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kingcrowing
Jul 16, 2008, 07:47 PM
Hey just thought I'd post this.
My University ordered a bunch of MacBook Pros on July 1st, and we've just been notified that they haven't shipped yet, however the macbooks from that order have. And the new MacBook Pros aren't shipping until the 21st. Could this be the Centrino 2 update everyone's been waiting for?
Not sure but it could be!



Tallest Skil
Jul 16, 2008, 07:48 PM
The 22nd's a Tuesday....

Holy frig, that's a definite MAYBE!

Biggest maybe I've seen yet!

schmidt190
Jul 17, 2008, 12:28 AM
it would be cool if this happened to other people who ordered july 1st...
anyone?..

bc008
Jul 17, 2008, 12:30 AM
you said it was a uni that ordered.. could it simply be because of the mass order?

swordth
Jul 17, 2008, 12:31 AM
I ordered mine the 8th of july, but it wasn't delayed or anything, in fact it got delivered today.

So I'm gonna guess it's something else, probably what bc008 said.

schmidt190
Jul 17, 2008, 12:33 AM
I ordered mine the 8th of july, but it wasn't delayed or anything, in fact it got delivered today.

So I'm gonna guess it's something else, probably what bc008 said.

doesnt it take longer to ship if its customized?

swordth
Jul 17, 2008, 12:34 AM
doesnt it take longer to ship if its customized?

I think so, but I don't think the university would order a bunch of custom made ones. I figure they'd order the stock versions.

sammy2066
Jul 17, 2008, 12:35 AM
I guess the university placed a massive order ... but it still does not rule out a refresh.

schmidt190
Jul 17, 2008, 12:36 AM
I think so, but I don't think the university would order a bunch of custom made ones. I figure they'd order the stock versions.

depends which university i guess..

swordth
Jul 17, 2008, 12:38 AM
I guess the university placed a massive order ... but it still does not rule out a refresh.


Doesn't make sense to me that the university would get delayed for the refresh, and not me..who ordered a week later :rolleyes:

yien
Jul 17, 2008, 01:09 AM
I thought I would mention the printer deal expires 7/22 also.

sttrek341
Jul 17, 2008, 01:13 AM
I thought I would mention the printer deal expires 7/22 also.

another one will most likely be starting after that, they usually do.

SchneiderMan
Jul 17, 2008, 01:27 AM
The 22nd's a Tuesday....

Holy frig, that's a definite MAYBE!

Biggest maybe I've seen yet!

lol for once your optimistic :D

jjahshik32
Jul 17, 2008, 01:40 AM
It could be a mixture of both reasonings. University had a massive order so it will ship when they get enough montevina mbp! :p

And the person who ordered one recently was just 1 order which was much easier to fill so they shipped it right away. :eek: :apple:

LinMac
Jul 17, 2008, 01:56 AM
It wouldn't surprise me for the update to come in the form of a small refresh to the Macbook Pro line. Apple might not even have a keynote or announcement for the design changes. It isn't really necessary given the massive amount of attention that Apple gets on websites such as Macrumors.com and other general gadget websites.

Thinking back does anyone remember there being a big announcement from Apple regarding the multitouch changes to the Macbook Pro line?

TtimeWithTy
Jul 17, 2008, 02:01 AM
The 22nd's a Tuesday....

Holy frig, that's a definite MAYBE!

Biggest maybe I've seen yet!

yeah seriously lol, weren't you the one who said no new updates till 2009 or something? i remember your avatar haha. whats with the sudden change of thought?

fleshman03
Jul 17, 2008, 02:09 AM
For what it's worth, here is my 2 cents.

Silent refresh on the 22nd or around there with Montevina.

Case redesign w/ Nehalem whenever SJ decides he likes us.

SchneiderMan
Jul 17, 2008, 02:10 AM
yeah seriously lol, weren't you the one who said no new updates till 2009 or something? i remember your avatar haha. whats with the sudden change of thought?

lol true true

i also remember that crazy avatar :D

darrenscerri
Jul 17, 2008, 02:18 AM
We'll just wait till the 22nd and see if this MAYBE is true!

For what it's worth, here is my 2 cents.

Silent refresh on the 22nd or around there with Montevina.

Case redesign w/ Nehalem whenever SJ decides he likes us.

Just a side question... Is it worth it to wait a year or so for Nehalem? Will it be such dramatic improvement over the current (or Montevina) MBs that it makes it worth it to stay a year without a MB?

SchneiderMan
Jul 17, 2008, 02:24 AM
We'll just wait till the 22nd and see if this MAYBE is true!



Just a side question... Is it worth it to wait a year or so for Nehalem? Will it be such dramatic improvement over the current (or Montevina) MBs that it makes it worth it to stay a year without a MB?

no, not worth the wait to me..

fleshman03
Jul 17, 2008, 02:26 AM
We'll just wait till the 22nd and see if this MAYBE is true!



Just a side question... Is it worth it to wait a year or so for Nehalem? Will it be such dramatic improvement over the current (or Montevina) MBs that it makes it worth it to stay a year without a MB?

It's supposed to be a 20-30% increase over the best chips today.

I'd think it might be a little better than that, if you give it another 3 months after the first release. That's what I'm thinking I'm going to do.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3326&p=9

jjahshik32
Jul 17, 2008, 02:28 AM
Maybe a complete redesign with the nehalem mbp in 09?

LinMac
Jul 17, 2008, 02:31 AM
Eh.. I want some shiny new kit now and then I'll want some new shiny kit when Nehalem is released so it isn't a big deal for me.

I just sold my Santa Rosa Macbook Pro and I'll sell the Montevina Macbook Pro when Nehalem is about to be released.

Shiny new kit is like giving yourself a Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Birthday, Easter, just because gift to yourself in the form of a big snuggly hug. Yeah.. I said it. :D

peapody
Jul 17, 2008, 03:34 AM
I think so, but I don't think the university would order a bunch of custom made ones. I figure they'd order the stock versions.

My school mass ordered dells for their students way before school started...some students still went without their orders a few weeks into the school year.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but customized or not, mass orders take a while to complete.

Apple Ink
Jul 17, 2008, 03:38 AM
So it'll be a plane shift to montevina and no case redesigns then?:confused:

Apple Ink
Jul 17, 2008, 03:43 AM
We'll just wait till the 22nd and see if this MAYBE is true!



Just a side question... Is it worth it to wait a year or so for Nehalem? Will it be such dramatic improvement over the current (or Montevina) MBs that it makes it worth it to stay a year without a MB?

If you're needs are urgent... no!
If you can do with your old notebook, yes its definitely worth the wait and its gonna be even better than when Apple upgraded to C2D from CD!

Calpella (Mobile Nehalem) will bring in lots and lots of features and trash many of the old Intel characteristics (like separate Memory controller and FSB hassles) too!:D

iknowgungfu
Jul 17, 2008, 03:53 AM
that would be fine by me...I am just going to sit and wait (here in the UK) until September ish I think.

furious
Jul 17, 2008, 03:55 AM
nehalem will also bring Blu-Ray

Tallest Skil
Jul 17, 2008, 06:01 AM
yeah seriously lol, weren't you the one who said no new updates till 2009 or something? i remember your avatar haha. whats with the sudden change of thought?

I said 2009 for Nehalem at all and Q3 2009 for Nehalem notebooks.

The sudden change of thought comes from the fact that my mom wants one because I need a better laptop than my G3 iBook for Ireland, but the 22nd is the last day she'll let me wait (I'm so going to get another week out of that)

You're all right, though. Bulk order; takes time; just shipping now...

Nehalem will also bring Blu-ray

Not seeing it. As in... ever. (Aww, he's back...)

Jwizzman
Jul 17, 2008, 06:32 AM
I'm in the waiting boat as well so let's hope this is true 'cause I could really use it sooner then later.

masse
Jul 17, 2008, 07:09 AM
They don't really need a press event in my opinion. most of the people that will watch that event are also the same people who will know about the new laptops already. A single commercial aired during sex in the city will get a lot more attention than a small press event.

Although I like watching the events, and I'm probably wrong.

In summary: "cool".

kingcrowing
Jul 17, 2008, 07:25 AM
Well for the record (forums were down last night when I tried to check back) I know that the order is fairly small, like less than 50 and they are all stock 2.4 MBPs.

Yes my University had a few Dells that came in after the semester started (I work for the Universities Computer Depot so I was around then) but most of those people ordered their laptops at the way end of the summer so that's why they came so late last year. but these were ordered June, 1 like I said so it's really hard to say.

i'm agreeing with this thread now, that its probably a silent update to Centrino 2/montevina and then next year they'll do a redesign to the macbook air-style with nalhem.

I'll keep you guys posted!

Stang68
Jul 17, 2008, 09:00 AM
Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.50 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/4.1.11328/542; U; en))

I would love for the new MBP to come out on the 22nd because then I would have it before my trip to LA. Thatd be great. If not the 22nd, then most liekly the 29th.

lordthistle
Jul 17, 2008, 09:52 AM
So I visit the apple store, I like THIS MBP, I decide to purchase it and then I receive something else? It is NOT possible. I prefer NOT to think that you order a piece and receive something different. Is it possible with the mighty apple?

Do NOT believe that everyone would rather receive the refreshed version than the current one.

thistle

cg165
Jul 17, 2008, 10:55 AM
For what it's worth, here is my 2 cents.

Silent refresh on the 22nd or around there with Montevina.

Case redesign w/ Nehalem whenever SJ decides he likes us.

I'm guessing you didn't see this then:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/07/09/apples_next_gen_macbook_pro_casing_design_revealed.html

That's the supposedly confirmed new macbook pro case to be released (hopefully) soon.

peapody
Jul 17, 2008, 11:41 AM
I'm guessing you didn't see this then:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/07/09/apples_next_gen_macbook_pro_casing_design_revealed.html

That's the supposedly confirmed new macbook pro case to be released (hopefully) soon.

I don't get your post. The poster talked about the case redesign so he obviously saw that.

What kind of publicity do silent refreshes get? Are they really "silent"?

Tallest Skil
Jul 17, 2008, 11:43 AM
What kind of publicity do silent refreshes get? Are they really "silent"?

None, otherwise they're not called silent. Anything for which Apple has a physical release with people introducing it is not silent.

lhotka
Jul 17, 2008, 12:17 PM
nehalem will also bring Blu-Ray

Only if they fix the power-sucking nature of the drives by then.

As for waiting for Nehalem vs buying montivena:

1) First release of a completely new architecture is likely to have more problems than incremental chipset change

2) Depends on what you have now: Powerbook, don't wait. Original MBP, don't wait. Early Core 2 Duo MBP? Depends (I'm getting Montivena), February refresh MBP? Wait. But mostly it depends on how much disposable income you have. :D

I still stand by my prediction: Late July/Early August most likely, incremental release: new CPU, new FSB, maybe new GPU, no blue-ray, maybe new high-res 15" option, maybe esata, but nothing earthshattering. Second option is a Q4 (October) release to pad the Q4 revenue as iPhone idiocy dies down.

Macworld 2010: Nethlam and major redesign (guts at least, maybe case).

Tallest Skil
Jul 17, 2008, 12:21 PM
...new high-res 15" option...

I hope that you mean 1680x1050 instead of 1920x1200.

kingcrowing
Jul 17, 2008, 01:43 PM
1920x1200 is awesome on a 15.4", I had it on my old D830

Oroak
Jul 17, 2008, 02:39 PM
Well it's interesting that July 21 happens to be Apple's Q3 Financial results (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/17/apples-q3-2008-financial-results-on-july-21st/). Maybe they have some bad news and new MBPs will ease the pain... Ahhh here's to hoping.

peejack
Jul 17, 2008, 02:51 PM
So it'll be a plane shift to montevina and no case redesigns then?:confused:

That would be great :)

Hi res for the 15" would be awesome.

Tosser
Jul 17, 2008, 03:00 PM
That would be great :)

Hi res for the 15" would be awesome.

Yes, Hi res is about time. The Thinkpad X300 (13") has the same res as my MBP.

dcdude
Jul 17, 2008, 03:57 PM
I'm guessing you didn't see this then:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/07/09/apples_next_gen_macbook_pro_casing_design_revealed.html

That's the supposedly confirmed new macbook pro case to be released (hopefully) soon.

seriously i fail to see why so many people are going crazy over this ONE IMAGE

it appeared on some random chinese blog, it barely looks like a redesign at all, and all of a sudden it's the confirmed macbook pro case?

the current case looks better anyway

darrenscerri
Jul 17, 2008, 03:58 PM
If you're needs are urgent... no!
If you can do with your old notebook, yes its definitely worth the wait and its gonna be even better than when Apple upgraded to C2D from CD!

Calpella (Mobile Nehalem) will bring in lots and lots of features and trash many of the old Intel characteristics (like separate Memory controller and FSB hassles) too!:D

Let me clarify my situation.... I do not have a laptop, and I am a student attending college. A laptop is not currently a need but more like a greed (yeah I was a WoW addict). Nehalem will be availble a year from now... Is it worth to wait a year without a laptop just to have a Nehalem laptop? Or is it more worth it to buy my first Mac machine (MB or MBP) and I live with it for like 3 years, than when the time comes I'll update with what Apple has as a notebook at that time....

kingshrubb
Jul 17, 2008, 05:15 PM
That would be great :)

Hi res for the 15" would be awesome.

YES! I would definitely buy the 15" MBP (instead of 17") with hi res if they offered it for portability.

cg165
Jul 18, 2008, 07:38 AM
I don't get your post. The poster talked about the case redesign so he obviously saw that.

What kind of publicity do silent refreshes get? Are they really "silent"?

I honestly don't get your post either. The poster talked about a case redesign for Nehalem and a silent update for Montevina which are 2 different things/release dates. What I got out of it was he didn't think there would be a case redesign and I just directed him to a post talking about a new case that is supposedly confirmed (for Montevina coming soon)

cg165
Jul 18, 2008, 07:40 AM
seriously i fail to see why so many people are going crazy over this ONE IMAGE

it appeared on some random chinese blog, it barely looks like a redesign at all, and all of a sudden it's the confirmed macbook pro case?

the current case looks better anyway

I know lol, I don't get it either but supposedly it's confirmed. I'm waiting for the next released MBP and the only reason I hope this is true is for a possible better cooling solution or easy access to the hard drive. I wouldn't really care at all if they didn't because the current case looks great.

piimaPAKK
Jul 18, 2008, 07:53 AM
Some sources say that all nVidia 8400M and 8600M (used in MBP) chips are faulty, thats why they might be holding orders.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/10/all-nvidia-8400m-8600m-chips-faulty/

Also that would be one big reason to wait for a refresh.

Yixian
Jul 18, 2008, 08:06 AM
YES! I would definitely buy the 15" MBP (instead of 17") with hi res if they offered it for portability.

Considering Apple are retarded enough to offer the same GPU in both the 15" and 17", only the 15" would be able to run a high res screen to any standard anyway...

masse
Jul 18, 2008, 08:12 AM
I'm not sure I'd like higher resolution as my eyesight isn't that great anymore. I'd hardly notice the difference.

Wingnut330
Jul 18, 2008, 09:05 AM
I'm sure Apple would love to have a release that soon given how the MobileMe / iPhone release went.

I liken it to losing a game in sports...you can't wait to play the next one.