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macDonalds
Jul 15, 2008, 07:51 AM
MobileMe was launched last Thursday. All of the features have been buggy at best and it's now Tuesday. No word from Apple. Very disappointing.

So here I am Apple. I have $99 that I would like to give you per year for your service. At the very least, I would like a public statement that you're aware of the all the issues and are working to resolve it ASAP. If the service isn't up and working 100% by the end of today without a public acknowledgement, I will be canceling my trial.

Hopefully others will do the same.



filmguy15
Jul 15, 2008, 08:00 AM
CUT TO
Steve Jobs getting up in the morning, still not caring.

If the MAJORITY of users take issue with something that Apple does, they will usually address and fix it. Whether you like it or not, you, and EVERYONE on these forums are still not the majority. Just a very small minority in the grand scheme of things. Get over yourselves, these "I'm boycotting" threads mean nothing.

freedevil
Jul 15, 2008, 08:02 AM
Start emailing Steve Jobs if possible.

BillyBobBongo
Jul 15, 2008, 08:04 AM
Start emailing Steve Jobs if possible.

I'm sure SJ is aware of the issues.

Patience is what is required here people. These things will all get sorted.....patience!

macDonalds
Jul 15, 2008, 08:06 AM
I'm sure SJ is aware of the issues.

Patience is what is required here people. These things will all get sorted.....patience!

I agree, patience. However, they need to acknowledge and give us some kind of timeline. Give me that, and my patience will be restored.

freedevil
Jul 15, 2008, 08:07 AM
I'm sure SJ is aware of the issues.

Patience is what is required here people. These things will all get sorted.....patience!

Can't be anymore patient 5 days of downtime on Homepages is not normal. I'd love to publish to mobileme and get access to my galleries.

Sky Blue
Jul 15, 2008, 08:07 AM
It took years for .Mac to function corectly, and even then it wasn't that great. It's funny how people expect it to work in a couple of days.

macDonalds
Jul 15, 2008, 08:08 AM
Start emailing Steve Jobs if possible.

I already have, but his assistant is on vacation and therefore he's not getting any emails pushed to him.

His assistant is in charge of manually synching his emails, calendar, and contacts.

macDonalds
Jul 15, 2008, 08:09 AM
It took years for .Mac to function corectly, and even then it wasn't that great. It's funny how people expect it to work in a couple of days.

Wow really? I never looked into .Mac. That's horrid, and I commend you for bending over and taking it in the rear.

freedevil
Jul 15, 2008, 08:09 AM
I already have, but his assistant is on vacation and therefore he's not getting any emails pushed to him.

His assistant is in charge of manually synching his emails, calendar, and contacts.

That douche!

hexonxonx
Jul 15, 2008, 08:09 AM
I don't plan on canceling any time soon. It is working exactly the way I expected it to. I wanted it for the push feature with my iPhone and it works very well.

Penguinwrangler
Jul 15, 2008, 08:10 AM
You people are nuts. You launch a product when it works. PERIOD.


MobileMe does not meet virtually any of the standards that it's own marketing sets for itself, therefore it does not work, therefore it should not have been released into the wild in its current state. PERIOD.

Are they going to fix it? Probably. Will it be a timely fix? Probably not.

Am I going to twiddle my thumbs and stare at my non-existent webmail while they get around to fixing it? Hell no.

sammy2066
Jul 15, 2008, 08:10 AM
Steve Jobs couldn't care less about our problems. He's not answerable to anyone. I still remember how he fooled people at the 3G iPhone launch.

Oooh, we learnt soo much from the 1st iPhone. So we're making the new one from plastic, it's beautiful. BOOM!

Wow ... great justification Steve, hats off to you.

Contacts Searching ... BOOM!
Landscape Calculator ... BOOM!
Mass Delete Email!! ... OMG BOOM!

Seriously Steve, take a look around you. I've had contacts searching on a phone that I used in 1998.

Apple needs to seriously stop smelling their own farts, and get back to making quality products.

snakedoctor
Jul 15, 2008, 08:11 AM
CUT TO
Steve Jobs getting up in the morning, still not caring.

If the MAJORITY of users take issue with something that Apple does, they will usually address and fix it. Whether you like it or not, you, and EVERYONE on these forums are still not the majority. Just a very small minority in the grand scheme of things. Get over yourselves, these "I'm boycotting" threads mean nothing.

Great attitude brother. I think people are really starting to complain and they are doing it here....

http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=116

I cant even get the MobileMe Mail, under the www.me.com section to open its so hammered right now.

Error

An error in the system has occurred. Please contact the system administrator if the problem persists.

Useful links :


In there are some serious long threads and some people that are using some choice words on Apples own site. Its Tuesday now and some people that used their webmail daily probably have not been able to since Friday/Saturday. I bet they are thinking that free Gmail account is looking much better than their $99 a year .mac account at this point.

Sadly MacRumors and Appleinsider should have this on their front page, if they were not such huge fan boys.

pooryou
Jul 15, 2008, 08:11 AM
I can't cancel because I was never interested enough to sign up in the first place.

Sky Blue
Jul 15, 2008, 08:12 AM
Wow really? I never looked into .Mac. That's horrid, and I commend you for bending over and taking it in the rear.

MobileMe is working fine for me. Then again, I'm not one of those people who thought it would magically push all my separate email accounts and make me toast in the mornings.

macDonalds
Jul 15, 2008, 08:14 AM
MobileMe is working fine for me. Then again, I'm not one of those people who thought it would magically push all my separate email accounts and make me toast in the mornings.

http://www.sallys-place.com/food/columns/zonis/Best_Cookie-20.jpg

richard.mac
Jul 15, 2008, 08:14 AM
… So we're making the new one from plastic, it's beautiful. BOOM! …

… I've had contacts searching on a phone that I used in 1998. …

WTH are you talking about? the back is plastic as metal cases interfere with signals and there is contact searching in 2.0!

freedevil
Jul 15, 2008, 08:15 AM
MobileMe is working fine for me.

How so? Besides Push and Sync what is working? Groups is down, home pages can't be published, Idisk is often unreachable laggy and slow. Mobileme mail keeps getting disconnected and giving random errors of not being able to connect. Heck system preferences Mobileme randomly said my password has changed please enter a new one.

tampaappleman
Jul 15, 2008, 08:19 AM
MobileMe was launched last Thursday. All of the features have been buggy at best and it's now Tuesday. No word from Apple. Very disappointing.

So here I am Apple. I have $99 that I would like to give you per year for your service. At the very least, I would like a public statement that you're aware of the all the issues and are working to resolve it ASAP. If the service isn't up and working 100% by the end of today without a public acknowledgement, I will be canceling my trial.

Hopefully others will do the same.

Thank you for reading my mind. You are absolutely right. This situation is ridiculous. However Apple doesn't read this forum you will have to do a formal complaint on their feedback website.

Sky Blue
Jul 15, 2008, 08:23 AM
Idisk is often unreachable laggy and slow. Mobileme mail keeps getting disconnected and giving random errors of not being able to connect.

iDisk has always been laggy and slow. iTools mail used to disconnect, then .Mac mail used to disconnect and now MobileMe mail disconnects.
I'm not saying this is acceptable but this is the way it's always been. I don't expect it to change.

sammy2066
Jul 15, 2008, 08:31 AM
WTH are you talking about? the back is plastic as metal cases interfere with signals and there is contact searching in 2.0!


Alright, lets consider the plastic back as a technical constraint. The glaring lack of other features like MMS, SMS forwarding, Video recording, Cut/Paste support, SMS counters, SMS delivery receipts and so on is simply unacceptable .

And yes, I know 2.0 has contacts searching. It should have been there from Day 1.

The damn device cannot even cancel sending a text if you push the "Send" button by mistake.

So much for an enterprise device.

terryblyth
Jul 15, 2008, 08:33 AM
Apple can take as long as they need to to sort things out. It's obviously a nightmare of a situation, and I would hate to be in the depths of Cupertino where this is trying to get sorted. Everybody dealing with this at Apple has my utmost sympathy!

HOWEVER. To not keep people informed (or even to say "bear with us, we have teething problems") is unacceptable. As it stands, as the problems aren't acknowledged, there's nothing stopping people from assuming that the way it is is the way it will be. To say MobileMe is working fine when for a sizeable minority of people it clearly isn't is IMHO plain wrong, and does nothing to endear Apple to either new or existing users.

macDonalds
Jul 15, 2008, 08:36 AM
Apple can take as long as they need to to sort things out. It's obviously a nightmare of a situation, and I would hate to be in the depths of Cupertino where this is trying to get sorted. Everybody dealing with this at Apple has my utmost sympathy!

HOWEVER. To not keep people informed (or even to say "bear with us, we have teething problems") is unacceptable. As it stands, as the problems aren't acknowledged, there's nothing stopping people from assuming that the way it is is the way it will be. To say MobileMe is working fine when for a sizeable minority of people it clearly isn't is IMHO plain wrong, and does nothing to endear Apple to either new or existing users.

EXACTLY!

With no acknowledgement, I'm going to assume that your service, as buggy as it is, will remain that way for the foreseeable future.

benmrii
Jul 15, 2008, 08:43 AM
iDisk has always been one of the worst options for online storage. "Slow" doesn't do the pain of using it justice. I use it as a third backup for my very important documents. Beyond that, worthless. And get used to having trouble connecting to Mail, web or mail clients. That's pretty standard for this service.

MobileMe - just as .Mac was - is pretty packaging around options that are available elsewhere, almost always done better, and more often than not free. The only feature that MobileMe has introduced that hasn't been available elsewhere already for years is the seamless syncing between iCal, Outlook and the website (and that may actually work in the next few months).

It's worth the money to me because I like to simplify and use Apple products. But it's not a miracle add-on, it's not innovative, and how it's working now doesn't surprise me at all. That isn't a fanboi response or accepting how bad it is right now, just a comment that it is not unexpected for those of us who have been using it's predecessor since launch.

sananda
Jul 15, 2008, 08:47 AM
iDisk has always been one of the worst options for online storage. "Slow" doesn't do the pain of using it justice. I use it as a third backup for my very important documents. Beyond that, worthless.

which is why the storage upgrades are meaningless.

BillyBobBongo
Jul 15, 2008, 08:49 AM
which is why the storage upgrades are meaningless.

Aye...I loved that bit...

"and we're gonna give you 20GB storage"

....whoopee...even more time to spend waiting for things to upload!

DeaconGraves
Jul 15, 2008, 08:57 AM
If the service isn't up and working 100% by the end of today without a public acknowledgement, I will be canceling my trial.

Hopefully others will do the same.

Seems kind of silly to cancel one's trial about 50 days before it expires.

If you're frustrated with the service, that's understandable. Don't use it for a bit. Go back to how things were a few days ago. Check in periodically to see if there have been improvements. And by all means, flood the Apple feedback box with your gripes.

If the service hypothetically improves to the point where you find the service essential (maybe it will, maybe it won't), it would stink to miss out on those free days.

That being said, if at the end of the trial things aren't still up to your standards, get the hell out of there.

benmrii
Jul 15, 2008, 09:11 AM
which is why the storage upgrades are meaningless.

That's basically my point, said well and much more succinctly than I'm ever able. :rolleyes:

Almost every feature Apple touted when introducing MobileMe I kept thinking, "Wow, ______ already does that for free." "Ummm... _____ has been doing that for years." They talk it up, put a pretty bow on it, and charge you. Basically the answer is, if the @me.com email address + having those features set up by putting your password once in System Preferences vs. having a few webpages bookmarked, go for it. But I'd spend the time left on your trial account figuring what about MobileMe attracts you most and compare those features to other options for using them.

MobileMe is to calendars, contacts and email as AOL is to ISPs. It's sub-par features and service delivered prettier (for us aesthetic folks) and easier (for those who wouldn't use those services otherwise) at a significantly higher price.

marmiteturkey
Jul 15, 2008, 10:50 AM
That's basically my point, said well and much more succinctly than I'm ever able. :rolleyes:

Almost every feature Apple touted when introducing MobileMe I kept thinking, "Wow, ______ already does that for free." "Ummm... _____ has been doing that for years." They talk it up, put a pretty bow on it, and charge you. Basically the answer is, if the @me.com email address + having those features set up by putting your password once in System Preferences vs. having a few webpages bookmarked, go for it. But I'd spend the time left on your trial account figuring what about MobileMe attracts you most and compare those features to other options for using them.

MobileMe is to calendars, contacts and email as AOL is to ISPs. It's sub-par features and service delivered prettier (for us aesthetic folks) and easier (for those who wouldn't use those services otherwise) at a significantly higher price.

If what you say is true, I'd be really happy - but how can I sync my outlook (Exchange-based, but we don't have ActiveSync at work) with my ical and address book at home? I can't find another way to do this effectively (tried calgoo and it's so sloow)...

scanez
Jul 15, 2008, 12:35 PM
Almost every feature Apple touted when introducing MobileMe I kept thinking, "Wow, ______ already does that for free." "Ummm... _____ has been doing that for years."
Could you please fill in those blanks to let me know how I can have push/sync with my iphone and macbook? If not, then stop making such generalizations.

umgolfer
Jul 15, 2008, 01:49 PM
Could you please fill in those blanks to let me know how I can have push/sync with my iphone and macbook? If not, then stop making such generalizations.

:)

benmrii
Jul 15, 2008, 02:01 PM
Could you please fill in those blanks to let me know how I can have push/sync with my iphone and macbook? If not, then stop making such generalizations.

For the iPhone, Microsoft Exchange. For your MacBook, I really hope you don't need me to show you some of the dozens of options for that.

Yes, the push feature is nice, but make a list of what MobileMe offers and about 90% of it is nothing new, and nothing you can't find elsewhere that is usually much cheaper if not free. You're paying to have it combined, easier and prettier.

Diaresi
Jul 15, 2008, 02:03 PM
Email: Gmail
Calendar: Google Calendar - just go to it in Safari
Contacts: Gmail

Done

As many have been saying on this thread: less pretty, less integrated, but each does the job better than MobileMe and it doesn't cost you anything...and doesn't go down repeatedly!

NJPitcher
Jul 15, 2008, 02:18 PM
I already have, but his assistant is on vacation and therefore he's not getting any emails pushed to him.

His assistant is in charge of manually synching his emails, calendar, and contacts.

Hah, has nothing to do with his assistant - he's not getting any emails pushed to him because his MobileMe isn't working with his iPhone!

Haha, I slay me...

scanez
Jul 15, 2008, 02:44 PM
You're paying to have it combined, easier and prettier.Well, DUH! I'll gladly pay $99 a year to have it combined, easier, and prettier + push (or do you have an exchange server I could use?) that "just works" (which for me it does).

Loge
Jul 15, 2008, 04:47 PM
And not everyone wants to look at ads all the time either.

d21mike
Jul 15, 2008, 05:09 PM
For the iPhone, Microsoft Exchange.

You said for FREE. My understanding is you would have to pay for a Hosted Exchange Account. I have looked into it and I could only find services for between $5 and $12 per month. Do you know of a reliable FREE Exchange Host Service? And what features do you get?

macDonalds
Jul 15, 2008, 07:02 PM
Ah, and so another day comes and go without stable, consistent functionality from MobileMe. I will however, as someone suggested, hold on to my remaining trial and pop in from time to time. For now though, I'm done with it. Good luck to those who are beta testing the service for the rest of us :)

benmrii
Jul 15, 2008, 10:04 PM
Well, DUH! I'll gladly pay $99 a year to have it combined, easier, and prettier + push (or do you have an exchange server I could use?) that "just works" (which for me it does).

You really ought to try reading the entire thread before trying to make fun of someone. Aside from being a fellow MobileMe user I've already said that if you want to use it for those reasons you should, but don't expect anything unique or innovative except for the ease of multiple computer syncing (which doesn't work yet). And yes, for $50 a year I'll get you set up on my Exchange server and show you a dozen free web-based apps that do nearly everything else MobileMe gives you.

Although I don't think it is worth $99, personally. But to each their own.

You said for FREE. My understanding is you would have to pay for a Hosted Exchange Account. I have looked into it and I could only find services for between $5 and $12 per month. Do you know of a reliable FREE Exchange Host Service? And what features do you get?

Show me where I said everything was free and I'll show you where you edited my posts. I've only ever said that nearly everything was available elsewhere for free. Obviously push email to the iPhone is not one of them, but that list is significantly shorter than what is available for free.

ejeremy98
Jul 15, 2008, 11:10 PM
what lucky people all of your are just to be using the trial. what about us poor saps who bought .Mac before all this crap and now are suffering without any of the features we had up until last week...oh that by the way we are STILL PAYING FOR.

snakedoctor
Jul 15, 2008, 11:31 PM
Email: Gmail
Calendar: Google Calendar - just go to it in Safari
Contacts: Gmail

Done

As many have been saying on this thread: less pretty, less integrated, but each does the job better than MobileMe and it doesn't cost you anything...and doesn't go down repeatedly!

So it comes down to paying for convenience and that is just about it.

I have a Gmail account and for IMAP is so very frustrating with this labels/folders/allmail folder, making sure you DONT send stuff to your sent items server folder/deleted folder via your fat client (Mail app, Outlook) or you get dupes. Yes it works good and fast but so very confusing, unless you POP it but then you loose IMAP features.

Google Contacts.......that is funny. Adds every email address you ever sent to, into your contacts. How exactly do you sync your Google contacts with Address book or Outlook????

Gmail Calendars, great plane jane iCal compliant calendar, nothing great, but nothing bad.

What this discussion has not covered is the massive intergration with iLife apps, like posting photos to web galleries from iPhoto. No going to Flickr and then using Finder/File manager to upload photos, with adds and a craptastic looking website.

It easy of use/single sign-on, single vendor, massive intergration, pretty looks for you and the people you share with (web galleries), syncing of many items, and ADD FREE. To get all of that you got to pay. Dont like it then dont pay.

Fozziebear40
Jul 16, 2008, 02:39 AM
It easy of use/single sign-on, single vendor, massive intergration, pretty looks for you and the people you share with (web galleries), syncing of many items, and ADD FREE. To get all of that you got to pay. Dont like it then dont pay.

Yes that's what I want, that's what I pay for .mac. Just let us know when it will be fixed and working properly Apple!

Communication!