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Ambrose Chapel
Dec 4, 2003, 07:55 PM
These are letters that make me proud to be an American:

We can stop the murders of American soldiers in Iraq by those who seek revenge or to regain their power. Whenever there is an assassination or another atrocity we should proceed to the closest mosque and execute five of the first Muslims we encounter.

After all this is a "Holy War" and although such a procedure is not fair or just, it might end the horror.

Machiavelli was correct. In war it is more effective to be feared than loved and the end result would be a more equitable solution for both giving us a chance to build a better Iraq for the Iraqis.

- EMORY METZ WRIGHT JR., M.D.


Link (http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=opinion&story_id=120203b5_letters)

I am a United States sailor. I have chosen to defend my country and the freedom some take for granted.

I love my country, my family, my freedom. Only by the blood which was shed by the service members before me did we receive this freedom.

There are some, though, who do not appreciate this freedom. I call these people traitors; they call themselves protesters. They are nothing more than an infectious disease that infests the minds and hearts of the Americans we are defending. It consumes the honor and courage within its host until it kills the very patriotism that made this country.

There is no cure for this disease. Never will everyone be satisfied. But let it be known what this guardian of America's freedom thinks of these protesters: Traitors should be hanged. I hold our enemies in higher standing. At least they are willing to fight for their beliefs and the country they love.

Sonar Technician
Derik L.Jobe
U.S. Navy
Amarillo

link (http://www.amarillo.com/stories/120303/opi_letters.shtml)

i found both of these on atrios (http://atrios.blogspot.com/), which is required reading...

anyway yeah what do you think? amazed a paper would print these? the first is arizona, second is texas.


edited for spelling



Durandal7
Dec 4, 2003, 08:30 PM
Why do I find myself doubting the fact that the first guy is an actual doctor :rolleyes:

Sayhey
Dec 4, 2003, 09:18 PM
I think it was ol' Huey Long who said that if fascism ever came to America it would come wrapped in Red, White, and Blue. I think these two prove his point.

Ambrose Chapel
Dec 5, 2003, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by Durandal7
Why do I find myself doubting the fact that the first guy is an actual doctor :rolleyes:

mayhe he went to evil medical school ;)

vwcruisn
Dec 5, 2003, 09:47 AM
I love my country, my family, my freedom. Only by the blood which was shed by the service members before me did we receive this freedom.

There are some, though, who do not appreciate this freedom. I call these people traitors; they call themselves protesters. They are nothing more than an infectious disease that infests the minds and hearts of the Americans we are defending. It consumes the honor and courage within its host until it kills the very patriotism that made this country.

There is no cure for this disease. Never will everyone be satisfied. But let it be known what this guardian of America's freedom thinks of these protesters: Traitors should be hanged. I hold our enemies in higher standing. At least they are willing to fight for their beliefs and the country they love.




So much for the "freedom" he is fighting for eh?

Wouldn't protesting something you don't agree with be the equivelent of fighting for what you believe in anyway?

Sayhey
Dec 5, 2003, 11:55 AM
You know, I was serious when I called these two writers fascist. That is a term I don't like to use in debate because it is so emotionally laden with meanings. However, the tactics that "Doctor" Wright suggests are straight out of the playbook of the Nazi occupation forces. The solution that Seaman Jobe suggests for dealing with all those who dissent from this war is also a duplication of authoritarian regimes throughout history.

Besides the shocking nature of such proposals, the most important aspect of them maybe that they are not that far removed from the rhetoric of many far right commentators (Ann Coulter for example) that has begun to be more and more common these days. All one has to do is hear Coulter go on about the "treason" of liberals or her comments about muslims to see that Jobe's and Wright's suggestions are probably not too unusual among some of the believers of her charges. Throw in G. Gordon Liddy, Ollie North, and a few others and we have a witch's brew of poisonous, anti-democratic rhetoric that helps give people the idea that they can make such proposals and they will be taken seriously. Scary stuff!

mactastic
Dec 5, 2003, 11:58 AM
I suspect that these sentiments are harbored by more than a few people, although most won't have the courage to publicly admit to it.

IJ Reilly
Dec 5, 2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Sayhey
I think it was ol' Huey Long who said that if fascism ever came to America it would come wrapped in Red, White, and Blue. I think these two prove his point.

It also proves Samuel Johnson's adage, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."

3rdpath
Dec 5, 2003, 02:01 PM
well at least this soldier's letter, misguided as it is, doesn't appear to be part of the bush propaganda machine....

as seen here (http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml)

pseudobrit
Dec 5, 2003, 02:06 PM
We should take all the people that want to hang protesters and kill Muslims and hang them.