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kuyu
Dec 5, 2003, 11:46 AM
As queried in the subject, what do you feel is the best thing about a mac? Is it the hardware, software, OS, community, etc.?

Personally, I like the mac community. PC experts are almost always condesending elitists, while mac experts are usually friendly and willing to help.

In the words of Linda Richmond, "discuss amongst yourselves."



kettle
Dec 5, 2003, 12:18 PM
Is the way that other MAC users don't get all up tight about really dull things that don't really effect the bigger picture.
:eek:

kick me

stoid
Dec 5, 2003, 12:25 PM
No viruses. Period.

dukemeiser
Dec 5, 2003, 12:30 PM
Good call. I don't have to spend hundreds of dollars protecting my computer from viruses.
Macs don't burn you out as fast. At school, I get burnt to quick using Windoze. But I can work for hours on end using a Mac.

jxyama
Dec 5, 2003, 12:51 PM
general sense of robustness... (speaking about OS X)

and iPhoto. coupled with the iPhoto Library Manager, it's the best app i've ever used in my life. it really enriched my newest hobby. (digital photography)

CrackedButter
Dec 5, 2003, 12:52 PM
Everything just works...

rueyeet
Dec 5, 2003, 02:07 PM
The best thing about Macs vs. Windows, in general: When the Mac tries to second-guess my intentions and do something for me, it usually gets it RIGHT. On the first try. Before I even have to worry about it.

It's like the difference between a waiter at a high-class establishment (who will appear at your elbow at about the same time you realize you need him for something) and a pushy used-car salesman.

Yup. :)

leet1
Dec 5, 2003, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by dukemeiser
Good call. I don't have to spend hundreds of dollars protecting my computer from viruses.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=free+virus+scan

Gymnut
Dec 5, 2003, 02:24 PM
No SPYWARE!!!!!!

MacsRgr8
Dec 5, 2003, 02:33 PM
Mac's being short for Macintoshes :D

I just love 'em. :)

slipper
Dec 5, 2003, 03:29 PM
i used to be a closed minded PC user until my uncle convinced my parents to buy a G3 imac. i was pissed at the time but learned to love it. now i just purchased my own apple product, the ibook and love the OS even more. everything is seamlessly intergrated and works perfectly. apple hit the bullseye with panther. also as mentioned earlier no viruses. ive actually had viruses DL onto my computer but it couldnt work b/c i got a mac. also design. you could use your imac as a dinner table center piece!

Counterfit
Dec 5, 2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by slipper
you could use your imac as a dinner table center piece! Now there's an idea...
Kind of like the G3 iMacs they have at one of the dining halls at URI (Uni, of Rhode Island). They put some touchscreens on them, and you order your deli sandwiches.

7on
Dec 5, 2003, 03:46 PM
I'm probably the only guy who likes it for the hardware. I mean the software (OS) isn't terrible and I know the hardware isn't as speedy as PC counterparts, but sometimes reliability and stability are better than speed. I don't care how many times people say "But XP is the stablest Windows ever" because it's just not as stable as the Mac. No IRQ conflicts, no processor overheating, practically no hardware incompatibilities -- it's awesome. I also find it ironic that some PC hardware that is not officially Mac compatible will work out of the box while Windows needs the drivers.

g30ffr3y
Dec 5, 2003, 03:48 PM
the best thing about macs for me...

hmmm... they're just so dynamic... i showed some friends of mine around panther and the best comment was "everything jumps at you" macs are exciting and fun to use... they are great tools... PC's are for tools... hehehe...

the mac community kicks butt as well!!!!

Cooknn
Dec 5, 2003, 03:48 PM
I dig the way you install applications. Drag the folder to the location of your choice. To remove? Drag it to the Trash. Sweet :D

Gymnut
Dec 5, 2003, 03:55 PM
I appreciate Safari's built in pop-up blocker. I cannot imagine how many times my PC at work has been bombarded with pop-ups.

leet1
Dec 5, 2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Gymnut
I cannot imagine how many times my PC at work has been bombarded with pop-ups.


http://toolbar.google.com/

Counterfit
Dec 5, 2003, 05:25 PM
Too bad that doesn't make IE use the KHTML engine :rolleyes:

TEG
Dec 5, 2003, 05:28 PM
The best thing is the cost effictivness of a Macintosh Computer. You pay twice as much, for a computer that will be current for 2.5-3 times longer than a PC.

TEG

Makosuke
Dec 5, 2003, 05:55 PM
Because I don't have to feel quite as dirty about giving my money to a corporation that openly flaunts government regulations and whose sole purpose seems to be utter control of its users' personal lives. Oh, and putting any and every potential competitor out of business.

Apple (or Steve, anyway) may want complete control over the asthetics of the user's computing experience, but they don't seem to much care whether they've got complete control of your finances and online identy.

I think Apple, Inc. pays taxes, too.

Not getting viruses and the coolness of running UNIX ain't too bad at the end of the day, either.

Doctor Q
Dec 5, 2003, 06:02 PM
I like everything about Macs. The operating system, the cool designs, the focus on creativity, and the Mac community. And was before I got Unix too!

solvs
Dec 5, 2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by leet1
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=free+virus+scan
http://toolbar.google.com/

I might also suggest http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware. All being free (or cheap), but third party. Thank you for proving our point.

Macs are easier. Simple as that. I hate having to work just to get my Windows machines working. Firewalls, pop-up blockers, virus scanners, spyware scanners, maintenance programs...

Apple may not be perfect, but looking at their competition, they sure seem close.

i_wolf
Dec 5, 2003, 06:51 PM
As of G5, i think they have superior hardware to anything presently available. I like that! In terms of OS they have that one nailed too.
The way they have married the hardware so well to the OS is incredible and makes for a very reliable , stable and fast systems.
Im not sure if its the hardware , OS, or what ever, but we have found that we can have more windows open at once running their tasks happily on iBook G4 than we can on centrino running XP.
Now undoubtedly per app the centrino is faster ... much faster! (comparing 1GHz G4 versus 1.7 Pentium M aint exactly fair deal! ) however, in terms of speed penalty when lots of apps are open at once and running concurrently, the ibook g4 seams much faster. This is one area that i do not know too much about , but could someone tell me if a RISC processor is more adept at havin many processes running concurrently than say an x86??? Or is this another consequence of the OSX factor being superior to win XP??
Any experts??
I know on a per app the Centrino is much much faster, just wehn different apps are run in parallel (i.e. real world) the ibook seams to really strut its stuff in comparison which is a bit of a shock! Personally i put this down to windows.

Makosuke
Dec 5, 2003, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by i_wolf
...in terms of speed penalty when lots of apps are open at once and running concurrently, the ibook g4 seams much faster. This is one area that i do not know too much about , but could someone tell me if a RISC processor is more adept at havin many processes running concurrently than say an x86??? Or is this another consequence of the OSX factor being superior to win XP??It's definitely not because of the processor architecture. I have heard from several people that OSX, thanks to its highly multitasking UNIX core, is much better at spreading the load between multiple processes than Windows, at least outside of the Pro/Server versions.

I don't have enough in-depth knowledge to back this up for sure, but your comments seem to confirm this.

If nothing else, I can certainly say that UNIX has over 20 years of background as a multi-user system designed to efficiently spread load.

Adding one more data point, when I recently tried to bring my DP2.0 to its knees (I was stress testing, so I wanted to), I had to work VERY hard--essentially every app in my home folder, an iDVD project, MP3s, and several big videos before things started to stutter, and I think it was my HD choking since the process meter still wasn't maxed out completely.

7on
Dec 5, 2003, 11:00 PM
I have burned a CD, encoded a DVD, surfed the web, listen to itunes, Xchated, and iChated on my TiBook 1Ghz at the same time and it never choked the slightest bit. I think I might had mail.app open too. Then there is the 2.4ish Ghz PC user down the wing from me whose PC is rendered useless while converting wma to mp3. Now my Mac can't do that conversion, but nonetheless, if it could I'd have more to gloat about.

PCs = run one app super fast
Mac = run many apps at the same speed

leet1
Dec 5, 2003, 11:03 PM
7on, how much memory did each machine have?

Mord
Dec 6, 2003, 05:50 AM
there are a few reasons that i like Mac's

1) I've only crashed completely once when I kp'ed when testing how many app's i could run at the same time (32) before having any problems :-).

2) I own a cube it's so cool

3) i can't remember the last time I installed a driver stuff just work's out of the box my school was amazed when they saw me connect to one off there printers t print out some coursework the admin asked me "do you have the same printer at home?" I replied "no I have a mac no driver's needed" he now has a 1 GHz ti-book

4) hacking, I challenged my friend to hack into my mac first he tried a worm, worm received did nothing then he tried directly accessing my mac via smb Hit the firewall then i disabled the fire wall just to see what would happen and he hit file-vault's 128 bit encryption

5) 10.3 looks so cool

6)I can access any file in my whole school's network The school has some weird setup that my mac completely ignores!!!!! The admin found me when he tracked the connection he was annoyed very annoyed.

ChrisH3677
Dec 6, 2003, 09:45 AM
OSX

It's Unix base has achieved the following advantages over Windoze.

1) More flexible
2) More powerful
3) Infinitely more robust
4) More stable
5) More um multitaskingable. eg as I write I am also scanning photos and at the same time exporting a whole movie in FCE (which therefore has to render the whole thing). On my PC, everything stopped whenever I scanned.
6) There's a stack of *high quality* freeware
7) Applications are sooooooooooooo much smaller

Other reasons

8) OSX looks and feels better
9) iCal
10) Office vX is better than any Windoze version
11) Macs and Powerbooks come bundled with excellent free software
12) MacRumors
13) MacUpdate
14) Safari (except for firewall probs)
15) Safari's open all links in a group option (I've wanted that for 7 years!!)
16) And, they look better

jxyama
Dec 6, 2003, 10:37 AM
leet1-

do you have anything to say here other than "disputing" other people's comments?

these are opinions, as always, and are not really meant to be "proven" or be the "truth." in fact, this is a thread about the "best" thing about a Mac - it's one of many reasons many of us like a Mac...

great there are free virus softwares...
great there are pop-up blockers...
yeah, RAM may be a factor in one poster's multi-tasking problem on a PC...

so what? :rolleyes:

markjones05
Dec 6, 2003, 11:04 AM
Style, and ease of use. Inever thought a compter was sexy before i got my G4.

leet1
Dec 6, 2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by jxyama
leet1-

do you have anything to say here other than "disputing" other people's comments?

great there are free virus softwares...
great there are pop-up blockers...
yeah, RAM may be a factor in one poster's multi-tasking problem on a PC...

so what? :rolleyes:

Why would I try to dispute the things people like about macs? I was simply providing links to things to help them when they are on a PC. For some reason people think PC virus software is insanely expensive...when actually you can get it for free.

The point about the ram was, you can't compare two systems handling more programs if the factors aren't the same<i.e. one has 256megs of ram, other has 512> Just not a right comparison.

Counterfit
Dec 6, 2003, 11:42 AM
I would laugh if it was the OC that had more RAM...

kuyu
Dec 6, 2003, 11:59 AM
I realized another thing that I love about my mac.

My eMac 700 is faster than every pc made!!!!!!

Now, before you all tell me I've huffed too much paint, here me out. While my processor and system may not exactly compete with an intel or AMD, I can. Basically, a computer is only as fast as the person using it. And I can get so much more done on a mac than a faster pc.

Why? Every task on the pc involves so many more steps than the mac. EXAMPLE (adding an app to the dock/start menu)

WINDOZE:
1)click on start menu, open system prefs
2)select start menu from other menu
3)scroll through list until u find app
4)check box by app
5)close both windows, celebrate with a drink

APPLE:
1)Drag app icon to dock
2)celebrate with a drink

Screw a 999999999999999 ghz intel running windows, I'll take a 300 mhz G3 with some version of OS X anyday of the week.

leet1
Dec 6, 2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by kuyu
I realized another thing that I love about my mac.

My eMac 700 is faster than every pc made!!!!!!

Why? Every task on the pc involves so many more steps than the mac. EXAMPLE (adding an app to the dock/start menu)

WINDOZE:
1)click on start menu, open system prefs
2)select start menu from other menu
3)scroll through list until u find app
4)check box by app
5)close both windows, celebrate with a drink


or .....

1. Drag shortcut to start menu

lol :p

Horrortaxi
Dec 6, 2003, 12:30 PM
The thing I loved most when I switched was the ease of use, and that still is my favorite thing. "It just works" is an accurate statement but it sounds like an advertising soundbite (actually it is, isn't it?) so I'll reword it: I spend a lot of time working with my computer and almost no time working on my computer. Anything I've plugged into my computer has worked. Everything I've asked it to do, it's done.

There are lots of other things I love about the Mac, but that's easily #1.

matthew24
Dec 6, 2003, 12:35 PM
1) Unix ((multitasking-) performance/stability)
2) Aqua (it is beautiful)
3) easy to use/manage.
4) Application packages.
5) support of open standards.
6) No registry.
7) No DLL hell.
8) No defrag.
9) No annoying popups.
10) No insulting wizards.
11) OSX doesn't become slow overtime.
12) PowerPC / logic design (internal)
13) external design.
14) The Mac community. ;)

Counterfit
Dec 6, 2003, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by leet1
or .....

1. Drag shortcut to start menu

lol :p You mean
1. find app and make shortcut
2. drag shortcut to start menu
3. celebrate with drink

leet1
Dec 6, 2003, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by Counterfit
You mean
1. find app and make shortcut
2. drag shortcut to start menu
3. celebrate with drink

Nope, when you install a program on windows, it usually places a shortcut on your desk, so no need to go and find it, unless you chose not to.

Actually, you can also just right click and say send to start menu.

Don't make it sound like its insanely longer of a process to do on windows than OSX ;)

jxyama
Dec 6, 2003, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by leet1
Why would I try to dispute the things people like about macs? I was simply providing links to things to help them when they are on a PC. For some reason people think PC virus software is insanely expensive...when actually you can get it for free.

The point about the ram was, you can't compare two systems handling more programs if the factors aren't the same<i.e. one has 256megs of ram, other has 512> Just not a right comparison.

to me, it sounds like you are trying to turn this into a PC vs. Mac thread again by trying to burden the proof for some of the reasons posted. but that's just my opinion.

this is not about comparing two platforms to see which is better. it's just a small thread to see what you like about a Mac. it's not why is a Mac better than a PC thread. some of us may have done a comparison - so what? we are posting opinions about our personal experiences. it seems as if your intention is to nitpick every aspect of every poster...

by the way, if those free virus software are so good, why is there a multi-billion dollar antivirus industry? (this is a genuine question - i haven't owned a PC in a few years so i don't honestly know much about anti-virus software.) (notice i said i haven't owned... i have been using PCs all the time, but the last one i've owned and personally maintained was 6 or so years ago.)

kuyu
Dec 6, 2003, 04:06 PM
Matter of fact, you don't have to "install" most OSX apps, you just drag the icon to the destination. Further support that most tasks are simpler on a mac.

The only thing my pc (I do own one) did to simplify my life was make me use computers less. On the other hand, my mac is a pleasure to use instead of a burden, and I find myself actually interested in using it.

leet1
Dec 6, 2003, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by jxyama
by the way, if those free virus software are so good, why is there a multi-billion dollar antivirus industry?

No clue, but there is also an industry for firewalls, yet same goes for them(free ones out there)

Rower_CPU
Dec 6, 2003, 04:40 PM
From what I've seen of "free" anti-virus software, they seem to mostly fall into 2 categories:

1) online checkers
2) trial/crippled versions of commercial software

Type 1 does nothing to safeguard you from getting viruses in the first place and can't scan on file access or unattended at a scheduled time.

Type 2 often provides a bare minimum of functionality, but is only good for a trial period or doesn't have the features you really need to provide adequate protection.

As the saying goes, "something is better than nothing", but remember "you get what you pay for". ;)

Fender2112
Dec 6, 2003, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by markjones05
Style, and ease of use. Inever thought a compter was sexy before i got my G4.

Wait til ya get a G5. :)

MattG
Dec 6, 2003, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by kuyu
In the words of Linda Richmond, "discuss amongst yourselves." I thought it was "talk amongst yourselves" :)

But anyway...Simply put, everything is just easier on a Mac.

Fender2112
Dec 6, 2003, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by kuyu
... Why? Every task on the pc involves so many more steps than the mac. EXAMPLE (adding an app to the dock/start menu)

WINDOZE:
1)click on start menu, open system prefs
2)select start menu from other menu
3)scroll through list until u find app
4)check box by app
5)close both windows, celebrate with a drink

APPLE:
1)Drag app icon to dock
2)celebrate with a drink

Screw a 999999999999999 ghz intel running windows, I'll take a 300 mhz G3 with some version of OS X anyday of the week.

Here's my favorite:

Task: Change your startup disk.

XP:
1. Right click on the "My Computer" icon.
2. Select "System Properties".
3. Click the "Advanced" tab.
4. Click "Startup and Recovery" button.
5. Select the boot system you want to use.
6. Decide if you would like to select your boot system each time you start or restart.
6a. Mark appropriate choice.
6b. Click "Apply" or "OK" (I can't remember if this step was actually involved but is typical of a Windows dialog box.)
7. Click "Start" menu.
8. Select "Shut Down".
9. Select "Restart".

Mac OS X:
1. Go to the Dock or Apple menu.
2. Select "System Preferences".
3. Click "Startup Disk".
3. Select the disk or volume you want to use.
4. Click "Restart".

But to answer the question, I like using a Mac because of the OS. To me, OS X is just a nicer environment to work in.

KBFinFan
Dec 7, 2003, 12:11 AM
The one best thing.. hmm there are so many..

I'd say that my Mac has a soul.. it's like a friend.. it has a life and a real feeling to it.

I know it sounds 'fruity,' but I've owned many PCs and they only feel like an appliance. I mean who gets attached to a fridge or stove?

Mav451
Dec 7, 2003, 04:58 AM
i realize that while i'm a PC user, i'm still repeatedly drawn to the mac.

1) look at my theme. I'm using the "iTunes" Visual Style.

2) I absolutely cannot go back to using IE, when i'm using Mozilla Firebird.
-that means protection from the popups/security issues.
-integrated popup blocker means not extra threads/programs running in the background.

As a gamer, my pc has never felt like an "appliance" but i can see how the pc's at "work" (at the job PC's are loaded with security measures so the less computer savvy don't mistakenly and ignorantly load the computers with gator/spyware; or open attachments even when the IT office had repeatedly warned them 2 days ago not to open attachments.

In those cases, the PC's are ugly and unfriendly--and that's completely understandable.

blogo
Dec 7, 2003, 08:09 AM
The system doesn't get alle that sluggish over the time because of spyware and other crappy software.

Mav451
Dec 7, 2003, 01:35 PM
Eple: You'd be suprised how little spyware gets through if you use Mozilla Firebird and Spybot (i haven't even checked in 3 months; i'm that confident nothing has gotten through).

OH--and obviously not downloading useless utilities/programs from cnet.com or download.com or kazaa.

Obviously, most of the general public still uses IE (and while Spybot can "immunize" IE from executing Active X among other things); it does nothing to teach the general public COMMON SENSE not to install kazaa. Sigh. Until then, install Spybot S & D on friends/family's computers and help them out =D

PS: I don't think there are as many useless utilities for the Mac as there are for the PC (several vs. millions? haha)

ChrisH3677
Dec 9, 2003, 06:58 AM
17) Built in PDF generation
18) Selectable area in screen capture
19) Built in spellchecker

Nik_Doof
Dec 9, 2003, 08:00 AM
My favorate things? mmm well

1) REAL plug and play
2) Having CUPS on the linux print server made setting up the printer just that little bit easier....more like no work was needed
3) REAL suspend mode on my PB, not like botched windows laptops that never really suspend properly, usually crash en burn when unsuspended.
4) you dont need to spend 3-4 weeks learning the OS, it just works naturally...

in addition to that, when i first got my powerbook i tried to learn MacOSX... spent ages scratching my head over simple things, thank god for my computer idiot girlfriend...she could use it better than i could! so talk about simple to use! i was taking a far too techincal approach to using macs.

benixau
Dec 9, 2003, 09:29 AM
I have installed only 2 drivers EVER whilst owning my mac and only cause i wanted the advanced features:

My HP Deskjet 5550 didn't need them but advanced options (such as amount of ink to use in each drop) are only available through them.

My MS Wireless Optical Mouse cause I could use it but I wanted to configure the middle button to do special things : in safari it Cmd-Clicks (open link in new tab), globally (if app not specified) it double-clicks, in preview push+roll forward zooms in, etc etc

Basically - I didn't need these drivers - I wanted them - and even though they were only meant for jag (which they worked nicely on) they installed flawlessly in panther too.

trebblekicked
Dec 9, 2003, 10:16 AM
when i bought in, it was the hardware (fast as balls G4s, back in the pentium toasting days). through today, it's been the software. fcp, osx, itunes, and i get all the other stuff i need too. the community is an added bonus, as is the design.

themadchemist
Dec 9, 2003, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Counterfit
Now there's an idea...
Kind of like the G3 iMacs they have at one of the dining halls at URI (Uni, of Rhode Island). They put some touchscreens on them, and you order your deli sandwiches.

At NU we don't have iMacs...or deli sandwiches.

kuyu
Dec 9, 2003, 11:40 AM
At UK (Kentucky) all of our mac labs are hidden in various spots around campus. Most of my friends don't know where they are, even though they pass by the labs on a daily basis. Most of the macs have scanners, keyboards, or some order of insanely expensive equipment hooked to them. The pc's on campus have a terrible grinding sound "attached" to them!

*unrelated banter*
BTW, sorry to dissapoint the rest of the Div. 1 schools out there, but the Wildcats are going to win the SEC title/championship (again) and the big dance this spring. Tubby Smith is the man.

tj2001
Dec 9, 2003, 03:13 PM
To me I love Apple computers for one solid reason: It Just Works! Simple as that.

encro
Dec 9, 2003, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by benixau
My MS Wireless Optical Mouse cause I could use it but I wanted to configure the middle button to do special things : in safari it Cmd-Clicks (open link in new tab), globally (if app not specified) it double-clicks, in preview push+roll forward zooms in, etc etc

Awesome! I'm assuming you mean the Bluetooth Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer?

I have the Wireless Optical Desktop and have lost my CD that came with it. I was wondering if you could possibly email the WindowsXP drivers to me at all?

benixau
Dec 10, 2003, 03:25 AM
encro - The MS Wireless optical mouse is a 27 MHz device - I do not have the BT version and sadly - stingy MS - wont let you download it.

Anyone else able to help him.
If the file is too big - i will arrange an iChat with the person as I have cable and I can then send a CD of the driver to the person.

Thanks guys in advance and sorry encro.

Nermal
Dec 10, 2003, 04:08 AM
What I like about the Mac:

Dragability. If I want to put an icon in the Dock, I can just drag it there. If I want to remove it, I just drag it out. If I want to add an attachment to an email, I drag it in. And so on. Sure, you can drag in Windows too, but most Windows apps seem to like grabbing the entire screen so you can't see what you're doing!

Which leads me on to Exposé. If I can't see what I want, I can just press an Exposé key and get there immediately.

iTunes. I love iTunes. It's out for Windows now which nullifies this advantage :(

Stability. I think my iBook crashed 6 times in its 10-month lifetime. Contrast that with my mum's Dell laptop, which crashed within its first hour of use, and it took me 40 minutes to get it going again. It involved running chkdsk from a recovery console. Imagine what it would be like to have to do that if you're inexperienced with Windows!

No popups. When I got my first Mac, the first thing I downloaded was Safari. Now I don't have to put up with popups, or virii for that matter.

PDF. The inbuilt PDF creation is excellent. Time for a little story. In our programming class, our teacher draw a diagram on the board explaining how database programming works. Some people started copying it down by hand. The guy next to me, Nick, starts up OpenOffice on Windows and starts creating the diagram. I pull out my iBook, fire up OmniGraffle, and have the entire thing drawn 5 minutes before Nick has finished - and mine looks a lot nicer. I proceed to make a PDF of it, and email it to everyone who wanted it.

Portability. My Power Mac's handles make it easier to carry than my old PC :)

I could go on like this all night!

virividox
Dec 10, 2003, 04:59 AM
The looks of jelousy and anger as you pop your mac open and do everything they want to do with the click of a couple mouse buttons.

seriously, it just works, no need to pull hair out to get something to work. Plus the mac community always gives great advice.

CmdrLaForge
Dec 10, 2003, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by CrackedButter
Everything just works...

Agree. Thats the best thing ! ! !

ethernet76
Dec 10, 2003, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by leet1
or .....

1. Drag shortcut to start menu

lol :p

The problem with the start menu is that every program is like, "hey I'll throw my stuff in there so they can use me all the time..," and if you want to delete it you have to right-click it, then click delete.

With the dock you just click, hold and drag it out of the dock. I put what I want in the dock.

I hate having the start menu with the thing where has to wrap to another menu because i have 3000 programs intalled and every single one ever is in there. And with companies routinely attaching their name before the product, i.e. "Lavasoft AdAware" it's a pain in the ass to search for stuff i don't use that often. I look at my dock and can name each thing, even if i don't use it that much.

ChrisH3677
Dec 10, 2003, 06:03 AM
Seeing Ethernet76 mention AdAware reminded me of something I REALLY love about OSX...

I don't have to clog my system with anti-this-and-that software.

eg anti-virus, anti-hackers, anti-adware, anti-popups, anti-freeze, anti-crash

did i miss any?

PS And I love your "...little story..." Nermal. It really summed the productivity up of Macs and OSX well.

billyboy
Dec 10, 2003, 11:41 AM
People say that a cheap fast PC is the best deal for surfing the web, emailing, but Im not so sure. With a Mac you pay a premium for functional simplicity which very often gives you a deal that is far faster than any suped up PC running Windows.

ie My PC mate wanted me to email some Macromedia flash code to his Yahoo account. He was like an old woman saying do this, that and the other the "Windows and free Yahoo way", by which time I had highlighted the code, opened Mail, clicked on new, dragged and dropped the code across and typed in his address. Goodbye. It was as quick as that.

Maybe the PC way would do the same job but no way is it so clear and stressless.

Mord
Dec 10, 2003, 11:51 AM
It's like comparing a tvr with an austin martin tvr may be fast but is breaks down every frickin minet the austin just runs and runs and runs

patrick0brien
Dec 10, 2003, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by kuyu
As queried in the subject, what do you feel is the best thing about a mac? Is it the hardware, software, OS, community, etc.?

-kuyu

It's the fact I can trust it with 15+years of personal and professional information and not only not have to worry about reliability, but reporting anything back to motherships.

Lain.v2
Dec 10, 2003, 08:02 PM
The only thing I can not dispute (with myself) is that they look damn cool :D

stoid
Dec 10, 2003, 08:47 PM
I have a friend that was a HUGE Windows buff, used them all his life, does huge amounts of php programming, and all kinds of crazy **** on his Windows machine. Having seen the work I've done on the Mac I convinced him to buy a new 15 inch PBook like mine, and he said that he loved the .dmg idea! I didn't believe him that there wasn't equivalent free part of Windows that did the same thing. I mean, it's a great idea, and most of Apple's great ideas have been bastardized into the Window's OSes.

As far as using a Mac over Windows, I feel that Windows computers can be extremely powerful and productive tools, but my Mac is really a part of me. It's an extension of my person, and that connection makes it so many more times productive.

Awimoway
Dec 11, 2003, 03:11 AM
What do I love?

The fact that there are so many things to list, as has been shown above, is what I love about it. It's a complete package.

But I'll add one more: trust. I trust my computer because I trust my OS and I (mostly) trust the developer. I trust it it to work, to respect my way of doing things, and to be secure. Using Windows preyed on my anxieties--I always felt vulnerable and exploited.

But what I appreciate most every morning that I wake it up is that it's so damn good looking.

Chappers
Dec 11, 2003, 10:21 AM
Yeh it has to be everthing.