MobileMe Launching on July 9th Between 6pm-12am PT

[MacRumors]

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Apple has announced the launch date and time for their MobileMe (http://www.apple.com/mobileme) service. The revamped .Mac service will offer web-based email, calendar, addressbook, photo gallery and storage capabilities as well as "Push" sync services. Apple announced MobileMe at this year's Worldwide Developers Conference in early June.

According to their service status update in .Mac, they detail that MobileMe will launch on the evening of July 9th:MobileMe Launch
7/9/2008, 6pm-12am PT

As part of the MobileMe launch, www.mac.com will be taken offline at 6pm PT on Wednesday, July 9th.

Members will be unable to access www.mac.com or any .Mac services during this time with the exception of .Mac Mail accessed via a desktop application, iPhone, or iPod touch.

MobileMe will be available as soon as possible during this maintenance window.The timing comes as little surprise as Apple must deploy MobileMe before 5am Pacific July 10th in order to accommodate the first iPhone customers in New Zealand. We also expect iTunes 7.7 to be released before this time as it is required for the iPhone 3G.


Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/07/mobileme-launching-on-july-9th-between-6pm-12am-pt/)

[amusiccale]

Glad to see things falling into place.

[beatledud]

what a late announcement, we gonna hear more about the iphone at 4 am tomorrow?

[naroola]

Arn, you are quick! I just submitted this story to you about 1 minute ago. :)

[gcmexico]

nice can't wait for this...this setup up is going to be sweet!

[mattbray]

I already have my aliases set up and I've told everyone that I will have a new email address by the end of the week (I'm going to use mobileMe as my primary as opposed to Gmail. I love Gmail but push email is enough to lure me away). A few times today I looked at my iPhone and thought, "Damn I wish I had push email... and contacts and calendars... How about ONE easy to use web interface? That would be freaking amazing..."

I think Apple will see a huge surge in the number of people purchasing mobileMe subscriptions. If you have an iPhone it's probably the best $99 you'll ever spend.

[That70sGAdawg]

This was on my .Mac home page tonight:

MobileMe Launch
7/9/2008, 6pm-12am PT

As part of the MobileMe launch, www.mac.com will be taken offline at 6pm PT on Wednesday, July 9th.

We are close to PUSH mail!

[Brundlefly]

Iphone outrageous price, tag on mobile me for $69, ontop of the overages you would have to use with a Rogers account and its too much.

[queshy]

I'll be buying MobileMe just for the iDisk capability. Having my two computers constantly in sync for both calendars AND all my important files would be great! Plus eventually I will get an iPhone (if Rogers ever lowers the data prices...)

[albeli]

I hadn't noticed so I went to look. They have it in teeny print, huh? I usually don't even scroll down that far.

[Rychiar]

I'd get mobileme IF the damn email was FREE. seriously who gets paid accounts anymore? I used to have a .mac account as my main email and when that $100 a year started seeming too steep for me and i needed a real webhost i had to drop it...and therefore lost my longtime email that started off free mind you. The fact that i lost that even haunts me to this day sometimes and i dropped it 3 years ago.:rolleyes:

[solipsism]

I already have my aliases set up and I've told everyone that I will have a new email address by the end of the week (I'm going to use mobileMe as my primary as opposed to Gmail. I love Gmail but push email is enough to lure me away). A few times today I looked at my iPhone and thought, "Damn I wish I had push email... and contacts and calendars... How about ONE easy to use web interface? That would be freaking amazing..."

I think Apple will see a huge surge in the number of people purchasing mobileMe subscriptions. If you have an iPhone it's probably the best $99 you'll ever spend.

Since Gmail is free, offers IMAP and I'm assuming will have Push eventually, I'm just having my Gmail forwarded to my .Mac account and will use Gmail as my outgoing mail server on my iPhone.


PS: I was going to post the cheapest place I found .Mac (which is valid for MobileMe) for $79 for BOTH the individual and family packs from Royal Discount (http://store.royaldiscount.com/applemac.html), but now they are up to $90 and $95. Still a good price, but the 3 family pack licenses I bought last week for $79 each was a great deal. I'm set for 3 years now.

[pugnut]

Although the day is wrong, it say tuesday, the date on the calender is the 9th

just a observation.


www.me.com

[DeuceDeuce]

Thats awesome!!!

[moloukhya]

I just bought two .Mac boxes. One was delivered as a box, and the other one I got the code emailed via eBay. Each one was about $64, Great deal if you ask me.

I just entered the second code to stack them and I got a message saying my account will auto-renew next June. Has anyone done auto-renewal using an activation code?

[kjs862]

Great news. Can't wait to start using this service.

[solipsism]

Although the day is wrong, it say tuesday, the date on the calender is the 9th

just a observation.

The 9th day of the month does fall on Tuesday, just not for this July. That is the MobileMe icon, nothing more should be read into it.

[AmpCoder]

Although the day is wrong, it say tuesday, the date on the calender is the 9th

just a observation.


www.me.com
On second thought, it seems to be the default calendar icon for the iPhone press images.

[MacGeek7]

awesome - I can't wait to get it and then my iPhone

[solipsism]

That was the day MobileMe was originally announced. Tuesday, June the 9th.

In 1998? :D

[/dev/toaster]

Cool, something to play with waiting for the iPhone 3G :D

[twoodcc]

alright! can't wait for this! and now we have a countdown!

[kjs862]

What I just don't understand what took Apple so long to roll this service out? .Mac should have been out of the game awhile ago.

[knelto]

Although the day is wrong, it say tuesday, the date on the calender is the 9th

just a observation.

This year the 9th falls on a Tuesday in September and December. Another interesting, albeit unrelated, find that someone mentioned a while ago is the number on the calculator on the iPhone feature page (12.1808 or Dec 18th, 2008)

http://images.apple.com/iphone/features/images/main_calculator20080609.jpg

Something involving MobileMe and iPods in September? Something completely new before Christmas?! Nah, probably just looking into things too hard...

[kabunaru]

Can't wait until iTunes 7.7 is released. :D

[macfan881]

hmm does this mean firmware 2.0 will come out the 9th?

[sananda]

Something involving MobileMe and iPods in September? Something completely new before Christmas?! Nah, probably just looking into things too hard...

it means the walrus was paul.

[beatledud]

woah, 12.1808? NO COINCIDENCE!

[sfwalter]

hmm does this mean firmware 2.0 will come out the 9th?

From a marketing perspective, Apple may want to wait and release the firmware on the 11th. If they released it earlier some who were thinking of getting a new iPhone might decide to not upgrade. Especially since most of the functionality is in the software.

[mattbray]

Since Gmail is free, offers IMAP and I'm assuming will have Push eventually, I'm just having my Gmail forwarded to my .Mac account and will use Gmail as my outgoing mail server on my iPhone.


PS: I was going to post the cheapest place I found .Mac (which is valid for MobileMe) for $79 for BOTH the individual and family packs from Royal Discount (http://store.royaldiscount.com/applemac.html), but now they are up to $90 and $95. Still a good price, but the 3 family pack licenses I bought last week for $79 each was a great deal. I'm set for 3 years now.

Eh... Part of MobileMe's attraction, for me at least, is having everything in one interface. I have found myself getting out my phone to check my mail or add a calendar appointment or change a contact when it would really be more convenient to just do those things from one web portal and have those things pushed. It's a drag keeping Gmail open for easy web access (I refuse to use Outlook).

I think like most things Apple, MobileMe will quickly gain a foothold as people realize the benefits of having everything everywhere. I would liken it to people who have discovered IMAP email... Would you ever go back to POP? Didn't think so...

[MM07]

I am looking forward to this as well!!!!

[alenm88]

Hi.

I am getting an iPhone 3G on Friday and i also have an Mobile Me account.

Does having push email, means that that my iPhone email client will be gathering email every second?. If it does, will it take a lot of MB of date.

I mean i will have 150 MB on my iPhone plan, so maybe this Push thing will eat all my quota.

:confused:

[insocal]

I would liken it to people who have discovered IMAP email... Would you ever go back to POP? Didn't think so...

Would you explain this to me? I'm being serious. I haven't switched from POP because I like to be able to deal with some of my messages when I get back home rather than when I'm 'on the go'. Also I like to have them all saved on my Macbook.

How could I switch and still have this happen? It seems there are benefits such as the feature SEND TO GALLERY that is only available if your .Mac account is set up as an IMAP account. And the PUSH factor as well.

But seriously, I'd like to make the switch but still have the other advantage of things saved. Can you offer any advice?

Thanks!

[mattbray]

Hi.

I am getting an iPhone 3G on Friday and i also have an Mobile Me account.

Does having push email, means that that my iPhone email client will be gathering email every second?. If it does, will it take a lot of MB of date.

I mean i will have 150 MB on my iPhone plan, so maybe this Push thing will eat all my quota.

:confused:
I'm not sure that push will really consume more KB than pull. Any email is coming in via push would be coming in when you poll the server. Someone else can correct me if I'm wrong.

In other news: having an iPhone 3G and a LIMITED data plan sucks pretty hard.

[dissdnt]

Would you explain this to me? I'm being serious. I haven't switched from POP because I like to be able to deal with some of my messages when I get back home rather than when I'm 'on the go'. Also I like to have them all saved on my Macbook.

How could I switch and still have this happen? It seems there are benefits such as the feature SEND TO GALLERY that is only available if your .Mac account is set up as an IMAP account. And the PUSH factor as well.

But seriously, I'd like to make the switch but still have the other advantage of things saved. Can you offer any advice?

Thanks!

IMAP stores everything on the email server and syncs with any email client you have setup to use it. Meaning your email will look exactly the same on all machines. All your inbox,deleted,replys etc. Emails that you read on one machine will be set to read on the other etc. You can also setup as many folders as you want to organize your email and that will sync.

The PUSH factor means you'll get those changes synced instantly on all your machines using it, as well as getting your emails instantly instead of when it does a check for email.

Also if you have attachments i believe you can set it not to download and then download the attachments if you want them. Or you can set to bring in just the email headers and only when you click on the message will it download from the server.

All those make it quicker.

[mattbray]

Would you explain this to me? I'm being serious. I haven't switched from POP because I like to be able to deal with some of my messages when I get back home rather than when I'm 'on the go'. Also I like to have them all saved on my Macbook.

How could I switch and still have this happen? It seems there are benefits such as the feature SEND TO GALLERY that is only available if your .Mac account is set up as an IMAP account. And the PUSH factor as well.

But seriously, I'd like to make the switch but still have the other advantage of things saved. Can you offer any advice?

Thanks!

I've had admittedly little sleep so I'm not sure I understand your reservations... basically IMAP email is the same everywhere, as opposed to POP where it can get scattered amongst different computers, iPhones, web clients, etc...

I would say that IMAP has made keeping track of and searching for old emails incredibly painless.

In Apple Mail you can set your IMAP accounts to keep copies of messages and attachments on the client which means you have offline access...

[insocal]

IMAP stores everything on the email server and syncs with any email client you have setup to use it. Meaning your email will look exactly the same on all machines. All your inbox,deleted,replys etc. Emails that you read on one machine will be set to read on the other etc.

The PUSH factor means you'll get those changes synced instantly on all your machines using it, as well as getting your emails instantly instead of when it does a check for email.

Also if you have attachments i believe you can set it not to download and then download the attachments if you want them. Or you can set to bring in just the email headers and only when you click on the message will it download from the server.

All those make it quicker.

Thanks for the quick response!

But it sounds like if I were to delete something on my iPhone while out and about, it'd be gone when I got home? If I reply to a message from my iPhone, will it save the SENT messages back home as well? I like to keep a copy of ALL Sent messages, etc.

As for PUSH, does that mean it draws battery life more often. Or would you set it to do a "CHECK FOR E-MAIL" MANUALLY since it is gonna just come straight to you?

Thanks!

[solipsism]

Hi.

I am getting an iPhone 3G on Friday and i also have an Mobile Me account.

Does having push email, means that that my iPhone email client will be gathering email every second?. If it does, will it take a lot of MB of date.

I mean i will have 150 MB on my iPhone plan, so maybe this Push thing will eat all my quota.

:confused:

The whole point of Push Email is to use less bandwidth. Look it up on Wikipedia.

[Eric S.]

OK, I have a question about iDisk. Apple's video shows that the iDisk can be mounted as a remote drive under Vista. Does anyone know if the same capability exists with Windows XP?

[turkchgo]

Arn, you are quick! I just submitted this story to you about 1 minute ago. :)

8 minutes after I posted it to my blog! :)

http://troubledwine.blogspot.com/2008/07/mobileme-downtime-wednesday-night.html

[dissdnt]

Thanks for the quick response!

But it sounds like if I were to delete something on my iPhone while out and about, it'd be gone when I got home? If I reply to a message from my iPhone, will it save the SENT messages back home as well? I like to keep a copy of ALL Sent messages, etc.

As for PUSH, does that mean it draws battery life more often. Or would you set it to do a "CHECK FOR E-MAIL" MANUALLY since it is gonna just come straight to you?

Thanks!

If you delete a msg it just goes into your delete folder, so you can still view it at home.

Or you can just make a folder and move stuff into other folders on your iphone etc.

As for PUSH taking up more battery, i doubt it. The new PUSH feature in 2.0 is going to be used all the time for all iPhone users.

AIM will use it along with other new apps from the apps store. They basically send your phone a signal, like when you get a text, and update your phone.

You don't worry about sms draining or getting a call? Those are all PUSH type functions.

[gugy]

Does anybody know if MobileMe allows:
To use my own domain name website
to use my own email with my own domain name?

In other words I would like to moblieme to be like an web hosting service with the features that Apple provides. Is that possible.

Thanks for any input.

[Apple Ink]

Has any one actually noticed that the .mac mail setup in Mail.app finally doesn't need "Get Mail" to show new mail. I mean even if you click Get Mail, the rotating circle appears for a very very short time as compared to my Gmails! Push, maybe!!!


Or maybe Im getting way to psych in the current Apple rumor environment...
I mean first iPhone 3gG, 2.0 firmware, MobileMe, Whopping MBA price cuts, MBP Casing, New MBPs and MBs (if the name stays like that), Nehalem and new iPods and the ultra foggy iTablet!!!

Seems like I'll explode if this rate continues....

[Arnel]

Regarding the "Tuesday 9th" icon... promo shots for the iPhone have always shown that date, the date that the iPhone was first revealed at MWSF - Tuesday 9th January 2007.

[island]

Does anybody know if MobileMe allows:
To use my own domain name website
to use my own email with my own domain name?

In other words I would like to moblieme to be like an web hosting service with the features that Apple provides. Is that possible.

Thanks for any input.

You can forward your domain e-mail from Google Apps to MobileMe, then use Gmail as your SMTP server. This will allow you to use push e-mail and still send using your domain. I do that now with Gmail & Fastmail but I will be switching to MobileMe in 2 days!

[earthsaver]

I would also expect updates to iPhoto (7.1.4 drops .Mac Slides from the toolbar and any references to .Mac change to MobileMe) and Mail.app (replacing built-in .Mac email account support for MobileMe).

[FreeState]

Regarding the "Tuesday 9th" icon... promo shots for the iPhone have always shown that date, the date that the iPhone was first revealed at MWSF - Tuesday 9th January 2007.


Its the logo - its on the MobileMe box artwork:


http://www.apple.com/pr/products/mobileme/mobileme.html

[Apple Ink]

Does anybody know if MobileMe allows:
To use my own domain name website
to use my own email with my own domain name?

In other words I would like to moblieme to be like an web hosting service with the features that Apple provides. Is that possible.

Thanks for any input.

1. Yes. You may use your own domain name!
2. No. You can create aliases but they all will be "<alias>@me.com"

But still you can use the email address give to you free by DNR (if DNR did give you one) by adding it as pop (atleast this was the case in .Mac)!

[Eric S.]

Does anybody know if MobileMe allows:
To use my own domain name website
to use my own email with my own domain name?

In other words I would like to moblieme to be like an web hosting service with the features that Apple provides. Is that possible.

Thanks for any input.

Website, yes they claim to. Email, I'm not sure. But when I tried to get .mac to host my website they only gave out a Cname instead of nameserver info, and my domain name provider would not accept the Cname.

[ntrigue]

I purchased MobileMe 15 days ago and it still says, "Ships: Mid-July." What gives?

[puckhead193]

just in time to make it for my birthday :rolleyes:

[tobyringle]

In 1998? :D

Actually, the 9th is the date iCal was announced years ago. Its always been the default....

[gugy]

You can forward your domain e-mail from Google Apps to MobileMe, then use Gmail as your SMTP server. This will allow you to use push e-mail and still send using your domain. I do that now with Gmail & Fastmail but I will be switching to MobileMe in 2 days!

1. Yes. You may use your own domain name!
2. No. You can create aliases but they all will be "<alias>@me.com"

But still you can use the email address give to you free by DNR (if DNR did give you one) by adding it as pop (atleast this was the case in .Mac)!

Website, yes they claim to. Email, I'm not sure. But when I tried to get .mac to host my website they only gave out a Cname instead of nameserver info, and my domain name provider would not accept the Cname.


Thanks for the info!

[moonzilla]

can someone link me to a page where it says mobileme will be $69 with purchase of a iphone 3g? cant seem to find it on apple.com. also, do at&t stores carry .mac/mobileme?

[digitalbiker]

I just hope it actually works as advertised and that it is dependable. I think the service was better when it was free as itools.

As .Mac I have had these problems.
Sync worked sometimes but other times it completely corrupted my contacts and/or bookmarks. Sometimes it just refused to sync.

.Mac email was about 95% dependable but I am glad I had other pop servers because it seems to go out at the worst time. iDisk is dog slow and transferring larger files was weird. The progress bar would instantly complete and then hang for hours as the system closed the file. In other words, the progress reporting was a joke, lied, and didn't work right.

Here's hoping to a better experience with Mobileme. I don't see how it could get worse.

[FreeState]

can someone link me to a page where it says mobileme will be $69 with purchase of a iphone 3g? cant seem to find it on apple.com. also, do at&t stores carry .mac/mobileme?


hmmm store is down...

[Belly-laughs]

umm… the store (http://store.apple.com/) is down.

[sananda]

iDisk is dog slow.

so very true.

[msw123307]

"Existing .Mac subscribers should already be able to send and receive emails at their new @me.com addresses. MobileMe retails for $99/year, but iPhone 3G (or Mac) buyers will be able to pick up a year subscription for $69 on July 11th"

Wow, I must have been out of the loop on this. I had never heard you could get the rebate with the purchase of the Iphone 3g. Anyone know how this is going to work - just another mail-in rebate?

[queshy]

Canadian store down. PowerBook G5? Midrange Tower?

[matt18]

yeah i just noticed that too, about the apple store online being down...

hmmmmm

[FreeState]

Canadian store down. PowerBook G5? Midrange Tower?

All the stores are down, no matter what country your in. (I checked Europe and Asia anyway LOL.)

[dissdnt]

Hehe every time the Apple store is down I get all excited. It's like xmas morning wondering what Santa Steve is going to bring us. God i've turned into such a fan boy.

[digitalbiker]

"Existing .Mac subscribers should already be able to send and receive emails at their new @me.com addresses. MobileMe retails for $99/year, but iPhone 3G (or Mac) buyers will be able to pick up a year subscription for $69 on July 11th"

Wow, I must have been out of the loop on this. I had never heard you could get the rebate with the purchase of the Iphone 3g. Anyone know how this is going to work - just another mail-in rebate?

The downside is that I have heard that AT&T are going to charge extra for enterprise features. It sounded like they meant push service as in MobileMe key features.

So on top of the $30.00 monthly data plan. SMS text is extra and enterprise / push features are extra. Sounds like a rip from AT&T. this has nothing to do with Apple but I think ultimately AT&T is going to hurt iphone 3g sales.

[David G.]

Canadian store down. PowerBook G5? Midrange Tower?

3 GHz PowerMac?

[natejohnstone@g]

I've never done .Mac and am obviously new to MobileMe a well. Can someone tell me how much data storage space there is? The website just says "plenty" or something, lol. I'd like enough space to store all my important docs and all my pictures, plus some room to play with. Basically, i need over 20GB.

[ColonelSmith]

I've never done .Mac and am obviously new to MobileMe a well. Can someone tell me how much data storage space there is? The website just says "plenty" or something, lol. I'd like enough space to store all my important docs and all my pictures, plus some room to play with. Basically, i need over 20GB.

It starts out at 20GB but you can purchase more space.

[sananda]

I'd like enough space to store all my important docs and all my pictures, plus some room to play with. Basically, i need over 20GB.

you'll get bored with the slow speed long before you use up 20GB.

[Watabou]

Apple store is down. What can we expect from this?

And I will be subscribing to MobileMe when I buy my iPhone! :)

Also, how much extra does Apple charge for more storage space?

[2late2be]

well now i can't sleep until i find uot whats happening in the apple store!:rolleyes:

[digitalbiker]

you'll get bored with the slow speed long before you use up 20GB.

I'll second that! I'm not sure you could actually use all 20 GB because most human beings only have a life span of 75 years or less.

[rickshill]

taken directly from: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1932

What will I need for my iPhone or iPod touch to use MobileMe?
You will need to update to software version 2.0 or later to enable push mail, push contacts, push calendar, and push bookmarks. This software update will be available """when MobileMe launches""".

[MacGeek7]

Actually, the 9th is the date iCal was announced years ago. Its always been the default....

Actually....it was July 17... hence the default icon in your apps folder

[Pooshka]

I would also expect updates to iPhoto (7.1.4 drops .Mac Slides from the toolbar and any references to .Mac change to MobileMe) and Mail.app (replacing built-in .Mac email account support for MobileMe).
to your surprise, .mac references are all over the place:
Address Book
iCal
iChat
iMovie
iPhoto
iSync
iTunes
iWeb
Mail
Safari
System Preferences

list goes on

[Van Wildonher]

can someone link me to a page where it says mobileme will be $69 with purchase of a iphone 3g? cant seem to find it on apple.com. also, do at&t stores carry .mac/mobileme?

Also wondering the same thing as I want to sign up for the cheap price. However I already started a .mac trial with the username I want... I bought a mbp within the past 6 months or so if that helps any.

[phd]

That's too bad.. I'll miss built-in bookmark syncing to a web browser :(

[bacaramac]

to your surprise, .mac references are all over the place:
Address Book
iCal
iChat
iMovie
iPhoto
iSync
iTunes
iWeb
Mail
Safari
System Preferences

list goes on

Don't forget about my lonely Apple TV. Wonder how the OSX updates will be pushed, as a package or separate?? I can't wait for the all the software updates, it will be like Christmas again.

[bacaramac]

Also wondering the same thing as I want to sign up for the cheap price. However I already started a .mac trial with the username I want... I bought a mbp within the past 6 months or so if that helps any.

If it's anything like .Mac now, you will just send Apple an email to have them switch over the trial to a real account by giving them the activation code. This is assuming you for some reason cannot convert the trial online.

[Quillz]

Glad to hear it's launching July 9. My iMac runs both Leopard and Vista, so it'll be nice for Vista to finally have fully synced calendars and contacts running in Outlook.

[Psydnei]

to your surprise, .mac references are all over the place:
Address Book
iCal
iChat
iMovie
iPhoto
iSync
iTunes
iWeb
Mail
Safari
System Preferences

list goes on

I noticed that too....they're gonna have to do lots of updating to get rid of all that .mac integration.

On a side note, does anyone know if a single user mobileme subscription will be able to sync to multiple iphones?

[Pooshka]

Don't forget about my lonely Apple TV. Wonder how the OSX updates will be pushed, as a package or separate?? I can't wait for the all the software updates, it will be like Christmas again.
that's exactly what 10.5.4 i thought was for; apparently not

[digitalbiker]

So does anyone know if this means 10.4 users will completely lose their current .Mac functionality?

If 10.5.4 includes the new MobileMe compatible updates and Apple is switching to MobileMe on the 9th, then I am assuming Tiger will not get any updates to work with MobileMe.

I wonder if Apple is going to refund those subscribers their $99.00. It seems as though if you advertise email, idisk, sync, etc with a .Mac service and charge $99.00 for a year of service. Aren't you liable if you don't deliver that service as advertised.

Remember Leopard wasn't a requirement for .Mac service. So how can you force people to upgrade to Leopard when they have already paid for the full year of service with Tiger.

[RMo]

Hmm...the message doesn't say anything about this, but I'm assuming this is just maintenance (as it does say) and that mac.com will evetually go back online (even if it just redirects you to MobileMe)? The message almost makes it sound like it won't come back online, but it's the only thing I can imagine if existing subscribers' @mac.com e-mail addresses are supposed to keep working.

Then again, I guess the e-mail addres for existing subscribers is probably the most important thing, so who cares what they do with the Web server portion of it. :cool:

[bacaramac]

So does anyone know if this means 10.4 users will completely lose their current .Mac functionality?

If 10.5.4 includes the new MobileMe compatible updates and Apple is switching to MobileMe on the 9th, then I am assuming Tiger will not get any updates to work with MobileMe.

I wonder if Apple is going to refund those subscribers their $99.00. It seems as though if you advertise email, idisk, sync, etc with a .Mac service and charge $99.00 for a year of service. Aren't you liable if you don't deliver that service as advertised.

Remember Leopard wasn't a requirement for .Mac service. So how can you force people to upgrade to Leopard when they have already paid for the full year of service with Tiger.

You will get an update I would imagine on 10.4 and if not you will be able to use your .Mac stuff with that same functionality as it has today, but you won't get the new features of MobileMe. That is my understanding.

Stupid Apple store is still down. Hurry up Apple.

[Apple Ink]

that's exactly what 10.5.4 i thought was for; apparently not

Im guessing that It'll be a small update which will replace all instances of .Mac with MobileMe and also the icons. The underlying framework has already been changed for Macs by 10.5.4. The Mail.app, for example, now considers .mac mail as push!



Yippee. My 100th post! :)

[YEAHmanh]

would it make sense for me to have my iphone with an enterprise plan and use the mobileme service?

i know push email, calendar, contacts, etc. would be a push (ha! no pun intended), so the only benefit i see is idisk and send to gallery.

i do have one question though... would it be possible to get push contacts/calendar/etc. from both mobileme and enterprise? for example, would i be able to push my work contacts to the iphone and then have the iphone push the same contacts to mobileme? am i making any sense?!??! i'm confusing myself now....

[Berzerker]

Guys, guys, guys...MobileMe is an exchange service, but it WILL NOT require an Enterprise Data Plan. As a matter of fact, the only reason you'd need an Enterprise Data Plan is if your phone is registered with a company, not a personal account. AT&T won't go do something stupid like disable ActiveSync on the phones...it's a guaranteed, built-in feature of the 2.0 software.

[YEAHmanh]

i understand that... what i am saying is that i will already have exchange through my work. my question is if it makes sense for me to also have mobileme, if not for the push services, for idisk and save to gallery, etc.

[msw123307]

That's too bad.. I'll miss built-in bookmark syncing to a web browser :(

I didn't hear about this - where is an article saying this is the case?

[Apple Ink]

would it make sense for me to have my iphone with an enterprise plan and use the mobileme service?

i know push email, calendar, contacts, etc. would be a push (ha! no pun intended), so the only benefit i see is idisk and send to gallery.

i do have one question though... would it be possible to get push contacts/calendar/etc. from both mobileme and enterprise? for example, would i be able to push my work contacts to the iphone and then have the iphone push the same contacts to mobileme? am i making any sense?!??! i'm confusing myself now....

Makes a lot of sense to me! Dude your Office comp is not your own mac/PC and I'm guessing that your company doesn't provide services for your home mac/pc.

As for your second ques, yes its theoretically possible except in mail cuz mail.app has different mailboxes ;)

[YEAHmanh]

Makes a lot of sense to me! Dude your Office comp is not your own mac/PC and I'm guessing that your company doesn't provide services for your home mac/pc.

As for your second ques, yes its theoretically possible except in mail cuz mail.app has different mailboxes ;)

hmmm.. if that was the case, then that'd be pretty rad. i don't need to push my work email to mobileme... god forbid, i get thousands a day. that would take up the 20gb preeeeettyyy quickly.

also, i read in another thread somewhere that a business account is not needed to use enterprise so save your $15 and stick with the regular data plan... any truth to that?

[Apple Ink]

I didn't hear about this - where is an article saying this is the case?

If you have .Mac... Log in and look under the tips ( right section on the page just below the big MobileMe logo) You'll find the first tip to be self explanatory.

If you dont however, here (http://www.mac.com/web/en/Tips/C02785B2-4028-494D-86F7-B62F1ECFC8E9.html) is the link.

[digitalbiker]

I didn't hear about this - where is an article saying this is the case?

It's been discussed before and is a given because a stand-alone browser won't support push data. The push service only works with iphones, macs with mobileme, and ipod touches. All other .Mac services are going away. That is why Apple is asking everyone to sync all of their browser bookmarks before July 6th.

You can still backup bookmarks and bookmarks will be pushed to mobileme macs. The only functionality you will lose will be the ability to go to an internet cafe, or student computer center, log on to your .Mac site via a web browser, and access all of your bookmarks. Instead they will only be pushed to your own devices or machines.

[aLoC]

Yes nice features, but the problem with .Mac was never the features but the poor implementation. I sure hope this wasn't implemented by the same people or it is going to make the iPhone look bad.

[dragonpride2008]

i know that this thread is for the new mobile me launch but since some other people have talked about it i will i can't wait for the apple store(the one online) to update and the itunes to update to 7.7(this website is saying it might be updated with the moblie me launch)

[digitalbiker]

Guys, guys, guys...MobileMe is an exchange service, but it WILL NOT require an Enterprise Data Plan. As a matter of fact, the only reason you'd need an Enterprise Data Plan is if your phone is registered with a company, not a personal account. AT&T won't go do something stupid like disable ActiveSync on the phones...it's a guaranteed, built-in feature of the 2.0 software.

Are you positive about this? Many podcasts, by mac journalists, are up in arms about the AT&T plans. They are speculating that in order to get push service to your iphone you will be required to have an enterprise plan.

So not only is AT&T charging more for the 3G plan, but they are now going to be charging extra for text messaging and push data functionality. This is a total rip considering 3G is not available in most areas, charging extra for text messaging is price gouging considering it doesn't use much bandwidth and costs AT&T nothing to implement, now push data maybe charged separately. What a bunch of crooks!

[carlvz]

Yes nice features, but the problem with .Mac was never the features but the poor implementation. I sure hope this wasn't implemented by the same people or it is going to make the iPhone look bad.

Poor implementation; that's an understatement. .Mac would have been great if it wasn't so terrible. I've quit using the idisk; it was completely misrepresented as behaving just like another disk on your computer. Every time I had a problem with a file on it, I was told "oh, you can't use it like that." And I would say, "What's it doing in the finder if I can't use it like a disk?"

Address book has been mangled by the syncing/sharing stuff more times than I can can count. Don't get me started on iCal.

The whole "to do" thing has left me kind of confused. Shows in the mail app where you can sort of edit it some ways, in iCal where you edit it different ways and can do different things, and you can't do anything with it on the .Mac web site.

And I discovered by trial and error that the mail settings on the mail app have nothing to do with the mail settings on the .Mac web interface. Thought they used to, but not in 10.5.

Okay, I'm feeling clueless with this stuff, even though I'm a proficient mac user.

Has anyone else had these kinds of experiences?

[iLeoMarc]

now push data maybe charged separately. What a bunch of crooks!

If you look clearly at the iReady ATT Corporate Customer Website, they specifically target individuals who are already corporate customers.

Meaning these individuals:
1)Business Customer with corporate paying bill
2)Business Customer with individual paying bill
3)Small Business
4)Enterprise Telecom Manager

From this list, you can look at the fact that Corporate Customers are those individual which a particular company/organization has an account at ATT. At this case you can clearly see that it has to do with corporate account management. I don't think that this is tied to any particular 2.0 feature (like push, enterprise support) but rather "solutions and services", therefore push support should continue to work on a regular account as long as your company doesn't require you to have a "corporate" account.

[phd]

I didn't hear about this - where is an article saying this is the case?

http://www.mac.com/web/en/Tips/C02785B2-4028-494D-86F7-B62F1ECFC8E9.html

[Cloudsurfer]

so can we expect a software update for the system preferences menu?

[rawrdinosaur]

in response to the comment about the date on the calculator, i also found on apple.com that if you go to the features about the iphone 3g and look at app store, the icon below twitter is now loopt.inc and no longer aim (aol instant messanger) as being a free application.

i wonder why and when they changed that.
they had it as aim ever since june 9th's pictures of the iphone 3g first appeared..

hmm.

[salvatorereda]

anyone can tell me the difference between IMAP vs PUSH

moblie.me is going to have push...
I am using gmail on the ipod touch and it syncs just fine with IMAP..
My computer, ipod touch, and web based email all control my email.

[FreeState]

anyone can tell me the difference between IMAP vs PUSH

moblie.me is going to have push...
I am using gmail on the ipod touch and it syncs just fine with IMAP..
My computer, ipod touch, and web based email all control my email.

IMAP = Internet Mail Access Protocol. This is basically how email is stored and accessed (stored on a server so all computer/devices can access it and the changes are viewable on the other devices once they are synced - or you hit "check mail").

PUSH = a method in which changes to data (email, calendars, what ever) are pushed to a device without having to be manually fetched.

With push once an email is sent to you it will show up with in seconds of the email server receiving it (as apposed to having to check for email every few minutes). A change in your calendar will be pushed to your computer rather than having to sync it to get the update. If you add a bookmark on your iPhone it will be pushed to your computer that is online automatically within second. All this data is stored on a server also - but its not using IMAP which is just an email system.

IMAP just makes it so the emails are the same on all devices by storing the email on a server.

[kiwi031]

"early iPhone users in New Zealand"???

Mate, with the monthly charges at NZ$250 (roughly equal to U$D190!!!!!!!!!) for only 1GB, 600 minutes and 600 SMS (iphone 8gb to cost $199NZ) ; I reckon the uptake is going to be very small.

It's complete crap - I hope vodafone don't sell a single unit. :mad:

[moonzilla]

apple store is back up. i dont see any differences... :(


Edit: it WAS back up. back down again. there still may be a change in store (pun intended)


Edit2: Back up again and this time it looks like it's to stay. No updates.

[phalewhale]

Wow, looking forward to it going live... My .me addresses have been active since Monday morning.

[tripwire]

"buyers will be able to pick up a year subscription for $69 on July 11th"

Where does this come from?
I only know that Amazon had a deal where you could pick up .mac 5.0 for $69.

[arn]

"buyers will be able to pick up a year subscription for $69 on July 11th"

Where does this come from?
I only know that Amazon had a deal where you could pick up .mac 5.0 for $69.

Apple has had a deal where you can buy it for $69 with purchase of a Mac. With the iPhone 3G, we heard that Apple would also offer it as a discount when buying an iPhone 3G.

arn

[tripwire]

With the iPhone 3G, we heard that Apple would also offer it as a discount when buying an iPhone 3G.
arn

Thx for the info Mr Kim.
Called Apple Europe about that this morning, and they said they didn't know anything yet, and told me to check back after the mobileme upgrade tomorrow.

[loft3]

I was surprised when the .Mac sys pref wasn't replaced by a MobileMe sys pref in the 10.5.4 update. Guess we'll have to wait till 10.5.5 for that?

[diamond.g]

From a marketing perspective, Apple may want to wait and release the firmware on the 11th. If they released it earlier some who were thinking of getting a new iPhone might decide to not upgrade. Especially since most of the functionality is in the software.

taken directly from: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1932

What will I need for my iPhone or iPod touch to use MobileMe?
You will need to update to software version 2.0 or later to enable push mail, push contacts, push calendar, and push bookmarks. This software update will be available """when MobileMe launches""".

Mobile Me push won't work until the new FW is available (along with all the other system updates that need to be activated). It looks like Apple Support page is claiming 2.0 will be out tomorrow night. Of course we will see if this is really the case.

[kornyboy]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

Any chance of an iPhone 2.0 firmware update along with this or will we have to wait for a July 11th launch.

[diamond.g]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

Any chance of an iPhone 2.0 firmware update along with this or will we have to wait for a July 11th launch.

Push won't work without it. So there is a greater chance of it coming out.

[NYCAVS]

Any opinions on whether gmail accounts will be easy to (better?) forward to a me.com address for iphone usage or whether it will be better to leave as is with non-push (for now) gmail account?

Also, does anyone know if there is going to be any real "to do" lists on the new mobileme environment?

Finally, for families with 2 (or more iPhones)... if one wants to have separate work calenders but combined family calenders does one need multiple person mobileme account or can a single user account cover it?

Thanks!!

[slippery-pete]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

Any chance of an iPhone 2.0 firmware update along with this or will we have to wait for a July 11th launch.

I hope it hits tomorrow

[mondesi43]

Finally, for families with 2 (or more iPhones)... if one wants to have separate work calenders but combined family calenders does one need multiple person mobileme account or can a single user account cover it?

Thanks!!

Wondering a similar thing here....
Planning on getting a family pack.
Main email = mine (since I already have .mac)
sub account 1 = wife
sub account 2 = joint for calendar, sharing photos, to do lists

Sorry if this is a dumb question.....but:
Can we have push email/cloud data for 2 accounts on a single phone simultaneously (personal and shared)? If not, is there a work around to accomplish this? I'd assume you could just sign in/out as needed, but I'd prefer to not do that.

[137489]

Well, at $100 a year, having a website through .mac/me is a lot cheaper than what I had before ($100 for 5 years to have a domain name and $26/month for hosting). Plus the 20gb will give me more than what I had before with the hosting plan I had. that is a big advantage for me.

another advantage is for push mail. I just hope I can use it on my Palm Centro. I hate syncing with my gmail and AOL. Everytime I sync, I always have to go back and redelete mail from the server or from the phone. It does not sync my changes 100%. I would get an iphone, but I am locked into a contract with Sprint.

Either way, I had held of on getting .mac when I bought my macbook due to all the uncertainty at the time. Now I am working with iweb to build a smaller portion of the website I used to run. I am only putting parts of it back up because people had asked for my website to come back. It will be the same and different at the same time.

[MuzakaEklekta]

Wondering a similar thing here....
Planning on getting a family pack.
Main email = mine (since I already have .mac)
sub account 1 = wife
sub account 2 = joint for calendar, sharing photos, to do lists

Sorry if this is a dumb question.....but:
Can we have push email/cloud data for 2 accounts on a single phone (personal and shared)? If not, is there a work around to accomplish this? I'd assume you could just sign in/out as needed, but I'd prefer to not do that.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=510224

[NYCAVS]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=510224

Thanks...

[mondesi43]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=510224

Thanks!!!

[Pwned]

All:
I almost jumped in and bought a .mac membership but resisted because I didn't see the value in it. For 69 bucks though it might be worth it for Mobile Me. Can anyone who has used .mac in the past give their opinion on whether they think it's worth it or not to get mobile me? Sorry if this is a really dumb question but can you publish your own web page with mobile me? Also, is it a one time deal where you have to get mobile me at the time of a mac or iphone purchase or is there a grace period? Thanks to any who respond.:apple:

[GageGecko]

Iphone outrageous price, tag on mobile me for $69, ontop of the overages you would have to use with a Rogers account and its too much.

As compared to what? Have you shopped for a smartphone lately?

[flynifr]

Wasn't June 9th the day of the WWDC Keynote? That would make sense.

[Demon]

Finally a real sync program. the old iSync sucked except for Palm users. The so called sync right now never works. i've got 3 computers all syncing to the .Mac account... none of them ever really update.
this is exactly what i've been waiting for...
well... this and the iPhone 3G. :)

[fmiddleton]

SCRATCH: Didn't see that others posted the same thing...that teaches me for not reading all the way through the replies.

Yes, yes, I know that the 2.0 firmware is supposed to be released on the 11th, BUT...from the MobileMe FAQ (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1932)

"What will I need for my iPhone or iPod touch to use MobileMe?
You will need to update to software version 2.0 or later to enable push mail, push contacts, push calendar, and push bookmarks. This software update will be available when MobileMe launches."

Does that mean we can get the 2.0 firmware at 12:01am on the 10th? :D

[Island Dog]

One of the sales people at the Apple Store gave me a copy of .Mac for $69. Doesn't hurt to ask for a discount. :)

[exodar]

I am definitely making the switch from gmail to me.com for the push and calendar syncing just like most of you. However, I want to be able to search all of my historical mail without having to go back to gmail every time I want to do that. Has anyone devised a way to take all of your historical email from gmail and send it to me.com (or .mac at this point) so I could ditch gmail altogether? I will still probably use gmail's SMTP service so I can send email from my own domain, but I want all of my email to actually be stored in me.com.

Just curious...

[WPB2]

Push email is working on my mac right now. How do I know this, because when I send myself an email to .mac it would take a minute to get it on my MB, but when I send it to .me its instant. yall should try it out. Tell me if i am tripping.

[jzuena]

Since Gmail is free, offers IMAP and I'm assuming will have Push eventually, I'm just having my Gmail forwarded to my .Mac account and will use Gmail as my outgoing mail server on my iPhone.


PS: I was going to post the cheapest place I found .Mac (which is valid for MobileMe) for $79 for BOTH the individual and family packs from Royal Discount (http://store.royaldiscount.com/applemac.html), but now they are up to $90 and $95. Still a good price, but the 3 family pack licenses I bought last week for $79 each was a great deal. I'm set for 3 years now.

Wow. I bought a single user .Mac from Royal Discount about 3 weeks ago and it was only $55. I guess the MM release might be the end of finding discounted options for a while. If I had known, I would have stocked up, too.:D

My only problem with Gmail and IMAP has been that every few hours I get re-prompted for my login information (even though I have it saved in my keychain) and the login fails. I am using Thunderbird for my mail reader, though. Are any others seeing this behavior? I only use Mail.app for my .Mac account (which I don't really use), but if Mail.app works better than Thunderbird with Gmail, then I'll add Gmail and my ISP accounts to it as well and forget about Thunderbird. Either that, or forward Gmail on to .mac as others have done (although I might as well use all of that Gmail diskspace for something).

[kabunaru]

Does that mean we can get the 2.0 firmware at 12:01am on the 10th? :D

I sure hope so.

[WPB2]

Ok so i am tripping, but it use to take longer to get my .mac mail. Now its instant. I just sent 2 emails from my yahoo account to .mac, and mobilme, and they both arrived in 1 second. It really ust to take a minute or so about a week ago.

[WJKramer]

Push email is working on my mac right now. How do I know this, because when I send myself an email to .mac it would take a minute to get it on my MB, but when I send it to .me its instant. yall should try it out. Tell me if i am tripping.

Nope...still fetch here.

[mambodancer]

All:
I almost jumped in and bought a .mac membership but resisted because I didn't see the value in it. For 69 bucks though it might be worth it for Mobile Me. Can anyone who has used .mac in the past give their opinion on whether they think it's worth it or not to get mobile me? Sorry if this is a really dumb question but can you publish your own web page with mobile me? Also, is it a one time deal where you have to get mobile me at the time of a mac or iphone purchase or is there a grace period? Thanks to any who respond.:apple:

I've been a dotmac member for many years and will try to answer your query.

1) I have 3 Macs plus an iPhone. It allows me to sync address book and calendars between all 4 devices. This was the primary reason for purchasing dotmac for me. It also allows you to sync keychains, mail rules and accounts and bookmarks.

2)Domain name hosting (newer feature). One of my websites (I have 4) is now being hosted by dotmac. That saves me $120/year which is more than the cost of the $99/year dotmac subscription. I am thinking of moving another of my sites to dotmac which will save me even more. I'm not sure, but I think dotmac can only host one domain name at a time. I hope that changes with future updates (though, to be honest, I may be wrong about this).

3)iDisk and Backup utility-Currently you get 20GB of off site storage for mail, file storage and website hosting. Using the free Backup utility, I set up a schedule that backs up all of my documents to dotmac for safe, offsite and accessible storage. I can get access to important iWork, Office and business documents from any PC with internet access.

4)iLife integration with one click publishing from iWeb. Dotmac makes publishing my website extremely easy. I can also setup and publish albums or pictures through iPhoto and share them with friends and family very easily.

5)Free dotmac member software. Apple offers members free or discounted software on occasion. This has included Garageband jam paks, etc.

6)eMail. This most people already know about. I can have up to 5 email alias with my account. I can add additional email accounts for only $10/year. I can forward a non-dotmac email account to dotmac so that I can view those emails online.

7)I can publish select iCal calendars to dotmac and have friends and family members subscribe to them.

8)I can use my iDisk as a quick and easy FTP site when I need to transfer large files via the internet that might otherwise be blocked by my ISP.

9)The changes with MobileMe only improve the online eMail, Address Book and Calendar experience.

10)Push services with MobileMe means I no longer have to use iSync or sync services with iTunes to keep all of my Macs, iPhone and iPods synced. It happens almost instantly with any internet connection.

11)One stop solution. Some of these solutions can be purchased separately or are offered for free but I find them inelegant at best or unreliable at worst. I like the direction Google is gooing with its apps but the problem with "cloud" applications is they don't work too well when the cloud isn't available. You can't use Google if Comcast or Qwest is down for some reason. I can continue to use iCal, Address book and even Mail to write emails without a connection.

Those are my top 11 reasons why I will continue to subscribe and use dotmac. It also seems to be a service that apple continues to improve over the years and MobileMe is a big upgrade that will be very welcome. As usual, expect others to follow Apples lead and start to make changes to their services to make them look more like MobileMe.

You can view some of my websites that I created using iWeb at:

www.machelp4me.com (hosted domain name through dotmac)

www.escuelaminga.org (created by iWeb, hosted through eCentral)

www.portraitsinpaint.com (created by iWeb, hosted through eCentral, soon to move over to dotmac hosting)

All sites are in the process of being converted from GoLive so I haven't quite finished adding and editing pages yet but it will give you an idea of what you an do with iWeb.

-Michael

[Pwned]

mambodancer:
Thank you very much for your detailed response. Being able to create and post my own webpage for 69 a year has got me sold. Just so I am clear, if I have some music files saved or backed up to idisk can I access them and listen to them at work? Thanks again!

[garty]

Push email is working on my mac right now. How do I know this, because when I send myself an email to .mac it would take a minute to get it on my MB, but when I send it to .me its instant. yall should try it out. Tell me if i am tripping.

Seems to be pushing for me too. Nice

[okrelayer]

question, i signed up for a dot mac free trial about a month ago, i still have a month or so on my free trial, if i sign up for mobile me, will i beable to still use my dot mac email? Even if its through a free trial? I do NOT want myname@me.com!

edit: and if i make alias's can they still be .mac alias's? or will it only work for my original account?

[tgildred]

it means the walrus was paul.

It means they all died in the plane crash, and the island is purgatory.

Looking forward to the launch. I bought .Mac a couple weeks ago, so I could snag the @mac.com email address. Not so big on the @me.com thing... but the service looks good.

[windowpain]

I've been a dotmac member for many years and will try to answer your query../snip

-Michael

Thats a great post! thanks.

Im particularly looking forward to #9. the .mac website was awful. The new one looks far better, especially if it runs as fast as it does in the demo videos.

[BLACK MAC]

I am thinking of buying MM for my girlfriend and I. Do you know if we can share calendars between one and other? Will I be able to view her calendar on my iPhone and vice versa? I am looking to purchase the family subscription. Any help would be great! :)

[windowpain]

mambodancer:
Just so I am clear, if I have some music files saved or backed up to idisk can I access them and listen to them at work? Thanks again!

You can access anything on your idisk from any web browser. :)

http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/idisk.html

[Raymen]

I hadn't realised this had come around so fast, can't believe we're updating to mobile me tomorrow :rolleyes:.

I had noticed a slight increase in my @mac.com account speed of delivery, but I haven't tried my @me.com (I must say that I am still in favour of keeping my @mac.com address than inheriting my @me.com.) I'm also glad to see the idisk getting a space increase and some of the extra features.

I also wanted to know whether we'd have to wait for the next o/s update for all the relivent changes to icons etc to happen....

I also hope the mobile me mail online supports lower than ie 7 as work still hasn't updated yet.

[Pwned]

You can access anything on your idisk from any web browser. :)

http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/idisk.html

SOLD! Thanks for the replies!

[mambodancer]

mambodancer:
Thank you very much for your detailed response. Being able to create and post my own webpage for 69 a year has got me sold. Just so I am clear, if I have some music files saved or backed up to idisk can I access them and listen to them at work? Thanks again!

Yes, and...

Just to be clear. I don't back up my Music folder (with its iTunes Music library) or my Pictures folder (with all my iPhoto library files) to iDisk. Those folders are roughly 100GB and 50GB respectively. I would need to upgrade my iDisk by purchasing additional storage from apple to do this.

Having said that, if you COPY some of your music files to iDisk (as long as you don't exceed the 10 or 20GB's you have available in iDisk) you can then open and move them into another computers iTunes library. But I do want to make clear that you are not using iDisk to house your iTunes Music Library so that you can use one music library on multiple computers. That is a whole 'nother ball of wax.

Does that help?

[roland.g]

I really hope MobileMe works better as a webapp than .Mac Mail. Mail can be so slow to load an email, process a delete, or a move, etc. It is really bad sometimes.

[Kilamite]

I hope they actually update Leopard so you can just drag and drop files into the iDisk rather than having to use an FTP program.

I've never been successful in uploading a file to my iDisk using Finder.

[mondesi43]

I am thinking of buying MM for my girlfriend and I. Do you know if we can share calendars between one and other? Will I be able to view her calendar on my iPhone and vice versa? I am looking to purchase the family subscription. Any help would be great! :)

Look @ #116 & 118 from previous page

[Pwned]

Yes, and...

Just to be clear. I don't back up my Music folder (with its iTunes Music library) or my Pictures folder (with all my iPhoto library files) to iDisk. Those folders are roughly 100GB and 50GB respectively. I would need to upgrade my iDisk by purchasing additional storage from apple to do this.

Having said that, if you COPY some of your music files to iDisk (as long as you don't exceed the 10 or 20GB's you have available in iDisk) you can then open and move them into another computers iTunes library. But I do want to make clear that you are not using iDisk to house your iTunes Music Library so that you can use one music library on multiple computers. That is a whole 'nother ball of wax.

Does that help?

Sure does thank you, just wanted to make sure I could throw some songs/documents on there and access them at work, I am tired of losing flash drives :D

[wolfshades]

OK, I have a question about iDisk. Apple's video shows that the iDisk can be mounted as a remote drive under Vista. Does anyone know if the same capability exists with Windows XP?

Haven't read through all of the comments yet so this may have been answered. Yes, there is at least one web app that provides this functionality:Google provides a remote drive capability.

Don't know the details or what the storage limit is. I don't think it's as much as 20 gigs though....

[pusman83]

I hope they actually update Leopard so you can just drag and drop files into the iDisk rather than having to use an FTP program.

I've never been successful in uploading a file to my iDisk using Finder.

I'd buy it mainly for the iDisk, but I'm curious to see how simple it will be to backup.

[Schizoid]

The .Mac service is really slow in the UK - well the iDisk is slow anyway, I believe the servers were 5 x Quadra 950s...

Now mobileme is here, hopefully they've upgraded the servers too - maybe to a pair of Beige G3 towers or something, we might be able to exchange files bigger than 120k...

[aquarterof]

I hope they actually update Leopard so you can just drag and drop files into the iDisk rather than having to use an FTP program.

I've never been successful in uploading a file to my iDisk using Finder.

I've got to say that you might have a problem with your mac then Kilamite, because for me in Leopard, I simply drag and drop to iDisk, and it always appears in finder when I'm online.

:)

[gonnabuyamac]

I hope they actually update Leopard so you can just drag and drop files into the iDisk rather than having to use an FTP program.

I've never been successful in uploading a file to my iDisk using Finder.

I'm not sure what you're talking about... I've never had ANY problems using Finder with my iDisk.

[Kilamite]

I've got to say that you might have a problem with your mac then Kilamite, because for me in Leopard, I simply drag and drop to iDisk, and it always appears in finder when I'm online.

:)

Maybe I should have been more specific - a file over 1MB will cause problems for me. Takes ages for the duration meter to appear, and the whole process is crap. I just tried to upload an 18MB file, took 29 seconds for the progress bar to appear, and the time remaining never shows. The file upload also seems very sluggish.

Apple really needs to implement a half decent FTP into Finder.

[Sky Blue]

Dragged an 80 MB file to the iDisk the other day, worked fine and always has.

[Eric S.]

OK, I have a question about iDisk. Apple's video shows that the iDisk can be mounted as a remote drive under Vista. Does anyone know if the same capability exists with Windows XP?
Haven't read through all of the comments yet so this may have been answered. Yes, there is at least one web app that provides this functionality:Google provides a remote drive capability.

Don't know the details or what the storage limit is. I don't think it's as much as 20 gigs though....

What I'm asking is whether with MobileMe you can mount the iDisk as a remote disk under Windows XP? I'm already a .mac subscriber and I'm not interested in Google or any other service. Thanks.

[sananda]

Dragged an 80 MB file to the iDisk the other day, worked fine and always has.

it's super slow in europe; there's a massive thread about this in apple discussions.

[Macsterguy]

Here's to .Mac...
"May you rest in peace"...
You served me well O-.mac, keeping my Mac's and iPhone in sync...
You kept me up many a night but at the end, "I mastered you"...

Now to you MobileMe...
May you serve me well...
May I master you as well...
May I "Rest in peace" and get my sleep...

Here's to .Mac... goodbye

[iLeoMarc]

What I'm asking is whether with MobileMe you can mount the iDisk as a remote disk under Windows XP? I'm already a .mac subscriber and I'm not interested in Google or any other service. Thanks.

Well since you can do that now with the iDisk Utility for Windows and .Mac, I woud assume that woud be the case with MobileMe since they are not eliminating the idisk function.

[digitalbiker]

The .Mac service is really slow in the UK - well the iDisk is slow anyway, I believe the servers were 5 x Quadra 950s...

Now mobileme is here, hopefully they've upgraded the servers too - maybe to a pair of Beige G3 towers or something, we might be able to exchange files bigger than 120k...

Not just the UK. I am in the US and iDisk is not worth using for large files.

The uploading interface is clunky. A 5GB file or larger takes forever to upload and the progress reporting is all wrong. Even with a high speed broadband connection it is extremely slow.

Hopefully MobileMe will correct this glaring flaw with .Mac.

[digitalbiker]

Maybe I should have been more specific - a file over 1MB will cause problems for me. Takes ages for the duration meter to appear, and the whole process is crap. I just tried to upload an 18MB file, took 29 seconds for the progress bar to appear, and the time remaining never shows. The file upload also seems very sluggish.

Apple really needs to implement a half decent FTP into Finder.

This is the way .Mac works. Your experience is not unusual. It's currently a piece of crap.

[digitalbiker]

Dragged an 80 MB file to the iDisk the other day, worked fine and always has.

Consider yourself blessed! Most people don't have this kind of experience.

[mambodancer]

Maybe I should have been more specific - a file over 1MB will cause problems for me. Takes ages for the duration meter to appear, and the whole process is crap. I just tried to upload an 18MB file, took 29 seconds for the progress bar to appear, and the time remaining never shows. The file upload also seems very sluggish.

Apple really needs to implement a half decent FTP into Finder.

Again, something may be wrong on your end then. I just mounted my iDisk, dragged and dropped a 36MB DMG file to my documents folder. The progress bar popped up within a few seconds and the duration meter began to show time remaining after about 15 seconds. For this 36MB file, it is showing an upload time remaining of about 4 minutes (106KB/s).

Edit:

Also, while I haven't actually run a speed test to compare the two so my observations are completely anecdotal, an ftp to my website appears no faster or slower than a file copy to my iDisk. Don't know why others are getting the results they report. I'll try to do an actual speed test and report the results later if everyone is interested?

[Macsterguy]

I just noticed that when my iPhone gets/updates email that the time is 1 hour off from my central/standard/texas time? hmmmm...

Also, my mail on my iPhone is working amazingly fast today!!! hmmmmmm

[bobbleheadbob]

I'm keeping my .Mac e-mail address. For some reason, the whole me.com name annoys the heck out of me. :mad:

How long before they change the name? I'm hoping by MWSF in January.

[Kilamite]

Again, something may be wrong on your end then. I just mounted my iDisk, dragged and dropped a 36MB DMG file to my documents folder. The progress bar popped up within a few seconds and the duration meter began to show time remaining after about 15 seconds. For this 36MB file, it is showing an upload time remaining of about 4 minutes (106KB/s).

Nothing is wrong at my end - the response from Apple's servers is just dreadful from where I am if I use Finder. If I use an actual FTP program (i.e. Transmit) then it works fine.

The Finder is no good at being an FTP.

[poppyljg]

If I set up my gmail account to MobileMe, will the gmail get pushed from MM to my iphone?

[FreeState]

The uploading interface is clunky. A 5GB file or larger takes forever to upload and the progress reporting is all wrong.

This wont be a problem with MobileMe - because you are not able to upload files larger than 1GB (at-least from the web interface):

http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/idisk.html

[137489]

You can view some of my websites that I created using iWeb at:

www.machelp4me.com (hosted domain name through dotmac)

www.escuelaminga.org (created by iWeb, hosted through eCentral)

www.portraitsinpaint.com (created by iWeb, hosted through eCentral, soon to move over to dotmac hosting)

All sites are in the process of being converted from GoLive so I haven't quite finished adding and editing pages yet but it will give you an idea of what you an do with iWeb.

-Michael

Cool. However... Is it your design or is iweb a little flawed where everything is centered in the browser window, rather than allowing the content to take up the entire window. Then again, I am viewing this on a work computer - so Internet Explorer may be the problem. IE does not render websites correctly sometimes, hence why my home computers run firefox or safari.

[Eric S.]

Well since you can do that now with the iDisk Utility for Windows and .Mac, I woud assume that woud be the case with MobileMe since they are not eliminating the idisk function.

Ah, I was not aware of iDisk Utility. It does exactly what I want. Thanks!

[digitalbiker]

Cool. However... Is it your design or is iweb a little flawed where everything is centered in the browser window, rather than allowing the content to take up the entire window. Then again, I am viewing this on a work computer - so Internet Explorer may be the problem. IE does not render websites correctly sometimes, hence why my home computers run firefox or safari.

iweb is a novice app and provides a limited tool set for web design. It provides a very limited set of design features in exchange for being easy to use.

The biggest issue I have with iweb besides being very limited is the fact that you have to be very careful to not lose your website on your local machine. If you do, you are screwed.

You cannot restore your website code from the server. This bit me one time when I upgraded to Leopard from Tiger. I installed the latest version of iweb on my machine without backing up the local website on my machine.

I thought that this was no big deal because I could always download my site from .Mac. But nooo, iweb stores your local website in some proprietary binary file and there is no way to get your site back into iweb.

The only fix is to completely rebuild the entire site from scratch.

[wolfshades]

Maybe I should have been more specific - a file over 1MB will cause problems for me. Takes ages for the duration meter to appear, and the whole process is crap. I just tried to upload an 18MB file, took 29 seconds for the progress bar to appear, and the time remaining never shows. The file upload also seems very sluggish.

Apple really needs to implement a half decent FTP into Finder.

Not really sure that's the problem. I've seen this problem occur with almost any large file I want to upload from my computer to *anywhere*. ISPs generally like to throttle upload speeds. Unfortunately the app gets the blame....

[corygreenwell]

Won't 2.0 essentially have to be released for MobileMe to start working? I'm not getting MobileMe, but I CAN'T WAIT to get 2.0!!!!

Going to work might be impossible, which is rough since I need the hours to pay for this thing!

[diamond.g]

Won't 2.0 essentially have to be released for MobileMe to start working? I'm not getting MobileMe, but I CAN'T WAIT to get 2.0!!!!

Going to work might be impossible, which is rough since I need the hours to pay for this thing!

Only the push part for the iPhone needs 2.0. The webapp stuff will work as usual.

[digitalbiker]

Not really sure that's the problem. I've seen this problem occur with almost any large file I want to upload from my computer to *anywhere*. ISPs generally like to throttle upload speeds. Unfortunately the app gets the blame....

No it is idisk.

Not the upload speed from the ISP. This is a common problem that has been reported by many many users. My upload speed is fine to any other site. I can even ftp to the idisk much more reliably. But if you use finder and drag and drop the transmit speed is horrendous and the progress bar lies. Apple has a problem with this functionality of .Mac. I hope they correct this with MobileMe.

[msw123307]

It's been discussed before and is a given because a stand-alone browser won't support push data. The push service only works with iphones, macs with mobileme, and ipod touches. All other .Mac services are going away. That is why Apple is asking everyone to sync all of their browser bookmarks before July 6th.

You can still backup bookmarks and bookmarks will be pushed to mobileme macs. The only functionality you will lose will be the ability to go to an internet cafe, or student computer center, log on to your .Mac site via a web browser, and access all of your bookmarks. Instead they will only be pushed to your own devices or machines.

ok, i think i understand what you're saying. i'm new to .mac. I just saw the sync notice yesterday, and enabled it on .mac. however, it was already past the date of jul 6.

im guessing when i get mobileme tomorrow or thursday, i'll be able to start from scratch and sync everything i currently have on my mac? i've only been using a mac exclusively for a couple weeks now, so bare with me! :p i noticed all the "sync with .mac" options i had in different programs, but it's all kinda confusing. i guess because we are kind of in between the old and new platforms.

[LtRammstein]

All,

I think this might relate to the 9th update to MobileMe.

I tried to access my web gallery, but for some reason it timed out. I tried few of my friend's galleries, but same issue.

Anyone getting the same thing?

I feel that they started the upgrade process early to accomedate the New Zealand launch.

Edit: My sister has informed me it is working now. I still want to know if anyone encountered the same issue.

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

All,

I think this might relate to the 9th update to MobileMe.

I tried to access my web gallery, but for some reason it timed out. I tried few of my friend's galleries, but same issue.

Anyone getting the same thing?

I feel that they started the upgrade process early to accomedate the New Zealand launch.

My web galleries and iWeb website (www.peters-photography.com) are both down.

I hope they fix this soon...!?

EDIT: .Mac web galleries are back up but the iWeb site remains down

EDIT #2: both the .Mac web galleries and iWeb sites are back up

[Kilamite]

Not really sure that's the problem. I've seen this problem occur with almost any large file I want to upload from my computer to *anywhere*. ISPs generally like to throttle upload speeds. Unfortunately the app gets the blame....

I mentioned later on that if I use Transmit, the whole FTP transfer is extremely responsive and I begin uploading at my max upload speed. By responsive, I mean as soon as I drag the file into Transmit, it'll begin uploading immediately and the time bar will load immediately.

This does not happen when I use Finder - it is very sluggish and takes ages to begin the upload, and the time remaining bar gives me very large times.

[digitalbiker]

ok, i think i understand what you're saying. i'm new to .mac. I just saw the sync notice yesterday, and enabled it on .mac. however, it was already past the date of jul 6.

im guessing when i get mobileme tomorrow or thursday, i'll be able to start from scratch and sync everything i currently have on my mac? i've only been using a mac exclusively for a couple weeks now, so bare with me! :p i noticed all the "sync with .mac" options i had in different programs, but it's all kinda confusing. i guess because we are kind of in between the old and new platforms.

Hey it's confusing for everyone. Apple has not done a very good job with .Mac in the past even Steve Jobs came out and said that it stinked.

So with the new iphone Apple is trying to make a clean start. Let's hope they get it right this time. Potentially it sounds like nirvana but in reality your mileage may vary.

[Adjodha]

I JUST spoke with an Apple Rep and he said that there is no discount for the MobileMe service with the purchase of an iPhone. It does not apply to the iphone.

[Joeski]

does anyone know if the stores will be closing early to prepare for the launch of MM? I don't see it being as big as the Leopard release, just wondering.

[solipsism]

I JUST spoke with an Apple Rep and he said that there is no discount for the MobileMe service with the purchase of an iPhone. It does not apply to the iphone.
Expected, but the number of MobileMe users they'd get from both AT&T and Apple would be enormous if they did that. Plus, an iPhone + MobileMe would probably spark more than its fair share of Mac purchases, despite the new syncing to Windows.

does anyone know if the stores will be closing early to prepare for the launch of MM? I don't see it being as big as the Leopard release, just wondering.
There is nothing to prepare for. You can sign up completely online for MobileMe. The Stores just carry a small box about the size of 3 stacked CD jewel cases with a couple of Apple stickers and the activation code inside for gifts and such.

[aLoC]

Do you think there might me MobileMe desktop software for Mac & Win appear in the next few days? OS X still has the .Mac branding.

[solipsism]

Do you think there might me MobileMe desktop software for Mac & Win appear in the next few days? OS X still has the .Mac branding.

Yes, bundled in with iTunes 7.7.

[aLoC]

Yes, bundled in with iTunes 7.7.

Ah yes, I forgot that was coming.

[mambodancer]

iweb is a novice app and provides a limited tool set for web design. It provides a very limited set of design features in exchange for being easy to use.

The biggest issue I have with iweb besides being very limited is the fact that you have to be very careful to not lose your website on your local machine. If you do, you are screwed.

You cannot restore your website code from the server. This bit me one time when I upgraded to Leopard from Tiger. I installed the latest version of iweb on my machine without backing up the local website on my machine.

I thought that this was no big deal because I could always download my site from .Mac. But nooo, iweb stores your local website in some proprietary binary file and there is no way to get your site back into iweb.

The only fix is to completely rebuild the entire site from scratch.

The first problem may be some kind of compatibility issue with IE. I assume you are using a PC then? Except for a few punctuation artifacts, my iWeb sites display as shown in Safari and Firefox.

Your iWeb files are not stored as some kind of binary proprietary file. Your site files are stored in user>library>application support>iWeb. These are standard html files and can be backed up anyway you choose and uploaded using any ftp application. Also, if you want, just Publish your site to a folder from within iWeb, as I do, and upload using a program like Fetch.

I use iWeb because it does everything that GoLive did for me but so much easier. And since GoLive has been discontinued, I have no interest in spending any more money on a high end, over blown, complicated and hard to use web authoring app like GoLive or Dream Weaver.

[mambodancer]

I mentioned later on that if I use Transmit, the whole FTP transfer is extremely responsive and I begin uploading at my max upload speed. By responsive, I mean as soon as I drag the file into Transmit, it'll begin uploading immediately and the time bar will load immediately.

This does not happen when I use Finder - it is very sluggish and takes ages to begin the upload, and the time remaining bar gives me very large times.

I did a speed test and here are my results:

Copy 15.3MB file from Finder to iDisk - 134 seconds @ approx. 150 KB/s
FTP same 15.3MB file to my website - 53 seconds @ approx. 304 KB/s

A real test would be to FTP that file using Fetch to my iDisk. I have to figure that out yet so if anyone can help me with the ftp settings, please let me know.

[Apple Ink]

I did a speed test and here are my results:

Copy 15.3MB file from Finder to iDisk - 134 seconds @ approx. 150 KB/s
FTP same 15.3MB file to my website - 53 seconds @ approx. 304 KB/s

A real test would be to FTP that file using Fetch to my iDisk. I have to figure that out yet so if anyone can help me with the ftp settings, please let me know.

Please let me remind you. Don not mislead people by associating the word "FTP" with iDisk. iDisk only and only supports WebDAV!!!!!

Transmit builds in support for both FTP & the better WebDAV. Thats why you can use Transmit to write and read from iDisk!

[digitalbiker]

The first problem may be some kind of compatibility issue with IE. I assume you are using a PC then? Except for a few punctuation artifacts, my iWeb sites display as shown in Safari and Firefox.

Your iWeb files are not stored as some kind of binary proprietary file. Your site files are stored in user>library>application support>iWeb. These are standard html files and can be backed up anyway you choose and uploaded using any ftp application. Also, if you want, just Publish your site to a folder from within iWeb, as I do, and upload using a program like Fetch.

I use iWeb because it does everything that GoLive did for me but so much easier. And since GoLive has been discontinued, I have no interest in spending any more money on a high end, over blown, complicated and hard to use web authoring app like GoLive or Dream Weaver.

No, I am not using a PC.

Yes the page files are standard html. But if you lose the binary file that I am talking about you can no longer open up your iweb project on your local machine.

There is also no way to get the html files back into a project again once the project is gone. You have to start over. Wait until it happens to you and then you will be pissed.

If I could remember the name of the file, you could move it and see for yourself. But it is an obscure file in a convoluted location. I will try and find it and get back to you. You need to make sure you back it up regularly, if you don't you will lose everything.

OK, the file is actually a package not a binary file. It is in your home directory/Library/Application Support/iweb and the file is named Domain. If you lose this package or it becomes corrupted you can no longer access any of your sites on the machine. You can create a new Domain file but once having done that there is no way to get you old sites back into iweb. It really sucks. I lost about 20 sites this way.
I had no idea that you had to backup this particular file. I backed up my html files, iweb application, data files, etc. but when my HDD failed I had not backed up this file and I could not use any of my past site organization or html files in a new iweb domain. There is no import option which in my opinion is a show stopper. Apple needs to make this app so that you can import past projects and data into the iweb application.

I will never use this app again. Best to write the html with a good text editor like BBedit or use something like Dreamweaver.

[ArthurDaley]

Since buying a Mac I've been puzzled as to why people pay up for .Mac or now MobileMe other than to join a fan club.

I don't want a .mac or .me email address; and I don't want to use iMail as Gmail is much better - even better you don't have to worry about sync issues when it stays in the cloud, so you don't need the sync service for your email either that .me offers!

As for iDisk, lots of others offer online storage solutions, I bet many better than iDisk and what's wrong with just FTPing to a server that you have space on.

The only other benefit is to sync your contacts because you think paying for this service is easy than putting the iPhone into the cradle to sync it!

Please do let me know if I am missing something, but I only see the service is a way of saying "Steve, I pay homage to you, here is some cash to prove it".

[aLoC]

Please do let me know if I am missing something, but I only see the service is a way of saying "Steve, I pay homage to you, here is some cash to prove it".

One other advantage is you don't have to configure anything (no typing in SMTP servers and ports etc). You just type your .mac address when installing OS X and everything is set up for you: email, idisk, iweb, all ready to go.

[Advance The Man]

I use multiple computers and want to synch email, calendar and contacts to each. Right now I am (with Treo) synching with each individual computer, sometimes forgetting I updated say a contact on one computer before so all won't be the same. Mobileme will be awesome and I'm as excited about this as getting the iPhone.

One question I have is on family memberships, will the calendar on each iPhone synch to all.



The only other benefit is to sync your contacts because you think paying for this service is easy than putting the iPhone into the cradle to sync it!

Please do let me know if I am missing something, but I only see the service is a way of saying "Steve, I pay homage to you, here is some cash to prove it".

[mondesi43]

I use multiple computers and want to synch email, calendar and contacts to each. Right now I am (with Treo) synching with each individual computer, sometimes forgetting I updated say a contact on one computer before so all won't be the same. Mobileme will be awesome and I'm as excited about this as getting the iPhone.

One question I have is on family memberships, will the calendar on each iPhone synch to all.

#116 & 118 this thread and here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=510224)

In other words, yes. You can sync multiple calendars and emails.

[jflash07]

I just bought mobileme from the apple store. I haven't gotten an email yet but do I have to wait for the box to come to use it? Or will they have an option for me to get my activation code online?

Thanks

[ArthurDaley]

I use multiple computers and want to synch email, calendar and contacts to each

Use Google for email, calendar and contacts. Problem solved and you can have access from the other billion internet connected computers in the world should you wish.

[docdailey]

I was not a .mac person... am not an apple person but I can give you my scenario as to why I will be a mobileme guy...

I have an Iphone and like the interface... I have multiple computers at work...one in my office, a few in my clinic and many at the hospital...I also use a Palm Tungsten C for my medical stuff. I have 5 computers at home any one of which I may use depending on convenience. If I use mobileme everything is sync'd. I have tried various kludge solutions and they can partially get the job done albeit with alot of wrangling. This combined with a google spanning tool should accomplish keeping ALL of my devices sync'd and give me access to files as needed.

Bill


Since buying a Mac I've been puzzled as to why people pay up for .Mac or now MobileMe other than to join a fan club.

I don't want a .mac or .me email address; and I don't want to use iMail as Gmail is much better - even better you don't have to worry about sync issues when it stays in the cloud, so you don't need the sync service for your email either that .me offers!

As for iDisk, lots of others offer online storage solutions, I bet many better than iDisk and what's wrong with just FTPing to a server that you have space on.

The only other benefit is to sync your contacts because you think paying for this service is easy than putting the iPhone into the cradle to sync it!

Please do let me know if I am missing something, but I only see the service is a way of saying "Steve, I pay homage to you, here is some cash to prove it".

[jflash07]

I just bought mobileme from the apple store. I haven't gotten an email yet but do I have to wait for the box to come to use it? Or will they have an option for me to get my activation code online?

Thanks

Nevermind, I called them... I do have to wait for the box... lame

[swingerofbirch]

Is anyone else concerned that the transition could cause problems? Should I back up my iDisk to my computer? I feel a bit nervous with this impending transition since I don't know exactly what will happen. Like how will the push e-mail magically work without an upgrade to Mail? The only option in Mail is still to check e-mail every 1 minute, etc. Will .Mac homepages still stay on the web?

[carlvz]

[QUOTE=mambodancer;5733825]Again, something may be wrong on your end then. I just mounted my iDisk, dragged and dropped a 36MB DMG file to my documents folder. The progress bar popped up within a few seconds and the duration meter began to show time remaining after about 15 seconds. For this 36MB file, it is showing an upload time remaining of about 4 minutes (106KB/s).

Yep, consider yourself lucky. Large files often get munched in the process here, when I try to get them to the idisk. Sometimes the finder crashes too. I talked with tech support and they said I shouldn't try to move the types of files I was trying to move. And OMG using a spreadsheet that's placed on the idisk can be grueling. From what I read, this is very common, and it appears to be a problem with the finder.

[smooth]

Use Google for email, calendar and contacts. Problem solved and you can have access from the other billion internet connected computers in the world should you wish.

This year has been the first year when I went "online" to replace my trusted planner/organizer of 14 years. I have been using Yahoo for my mail, address book and calender. I also tried Google, but to me they are one half dozen of the other so I stuck with Yahoo.

However, I had bought my MacBook right around the time I decided to put my Dayrunner to rest. It was on that computer that I organized my Yahoo address book and calender. I decided to use my MacBook's address book as a backup, in case I needed a number or address and didn't have internet access and then I decided to use iCal as a backup as well.

The simplicity and clean look of iCal really won me over and I was quite disappointed that there was no web-version of it with .Mac. Since I've heard about MobileMe, I've been looking forward to trying it out. While I only use 2 computers, I do use my work PC more often so I would love to have iCal be my primary calender. I have a terrible memory so I think it would be a huge help with not having my Dayrunner around anymore. Plus eventually, if Apple comes out with a 32GB iPhone or they open it to other networks besides AT&T, I will likely get one. I think MobileMe's push will work pretty seamlessly with one. Personally, I think it's worth $100 a year though I do plan on doing the free trial first.

[Agathon]

Since buying a Mac I've been puzzled as to why people pay up for .Mac or now MobileMe other than to join a fan club.

I don't want a .mac or .me email address; and I don't want to use iMail as Gmail is much better - even better you don't have to worry about sync issues when it stays in the cloud, so you don't need the sync service for your email either that .me offers!

As for iDisk, lots of others offer online storage solutions, I bet many better than iDisk and what's wrong with just FTPing to a server that you have space on.

The only other benefit is to sync your contacts because you think paying for this service is easy than putting the iPhone into the cradle to sync it!

Please do let me know if I am missing something, but I only see the service is a way of saying "Steve, I pay homage to you, here is some cash to prove it".

For most people it is the sync services. Until recently, I had three macs (now only two). I need all the mail, passwords, contacts, and bookmarks to be available on all of them and I want it to work without me having to do anything. .mac does this for about $2 a week, which is less than the price of a good cup of coffee. I also use Back to My Mac to access my work machine when I am at home (this feature has already saved me about a day's work).

I also host the sites for my courses on .mac. iWeb makes them easy to manage and I've never had a problem with downtime.

Oddly enough, a couple of months ago, I said that Apple should do push email with .mac.

It's a whole new ballgame now. I have been using my iPod Touch as a PDA for a few months. Mobile Me and the app store look like turning a useful gadget into my most important possession.

The one thing they need to do is allow for the syncing of notes and to dos between Leopard Mail and the Touch.

[leegordon79]

So glad to here MM will host my website! That makes it totally worth the $69 or $99.:D

Two questions I have not seen answered:

(1) How to get all my archived data from Gmail to my MM acct so I can see ALL my mail, not just new mail.
(2) They show iDisc as a removable disc on Vista. Will I be able to see it like this on XP -- without having to open a browser and navigate to the iDisc?

Thanks!!!

[Eric S.]

I would gladly pay $100/year, or more, just to avoid the ads that Google forces on you.

[Sky Blue]

The last day of .Mac

Goodnight, sweet prince

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[Diaresi]

So glad to here MM will host my website! That makes it totally worth the $69 or $99.:D

Two questions I have not seen answered:

(1) How to get all my archived data from Gmail to my MM acct so I can see ALL my mail, not just new mail.
(2) They show iDisc as a removable disc on Vista. Will I be able to see it like this on XP -- without having to open a browser and navigate to the iDisc?

Thanks!!!

1) If you have them both in Mail (using IMAP) then just drag all the emails from the folder you have on Gmail to the folder you have on MobileMe.

2) From what I could gather from the news items, to get iDisk in Windows you Map it as a Network Drive. Windows XP has the feature (right click on My Computer > Map Network Drive) :)

[hayesk]

I just bought two .Mac boxes. One was delivered as a box, and the other one I got the code emailed via eBay. Each one was about $64, Great deal if you ask me.

I just entered the second code to stack them and I got a message saying my account will auto-renew next June. Has anyone done auto-renewal using an activation code?

Yes. It will just auto-renew and use the code. You can't really see that it's in there, and in fact, I think it said it will charge your credit card when it auto-renews, but it doesn't. The code is considered a discount off the bill.

[hayesk]

A few times today I looked at my iPhone and thought, "Damn I wish I had push email...

Uhm... why didn't you just tap "Check Mail" or set it to check every few minutes? I'm still not seeing the need for push email for 99.999% of the people who say they need it.

[BillyBobBongo]

Glad to see this coming out. I was thinking just about this this morning.....gawd bless time zones!! :)

[jflash07]

Nevermind, I called them... I do have to wait for the box... lame

Not a loop hole, but I somehow got t a place where I could still buy a .mac membership and did... so I'll be good to go tomorrow! No waiting for a damn box.

[dissdnt]

Uhm... why didn't you just tap "Check Mail" or set it to check every few minutes? I'm still not seeing the need for push email for 99.999% of the people who say they need it.

Cause we are fancy.

[andiwm2003]

Uhm... why didn't you just tap "Check Mail" or set it to check every few minutes? I'm still not seeing the need for push email for 99.999% of the people who say they need it.

as i understand it it's a bit more than that. the mails get pushed to my phone when i'm away from my phone. when i don't have reception i still can read them offline withoput having to wait for the edge network to download them. that is convenient. the same is true if you're not all the time on your computer.

also the same mails are on your computer and your phone regardless if you pushed check mail.

and since bookmarks, mails, calendar, to do's, contacts are all push synced it saves you more than just one click.

but i agree with you somehow. if it was only push mail it wouldn't be worth it.

[MacPhilosopher]

Uhm... why didn't you just tap "Check Mail" or set it to check every few minutes? I'm still not seeing the need for push email for 99.999% of the people who say they need it.

If you think of push email as just a service for checking your mail, you are right. However, it is the continuity between environments (desktop/laptop/iPhone) that makes push worthwhile. Mail is actually the least of the push items I am concerned with. iCal and Address push will make the syncing process seamless(lets hope). However, even with mail, I will be happy to have my most recent sent mail from my iPhone placed automatically in my set mail folder at home.

[leegordon79]

(1)Am I to assume that sometime this evening, I'll be able to buy MM and start uploading things to my galleries and iDisc?

(2)If it is true that you get a $30 discount on MM if you also buy the iPhone, do you think you'll have to buy MM at the ATT store (i doubt it)? Maybe they'll give a coupon? How has this been done in the past?

(3)Is it doubtful that the .mac site will be down for even close to the 6 hours they have announced? You'd think they'd have the MM site up and running by 7pm?

Glad to hear your opinions.
Thanks!

[zedsdead]

I didn't care that they were dropping the "Bookmark" service, but when you think about it, this should be part of their whole "Push" movement. They are doing contacts, email, and calender, why not Bookmarks in Safari since they are part of Sync.

I really am hoping MobileMe will eventually provide iPhoto Synching.

Nonetheless, I am very excited that by the time I wake up tomorrow, MobileMe will be active.

[Kilamite]

I really am hoping MobileMe will eventually provide iPhoto Synching.

Considering most people have iPhoto libraries of more than 2GB's, it won't be for a long time (i.e. when the whole ISP bandwidth issue gets resolved) that we see the ability for that. But I reckon in about 5 years time, the consumer will be able to upload such high amounts of data very quickly and error free.

[andiwm2003]

I didn't care that they were dropping the "Bookmark" service, but when you think about it, this should be part of their whole "Push" movement. They are doing contacts, email, and calender, why not Bookmarks in Safari since they are part of Sync.

I really am hoping MobileMe will eventually provide iPhoto Synching.

Nonetheless, I am very excited that by the time I wake up tomorrow, MobileMe will be active.

the point is that they made bookmark syncing part of the push process. they push sync new bookmarks to all computers and iphones.

what they dropped is the stand alone bookmark tool that allowed you to access your bookmarks from a computer in an internet cafe or from a friends computer. i don't see why they had to drop that feature. maybe it comes back since a lot of people want it.

photo syncing is unlikely because of the huge data amounts. maybe document syncing but then that's what you get the idisk for. i guess there will be third party tools that allow manual syncing to all computers via idisk.

[jflash07]

Hey, does anyone know if you will be able to set up email accounts in mobileme? Like Gmail has with its ability to send from multiple addresses. In other words can I select what email account an email comes from in mobileme?

The reason I ask is because in gmail I currently have my college email and work email routed through gmail, letting me reply to emails from college people using my college address and so on.

[ifonline]

Ungh... .Mac goes down for the last time at 9pm EST. Great... another long evening. Not that I have to wait for the new service to start, mind you, but because I want to! :p

[smiddlehurst]

My now-ex-workmates gave me a leaving gift of an Apple gift certificate last week (seriously, is that the most imaginative thing they could have come up with? Oh well) so decided to take MobileMe for a spin. As it's not out yet this involved going to an Apple store and getting a .mac subscription but what the helll, at least this way I know what the service was like before they make it 100 times better / stuff it up totaly (delete as appropriate)

First impressions of .mac are surprisingly good. A tad slow perhaps but the integration is really nice and it's surprising just how natural it feels in OS X, almost like it should be part of the retail pack *cough*. Haven't bothered with E-mail until MobileMe goes live but chucked a quick web site together and published a photo album... so far so good.

One of the nice things with the switchover is that for ONCE the time difference works in our favour in the UK. I can go to bed happy around mdnight as there's no way I'm staying up all night to watch this and, in theory anyway, when I wake up MobileMe should be live and maybe, just maybe, I'll be able to grit my teeth and give Apple another few precious pounds in exchange for iPod Touch Firmware V2...

Seriously though, I'm really excited to see all of the push functionality in action and, if it works as advertised, it could be a major benefit to both personal and business sides of my life. Come on Apple.... *crosses fingers*

[leegordon79]

Damn! I misread 6pm PT for 6pm ET. Perhaps I will get even less work done tomorrow morning.:eek:

[Joeski]

I just went to the Apple store in the Garden State Plaza and bought .mac. I told the guy I was given a MBAir last week, and in turn he gave me a $30 discount! I don't have the time tonight to set it up, so when I do set it up tomorrow it should be MM right?

[ziggyonice]

Bye iCards... :(

122991

[Sky Blue]

Will we get our .Mac exclusive widgets today ? :eek:

[aethelbert]

Bye iCards... :(

122991
No more iCards? Damn

[maverick808]

After 6... GO....

[twoodcc]

After 6... GO....

yeah, has it started yet?

[matt18]

After 6... GO....

haha...i'm thinking the exact same thing!

[gibbz]

.mac website still available.

[iTim314]

So far, no.

[Fuchal]

Will we get our .Mac exclusive widgets today ? :eek:

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Sky Blue]

guys, the service is down from 6pm to 12. It's not gonna pop up in 5 minutes. Knowing the .Mac team it won't even be ready in 6 hours...

[AmpCoder]

Looks like the maintenance window has been delayed:


MobileMe Launch
7/9/2008, 8pm-2am PT

As part of the MobileMe launch, www.mac.com will be taken offline at 8pm PT on Wednesday, July 9th.

Members will be unable to access www.mac.com or any .Mac services during this time with the exception of .Mac Mail accessed via a desktop application, iPhone, or iPod touch.

MobileMe will be available as soon as possible during this maintenance window.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=5750080

[AvSRoCkCO1067]

they changed the message. They don't plan on updating anything till 8:00p PT-2:00a PT

EDIT: just a bit too late :(

[ifonline]

Well... right out of the gate, Apple has started with a problem. The original 6pm maintenance has been moved to 8pm. Interesting.

[ziggyonice]

The original 6pm maintenance has been moved to 8pm. Interesting.

Good thing too. I was browsing for the site, waiting for it to go down when I found Member Central (http://www.mac.com/WebObjects/Tools.woa?destination=downloadSoftware&aff=consumer&cty=US&lang=en&identifier=MVSYpj6g7y42pglJ)! Downloading them all before they're gone forever!

[sfwalter]

Well... right out of the gate, Apple has started with a problem. The original 6pm maintenance has been moved to 8pm. Interesting.

I wouldn't say there are having problems. Just because they change the time by a couple hours only means one thing: we have two more hours of access to our .mac account

[Ibjr]

Well... right out of the gate, Apple has started with a problem. The original 6pm maintenance has been moved to 8pm. Interesting.

This is not necessarily an indication of a problem. They give a 6pm PT deadline, and move it back two hours right before it occurs. This allows anyone doing last min stuff with their .mac account extra time. People always do stuff at the last minute, this little delay saves Apple from a headache.

[leegordon79]

Wait for it...wait for it...:D

[leegordon79]

Someone please post when I can go and BUY the damn MM with full functionality! Where to check???

[ndriver182]

Wait for it...wait for it...:D

Almost there... just a few more seconds... (A New Hope, anyone?)


Anyway, do we have to do anything in our mail app for the @me.com switch? I'd assume we just change the login and server info to have me.com info, right?

[Pooshka]

Almost there... just a few more seconds... (A New Hope, anyone?)


Anyway, do we have to do anything in our mail app for the @me.com switch? I'd assume we just change the login and server info to have me.com info, right?
no, you need not do anything; expect MobileMe installer (http://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/43/32/zzz061-5009/xhMJmcKHHGWGr7kKtsdpnvw4VfD8VxbSfy/MobileMe.pkg) in Software Update very very soon; iLife apps are to be updated separately.

[nvbrit]

Looks like Apple has revised the timeframe because .mac is still up and the message in there now says the following:

MobileMe Launch
7/9/2008, 8pm-2am PT

As part of the MobileMe launch, www.mac.com will be taken offline at 8pm PT on Wednesday, July 9th.

[nvbrit]

This is not necessarily an indication of a problem. They give a 6pm PT deadline, and move it back two hours right before it occurs. This allows anyone doing last min stuff with their .mac account extra time. People always do stuff at the last minute, this little delay saves Apple from a headache.

Maybe they realized that 6pm was dinner time so they pushed the start time out so they could order pizza

[LateNightRadio]

anyone who thinks MobileMe will be up right after 8 rolls around... you've got to be kidding.

there's a reason that it's a SIX HOUR WINDOW OF MAINTENANCE.

[ifonline]

anyone who thinks MobileMe will be up right after 8 rolls around... you've got to be kidding.

there's a reason that it's a SIX HOUR WINDOW OF MAINTENANCE.

Did someone say they expected it to be up immediately?

[nvbrit]

Did someone say they expected it to be up immediately?

Well if you look back at the previous posts, a lot of peoples reactions indicate that they were waiting for 6pm so they could see the new MobileMe... when in fact .mac will go down (at 8pm now) and it could be several hours before some accounts come back online, some may need to wait all the way until 2am

[ifonline]

Eh... my take on it is that everyone is just excited about the change and the future of push delivery outside of Exchange.

Having .Mac go down (permanently) is an event in itself, as I see it. I had no expectations that MobileMe would be running before I had to go to bed, though. I'll cross that bridge tomorrow after work, but I feel like it will be a milestone to see .Mac gone, that's all.

[twoodcc]

Well if you look back at the previous posts, a lot of peoples reactions indicate that they were waiting for 6pm so they could see the new MobileMe... when in fact .mac will go down (at 8pm now) and it could be several hours before some accounts come back online, some may need to wait all the way until 2am

i think people just want to see that .mac is down, so it means that mobileme is actually coming tonight sometime

[billmister]

well .Mac is not up.. But .me isn't up yet... tomorrow when i wake up it will probably be up.

[gcmexico]

damn I was way late for this:eek: