View Full Version : McCain Being Heckled on Impeachment Right Now!
stevento
Jul 7, 2008, 02:26 PM
I'm watching CNN Live of John McCain's town hall and somebody basically asked him "Why did you support the impeachment of Bill Clinton but you dont support the impeachment of Bush?"
McCain said "I don't think impeachment in necessary or called for" and moved on to the next questions but the guy popped up again and yelled about it. Then McCain ended the town hall!
cant wait to post it!
themadchemist
Jul 7, 2008, 02:35 PM
Very nice! Hopefully he gets more of that, continues to be disrupted, and looks like a fool who can't take the heat without being thrown off.
Badandy
Jul 7, 2008, 02:39 PM
Of course then you have to ask why everyone in your own party isn't calling for his impeachment.
Oh, it's not just McCain who doesn't support it, is it?
zioxide
Jul 7, 2008, 02:39 PM
Obviously he supported Clinton's impeachment but not Bush's because getting a blow job is way worse than being responsible for the deaths of over 4,000 Americans and over half a million Iraqis.
it5five
Jul 7, 2008, 02:41 PM
Whoever is usually in charge of filling these types of events with Republicans for the McCain campaign is now out of a job.
Prof.
Jul 7, 2008, 02:43 PM
Obviously he supported Clinton's impeachment but not Bush's because getting a blow job is way worse than being responsible for the deaths of over 4,000 Americans and over half a million Iraqis.
Well said, my friend.
McCain is just a mini Bush. If he gets elected it's going to be another four (possibly eight) years of Bush policies.
mactastic
Jul 7, 2008, 02:55 PM
For all his vaunted "straight talk", McCain doesn't handle being pushed off-topic very well.
Thomas Veil
Jul 7, 2008, 03:00 PM
Helluva good question. Though I'm sure I'll enjoy the clip, it's too bad somebody didn't surprise him with this during a primetime nationwide televised debate. :D
Much Ado
Jul 7, 2008, 03:04 PM
How long before he cracks and we really see that temper he's supposed to have?
themadchemist
Jul 7, 2008, 03:43 PM
For all his vaunted "straight talk", McCain doesn't handle being pushed off-topic very well.
Well, that's where "straight" comes in. It's straight from the talking points--no deviations.
obeygiant
Jul 7, 2008, 03:56 PM
Obviously he supported Clinton's impeachment but not Bush's because getting a blow job is way worse than being responsible for the deaths of over 4,000 Americans and over half a million Iraqis.
Clinton was impeached for getting a BJ in the oval office?
Prof.
Jul 7, 2008, 03:58 PM
How long before he cracks and we really see that temper he's supposed to have?
My dad was with McCain on the campaign trail a few month back. He said he has a nasty temper.
Badandy
Jul 7, 2008, 04:00 PM
Clinton was impeached for getting a BJ in the oval office?
I know that you were being facetious, but I think it's a little bit ridiculous that people always say that...
Prof: I've heard the same. And apparently it's not just restricted to his off hours, he actually goes nuts in meetings and stuff.
themadchemist
Jul 7, 2008, 06:07 PM
Prof: I've heard the same. And apparently it's not just restricted to his off hours, he actually goes nuts in meetings and stuff.
Hmm...That's really what I want in a President. :rolleyes:
obeygiant
Jul 7, 2008, 06:25 PM
Hmm...That's really what I want in a President. :rolleyes:
Don't worry. He won't win.
Rodimus Prime
Jul 7, 2008, 07:19 PM
well I would say the guy doing the heckling is an ass and it wasted would could of been good town hall meeting for finding out some more real things instead of the political crap. We all know the reason he supported the impeachment of Clinton and not Bush and that is pure and simple politcs. if some one thinks Obama is above such a level I have the idiot of the year award for them.
It speaks very poorly of the democrates who choose to sink to such a low level.
leekohler
Jul 7, 2008, 07:25 PM
well I would say the guy doing the heckling is an ass and it wasted would could of been good town hall meeting for finding out some more real things instead of the political crap. We all know the reason he supported the impeachment of Clinton and not Bush and that is pure and simple politcs. if some one thinks Obama is above such a level I have the idiot of the year award for them.
It speaks very poorly of the democrates who choose to sink to such a low level.
I think it's a perfectly legit question. I would ask Obama a similar question.
Rodimus Prime
Jul 7, 2008, 07:27 PM
I think it's a perfectly legit question. I would ask Obama a similar question.
the question was legit. It was more his action afterwards I have a problem with.
Jumping up and down and yelling about it. that is the problem and that was the part I was speaking down on.
leekohler
Jul 7, 2008, 07:37 PM
the question was legit. It was more his action afterwards I have a problem with.
Jumping up and down and yelling about it. that is the problem and that was the part I was speaking down on.
I think a lot of people are getting sick of not getting satisfactory answers from our politicians, whoever they may be. They work for us after all and make a hefty sum. We have every right to get answers when we ask questions.
Rodimus Prime
Jul 7, 2008, 07:41 PM
I think a lot of people are getting sick of not getting satisfactory answers from our politicians, whoever they may be. They work for us after all and make a hefty sum. We have every right to get answers when we ask questions.
Yeah people are but like I have said before Politician are the scum of the earth corrections they are so low they make scum look good. They are less than human.
I think very poorly of them. it is so sad that this year is election is voting for Crappy canidate 1 or crappy canidate number 2.
I wish I could say it was voting for lesser of 2 evils but it is so bad I do not want to vote for either one of them I think they are so poor.
leekohler
Jul 7, 2008, 07:43 PM
Yeah people are but like I have said before Politician are the scum of the earth corrections they are so low they make scum look good. They are less than human.
I think very poorly of them. it is so sad that this year is election is voting for Crappy canidate 1 or crappy canidate number 2.
I wish I could say it was voting for lesser of 2 evils but it is so bad I do not want to vote for either one of them I think they are so poor.
I'm beginning to agree with you. :(
Prof.
Jul 7, 2008, 07:46 PM
Don't worry. He won't win.
For the sake and economic future of The United States, I hope to God you are right.
Rodimus Prime
Jul 7, 2008, 07:47 PM
I'm beginning to agree with you. :(
sad day isnt it. I have seen people from all sides call this canidates crap and either do not want to vote or are going to vote 3rd party.
I expect to see record 3rd party votes this year. That and a very poor voter turn out after such great numbers during the primaries.
Of course then you have to ask why everyone in your own party isn't calling for his impeachment.
Oh, it's not just McCain who doesn't support it, is it?
McCain is running for president, though.
Cleverboy
Jul 8, 2008, 06:18 AM
sad day isnt it. I have seen people from all sides call this canidates crap and either do not want to vote or are going to vote 3rd party. I expect to see record 3rd party votes this year. That and a very poor voter turn out after such great numbers during the primaries.
I have more faith that people won't vote STUPID, despite momentary disappointments. I've been let down before (2000 and 2004), and voted 3rd party during Clinton's 2nd term, but I think I've been taught the sad consequences of thinking too small. If we existed in some mythical world where NO ONE won if enough people didn't vote, that'd be great. We don't. At this point, if you equally don't care if McCain or Obama wins, feel free not to vote or to vote 3rd party. Other than that, if you dislike one candidate more than the other (you think their policies more problematic, their intentions more fragmented), you know what you need to do. The chance to get someone else into the two main slots has already past.
~ CB
Rodimus Prime
Jul 8, 2008, 06:46 AM
I have more faith that people won't vote STUPID, despite momentary disappointments. I've been let down before (2000 and 2004), and voted 3rd party during Clinton's 2nd term, but I think I've been taught the sad consequences of thinking too small. If we existed in some mythical world where NO ONE won if enough people didn't vote, that'd be great. We don't. At this point, if you equally don't care if McCain or Obama wins, feel free not to vote or to vote 3rd party. Other than that, if you dislike one candidate more than the other (you think their policies more problematic, their intentions more fragmented), you know what you need to do. The chance to get someone else into the two main slots has already past.
~ CB
It is not voting stupid to vote for some one you now who will not win. By your argument in my state voting for any one but McCain is stupid. By voting 3rd party I can proudly say I did not vote for the piss poor candidate we will get in office and still say I voted.
Cleverboy
Jul 8, 2008, 06:56 AM
It is not voting stupid to vote for some one you now who will not win. By your argument in my state voting for any one but McCain is stupid. By voting 3rd party I can proudly say I did not vote for the piss poor candidate we will get in office and still say I voted. Check what I said. If you DON'T CARE whether McCain OR Obama gets into office, then its not stupid... you've decided that you're interests are served better by voting symbolically. I can understand that.
Just don't cry later if McCain helps the country slide further into irrelevance as a world power or get angry if you feel he's more prone to inaction than you ever realized... and that... now that you think about it, you did prefer Obama. Or, don't cry foul, if in your heart, you favored McCain, yet you felt annoyed enough with his stand on immigration, that you didn't go to the polls, and Obama won and helped prevent the Supreme Court from moving entirely to the right (as the most liberal judges retire during his term), which would have been EXCELLENT in your book.
If you have a preference defined by what you DON'T want from the other candidate, its as compelling as what you DO want. Anything else is STUPID, and smacks of short-sightedness. I'm entirely correct on this point, and anyone who wants to mince words is fooling themselves. At some point, I think I'll construct a list of "unintended consequences", if I can somewhat accurately project enough of them, for both candidates.
~ CB
it5five
Jul 8, 2008, 09:20 AM
I'm entirely correct on this point, and anyone who wants to mince words is fooling themselves.
So, if I vote third party, I'm a fool? Even though I prefer Obama over McCain? But what if I live in Arizona (which I do), a state McCain is guaranteed to take? My vote for Obama would be just as useless as a vote for a third party candidate. So why should I not vote for somebody whom I agree with more than Obama (who's taken a hard turn to the right recently). It'd be more stupid to compromise my values to vote for somebody whom I half-heartedly support than to vote for somebody who I find myself agreeing with more, knowing full well that McCain will win his home state, taking all of the electoral votes with him.
If we decided upon popular vote, I would vote for Obama, no question. But When Obama has the same chance to win Arizona as any third party candidate (zero chance), I might as well vote for whoever I'd like and show some support to a third party.
imac/cheese
Jul 8, 2008, 02:53 PM
I think everyone should choose the candidate they prefer most and vote for that person, no matter what chance that person has to win. It seems like so many people feel it is more important to vote for someone who has a "chance" to win than for someone who they think would best serve the country. If more people in our country voted for the person they actually thought would do the best job as president, we could be liberated from having to choose between the lesser of two evils.
People have argued in the past that voting third party is throwing away your vote, but that is not really true. There has never been a time in a major election where a single vote has decided the outcome. Our individual votes are a statement of our support and we should look carefuly at what it is we are supporting before we simply vote for the lesser of two evils.
mactastic
Jul 8, 2008, 03:04 PM
The best part is hearing Lindsay Graham and Joe Lieberman carry on and on about the strong moral character of John McCain. Those two were some of the most vocal about their views of Bill Clinton's character due to his fillandering ways -- yet neither seem all that concerned about McCain's adulterous affairs.
I can only imagine the noise coming from the right wing if Barack Obama had cheated on his first wife, and married his rich and younger mistress; and then said mistress had been shown to be stealing funds from her charity to fund her pill-popping habit. We'd all be treated to a spectacle of denouncement of character from the very people who are now silent on the same matter.
And one wonders why theliberalmedia is letting all this slide. You'd think that as liberal as they are, it would be all over the news that McCain called his wife a **** and referred to Vietnamese people as *****.
All it took was a whiff of a rumor that Michelle Obama might possibly have called white people "whitey" at one point, and the media was salivating over their chances of getting their hands on the evidence. Yet McCain utters a racial slur and not a peep. So liberal, this media...
atszyman
Jul 8, 2008, 03:09 PM
The best part is hearing Lindsay Graham and Joe Lieberman carry on and on about the strong moral character of John McCain. Those two were some of the most vocal about their views of Bill Clinton's character due to his fillandering ways -- yet neither seem all that concerned about McCain's adulterous affairs.
I can only imagine the noise coming from the right wing if Barack Obama had cheated on his first wife, and married his rich and younger mistress; and then said mistress had been shown to be stealing funds from her charity to fund her pill-popping habit. We'd all be treated to a spectacle of denouncement of character from the very people who are now silent on the same matter.
And one wonders why theliberalmedia is letting all this slide. You'd think that as liberal as they are, it would be all over the news that McCain called his wife a **** and referred to Vietnamese people as *****.
All it took was a whiff of a rumor that Michelle Obama might possibly have called white people "whitey" at one point, and the media was salivating over their chances of getting their hands on the evidence. Yet McCain utters a racial slur and not a peep. So liberal, this media...
You've just become an unconfirmed source that Obama has a rich, younger mistress, and it thinking about leaving his wife for her...:rolleyes:
imac/cheese
Jul 8, 2008, 03:14 PM
The best part is hearing Lindsay Graham and Joe Lieberman carry on and on about the strong moral character of John McCain. Those two were some of the most vocal about their views of Bill Clinton's character due to his fillandering ways -- yet neither seem all that concerned about McCain's adulterous affairs.
I can only imagine the noise coming from the right wing if Barack Obama had cheated on his first wife, and married his rich and younger mistress; and then said mistress had been shown to be stealing funds from her charity to fund her pill-popping habit. We'd all be treated to a spectacle of denouncement of character from the very people who are now silent on the same matter....
I have often wondered why the religious right is keeping so quiet about his adulterous past. I know that they are not in love with McCain but the support is really still quite strong for him.
XnavxeMiyyep
Jul 8, 2008, 04:40 PM
So, if I vote third party, I'm a fool? Even though I prefer Obama over McCain? But what if I live in Arizona (which I do), a state McCain is guaranteed to take? My vote for Obama would be just as useless as a vote for a third party candidate. So why should I not vote for somebody whom I agree with more than Obama (who's taken a hard turn to the right recently). It'd be more stupid to compromise my values to vote for somebody whom I half-heartedly support than to vote for somebody who I find myself agreeing with more, knowing full well that McCain will win his home state, taking all of the electoral votes with him.
If we decided upon popular vote, I would vote for Obama, no question. But When Obama has the same chance to win Arizona as any third party candidate (zero chance), I might as well vote for whoever I'd like and show some support to a third party.
I agree. If there was a popular vote, or if I lived in a swing state, I'd vote strategically for Obama. However, since I live in MA, where Obama is guaranteed a victory, I will vote for Mike Gravel.
Cleverboy
Jul 8, 2008, 05:19 PM
So, if I vote third party, I'm a fool?
Hopefully you're being facetious. I think there are conditions under which one would be foolish to do that, but expressed as such... no, not at all. Also, I said "voting STUPID". Fools are fools. Even smart people can "vote stupid", which is to say, to vote against their interests. The only example I gave for this label, was if you prefer Obama's policy over McCain's on the important issues... and either refused to vote or voted 3rd party in a contested race (or, as could happen, in a race you didn't realize was contested).
If we decided upon popular vote, I would vote for Obama, no question.
Careful what you wish for.
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1105566
Calling it “critically important” to eliminate the Electoral College system, former Bay State Gov. Michael Dukakis called on lawmakers to join a growing number of states supporting a switch to a national popular vote to elect the president.
“I think it is high time we got rid of the Electoral College and elected our presidents the way we elect every other elected official in the country - by a vote of the people,” Dukakis wrote in a letter e-mailed to state lawmakers yesterday. “The overwhelming majority of the American people do, too.”
So far, Maryland, New Jersey, Illinois and Hawaii have supported electing the president through a national popular vote. A bill to add Massachusetts to that list is pending on Beacon Hill.
When Obama has the same chance to win Arizona as any third party candidate (zero chance), I might as well vote for whoever I'd like and show some support to a third party. Makes sense. Most people who "protest vote" aren't using that kind of logic however. JMO.
~ CB
Dont Hurt Me
Jul 8, 2008, 05:35 PM
the question was legit. It was more his action afterwards I have a problem with.
Jumping up and down and yelling about it. that is the problem and that was the part I was speaking down on.
Bush Republicans dont like facts, they are more accustomed to spin and lie. No wonder he blew a fuse.
Lets see whats more important for our country, someones bj or a trillion dollar war with no end in sight? Yep McCain is a Republican and Bush is in desperate need. If only he was getting what Bill was getting we wouldnt be in this mess of his making.
it5five
Jul 8, 2008, 05:50 PM
Hopefully you're being facetious. I think there are conditions under which one would be foolish to do that, but expressed as such... no, not at all. Also, I said "voting STUPID". Fools are fools. Even smart people can "vote stupid", which is to say, to vote against their interests. The only example I gave for this label, was if you prefer Obama's policy over McCain's on the important issues... and either refused to vote or voted 3rd party in a contested race (or, as could happen, in a race you didn't realize was contested).
Careful what you wish for.
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1105566
~ CB
Makes sense. It seems I had just misunderstood you.
I have often wondered why the religious right is keeping so quiet about his adulterous past. I know that they are not in love with McCain but the support is really still quite strong for him.
What is hopeful, Christians are flocking to Obama in droves, even some from the right. I listened to several interviews with them, and they have finally recognized that living in the republican's version of America, is worse than having a candidate who adheres to the exact christian values as they do.
Don't panic
Jul 8, 2008, 06:49 PM
sad day isnt it. I have seen people from all sides call this canidates crap and either do not want to vote or are going to vote 3rd party.
I expect to see record 3rd party votes this year. That and a very poor voter turn out after such great numbers during the primaries.
both candidates are vastly superior to their respective party's candidate in the last elections.
in recent history probably the best candidate was Gore (Clinton was good too) form the Dems, and i guess we have to go back to Ike to find a decent republican candidate.
Cleverboy
Jul 8, 2008, 07:47 PM
Prof: I've heard the same. And apparently it's not just restricted to his off hours, he actually goes nuts in meetings and stuff.When he calls us all "my friends", I feel so comforted though. Personally, I like the story about the fist fight on the Senate floor.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_camp_lashes_out_at_reports_0408.html
McCain repeatedly addressed two new members, congressmen Trent Franks and Rick Renzi, as 'boy.' Finally, Renzi, a former college linebacker, rose from his chair and said to McCain, "You call me that one more time and I'll kick your old ass." McCain lunged at Renzi, punches were thrown, and the two had to be physically separated.
~ CB
themadchemist
Jul 8, 2008, 11:13 PM
When he calls us all "my friends", I feel so comforted though. Personally, I like the story about the fist fight on the Senate floor.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_camp_lashes_out_at_reports_0408.html
~ CB
I like the photo to the cover that book. McCain looks like a white-haired pig man lovingly hugging the farmer (Bush).
Rodimus Prime
Jul 9, 2008, 06:50 AM
Bush Republicans dont like facts, they are more accustomed to spin and lie. No wonder he blew a fuse.
Lets see whats more important for our country, someones bj or a trillion dollar war with no end in sight? Yep McCain is a Republican and Bush is in desperate need. If only he was getting what Bill was getting we wouldnt be in this mess of his making.
so if I have this straight you support acting like a big baby when you don't get your way.....
solvs
Jul 10, 2008, 01:48 PM
I know that they are not in love with McCain but the support is really still quite strong for him.
Not really. Less than it was for Bush. Obama actually has more of their support than Gore and Kerry combined.
Bush was also heckled recently, but when you support the policies they do, what do you expect:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/04/bush-heckled-during-july-4-speech/
http://www.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/article/100_plus_give_a_lesson_in_free_speech/24426/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/04/bush-to-spend-part-of-4th_n_110850.html
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