MobileChat coming soon

[hybrid62]

For those of you that are tired of the buggy AIM app look at this.
I took this from their website for those who haven't seen it yet.

Everyone’s been dieing for some feature lists, and while I could list everything that this thing does, it’s pointless to list things that every IM application would have. As a result, here are a few things that stand out in the application:

Server-side connection management
All of your connections will be managed by our servers and as a result, your IM sessions will remain active regardless of your phone’s connectivity options. If you drop coverage or EDGE craps out on you, we’ll keep the connection live until you come back onto our network. This creates a lot of flexibility for those of you who still have terrible network coverage.

Multiple Accounts
Now all of your accounts can be online at one time. You can connect up to 10 accounts over varying networks simultaneously. That means you can have your 3 AIM accounts, your GTalk account and your 2 MSN accounts all connected from your iPhone.

Buddy Icon Support
Set your buddy icon from a picture in your photo library and see your friend’s icons too. A first for MobileChat!

Profiles & Away Messages
Set your profile and view your friend’s or set a personalized away message.

“Push Compatible”
While we can’t enable Push notifications until Apple releases the service to developers in August (hopefully), we have built MC3 to take full advantage of push notifications as soon as they are offered. This will eventually allow you guys to get notified of new IMs even when you have the app closed!

Instant Message a Phone Number
Don’t want to waste those text messages on your plan? Just create a new IM and MobileChat will automatically display your contact list so you can send an IM to any mobile phone number. Once the message has been created, you can have a full “SMS like” conversation without using any text messages.

Buddy Alias
Call them what you want in MobileChat 3. If you want xoangelcutie93810xoxoxo to show up as “Tanya”, that won’t be a problem.


Like I said, it’s not the best feature list, but this does highlight some of the serious improvements of MobileChat 3.

[Cubsfan]

Sounds awesome, but really, I don't think any of these chat clients will be too useful until push is enabled.

When that comes, I'm sold. This going to be a pay for product?

[Mal]

This sounds really cool, and of course will be much better once Push comes in August/September. If it's free or reasonably priced ($4.99?) I'll probably grab it up quickly.

jW

[thefunkymunky]

Website linkage?

[hybrid62]

http://tumblr.twenty08.com/

[razorianfly]

Website linkage?

MobileChat for iPhone - As intended by Cupertino. (http://blog.twenty08.com/mobilechat/)

I can’t give an estimate just yet, but Shaun is hoping to have this submitted to Apple by the end of the week and then have it in App Store by Monday (hopefully).

R-Fly

[jaseone]

This sounds really cool, and of course will be much better once Push comes in August/September. If it's free or reasonably priced ($4.99?) I'll probably grab it up quickly.

jW

As per http://tumblr.twenty08.com/post/42197109/mc3-update

"On another note, we will be charging $2.99 for MobileChat 3."

[bbplayer5]

Extremely good price for such an outstanding app! Hopefully its up today!

[i-John]

Looks like it's the first truly "killer" app for the iPhone. Keeping the connection when not using the app, and when push notification becomes available, and they work... there won't be a need for another IM app. $3 for it is a steal.

[kwjohns]

Don't know if I can justify buying an IM app without the push. I kind of like the idea of this keeping you online all the time but what if someone tries to contact me? I'm not going to be opening my IM every 5 minutes to check messages. So I'm curious if there's a way to disable that.

I may just wait until the push comes out because there will be several instant messengers out by that time leading to more competition and better features for all.

[MacGeek7]

Extremely good price for such an outstanding app! Hopefully its up today!

I’m sad to have to report that MobileChat 3 will NOT be released Monday July 21st and there’s a lot of reasons…

That's from the developer's (http://tumblr.twenty08.com/post/42918457/another-mc3-update) website... I'm looking forward to it though - it looks like a great app

[Badandy]

Looks like it's the first truly "killer" app for the iPhone...

Kill me now.

[Niiro13]

Shame that it was supposed to come out on launch day. Oh well, it's good that they had server problems :P. Cause now they have an Objective-C server instead of Ruby :).

[Sobe]

Even if true, the comments are rather unprofessional and it looks a lot like trying to justify their own delays by contrasting their efforts with Apples.

More appropriate would just be to say they are trying to make their product the best it can be and won't release it until they are satisfied with it.

[Rojo]

Even if true, the comments are rather unprofessional and it looks a lot like trying to justify their own delays by contrasting their efforts with Apples.

More appropriate would just be to say they are trying to make their product the best it can be and won't release it until they are satisfied with it.

While there's definitely some unnecessary Apple-bashing going on (why do developers feel it's wise to make digs at a company they need to work well with?), it's also refreshing to see them be honest about their own screw-ups:

3. We screwed up! These problems are things that could have been avoided had we been better prepared for launch. Our execution was terrible and as a result, it all came down on us at once. We’re a very small company; and this situation is hard on us as we only have limited resources; however, that’s no excuse for terrible planning. We deeply apologize to all of our users and we promise that we will bring you MobileChat 3 as soon as we possibly can!

[kwjohns]

Even if true, the comments are rather unprofessional and it looks a lot like trying to justify their own delays by contrasting their efforts with Apples.

More appropriate would just be to say they are trying to make their product the best it can be and won't release it until they are satisfied with it.

Yeah I find it funny where a few posts back they're trashing Apple's release and here they are having all these problems.

[ViViDboarder]

Yeah I find it funny where a few posts back they're trashing Apple's release and here they are having all these problems.

I don't. The explained the didn't want to release it with problems. Hence them holding out until it's done. Something EA games never does. :D

[Sobe]

I don't. The explained the didn't want to release it with problems. Hence them holding out until it's done. Something EA games never does. :D

Except that context is everything. They could have simply done what you said, but they didn't.

Releasing something like Mobilechat vs. iPhone 3g in different colors and memory capacities in many countries as well as a huge software upgrade?

Sure, those are comparable releases...

[ViViDboarder]

Except that context is everything. They could have simply done what you said, but they didn't.

Releasing something like Mobilechat vs. iPhone 3g in different colors and memory capacities in many countries as well as a huge software upgrade?

Sure, those are comparable releases...

Yea, they took an unnecessary stab at Apple. I don't know why. I'm happy with my iPhone 3G experience so far. :D There are several bugs (apps crashing to hard restarts) but so did my MBP when I got it, haha. Hardly an excuse. :D

[wronski]

I don't see how everyone in the iPhone forums can whine about issues but they can't. It's not like this group is some big company jabbing at Apple, "they" are likely 2 or 3 normal people making an iPhone app in their free time. There's a big difference when it comes to responsibility and expectations to do things well.

[Diversion]

I hope that this upcoming Push service means that when my phone is off, I can hit the Home button and see whether or not a message is waiting for me in AIM/MSN/etc. without having to unlock my phone completely to see a number on top of the program icon nto signify this.

If I can't tell without having to completely unlock, this push will still remain crap for the most part.

[kwjohns]

I don't see how everyone in the iPhone forums can whine about issues but they can't. It's not like this group is some big company jabbing at Apple, "they" are likely 2 or 3 normal people making an iPhone app in their free time. There's a big difference when it comes to responsibility and expectations to do things well.

No one said they couldn't...

[kwjohns]

I don't see how everyone in the iPhone forums can whine about issues but they can't. It's not like this group is some big company jabbing at Apple, "they" are likely 2 or 3 normal people making an iPhone app in their free time. There's a big difference when it comes to responsibility and expectations to do things well.

No one said they couldn't. People said they shouldn't. They're a company. They're to be professional. People on a forum aren't representing a business trying to make money.

[queshy]

hopefully should be here any day now.

Finally - an IM app - so many have been waiting for this. Not everyone uses AIM!

At $2.99, it's a steal.

Can someone clarify this "push" thing for me ? If I understand correctly, this won't be released til later - so in the meantime - as soon as we exit the App, will I be automatically be signed out? Will the push just give you the ability to sort of run this app in the background?

I think it's terrible how the creators of this App are constantly bashing Apple for whatever reason. Apple is being nice enough to give them an incredible way to distribute their App. Tons of people are gonna buy this thing for $2.99. Show some respect.

Either way - I'm pretty disappointed it got delayed.

[AHDuke99]

This will be a good app if/when it actually comes out. They are too busy attacking Apple and making excuses for themselves. It's been delayed now about once a day over and over with a new excuse each time. They were also pretty unprofessional by making a blog post after I said something about them not having their act together telling people not to use their product if we don't like the way they are running their operation. They need to put more time into getting their product out instead of calling out customers.

[queshy]

This will be a good app if/when it actually comes out. They are too busy attacking Apple and making excuses for themselves. It's been delayed now about once a day over and over with a new excuse each time. They were also pretty unprofessional by making a blog post after I said something about them not having their act together telling people not to use their product if we don't like the way they are running their operation. They need to put more time into getting their product out instead of calling out customers.

Agreed. And if they know what's good for them they'll delete all the "comments" and responses and just show their product and leave the comments for the App store...Maybe it will be released tomorrow?

[AHDuke99]

Agreed. And if they know what's good for them they'll delete all the "comments" and responses and just show their product and leave the comments for the App store...Maybe it will be released tomorrow?

Most of the apps that come out tomorrow are released tonight at midnight. Besides, these guys haven't even submitted the app to Apple (they keep saying Apple locked them out of iTunes), so they need to submit it and wait for approval. We won't see this at the earliest till next week, and that's banking on there not being a delay again before it's over with.

[Sobe]

It better be a damned gorgeous piece of software or people simply aren't going to bother given the way they promote themselves.

[marksman]

My understanding of how the push will work is that Apple will have it set up so developers can send a message to the device letting people know that there is something going on.

All developers will share this same access. When the phone receives the message then it will notify the user in whatever manner Apple allows. They have not said at this point how fully integrated or alarming this will be.

It will though, allow developers to signal events to people on their phone to get their attention no matter what they are doing on the device. That is the crux of it.

My understanding, though, is these notifications are going to come from apple serverrs outside the phone. IE push functionality will not be something on the phone, except for the receipt of the notification. The actual notification will be triggered by the developer, sent to an apple server and then to the phone. Someone correct me if my understanding on this is wrong.

[umop apisdn]

as soon as we exit the App, will I be automatically be signed out? Will the push just give you the ability to sort of run this app in the background?

Until push support comes about then that is correct.

For the mean time, i use beejive web app which gives you the option of staying signed in for upto 2hrs when not using it. So if i quit safari or browse to another site then come back to it, as soon as it loads i see all the recieved messages because others still think i'm signed in.

[Niiro13]

Can someone clarify this "push" thing for me ? If I understand correctly, this won't be released til later - so in the meantime - as soon as we exit the App, will I be automatically be signed out? Will the push just give you the ability to sort of run this app in the background?

Either way - I'm pretty disappointed it got delayed.

That's theoretical, however the developers have found a way around that for now.

Currently, when you exit the application, they still keep you logged on in their server. When someone IMs you, they queue the messages up. As soon as you return to the application, you receive the IMs. This also means that IMs can come waaay late depending on how often you return to the program.

Push won't run the application in the background.

Push keeps the connection to the server. It's like what I said above, only instead of queuing the messages, they are immediately sent to the phone (currently, when an application is closed, the connection is shut off...push keeps the connection). So you won't be getting those "Reconnecting" (unless you lose service).

It's better, because if you're running the application in the background, the buddy list is still being updated, people's statuses and icons are changing, etc. But if your application is in the background, what does that matter to you? Useless battery drain and performance drain.

Of course push does not solve the problem of AOL Radio running in the background. That application truly has to run in the background to work.

[queshy]

thanks everyone for the replies to my questions!

Hopefully this app will hit the app store next Monday...my iPhone is hurting without it! The webapps just don't do it since they have to load all the time.

[siurpeeman]

Can someone clarify this "push" thing for me ? If I understand correctly, this won't be released til later - so in the meantime - as soon as we exit the App, will I be automatically be signed out?

looking at the feature list of mobilechat, it looks like they'll keep you signed in using their servers until you open the app again, though you still won't be notified of incoming IMs until the push notification service becomes available.

[joshysquashy]

looking at the feature list of mobilechat, it looks like they'll keep you signed in using their servers until you open the app again, though you still won't be notified of incoming IMs until the push notification service becomes available.

I think if you sign out then you won't stay signed in on the servers. Until push comes, pressing home should sign you out as you won't receive replies.

The big thing is that if signal is lost, for whatever reason - a tunnel etc you won't be signed out. You will stay signed in on their servers and receive all missed messages as soon as you get coverage again. This is a great feature!

[marksman]

I think if you sign out then you won't stay signed in on the servers. Until push comes, pressing home should sign you out as you won't receive replies.

The big thing is that if signal is lost, for whatever reason - a tunnel etc you won't be signed out. You will stay signed in on their servers and receive all missed messages as soon as you get coverage again. This is a great feature!

That sounds good. Will work for the short-term.

[bbplayer5]

Mobile chat is using its own server which will keep you online until you sign off manually (thank god). There is also talk of txt messaging you (as an option) to notify you of a new message.


Please read up on the product before posting ignorant BS. Guessing doesnt help anyone.

[DN7335]

hopefully should be here any day now.

Finally - an IM app - so many have been waiting for this. Not everyone uses AIM!



From the website, this is an AIM only app. No MSN, Yahoo, etc...I'm pretty disappointed...

From their site:

"Using a simplistic approach, keeping a unified GUI in mind, and using the most light weight methods for executing tasks, MobileChat is the premier AIM Application for the iPhone.

Features

AIM Account Support
IM Abilities
Full Buddylist with Statuses
Change status: Away & Online
Suspend and stay online
Sound notifications
Popup Notifications
"

[diesel]

From the website, this is an AIM only app. No MSN, Yahoo, etc...I'm pretty disappointed...

From their site:

"Using a simplistic approach, keeping a unified GUI in mind, and using the most light weight methods for executing tasks, MobileChat is the premier AIM Application for the iPhone.

Features

AIM Account Support
IM Abilities
Full Buddylist with Statuses
Change status: Away & Online
Suspend and stay online
Sound notifications
Popup Notifications
"


If you are referring to mobilechat, your post is not correct. As per their developer when I asked over at his blog, "@Eric: AIM, MSN, GTalk, YIM along with Jabber all work. The price is set at $2.99"

Link:

http://tumblr.twenty08.com/post/42918457/another-mc3-update#disqus_thread

All the major im's will be supported

[Niiro13]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5A347 Safari/525.20)

mobilechat shows aim, jabber, msn, yahoo, and icq in the client list.

[hybrid62]

Since mobile chat hit a delay in being released the developers have added sms alerts. Basically when you close the app you will be alerted by text message when someone sends you a message.

here the link for more information and pics:
http://tumblr.twenty08.com/post/43400591/appstore-delays-mean-more-features

[Justinerator]

Since mobile chat hit a delay in being released the developers have added sms alerts. Basically when you close the app you will be alerted by text message when someone sends you a message.

here the link for more information and pics:
http://tumblr.twenty08.com/post/43400591/appstore-delays-mean-more-features

neat, can't wait to get this! :)

[kanon14]

i really hope this app works as advertised

[SeVeN]

this will support MSN right?

[diesel]

Since mobile chat hit a delay in being released the developers have added sms alerts. Basically when you close the app you will be alerted by text message when someone sends you a message.

here the link for more information and pics:
http://tumblr.twenty08.com/post/43400591/appstore-delays-mean-more-features


This is pretty much usless since its limited to those services like AIM that currently allow you to receive sms messages from your buddies when they message your aim account, assuming you enabled this feature in AIM. You don't need mobilechat or any other service now to do this. In fact, i leave my AIM on at my home account and I receive sms messages to my iphone anytime a buddy messages me, and via sms i can respond to my buddies' messages. mobilechat is simply piggybacking off of the infrastructure already in place by AIM for such functionality, in fact i would even venture to say mobilechat probably didn't have to do much to hook in other than by default enable the native feature in AIM.

If mobilechat really wanted to do us good, they should write such functionality for the other IM services that don't have such a feature in place natively, such as Yahoo or MSN.

[KDups]

This is pretty much usless since its limited to those services like AIM that currently allow you to receive sms messages from your buddies when they message your aim account, assuming you enabled this feature in AIM. You don't need mobilechat or any other service now to do this. In fact, i leave my AIM on at my home account and I receive sms messages to my iphone anytime a buddy messages me, and via sms i can respond to my buddies' messages. mobilechat is simply piggybacking off of the infrastructure already in place by AIM for such functionality, in fact i would even venture to say mobilechat probably didn't have to do much to hook in other than by default enable the native feature in AIM.

If mobilechat really wanted to do us good, they should write such functionality for the other IM services that don't have such a feature in place natively, such as Yahoo or MSN.

Actually thanks for this reply, I just looked through Yahoo!'s settings and you can enable sms messaging when you sign out of the PC client. This will tide me over until they get a dedicated Yahoo! app...if it ever comes.

Thanks!

[diesel]

Actually thanks for this reply, I just looked through Yahoo!'s settings and you can enable sms messaging when you sign out of the PC client. This will tide me over until they get a dedicated Yahoo! app...if it ever comes.

Thanks!


Yeah, i've had my yahoo one enabled as well for a long time but i don't find it nearly as reliable as the aim version. The yahoo one is kind of hit or miss for me, unless i have a setting screwed up somewhere

[hybrid62]

Well the developers just posted on their website that they submitted their app to apple and should be approve and put on the app store roughly 3-9 days.

[elbirth]

My understanding of how the push will work is that Apple will have it set up so developers can send a message to the device letting people know that there is something going on.

All developers will share this same access. When the phone receives the message then it will notify the user in whatever manner Apple allows. They have not said at this point how fully integrated or alarming this will be.

It will though, allow developers to signal events to people on their phone to get their attention no matter what they are doing on the device. That is the crux of it.

My understanding, though, is these notifications are going to come from apple serverrs outside the phone. IE push functionality will not be something on the phone, except for the receipt of the notification. The actual notification will be triggered by the developer, sent to an apple server and then to the phone. Someone correct me if my understanding on this is wrong.

Actually, during the WWDC keynote, they did lay out how the developers can choose to alert users. They can push a badge alert to show a number like the email, phone, and SMS apps, they can push sounds, and they can push textual alerts similar to SMS. Sounds and textual alerts will be audible/visible regardless of what app you're using. so if your phone is in your pocket, you'll hear an alert just like with getting email, a phone call, or SMS.
The only part that may be questionable is whether or not the textual alert will be visible before you unlock your phone. Scott Forstall is the one that was talking about this, and he said the textual alert would be "similar to" the SMS alert. By saying "similar", he's left Apple open to not having to allow these to be seen until the phone unlocks, or only while the phone is in operation. That's unknown currently, but I feel pretty confident in saying that it will display on your lock screen that you've got an alert and you can unlock the phone to them go see what's going on.

As for how these alerts get there, you're right- Apple will have a push notification server that retains a steady connection with the phone (I wonder if this will somehow be integrated in with the cellular signal or if it will be something additional that might eat battery on its own). When you close your app, the server associated with that app (say AOL's AIM server) will retain the connection for you. when someone IMs you, it will push an alert to Apple's server, which in turn alerts your phone.

[stiphone]

can't wait for this app to be available. Would love to have it right now.

[i-John]

Until push support comes about then that is correct.

For the mean time, i use beejive web app which gives you the option of staying signed in for upto 2hrs when not using it. So if i quit safari or browse to another site then come back to it, as soon as it loads i see all the recieved messages because others still think i'm signed in.
Push technology doesn't keep you signed in. With MobileChat, their servers do that, and when someone replies to your IM, it will push it to your iPhone.

[aosman]

Sounds awesome, but really, I don't think any of these chat clients will be too useful until push is enabled.

When that comes, I'm sold. This going to be a pay for product?

Exactly: push is a must for this kind of app.

[Benjamindaines]

Should be in the AppStore any day now if apple approves it. :)

[AHDuke99]

Should be in the AppStore any day now if apple approves it. :)

Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it. Apparently their servers are down again, so people are speculating as to whether they were rejected or something else.

This group is great at developing, but their business skills have been less than stellar. They can't seem to get their act together.

[TheZimm]

on their website they said 3-9 days 6 days ago, so theyve got three days to put it in the store

[jaseone]

on their website they said 3-9 days 6 days ago, so theyve got three days to put it in the store

They said they submitted it to Apple for approval last Thursday and Apple told them it usually takes 3 - 9 days so if it doesn't make it to the app store during that time frame then it isn't necessarily the developer's fault.

Any comments from anyone except from the developer's themselves at the moment is just pure speculation, yes mobilech.at is not resolving at the moment but who knows why? It could mean any number of things, like it could just mean the developers are waiting for the approval from Apple before flipping the switch, who knows?

Just be patient and as long as the developers cross their T's and dot their I's then the app will make the app store before long I am sure, the appearance of Palringo proves that Apple has no problem with IM apps so it will happen it is just a matter of when!

[AHDuke99]

Their site is now completely down. I just have no faith in these guys at this point. No sign that Apple has approved the app either.

[siurpeeman]

Their site is now completely down. I just have no faith in these guys at this point. No sign that Apple has approved the app either.

their main website is still up here (http://tumblr.twenty08.com/). i'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt until the app is finally released. then we'll see.

[AHDuke99]

Day 9 and nothing. I'm beginning to wonder whether they even submitted it.

[siurpeeman]

Day 9 and nothing. I'm beginning to wonder whether they even submitted it.

why would they lie about it?

[iLeoMarc]

why would they lie about it?

Because their community of followers seem pretty easy to forgive them and bash Apple for the process of submitting applications. Also this is the second "problem" with Apple according to the developers. First it was an issue with their account; then the next week it was a lengthy process from Apple. All the while they downplayed the fact that they were upgrading their servers and they wouldn't have been able to submit the App anyways. Secondly their application site seems down (though not sure how dependent the app is on that particular site).

I personally think they have no reason to lie, but there is room for conspiracy.

[Daiden]

While I'm excited about the app itself, too much of the program relies on infrastructure from a company that could honestly go belly up at any moment. I don't really want to have wasted money on an app that is crippled 6 months down the road because the company had to close up shop.

Besides that, they store your login information on their server (although it is encrypted). From the "problems" with their application to the app store to their seemingly unprofessional manner, I'm not sure I trust the security these guys have in place to protect my private information.

I'm just saying that I personally will probably skip this app, even though it's something I think the iPhone desperately needs. It may be paranoia, but I just don't trust the developers.

[wronski]

You guys are taking these developers way too seriously. Infrastructure? You could run this in a basement (and you don't have to use their server feature). Company? More like a few friends exchanging emails with code. And are you still talking about how they "bashed" Apple? Big. Freakin'. Deal.

Here's something actually worth noting; they've posted a screen shot of the chat window and said that there will be a way to add themes in the future. Good thing because it looks very unattractive.

http://mt12.quickshareit.com/share/convd5f4.png

[AHDuke99]

Well I have been waiting for this app, but I am becoming pretty skeptical and probably won't spend $2.99 on it, considering how much they've screwed around with it. It's taken 9 days now to approve it? And what will they say if it doesn't appear on Monday?

[wronski]

Who cares. It's just an iPhone application. You're not going to buy it out of frustration that it's not out yet? What if it's really good? Who said they had to release on time? There are only two other bad alternatives (that do AIM) and you would just replace them once this came out. Them not releasing this right now or next week does not affect you in any way whatsoever. Damn this is just proof that developers should not give information or status updates about their work before they release an application. All it does is breed ridiculous notions. What are they going to say when it doesn't appear on Monday? Hopefully "sorry it's still not out." These people are being nice and personal about their work as a way to connect with others humanly and you guys are turning it into something needlessly dramatic.

[hybrid62]

The developers just added a video walkthrough for their application showing off its features.
MobileChat Video Walkthrough (http://tumblr.twenty08.com/post/44485689/mobilechat-3-0-application-walkthrough)

[Justinerator]

The developers just added a video walkthrough for their application showing off its features.
MobileChat Video Walkthrough (http://tumblr.twenty08.com/post/44485689/mobilechat-3-0-application-walkthrough)

Nice, I wonder how long it'll be until they actually release it...

[marksman]

You guys are taking these developers way too seriously. Infrastructure? You could run this in a basement (and you don't have to use their server feature).


Doesn't really matter, the point still stands that if they lose interest in 3 months the program stops working, essentially, which is not a real good foundation for an application people might pay for...

By the way I just checked out the Mobile Chat Blog. They have changed the name to "Chat Nuke 'Em Forever".

[The General]

LOL you can TOTALLY see his screenname and password in that video walkthrough.

Wait, no you can't, he typed "not real pass" LOL

[kwjohns]

Couple things that confused me in the video.

1. When he sent a picture in the video, the word "awesome" appears under the link as if he typed that but he never did...

2. Right after that when the last thing said was "awesome", he goes to the buddy list and then to the "chats" tab and it shows the last thing that was said was "bye." But I didn't notice anything popping up in the program when he were at the buddy list that notifies you that the person responded.

[Rojo]

Couple things that confused me in the video.

1. When he sent a picture in the video, the word "awesome" appears under the link as if he typed that but he never did...

2. Right after that when the last thing said was "awesome", he goes to the buddy list and then to the "chats" tab and it shows the last thing that was said was "bye." But I didn't notice anything popping up in the program when he were at the buddy list that notifies you that the person responded.

At the top, he says anything "quirky" is due to his "terrible, terrible video editing" - which explains the words popping up out of nowhere.

[trunksu]

wasn't mobilechat suppose to come out this week? :confused:

[AHDuke99]

I've given up on this app. It was supposed to come out Monday at the latest, and nothing has shown up. Now they are saying Tuesday/Wednesday. If it isn't out tonight, then I am guessing it's a hoax.

[siurpeeman]

I've given up on this app. It was supposed to come out Monday at the latest, and nothing has shown up. Now they are saying Tuesday/Wednesday. If it isn't out tonight, then I am guessing it's a hoax.

because the first two versions was a hoax, right? :rolleyes:

some people really need to get over it and just accept that the app will come out when it comes out.

[Pooshka]

someone on howardforums said that mobilechat was delayed until late october

[AHDuke99]

someone on howardforums said that mobilechat was delayed until late october

where? I don't see it? I don't buy that since nothing on their site says that, but if it was true, I guess my theory that they lied about submitting it was true.

Either way, I probably wont buy it since the group behind it seems incompetent.

[kwha]

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The iPhone desperately needs a decent multi im protocol app (and not palingro). I don't care if it's these guys or someone else who does it!! Please anyone.

[ryanwarsaw]

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The iPhone desperately needs a decent multi im protocol app (and not palingro). I don't care if it's these guys or someone else who does it!! Please anyone.

+1 What is taking so long?

[AHDuke99]

The developers are claiming a mass conspiracy against them it looks like. They are blaming Apple for just about everything and said they submitted it 10 days ago for approval. I really don't know. We need an app like this so bad and it looks like this one might never make it out.

[bbplayer5]

There has to be a conspiracy.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/2737038284_74e60fe2ac_o.png

something like that makes it to the app store, but mobile chat doesnt?

[AHDuke99]

There has to be a conspiracy.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/2737038284_74e60fe2ac_o.png

something like that makes it to the app store, but mobile chat doesnt?

How do we know they even submitted the damn thing? I'm sorry, but I hardly trust this group running the show. Apple approved all these other IM apps, and there's no reason why they wouldn't approve MobileChat. Get real. There isn't some conspiracy. I wouldn't be shocked if they didnt submit it when they said they did. They've had trouble in every step of the process.

[nozebleed]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Ill def be buying this for my 2.0 iphone, but what about my jb 1.1.4 ipod??? I just jailbroke it back because i was disgusted with the aim app, now reading the blog it says its been pulled from all the installer repo's??? That wicked sucks. I backed up all my old apps practically except this one. Can someone be so kind as to pm me somewhere to find the old Mobilechat?? Apollo is so inferior, i dont want to have to "settle". . . . .

[i-John]

How do we know they even submitted the damn thing? I'm sorry, but I hardly trust this group running the show. Apple approved all these other IM apps, and there's no reason why they wouldn't approve MobileChat. Get real. There isn't some conspiracy. I wouldn't be shocked if they didnt submit it when they said they did. They've had trouble in every step of the process.
That just shows that anything will be approved. I question the submission, as I saw other people say they sent apps that were approved and posted with a few days. I doubt it would take near 2 weeks unless something was up.

[TheZimm]

Maybe they'll purt more features in, just trying to be positive

[ViViDboarder]

I think the problem is a complication regarding the GPL and NDA.

If you've ever seen why Adium or Pidgin are not coming to iPhone, it is because the libraries (I think libpurple is an example) are licenced under the GPL. The version it's under requires that if an application uses it the entire sourcecode must be released. The issue comes in when Apple's NDA does not allow them to release the entire source code because it's a product of the SDK and the Developer Program.

Just my guess.

[stevin]

I think the problem is a complication regarding the GPL and NDA.

If you've ever seen why Adium or Pidgin are not coming to iPhone, it is because the libraries (I think libpurple is an example) are licenced under the GPL. The version it's under requires that if an application uses it the entire sourcecode must be released. The issue comes in when Apple's NDA does not allow them to release the entire source code because it's a product of the SDK and the Developer Program.

Just my guess.

sounds like the only reasonable explanation to me...

I've monitored the thread and kept pretty quiet, but like some others here I'm beginning to be frustrated waiting for this sill app to be released on the store. (not to the point that I wouldn't buy a copy when it didn't come out) But its kind of ridiculous.

[ViViDboarder]

sounds like the only reasonable explanation to me...

I've monitored the thread and kept pretty quiet, but like some others here I'm beginning to be frustrated waiting for this sill app to be released on the store. (not to the point that I wouldn't buy a copy when it didn't come out) But its kind of ridiculous.

I think their other problem is that they can't charge for it if it uses GPL (I'm just assuming they are using it.) They were in their old version and they said "They lost the source code so they had to take it down because GPL required the app to have source posted." This sounded a little suspect because if it was intended that they release the source code, they would be allowing others to compile it for free. They charged for the old Native App version too.

So that could be another issue. They want money and GPL has a problem with that.

[jaseone]

I've read on Twenty08's blog that one of the tasks they worked on was completely removing any reliance on libpurple so I really don't think that is the issue.

There is no issue with charging for applications that include GPL'd code as long as the source of the application is available.

This whole issue is such a storm in a tea cup...

[ViViDboarder]

I've read on Twenty08's blog that one of the tasks they worked on was completely removing any reliance on libpurple so I really don't think that is the issue.

There is no issue with charging for applications that include GPL'd code as long as the source of the application is available.

This whole issue is such a storm in a tea cup...

That's interesting. If that's the case then maybe they are still working making it fully independent.

About being able to charge for GPL code, I meant that I didn't think people would pay for something that had sources released that they could compile themselves.

[jaseone]

That's interesting. If that's the case then maybe they are still working making it fully independent.

About being able to charge for GPL code, I meant that I didn't think people would pay for something that had sources released that they could compile themselves.

See their blog at tumble.twenty08.com they posted a screenshot of the submission of the app to apple just to placate people and there are several people beta testing the app using the adhoc distribution method, including several that were vocal in their complaints.

Just because you get the source code to an application doesn't mean you will be able to easily compile it and anyway to get it onto your iPhone you would have to be a registered developer and paid your $99.

Apple's review process is just mysterious and nobody knows how it works and why some apps get through quickly and others take forever.

[ViViDboarder]

See their blog at tumble.twenty08.com they posted a screenshot of the submission of the app to apple just to placate people and there are several people beta testing the app using the adhoc distribution method, including several that were vocal in their complaints.

Just because you get the source code to an application doesn't mean you will be able to easily compile it and anyway to get it onto your iPhone you would have to be a registered developer and paid your $99.

Apple's review process is just mysterious and nobody knows how it works and why some apps get through quickly and others take forever.

I meant the source to the old Jailbroken version. You could then compile it fairly easy with any knowledge of compilers and Darwin.

[queshy]

anyone think the app will be here by the end of the week? I'm still skeptic...

[Shackler]

Is MobileChat really that much better than palringo?

[Wolf103FM]

Is MobileChat really that much better than palringo?

a sock full of D cell batteries upside the head is better than palringo.

[trunksu]

Is MobileChat really that much better than palringo?

i use palringo and i do like palringo. i don't know why some people hate it with a passion. if it works, then it gets a thumbs up in my book.

with that said i do plan to switch to mobilechat when it does come out (if it ever does). just go watch the video of what mobilechat can/will do on their site, you'll probably consider switching too. granted though it will prob cost money vs free.

[thirdeyeopen666]

Why oh why hasn't Agile Messenger made it to the App Store? That was infinitely better than even MobileChat.

[bubbagumpshrimp]

Okay, so from what the video says on their website it looks like we will be charged sms when using their PUSH service. If this be correct, and I assume it is, what makes this app so special? In fact, what makes any of these IM apps special when I cant even receive a message unless im logged into the app?

Someone please correct me.

[siurpeeman]

the sms/email push notification is a stop gap until apple's push notification service kicks in later next month.

[bubbagumpshrimp]

the sms/email push notification is a stop gap until apple's push notification service kicks in later next month.
Great to know, thanks.

[scott99]

I really think the reason for the holdup on this app, is money. That's the bottom line. If Apple thinks it can make a penny on a multi-messenging app, they will squeeze every penny out of this one. Maybe they think they will lose money somehow, if this app is released. It' s all about money.

[iLeoMarc]

I really think the reason for the holdup on this app, is money. That's the bottom line. If Apple thinks it can make a penny on a multi-messenging app, they will squeeze every penny out of this one. Maybe they think they will lose money somehow, if this app is released. It' s all about money.

With your thinking though, Apple can make more money in releasing MC. Why? Because they get the 30% from sales of MC. And if they release say iChat iPhone Edition then they can get 100% revenue. I would assume that since they have access to the entire iPhone and not limited to developing rules that they can easily make a nicer messenger app; thus making more people switch. If it was all about the money Apple would let people buy this, only to upgrade and pay again for something "better" in the not so distant future.

[kwjohns]

Apple hasn't even opened MobileChat yet let alone begun reviewing it to add to the app store! This thing was submitted on the 28th and 11 days later (when Apple claims 3-9 days to be added to the app store) it still hasn't even been looked at. Grrrrr!

http://tumblr.twenty08.com/post/45251190/will-it-ever-launch

[alphaod]

Well at least Apple does review what it puts up rather than approve, let some buyers be screwed, then remove it.

[TheZimm]

I want mobilechat!!!

[bigrobb]

I want mobilechat and also I am waiting on datacase as well

[TheZimm]

whats datacase?

[TechIsCool]

data case

http://www.veiosoft.com/ (http://www.veiosoft.com/)

[TheZimm]

that looks awesome

[ViViDboarder]

Well at least Apple does review what it puts up rather than approve, let some buyers be screwed, then remove it.

Sarcasm?

[TwiceNightly]

I just don't believe that an app takes this long to process, and that Apple haven't even looked at it.

Either Apple have some kind of copyright issues with it, or they don't like the way the developer has been badmouthing them or something like that?

[razorianfly]

I just don't believe that an app takes this long to process, and that Apple haven't even looked at it.

Either Apple have some kind of copyright issues with it, or they don't like the way the developer has been badmouthing them or something like that?

I think your right.

If apple wanted it on the store, it'd be on there by now - I mean seriously, it's the only chat program which has substance at the moment.

Unless, the reason it's being held back (as it obviously is) is because Apple want to be first. iChat for iPhone, Macworld 2009, anyone? :cool:

R-Fly

[ViViDboarder]

I think your right.

If apple wanted it on the store, it'd be on there by now - I mean seriously, it's the only chat program which has substance at the moment.

Unless, the reason it's being held back (as it obviously is) is because Apple want to be first. iChat for iPhone, Macworld 2009, anyone? :cool:

R-Fly

Yea!!! Good point! Apple want's to be first... right after AIM and Palringo... Hmmm... Nevermind.

[kwjohns]

Apple just needs to quit being so secretive about their app store process. If you're going to give a 3-9 timetable for an app being placed on the app store and 15 days later it's still not up, then you need to offer a status update for the developer.

[AHDuke99]

I still don't think there's a conspiracy against the developers or the app on the part of Apple. Their IM client will most likely be built into the OS in the SMS app so it's more of an all-in-one type thing. I doubt they'd release it on the AppStore. Also, if they allowed Palringo to be released, as well as AIM, then there's no reason why they'd have a mass conspiracy against a few independent developers. They are really giving themselves too much credit, IMO. They made a good looking product, but this whole idea that it was so good that Apple doesn't want to release it is kind of much. I still think the developers messed up somewhere along the line. If it has been 15 days and Apple hasn't even looked at it yet sounds fishy, but I doubt it's all Apple's fault. It seems strange to me that after the Tuesday/Wednesday deadline the developers set for the release date, they seemed to have completely given up hope and started a beta program. It seems to me that they don't expect it to come out any time soon. Then they come out and say it hasn't even been reviewed and it's Apple's fault. Why didn't they tell the users that when they were saying it should be on the AppStore Tuesday/Wednesday of last week? I'm hoping Apple gets their IM client out with 2.1 so we can forget having to rely on these guys, cause we still need a reliable one.

[Cubsfan]

Just for comparison, RunKeeper just came out today. They submitted it on the 28th or 29th (don't remember which), so this time period is not unusual. I would also submit that an application like MobileChat probably requires more testing than something like RunKeeper, so it may be delayed a bit longer.

These are the two apps I've been waiting for, so I just thought I'd point out that a non-IM application seems to be taking just as long.

[kwjohns]

Just for comparison, RunKeeper just came out today. They submitted it on the 28th or 29th (don't remember which), so this time period is not unusual. I would also submit that an application like MobileChat probably requires more testing than something like RunKeeper, so it may be delayed a bit longer.

These are the two apps I've been waiting for, so I just thought I'd point out that a non-IM application seems to be taking just as long.

Ya, but MobileChat's app communicates with their server when it's opened and apparently it hasn't even been opened by anyone other than the few beta testers that they have. At least it hasn't since they last confirmed that on Friday.

[razorianfly]

Yea!!! Good point! Apple want's to be first... right after AIM and Palringo... Hmmm... Nevermind.

MobileChat 3 is set to be the first 'real' mobile chat platform for iPhone, supporting all major chat networks.
With features AIM and Palringo don't have, I was simply discounting them both. :)

R-Fly

[ViViDboarder]

MobileChat 3 is set to be the first 'real' mobile chat platform for iPhone, supporting all major chat networks, and with features AIM and Palringo don't have, I was simply discounting them both. :)

R-Fly

And features iChat doesn't have too.

Features other than the obvious: Not on iPhone.

[impact_blue]

Man. I hope it comes out soon, AIM is dead on my iphone. It wont even saw any of my buddylist but does log me on. I can't believe with all the updates AIM has, this issue hasn't been fixed.

Also hoping for push IM's on mobilechat

[stevin]

i've lost all hope. its never coming out. How can apple approve 18000 different versions of sudoku and not mobilechat3

[bigrobb]

datacase is on itunes now now I am just waiting for mobilechat to arrive

[pdnellius]

Agreed, this stuff is ridiculous. I can't believe that they even tell the developer 3-9 days if it's going to be two or more weeks. They really need to keep developers in the loop if they are going to review every single application. Apple should be ashamed. :mad:

[Badandy]

I think your right.



What about my right? :cool:

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[stevin]

Since MobileChat has a "faux push" feature which notifies the user of unread messages via SMS or Email, it's clear that the unread messages are being (at least) temporarily stored on their servers. I emailed the support email four days ago for clarification on their privacy policy with MobileChat and haven't gotten an answer yet. How do I know they're not going to read or store my messages? Or possibly sell my chat history to third parties for advertising research or something?

I'm a bit skeptical of MobileChat. :confused:

I think they're pretty legit. thats my .02

[chicubfan]

Since MobileChat has a "faux push" feature which notifies the user of unread messages via SMS or Email, it's clear that the unread messages are being (at least) temporarily stored on their servers. I emailed the support email four days ago for clarification on their privacy policy with MobileChat and haven't gotten an answer yet. How do I know they're not going to read or store my messages? Or possibly sell my chat history to third parties for advertising research or something?

I'm a bit skeptical of MobileChat. :confused:

I could care less if they know that I told my friend I'm about to get off of work and we should meet up at Will's to get **** faced

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[ViViDboarder]

Just because you have "nothing to hide" doesn't mean it should be seen by anybody who wants to. If you're American, you probably also don't care about the wiretapping procedures, telecom immunity, etc. :confused:

I prefer being able to keep my privacy whenever possible, as anybody with a level head should. ;)

Oh someone thinks their clever and wants to take a crack at someone's country. Well that's cool...

Even here in America, I would definitely prefer not to have someone able to read my messages. In the case of wiretapping, nobody would care enough to pay to have my house tapped and I am willing to give that chance to ensure a higher level of safety.

Nice generalizations. :p

[NoOtherOne]

It just showed up on AppStoreFeed.com (http://www.appstorefeed.com/new)'s New Apps list today. Could mean it's going to show up in the store soon (that's been my experience with other apps on there)!

[Benjamindaines]

It just showed up on AppStoreFeed.com (http://www.appstorefeed.com/new)'s New Apps list today. Could mean it's going to show up in the store soon (that's been my experience with other apps on there)!

Confirmed that it's out, click the Download on iTunes button. I just bought it.

[NoOtherOne]

Confirmed that it's out, click the Download on iTunes button. I just bought it.

Me too! It didn't show up when I did an App search on my phone but the link worked on my computer. Yay (maybe)!

[longshotalpha]

Downloaded and added aim and yahoo accounts. A bunch of my buddies are missing from the "Buddies" list. AIM seems to at least have better organization of your buddies (online, offline, etc.). They have some work cut out for them.

[bigrobb]

i just bought it I will posyt a review on itunes when I use it, this is off subject has anyone tried the app called snatch I believe it lets you access your mac on your ipod touch, there is a free one and also one you have to buy. has anyone used it yet?

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[Zim Bargo]

Is it just me being paranoid, or does anyone else have a problem with giving al their account info to sign-in? I get why they need it, but for my .mac account for example this essentially gives them access to my mails and even the files on my computer via 'back to my mac'

[NoOtherOne]

Mine has yet to even let me connect to MobileChat. When I open the program, there's always some message about server overload and "be patient with us." I think I'm already regretting being an early adopter.

[ViViDboarder]

I'm American myself, so I'm taking a crack at my own country. You think your house isn't wiretapped? Well, if you use the Internet (and you obviously do) or have a phone line (or cell phone), you're more than likely being recorded, tapped, or having some kind of information gathered on you without you even realizing it. ;) Read up on some politics, and you'll see things are a lot worse off in the privacy field than they should be.

You are wrong. Just wrong. I am currently in DC and have a very good friend working in the Pentagon and others at the FBI. My friend at the Pentagon had to submit his cellphone number so they could tap it and he agreed to that. While they may not need his consent, they needed to know which one to tap. Do you actually know how wiretapping is done? Do you have any actual sources where as someone could "Read up on some politics?" I don't think so.

So, as it turns out, I am not as naive as you think.

About MC3 though. I don't know if it has enough features to make it better than any alternative for me to warrant 3 bucks.