from a ipod or a iphone to headphones or speakers via INDUSTRY STANDARD bluetooth --- then Apple will lose a lot of those licensing fees for stuff like JBL ipod docks.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6799489-1.html

What?

How many wired headphones can I use that are not iPhone certified. Single ear Bluetooth headsets? Where's the difference? Apple's not going to go broke by allowing A2DP headsets to pair with the iPhone when so many people use third-party earbuds and BT headsets already.

Also, there are plenty of details about Bluetooth that are not mentioned on the website. I don't see where the specs say, "supports Headset Profile (HSP)" but Apple sure a heck makes a bluetooth headset for iPhone. In fact, it doesn't mention any supported profiles. The exclusion of A2DP on the website means nothing and it's inclusion would not necessarily be worth mentioning at WWDC.

And for those asking, yes Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR can handle A2DP via software upgrade.

[Fonzijr1964]

yeah they could just make some "apple" bluetooth head phones.

and i c the next iPod touch having stereo bluetooth just because it seem because all it is about is music so music you will get.

[Donz0r]

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2007/158/p158BT8iP-f_Black.jpeg

My Solution^
Sony BT8iP
iPod bluetooth adapter

Not ideal but it has great reviews and works with iPhone flawlessly from what i've read.

[Fonzijr1964]

the phone gets mad at you though it says some thing like "this accessory was not designed for the iphone and my be interrupted by signals transmitted from the phone would you like to enable airplane mode?

[samab]

What?

How many wired headphones can I use that are not iPhone certified. Single ear Bluetooth headsets? Where's the difference? Apple's not going to go broke by allowing A2DP headsets to pair with the iPhone when so many people use third-party earbuds and BT headsets already.

Also, there are plenty of details about Bluetooth that are not mentioned on the website. I don't see where the specs say, "supports Headset Profile (HSP)" but Apple sure a heck makes a bluetooth headset for iPhone. In fact, it doesn't mention any supported profiles. The exclusion of A2DP on the website means nothing and it's inclusion would not necessarily be worth mentioning at WWDC.

And for those asking, yes Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR can handle A2DP via software upgrade.

The issue has never been whether a software upgrade can do it --- the issue is they won't do it because they can make money off of it just by not spending time and energy on it.

Apple doesn't have to spend a single man-hour on it --- and they make money off of it. VS Apple spend the time and money on stereo bluetooth --- and then see their licensing revenue dropping.

Other people have been writing on this issue for a long time.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4229530.html

[Niiro13]

The question I have is Can the SDK be used to support A2DP?
I'm guessing that it wont give the program access to the bluetooth chip right?

I don't see anything in the SDK that allows access to the bluetooth feature at all.

And I don't think even the toolchain that allows for "more features" like emulators has it either (since even the jailbreak community hasn't developed anything with bluetooth.)

[pedroistheman]

that sucks, especially since california has this new law starting in a couple weeks requiring everyone to use a "handsfree device" while driving. Looks like I'm gonna have to buy a bluetooth and it's gonna have to be small since the law also states that minors can't drive w/ a cellphone even with bluetooth. booooh!:cool::cool:

[Donz0r]

the phone gets mad at you though it says some thing like "this accessory was not designed for the iphone and my be interrupted by signals transmitted from the phone would you like to enable airplane mode?


And you hit "no" and it works like a charm.

[skwoytek]

the phone gets mad at you though it says some thing like "this accessory was not designed for the iphone and my be interrupted by signals transmitted from the phone would you like to enable airplane mode?


All this is saying is that you might hear that "bleat eet bleep bleat bleep" noise from the speakers - this is a syndrome of 2G GSM, not 3G UMTS. Either way you can get away with using the product. But, iPhone 3G will have much less interference than 2G. Over bluetooth, as long as the phone isn't too close to the speakers you'll be fine.

[Donz0r]

All this is saying is that you might hear that "bleat eet bleep bleat bleep" noise from the speakers - this is a syndrome of 2G GSM, not 3G UMTS. Either way you can get away with using the product. But, iPhone 3G will have much less interference than 2G. Over bluetooth, as long as the phone isn't too close to the speakers you'll be fine.

Really?!? That's awesome! I have a Sony w810i phone right now, and speakers all around my bedroom and it's horrible! The noise is seriously horrific. Nothing ruins the mood more when my love-making music is interrupted with BUZZZ bEEEEEP BlOOOOOP...:mad:

[Fonzijr1964]

And you hit "no" and it works like a charm.

yes i know it just makes me mad

[Tibs066]

It come down to the basic principal that if apple cant make it and profit off of it they will not support it. Great buisness strategy, terrible customer services. It is pretty bad that i can go to pretty much any phone carrier and get a 50 dollar phone and it supports stereo bluetooth.

[thabronx31]

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2007/158/p158BT8iP-f_Black.jpeg

My Solution^
Sony BT8iP
iPod bluetooth adapter

Not ideal but it has great reviews and works with iPhone flawlessly from what i've read.


I just went and picked one of these, and :D:D!!! It works flawlessly.. Simple pairing and easy to use. The only problem is it sticks out a lil, but it'll be ok. I will post pic's in a minute. I so happy:cool:

[ICEBreaker]

I just went and picked one of these, and :D:D!!! It works flawlessly.. Simple pairing and easy to use. The only problem is it sticks out a lil, but it'll be ok. I will post pic's in a minute. I so happy:cool:

That's great! But it says it's for the iPod. Does it work for the iPhone too?

[TimothyB]

Would stereo Bluetooth effect battery life? How does it sound?

I'm just wondering what the cons are. As it seams that Apple leaves out the little things that could blemish a perfect phone. So, what the iPhone does have works great, with only the cons being whats missing. Compared to having all those features, but hurting battery, voice dial that doesn't work half the time, clumsy copy and paste, etc.

They've done such a great job with the changing the standard of a cell phone. I guess they just need more time to work out all the other features in a flawless manner that knocks the socks off other cell phones.

When I try to use bluetooth voice dial on my Sony Ericsson W810i I begin to curse and nearly do it manually until I get it right after the 5th time. It's probably better on other phones, but I'm sure Apple doesn't want such a feature that's kind of iffy on their perfect phone.

[Donz0r]

I bought that dongle thing too, from best buy for 70 bucks, even though I don't have my iPhone yet. I tried it on my girlfriend's iPhone and it works flawlessly.
When you get a call, the music fades out and pauses and your ringtone fades in. i don't know if you can use the headset to answer the call though, I think you have to hit answer on the actual iPhone, but I didn't have a lot of time to try it out. I can control the iPod or iPhone from your headset too, some bluetooth headsets have music player controls on them.
The thing is very compact. But it still sucks big time that apple didn't integrate this.
I'm using Plantronics Voyager 855 Stereo bluetooth headphones and it sounded great! I don't believe there's a bigger drain on battery as the bluetooth chip that is going to be in the iPhone is capable of doing it.

[Fonzijr1964]

i plan on getting one of these bad boys and a sony behind the neck bluetooth head set.

I have use sony headphones for years and they seem to be the best plus u know that sony to sony will work.

[Donz0r]

i plan on getting one of these bad boys and a sony behind the neck bluetooth head set.

I have use sony headphones for years and they seem to be the best plus u know that sony to sony will work.

that's cool, but it will work with Any headset, I've heard people saying it works flawlessly with the motorola s9, and I'm using plantronics 855.

You dont even have to sync, you just plug the thing in and start playing music, and it automatically syncs to the nearest bluetooth headset and starts playing!

[Fonzijr1964]

i know i just like things to match. and u can buy them as a set for less so thats what i'm gonna do

[walnuts]

For all those who think that Apple won't release A2DP because of a sound quality issue, I find the white earbuds are really not all that good. I would hardly imagine that Apple would use them as their standard and yet refuse to use bluetooth headphones due to a quality loss.

[Fonzijr1964]

For all those who think that Apple won't release A2DP because of a sound quality issue, I find the white earbuds are really not all that good. I would hardly imagine that Apple would use them as their standard and yet refuse to use bluetooth headphones due to a quality loss.

that is probably true

[j26]

I find A2DP perfectly fine up to about 150-160kph on my bike (when helmet noise takes over and my brain filters out the music to aid concentration), and excellent when off the bike.

[Aravintht]

that's cool, but it will work with Any headset, I've heard people saying it works flawlessly with the motorola s9, and I'm using plantronics 855.

You dont even have to sync, you just plug the thing in and start playing music, and it automatically syncs to the nearest bluetooth headset and starts playing!

so cool

will pick one up as soon as i can get my 3G iphone and confirm there is no A2DP

[mavis]

That's just crazy talk. A business model that has as its goal to make money? Why, those villains.Haha, awesome post - you said what I wanted to say but in a much nicer way than I would've said it. ;)

[retroneo]

It could easily be upgraded in firmware, but more to the point: Stereo Bluetooth's quality sucks.

Can't A2DP be activated via firmware upgrade? If I remember my XV6700 had a firmware upgrade that let me use A2DP.

It certainly could be, but Apple are the only ones who could release the updated software.

How about using a BT keyboard with the new iPhone? I wouldn't mind.

This would be great for some people. Again, Apple are the only ones who could release the updated software required.

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/products/2007/158/p158BT8iP-f_Black.jpeg

My Solution^
Sony BT8iP
iPod bluetooth adapter

Not ideal but it has great reviews and works with iPhone flawlessly

Looks awesome. Shame to have to buy an adapter that sticks out, when all the hardware is already in the iPhone!

[gtg738w]

What about the fact that Leopard supports A2DP? Why would they be so concerned with locking it out of the iPhone but enable it in other devices? Also, there have been some articles suggesting it is being worked on for 2.0. This one (http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=1549) points out traces of “RoleGps,” “RoleRemote,” and “RoleA2DP." We got GPS, We got our iTunes remote, so maybe A2DP is not that far behind...