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etoiles
Dec 2, 2003, 10:55 AM
Interesting chart, the share price of all three companies seems to follow the same pattern.
Also, if you go to 'company financials', you'll see that M$ spends 10x as much on R&D than Apple. What are they doing all day, racing their scooters between soda cans ?
monkeydo_jb
Dec 2, 2003, 11:13 AM
Link?
etoiles
Dec 2, 2003, 11:45 AM
doh !
chart (http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=charting&mode=basics&intraday=off&timeframe=10y&charttype=line&splits=off&movingaverage=none&lowerstudy=volume&comparison=on&index=&drilldown=off&symbol=AAPL&symbol=IBM&symbol=MSFT&selected=AAPL)
(the actual chart is pretty slow to load)
jxyama
Dec 2, 2003, 12:49 PM
not surprising... those company stock prices are much more affected by the state of the computer/technology industry than anything they do on their own... (unless it results in a catastrophic business collapse...)
M$ spends 10x on R&D in terms of dollars or percent of their operating finances? M$ is a bigger company than Apple, for one...
idkew
Dec 2, 2003, 02:41 PM
but check out the one year (http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=charting&mode=basics&intraday=off&timeframe=1y&charttype=line&splits=off&movingaverage=none&lowerstudy=volume&comparison=on&index=&drilldown=off&symbol=AAPL&symbol=IBM&symbol=MSFT&selected=AAPL) instead of the 10 year.
the five year (http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=charting&mode=basics&intraday=off&timeframe=5y&charttype=line&splits=off&movingaverage=none&lowerstudy=volume&comparison=on&index=&drilldown=off&symbol=AAPL&symbol=IBM&symbol=MSFT&selected=AAPL) is also interesting.
alset
Dec 2, 2003, 02:54 PM
That jump on the five year was when I bought my first shares in Apple. I picked it up at $17 and it was up by $100 almost instantly. Stock finally split after watching the ticker on CNN for months, and I did a dance in my (ex)-girlfriend's basement.
Dan
etoiles
Dec 2, 2003, 03:03 PM
they spend 10x as much in terms of dollars. Of course they are much bigger, but I would expect them to come up with some really cool stuff by putting all this effort into it. Maybe the PC world is just 10x more complicated :D
Apple spends 28% of their gross income on research, while M$ 'only' spends 18%.
That one year chart looks pretty cool, ah, the power of statistics
:p
so, Dan, is that were your pseudo comes from ?
billyboy
Dec 3, 2003, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by etoiles
they spend 10x as much in terms of dollars. Of course they are much bigger, but I would expect them to come up with some really cool stuff by putting all this effort into it. Maybe the PC world is just 10x more complicated :D
Apple spends 28% of their gross income on research, while M$ 'only' spends 18%.
That one year chart looks pretty cool, ah, the power of statistics
:p
so, Dan, is that were your pseudo comes from ?
or MS spend 2.5% of its total worth on R & D v Apple's 8%
jefhatfield
Dec 3, 2003, 02:05 PM
we will have to see what becomes of bill gates' smart watch
i think xbox must have cost a lot to develop...its a great console
benixau
Dec 3, 2003, 08:55 PM
to the post above, a theorem (theory that is proven):
MS Software is and insult to crud (its bad)
MS Hardware is a compliment to the hardware industry (its good)
And will always be the case
XBox is hardware (is good)
XBox ROM is software and easily cracked/modded (is bad)
MS has redone the Xbox ROM three times:
Rom 1 : cracked in three months
Rom 1a: cracked in three weeks
Rom 1b: cracked in four days
You would think they would give up wouldn't you.
etoiles
Dec 3, 2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by benixau
to the post above, a theorem (theory that is proven):
MS Software is and insult to crud (its bad)
MS Hardware is a compliment to the hardware industry (its good)
And will always be the case
Hey, you are right. I really like my M$ mouse, too. So if
M$ software = crap
M$ hardware = good
and
M$ software = making money
M$ hardware = losing money
then
crap = making money
good = losing money
that explains a lot ! :D
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