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macDonalds
Jul 11, 2008, 03:50 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521

I heard it on WFAN the fan in NYC first. They threw out 3 teams:

Ravens
Vikings
Bears



benmrii
Jul 11, 2008, 03:58 PM
Ugh... :o

I hope I'm wrong, but this has "another all-time great going out in a laughable style" written all over it. This is pathetic... from me almost choking up to see such a fantastic quarterback say goodbye through tears to going to "some team" - particularly after playing only for the Packers over his entire career - to play another year or two... gag.

macDonalds
Jul 11, 2008, 04:00 PM
I've lost a lot of respect for the guy over the last few seasons. He has dragged this retirement deal on for too long.

benmrii
Jul 11, 2008, 04:11 PM
I've lost a lot of respect for the guy over the last few seasons. He has dragged this retirement deal on for too long.

I'm a huge Buccaneers fan and I hated when the divisions were changed and we no longer got to play the Packers twice a year. I love Farve, think he was a fantastic quarterback and cheered for him (so long as he wasn't playing us). This is the first time I've really begun to lose respect for him... well that and when he laid down for Strahan for the bogus NFL sack record.

TimTheEnchanter
Jul 11, 2008, 04:27 PM
Hmm... 3G iPhone, 2.0 release and Eddie Murphy's Meet Dave opening today.
Anyone see the coincidence for Brett here or is it just me? ;)

Wait, I hear something..... the muffled sounds of cheeseheads crying in their beer. :o

tobefirst
Jul 11, 2008, 04:28 PM
Ugh... :o

I hope I'm wrong, but this has "another all-time great going out in a laughable style" written all over it. This is pathetic... from me almost choking up to see such a fantastic quarterback say goodbye through tears to going to "some team" - particularly after playing only for the Packers over his entire career - to play another year or two... gag.

For the record, he didn't just play for the Packers. He had 4 attempts in 2 games for the Falcons his first year. (:

TimTheEnchanter
Jul 11, 2008, 04:33 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521

I heard it on WFAN the fan in NYC first. They threw out 3 teams:

Ravens
Vikings
Bears

Oh great! If he came here we'd have to put up a border fence. It will be the likes of Israel & Palestine. (I apologize ahead if that offends anyone but it's the closest thing I could think of)

Keebler
Jul 11, 2008, 04:57 PM
I've lost a lot of respect for the guy over the last few seasons. He has dragged this retirement deal on for too long.

i don't get your frustration mac? i'm not a packers fan, but if the guy wants to keep playing...so be it. he had a great year last season and he's still a good QB. The passion of the game obviously hasn't left him so who cares?

If anything, I respect him asking for his release b/c it's not fair to the Packers for him to wait so long as they have moved in another direction (Aaron Rodgers). Let them progress and let him find another team.

It's easy for us arm chair players to sit back and criticize, but think...football is THEIR LIFE. It's hard to imagine it unless you've done it, but think of something you've done for a long, long time (ie. like maybe using mac and apple products) - what is suddenly you had to stop completely? How would that make you feel? I know it would drive me nuts.

I know of some local NHL'ers and some of them won't even have a 'retirement' party b/c they are still hoping to play. These guys live their sports 365 days a year, even with their days off.

I can't imagine it's easy at all to walk away (unless you've suffered a career ending injury).

I wish him the best of luck. The vikings would be a good team - they're up and coming with their running back being so good, it will take pressure off Favre.

But in the end, it's just football :)

FF_productions
Jul 11, 2008, 05:22 PM
Sad to see Favre go...I'm not a Packer fan...I'm a rabid Bears fan but I have respect for him. Hopefully he avoids the NFC north as far as new teams go.

zioxide
Jul 11, 2008, 08:43 PM
Ugh. Just retire already.

150hp
Jul 11, 2008, 11:23 PM
Great. Just what I need. More Farve talk up here.

Just stay retired already...

benlee
Jul 11, 2008, 11:27 PM
i don't get your frustration mac? i'm not a packers fan, but if the guy wants to keep playing...so be it. he had a great year last season and he's still a good QB. The passion of the game obviously hasn't left him so who cares?

If anything, I respect him asking for his release b/c it's not fair to the Packers for him to wait so long as they have moved in another direction (Aaron Rodgers). Let them progress and let him find another team.

It's easy for us arm chair players to sit back and criticize, but think...football is THEIR LIFE. It's hard to imagine it unless you've done it, but think of something you've done for a long, long time (ie. like maybe using mac and apple products) - what is suddenly you had to stop completely? How would that make you feel? I know it would drive me nuts.

I know of some local NHL'ers and some of them won't even have a 'retirement' party b/c they are still hoping to play. These guys live their sports 365 days a year, even with their days off.

I can't imagine it's easy at all to walk away (unless you've suffered a career ending injury).

I wish him the best of luck. The vikings would be a good team - they're up and coming with their running back being so good, it will take pressure off Favre.

But in the end, it's just football :)

Very well said. Couldn't agree more.

iJon
Jul 12, 2008, 12:44 PM
i don't get your frustration mac? i'm not a packers fan, but if the guy wants to keep playing...so be it. he had a great year last season and he's still a good QB. The passion of the game obviously hasn't left him so who cares?

If anything, I respect him asking for his release b/c it's not fair to the Packers for him to wait so long as they have moved in another direction (Aaron Rodgers). Let them progress and let him find another team.

It's easy for us arm chair players to sit back and criticize, but think...football is THEIR LIFE. It's hard to imagine it unless you've done it, but think of something you've done for a long, long time (ie. like maybe using mac and apple products) - what is suddenly you had to stop completely? How would that make you feel? I know it would drive me nuts.

I know of some local NHL'ers and some of them won't even have a 'retirement' party b/c they are still hoping to play. These guys live their sports 365 days a year, even with their days off.

I can't imagine it's easy at all to walk away (unless you've suffered a career ending injury).

I wish him the best of luck. The vikings would be a good team - they're up and coming with their running back being so good, it will take pressure off Favre.

But in the end, it's just football :)
Great post. Even though he might suck and go out in flames like when Jordan went to the Wizards or Karl Malone went to the Lakers, if he wants to play then let him play.

jon

zioxide
Jul 12, 2008, 02:10 PM
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- The Green Bay Packers' general manager and coach say they don't plan to grant Brett Favre's request for his release.

GM Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy told The Associated Press on Saturday that the star quarterback was welcome to rejoin the team but would have to be a backup

ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3484473)

ucfgrad93
Jul 12, 2008, 08:47 PM
I think he should just stay retired. Enjoy the accolades of a great career.

macfan881
Jul 13, 2008, 01:28 AM
ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3484473)

the news today is a Huge Slap in the face to brett farve from the packers im not a packers fan but i just felt this totally insulting to a guy whos done so much i mean whats the harm of leting the guy go he's baiscly carryed Greenbay for 10 + years packers owe him alot and to say you can be a back up to a unproven nobody i hope this turns around and kicks green bay in the rear.

jemeinc
Jul 14, 2008, 02:04 AM
the news today is a Huge Slap in the face to brett farve from the packers im not a packers fan but i just felt this totally insulting to a guy whos done so much i mean whats the harm of leting the guy go he's baiscly carryed Greenbay for 10 + years packers owe him alot and to say you can be a back up to a unproven nobody i hope this turns around and kicks green bay in the rear.

They didn't say that he would be the backup.. In the article you linked Thompson is quoted as saying:


"It's not accurate," Thompson said of the AP report that Favre would come back as a backup. "We don't know what role that would be. He can come back as an active member of the Green Bay Packers."

Theres a lot of incorrect information circulating this whole drama.. The Packers don't owe Favre anything- they've provided him with a life far beyond anyones wildest dreams.. They stuck with him thru those absolutely HORRIBLE seasons..

I'm a Favre fan, but he's NOT blameless in this.. The Packers can't just cut him- that's crazy.. They'll either let him play, or trade him somewhere they deem safe.. Chicago, or Minnesota is definitely NOT an option for them..

jemeinc
Jul 14, 2008, 02:08 AM
Great post. Even though he might suck and go out in flames like when Jordan went to the Wizards or Karl Malone went to the Lakers, if he wants to play then let him play.

jon


Jordan didn't suck with the Wizards.. They didn't win- but it wasn't because of him as a player.. It could've been because of him as personnel guy, but that's another story.. As a player he was still better than the rest of the NBA most nights.. He was just a 39 year old guy diving for loose balls with a bunch of young punks who didn't have the same passion he did..

janstett
Jul 14, 2008, 08:58 AM
particularly after playing only for the Packers over his entire career

* Favre was drafted by the Atlanta Falcons in 1991 and traded to Green Bay in 1992.

And I was so happy to see the last pass of his career complete to Cory Webster.

http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/files/cache/corey-webster-2007-nfc-championship-ot-interception-vertical-8x10-photo_be3809750a491482630ce9ff662a75cc.jpg

I have been a Favre fan (when not playing the Giants) and it's just time for him to go and wait for the call from Canton. He has jerked the Packers around the last couple of years with the will-he-or-won't-he nonsense and that made me lose a little respect. Now retiring and un-retiring adds some taint to the picture.

Come on Brett, this is like Ronnie Lott to the Jets or Jerry Rice with the Raiders. Just sit home and join Michael Strahan on the Fox Pregame Show.

rhett7660
Jul 14, 2008, 03:49 PM
What a way to come back. I think he should just stay put and enjoy watching the game..... ugh

jomams
Jul 14, 2008, 03:53 PM
favre's been interviewed this morning. it is scheduled to air live on fox news channel 9-10pm cst

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

QuantumLo0p
Jul 14, 2008, 08:11 PM
Please, no drama.

Goodbye.

:D

idyll
Jul 14, 2008, 11:20 PM
Hope it ain't so

AliensAreFuzzy
Jul 15, 2008, 11:19 AM
Ted Thompson is treading VERY thin ice. If Rodgers gets hurt (which he has pretty much every time he's played) and Favre was released or traded to another team, there is nowhere on Earth he can hide from rabid Packer fans calling for his head.

ProwlingTiger
Jul 15, 2008, 11:25 AM
I'm no Green Bay fan, but I admire Favre. He is one player that I truly believe wants to play for the game, and not the money. One of the best quarterbacks in NFL history perhaps, aching to play some more. Physically, he still has some years to go. The last game? Yeah, it sucked. But he's still Favre.

Now the Packers GM is in a pickle. They should just give him the release. Aaron Rodgers needs to see some playing time, and there are plenty of other teams that lack a dedicated quarterback.

He'll be back.

Keebler
Aug 3, 2008, 05:49 PM
Great post. Even though he might suck and go out in flames like when Jordan went to the Wizards or Karl Malone went to the Lakers, if he wants to play then let him play.

jon

ok. now i have a beef with the favre situation. not at favre b/c of my above comments, but maybe at the packers for not granting him a release.

if that is true and if i were aaron rodgers, I would want to be using the GM's noggin' as a punching bag. There may be reasons for not releasing him (ie to a divisional rival), but man oh man, what does this say to Aaron Rodgers? The pack don't want him? maybe the Pack are trying to boost Favre's trade value?

i don't know, but it sucks for Rodgers. that much i know.

rhett7660
Aug 3, 2008, 07:01 PM
Well it looks like he is staying in green bay....... and he wants to play QB.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcnorth/0-3-16/Will-this-be-a-fair-fight-.html

63dot
Aug 7, 2008, 09:48 AM
Favre may now play for the NY Jets.

This could be good news but I don't think at his age he can make as great a contribution to that team. The team will improve with him, but they will be getting killed by the pats.

jemeinc
Aug 7, 2008, 11:54 AM
ok. now i have a beef with the favre situation. not at favre b/c of my above comments, but maybe at the packers for not granting him a release.

if that is true and if i were aaron rodgers, I would want to be using the GM's noggin' as a punching bag. There may be reasons for not releasing him (ie to a divisional rival), but man oh man, what does this say to Aaron Rodgers? The pack don't want him? maybe the Pack are trying to boost Favre's trade value?

i don't know, but it sucks for Rodgers. that much i know.

It says that they have an asset that they're willing to part with- but not give away.. Noone would just give something that has any value away- that'd be crazy.. I agree this was a tough situation for Rodgers, but not for the reasons you mention..

raythemoneyman
Aug 7, 2008, 12:17 PM
CNBC is saying the Jets, do they mean the New York Jets? :eek: Just retire man!

powderblue17
Aug 7, 2008, 12:51 PM
I don't have a problem if Favre wants to keep playing but this guy is such a drama queen. It's like he retired but couldn't stand not having his name in the media all the time and people kissing his ass continuously so he had to come back because his ego is to big to not have that. Now we'll get more ESPN broadcasts of Favre playing with the Jets and it will be nothing but the commentators constantly showing 3 hours of man love for Favre while not even calling the action in the game or mentioning any other player on the field.

thechidz
Aug 7, 2008, 01:08 PM
its on espn right now. how can I get some jets tickets???

iShater
Aug 7, 2008, 01:13 PM
Wisconsin is in mourning. :rolleyes:

thechidz
Aug 7, 2008, 01:14 PM
having grown up in wisconsin watching brett play for the packers, this just seems surreal. This is going to be worse than watching Montana play for the chiefs. my only solace is that perhaps Ill be able to see him play a few times out here on the right coast.

thechidz
Aug 7, 2008, 01:15 PM
Wisconsin is in mourning. :rolleyes:

well, maybe not as bad as when Dit-Ka retired for you guys:p

iShater
Aug 7, 2008, 01:16 PM
well, maybe not as bad as when Dit-Ka retired for you guys:p

They are still talking about that. :D

atszyman
Aug 7, 2008, 01:21 PM
I don't know.

I'm as big a Packer fan as the next Wisconsinite, but I don't really feel all that bad.

Favre is getting older, we've been putting off our rebuilding season(s) for about 5 years now. Don't get me wrong, Favre is still one of the best QBs playing the game right now, but unless the Jets have a strong coach that's willing to stand up and push Favre you'll be looking at performance like the latter Mike Sherman years in Green Bay.

I think the whole debacle could have been handled better on all sides, and management managed to colossally f-up the whole situation, but I don't necessarily think of this as a bad thing. Management should have just let Favre come back and compete for the starting QB position and opened up the door for trading if he didn't want that. In all probability he would have been the starter if the goal was to win games and last year he showed that the team had good chemistry. Now Favre has to start all over with a new team and it most likely will not be pretty.

Rodgers did really well against the Cowboys last year when Favre got hurt, and if he can manage to make 2 games in a row without getting hurt in practice he might do an OK job with the team this year.

I loved watching Favre play and will probably watch more than a few Jets games this year, but it will be nice for the first time to not have my heart ripped out when we're down by 3 with less than 2 minutes left and he throws an interception into double coverage. I might actually be able to laugh at it now.:D

ProwlingTiger
Aug 7, 2008, 01:41 PM
I can't wait for Rodgers to bomb and Ted Thompson to turn into the fool of the year. No...decade.

Seriously, Favre would have gave the Packers the best chance at winning. But Ted didn't want him. So, here we are.

Now the Jets are shaping to be a good team. They have to play New England, but they've got a great shot now. Have you seen their draft picks? All they needed was a quarterback.

And the Jets started taking preorders for Brett's jersey around midnight my time! I'm definitely going to the Chiefs vs Jets game now.

~Shard~
Aug 7, 2008, 01:44 PM
Reminds me of Montana's move to KC at the end of his career. Why don't these guys know when to call it quits? :confused: There have been so many players that have been shuffled around to 2 or 3 teams during their final twilight years. I don't see what's wrong with quitting at the top of your game. I initially thought Favre was smart for doing just that, but then this whole "unretirement" fiasco changed all that. :rolleyes:

ProwlingTiger
Aug 7, 2008, 01:51 PM
I think he was thinking if he could come back to GB he could grab a superbowl ring before calling it quits for good. They were so close, and could have made it I think.

That's not to say he doesn't have a chance with the Jets. Favre is one player who should be able to play until his stats drop significantly. He's still got years on him still.

gonyr
Aug 7, 2008, 01:52 PM
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If you couldn't tell, I think this is a good move.

63dot
Aug 7, 2008, 02:41 PM
I don't have a problem if Favre wants to keep playing but this guy is such a drama queen. It's like he retired but couldn't stand not having his name in the media all the time and people kissing his ass continuously so he had to come back because his ego is to big to not have that. Now we'll get more ESPN broadcasts of Favre playing with the Jets and it will be nothing but the commentators constantly showing 3 hours of man love for Favre while not even calling the action in the game or mentioning any other player on the field.

Some years ago, people thought Joe Montana should retire a 49er because he was old. But when he was with the Kansas City Chiefs, he did quite well and even helped take the team to the AFC Conference championship game. I think Favre has the ability to help take the Jets to the playoffs for at least three more years. I still don't see a superbowl of course, but it will be fun to see him outperform the young kid QBs who may have more on the ball physically, but not have the wisdom of Favre.

I like how he adjusted from a very fast pass to a favorite receiver and also running the ball, to a more varied form of arsenal where he would take his time and play more strategically. He can't fire a ball to a receiver among a bunch of defenders like he used to, but he has improved field vision and plays a lot more like Steve Young or Joe Montana in their heyday.

I think the Jets will do what the Broncos of the late '90s did with an old Elway. The Jets, like the late-90s Broncos, should develop an all around offense and rely more on running the ball. In later years, Elway did not pass as much but he still got two superbowl rings which eluded him in his three previous attempts when he was the most prolific passer.

The key to Favre being successful would be to not rely too much on his passing game and work the running game. What cannot be left to chance is injury at his age. Favre needs options and a new style of football in order to maximize who is he at his age.

That being said, he still may simply be too old to successfully compete anymore as a starting quarterback. In recent years, Brad Johnson started for Dallas at age 38 but lost the top spot. Favre can potentially be the oldest starting QB at 39 if he starts well and maintains in the first couple of months.

At the very least, Favre can be a backup and still be an asset. Testaverde set a record and won a game when he was 43 and I think Favre is the better player through a long career.

tmelvin
Aug 7, 2008, 02:45 PM
Eh..it'll sell tickets. He's never played in a NY/Boston market, so he's in for a real treat. When he throws 2 TD's the crowd will cheer, and love him. When he throws 2 picks in a game, and they lose by 2 TD's the crowd will boo him, and hold up signs saying he sucks, and let the rookie play...

He and Manpen!$ will clash. The coach is a lot like Belichick; control. He won't stand for Favre to just whip the ball around.

My take; he'll start, Jets will go 6-10 at best, and Favre will be gone next season.

mondesi43
Aug 7, 2008, 02:48 PM
Reminds me of Montana's move to KC at the end of his career. Why don't these guys know when to call it quits? :confused: There have been so many players that have been shuffled around to 2 or 3 teams during their final twilight years. I don't see what's wrong with quitting at the top of your game. I initially thought Favre was smart for doing just that, but then this whole "unretirement" fiasco changed all that. :rolleyes:

Emmitt Smith
Jerry Rice
Ronnie Lott
Tony Dorsett
Johnny Unitas
OJ Simpson

All should have quit before they were told to leave. Nobody remembers the 'other' teams they played with.

~Shard~
Aug 7, 2008, 02:50 PM
Emmitt Smith
Jerry Rice
Ronnie Lott
Tony Dorsett
Johnny Unitas
OJ Simpson

All should have quit before they were told to leave. Nobody remembers the 'other' teams they played with.

Thank you - exactly my point. :cool:

atszyman
Aug 7, 2008, 02:51 PM
I can't wait for Rodgers to bomb and Ted Thompson to turn into the fool of the year. No...decade.

Seriously, Favre would have gave the Packers the best chance at winning. But Ted didn't want him. So, here we are.

Now the Jets are shaping to be a good team. They have to play New England, but they've got a great shot now. Have you seen their draft picks? All they needed was a quarterback.

And the Jets started taking preorders for Brett's jersey around midnight my time! I'm definitely going to the Chiefs vs Jets game now.

I think both teams are in for a bit of a struggle this year. Favre's starting out with a new coach, offense and receivers with which he has no history. The Packers are moving into a rebuilding phase but Rodger's durability will probably be an issue.

Of course Favre isn't getting any younger either and if the Jet's offensive line has any weaknesses we may see the end of the started games streak.

I don't doubt that Favre would have been the Packers best chance to win, and management should have just welcomed him back but maybe leave the option open to not start him should Rodgers or another QB show up and perform very well in training camp, but I honestly don't feel too bad about losing him either. The retirement question has come up for so long around Favre that it's almost a relief to know that even though we would probably be better with him this year, at least we know it's time to start rebuilding, and we have a young team with which to do it.

Counterfit
Aug 7, 2008, 03:08 PM
As a Cowboys fan, this is good. No Favre until the SuperBowl.
As a kinda-sorta-Pats fan, this could also be good, I guess.

thechidz
Aug 7, 2008, 03:20 PM
As a Cowboys fan, this is good. No Favre until the SuperBowl.
As a kinda-sorta-Pats fan, this could also be good, I guess.

a kinda sorta pats fan???:rolleyes:

blasphemy:p

iShater
Aug 7, 2008, 03:23 PM
Imagine if Favre came to Chicago :eek: :p

zioxide
Aug 7, 2008, 03:23 PM
ugh, of all the ****ing teams to go to, he has to go to the jets.

**** the jets.

xlii
Aug 7, 2008, 03:28 PM
Please retitle this thread...

"The Official waiting for JET SuperBowl Tickets Thread"

THX

thechidz
Aug 7, 2008, 03:57 PM
Im actually agreeing with an earlier poster and am getting pretty excited about brett coming to NYC because I wont have to be completely crushed if he bombs a few picks, of course Id love to see him play great as well. Im going to try to pick up some tickets. this should be a fun football season in NY this year

bobr1952
Aug 7, 2008, 03:57 PM
I was hoping for a move to the Sunshine State...

benmrii
Aug 7, 2008, 04:19 PM
This still blows my mind.

I completely understand, as atszyman said, the idea that at some point you have to commit to rebuilding. At some point you need to let the aging boss spend a little less time with a helmet and a little more time with a clipboard yelling at the new guy. But it's moronic to assume that Green Bay is at that point.

He is one of the all-time great quarterbacks. Not just an all star, an all-time great all star. He holds the record for most consecutive starts for any quarterback in history with 253. Oh, and that's 93 more than the next closest guy and, oh, all 253 of them were with the Packers.

And last season certainly doesn't provide any reason to let him go. The Packers go 13-3, their season ending in the NFC Championship game, in overtime, to the eventual Super Bowl champions.

So Green Bay wants to go another direction. They want to take the ball out of the hands of a legend who led their team to the cusp of the Super Bowl as recently as last season, who has played every game of his storied career there, to start Aaron Rodgers ... who has never started an NFL game in his two and a half years in the NFL after a mediocre college career.

Simply asinine. The resentful jerk part of me hopes this bites them in the arse. Hard.

ProwlingTiger
Aug 7, 2008, 04:22 PM
This still blows my mind.

I completely understand, as atszyman said, the idea that at some point you have to commit to rebuilding. At some point you need to let the aging boss spend a little less time with a helmet and a little more time with a clipboard yelling at the new guy. But it's moronic to assume that Green Bay is at that point.

He is one of the all-time great quarterbacks. Not just an all star, an all-time great all star. He holds the record for most consecutive starts for any quarterback in history with 253. Oh, and that's 93 more than the next closest guy and, oh, all 253 of them were with the Packers.

And last season certainly doesn't provide any reason to let him go. The Packers go 13-3, their season ending in the NFC Championship game, in overtime, to the eventual Super Bowl champions.

So Green Bay wants to go another direction. They want to take the ball out of the hands of a legend who led their team to the cusp of the Super Bowl as recently as last season, who has played every game of his storied career there, to start Aaron Rodgers ... who has never started an NFL game in his two and a half years in the NFL after a mediocre college career.

Simply asinine. The resentful jerk part of me hopes this bites them in the arse. Hard.

My feelings too.

I'd love to see a Packers vs Jets superbowl game this year, just so Favre can stick it to them some more. Unfortunately the Packers aren't going to make it without Favre.

atszyman
Aug 7, 2008, 05:20 PM
This still blows my mind.

I completely understand, as atszyman said, the idea that at some point you have to commit to rebuilding. At some point you need to let the aging boss spend a little less time with a helmet and a little more time with a clipboard yelling at the new guy. But it's moronic to assume that Green Bay is at that point.

He is one of the all-time great quarterbacks. Not just an all star, an all-time great all star. He holds the record for most consecutive starts for any quarterback in history with 253. Oh, and that's 93 more than the next closest guy and, oh, all 253 of them were with the Packers.

And last season certainly doesn't provide any reason to let him go. The Packers go 13-3, their season ending in the NFC Championship game, in overtime, to the eventual Super Bowl champions.

So Green Bay wants to go another direction. They want to take the ball out of the hands of a legend who led their team to the cusp of the Super Bowl as recently as last season, who has played every game of his storied career there, to start Aaron Rodgers ... who has never started an NFL game in his two and a half years in the NFL after a mediocre college career.

Simply asinine. The resentful jerk part of me hopes this bites them in the arse. Hard.

As I said, Favre would have been the Pack's most likely candidate for winning the most games and had management not f-d everything up and just let him come and try out to be the starting QB (just in case he let himself go in his "retirement") the whole media debacle. However Favre is never going to be a "stand on the sidelines with a clipboard and yell at the new kid" kind of player. He's a player who has natural ability and would not make a great mentor due to all the crap he pulls that seems to work for him (most of the time) but would not be good habits for a newer player to start learning.

In recent seasons his starting streak has almost been broken by injuries sustained during the games. In 2004 he narrowly avoided such an injury when he was injured in a game with the Redskins the week before their bye week. He won't be indestructible forever and he almost broke his streak after the Cowboys game last year. I predict that the streak will end this year as the adjustment pains of the new offense work their way out.

I've been one of Favre's biggest advocates for coming back every year, I want to see him do well, unfortunately due to the handling of this whole situation he has become more of a disruptive force than a team leader and with such animosity between him and management I'm not sure that he would have been the same kind of leader and team player in the locker room that he has been in the past. If this wasn't the best year for Green Bay to show him the door, the circus surrounding his return pretty much ruined it due to failures of Green Bay management and Favre himself.

Rodgers did very well last year in the clash of the titans game of Dallas vs Green Bay, and I think he will do OK this year. Maybe not a division title, but the Pack should at least have a mediocre year, and I actually don't expect much better from the Jets as Favre and the team adjust to each other.

It's surreal to watch a completely different fan base defending and rejoicing that Favre is going to be their QB. I admit he's a football legend and even past his prime he's still one of the best QBs playing the game today, and while I'd rather see him in the green and gold I'll wish him the best and keep rooting for the Pack, but realistically neither team has much of a shot at the big game this year.

ProwlingTiger
Aug 7, 2008, 05:24 PM
Gah....I gotta find where to watch the introduction of Favre....

thechidz
Aug 7, 2008, 06:55 PM
why the hell was my thread merged with this one mods??? they are completely different event...

fotografica
Aug 7, 2008, 07:31 PM
Please retitle this thread...

"The Official waiting for JET SuperBowl Tickets Thread"

THX
Tell me about it.Reading some of the fan message boards and hearing some call up the talk shows,it sounded like they had already got their plane tickets to Tampa..
Not to mention that Man kinda smart's nads are on the line this year and possibly Tannebaum's as well..They spent a boat load of money this offseason and anything short of a playoff appearance will be a disappointment...

FF_productions
Aug 7, 2008, 07:32 PM
This still blows my mind.

I completely understand, as atszyman said, the idea that at some point you have to commit to rebuilding. At some point you need to let the aging boss spend a little less time with a helmet and a little more time with a clipboard yelling at the new guy. But it's moronic to assume that Green Bay is at that point.

He is one of the all-time great quarterbacks. Not just an all star, an all-time great all star. He holds the record for most consecutive starts for any quarterback in history with 253. Oh, and that's 93 more than the next closest guy and, oh, all 253 of them were with the Packers.

And last season certainly doesn't provide any reason to let him go. The Packers go 13-3, their season ending in the NFC Championship game, in overtime, to the eventual Super Bowl champions.

So Green Bay wants to go another direction. They want to take the ball out of the hands of a legend who led their team to the cusp of the Super Bowl as recently as last season, who has played every game of his storied career there, to start Aaron Rodgers ... who has never started an NFL game in his two and a half years in the NFL after a mediocre college career.

Simply asinine. The resentful jerk part of me hopes this bites them in the arse. Hard.

I'm going off of what a radio guy said and I took his side on this matter.

If Brett had unretired himself 2 weeks after retiring, the Packers would have no problem.

But, Brett waited until Preseason to make his comeback. Why should they juggle the franchise around him?

The trade was strange, and I hope for the best out of him with the Jets.

swiftaw
Aug 7, 2008, 07:34 PM
The Jets aren't going to the Superbowl. Heck, they might not even make the playoffs. They are already going to have to settle for the wildcard, cos they aren't going to win the division.

ProwlingTiger
Aug 7, 2008, 07:50 PM
why the hell was my thread merged with this one mods??? they are completely different event...
That was what I was wondering. But I guess they're somewhat related. Perhaps the thread should be retitled.

Gray-Wolf
Aug 7, 2008, 07:55 PM
Maybe with the guy going to the Jets?:rolleyes:

MacNut
Aug 7, 2008, 10:38 PM
My feelings too.

I'd love to see a Packers vs Jets superbowl game this year, just so Favre can stick it to them some more. Unfortunately the Packers aren't going to make it without Favre.They didn't make it with Farve last year, what makes you think they would of done it this year.

Chairman Plow
Aug 7, 2008, 11:40 PM
Ah well... better change the cover.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj217/hustlinbeatz/misc/NewMaddencover.jpg

ProwlingTiger
Aug 8, 2008, 12:14 AM
They didn't make it with Farve last year, what makes you think they would of done it this year.

Talent. Skill. One more run. The Giants, had a date with destiny I guess, and no one could stop them. This year coulda been the dream year for Packers fans.

ROFL....yeah that cover will be on '10 XD

63dot
Aug 8, 2008, 12:40 AM
Something to buy today. I think he should take the number 38 for his age. :)

MacNut
Aug 8, 2008, 12:51 AM
Talent. Skill. One more run. The Giants, had a date with destiny I guess, and no one could stop them. This year coulda been the dream year for Packers fans.Farve's best shot was last year. He is not getting any younger. How many good Packer teams has Farve been on and how many rings did he get.

ProwlingTiger
Aug 8, 2008, 02:15 AM
Something to buy today. I think he should take the number 38 for his age. :)

Um, I'll take the #4 version ;)


Oh, there is going to be an update for the Madden 09 game, optional of course, to make Favre a Jet. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,399822,00.html

I think Favre played excellent last season, just one off game where it mattered.

benmrii
Aug 8, 2008, 09:02 AM
I'm going off of what a radio guy said and I took his side on this matter.

If Brett had unretired himself 2 weeks after retiring, the Packers would have no problem.

But, Brett waited until Preseason to make his comeback. Why should they juggle the franchise around him?

The trade was strange, and I hope for the best out of him with the Jets.

The awkwardness of his return is far outweighed by his capabilities. And a franchise whose offense is built around someone isn't "juggled" when, weeks before camp starts, that someone decides to return. Green Bay's "franchise" is Brett Farve, almost as much as it is
http://www.thedocisin.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/02/cheesehead.jpg

The Packers wouldn't have to let anyone go or work to fit him in under the salary cap. They didn't go out and get a superstar to replace him. They didn't make any sweeping changes to the offense. It was weeks before the Packers' camp began, much less preseason. And Farve is far from disliked by the majority of Green Bay fans, even in the midst of this he is revered.

If any one of those were true, I might begin to agree with the "radio guy," but none of them are. A definite negative would be the sulking of the quarterback who looked to get his first start years before most of his comparably qualified colleagues ever do, but that's so sensationally minor in comparison that I still just can't fathom this.

janstett
Aug 8, 2008, 09:33 AM
its on espn right now. how can I get some jets tickets???

Believe it or not, the Jets have a waiting list that's something like 7-10 years last I've heard. Those poor sufferring bastards have something to look forward to now.

janstett
Aug 8, 2008, 09:35 AM
having grown up in wisconsin watching brett play for the packers, this just seems surreal. This is going to be worse than watching Montana play for the chiefs. my only solace is that perhaps Ill be able to see him play a few times out here on the right coast.

THE TIME MACHINE
Screenplay by Joe A

SCENE: NYC, September 2007

A stranger in a trenchcoach and glasses walks up to a random sports fan on the street

STRANGER: Pssst, hey you, come here. I got a tip for you. Eli Manning will play in the SuperBowl and beat the undefeated Patriots there, winning SB MVP. And Brett Favre will be a Jet.

SPORTS FAN: Yeah right, buddy... Can you share some of that crack?

janstett
Aug 8, 2008, 09:39 AM
Reminds me of Montana's move to KC at the end of his career. Why don't these guys know when to call it quits? :confused:

The Jets have a long history of this sort of stuff, second only to the Raiders.

Boomer Esiason when he was washed out in Cincy, Ronnie Lott when he was done with the 49ers, Art Mon when he was done with the Skins, come to mind...

atszyman
Aug 8, 2008, 10:10 AM
I think Favre played excellent last season, just one off game where it mattered.

Yes he did play excellently last year, however the game he lost, he lost in the same fashion that's been becoming more common for him with a dubious pass into a covered receiver that ends up getting intercepted.

He was also on a team that he knew well and it was his second year with that coach.

I have to say it's a bit surreal to watch a different fan base jump on the Favre band wagon and defend his every move. This year is going to be an adjustment year for Favre and the Jets as the Favre adjusts to the new coaches and offense. If he stays there a couple years he might get them to the playoffs but only as long as his age doesn't creep up too fast.

He was 13-3 with the Pack last year, two of those losses were to the Bears and they ended up losing the playoffs in an OT loss the the Super Bowl Champs. His best chance for a ring was in GB but GB management and Favre burned too many bridges in this whole mess.

He may have one more Super Bowl run left in him with the right team, and that team may be the Jets, but I don't think it will be this year.

Of course I have been wrong in the past.

fotografica
Aug 8, 2008, 10:58 AM
I think Favre played excellent last season, just one off game where it mattered.

That's like saying,"Other than that Mrs. Lincoln,how was the play?"
People remember what you do in the big game,when it matters most and when the chips are down.The Pat's O line played their worst game when it mattered most..Nobody is going to remember that three of them went to the Pro Bowl..
I think part of Favre "unretiring" is the fact that he didn't want his last image on the football field being his wounded duck to Corey Webster. Which for him, he seems to be launching those in the last several post seasons. But to the Jets??Vikings,I could see,esp w/Adrian Peterson in the backfield.

63dot
Aug 9, 2008, 12:17 AM
The Jets have a long history of this sort of stuff, second only to the Raiders.

Boomer Esiason when he was washed out in Cincy, Ronnie Lott when he was done with the 49ers, Art Mon when he was done with the Skins, come to mind...

Ronnie Lott went to the Super Bowl with the Raiders which is much better than most can claim.

There were a lot of teams in the AFC who would have wanted to take on Tampa Bay. Lott was still a very good player.

thechidz
Aug 9, 2008, 12:31 AM
Believe it or not, the Jets have a waiting list that's something like 7-10 years last I've heard. Those poor sufferring bastards have something to look forward to now.
well it looks like they have a system to sell tickets between people on there website. there are some available last I looked. Theres also craigslist, maybe Ill see if I can score some last minute

fotografica
Aug 9, 2008, 05:25 PM
They've sold out every game since their days at Shea. They'll sell all of the seats at their new digs even without Favre. The stadium won't even be ready for a couple of more years, and odds are Favre will be re-retired by then ;)