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Joshh1
Jun 26, 2008, 10:27 PM
Hey guys, I just recently acquired a G4 power mac Gigabit Ethernet. (Dual 450's I believe isn't here yet. :p)
I actually don't know the specs of it at all, a friend of mine grabbed it for me.


I'm just going to use it for regular computing, but do you guys have any suggestions on upgrades? I'm thinking a new hdd for media storage, 2 X 512 mb sticks of ram and a new video card (Preferably $120 or less) but something that supports dual monitors. (I know the stock Ati Rage doesn't support them so.) and then of course a USB 2.0 PCI card.
I don't have the money to upgrade the processor, so that's out of the question. I'd also like to get a superdrive or just a dvd-rw.

Thank you guys in advance. :)

-Josh.



velocityg4
Jun 27, 2008, 12:24 PM
Video card: I would say a Radeon 8500 from eBay they are pretty cheap and a good match for the processors. If you want core image you will need to get a Radeon 9200 or better or a GeForce 5200 or better. If you are more adventurous and want the best bang for your buck flash a dirt cheap used PC video card but make sure you choose carefully and follow the guides precisely.
http://themacelite.wikidot.com/start

RAM: Buy used as well, SDRAM in general is fairly expensive but some money can be saved this way. PC100

HD: The max is 128GB unless you get an SATA or ATA add-on card.

DVD: Most IDE burners work great even lightscribe works if you download the free Mac driver. You should be able to get one for $25-30 off of newegg.

OMFG HAXX!
Jun 27, 2008, 12:46 PM
Definitely go for a gig of memory,and, as velocityg4 said, pick up a DVD-RW drive off of Newegg. If you have the money, get a SATA PCI card and pick up a 2550GB SATA drive (only like $55 at this point).

Joshh1
Jun 27, 2008, 01:28 PM
Thanks guys.
Now will the ATI radeon 9200 from OWC work well?

Now to see how much money I have and how much I can spend. :rolleyes:

Edit: Also, any IDE optical drive will work? Basically just plug and play?

Lord Zedd
Jun 27, 2008, 01:44 PM
Edit: Also, any IDE optical drive will work? Basically just plug and play?

Yes.

Joshh1
Jun 27, 2008, 04:02 PM
Alright, thanks Zedd.

disconap
Jun 28, 2008, 04:07 AM
NOTE--PC133 RAM will also work in that machine. Check RAMseeker, older Mac RAM has dropped in price quite a bit in the past few months...

velocityg4
Jun 28, 2008, 10:32 AM
NOTE--PC133 RAM will also work in that machine. Check RAMseeker, older Mac RAM has dropped in price quite a bit in the past few months...
However now a days you have to be careful. As some are no longer backwards compatible. I think there was a problem with this with Kingston memory.

edit:
Now will the ATI radeon 9200 from OWC work well? Wow that price is high:eek:
For that you could get a Radeon 9800 off of this guy (http://cgi.ebay.com/Mac-ATI-Radeon-9800-128mb-Video-Card-G4-G5-AGP_W0QQitemZ250264394652QQihZ015QQcategoryZ25449QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) on ebay. He has a great rating and his sales history lists a few cards like this one. It is probably flashed but that really does not matter.

Or save buying a 9200 on ebay they go for $75-85. Here (http://cgi.ebay.com/Mac-ATi-Radeon-9200-128Mb-Video-Card-2x-4x-AGP-G4-G5_W0QQitemZ250262213998QQihZ015QQcategoryZ25449QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) is one from the same guy.

Note on all of his cards he charge $20 shipping.

Joshh1
Jun 28, 2008, 04:17 PM
Alright Thanks. :)


I was gonna say the OWC one seems a bit much, I'd rather buy from a store. but I'd also rather save $30. :p

Edit: Also, was just wondering. Say I end up with a PCI graphics card. Would it be best to use the ATI rage for one monitor and the PCI for the 2nd? Or will this not work?

(Sorry i'm a total noob to dual monitors. hahaha)

xraydoc
Jun 28, 2008, 11:28 PM
Really, don't bother with a PCI graphics card! Quartz Extreme does not work over the PCI bus without a hack (not sure the hack even works in 10.5) and regardless it'll still be pretty darn slow - not to mention that it'll nearly saturate the PCI bus, leaving a USB 2.0 card starved for bandwidth if/when it needs it.

Find a cheap flashed Radeon 9700/9800 on eBay and pop it in. It'll run two displays (two VGA or one DVI, one VGA). It'll be way, way better than running a main display off the PCI bus.

FWIW, I have a (flashed) Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB in a Gigabit Ethernet PowerMac and it works just perfectly.

TheReef
Jun 29, 2008, 01:56 AM
^ I agree a Radeon 9800 would be a good choice.
You can install another hard drive in the bay below the optical drive (at least on the models with Zip drives).

ben.mcmahan
Jun 29, 2008, 02:16 AM
PC133 RAM will work fine...backwards compatible and all.

disconap
Jun 29, 2008, 09:48 AM
Velocity has a point though--there is plenty of PC100 and PC133 RAM that won't work in Macs. That's why I suggested RAMSeeker, you can search by model for compatible RAM with solid return policies...

But yeah, PC133 RAM works just fine, it just operates at 100mHz.

Joshh1
Jun 29, 2008, 10:02 AM
Thank you guys. Looks like I'll just eBay a card then.

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