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Thomas Veil
Jun 23, 2008, 06:33 AM
Children fed 'silly pills,' forced to perform sex shows (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/22/sex.club.children.ap/index.html)

MINEOLA, Texas (AP) -- In the windowless front rooms of a former day care center in a tiny Texas community, children as young as 5 were fed powerful painkillers they knew as "silly pills" and forced to perform sex shows for a crowd of adults.

Two people have already been convicted in the case. Now a third person with ties to the club, previously known in town only as a swingers group, is set to go on trial Monday not far from Mineola, population 5,100.

"This really shook this town," said Shirley Chadwick, a longtime resident of Mineola. "This was horrible."

Patrick Kelly, 41, is charged with aggravated sexual assault of a child, tampering with physical evidence and engaging in organized criminal activity.

In all, six adults have been charged in connection with the case, including a parent of the three siblings involved.

Jurors this year deliberated less than five minutes before returning guilty verdicts against the first two defendants, who were accused of grooming the kids for sex shows in "kindergarten" classes and passing off Vicodin as "silly pills" to help the children perform.

Jamie Pittman and Shauntel Mayo were sentenced to life in prison. Kelly also faces a life sentence if convicted, and Smith County prosecutors hope for another swift verdict.

Thad Davidson, Kelly's attorney, said his client passed a lie-detector test proving his innocence and worries about getting a fair trial in Tyler, 25 miles southeast of Mineola, which is in Wood County.

"I think it's impossible to get a fair trial within 80 miles of Smith County," Davidson said.

Mineola, about 80 miles east of Dallas, is a close-knit, conservative bean-processing town of with more than 30 churches. Residents there want to put the scandal behind them as quickly as possible.

The one-story building where prosecutors say four children -- the three siblings, now ages 12, 10 and 7, and their 10-year-old aunt -- were trained to perform in front of an audience of 50 to 100 once a week has been vacant since the landlord ousted the alleged organizers in 2004.

Down a slight hill is a retirement home, and even closer is the office of the local newspaper. Doris Newman, editor of The Mineola Monitor, said rumors of swinger parties spread around town but that no one mentioned children being involved....

According to a Mineola police report, the department first investigated a complaint in June 2005 in which the siblings' foster mother said one of the girls described dancing toward men and another child saying that "everybody does nasty stuff in there."

In the second trial, Child Protective Services caseworker Kristi Hachtel testified, "I've seen a lot and I never in my wildest dreams imagined this. They were preyed upon in probably one of the most heinous ways possible.":eek: (the mind boggles...just absolutely frickin' boggles!) :eek:

I almost didn't post this, not because it's not newsworthy, but because...what's debatable about it?

One of the most sickening, revolting things I've ever read in my life. :mad:



Motley
Jun 23, 2008, 08:51 AM
The story is crazy enough to make me wonder if it's actually true. There've been too many stories were it all turned out to be a lie pushed by an angry parent, told by children looking for attention, and pursued by over-zealous prosecutor.

Gray-Wolf
Jun 23, 2008, 07:54 PM
What if its real? Children are exploited these days for Sick adults use. In this world, children have become playthings for some adults, and should pay the highest price for it. The child, can be permanently harmed, and robbed for living a normal life.

PlaceofDis
Jun 23, 2008, 07:56 PM
read about this earlier today. its heartbreaking what people do to kids and other humans. makes you wonder about a lot of things in this world.

.Andy
Jun 23, 2008, 07:57 PM
What if its real? Children are exploited these days for Sick adults use. In this world, children have become playthings for some adults, and should pay the highest price for it. The child, can be permanently harmed, and robbed for living a normal life.
Unfortunately it's not these days. It's always been. At least these days children have legal representation and protection which they weren't afforded historically.

Gelfin
Jun 23, 2008, 09:06 PM
This is horrible if true, but I really want to know if there was any corroborating evidence other than human testimony here. The description in that article has a whiff of witch hunt about it.

Any time parents turn up with their kids telling really incredibly horrible stories of abuse at the hands of people the parents already reviled for another reason, there is reason for concern. Children are easy to coach, will readily confabulate under questioning, and yet are dead simple for a prosecutor to sell as perfectly innocent and thus perfectly reliable. On the other hand, cross-examination of a child, even suggesting things didn't happen the way he's saying, alienates the jury.

The claim of a weekly gathering of 50-100 people to watch this is what's getting to me. A town of 5,000 people is an "everybody knows everybody's business" town. You just don't hide a conspiracy of a hundred people in a community that size. The defendants couldn't even hide that they were "swingers," and presumably they didn't advertise.

Another thing: Vicodin? I suppose individual reactions may vary, but I am a full grown adult-type person, and the one thing Vicodin makes me isn't silly; it's sleepy. If I were looking to enhance the mood of a special evening, so to speak, one thing I would not be popping in my mouth is Vicodin. You start giving Vicodin to kids, my suspicion is you're going to have the unconscious kiddies show and that's about it.

I don't want to sound unsympathetic. If this really happened as described, I'm absolutely horrified. I recognize that adults absolutely do bad things to children and have done forever, and that there may have been evidence in the testimony that would clear up all my doubts, but what little I've heard makes me wonder if maybe some unpopular people weren't railroaded.

Ugg
Jun 23, 2008, 09:21 PM
What if its real? Children are exploited these days for Sick adults use. In this world, children have become playthings for some adults, and should pay the highest price for it. The child, can be permanently harmed, and robbed for living a normal life.

If true, this is horrific, however I agree that "these days" is a nonsensical statement. It's been going on since time began. Victorian London was a particularly vile place and time for unfortunate children.

At least the kids in TX have legal recourse and access to counseling. Something that didn't exist in the "good old days".

SMM
Jun 24, 2008, 03:45 AM
:eek: (the mind boggles...just absolutely frickin' boggles!) :eek:

I almost didn't post this, not because it's not newsworthy, but because...what's debatable about it?

One of the most sickening, revolting things I've ever read in my life. :mad:

I am very glad you did post it, Thomas Veil. The story was totally off my radar. I suppose that is due to focusing on social, political and economic stories. This is so disgusting, it defies any possible civilized way to digest it. Only in Texas. I recall a 60 minutes show about private game preserves in Texas. In one scene, it shows a private hunting ranch. There was a large pond, which the owner had constructed a a quick drop blind. Behind it were a large number of 'city hunters'. They set out many decoys, but also other enticements, which the show said were illegal, anywhere on public lands. Soon, a very large flock of Canadian Geese landed in the pond. I do not recall if they ever said how many. At the right moment, the blind was dropped, and these animals all open fired. It was a slaughter. None escaped. the pond was littered with their corpses. The Texans were hooting and hollering. They were jumping up and down, high-fiving each other. The geese were scooped up and hauled away to a rendering plant. There was not even a pretext that they lost their lived to provide food.

This was the most disgusting story I had ever imagined. That is until you posted yours. Yes, yours takes the cake, I am sorry to say. Someone had a signature which goes something like "Texas: Illegally obtained, Universally admired". What a laugh. What is closer is " ...... Universally despised..:"