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Edrubin
Jul 11, 2008, 04:40 PM
So I have downloaded the free trial version of mobileme. The push calendar and contacts is nice, but the email is a joke. The only way to get push email for my 4 email addresses is to have them forwarded to me me.com email. The problem with that is I can then not reply using my other emails and can only reply using me.com. Why would apple limit it that way? This sucks...I was so excited, but glad I got the trial version first.

Eddie



ee99ee
Jul 11, 2008, 04:57 PM
Give them the weekend, try next week. They'll work bugs out.

I'm such a mac fan boy. If this were Microsoft, I would have thrown my PCs (of which I have none) out the window and be running Linux. Aren't we all pathetic hypocrites? Isn't it great? haha... :D

Kilamite
Jul 11, 2008, 05:00 PM
Push Email is from Apple servers - the other 4 email accounts, whoever hosts them is responsible for providing Push Email support.

I'm sure any other bugs will be ironed out by Monday.

Edrubin
Jul 11, 2008, 05:01 PM
SO I talked to a guy at apple. The only way to get push email is through the @me.com email. You can not set up any other emails to receive push. They can only be forwarded to @me.com to get the push feature. This sucks because if you forward them to @me.com you can't reply from the specific email.

tivoboy
Jul 11, 2008, 05:08 PM
certainly, in the future they will upgrade MM to allow a "reply from" address field change and authentication.

fat phil
Jul 11, 2008, 05:08 PM
Been a while since I've used mail forwarding, but is the original email address not stored in the mail header?

If so, then it should be fairly trivial for Apple to support reply-to's inherited from the forwarded mail.

So easy to say it when you don't have to do it heh. :)

EricNau
Jul 11, 2008, 05:10 PM
SO I talked to a guy at apple. The only way to get push email is through the @me.com email. You can not set up any other emails to receive push. They can only be forwarded to @me.com to get the push feature. This sucks because if you forward them to @me.com you can't reply from the specific email.
Naturally. Apple only has control over their servers; they can't control the servers of your other email providers, and never promised to.

cwosigns
Jul 11, 2008, 05:19 PM
So I have downloaded the free trial version of mobileme. The push calendar and contacts is nice, but the email is a joke. The only way to get push email for my 4 email addresses is to have them forwarded to me me.com email. The problem with that is I can then not reply using my other emails and can only reply using me.com. Why would apple limit it that way? This sucks...I was so excited, but glad I got the trial version first.

Eddie

I don't understand why people who have non-Mac email addresses get so upset and blame APPLE because their email isn't pushed to their iPhone. Apple didn't limit anything; they designed a solution for THEIR email service. It's not Apple's fault that your other four email accounts don't push to your iPhone. Yahoo made it happen.

And Apple never stated anywhere that MobileMe would enable your other email accounts to get pushed to the iPhone.

rtmadden
Jul 11, 2008, 05:28 PM
Is it not possible to use a different outgoing server?

tivoboy
Jul 11, 2008, 05:32 PM
Been a while since I've used mail forwarding, but is the original email address not stored in the mail header?

If so, then it should be fairly trivial for Apple to support reply-to's inherited from the forwarded mail.

So easy to say it when you don't have to do it heh. :)

It isn't a problem of know what the email address is, it is a question of being able to authenticate for the SMTP server for that other mail account.

cwosigns
Jul 11, 2008, 05:36 PM
This was posted in another thread:

Another one - the ability to select which Mail account you want to send from in each email, regardless of the account/mailbox you're in at the time - very useful!

Which got me thinking...if you get MobileMe and have it push .me email to your account, you can set your other email accounts to forward to MobileMe and NOT leave a copy on the server (if your provider allows this). Then when you reply, you could choose whatever email account the email was sent to and it would use that account to send your reply.

Would that work for you?

I've just always used .Mac and don't need a workaround.

Sky Blue
Jul 11, 2008, 05:43 PM
SO I talked to a guy at apple. The only way to get push email is through the @me.com email. You can not set up any other emails to receive push.

Of course, you can't. How would Apple be responsible for other email server? That makes no sense.

GuillaumeB
Jul 11, 2008, 06:04 PM
An alternative for you is to purchase Yahoo Mail Plus which give you push but also let you set up an external email address within the webmail AS WELL AS a from-line customization

Also with mobileme you still are able to customize the SMTP settings on a desktop mail client or on the iPhone. I currently forward Google Apps to me.com and use my personal email address o compose messages.

Therefore this limitation is only for the web interface

tallyho
Jul 11, 2008, 06:13 PM
Therefore this limitation is only for the web interface
I haven't worked through the method you're using, but what happens to sent messages? Ideally what I'd like is for emails sent from my iPhone (once I get one) to appear in the sent messages folder on the web interface and Mail.app on my three macs, and vice-versa. Does your method achieve this, or is my only option to just resign myself to a complete switch to my new @me.com email address?

EDIT: and to answer the OPs question, I can only assume that Apple wants the @me.com addresses to be a sort of viral-marketing tool to promote their MobileMe service. I guess if they let people use other email addresses, nobody would know they are using MobileMe and Apple just can't do without the publicity. Annoying, but I guess that must be the reason.

NewGenAdam
Jul 11, 2008, 06:17 PM
I thought it automatically got the accounts loaded into Mail (OS X) and updated that to your iPhone. But it's not working for me. Which really sucks.
I'll give them a few days, but if it's still dodgy I'll be back to Google's fantastic suite of online apps.

EricNau
Jul 11, 2008, 06:22 PM
Is it not possible to use a different outgoing server?
You can, but not through Mobile Me. That would be like using a different outgoing server with Gmail ...it just doesn't make sense.

chancee
Jul 11, 2008, 09:04 PM
I don't understand why people who have non-Mac email addresses get so upset and blame APPLE because their email isn't pushed to their iPhone. Apple didn't limit anything; they designed a solution for THEIR email service. It's not Apple's fault that your other four email accounts don't push to your iPhone. Yahoo made it happen.

And Apple never stated anywhere that MobileMe would enable your other email accounts to get pushed to the iPhone.

Are you kidding?! Here, I'll explain why people were expecting this: because Apple made a big deal about Mobile Me being compatible with a PC and Outlook. Are we supposed to assume Apple thought there was just this huge subset of PC users who were dying to have a .mac/.me email address? Because if you're a PC user it's very doubtful you have or want a .me email address. Apple is delusional if they think PC users are going to be so wowed by Mobile Me that they pay 100 bucks a year to ditch the email addresses they've had for years and only use .Me

wolfpackfan
Jul 11, 2008, 09:06 PM
I am surprised how slow the web Mobile Me is. It is much slower than Gmail and Google Calendar. I hope this is just a temporary problem. If not, come 60 days and I'm canceling. The main reason I signed up was to use the web version and have it sync with my iPhone.

sananda
Jul 11, 2008, 09:07 PM
Are you kidding?! Here, I'll explain why people were expecting this: because Apple made a big deal about Mobile Me being compatible with a PC and Outlook. Are we supposed to assume Apple thought there was just this huge subset of PC users who were dying to have a .mac/.me email address? Because if you're a PC user it's very doubtful you have or want a .me email address. Apple is delusional if they think PC users are going to be so wowed by Mobile Me that they pay 100 bucks a year to ditch the email addresses they've had for years and only use .Me

that's a completely circular argument.

cwosigns
Jul 11, 2008, 10:06 PM
Are you kidding?! Here, I'll explain why people were expecting this: because Apple made a big deal about Mobile Me being compatible with a PC and Outlook. Are we supposed to assume Apple thought there was just this huge subset of PC users who were dying to have a .mac/.me email address? Because if you're a PC user it's very doubtful you have or want a .me email address. Apple is delusional if they think PC users are going to be so wowed by Mobile Me that they pay 100 bucks a year to ditch the email addresses they've had for years and only use .Me

And MobileMe is compatible with PCs and Outlook 2003/2007. For people to expect more than what it was advertised to be is stupidity on their part, not Apple's.

tomccabe
Jul 11, 2008, 10:09 PM
It isn't a problem of know what the email address is, it is a question of being able to authenticate for the SMTP server for that other mail account.

doesn't seem like much of a problem from the MM settings on the iphone. so it seems like the only reason you can't choose a send-from email is apple's ego as suggested above. i would gladly spend $99/yr on this if it was looking out for ME and not APPLE. all i've asked for as far as iphone updates have been to do the simple things that i thought i'd be able to do when i got rid of my BB.

thejokeson@me.com

obxbound
Jul 11, 2008, 10:11 PM
I am with you. Sorry, but its a JOKE!

I used Microsoft Exchange and this is NOT exchange for the rest of us. Its an overpriced piece of software.

tomccabe
Jul 11, 2008, 10:18 PM
I am with you. Sorry, but its a JOKE!

I used Microsoft Exchange and this is NOT exchange for the rest of us. Its an overpriced piece of software.

$100/yr to have your contacts, bookmarks and calendars synched LOL!! Sad, i was totally ready to pay that and money for more storage. no use to me now. they're going to have to get a lot more 3g's in stock to pay for this bomb.

slevit1
Jul 11, 2008, 11:14 PM
Some of you need to get over yourselves. If you don't like MobileMe, then don't sign up for it. You're buying an APPLE product in both the iPhone and MobileMe. If you don't like them, then look elsewhere. For now, there are very few (if any) ways for someone without an exchange server to get push e-mail, contacts, and calendar. Apple has provided that solution, for a fairly reasonable price.

Don't forget that MobileMe does an awful lot more than push services and e-mail. If, for some reason that is beyond me, you have decided to stick with using a PC, then you're just gonna have to deal with what Apple has given you...things they supply that no other company thus far has been able to figure out. But, for those with a mac (because again, this is an APPLE product that we're talking about), there are far more benefits to the service.

thechidz
Jul 11, 2008, 11:18 PM
I really have absolutely no need for mobile me with my iphone and mbp... but thats just me. it looks cool but I have more than enough functionality now... Im a happy camper

slevit1
Jul 11, 2008, 11:20 PM
$100/yr to have your contacts, bookmarks and calendars synched LOL!! Sad, i was totally ready to pay that and money for more storage. no use to me now. they're going to have to get a lot more 3g's in stock to pay for this bomb.

I'm just as upset as everyone else that everything is not yet working perfectly. However, I don't think that most people know (or care) about the scale of what has been happening for the past couple of days. You all need to seriously chill out.

Apple is in the middle of transitioning (and upgrading, for free) a service with countless users. At the same time, they are releasing brand new firmware to millions of iPhone customers, and having a worldwide launch of a brand new product, creating an even further strain on their system. And, the situation is made worse by the fact that the servers that were already having problems were being constantly hammered by people who couldn't wait for things to be properly fixed. Could it have gone better? Absolutely, and I wish it did. However, I would hardly call this a bomb, and I think this will wind up having a very trivial effect on their bottom line. For the handfull of customers that they may lose because of this, they're probably better off without them anyway!

Matthew Yohe
Jul 11, 2008, 11:27 PM
I'm just as upset as everyone else that everything is not yet working perfectly. However, I don't think that most people know (or care) about the scale of what has been happening for the past couple of days. You all need to seriously chill out.

Apple is in the middle of transitioning (and upgrading, for free) a service with countless users. At the same time, they are releasing brand new firmware to millions of iPhone customers, and having a worldwide launch of a brand new product, creating an even further strain on their system. And, the situation is made worse by the fact that the servers that were already having problems were being constantly hammered by people who couldn't wait for things to be properly fixed. Could it have gone better? Absolutely, and I wish it did. However, I would hardly call this a bomb, and I think this will wind up having a very trivial effect on their bottom line. For the handfull of customers that they may lose because of this, they're probably better off without them anyway!


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levitynyc
Jul 11, 2008, 11:38 PM
Doesnt Yahoo mail push?

slevit1
Jul 11, 2008, 11:40 PM
Doesnt Yahoo mail push?

yes, if you pay for it. It has from the start of the iPhone.

v88v00v
Jul 11, 2008, 11:56 PM
Just to inform people there are other solutions to having push email. I don't know if they work (because I can't test them) but if someone with an iPhone could sign up for the services then this could provide an alternative. I don't particularly like this though because in NO way can you compare the interface to what is offered with MobileMe. MobileMe gives you iDisk and all that stuff + a sleek looking interface.

If your still thinking MobileMe is a waste, here you go.

http://mail2web.com/ - Some site I found through a blog. Looks good, but I read that it has some limitations to using it with Outlook and other desktop email programs.
The blog - http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-professional-news/239853/free-push-email-too-good-to-be-true/

www.cortado.com/free - Another site that offers push email (but I was reading and it looks as though it does not work with ActiveSync, so if the iPhone only uses ActiveSync for the push email and no other protocol then I guess its useless)
The blog - http://athinkingman.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/free-push-email/

Note : I am in no way affiliated with these services / blogs, I just wanted to tell people that there are other services (these are some of the free ones, im sure there are better paid ones also).

Hope this helps.

Xtal
Jul 12, 2008, 12:47 AM
For my use MobileMe would be overpriced for what little it offers.

I sync my iPhone contacts with Google Contacts, and my GMail is checked every 15 minutes (good enough).

Now I just need a way to sync Google Calendar without using Outlook...

tomccabe
Jul 12, 2008, 07:26 AM
Some of you need to get over yourselves.

please. "get over yourself"? have nothing interesting to say?

things they supply that no other company thus far has been able to figure out.

except for the RIM BlackBerry which has been able to do this for years. i guess we're not counting that though.

GuillaumeB
Jul 12, 2008, 08:51 AM
I haven't worked through the method you're using, but what happens to sent messages? Ideally what I'd like is for emails sent from my iPhone (once I get one) to appear in the sent messages folder on the web interface and Mail.app on my three macs, and vice-versa. Does your method achieve this, or is my only option to just resign myself to a complete switch to my new @me.com email address?
.

Well basically I redirect Google Apps to me.com
On the iPhone and on the Mail.app software I have used my personal SMTP settings with my own domain.
Sent emails from the iPhone or Mail .app go to the sent folder. And because we got IMAP those folders are always synchronized with MobileMe. Therefre YES you will see those sent messages on the web interface and across all your computers/devices.

GuillaumeB
Jul 12, 2008, 08:53 AM
For my use MobileMe would be overpriced for what little it offers.

I sync my iPhone contacts with Google Contacts, and my GMail is checked every 15 minutes (good enough).

Now I just need a way to sync Google Calendar without using Outlook...

Do you really sync you local address book with Gmail Contact pseudo manager that is dumb enough to automatically add anyone and anything as a contact????
Wow! I feel sorry for you!

DoreanGrae
Jul 12, 2008, 10:43 AM
Wow. Just...wow.

You people are honestly mad because your @whatever.com e-mail addresses don't push after you signed up for MobileMe? Are you serious with this? How in the living **** could you possibly come to the conclusion that that's what MobileMe is? Apple has zero control over your personal e-mails. They DO have control over @me.com e-mails, because they're all on Apple servers and run by Apple. Thus, Apple provides push for them. If you want push on other e-mails, talk to your e-mail provider. Yell at them, not Apple. It's possible. As has been pointed out, Yahoo's been doing it since the launch of the iPhone. It's not Apple's fault that your personal e-mail provider doesn't have push support.

And if you decide that MobileMe isn't for you...fine. Don't buy it.

(however if you think that the current performance issues are going to keep up for the duration of MobileMe's life, you need to have your head checked)

alphaod
Jul 12, 2008, 10:52 AM
My push works, I'm happy; if you're complain about how push doesn't work for your other addresses, go get yourself your own Microsoft Exchange server.

cwosigns
Jul 12, 2008, 11:05 AM
I thought it automatically got the accounts loaded into Mail (OS X) and updated that to your iPhone. But it's not working for me. Which really sucks.

Apple never stated this was the case. Sorry you didn't understand what the service does and doesn't do, but that's not Apple's fault.

cwosigns
Jul 12, 2008, 11:08 AM
please. "get over yourself"? have nothing interesting to say?



except for the RIM BlackBerry which has been able to do this for years. i guess we're not counting that though.

BlackBerry Internet Service (BIS) is what most consumers use, not BES which is for corporate enterprise users. BIS doesn't offer calendar syncing, disk storage accessible from a browser, web hosting, a mobile photo gallery. MobileMe is a CONSUMER service, and it blows BIS away.

tallyho
Jul 12, 2008, 11:09 AM
Wow. Just...wow.

You people are honestly mad because your @whatever.com e-mail addresses don't push after you signed up for MobileMe? Are you serious with this? How in the living **** could you possibly come to the conclusion that that's what MobileMe is? Apple has zero control over your personal e-mails.
Yeah thanks for that constructive and helpful post. I do not share the outrage and misunderstanding that the OP displayed, but if you had bothered to read the many other threads on this topic, you would have realised that what we are looking for is simply a means to send from an email address that ends in mydomain.com rather than me.com. All the emails would still be on Apple's servers. Google has this capability on Gmail, via a simple challenge/response system to show that you own the email address you wish to be able to send from in Gmail. We're looking for workarounds that would allow the same functionality for MobileMe.


(however if you think that the current performance issues are going to keep up for the duration of MobileMe's life, you need to have your head checked)
Again, thanks for that. As someone who moved from dot mac a couple of years ago because of ridiculously slow speeds and unreliable email, I did think Apple might have aimed higher with MobileMe...

DoreanGrae
Jul 12, 2008, 11:10 AM
Apple never stated this was the case. Sorry you didn't understand what the service does and doesn't do, but that's not Apple's fault.

Exactly. It's not as if it was vague, either. I simply cannot understand how people have come to believe that MobileMe would give their random e-mail addresses push.

DoreanGrae
Jul 12, 2008, 11:15 AM
Yeah thanks for that constructive and helpful post. I do not share the outrage and misunderstanding that the OP displayed, but if you had bothered to read the many other threads on this topic, you would have realised that what we are looking for is simply a means to send from an email address that ends in mydomain.com rather than me.com. All the emails would still be on Apple's servers. Google has this capability on Gmail, via a simple challenge/response system to show that you own the email address you wish to be able to send from in Gmail. We're looking for workarounds that would allow the same functionality for MobileMe.

I fail to see how the various other threads have any bearing on what this thread is about. The original poster is complaining because he doesn't get push support via MobileMe for his other e-mail addresses. Wanting a way to have a seperate send-from address is a seperate issue. Probably one that they should have, but not what he was talking about originally, which is what I was responding to.


Again, thanks for that. As someone who moved from dot mac a couple of years ago because of ridiculously slow speeds and unreliable email, I did think Apple might have aimed higher with MobileMe...

I've .Mac for the last 2 years and have never had a problem with ridiculously slow speeds. The e-mail goes down from time to time, but I can only think of one instance when it actually bothered me.

Honestly, I don't get this sentiment though. The launch of MobileMe has been a disaster, yes, but do you REALLY think that they're not going to improve it at all? The service isn't officially launched yet (note that the apple.com/mobileme sites all still say "coming soon"). Wait until they get it going to pronounce your judgement that it's terrible. That's like giving up on a baseball game when your team goes down 1-0 in the 2nd inning.

richpjr
Jul 12, 2008, 12:00 PM
BlackBerry Internet Service (BIS) is what most consumers use, not BES which is for corporate enterprise users. BIS doesn't offer calendar syncing, disk storage accessible from a browser, web hosting, a mobile photo gallery. MobileMe is a CONSUMER service, and it blows BIS away.

Regardless of whether it is a consumer or a corporate service, BES shows that it can be done. It also makes zero sense to compare the free BIS service (data plan aside, of course) with the $100 a year MobileMe features. I'd expect more features for a service I pay for than one I get for free.

I personally don't care about forwarding emails, I just want synching contacts and calendar events between my work laptop and my Mac Pro at home to work. I set it up on my laptop, it says it syncs and nothing shows up on my Mac. Yes, I know it's early in the rollout stage and I should "be patient" and allow them to work out the kinks, but why the hell are they selling the thing if they aren't ready?

cwosigns
Jul 12, 2008, 12:41 PM
Regardless of whether it is a consumer or a corporate service, BES shows that it can be done. It also makes zero sense to compare the free BIS service (data plan aside, of course) with the $100 a year MobileMe features. I'd expect more features for a service I pay for than one I get for free.

If you want to use your own domain server or GMail or whatever, then get a hosted exchange server. MobileMe is what it is. It was never advertised as more. If you a hosted exchange server, get it. But for Mac users you'll have to use Entourage.

tivoboy
Jul 12, 2008, 12:55 PM
I think that mobileme will indeed in the FUTURE offer such service as email forwarding and smtp authentication and reply to address changes,

But, I think the benefits of mobileme (and historcially dotmac) are being lost here. There is 20GB of free storage, and auto updating online disk storage, syncing of contacts, addresses, bookmarks, etc across all platforms.

I for one, use the iweb feature quite often to do a very simple push of my iphoto galleries which I want to share with people up to the cloud, allowing people to see and GET the high res photos they want to have and print. this is all sync'd across my macs and pcs now, and also the iphone.

For most, the exchange type of email syncing is too expensive to have as an individual, for the 8$ a month that mobile me charges, it is quite inexpensive comparatively.

If one only had the mobileme address, for the common consumer user (which is a huge target indeed for apple) this service will be quite valuable.

Billy Boo Bob
Jul 12, 2008, 01:20 PM
This isn't a global / always on solution, but actually, if you have multiple email accounts set up on the phone you can select on alternate "From" address while you're composing a message.

If you hit reply to a message, you're presented with To: And Subject: pre-filled in. Between those two "lines" you have "CC/BCC, From: default-account" in there. If you tap that line, it expands to 3 lines. One each for CC:, BCC:, and From:...

Tap on From: and it brings up a scrolling wheel selection (like a popup button does on a web page) of your available accounts to set which account you want it to be From:

Granted, it would be nice to be able to set, permanently, which From: address is used, but at least it "can be done" on a message-by-message basis.

tallyho
Jul 12, 2008, 01:40 PM
I fail to see how the various other threads have any bearing on what this thread is about. The original poster is complaining because he doesn't get push support via MobileMe for his other e-mail addresses. Wanting a way to have a seperate send-from address is a seperate issue. Probably one that they should have, but not what he was talking about originally, which is what I was responding to.
Oh come on! You are being very disingenuous here. The separate send-from address IS the issue, because once you have a catch-all forward from your domain to MobileMe AND the ability to reply from your domain, you effectively have push email for all your own email accounts. Most of us have our own domains, and would prefer not to advertise Apple each time we send an email (actually, I can now consider using the default @me.com, as it is far less branded than @mac.com which just made people look like they worked at Apple)



I've .Mac for the last 2 years and have never had a problem with ridiculously slow speeds. .
You obviously never tried to access iDisk or webgalleries from Europe then. Unusable. The throttling of .Mac for European users has been very well documented, including a huge thread on Apple's own discussion pages. The general consensus here was that Apple needed to realise that not all of its paying customers live in California and that they should invest in some infrastructure for European users.

As it happens though, Apple actually does seem to have improved matters - when I reactivated .Mac a couple of weeks ago, the situation was better and, initial glitches and outages notwithstanding, MobileMe seems better too.

PS.... Good username...you don't have a portrait in an attic somewhere do you? :p

jennyp
Jul 12, 2008, 02:53 PM
OK.. signed up for a trial account, got everything working in system prefs on my macs, then tried to login at me.com - it says the username and password I entered are wrong - but I know they're right. What to do? Maybe I entered the wrong password? I click "forgot password", and then I'm able to change it to another. Good. But it says, "Now return to Apple Store Japan." Huh? Never been there! Try to login again - no go. This is not a promising start!

sgrcts
Jul 12, 2008, 02:59 PM
why are people acting like apple shouldn't have to?

All I want is to be able to forward my email to my .me account and have the .me autoreply as my real email. This is a SIMPLE fix.

In fact, the iphone handles email about 1/10th as well as blackberry overall. I'm regretting buying this thing already, and .me is a big reason why.

sgrcts
Jul 12, 2008, 03:00 PM
I'm a 20+ year apple user, and i love apple as much as anyone but why do people feel the need to defend any company for providing an inferior service?

Shouldn't the consumer be on the consumers side, so we can all get the best product?

eye.surgeon
Jul 12, 2008, 03:13 PM
The OP has a very valid point. mobileme doesn't offer a customized reply-to address, forcing you to use the me.com domain instead of your established email address. He is not complaining that his current addresses don't push.

Offering a customized reply-to or from address has been standard fare for paid email accounts for a long, long time. It's a big oversight not to include this from the get-go because it stops many people including me from using it because I need to maintain the appearance of my current email address.

Yahoo plus allows multiple customized reply to addresses (ie. work, personal, e-commerce addresses) and also pushes to the iphone just as well as mobileme, and syncs your contacts to yahoo contacts. The only thing it doesn't do is sync calendars.

yoomy
Jul 12, 2008, 03:27 PM
i have found a solution for the problem, but it only works with the mail app not with the iphone.

i got my very own name@name.com email adress which i forward to my new mobile me account. then in the mail app i added my name@name.com account but deactivated it (this is needed for the smtp server). i now added name@name.com as additional reply email adress in the same line with name@me.com, name@mac.com.

i now receive all my mail via push and can reply with whatever adress i want to.

lancejorton
Jul 12, 2008, 03:46 PM
I don't understand why people who have non-Mac email addresses get so upset and blame APPLE because their email isn't pushed to their iPhone. Apple didn't limit anything; they designed a solution for THEIR email service. It's not Apple's fault that your other four email accounts don't push to your iPhone. Yahoo made it happen.

And Apple never stated anywhere that MobileMe would enable your other email accounts to get pushed to the iPhone.

No, it appears that the iPhone software only supports Push email from Exchange and MobileMe. That is the issue here. I have the same problem. My host supports Push email but the iPhone does not. Hopefully in 2.1. I submitted a feature request.

lancejorton
Jul 12, 2008, 03:56 PM
The OP has a very valid point. mobileme doesn't offer a customized reply-to address, forcing you to use the me.com domain instead of your established email address. He is not complaining that his current addresses don't push.

Offering a customized reply-to or from address has been standard fare for paid email accounts for a long, long time. It's a big oversight not to include this from the get-go because it stops many people including me from using it because I need to maintain the appearance of my current email address.

Yahoo plus allows multiple customized reply to addresses (ie. work, personal, e-commerce addresses) and also pushes to the iphone just as well as mobileme, and syncs your contacts to yahoo contacts. The only thing it doesn't do is sync calendars.

Agreed. I'm surprised this is not a feature. Unfortunately, it will now require an iPhone software update to fix which may take longer.

lancejorton
Jul 12, 2008, 03:57 PM
i have found a solution for the problem, but it only works with the mail app not with the iphone.

i got my very own name@name.com email adress which i forward to my new mobile me account. then in the mail app i added my name@name.com account but deactivated it (this is needed for the smtp server). i now added name@name.com as additional reply email adress in the same line with name@me.com, name@mac.com.

i now receive all my mail via push and can reply with whatever adress i want to.

but you probably still have to select your From account for each email, right?

chairguru22
Jul 12, 2008, 04:05 PM
SO I talked to a guy at apple. The only way to get push email is through the @me.com email. You can not set up any other emails to receive push. They can only be forwarded to @me.com to get the push feature. This sucks because if you forward them to @me.com you can't reply from the specific email.

This is how all push email works. Apple can only control what their servers do.

yoomy
Jul 12, 2008, 04:10 PM
but you probably still have to select your From account for each email, right?

you hit new email or reply and get a dropdown list of email adresses, there you can select the appropiate adress. but if you received an email to name@name.com and you hit reply it will automaticly select that one as reply.

eye.surgeon
Jul 12, 2008, 05:59 PM
This is how all push email works. Apple can only control what their servers do.

I think you're missing the issue here. The real rub is there is no option to use different aliases or "from" addresses in mobileme on the web.

The more I poke around mobileme on the web the less I care though. It seems quite undeveloped/slow and not really a viable replacement for the new ajax Yahoo mail plus for example. For occasional use no problem, but for those that use web based email exclusively be it gmail, yahoo, or what have you (frankly I can't imagine any need to be tied to a desktop email client in this day and age) it's just not in the top tier.

sgrcts
Jul 12, 2008, 11:09 PM
desktop mail is so far superior to webmail, that would be the reason. its not even close.

coolfactor
Jul 12, 2008, 11:58 PM
You can send FROM any email address you want using your MobilMe @me.com account from within Mail.app. Just list them in Preferences, as shown in the attached image.

Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to carry over to the online Mail client. You can let Apple know you want this here:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/mac/tm.html

DamFu
Jul 13, 2008, 12:08 AM
In fact, the iphone handles email about 1/10th as well as blackberry overall. I'm regretting buying this thing already, and .me is a big reason why.

That is relative. I work in a group with about a dozen Blackberry users. My iPhone handles email better than all of them. I get my corporate email a good 15-30 seconds on my iPhone BEFORE they get it on their devices.

If you are regretting the purchase of your phone and if .me is a big reason why, you still have 12 days to return it.

robbyx
Jul 13, 2008, 12:10 AM
SO I talked to a guy at apple. The only way to get push email is through the @me.com email. You can not set up any other emails to receive push. They can only be forwarded to @me.com to get the push feature. This sucks because if you forward them to @me.com you can't reply from the specific email.

Not entirely true. Just create email accounts for each address on your phone. Forward all to me.com for the push feature, but, when replying, select the appropriate account. Not perfect, I know, but it should work.

Er, nevermind. It seems others have answered the question! However, I would like to point out that it appears that, when putting all addresses in Email Address field, the Sender Name is always the same. So, if you're using an alias or generic/anon Yahoo, etc. address, your primary account Sender name will be used, not the Sender name specified for that email account. Defeats the purpose of aliases in my mind.

DamFu
Jul 13, 2008, 12:14 AM
Shouldn't the consumer be on the consumers side, so we can all get the best product?


Why is that? Not all of us are having the same issues that you are. Why should we stomp our feet and take the same stand when some of us aren't the ones with the issues?

I love the people that feel they have to qualify their statements with how long they have been an Apple owner. The fact that you have owned an Apple for 20+ years has no bearing on this at all.

stomer
Jul 13, 2008, 10:53 AM
The OP has a very valid point. mobileme doesn't offer a customized reply-to address
Is it such a problem to setup a gmail account, specify extra accounts in the accounts tab, and then use gmail's smtp server to send your mail?

That way your sent emails are stored both in your gmail account and your mobileme account.