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Roy Hobbs
Jun 26, 2008, 02:25 PM
On my Mac I have several email account set up in Mail. With MobileMe Mail receives a new message and it is pushed to the iPhone and MobileMe webste.

Is it crazy to think that ANY account set up in Mail will work this way or just .me and .mac addresses??



kdog1176
Jun 26, 2008, 02:29 PM
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I would think just your .mac or .me email.

Roy Hobbs
Jun 26, 2008, 02:35 PM
After watching the video Apple posted again, they just refer to "your email" is pushed.

In theory it would seem that any new message would get pushed. If so MobileMe would be well worth the $99 per year.

tritonj
Jun 26, 2008, 02:36 PM
On my Mac I have several email account set up in Mail. With MobileMe Mail receives a new message and it is pushed to the iPhone and MobileMe webste.

Is it crazy to think that ANY account set up in Mail will work this way or just .me and .mac addresses??

MobileMe is a service Apple is providing, it is probably an Exchange server on the backend for the e-mail and a bunch of webdav folders for the shared workspace.
it has nothing to do with the e-mail client you are using to view the mail. you could have mail from other accounts sync'ed up if you forwarded all the mail to the mobileme account, otherwise unless the servers for the other account support it, its not sync'ing anywhere

HSquared
Jun 26, 2008, 02:44 PM
MobileMe is so overpriced for something that you can do for free anyway. In the case of the email, it'll work with any sort of email, more or less. Not just .mac addresses and @me.com addresses.

robbieduncan
Jun 26, 2008, 02:47 PM
Only stuff that goes through .me will get pushed out to the iPhone. Stuff that is on your local Mac Mail will never go to the .me server so isn't available to be pushed out.

Simple answer: forward all your mail to .me.

mark34
Jun 26, 2008, 02:49 PM
MobileMe is so overpriced for something that you can do for free anyway. In the case of the email, it'll work with any sort of email, more or less. Not just .mac addresses and @me.com addresses.

Overpriced....FOR YOUR PURPOSES. It has many additional features that are well worth the money for those of us who value the integration with other iLife programs, multiple devices, outlook, etc. This has been explained at great length. Whether or not the value is there for someone depends on how that person would use it and their personal situation. To me it is huge and I can't wait. I already find .mac to be worth it.

tritonj
Jun 26, 2008, 02:51 PM
MobileMe is so overpriced for something that you can do for free anyway. In the case of the email, it'll work with any sort of email, more or less. Not just .mac addresses and @me.com addresses.

definately agree about the pricing, but i have to hand it to Apple, they don't reinvent the wheel, they just repackage it and sell it to people as something new and innovative, and they are successful at doing that

grapes911
Jun 26, 2008, 02:54 PM
MobileMe is so overpriced for something that you can do for free anyway.
How can I freely push my email? I've tried mail2web, but is really sucks.

Bosox3
Jun 26, 2008, 02:56 PM
for the people that complain about the $$..you can just as easy find it cheaper online.
then again..people would complain about the service even if it was $5.

mark34
Jun 26, 2008, 02:58 PM
definately agree about the pricing, but i have to hand it to Apple, they don't reinvent the wheel, they just repackage it and sell it to people as something new and innovative, and they are successful at doing that

they do a nice job of pulling some of this stuff together in a way that is fully integrated and less kludgy than other options. Some of us like to just drag our photos in iPhoto to a folder and poof...web gallery. Instantaneously linked to relatives and to my AppleTV. Add to that the ability to do the same from the iPhone with MobileMe. 20GB storage. Decent email product. syncing devices via push across different platforms, including ability to align windows outlook to iphone, mac computers for calendar, mail, contacts. iDisk. All executed elegantly. For a $100 a year? works for me. Not that other solutions aren't also good, but to me.. this optimizes the value of being on a Mac in the first place.

If i was an exclusively PC user who owns an iPhone? nah, I wouldn't use MobileMe. granted i would shoot myself for being exclusively a PC user.

The General
Jun 26, 2008, 03:02 PM
On my Mac I have several email account set up in Mail. With MobileMe Mail receives a new message and it is pushed to the iPhone and MobileMe webste.

Is it crazy to think that ANY account set up in Mail will work this way or just .me and .mac addresses??

Nope, just the MobileMe email account.

tritonj
Jun 26, 2008, 03:10 PM
they do a nice job of pulling some of this stuff together in a way that is fully integrated and less kludgy than other options. Some of us like to just drag our photos in iPhoto to a folder and poof...web gallery. Instantaneously linked to relatives and to my AppleTV. Add to that the ability to do the same from the iPhone with MobileMe. 20GB storage. Decent email product. syncing devices via push across different platforms, including ability to align windows outlook to iphone, mac computers for calendar, mail, contacts. iDisk. All executed elegantly. For a $100 a year? works for me. Not that other solutions aren't also good, but to me.. this optimizes the value of being on a Mac in the first place.

If i was an exclusively PC user who owns an iPhone? nah, I wouldn't use MobileMe. granted i would shoot myself for being exclusively a PC user.

let's not turn this into a PC vs. Mac discussion, because it isn't, MobileMe doesn't depend on a platform, it is simply hosted services Apple is providing nothing more and nothing less

Locoboof
Jun 26, 2008, 03:57 PM
wait a minute wait a minute you mean to tell me if I buy this mobile me I can't hook up my 2 @yahoo accounts to it? If not then its useless to me. I have 2 email address that I check all day and if I buy mobile me I'll have a total of 3 email addresses I need to check every day all day? WTF. Or what will I have to go to every web site and forum and my banks cell company ebay paypal to change my address on each site it a new .me address mobiles gives me.......cmon I have had one of these email adds since 1997 I do want moblie me but if I cant get my current email accounts to be pushed threw mobile me I'm out.

robbieduncan
Jun 26, 2008, 04:00 PM
wait a minute wait a minute you mean to tell me if I buy this mobile me I can't hook up my 2 @yahoo accounts to it?

You can still get them in pull mode, but not push mode, unless yahoo start supporting that. You could simply forward your yahoo accounts to mobileme.

tritonj
Jun 26, 2008, 04:03 PM
wait a minute wait a minute you mean to tell me if I buy this mobile me I can't hook up my 2 @yahoo accounts to it? If not then its useless to me. I have 2 email address that I check all day and if I buy mobile me I'll have a total of 3 email addresses I need to check every day all day? WTF. Or what will I have to go to every web site and forum and my banks cell company ebay paypal to change my address on each site it a new .me address mobiles gives me.......cmon I have had one of these email adds since 1997 I do want moblie me but if I cant get my current email accounts to be pushed threw mobile me I'm out.

you could forward all the yahoo mail to go to mobileme. mobileme is just imap, so it isn't going to do much for you outside of that specific account

MobileMe Mail stays the same wherever you go thanks to IMAP technology. Whether you check your email on your computer, iPhone, iPod touch, or the web, read messages are marked as read, flagged messages are flagged, and all your folders are exactly the way you left them.

mark34
Jun 26, 2008, 04:16 PM
let's not turn this into a PC vs. Mac discussion, because it isn't, MobileMe doesn't depend on a platform, it is simply hosted services Apple is providing nothing more and nothing less

I wasn't, that was just a joke, however I do believe that it achieves its greatest value when using iLife on a Mac and AppleTV and iPhone, etc. Though in addition, one of its great benefits is pulling together multi-platform people like myself. Allows me to be mostly Apple, but use Outlook at work, but never have to sync to my work PC. My only point is that if I was a pure PC user, I just don't think the benefit would be worth it. I would probably just go with google or something. To me it is an Apple optimizing product that crosses platform to allow a cohesive multi platform life.

tallyho
Jun 26, 2008, 04:31 PM
let's not turn this into a PC vs. Mac discussion, because it isn't, MobileMe doesn't depend on a platform, it is simply hosted services Apple is providing nothing more and nothing less
Can you set up the web galleries from Windows?

rtmadden
Jun 26, 2008, 04:35 PM
How can I freely push my email? I've tried mail2web, but is really sucks.

I've used 1&1 Internet for my MS Exchange services. It's only about $21/3 months and I've been fairly happy with it. I'm honestly thinking about just picking up MobileMe and forgetting the whole MS deal.

Locoboof
Jun 26, 2008, 04:41 PM
You can still get them in pull mode, but not push mode, unless yahoo start supporting that. You could simply forward your yahoo accounts to mobileme.

what does pull email mean? Man I want it to work just like the demo.....and I'm not sure if you could forward yahoo email....correct me if I'm wrong

mark34
Jun 26, 2008, 04:50 PM
Can you set up the web galleries from Windows?

I don't think so. Web galleries are integrated with iPhoto. .Mac options are available in drop down menus and icons throughout iLife programs. That is my point as to how it is an integrated product as opposed to merely a hosting add-on that any number of products can provide.

TonyHoyle
Jun 26, 2008, 04:51 PM
Push - the server notifies you of new email when it arrives. This is theoretically instant (in practice it's not, due to processing delays, but it's fairly fast). The disadvantage is you need to keep an open connection to the server, which drains battery.
Pull - You ask the server periodically if there's any new email. This introduces a maximum delay of the polling period. If you only ask every 15 minutes for example you can introduce a 14 minute delay.

Locoboof
Jun 26, 2008, 05:01 PM
well if you go to apple.com and click on buy mobile me it says free shipping available wich means there is some sort of software install.....maybe its just for pc's so we could do the gallery stuff and everything els just like you mac guys.....

Also thank you for answering my push and pull question, but if it dosent work just like the keynote with my @yahoo account and @ sbcglobal.net account I'm not buying this as much as I would like to

txr0ckabilly
Jun 26, 2008, 05:18 PM
I don't think so. Web galleries are integrated with iPhoto. .Mac options are available in drop down menus and icons throughout iLife programs. That is my point as to how it is an integrated product as opposed to merely a hosting add-on that any number of products can provide.

i don't think that's entirely correct.

yes it is built for cohesiveness with iphoto and the mac, in that you can drag and drop from iphoto and web galleries but if you watch the entire .me introduction and read up on it a bit more, you'll see they are all web tools.

"it's like having a new desktop, and we hope it becomes that, but it's all on the web." (quoted loosely but i think that is directed at the pc users)

mavis
Jun 26, 2008, 06:32 PM
yes it is built for cohesiveness with iphoto and the mac, in that you can drag and drop from iphoto and web galleries but if you watch the entire .me introduction and read up on it a bit more, you'll see they are all web tools.Perhaps, but I'll take an app running at full speed on my iMac over a web app any day. And that's the point, I think - Apple is trying to market MobileMe to Windows users as well as Mac users, and if you're talking about web + (psuedo)Exchange hosting for about $100 a year, you could do a lot better (and you could do worse) - it's definitely not a spectacular deal. But for Mac users, we get all the same features PLUS tight integration with the entire suite of iLife apps, which come for free with our computers. ;)

txr0ckabilly
Jun 26, 2008, 09:16 PM
edited for drunken bitchyness

shrimpdesign
Jun 26, 2008, 09:44 PM
wait a minute wait a minute you mean to tell me if I buy this mobile me I can't hook up my 2 @yahoo accounts to it? If not then its useless to me. I have 2 email address that I check all day and if I buy mobile me I'll have a total of 3 email addresses I need to check every day all day? WTF.

No. I've heard from a MobileMe designer it can check POP addresses much like Gmail.

7on
Jun 26, 2008, 10:10 PM
Let's put it into this perspective: per month mobileme is $8.33.

jplan2008
Jun 26, 2008, 10:17 PM
No. I've heard from a MobileMe designer it can check POP addresses much like Gmail.

Dot Mac already can be configured to check POP addresses, but on the webmail, you can't reply from a different address. Since they're doing a major re-vamp of the webmail interface (from what I can see, going from no better or worse than gmail/Yahoo to much better, from looking at the demos), I wouldn't be surprised if they change that.

mavis
Jun 26, 2008, 10:26 PM
Dot Mac already can be configured to check POP addresses, but on the webmail, you can't reply from a different address. Since they're doing a major re-vamp of the webmail interface (from what I can see, going from no better or worse than gmail/Yahoo to much better, from looking at the demos), I wouldn't be surprised if they change that.I certainly hope they do! That's the ONE thing I'm really disappointed about with .Mac - I don't want to have to give out my .Mac email address when I've been using the same address for years (on a personal domain) with my friends and family. ATM, it's not possible to change the "Reply To" address, and I really hope they change that. :)

bstpierre
Jun 26, 2008, 10:48 PM
wait a minute wait a minute you mean to tell me if I buy this mobile me I can't hook up my 2 @yahoo accounts to it?

You are already pushing your Yahoo accounts to the iPhone, right?

Right now I forward my email to gmail so I can take advantage of its web interface and imap capabilities. I will be checking out Mobile Me with an eye toward forwarding my accounts there. Gmail allows me to set the reply to field (although it says it is from my gmail account on behalf of my personal account). I would love Mobile Me to offer full domain name integration.

Locoboof
Jun 26, 2008, 11:08 PM
You are already pushing your Yahoo accounts to the iPhone, right?

Right now I forward my email to gmail so I can take advantage of its web interface and imap capabilities. I will be checking out Mobile Me with an eye toward forwarding my accounts there. Gmail allows me to set the reply to field (although it says it is from my gmail account on behalf of my personal account). I would love Mobile Me to offer full domain name integration.

they do push to my iphone but sometimes it works sometimes ill check and 3 emails came in 4 hours ago...its odd....I was just hoping with this mobile me I could assign all my email address under one roof to mobile me and it would send it instantly threw mobile me......well the good thing is all iphone users get a free 60 day trial of mobile me so I can try it and see....but if it dose work that way everything to my mobile me then mobile me sends it to my iphone instantly count me in...

grapes911
Jun 27, 2008, 07:27 AM
I've used 1&1 Internet for my MS Exchange services. It's only about $21/3 months and I've been fairly happy with it. I'm honestly thinking about just picking up MobileMe and forgetting the whole MS deal.

That's not free.

mavis
Jun 27, 2008, 08:36 AM
That's not free.
Is there such a thing as free Exchange hosting? :confused:

The way I see it, I can either pay for Exchange hosting or pay for MobileMe. Given the integration with the apps I use on my Mac, it's a no-brainer. Even if I used Windows, though - I don't know. It'd be a tough call, but MobileMe would probably still get my vote (the web apps look pretty cool, and MobileMe isn't just for syncing devices - it's a full webhosting package) ...

grapes911
Jun 27, 2008, 09:58 AM
Is there such a thing as free Exchange hosting? :confused:...Let's recap the conversation:

HSquared said, "MobileMe is so overpriced for something that you can do for free anyway."

I responded saying, "How can I freely push my email? I've tried mail2web, but is really sucks."

HSquared has yet to response, but rtmadden responded directly to me via a quote and said, "I've used 1&1 Internet for my MS Exchange services. It's only about $21/3 months and I've been fairly happy with it."

I responded saying "That's not free."


Hopefully that clears things up some.

GuillaumeB
Jun 27, 2008, 10:33 AM
And to be more precise, there simply is no free or cheaper alternative to MobileMe on the market. Push is not all, I'm talking about 20GB of storage + push contact/calendar+ all the other features.

Since you can't compare it to anything else except a professional MS Exchange server, saying MobileMe is overprice is a huge nonsense.

tritonj
Jun 27, 2008, 12:29 PM
a full blown exchange server and mobileme would not even be a comparison, exchange offers much more than mobileme but most everyday users probably don't need any of those features

mobileme is a combination of a bunch of readily available web services, all nicely put into 1 single package:

1. IMAP mail (available free)
2. Online Address Book (available free)
3. Online Calendar (available free)
4. Online Photo Gallery (available free)
5. Online storage (available free, but probably not 20GB of space)

All of those services can be had for free, what you are paying for is the convenience of having all those services under 1 application. You can get close if you use all of Google's apps but they currently don't offer online storage, although your e-mail account has plenty of storage available

MS Exchange is an e-mail server designed to be used in a corporate atmosphere, featuring public folders, delegation, global address book, shared calendars, meeting requests, etc

there is no comparison of these 2 products, only part that is even close is e-mail

so if you think the convenience of a one stop shop is worth the $99/year, then great, if you don't that is fine too, you have free alternatives out there that will get you the same service

aristobrat
Jun 27, 2008, 12:34 PM
All of those services can be had for free, what you are paying for is the convenience of having all those services under 1 application. You can get close if you use all of Google's apps but they currently don't offer online storage, although your e-mail account has plenty of storage available
They also don't do instant push email/calendar/contact updates to all of your devices, either.

MS Exchange is an e-mail server designed to be used in a corporate atmosphere, featuring public folders, delegation, global address book, shared calendars, meeting requests, etc

there is no comparison of these 2 products, only part that is even close is e-mail
The comparisons I've seen have been between a hosted individual Microsoft Exchange account and MobileMe. Hosted Exchange accounts don't usually deal with GALs and shared calendars.

tritonj
Jun 27, 2008, 12:59 PM
They also don't do instant push email/calendar/contact updates to all of your devices, either.

no system pushes changes instantly, not even exchange with a blackberry, mobileme isn't using a new protocol, so i don't see how it is going to push e-mail any faster than someone with an e-mail client setup with IMAP.


The comparisons I've seen have been between a hosted individual Microsoft Exchange account and MobileMe. Hosted Exchange accounts don't usually deal with GALs and shared calendars.

true, i was just pointing out Exchange is much more than just push e-mail, since someone had made the comparison between a "professional Exchange server" and MobileMe.

jc1350
Jun 27, 2008, 01:20 PM
IMAP is not "push" email; it's pull. IMAP client still logs in and polls the server for new messages. What IMAP does that is similar to Exchange using MAPI is the message stays on the server, and depending on the client software, there may or may not be a local copy (MS calls it "cached" in Exchange/Outlook) on your computer/phone.

Push email is the server gets the message and automatically sends the message to the client.

Exchange using MAPI is push email. Exchange using IMAP is pull email.

To the person who asked if there are any free Exchange hosting services: I doubt it due to the cost of Exchange and Windows Server.

I use Exchange at work and have a Windows Mobile 6 phone with active sync (push email). I have played with this thing many times and have found new messages arrive within a minute the PC shows it. NOTHING will ever be "instant" as there's not such thing when dealing with any kind of network. Don't let "instant" confuse you.

aristobrat
Jun 27, 2008, 01:29 PM
no system pushes changes instantly, not even exchange with a blackberry, mobileme isn't using a new protocol, so i don't see how it is going to push e-mail any faster than someone with an e-mail client setup with IMAP.
In all of the free examples of the services you've posted, you either have to change the data via a web client, or the client on your computer pulls the data at predefined intervals.

I can't think of a free IMAP service that offers push to your computer. Yahoo does push IMAP to the iPhone (but not computers), but from what I've read on the forums, it's not very reliable.

Which protocol do you think MobileMe uses to push contact and calendar updates? I don't think I've ever seen anything non-proprietorial that does that.

Have you seen the MobileMe videos? It definitely doesn't look like just push IMAP to me.

Scooterman1
Jun 27, 2008, 01:31 PM
My wife and I's Yahoo Mail pushes down right away. Works great.

aristobrat
Jun 27, 2008, 01:34 PM
I use Exchange at work and have a Windows Mobile 6 phone with active sync (push email). I have played with this thing many times and have found new messages arrive within a minute the PC shows it. NOTHING will ever be "instant" as there's not such thing when dealing with any kind of network. Don't let "instant" confuse you.
Sorry, when I said instant, I meant it more along the lines of "not having to wait for the device to do a regularly scheduled pull".

i.e. If you're on your computer and change a person in your Address Book, the change is "instantly" sent to your iPhone and other computers, meaning that the change is pushed to them, ... you don't have to wait 1,5,15,30,whatever minutes for the iPhone/other computers to "check in" and pull any new data.

tritonj
Jun 27, 2008, 01:36 PM
IMAP is not "push" email; it's pull. IMAP client still logs in and polls the server for new messages. What IMAP does that is similar to Exchange using MAPI is the message stays on the server, and depending on the client software, there may or may not be a local copy (MS calls it "cached" in Exchange/Outlook) on your computer/phone.

Push email is the server gets the message and automatically sends the message to the client.

Exchange using MAPI is push email. Exchange using IMAP is pull email.

To the person who asked if there are any free Exchange hosting services: I doubt it due to the cost of Exchange and Windows Server.

I use Exchange at work and have a Windows Mobile 6 phone with active sync (push email). I have played with this thing many times and have found new messages arrive within a minute the PC shows it. NOTHING will ever be "instant" as there's not such thing when dealing with any kind of network. Don't let "instant" confuse you.

Exchange doesn't pull with IMAP, it supports it as a way for an e-mail client to connect to it, just as it supports POP3

Outlook uses MAPI/RPC to communicate with Exchange, IMAP is not even in the picture

no one is saying IMAP is push e-mail, except maybe Apple. LOL... take at a look at their section on e-mail, "IMAP technology"

and after years of using and administering Exchange, i have to say, i love it, hosted Exchange is great for small companies that can't afford the infrastructure to support it properly, but i never quite understood the market for individuals buying hosted Exchange services for a single user, seemed like overkill, since you don't utilize any of the features that make Exchange a powerful tool

aristobrat
Jun 27, 2008, 01:44 PM
and after years of using and administering Exchange, i have to say, i love it, hosted Exchange is great for small companies that can't afford the infrastructure to support it properly, but i never quite understood the market for individuals buying hosted Exchange services for a single user, seemed like overkill, since you don't utilize any of the features that make Exchange a powerful tool
My guess is that a lot of folks don't work in environments where a GAL, shared calendars, delegated account access, and public folders really add any value to them. There are lots of one, two people shops out there.

Whereas, they couldn't live without their email and PIM updates being automatically shot between their Windows Mobile device and Outlook on their computer (plus being available in OWA).

If MobileMe allows people to select different "Reply From" addresses, it'd could be a real competitor for RIM and their BIS market.

tritonj
Jun 27, 2008, 01:49 PM
In all of the free examples of the services you've posted, you either have to change the data via a web client, or the client on your computer pulls the data at predefined intervals.

I can't think of a free IMAP service that offers push to your computer. Yahoo does push IMAP to the iPhone (but not computers), but from what I've read on the forums, it's not very reliable.

Which protocol do you think MobileMe uses to push contact and calendar updates? I don't think I've ever seen anything non-proprietorial that does that.

Have you seen the MobileMe videos? It definitely doesn't look like just push IMAP to me.

no one knows what they are using to push contacts or calendar, because i don't believe they have said yet.

as for this whole discussion between push and pull, there is no difference other than who initiates the connection. both ways the e-mail is delivered almost instantly provided you are polling the server constantly to the point where it is almost persistent. so to an end user it really isn't going to matter

tritonj
Jun 27, 2008, 01:50 PM
My guess is that a lot of folks don't work in environments where a GAL, shared calendars, delegated account access, and public folders really add any value to them. There are lots of one, two people shops out there.

Whereas, they couldn't live without their email and PIM updates being automatically shot between their Windows Mobile device and Outlook on their computer (plus being available in OWA).

If MobileMe allows people to select different "Reply From" addresses, it'd could be a real competitor for RIM and their BIS market.

by "reply from" addresses are you talking about sending on behalf of someone? or just being able enter a different address in the "from" field?

aristobrat
Jun 27, 2008, 02:01 PM
as for this whole discussion between push and pull, there is no difference other than who initiates the connection.
The other difference is in regards to battery life.

A smartphone set to pull IMAP every 15 minutes kills its battery by end of day. Set to one minute, I'd be surprised if it even makes it 1/2 the day.

For whatever reason, the same device sitting there waiting for stuff to be pushed to it ends the day with a lot more battery life. Probably because it doesn't have to do all of the sending and receiving every 1 minute just to find out that there's no new mail.

by "reply from" addresses are you talking about sending on behalf of someone? or just being able enter a different address in the "from" field?
Different address in the "From Field".

.Mac's had a feature for years where it could POP into your other email accounts and put the new mail in your .Mac account, but if you replied, the reply always came from your "@mac.com" account.

BlackBerry's BIS pushes emails from up to 10 (I think that's the max) accounts, and when you reply, it replies with the correct email address in the From line (or lets you manually select a different one).

tritonj
Jun 27, 2008, 03:10 PM
The other difference is in regards to battery life.

A smartphone set to pull IMAP every 15 minutes kills its battery by end of day. Set to one minute, I'd be surprised if it even makes it 1/2 the day.

For whatever reason, the same device sitting there waiting for stuff to be pushed to it ends the day with a lot more battery life. Probably because it doesn't have to do all of the sending and receiving every 1 minute just to find out that there's no new mail.


Different address in the "From Field".

.Mac's had a feature for years where it could POP into your other email accounts and put the new mail in your .Mac account, but if you replied, the reply always came from your "@mac.com" account.

BlackBerry's BIS pushes emails from up to 10 (I think that's the max) accounts, and when you reply, it replies with the correct email address in the From line (or lets you manually select a different one).

a BB BIS is actually handling multiple e-mail accounts, not just multiple e-mail addresses. so that is a key distinction. so the question is then will MobileMe handle and manage multiple accounts. the option of being able to enter a different e-mail in a "from" field is going to be on the e-mail client side and won't have anything to do with a server

and then on your blackberry there are actually filtered inboxes for each account that you setup with the BIS, so will the iPhone also have this type of feature with MobileMe is another question, otherwise all your mail for all your accounts gets mixed into 1 inbox

desenso
Jul 3, 2008, 07:22 AM
wait a minute wait a minute you mean to tell me if I buy this mobile me I can't hook up my 2 @yahoo accounts to it? If not then its useless to me. I have 2 email address that I check all day and if I buy mobile me I'll have a total of 3 email addresses I need to check every day all day? WTF. Or what will I have to go to every web site and forum and my banks cell company ebay paypal to change my address on each site it a new .me address mobiles gives me.......cmon I have had one of these email adds since 1997 I do want moblie me but if I cant get my current email accounts to be pushed threw mobile me I'm out.

Come on man, let's be honest. You don't need push.

stevehp
Jul 3, 2008, 07:30 AM
MobileMe is actually kind of cheap considering most blackberry plans cost at least $35 extra a month for exchange, etc...

Penguinwrangler
Jul 3, 2008, 08:09 AM
I watched the MobileMe video and read up on the site, but couldn't find any information on syncing other, additional accounts. Does anyone have any idea or has Apple given any indication of if and how they will implement this?

jonnyb
Jul 3, 2008, 08:18 AM
I watched the MobileMe video and read up on the site, but couldn't find any information on syncing other, additional accounts. Does anyone have any idea or has Apple given any indication of if and how they will implement this?

You can't sync other email accounts with MobileMe. You could forward your other accounts to your me.com address but that's not the same thing. There's a big debate about it on Apple's discussion forums here:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1552370&tstart=0

slicecom
Jul 3, 2008, 08:19 AM
Ok, so I can push my email with Gmail or Yahoo for free, but can I sync my contacts between my PC (Outlook), iPhone and Mac (Address Book)? Or is that only possible with MobileMe?

Scooterman1
Jul 3, 2008, 08:26 AM
wait a minute wait a minute you mean to tell me if I buy this mobile me I can't hook up my 2 @yahoo accounts to it? If not then its useless to me. I have 2 email address that I check all day and if I buy mobile me I'll have a total of 3 email addresses I need to check every day all day? WTF. Or what will I have to go to every web site and forum and my banks cell company ebay paypal to change my address on each site it a new .me address mobiles gives me.......cmon I have had one of these email adds since 1997 I do want moblie me but if I cant get my current email accounts to be pushed threw mobile me I'm out.

Don't you realize that if you set your iPhone for the Yahoo Mail using the built-in set up on the iPhone, your Yahoo mail is automatically pushed to your iPhone. Yahoo mail recognizes the iPhone and pushes the mail to it!

citron230
Jul 3, 2008, 09:11 AM
for the people that complain about the $$..you can just as easy find it cheaper online.
then again..people would complain about the service even if it was $5.

exactly. I think MobileMe is going to be well worth the $99 a year. It is the same amount I shelled out for .Mac and MobileMe will provide so much more. Well worth it.