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andyx181x
Jun 28, 2008, 03:40 AM
hello there folks, got a curiosity here. I recently was going threw some old programs for my old mac back on the good old Mac OS 9.2 days, and i found a file folder containing special sounds from a popular video games Metal Gear Solid 2. Back then these sounds could be used to replace certain action sounds for the OS or for AIM messenger. now as i try and use it OS X 10.4.11 i really have no options on what to do with them. it plays the sound in the info window but i don't know what program will actually open it. i'm hoping to convert them to a different type of audio file and use it for the sounds in the system preferences, or better yet use it garageband to make ring tones for the iphone. as mentioned before it says its a Unix base file, if anyone is interested i can email you a file (ridiculously small barley even a 1000 KB at most), and miind tinkering with it
junior
Jun 28, 2008, 04:36 AM
hello there folks, got a curiosity here. I recently was going threw some old programs for my old mac back on the good old Mac OS 9.2 days, and i found a file folder containing special sounds from a popular video games Metal Gear Solid 2. Back then these sounds could be used to replace certain action sounds for the OS or for AIM messenger. now as i try and use it OS X 10.4.11 i really have no options on what to do with them. it plays the sound in the info window but i don't know what program will actually open it. i'm hoping to convert them to a different type of audio file and use it for the sounds in the system preferences, or better yet use it garageband to make ring tones for the iphone. as mentioned before it says its a Unix base file, if anyone is interested i can email you a file (ridiculously small barley even a 1000 KB at most), and miind tinkering with it
If it plays in the info window, it means quicktime will recognize it. So you could re-encode the files in quicktime pro.
I'd also imagine that if quicktime recognizes the files, then iTunes will seeing as it runs off the quicktime engine.
andyx181x
Jun 28, 2008, 12:11 PM
that sounds like my only option, is there any other programs that might be able to convert these files? i'm just saying cause i would have to obviously pay for the upgrade to quicktime pro. garageband didn't work either for these files
junior
Jun 28, 2008, 03:01 PM
It'll help if you provide us with the file extension.
andyx181x
Jun 28, 2008, 04:23 PM
It'll help if you provide us with the file extension.
sorry its been a while since i heard file extension, please tell me where i get that info
junior
Jun 28, 2008, 06:08 PM
sorry its been a while since i heard file extension, please tell me where i get that info
You know the way an mpeg 4 audio file will have .m4a at the end of it, or a wave file WAV, etc.
Does it have a .*** next to its name? Or when you open up the info box, do you see the full name under 'Name and Extension'?
In the meantime try one of these and tell us how it goes:
Max (http://sbooth.org/Max/)
Switch (http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html)
andyx181x
Jun 28, 2008, 07:43 PM
You know the way an mpeg 4 audio file will have .m4a at the end of it, or a wave file WAV, etc.
Does it have a .*** next to its name? Or when you open up the info box, do you see the full name under 'Name and Extension'?
In the meantime try one of these and tell us how it goes:
Max (http://sbooth.org/Max/)
Switch (http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html)
there are no file extensions names what so ever for the files, not even under the info, they are stand alone files with the name of the sound it produces
mkrishnan
Jun 28, 2008, 07:52 PM
They're called Unix base files because OS X automatically calls anything that has no extension and does not identify its file type that. If they're sound files from OS 9, they probably are AIFF files. I think Max (linked above) or Audacity or something like that should convert them.
andyx181x
Jun 29, 2008, 05:19 PM
all three of the programs didn't work, max wouldn't even accept them for opening, switch couldn't convert them cause it doesn't understand whats their format, and audacity keeps crashing when i try to open them
mkrishnan
Jun 29, 2008, 05:23 PM
See what happens if you rename one so that the name ends in .aiff .... Or else post one or more of the files so we can check them out.
andyx181x
Jun 30, 2008, 09:06 PM
See what happens if you rename one so that the name ends in .aiff .... Or else post one or more of the files so we can check them out.
how do i post files on a forum?
junior
Jul 1, 2008, 03:55 AM
how do i post files on a forum?
Upload it to something like yousendit and provide the link.
MacUser2525
Jul 1, 2008, 12:10 PM
Try using file /path/to/audio_file and see what it says about it, it should have some idea of what type/format it is.
andyx181x
Jul 1, 2008, 08:33 PM
Upload it to something like yousendit and provide the link.
i think it be better if i just email it one of you, its a really small file
andyx181x
Jul 3, 2008, 02:07 AM
Try using file /path/to/audio_file and see what it says about it, it should have some idea of what type/format it is.
how do i do that? lol
MacUser2525
Jul 3, 2008, 02:29 AM
how do i do that? lol
You go to your Applications folder then Utilities folder click on the Terminal application once opened you type in the command and the path to the file you want the information on, it will show similar to the below.
:~ MacUser2525$ file /Volumes/music/ogg/38_special/bone_against_steel-1991/38_Special-Bone_Against_Steel-01-The_Sound_Of_Your_Voice.ogg
/Volumes/music/ogg/38_special/bone_against_steel-1991/38_Special-Bone_Against_Steel-01-The_Sound_Of_Your_Voice.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~112001 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I (1.0.1)
andyx181x
Jul 3, 2008, 09:21 AM
You go to your Applications folder then Utilities folder click on the Terminal application once opened you type in the command and the path to the file you want the information on, it will show similar to the below.
:~ MacUser2525$ file /Volumes/music/ogg/38_special/bone_against_steel-1991/38_Special-Bone_Against_Steel-01-The_Sound_Of_Your_Voice.ogg
/Volumes/music/ogg/38_special/bone_against_steel-1991/38_Special-Bone_Against_Steel-01-The_Sound_Of_Your_Voice.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~112001 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I (1.0.1)
let me know if i'm doing something wrong, i went ahead and took one of the files out of its folders and simpy placed in the music volume and i been typing it like this:
file/Volumes/music/aiff/ItemUsed
i put the aiff at the end of it to help better find it but it still claims the file doesn't exist, does it have anything to do that i originally set it to open under garageband?
junior
Jul 3, 2008, 06:59 PM
let me know if i'm doing something wrong, i went ahead and took one of the files out of its folders and simpy placed in the music volume and i been typing it like this:
file/Volumes/music/aiff/ItemUsed
i put the aiff at the end of it to help better find it but it still claims the file doesn't exist, does it have anything to do that i originally set it to open under garageband?
Just upload the frickin' file onto yousendit!
Cromulent
Jul 3, 2008, 07:21 PM
let me know if i'm doing something wrong, i went ahead and took one of the files out of its folders and simpy placed in the music volume and i been typing it like this:
file/Volumes/music/aiff/ItemUsed
i put the aiff at the end of it to help better find it but it still claims the file doesn't exist, does it have anything to do that i originally set it to open under garageband?
You need a space after file and before /Volumes
Oh, and make sure it is the correct path on your computer, not the one shown above.
andyx181x
Jul 3, 2008, 07:27 PM
Just upload the frickin' file onto yousendit!
you going to give me money to start an account?
TuffLuffJimmy
Jul 3, 2008, 07:32 PM
click get info on the file. Then in the name add .aiff to the end of the file. Then open it in quicktime, iTunes, or just about anything.
junior
Jul 4, 2008, 01:13 PM
you going to give me money to start an account?
Type this in Google:
free file upload
There will be a gazillion number of free services available.
Are you going to pay us for the help being provided?:rolleyes:
andyx181x
Jul 6, 2008, 01:39 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/?vllejjeajjj
alrighty try that out, its in a zip format so all the original sounds are in there
scottlinux
Jul 6, 2008, 05:15 PM
Some formats may only be 'read' by middleware such as CRI or Wwise that are used to develop the game audio. You would need developer SDK, also which is not available unless you are working on the game. :)
Doing a
'file filename'
does not do any good. One of the files is named 'exit.'
$ file exit
gives this output:
$ exit: empty
All files range from 40KB to 704KB, so probably little sound effects.
[And btw the file you sent is not in a zip, but rather stuff-it. There is no need for stuff it anymore, as compression is built into OS X 10.4 and up.
Just right click on the file and add to archive/compress , etc.]
junior
Jul 6, 2008, 07:59 PM
Okay, figured it out!
Well, it's not as simple a process as pressing a convert button on an app, seeing as nobody knows what file format it is, but there is a way nonetheless.
Toast recognizes these files as audio (Mine's toast9 but I'm sure previous versions will be fine). So select the audio CD option, drag the files in there, choose 'save as disk image' and save it onto your desktop or whatever.
Then go to the file that was created, right click and choose 'mount'.
You'll now have an audio CD image mounted, so go to itunes and import these files in a format of your choice.
Done!
andyx181x
Jul 6, 2008, 11:02 PM
Okay, figured it out!
Well, it's not as simple a process as pressing a convert button on an app, seeing as nobody knows what file format it is, but there is a way nonetheless.
Toast recognizes these files as audio (Mine's toast9 but I'm sure previous versions will be fine). So select the audio CD option, drag the files in there, choose 'save as disk image' and save it onto your desktop or whatever.
Then go to the file that was created, right click and choose 'mount'.
You'll now have an audio CD image mounted, so go to itunes and import these files in a format of your choice.
Done!
junior my friend you are a genius! i thought i never get to use these sound files again for my computer, i've had them since 2001 and man i'm happy. thanks a lot for your determination and wanting to help, hope your a some what fan of the game and enjoy the sounds
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