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MacRumors
Oct 31, 2001, 10:59 AM
Over the past few months, developers have been working to bring Divx to the Mac. If you're unaware... Divx is a Video Codec which provides a high compression ratio - allowing you to compress a full movie down to around 600megs.

The most promising player for X is Divosx (http://divx.jamby.net)... it provides a Quicktime plug-in which provides Divx translation. It's limited to Divx files with MP3 audio tracks. As well, due to bug in Quicktime's AVI handling, Divx files must be preprocessed with an included app (Avi2Mov).

In my own informal testing, it appears to work with the majority of Divx files I've run across. There is still a small percentage which still cause some problems however. Regardless, a vast improvement over other solutions.



lucs
Oct 31, 2001, 12:13 PM
what about divx players for OS 9.1? I downloaded one from Tucows a couple of days ago, but it is still very limited and does not work with the latest codec. Are there any alternatives?

Megaquad
Oct 31, 2001, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by Macrumors
Over the past few months, developers have been working to bring Divx to the Mac. If you're unaware... Divx is a Video Codec which provides a high compression ratio - allowing you to compress a full movie down to around 600megs.

The most promising player for X is Divosx (http://divx.jamby.net)... it provides a Quicktime plug-in which provides Divx translation. It's limited to Divx files with MP3 audio tracks. As well, due to bug in Quicktime's AVI handling, Divx files must be preprocessed with an included app (Avi2Mov).

In my own informal testing, it appears to work with the majority of Divx files I've run across. There is still a small percentage which still cause some problems however. Regardless, a vast improvement over other solutions.

that avi2mov tool sucks,it is far more better and faster running the divx doctor from the divx player for classic.. and you can predecode audio to aiff so you can listen a wma soundtrack.. freakin quicktime cannot play the mp3 in avi correctly..
it would be great if the apple fix this problem.. and when we could listen mp3 and wma soundtrack + divx3/divx4 codec.. there's another thing i hate in quicktime,when i open the big qt file (600 megs or so) it loads or something about 2 minutes (on my g3-350 mhz imac)..and that file opens in one second in windows media player in virtual pc...hope some day apple will make better quicktime,they created a miracle with iTunes,its so simple and great but quicktime is crap..

arn
Oct 31, 2001, 08:49 PM
Megasquad...

try the latest version... I would have agreed with you 1 week ago. New versions came out in the past 4 days.

arn

Elppa
Oct 31, 2001, 11:49 PM
Don't forget about OpenDivx... Theres actually two 'divx' formats floating around. The one you mentioned being the most popular.

But check out the other less popular one too:

http://www.projectmayo.com/projects/detail.php?projectId=6

They've had a codec for 10.X working since April :)

Juanvlz
Nov 1, 2001, 12:44 AM
"they created a miracle with iTunes"

Or more acurately they bought a miracle with iTunes, but hey if you can't code it buy it!

NO B&W
Nov 1, 2001, 12:45 AM
Is Apple aware of the problem with Quicktime? This should be fixed quickly. We can't fall too far behind here. Make them aware.

GPTurismo
Nov 1, 2001, 10:00 AM
I just run Virtual PC :)

DannyZR2
Nov 3, 2001, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by Juanvlz
"they created a miracle with iTunes"

Or more acurately they bought a miracle with iTunes, but hey if you can't code it buy it!

Who bought what for iTunes???? I hope you're not suggesting that iTunes is a rip off of gay media player.. that piece is worthless!!! unless of course all you know is winblows.. then yes, it is a good .. i can't even finish that ridiculous comment..

anyway. itunes is far.. FAR superior to any other Mp3/Audio player that exists! Interface/design/appearance, and most of all the visuals totally kick any other mp3 player's a$$!!!

Even if it was 'bought', it was totally improved, and is now being copied back!

Megaquad
Nov 3, 2001, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by DannyZR2
Originally posted by Juanvlz
"they created a miracle with iTunes"

Or more acurately they bought a miracle with iTunes, but hey if you can't code it buy it!

Who bought what for iTunes???? I hope you're not suggesting that iTunes is a rip off of gay media player.. that piece is worthless!!! unless of course all you know is winblows.. then yes, it is a good .. i can't even finish that ridiculous comment..

anyway. itunes is far.. FAR superior to any other Mp3/Audio player that exists! Interface/design/appearance, and most of all the visuals totally kick any other mp3 player's a$$!!!

Even if it was 'bought', it was totally improved, and is now being copied back!
iTunes is based on SoundJam code,and visualizer sucks..just install the winamp on some pc and try visualizers..they are far more nicer and better than this crap...

Classic
Nov 3, 2001, 12:37 PM
Actually I've heard that some of the iTunes visualizations are done by Geiss. And Geiss is definately the coolest set of visualizations for Winamp.

One thing cool about Winamp is that you can leave certain visualization on and they are interactive so that you can essentially play the visualizations as an instrument. Like changing colors, visualization etc...

Best of all, it's done with a keyboard so that you don't interfere with the visualization.

I've actually used winamp to do visualizations for live performances. You can take the livve feed right off the sound board, go into your mic input, and run winamp visualizations real time - live.

very cool.

Techpusher2001
Dec 31, 2001, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by Classic
Actually I've heard that some of the iTunes visualizations are done by Geiss. And Geiss is definately the coolest set of visualizations for Winamp.

One thing cool about Winamp is that you can leave certain visualization on and they are interactive so that you can essentially play the visualizations as an instrument. Like changing colors, visualization etc...

Best of all, it's done with a keyboard so that you don't interfere with the visualization.

I've actually used winamp to do visualizations for live performances. You can take the livve feed right off the sound board, go into your mic input, and run winamp visualizations real time - live.

very cool.

Foocha
Dec 31, 2001, 08:10 AM
Hey DannyZR2

As people have already pointed out in this thread, there are plenty of short comings with QuickTime, which means it can sometimes be handy to have a copy of Windows Media Player around.

iTunes is a great app, but as Megaquad points out, it was based on SoundJam, which Apple bought. No shame in that - it's just a statement of fact. OS X itself was based on code bought from NeXT!

Your use of the word "gay" to imply criticisim is really lame, by the way.

DannyZR2
Dec 31, 2001, 08:36 AM
okay.. i thought he was saying that itunes was based on wmp.. which would be ridiculous. ... i do just wonder if apple hasn't done much with the divx thing because steve said that people want their computers and tv's to be separate.. the current iMac doesn't even come with a dvd player anymore.. standard at least.. you can probably bto one with a dvd.. but i just wonder if that's the reason for now divx support.


gay is lame? i think your right. good thing i'm straight.

Doraemon
Dec 31, 2001, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by arn
Megasquad...

try the latest version... I would have agreed with you 1 week ago. New versions came out in the past 4 days.

arn

Are you talking about version 1172? If so, I had it a month ago... (via versiontracker) and still 90% of the movies I download won't work.

Unregistered
Jan 16, 2002, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Classic
Actually I've heard that some of the iTunes visualizations are done by Geiss. And Geiss is definately the coolest set of visualizations for Winamp.

One thing cool about Winamp is that you can leave certain visualization on and they are interactive so that you can essentially play the visualizations as an instrument. Like changing colors, visualization etc...

Best of all, it's done with a keyboard so that you don't interfere with the visualization.

I've actually used winamp to do visualizations for live performances. You can take the livve feed right off the sound board, go into your mic input, and run winamp visualizations real time - live.

very cool.

Unregistered
Jan 16, 2002, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Classic
Actually I've heard that some of the iTunes visualizations are done by Geiss. And Geiss is definately the coolest set of visualizations for Winamp.

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Best of all, it's done with a keyboard so that you don't interfere with the visualization.

I've actually used winamp to do visualizations for live performances. You can take the livve feed right off the sound board, go into your mic input, and run winamp visualizations real time - live.

very cool.

Unregistered
Jan 16, 2002, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Classic
Actually I've heard that some of the iTunes visualizations are done by Geiss. And Geiss is definately the coolest set of visualizations for Winamp.

I like ass sex!! cum **** me with your big stiff cock!!

Best of all, it's done with a keyboard so that you don't interfere with the visualization.

Yeah just grab some lube and slide it in!!!

I've actually used winamp(butt sex) to do visualizations for live performances. You can take the livve feed right off the sound(and stick it up your ass dry) board, go into your mic input, and run winamp visualizations real time - live.

very cool.

mac15
Jan 16, 2002, 08:10 PM
DIVX DOESN'T WORK EVEN ON MY MATES WINTEL HEAP OF ****

MasterX (OSiX)
Jan 17, 2002, 08:51 PM
I'd love to run a DivX player and a VCD player on my mac, but seriously i'd much rather wait for Apple to code it into QT6. BTW if you heard MPEG4 (same as DivX 4 isn't it, or close) is based on Quicktime, that's correct. It was based on QT6 though, and it's not out yet. My hope is apple will add native DivX into QT6 and VCD playback into the DVD player. And since burning VCDs direct from iMovie would be a hop-skip and a jump away they should do that too. No Toast5 isn't capable of that....

mccabem
Jan 31, 2002, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by Classic
Actually I've heard that some of the iTunes visualizations are done by Geiss. And Geiss is definately the coolest set of visualizations for Winamp.

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Yes, it's the geForce module in iTunes. I like this and dremples (not iTunes savvy yet)) the best of any visulizer/screensaver I've seen.
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One thing cool about Winamp is that you can leave certain visualization on and they are interactive so that you can essentially play the visualizations as an instrument. Like changing colors, visualization etc...

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Same for iTunes. Try Q,W,A,S,Z,X
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Best of all, it's done with a keyboard so that you don't interfere with the visualization.

I've actually used winamp to do visualizations for live performances. You can take the livve feed right off the sound board, go into your mic input, and run winamp visualizations real time - live.

very cool.

mccabem
Jan 31, 2002, 04:02 AM
Originally posted by Classic
Actually I've heard that some of the iTunes visualizations are done by Geiss. And Geiss is definately the coolest set of visualizations for Winamp.

++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++
Yes, it's the geForce module in iTunes. I like this and dremples (not iTunes savvy yet)) the best of any visulizer/screensaver I've seen.
++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++

One thing cool about Winamp is that you can leave certain visualization on and they are interactive so that you can essentially play the visualizations as an instrument. Like changing colors, visualization etc...

++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++
Same for iTunes. Try the Q,W,A,S,Z and X keys during playback.

FWIW, read all the online help and other doco so you learn the rest of the features of iTunes. There's quite a bit more to the visualizer than you apparently know.
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Best of all, it's done with a keyboard so that you don't interfere with the visualization.

I've actually used winamp to do visualizations for live performances. You can take the livve feed right off the sound board, go into your mic input, and run winamp visualizations real time - live.

very cool.

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Very cool, but not unique. iTunes does this at least as well. I could do the same with my Atari Jaguar back in 93. Jaguars were fairly popular for driving the video at raves.
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kidtronix
Feb 3, 2002, 11:04 AM
shamefully the mac sucks for viewing of divx and svcd. as for divs, since this thread is about that, you can't watch a divx with ac3 sound nor a divx with external (not branded in) subtitles. bites. unfortunatly we'll probably never see a proper divx (or svcd for that sake) player... boooo!

:rolleyes:

britboy
Feb 3, 2002, 12:06 PM
i've been able to play svcd's pretty succesfully on my Tibook with 10.1. Just needed to save the file to my hard drive, and then play it with vlc. As for divx and 3ivx, 90% of the movies i convert with avi2mov work just fine.

samy85114
Feb 3, 2002, 12:38 PM
I'm wondering if it's possible to encode a movie in divx through VirtualPC with the superdrive???
because, as far as I know, there's no divx encoder for Mac. So if we cannot do it on mac, just do it on windows platform... why not!

germanknee
Feb 3, 2002, 02:23 PM
the gforce visualizer is the best.
hey, is anyone able to sustain 30fps constantly in iTunes visualizer in a any size other than small?
let me know. i'm not sure if apple's hardware can even do it yet.
as far as divx goes, i hate predecoding the files, even then, the audio only works like half the time. i'll try some of the suggestions posted here though.

grrr223
Feb 13, 2002, 01:44 AM
Virtual PC does not support CD/DVD burning. Trust me, I wish it did. I have a 400 disc CD player, and while the hardware can support burning CD-TEXT, there is not a single @#$@#$ Apple program that supports it from the software side, so I can't label my CDS. I'm so pissed off. You'd think that the software part would be the easy part.

MasterX (OSiX)
Feb 13, 2002, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by germanknee
the gforce visualizer is the best.
hey, is anyone able to sustain 30fps constantly in iTunes visualizer in a any size other than small?
let me know. i'm not sure if apple's hardware can even do it yet.
as far as divx goes, i hate predecoding the files, even then, the audio only works like half the time. i'll try some of the suggestions posted here though.

My G4 (500) can't do very much at full screen (640x480) but I got to play on my brother's friends (then-new_ Quicksilver 867 w/GeForce3 and I think he got 84fps. I also used a Dual 800 at the Apple store on a Cinema, but I don't remember the FPS, but it was more than 50 i know that.

germanknee
Feb 14, 2002, 03:43 PM
really? cause i tried it out on i think a dual 800 machine at compusa, but the frame rate was as described in my previous post. i'll try it again sometime. thank you. it was depressing to think that apples hardware couldn't even run it's own visualizer on itunes at a compitent rate. now i'm relieved.

MasterX (OSiX)
Feb 14, 2002, 05:10 PM
I wonder if the iTunes visualizer is hardware accelerated.On my computer it runs within 3 fps on my Radeon PCI and my Rage128 PCI. Anyway as a reply to above, make sure you don't have any pop-up windows if running anything in full-screen. The window will not fit,making an error and cutting your performance down to 1/3. Seriously. I stopped using popup windows after i found that out. Good think I run OSX now. Ha

(Update) OK OK I got off my lazy ass here are the specs:
G4 500Mhz (Sawtooth)
Rage128 Pco AGP2x (stock) 16MB: 17fps
Radeon Mac PCI 32MB DDR: 12fps

Run on iTunes 2.0.3 on MacOSX 10.1.2, no background applications were running. Results are from full-screen Apple iTunes visualizer. Presumably the visualizer always switches to 640x480 but i can't check since it's in full-screen (duh).

katchow
Feb 14, 2002, 06:16 PM
sure itunes was based on soundjam code...but lets not forget the original interface.

with soundjam you end up with a windows scattered around to have multiple playlists...i think the itunes gui is by far the simplest, elegant design.....

yeah visuals are nice, but far from the most important thing in a playa'

katchow