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richard.mac
Jul 12, 2008, 02:27 AM
can i use a different email address but still have the functionality of MobileMe, like using your own domain with Gmail… is this possible?



Eluzion
Jul 12, 2008, 02:34 AM
MobileMe supports checking mail from an external POP account.

richard.mac
Jul 12, 2008, 02:37 AM
what about IMAP?

i havent purchased MobileMe yet but im interested to know if i cant create an @me email but then not use it and get MobileMe to push my Gmail IMAP emails. or maybe even later on create my own domain and then use that for Gmail and then push to MobileMe? i.e. a 3 step process

consumedsoul
Jul 12, 2008, 02:43 AM
The issue with this is you have to click on 'check mail from blah@gmail.com' etc. the MobileMe servers don't automatically/continuously download the POP acct, requires manual intervention.

MobileMe supports checking mail from an external POP account.

richard.mac
Jul 12, 2008, 02:48 AM
so its not all automatic? you have to add in another step to check mail from another email address, even if its IMAP?

Eluzion
Jul 12, 2008, 02:59 AM
I don't think it supports IMAP; at least there is no indication that it does.

It basically just supports checking your other accounts email through POP. There is a button on the top of the Mail interface to check your mail.

I think a lot of people are confusing MobileMe Mail as some type of web-based email client. It's more of just the web interface for @me.com email.

richard.mac
Jul 12, 2008, 03:03 AM
ok thanks. so what would be an alternative that has push email (maybe calendar & contacts) that allows you to use your own domain e.g. @richthomas.com.

NJRonbo
Jul 12, 2008, 03:49 AM
I think what the original poster is asking is the same thing I
am wondering.

Using MobileMe for push mail is great. The problem is, it only
works with a .me or .mac email account.

Most all of us use other email accounts. How can we we set up
our other email account(s) to go through MobileMe?

Is it a matter of having to forward all received mail from our
original accounts to our mobileme accounts?

Thanks in advance!

cas-t-away
Jul 12, 2008, 06:57 AM
I think what we can do is use alias for your mobile me account so even you are using your mobileme mail it looks like its your own e-mail. This you can set up in mobile me. Then as reply address you use that account as well and your set your own host to forward to mobile me. I must say I also thought we could add account info to mobile me so that is would collect and push other mail accounts as well.


I think what the original poster is asking is the same thing I
am wondering.

Using MobileMe for push mail is great. The problem is, it only
works with a .me or .mac email account.

Most all of us use other email accounts. How can we we set up
our other email account(s) to go through MobileMe?

Is it a matter of having to forward all received mail from our
original accounts to our mobileme accounts?

Thanks in advance!

tallyho
Jul 12, 2008, 07:02 AM
I think what we can do is use alias for your mobile me account so even you are using your mobileme mail it looks like its your own e-mail. This you can set up in mobile me. Then as reply address you use that account as well and your set your own host to forward to mobile me. I must say I also thought we could add account info to mobile me so that is would collect and push other mail accounts as well.

There are many threads about this topic. Unfortunately you cannot (as far as I am aware) send from any address that does not end in @me.com or @mac.com. Yes, in Mail.app on your mac you can use a different smtp server and send from your own email address (not mac.com or me.com) but then those will not end up in your sent folder in MobileMe, and I'm not sure you can do this from the iphone anyway (not got mine yet so can't check).
I think the only thing to do is to switch to an @me.com or @mac.com address. Forward all your existing accounts to it; replies will be from your @me.com/@mac.com address.

RaceTripper
Jul 12, 2008, 10:30 AM
I think what we can do is use alias for your mobile me account so even you are using your mobileme mail it looks like its your own e-mail. This you can set up in mobile me. Then as reply address you use that account as well and your set your own host to forward to mobile me. I must say I also thought we could add account info to mobile me so that is would collect and push other mail accounts as well.That is not correct, unless they changed it for MobileMe and it's buried in a preference I could not find. .Mac did not support sending from email accounts in other domains, nor does MobileMe.

MobileMe (.Mac) aliases are just aliased usernames for your me.com/mac.com email accounts only. That's why MobileMe email is brain dead and why I will continue to use Gmail instead, which does support sending email as from another account.

Steven.nevets
Jul 12, 2008, 12:13 PM
it's crazy that i was just able to set that up with my university email in less than two minutes in gmail. i added the email, confirmed it, and checked the "Reply from the same address the message was sent to" box.

i wish MobileMe had this, then i really would only use it for my email. although i guess the issue really only matters in the web interface, since i can just set up the other accounts in mail.app seperately. still, would be better if they all came to one.

GuillaumeB
Jul 12, 2008, 12:34 PM
The easiest method is to forward you external mail account to your mobileme account.

You can use customized SMTP settings ith a personal email address on the iPhone or on a desktop client. Not on the webmail though

anthonymoody
Jul 12, 2008, 02:24 PM
Guillaume can you please explain how to do the last bit with the customized SMTP settings?

TIA
TM

rysmtihaz
Jul 12, 2008, 04:00 PM
Mobileme really could be so much more but for reasons only Steve knows, it's not. Here is the best way to get Push Gmail etc.
In Gmail, forward email to your Mobile Me account.
Chose to archive incoming emails

On iPhone.
In General Settings, chose Fetch new data.
Keep MobileMe as push and set Fetch as Manually
Click advanced
Change Gmail account to Manual

When you reply to emails in MobileMe account, click on "From" which should give you the option to change it to your Gmail account.

Not pretty but definitely works and email shows up immediately.
This also prevents duplicate since your incoming mail will never be in the inbox and therefore should not be pulled down at the intervals.

NJRonbo
Jul 12, 2008, 04:14 PM
rysmtihaz,

Forwarding all my accounts through GMAIL worked perfectly.

Your iPhone instructions either don't make sense or I am missing
something.

You said go to GENERAL SETTINGS choose FETCH NEW DATA

Where is that under GENERAL SETTINGS?

aristobrat
Jul 12, 2008, 04:18 PM
ok thanks. so what would be an alternative that has push email (maybe calendar & contacts) that allows you to use your own domain e.g. @richthomas.com.
Google for "hosted Exchange accounts". They usually cost more than MobileMe, but they will give you Exchange push for email, calendar, and contacts. Some will allow you to use your own domain name too.

criss
Jul 12, 2008, 04:23 PM
What I did was have gmail forward all mail to my me account. I have my gmail and me.com set up in the iPhone but I made Gmail inactive so it will not check or use it.

in the Me.com configuration with in the mail settings, click account info and where it says smtp.me.com scroll down till you find smtp.gmail.com and use it.

I can now forward mail to me.com from gmail, pull from the me.com and reply back to the sender and they see my gmail information and their replies go to my gmail account. Then the whole process starts over again

I am having an issue with the push feature right now as it does not seem to be working


rysmtihaz,

Forwarding all my accounts through GMAIL worked perfectly.

Your iPhone instructions either don't make sense or I am missing
something.

You said go to GENERAL SETTINGS choose FETCH NEW DATA

Where is that under GENERAL SETTINGS?

NJRonbo
Jul 12, 2008, 04:41 PM
criss,

Everything is working beautifully.

I have 2 accounts pushed through GMAIL and along with
my .MAC/MobileMe account I have push mail on all 3.

Your iPhone settings worked great! Now my default GMAIL
address show up in all my emails.

Only ONE problem remains....

My .MAC/MobileMe nickname still shows up in my "FROM"
field next to my default GMAIL address. Even though I set
up an "alias" through MobileMe, it is not transporting to the iPhone.

Other than that no issues with push on any of my accounts.

Thanks for your help.

criss
Jul 12, 2008, 04:53 PM
Change the Name Field and that should fix your name issue

Still working on the push issue. I have not setup my desktops for .me so I am not sure if that is the issue

criss,

Everything is working beautifully.

I have 2 accounts pushed through GMAIL and along with
my .MAC/MobileMe account I have push mail on all 3.

Your iPhone settings worked great! Now my default GMAIL
address show up in all my emails.

Only ONE problem remains....

My .MAC/MobileMe nickname still shows up in my "FROM"
field next to my default GMAIL address. Even though I set
up an "alias" through MobileMe, it is not transporting to the iPhone.

Other than that no issues with push on any of my accounts.

Thanks for your help.

NJRonbo
Jul 12, 2008, 05:12 PM
I think I know the problem you are having...

The second I changed my username on the MobileMe
mail account on my iPhone, all mail sent from it was no
longer being received from any device.

I think I have to change the username back to the default account name.


Question...

On the GMAIL side....

When you set the forwarding you can select KEEP IN GMAIL INBOX or ARCHIVE

What is the difference?

With either setting I still have to go into Gmail every day and clear out the IN and SPAM folders
as it retains everything.

NJRonbo
Jul 12, 2008, 05:17 PM
Not sure if this is the problem or not as I set my name back to the default
.MAC account name and my devices are not receiving any mail my iPhone sends
through that account.

criss
Jul 12, 2008, 05:22 PM
My name is the same on the iPhone as it in the .me

I am going to try to delete and recreate the account

As soon as I set my NAME back to my default .Mac/MobileMe
account name on the iPhone the "push" started working again.

I think that's your problem.

Let me know for sure, please.

NJRonbo
Jul 12, 2008, 05:27 PM
Yeah, my REAL NAME and .ME account name are different.

I want my REAL NAME to accompany my email address in
the "from" field.

However, as soon as I changed it, all hell broke loose and now
I can't receive mail I sent from my iPhone.

Going to do what you did and just delete and recreate account.

If you have timer, I asked a GMAIL question above.

NJRonbo
Jul 12, 2008, 05:32 PM
Just noticed something else...

The changing of the account name was not the problem.

I was sending myself mail from the iPhone to test the account.

Instead of sending to me through Apple Mail INBOX it downloaded
through the SENT FOLDER instead.

criss
Jul 12, 2008, 05:36 PM
I left it in my inbox as I plan on writing filters in the upcoming days to only forward certain mail. I never touch my spam folder as it auto deletes spam after a few weeks. If you select the archive option then nothing will be in your inbox. The issue with my solution right now is that on the iphone I can't use my gmail folder so each day I'll have to go in and clean up the inbox.

Also I think I may have fixed the push...not real push but after 4 minutes it showed up on my iPhone

I think I know the problem you are having...

Question...

On the GMAIL side....

When you set the forwarding you can select KEEP IN GMAIL INBOX or ARCHIVE

What is the difference?

With either setting I still have to go into Gmail every day and clear out the IN and SPAM folders
as it retains everything.

Cousin Dirk
Jul 12, 2008, 05:55 PM
So wait... I can set the MobileMe email (on phone, on Mac, online) to grab my emails via POP from another account? How do I set that up??

criss
Jul 12, 2008, 06:02 PM
Not sure about about POP but if your mail cleint can forward it's email to your mobile me account then yes you can get it to your iPhone.


So wait... I can set the MobileMe email (on phone, on Mac, online) to grab my emails via POP from another account? How do I set that up??

Alysson
Jul 12, 2008, 06:32 PM
what about IMAP?

i havent purchased MobileMe yet but im interested to know if i cant create an @me email but then not use it and get MobileMe to push my Gmail IMAP emails. or maybe even later on create my own domain and then use that for Gmail and then push to MobileMe? i.e. a 3 step process

Have you considered auto forwarding your "other" address to the @me address?

anthonymoody
Jul 12, 2008, 09:25 PM
The problem is that you can't get the "from" address to read as your primary/preferred email address, or at least I can't...

Phrogz
Jul 12, 2008, 09:47 PM
so its not all automatic? you have to add in another step to check mail from another email address, even if its IMAP?

No you do not have to perform "another step"; it will check IMAP accounts automatically. It just won't use push (I gather), but rather will poll like it did with the first gen.

I don't think it supports IMAP; at least there is no indication that it does.

Of course it supports IMAP. Not only do you see IMAP as an option when you go to add a new account, but Apple's web site says:
"With support for popular email servers and providers — including MobileMe, Microsoft Exchange, Yahoo! Mail, Google Gmail, and AOL — and most industry-standard IMAP or POP mail systems, iPhone puts email in your pocket."
- http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/mail.html

When you say "there is no indication that it does", where exactly were you looking?

CakeOrDeath
Jul 12, 2008, 10:16 PM
The problem is that you can't get the "from" address to read as your primary/preferred email address, or at least I can't...

I think I actually figured out how to do this...but its not as useful as I thought. Here is how I am setup


1) My Domain Email :

a: My domain.com email is forwarded to my mobileme account

2) Iphone Setup

a: MobileMe is checking Mail (and the other options, but those arent important)

b: I have the same POP domain.com email address that is forwarded to the MobileMe account configured on the iphone as you typically would (setup as "Other Account")

NOTE: If you dont have option B, or the mail account is inactive...the FROM option will not work.


3) How to "Reply As" from MobileMe

a: When an email is sent to my domain.com email, its forwarded to my MobileMe account

b: The iphone tells me when my mail has arrived via the MobileMe PUSH feature (anywhere from 10 seconds to 2 minutes)

*** Here is where things get redundant ***

Because the same pop account is configured on the iphone, as soon as you go into Mail to check your MobileMe account, it checks the redundant POP account and you get the same mail that was forwarded to your MobileMe account. However, it must be active to Reply As

c: Go into MobileMe and reply to the email. Touch the CC/BCC, From: field (it appears to be greyed out, but it CAN be selected)...and click the From area, a selection wheel will then come up allowing you to select to SEND via a different account.


Now, being that the POP account is also configured on the iPhone, you already know you have email via the MobileMe alert you already received. So, this isnt really all that useful, but it can be used as an impromptu alert you have mail in your regular POP or IMAP account before that account Fetches at its scheduled interval. So you can either change the FROM area in the MobileMe reply, or reply directly from the POP/IMAP account.

The problem with doing it this way is that you basically have 2 copies of every email you recieve, one in MobileMe and one in the actual POP or IMAP email account inbox.


It really shouldn't be this difficult to get PUSH emails, and reply as a non @me.com / @yahoo.com address. This workaround is essentially a roundabout way of being alerted your non push IMAP / POP account has mail via the MobileMe mail alert.

eye.surgeon
Jul 12, 2008, 10:30 PM
It's a workable solution but it seems much easier to me to just pay $20 and get Yahoo mail plus which is pushed to the phone just like .me. You get true IMAP syncing of all your folders as well. $20 for push email vs. $99 and the kicker is the ajax Yahoo mail is superior to the mobileme web mail in just about every way. The down side, no calendar syncing.

CakeOrDeath
Jul 12, 2008, 10:43 PM
It's a workable solution but it seems much easier to me to just pay $20 and get Yahoo mail plus which is pushed to the phone just like .me. You get true IMAP syncing of all your folders as well. $20 for push email vs. $99 and the kicker is the ajax Yahoo mail is superior to the mobileme web mail in just about every way. The down side, no calendar syncing.

With this option you can't "reply as" anything other than your @yahoo.com address (from the iphone of course) ; which doesn't help folks who need @domain.com in the reply field.

d21mike
Jul 12, 2008, 11:57 PM
The problem with doing it this way is that you basically have 2 copies of every email you recieve, one in MobileMe and one in the actual POP or IMAP email account inbox.

You missed a step.

Under Settings Select "Fetch New Data"

Go to Advanced and set your "Reply To" acount(s) to Manual.

Since I have all Push I set the Main Fetch Section to Manual.

I also set my POP3 Account/Password to invalid and set the correct one under SMTP to be sure.

I did this for my Reply to my company Support Email which is really just a list to real address's and it worked great.

d21mike
Jul 13, 2008, 12:05 AM
rysmtihaz,

Forwarding all my accounts through GMAIL worked perfectly.

Your iPhone instructions either don't make sense or I am missing
something.

You said go to GENERAL SETTINGS choose FETCH NEW DATA

Where is that under GENERAL SETTINGS?

Just under Settings (not General). It may be new with v2 firmware (not sure). Also, go into Advance and set your Reply to Account to Manually.

npk
Jul 13, 2008, 01:43 AM
nevermind

dleute
Jul 13, 2008, 01:52 AM
Does anyone know if calendars and contacts can be shared for reading/writing among different mobile me users? I want some of my family members to be able to read and update the same contact list.

Preferably I'd like to give permission to specific mobileme users (not just those among a family account)

Anyone know?

--Derrek

-------
iScale: Nutrition tracking for the iPhone made easy
http://www.allofzero.com/

smagdy
Jul 13, 2008, 06:55 AM
i just realized that in me.com if u click mail -> preference -> other (tab)

then the first option is to setup "External Account" (Pop) !!

i didnt try it yet, but cant we just setup gmail account there then it gets pushed normally?

Will try it now...

Update..
---------
It didnt seem to be able to connect to gmail but it also looks like u have to click link at me.com to manually check new emails.

NJRonbo
Jul 13, 2008, 07:08 AM
Smagdy,

Let us know if it works

smagdy
Jul 13, 2008, 07:10 AM
It didnt seem to be able to connect to gmail but it also looks like u have to click link at me.com to manually check new emails.

GuillaumeB
Jul 13, 2008, 07:37 AM
Guillaume can you please explain how to do the last bit with the customized SMTP settings?

TIA
TM

On you iPhone 2.0 software go to the Settings > Mail > Add Account

Choose "Other"

Incoming Mail server:
enter your MobileMe address and use imap.me.com or imap.mac.com with your Me/.Mac username and password

Outgoing mail server
That's where you set up the SMTP settings
there I have put the Google Apps gmail settings. That's where you put the different outgoing server. In my case :
STMP: smtp.gmail.com followed by the username and password.

Your incoming mail being identified as MobileMe will still get pushed but then you'll be sending emails from your personal email account

NJRonbo
Jul 13, 2008, 08:33 AM
listen...

This may be a lot to ask, but one of you could make history
here and do us a huge service if in one single post you can
list a complete step-by-step process of pushing multiple
POP accounts through Gmail and configuration of the iPhone.

This thread is rather disjointed and if someone could post
an easy step-by-step instructional it can easily be referenced
by everyone. Make it easy to follow so that no mistakes can be made.

Please include instructions for using your main POP address
in replies sent through .Mac on the iPhone.

richard.mac
Jul 13, 2008, 08:40 AM
sorry i havent replied for a while ive been out. ill read through this thread tomorrow. i havent purchased MobileMe or an iPhone yet. im just looking for service (MobileMe or not) that does push email, contacts and calendars that works seamlessly on a Mac but doesnt have the 'crummy' @me.com email address.

NJRonbo
Jul 13, 2008, 10:13 AM
GuillaumeB,

The only problem I am having at this point with your directions
is that on the iPhone, it is not accepting the mail server:

imap.mac.com

PS: I am setting this up under the IMAP tab not the POP tab.

Every time I hit save I get a message asking if I want to set it up without SSL.

rysmtihaz
Jul 13, 2008, 10:55 AM
listen...

This may be a lot to ask, but one of you could make history
here and do us a huge service if in one single post you can
list a complete step-by-step process of pushing multiple
POP accounts through Gmail and configuration of the iPhone.

This thread is rather disjointed and if someone could post
an easy step-by-step instructional it can easily be referenced
by everyone. Make it easy to follow so that no mistakes can be made.

Please include instructions for using your main POP address
in replies sent through .Mac on the iPhone.

See my earlier post. It's in Settings not General settings. By choosing Archive mail in Gmail there is never a second email popping up on your iPhone and you still have access to Gmail in the All Mail folder on your desktop client. This is also the surefire way the correct from address shows up when sending emails. I tried to change the SMTP in iPhone and it was spotty and one time even failed.

iptaylm
Jul 13, 2008, 10:58 AM
I'm still having troubles.

I have a gmail account that I have been using in the past on my Iphone to have 3 POP email with a bellsouth.net domain forwarded to my phone.

Is there really any advantage to having mobile me account and the gmail forwarding or one of the other?

Only thing I don't like with the gmail forwarding is that it's very random in checking the POP accounts, there is no set time that it checks and some conversations can get lost in time sequence.

Thanks

phantasmagoria
Jul 13, 2008, 11:08 AM
GuillaumeB,

The only problem I am having at this point with your directions
is that on the iPhone, it is not accepting the mail server:

imap.mac.com

PS: I am setting this up under the IMAP tab not the POP tab.

Every time I hit save I get a message asking if I want to set it up without SSL.

Use mail.me.com instead and it should work.

I set this up similarly on mine, using the same method as GuillaumeB, and it does allow me to use the .me account for incoming mail and to reply using my own domain and smtp server, but mail wasn't being pushed to the account, which defeats the point for me really. If I specify "other" instead of a MobileMe account then there is no option for Push in the settings - only Manual and Fetch.

criss
Jul 13, 2008, 11:37 AM
NJ

It's still not working for you? I have it working based on the instructions I posted earlier and push is now work as well.

One other trick is to turn off the gmail account you have on your iPhone. I only have mobileMe active but it is using the gmail SMTP server to send messages from my iPhone to the senders.

criss

listen...

This may be a lot to ask, but one of you could make history
here and do us a huge service if in one single post you can
list a complete step-by-step process of pushing multiple
POP accounts through Gmail and configuration of the iPhone.

This thread is rather disjointed and if someone could post
an easy step-by-step instructional it can easily be referenced
by everyone. Make it easy to follow so that no mistakes can be made.

Please include instructions for using your main POP address
in replies sent through .Mac on the iPhone.

NJRonbo
Jul 13, 2008, 11:38 AM
Phantasmagoria,

If mail is not being pushed to all the other devices using
GuillaumeB's directions, then what is the point?

I find that everything works fine if I set it up under MobileMe.
All I have to do on the iPhone is use the MobileMe account and
change the smtp server to use gmail.

That method may or may not exactly let me use my default
POP as the return address but at least everything works.

If I am missing something here let me know.

See my earlier post. It's in Settings not General settings.

rysmtihaz,

I think I did this right the first time. No, not under GENERAL SETTINGS
in Gmail, but rather under each new POP account I either added or
told to forward -- wherever it gave me a choice.

NJRonbo
Jul 13, 2008, 11:41 AM
....and as I mentioned previously, someone really needs to write
directions all in one post as this thread is really disjointed. I find
myself having to go back and forth to find bits of information which
others dispute not working and such.

Can someone find the time to post a step-by-step tutorial on
setting up the iPhone to push multiple POP accounts after they have
been forwarded through GMAIL, and that you can reply to mail on
the iPhone with your own POP return address that is not .Mac or .Me?

GuillaumeB
Jul 13, 2008, 11:44 AM
OK i do have Mail Push here!

If you are using a Mac then it may simpler for you to set this on Mail.app client and then sync the mail account to your phone via iTunes.

NJRonbo
Jul 13, 2008, 11:46 AM
It's still not working for you?

Criss,

Your directions worked perfectly using the MobileMe account
on iPhone, using the GMAIL stmp server and turning off GMAIL.

Everything works. I am getting push mail. Just not sure I can
reply on my iPhone with my default POP address. I would leave this alone, but...

...but there are other people claiming you need to NOT use
MobileMe and create an "other" account with a set of directions
if you want to reply to mail with your default POP address that
is not .Mac or .Me

Really sorry to be so redundant on all of this but it seems there
are two camps explaining how to do this and the crosstalk is getting
a bit confusing.

phantasmagoria
Jul 13, 2008, 11:48 AM
Phantasmagoria,

If mail is not being pushed to all the other devices using
GuillaumeB's directions, then what is the point?

Well exactly, which is why I thought I'd post that it didn't work for me even with the right mail server settings. I'm just trying different methods to see if I can get both push email and the ability to reply using my own domain working. So far I can only get one or the other with all the methods I've tried. It's giving me a right old headache! :mad: :)

sharp65
Jul 13, 2008, 11:50 AM
1.) Go into Gmail and over to the forwarding in the settings tab, set gmail to foward to xxxx@me.com and make sure to archive gmails copy, this way you won't have duplicates.

2.) On your iPhone or iPod touch set up your mobile me account as normal. Also, setup the mail accounts that gmail collects. After those are setup go into the fetch settings are and set those accounts to manual, this way they will not be used except for sending.

3.) When you receive an e-mail on mobile me, you will be able to click on "from" and choose any of the addresses that you have setup including your @me address.

There probably are other ways of doing this, but this is what worked for me.

criss
Jul 13, 2008, 11:50 AM
Understand now. Can't help with that as I don't have multiple POP emails. I do but they are get forwarded to gmail and everything gets a response from my gmail account so they start using that. I saw the need to go to one email address and gmail has been able to do that for me.

Lucky for me my iPhone is personal and my work email is not that important as I use my gmail account for most stuff anyways.

With that said does anyone know if mobileMe or the iPhone can do PGP for encrypted mail?

Criss,

Your directions worked perfectly using the MobileMe account
on iPhone, using the GMAIL stmp server and turning off GMAIL.

Everything works. I am getting push mail. I would leave this alone, but...

...but there are other people claiming you need to NOT use
MobileMe and create an "other" account with a set of directions
if you want to reply to mail with your default POP address that
is not .Mac or .Me

Really sorry to be so redundant on all of this but it seems there
are two camps explaining how to do this and the crosstalk is getting
a bit confusing.

GuillaumeB
Jul 13, 2008, 11:52 AM
Can someone find the time to post a step-by-step tutorial on
setting up the iPhone to push multiple POP accounts after they have
been forwarded through GMAIL, and that you can reply to mail on
the phone with your own POP return address that is not .Mac or .Me?

Well in short your iPhone is only going to push @me.com

Now you can centralized all your external accounts in Gmail and have Gmail forwarding everything to @me.com...

so that'd be

Ext POP> Gmail > @me.com

However it wont be pushed at all because Gmail checks you Ext pop account every hour... so even if you have new message there it wont be in Gmail before several minutes and therefore wont be forwarded to @me.com


So instead you should forward all you pop accounts to @me.com. so that as soon as a message is received it goes to @me.com and then it is pushed to you.


Basically to use your own personal email address to compose a message you have to change the SMTP settings on your iPhone or on Mail.app. I did transfer my settings from iTunes so i did the whole thing on Mail.app

Explorz
Jul 13, 2008, 11:55 AM
i just realized that in me.com if u click mail -> preference -> other (tab)

then the first option is to setup "External Account" (Pop) !!

i didnt try it yet, but cant we just setup gmail account there then it gets pushed normally?

Will try it now...

Update..
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It didnt seem to be able to connect to gmail but it also looks like u have to click link at me.com to manually check new emails.

Problem is that you can only fetch mail from one external account. Many of us have many professional email accounts for different segments of our business.

criss
Jul 13, 2008, 12:07 PM
I suggest you use gmail to consolidate emails. MobileMe does not seem to be a "business" friendly tool. MobileMe mail is not a very robust tool.

I know from my dealings with Apple at a previous job they made some changes that prohibited the use of Macs at a govt location (iSight) and they didn't care, their focus is consumers and they concentrate on that.

Good Luck!

Problem is that you can only fetch mail from one external account. Many of us have many professional email accounts for different segments of our business.

TuffLuffJimmy
Jul 13, 2008, 12:09 PM
I'm not going to read through this entire thread, but you can save yourself a headache if you use Exchange. You can use your own domain for that.

iptaylm
Jul 13, 2008, 12:10 PM
So basically what I'm hearing. Is that even with Gmail it truly won't be a "push" because Gmail only checks your POP accounts at random times.

I think for now I will use the Gmail service with my Iphone, no point in paying the $99 for mobile me if it's not going to be a true push service.

Am I correct in thinking this ?

iptaylm
Jul 13, 2008, 12:11 PM
I'm not going to read through this entire thread, but you can save yourself a headache if you use Exchange. You can use your own domain for that.


That's great and all, but many of us do not have a business account or work exchange that we can use.

GuillaumeB
Jul 13, 2008, 12:13 PM
So basically what I'm hearing. Is that even with Gmail it truly won't be a "push" because Gmail only checks your POP accounts at random times.

I think for now I will use the Gmail service with my Iphone, no point in paying the $99 for mobile me if it's not going to be a true push service.

Am I correct in thinking this ?

It's only true push for @me.com accounts and consequently, email accounts that are automatically forwarded to @me.com

iptaylm
Jul 13, 2008, 12:15 PM
For the small amount of time I use my Iphone for sending out emails, I will just stick with the free Gmail service, there is a rumor that the POP checking will move from a random time to a time where you can set the scheduled time soon anyways.

Mobile me is a good idea, but not for me.

Thanks for everyones help.

corvera
Jul 13, 2008, 12:21 PM
Criss,

Your directions worked perfectly using the MobileMe account
on iPhone, using the GMAIL stmp server and turning off GMAIL.

Everything works. I am getting push mail. Just not sure I can
reply on my iPhone with my default POP address. I would leave this alone, but...

...but there are other people claiming you need to NOT use
MobileMe and create an "other" account with a set of directions
if you want to reply to mail with your default POP address that
is not .Mac or .Me

Really sorry to be so redundant on all of this but it seems there
are two camps explaining how to do this and the crosstalk is getting
a bit confusing.

NJ, I had the problem of wanting my POP acoounts to be pushed and reply from them in both iPhone and Mac, I dunno if it's the same problem you have but here's what I did and it worked perfectly:

1. In Webmail setup to:
a) Keep the "Mailbox" ability (so you can still answer from that account).
b) Checked the "Discard all incoming mail".
c) Setup Forward to @me.com.

2. In Mail.app added the @me.com account and leave the rest of the exisiting POP accounts I've already have (the server won't send any email to the mailboxes, just to the @me account).

3. In iPhone/iPod Toch: As Sharp told me, set the "fetch" to manually in all POP accounts, but leave them there, so you can answer "from" any of them.

I don't use gmail accounts though, but I'm able to receive push email from any of the POP accounts and answer from them anywhere.

Hope it helps...

TuffLuffJimmy
Jul 13, 2008, 12:30 PM
That's great and all, but many of us do not have a business account or work exchange that we can use.

Can you not use a home exchange server?

MacPeach
Jul 13, 2008, 12:33 PM
I installed a foreign mail address on me.com to be tracked also beside the @mac.com addresses. Now, all my 10 email addresses do not work anymore.
When I check the used smtp servers, they are all disconnected. Whenever I try to send an email, my password will be asked, but will not accept it (asks again).
Friends are telling me, that email written to me just came back...
I erased the foreign email address at me.com but still everything is blocked.
Any advise? Thank you very much!!!

NJRonbo
Jul 13, 2008, 01:10 PM
I am going to post these instructions as they seemed to have worked
for me, including being able to reply on the iPhone with my default
POP account that is neither .Mac or .Me related.

If any of you want me to amend any of these directions let me know
in your reply


Create a GMAIL account

1. Go to Google Mail and create a personal account

2. After you have successfully registered, log into your GMAIL
account and click on SETTINGS in top right corner

3. Go to Accounts and scroll down to Get Mail From Other
Accounts. Fill out the information pertaining to the POP3 account
you wish GMAIL to retrieve mail from.

4. Go to Forwarding and POP and select the option Enable POP
only for mail that arrives from now on

5. Repeat above steps for additional POP addresses you wish to push.


Set up .MAC to push on your iPhone


1. On your iPhone go to Settings -> Mail, Contacts, Calendars -> Add
An Account -> Mobile ME

2. Use your .Mac/MobileMe address and password. SAVE

3. Go back into MobileMe configuration in mail settings, click account
info and where it says smtp.me.com scroll down till you find smtp.gmail.com and use it.

criss
Jul 13, 2008, 05:24 PM
Yes but that would be a missing feature from Gmail and your POP provider, IMO. From what I have read Apple only claims to push MobileMe mail not every mail service out. I think RIM is the same if my memory is correct, it may have changed but I know when I sent my buddy's BB up 2 years ago we had to forward/POP everything to his GMAIL and there forward it to his BB address.

So basically what I'm hearing. Is that even with Gmail it truly won't be a "push" because Gmail only checks your POP accounts at random times.

I think for now I will use the Gmail service with my Iphone, no point in paying the $99 for mobile me if it's not going to be a true push service.

Am I correct in thinking this ?

anthonymoody
Jul 13, 2008, 08:54 PM
None of these methods work for me as the "main" email address I'm trying to use is not a gmail address. (For the record, I tried it with my gmail address and get the same problem - no way to *automatically, for every reply* have it default to a "from" address other than the me.com address.

Yes - you *can* hit the grayed-out "from" field, bring up the scroll wheel, and select a different from address. But having to do that every single time I reply to a message very much reduces the usefulness of push. I may as well just wait for the 15 minute intervals...

I'm happy enough with OTA calendar/contact syncing, but really wish Apple would provide a very simple way to change the default "from" address so that me.com could operate seamlessly in the BG...

TM

Faye
Jul 14, 2008, 01:58 AM
This seems to be the best way at the moment. I hope that Apple see the light and either add MX capability for "personal domains", being able to map user@personal.domain to a mobileme account or just allow sending from an address you've confirmed as belonging to you.

On your mac, in the mobile me account, add your other email address comma separated:

email address: me@me.com, me@mydomain.com

Add the SMTP server which handles me@mydomain.com.

On your iphone, add an imap/pop account for me@mydomain.com but once it's configured, and you've read any outstanding mail, break the incoming mail server hostname. I just changed imap to imp. You can also change the Fetch setting (in advanced) to Manual for that account, but if you don't also break the incoming mail then as soon as you open mail app, it will check mail for all accounts and you'll get another new mail notification.

Then, as others have already posted, you have to change the from: address before you post.

I really just wish that Apple would allow sending from verified accounts.

MacPeach
Jul 14, 2008, 03:14 AM
check out:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1152?locale=de_DE

However, today suddenly, my emails are working again.

NJRonbo
Jul 14, 2008, 03:33 AM
Something I would like to add to Faye's post...

If you are using GMAIL to forward mail to your MobileMe devices,
you can reply to email on your iPhone with your personal POP
account of choice by doing the following....

On the GMAIL webpage go to SETTINGS -> ACCOUNT

Make your personal POP address the DEFAULT account

In iPhone, go to your MobileMe settings and turn off smtp.mac.com
and turn on or add smtp.gmail.com

Now any mail you send through the iPhone should have your
default email address that is not associated with .Me or .Mac


What I am now trying to figure out is how to send mail through
Leopard MAIL using my personal POP address now that .Mac/MobileMe
has taken over.

UKmacman
Jul 14, 2008, 04:05 AM
This is crazy. I like everyone else has multiple gmail accounts that I forward to mobileme which pulls them on my iphone.

However sometimes, even though my other accounts are set to manual check, sometimes an email pops up in here.

What is the point of the default 'sent from' email address option if everytime it always goes from the .me account.

If I could set one master default (not.me) and then just have to change it for using other accounts then this would be better as 85% of my emails are sent from one account.

Any thoughts on what the default email address sent from is for?

UKmacman
Jul 14, 2008, 04:38 AM
Okay, I know I just posted last but I think I have found some missing information:

I have my default email set to myname@mydomain.com (which I use for 85% of my emails)

However when I get an email (to any account via mobileme) and go to reply it still says it is sending from myname@me.com

Obviously I can chose my email to send from but this is a hassle.

But I just ran a test and although it says it is sending from myname@me.com - it actually shows as being sent from the default email.

So the default email setting does work - it just doesn't look like it does

Kinda pleased here!!!

EnderTW
Jul 14, 2008, 04:58 AM
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=521248

ultimate guide check it out.

richard.mac
Jul 14, 2008, 05:05 AM
^thanks EnderTW!

ksgordo
Jul 14, 2008, 01:22 PM
Problem is that you can only fetch mail from one external account. Many of us have many professional email accounts for different segments of our business.

There is some discussion of this at

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080709200435121

that you might find useful.

Edrubin
Jul 14, 2008, 05:16 PM
Here is what I did. I have all my email addresses set up in mail app on phone and mac. I have my gmail, my own domain, and my college email forwarded to mobileme. I have on each of the email settings set them to archive the emails forwarded to them so I do not receive an email in the specific email as well as mobile me.
When replying to an email forwarded to mobile me on your phone just click the "from" field and a pop up scroll wheel will let you choose other outgoing servers that are on your fun like gmail or a college email. It works great!