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jfyeh
Jul 29, 2008, 11:05 PM
Hello All,

We are creating an application for golfers that tells you the yardage from your current location to your hole location. Essentially a range finder, but much cheaper!!

Currently there are over 4000 golf courses our database and we are still growing.

Check to see if your course is in our database.

www.golfmapz.com

We are looking to release in the next few weeks.

Keep an eye out on the site.

-John



emrsports25
Jul 30, 2008, 09:33 AM
This sounds like a great app! I play most of my rounds at Crosswinds Golf Club in Savannah, GA, and I was very excited to see it on your list. I do have a few questions though.

How accurate will the yardages be? (in comparison to an expensive RangeFinder, etc.)

Will a network connection be needed to use the app? (just EDGE, 3G, obviously Location Services will need to be on)

Will it be possible to:
A) Download a Free trial version to see how well it works at my home course?
OR
B) Purchase the app, test it out for awhile at my home course, and if I am not satisfied (not that I don't expect to be from what I have seen) receive a refund?

Thanks.

jfyeh
Jul 30, 2008, 11:45 AM
Hello,

We will not have a trial version. We want user's to have full access to all the courses and all the holes.

The accuracy will be +/- 10 yards, partially due to the accuracy of the GPS on the phone and the fact that the hole location changes constantly on courses.

I don't think Apple allows refunds.

If you are unsure I would wait for reviews to come out and see what people are saying.

However I'm positive this is nothing you have seen before and will be thoroughly impressed.

-John

EvryDayImShufln
Jul 30, 2008, 12:52 PM
Very cool app idea. I'm not a golfer, but I'm glad to see such innovative use of the GPS.

fishkorp
Jul 30, 2008, 12:53 PM
Looks great, the courses I play are there as well. Question, does it have scorecard capability as well? Would be a hassle to have to use 1 app for range finder and another for keeping score.

Also, can it tell me distance from tee, not just distance to green? So I can get an idea of how long my drive was, etc? I think that would be a nice feature.

Jeremy1026
Jul 30, 2008, 01:30 PM
Looks great, the courses I play are there as well. Question, does it have scorecard capability as well? Would be a hassle to have to use 1 app for range finder and another for keeping score.

Also, can it tell me distance from tee, not just distance to green? So I can get an idea of how long my drive was, etc? I think that would be a nice feature.

Subtract total hole yardage from distance to green yardage. That is your distance from tee. Simple math.

Stocktrader
Jul 30, 2008, 02:07 PM
What pricing are you looking at?

I'd be curious to see the battery life and if the iPhone can handle a 6-hour round.

Best of luck,

fishkorp
Jul 30, 2008, 02:11 PM
Subtract total hole yardage from distance to green yardage. That is your distance from tee. Simple math.

That's too much thought for lazy people :p

rvancil
Jul 30, 2008, 02:17 PM
I'm in for it...Lots of CA courses...especially where I play in LA/OC counties! Sweet...How much is this going to cost?

FSUSem1noles
Jul 30, 2008, 02:22 PM
I love the look so far!

Now I just wish I could get some new clubs!

jfyeh
Jul 30, 2008, 02:39 PM
We are shooting for a 9.99 price point

Our first release will not have score keeping abilities but the very next release will. We wanted to put scorekeeping in this version but had to fix some bugs in this release.

Drive distance, and iron distance will eventually be put in as well.

We're looking to launch in the next week or so.

Request your courses now!!

rvancil
Jul 30, 2008, 02:49 PM
Sounds like exactly what I've been waiting for! Score keeping will be a must! Will the updates be free once the application is initially paid for?

ajnvt
Jul 30, 2008, 03:11 PM
Perfect! This is the application I've been waiting for.. The golf apps in the store so far have been disappointing. I just submitted 2 of my home courses, hopefully they make it in to the initial release so that I can buy this thing. Well done.

hotsauce
Jul 30, 2008, 05:58 PM
+\- 10 yards? That's a huge margin of error! You say that it depends on pin position, but we already know that pin position is important when determining distance. What is the margin of error in yards for the middle of the green? If it's +\- 10 to everywhere, then it will be useless to me. Also, will it give distance to front, middle, back?

btcutter
Jul 30, 2008, 07:02 PM
I hope you application will allow one to download the score card /map of the course before hand or even better...enter player info before hand and save on the phone for later use. This way it'll solely concentrate on using the GPS application during the round and minimize the data transfer during the round to help preserve battery life.

fishkorp
Jul 30, 2008, 08:29 PM
+\- 10 yards? That's a huge margin of error! You say that it depends on pin position, but we already know that pin position is important when determining distance. What is the margin of error in yards for the middle of the green? If it's +\- 10 to everywhere, then it will be useless to me. Also, will it give distance to front, middle, back?

Pretty sure that's how every golf GPS system works. Yardage is determined to the center of the green, but courses can change pin position daily. If it's a big green, you can easily have a 10 yard difference. It's not the app's fault if the course changes pin position. Unless the course owners upload updated pin positioning every morning there's no way of keeping the app 100% accurate.

gauchogolfer
Jul 30, 2008, 08:33 PM
I'd like to know what the margin of error is in the actual location. Based on that yardages could be given to front/center/back of the green or other physical features (bunkers, etc.).

BG-Mac
Jul 30, 2008, 08:44 PM
I'd like to know what the margin of error is in the actual location. Based on that yardages could be given to front/center/back of the green or other physical features (bunkers, etc.).

I'd also like to know this. Will there be a front/center/back of green measurement? How accurate will these be? What about bunkers, water, etc.? I'm sure i'll be picking this app up either way, but i'd love for it to be on par with the high end handhelds out there.

hotsauce
Jul 30, 2008, 11:07 PM
I'd like to know what the margin of error is in the actual location. Based on that yardages could be given to front/center/back of the green or other physical features (bunkers, etc.).

That's what I meant. +/- 10 yards could mean big trouble for tucked pin locations. I'm currently using a laser range finder and gives me +/- 1 yard margin for up to a 2000 yard distance. I believe skycaddie advertises there accuracy at 1-3 yards from up to 1000 yards. When you talk about accuracy in regards to golf gps units, you don't take into account the pin position. That's the golfers responsibility to figure out. If this app is anything close to the skycaddie, I'll pick this up in a heartbeat.

BG-Mac
Aug 3, 2008, 12:17 PM
Any new info on this app?? I'm looking forward to trying it out.

jfyeh
Aug 4, 2008, 01:17 AM
All the data is very time consuming to collect especially for all the courses.

We ultimately want to have all that data available but not at the moment.

Price point will likely be 9.99

Release may be as early as this Friday.

Stocktrader
Aug 4, 2008, 08:08 AM
All the data is very time consuming to collect especially for all the courses.

We ultimately want to have all that data available but not at the moment.

Price point will likely be 9.99

Release may be as early as this Friday.

Best of luck.
At 9.99, I'll wait for the reviews. At 4.99, I buy on the spot.

hotsauce
Aug 4, 2008, 04:03 PM
Best of luck.
At 9.99, I'll wait for the reviews. At 4.99, I buy on the spot.

If it's anything close to a skycaddie, I'd pay 29.99. If it is a subscription based Id'd pay 9.99 plus 5 per month. I have no problem paying for quality.

Rdrnatn24
Aug 4, 2008, 11:32 PM
Definitely interested in this one... I couldn't believe the small nine holer by my house was on the list

AHDuke99
Aug 4, 2008, 11:38 PM
Looks like all the courses on Kiawah are on the list :D

bxb03a
Aug 5, 2008, 10:27 AM
Please release this App ASAP!!!

Djs621
Aug 5, 2008, 02:20 PM
Can u include some kind of function that allows you track your rounds so that you can develop a handicap?

jfyeh
Aug 6, 2008, 08:56 PM
Currently we are waiting approval from Apple so that we can release the app to the public. Best case scenario will be any day now, worst case will be sometime next week.

Right now we are just doing GPS/range finder. In the next release we will have scorecard functionality and hopefully handicap information.

Everyone keep your eyes peeled on the App store. :)

BG-Mac
Aug 6, 2008, 10:23 PM
Currently we are waiting approval from Apple so that we can release the app to the public. Best case scenario will be any day now, worst case will be sometime next week.

Right now we are just doing GPS/range finder. In the next release we will have scorecard functionality and hopefully handicap information.

Everyone keep your eyes peeled on the App store. :)

YESSS!!!! CANNOT WAIT!!!!! Just in time to use with my new AP2s.. :D

Any more info on accuracy to things like bunkers, water, front/back of green, etc.?

bxb03a
Aug 7, 2008, 01:37 AM
I've got the AP2s as well, you are going to love them

evilgEEk
Aug 7, 2008, 01:55 AM
I don't suppose this will work with the original iPhone?

The stinkin' cell tower triangulation probably wouldn't be accurate enough.

Stupid non-gps iPhone. :(

jfyeh
Aug 7, 2008, 07:40 AM
The old Iphone will not work. It does not have GPS capabilities. We need that accuracy to be useful.

The new ones are only $200. If you sell your old one you may come out even.

BG-Mac
Aug 7, 2008, 08:15 AM
I've got the AP2s as well, you are going to love them

Yeah I ordered them like 8 weeks ago and they've been on backorder. I'm supposed to receive them today. I've heard great things so I'm sure i'll love them. Now I just need Titleist to release the 909 lineup.. :D:D

Santa Rosa
Aug 7, 2008, 08:46 AM
Not seeing Royal Dornoch in there lol. Guessing that you are just doing US courses at the moment? The course is one of the top 20 in the world though. And I live just 5 mins up the road from it :)

profetto
Aug 7, 2008, 09:52 AM
Nice to see Canada is available!

Son of a...

smt1192
Aug 7, 2008, 10:15 AM
This app looks good! One question though; Is the application going to run on a 3G/Edge/Wifi connection or are you going to tap where you are? If it uses a data service, battery life might be a problem.

erch63
Aug 7, 2008, 10:15 AM
I am in when it comes out looks very cool. One question though do you really add the courses I submitted within 48 hours or only after you receive a certain amount of requests?

Make that two questions, will the app allow remote downloads for the course or will it have to be done via sync?

jfyeh
Aug 7, 2008, 01:05 PM
We will download the course info based on what the iphone is using. If you are close to a wireless network and logged into it then it will use that but if not it'll use the 3G service to get the states and courses.

We will try and add all courses that are requested. It may not be as fast as 48 hours but we will add courses based on any number of requests.

All the courses are pulled from a web server. Once a course a course has been added to the database it should be accessible via the web server. None of the courses are stored locally.

detz
Aug 8, 2008, 02:45 PM
Wouldn't it make sense to store them locally? I know a lot of the courses I go to are in the middle of the boonies and I doubt I will get a decent connection. The ability to download and save courses might be a deal breaker.

How are you doing the course information...if you don't mind me asking? Out of curiously for accuracy.

ajnvt
Aug 8, 2008, 07:52 PM
I requested that a course be added last week, and it looks like it's already up. Great job, guys. The other course that I requested doesn't have a hole layout online, which looks like hurts its chances for inclusion. Hope the program is almost through approval, I can't wait.

BG-Mac
Aug 8, 2008, 08:57 PM
I tried asking this question in this thread several times, and even PMed the developer but got no response. What's the deal with ACCURACY?? He stated earlier that it was +/- 10 yards, but what about to points other than hole location? Like front/back of green, bunkers, water, etc. I read on another site that the best case scenario for a golf gps app would be +/- 10 yards to any pint. So if this is the case it may be useless to me.

Santa Rosa
Aug 9, 2008, 06:10 AM
I tried asking this question in this thread several times, and even PMed the developer but got no response. What's the deal with ACCURACY?? He stated earlier that it was +/- 10 yards, but what about to points other than hole location? Like front/back of green, bunkers, water, etc. I read on another site that the best case scenario for a golf gps app would be +/- 10 yards to any pint. So if this is the case it may be useless to me.

Hot shot golfer ehh lol. Just playing, but I see where you are coming from with that.

jfyeh
Aug 9, 2008, 02:26 PM
Right now the only course that is saved locally is your "favorite". If you think you will be out in the middle of no where go ahead and set that course as your favorite and it should download it locally.I think we will allow downloading of multiple courses in the next release.


There are a lot of factors when using GPS with golf. There's the GPS portion which only gives you an accuracy of up to a few feet at best, and 10 yards in a in a worst case scenario. That we cannot change. The hole locations change from time to time at certain hole on certain courses. Unless we are notified or we go back and change we won't know where the hole is. As a result are are calculating to the middle of the green.

With all that being said we tested it this past Monday and it was dead on. We were standing on top of a 150 yard marker and it tool displayed 150 yards. Best case scenario can be right on the spot.

d21mike
Aug 9, 2008, 03:13 PM
There are a lot of factors when using GPS with golf. There's the GPS portion which only gives you an accuracy of up to a few feet at best, and 10 yards in a in a worst case scenario. That we cannot change. The hole locations change from time to time at certain hole on certain courses. Unless we are notified or we go back and change we won't know where the hole is. As a result are are calculating to the middle of the green.

Your answers seem to be comflicting each other. You said earlier that the accuracy is +/- 10 yards. Now you are saying that it can be a few feet at best and 10 yards at worst. What I have heard is that the GPS Unit in the iPhone is not as accurate as other GPS Units. Like say the one in the SkyCaddie.

There are a number of Golf Applications in the store (most have said GPS in next release) and I plan to try 2-3 of them (I just like toys like this). I currently have a SkyCaddie and plan to compare the accuracy of the GPS Units.

Have you gotten any information from Apple on the accuracy of the GPS Unit in the Phone?

Also, Pin Placement should not have anything to do with this part of the conversation. If you have an accurate GPS Unit then your application should provide front/middle/back of each green like all other Golf GPS Applications.

d21mike
Aug 9, 2008, 03:21 PM
Subtract total hole yardage from distance to green yardage. That is your distance from tee. Simple math.

I don't think so. I think this would only be true if you hit the ball "directly" in line from the tee and the pin (not normally done by most and in some cases not a good idea). GPS is "as the crow flies" not taking into account dog legs. Other Golf GPS Products (like the SkyCaddie) allow you to Mark your current ball location and then Mark again at the point where you hit the drive (or iron shot) and it then calculates the distance. Of course this is only as accurate as the GPS Unit.

scotty96LSC
Aug 9, 2008, 03:24 PM
Only of a few of the San Antonio Tracks are listed. I may weight on this one.
But sure sounds a lot better than Skycaddie or some other GPS. Maybe you can get Natalie Gulbis to prop this?

hotsauce
Aug 9, 2008, 03:28 PM
Right now the only course that is saved locally is your "favorite". If you think you will be out in the middle of no where go ahead and set that course as your favorite and it should download it locally.I think we will allow downloading of multiple courses in the next release.


There are a lot of factors when using GPS with golf. There's the GPS portion which only gives you an accuracy of up to a few feet at best, and 10 yards in a in a worst case scenario. That we cannot change. The hole locations change from time to time at certain hole on certain courses. Unless we are notified or we go back and change we won't know where the hole is. As a result are are calculating to the middle of the green.

With all that being said we tested it this past Monday and it was dead on. We were standing on top of a 150 yard marker and it tool displayed 150 yards. Best case scenario can be right on the spot.

Just as Mike above me pointed out, the pin position is irrelevant in discussing the accuracy. If you know how skycaddie works, you will understand this. Leave pin position out of it and just measure to front middle and back of the green. It is up to us to determine where pin position is. From reading some of your posts, I get the feeling that you are not very familiar with how a typical golf rangefinders work. Regardless, I'm very excited and hope that you hit the mark with this program.

golfmapz
Aug 9, 2008, 10:56 PM
The measurement will be done from the center of the green to your current location (as the crow flies).

Golf GPS applications do have some limitations ... for example, say I hit the ball 30 yards to the left of the green. At that point, the "front" and "back" are really of no value to me as a golfer (unless an application has the whole green mapped out completely, each nook and cranny of curvature, which our app is not going to do).

Anyhow ... I can say that unless you are anal about 2 yards of difference, you are going to be happy with the accuracy of this application, and you will find it useful. Plus, it beats shelling out an extra few hundred bucks for a skycaddie :)

FYI: Application, by my best estimates, should be in the app store as early as monday. Never know for sure with Apple these days, but from other application creators, this is about the right timing for how long it takes to get reviewed and launched.

Rob
http://www.golfmapz.com

d21mike
Aug 9, 2008, 11:39 PM
The measurement will be done from the center of the green to your current location (as the crow flies).

Golf GPS applications do have some limitations ... for example, say I hit the ball 30 yards to the left of the green. At that point, the "front" and "back" are really of no value to me as a golfer (unless an application has the whole green mapped out completely, each nook and cranny of curvature, which our app is not going to do).

Anyhow ... I can say that unless you are anal about 2 yards of difference, you are going to be happy with the accuracy of this application, and you will find it useful. Plus, it beats shelling out an extra few hundred bucks for a skycaddie :)

FYI: Application, by my best estimates, should be in the app store as early as monday. Never know for sure with Apple these days, but from other application creators, this is about the right timing for how long it takes to get reviewed and launched.

Rob
http://www.golfmapz.com

I know it may sound like I am pushing SkyCaddie but I am not. Just using them as a comparison. I would prefer to use my iPhone to collect detail stats and also be a range finder. So I really hope one of you comes up with a really nice product. The reason for my input is to hope that you do.

d21mike
Aug 9, 2008, 11:51 PM
The measurement will be done from the center of the green to your current location (as the crow flies).

Golf GPS applications do have some limitations ... for example, say I hit the ball 30 yards to the left of the green. At that point, the "front" and "back" are really of no value to me as a golfer (unless an application has the whole green mapped out completely, each nook and cranny of curvature, which our app is not going to do).

Anyhow ... I can say that unless you are anal about 2 yards of difference, you are going to be happy with the accuracy of this application, and you will find it useful. Plus, it beats shelling out an extra few hundred bucks for a skycaddie :)

FYI: Application, by my best estimates, should be in the app store as early as monday. Never know for sure with Apple these days, but from other application creators, this is about the right timing for how long it takes to get reviewed and launched.

Rob
http://www.golfmapz.com

I know it may sound like I am pushing SkyCaddie but I am not. Just using them as a comparison. I would prefer to use my iPhone to collect detail stats and also have it be a range finder. So I really hope one of you comes up with a really nice product. The reason for my input is in hope that you do.

First, Sky Caddie does mark the entire green so in your example, if you are 30 yards left the green the green, the green picture will rotate to match where you are hitting from. You can move the center marker to the actuall Pin position to make it more accurate. They also mark bunkers and other hazards.

Second, not good to call your potential customers anal. In any case we are not talking about 2 yards. Greens can be quite large and you want to get as close to the PIN as you can. Right?

Again, I really do wish you success and I plan to be one of your first customers as soon as it hit the App Store.

Please post here when it is up.

btcutter
Aug 10, 2008, 12:06 AM
How do you distinguish yourself from TEESHOT (4/5 stars for $19.99)??? Tell me why I should buy your product vs TEESHOT (they are getting the GPS yardage in place).

Sell me? I want to buy a golf product but not both. Why should I buy yours???

I think many are wondering the exact same thing.

golfmapz
Aug 10, 2008, 12:12 AM
Good question!!

Well, I think one thing that really sets us apart is a huge database of courses that are already gps enabled. We are adding more and more as fast as we possibly can too! So, out of the box, chances are that our application will work on your favorite course.

At this point, I think its hard to say which you should buy. Clearly, all the golf application makers want to create the same great features. But I really do think that the value in our application is the data we have been collecting to bring our users a usable system.

Other than that, I mean, it really is the same piece of hardware, so I guess you will just have to see which one you like in terms of usability and design, plus working features.

(Also ours is half the price of tee shot for the introductory version, so get in early!!) :D

d21mike
Aug 10, 2008, 12:30 AM
Good question!!

Well, I think one thing that really sets us apart is a huge database of courses that are already gps enabled. We are adding more and more as fast as we possibly can too! So, out of the box, chances are that our application will work on your favorite course.

At this point, I think its hard to say which you should buy. Clearly, all the golf application makers want to create the same great features. But I really do think that the value in our application is the data we have been collecting to bring our users a usable system.

Other than that, I mean, it really is the same piece of hardware, so I guess you will just have to see which one you like in terms of usability and design, plus working features.

(Also ours is half the price of tee shot for the introductory version, so get in early!!) :D

Good Answer. Content for this application is very important. It takes a lot of time to mark your own courses. In my opinion the next most important is accurancy. Since both are using the same hardware, not sure if there is much any of you can do about it. At the same time, you felt that marking the center of the green should be good enough. I hope your application allows for more detail markings.

DipDog3
Aug 10, 2008, 12:33 AM
TeeShot is the BEST!

http://www.teeshotlive.com/files/images/round-details.png

BG-Mac
Aug 10, 2008, 01:57 AM
http://www.teeshotlive.com/files/images/round-details.png

Nice round! Does TeeShot have a handicap calculator? If not, are there plans to create one in the near future? Thanks!

lesliegolf
Aug 10, 2008, 11:44 AM
It looks like I would need two Apps, yours to track GPS and tee shot to track my score. Maybe I missed it, but, it sounds like your app does no score tracking.

I love the idea, but, it seems like a lot of clicking from one app to another. Not to mention what running gps on and for 4 - 6 hours (Southern California golf, sigh) would do to the battery.

Maybe I missed this one also, but, will you display green depth and width? So, even if you only track to the middle, I can at least know the green is 50 yards deep and 40 yards wide?

I see a future where I pack my fat extra Kensington battery and use my iPhone for golf. Just not sure I want to personally do this with two different applications.

crosby13
Aug 10, 2008, 07:38 PM
Check out Breakmeter. It's pretty cool. It helps you read the break on the green using the accelerometer in your iPhone.

golfmapz
Aug 11, 2008, 12:15 AM
Scorecard will be included in our second major version. It is already being developed and we hope to add the update after a few weeks.

By the way, we received word from Apple a few hours ago saying that vCaddy by GolfMapz is "Ready for Sale", which means that it should show up on the app store in 12-48 hours (from what I have heard).



I also think break meter is cool. I had thought of the idea of creating a feature like that when in "On the Green" mode, but I am not sure how many people would actually sit there with their iPhone laying on the green when they are putting. :) So, it is a "nice extra" that may eventually get added, but not a priority.

lesliegolf
Aug 11, 2008, 12:18 AM
Thanks for the reply! Still wondering if you give the overall green dimensions to help give me an idea of front, middle, back, etc.

hotsauce
Aug 11, 2008, 12:34 AM
Scorecard will be included in our second major version. It is already being developed and we hope to add the update after a few weeks.

By the way, we received word from Apple a few hours ago saying that vCaddy by GolfMapz is "Ready for Sale", which means that it should show up on the app store in 12-48 hours (from what I have heard).



I also think break meter is cool. I had thought of the idea of creating a feature like that when in "On the Green" mode, but I am not sure how many people would actually sit there with their iPhone laying on the green when they are putting. :) So, it is a "nice extra" that may eventually get added, but not a priority.

Break meter would violate the rules of golf. It may be a good practice aid, but adding it to your program would be useless.

hotsauce
Aug 11, 2008, 12:35 AM
http://www.teeshotlive.com/files/images/round-details.png

What a showoff! Nice round. I don't know what's more impressive, your score or playing 18 holes at 4:16. Teeing off at 11 am no less.

dccorona
Aug 11, 2008, 04:29 AM
its out!
vCaddy. i found it
obviously i havnt tried it yet, as its the middle of the night, but i have a suggestion already

for golf clubs that have more than 1 course, such as the wyndgate (by my house) are listed once for each course they have. but how can i tell which course i am selecting? you need a way to distinguish them

another example is oakland university, where i am a member. there are 2 courses, but only 1 in the app. however, i dont know which one it is based on the title. there should be a way to tell

BG-Mac
Aug 11, 2008, 10:36 AM
If someone could post a review of this app with regards to accuracy and margin of error it would be much appreciated.

btcutter
Aug 11, 2008, 12:10 PM
http://www.teeshotlive.com/files/images/round-details.png

Nice round of golf at Pebble no less!!!

Tell me why you say TeeShot is the best?

right now I use Smartscorecard on my iPhone to keep score. It's live tracking of my score on phone and on the internet. http://www.apple.com/webapps/sports/smartscorecard.html

Obviously lacking in GPS but other features works great.

lesliegolf
Aug 11, 2008, 12:43 PM
Right now, it looks to be just a big circle with the yardage to the middle of the green.

Its affordable at 9.99, but, I see only using this when my local course is not marked already. Especially because the accuracy can be + / - 10 yards.

Im still waiting for an app with markings to hazards, etc. I would pay some decent money for that.

BG-Mac
Aug 11, 2008, 12:47 PM
Nice round of golf at Pebble no less!!!

Tell me why you say TeeShot is the best?

right now I use Smartscorecard on my iPhone to keep score. It's live tracking of my score on phone and on the internet. http://www.apple.com/webapps/sports/smartscorecard.html

Obviously lacking in GPS but other features works great.

I downloaded TeeShot yesterday and used it for the first time shortly after. Very user friendly and provides you with a ton of stats, keeps your handicap, etc. The developers are also very helpful and are planning on adding tons of features through updates, including GPS. I'd highly recommend TeeShot.

detz
Aug 11, 2008, 01:03 PM
Looks pretty bare bones...not sure I would pay $10 for that, I think I will wait until you add additional features.

ajnvt
Aug 11, 2008, 01:18 PM
I just paid the $10 hoping to try out a course by me that I suggested and was subsequently added. But when I opened up the program, it's not listed, even though it's on the web site. Looking for Colonial Country Club in Harrisburg, PA.

diesel
Aug 11, 2008, 05:10 PM
The program looks pretty crappy to be honest. its no wonder the developers only hyped the program without posting any screenshots prior to its release. Though i suppose if the purpose of the program is simply to show you yardage to the green, then it do that subject to gps accuracy and accuracy of the course data.

right now teeshot is the way to go, and if you look at the teeshot site, you will see that version 1.5 is right around the corner with gps support.

COmacconvert
Aug 12, 2008, 11:43 AM
So I downloaded this program yesterday morning and played a course here in Colorado. I was really impressed with the accuracy. I played with a guy that had Skycaddie. 9 times out of ten we got the exact same reading.

Pros: It's a simple app that does exactly as advertised. It shows you your distance to the green on the hole you choose. It has almost every course in Colorado that I play, have played, or will play.

Cons: It does not instantly give you a reading. Example: I was 166 yards from the hole (marked on the golf course) and the app jumped from 189 to 175 to 156 and finally rested at 166. The readings are accurate it just takes a second to get there. I don't know if this is something with the App or if this is just how the GPS in the iPhone works. Also, on the course I played the holes were out of order. Example: Hole 10 was a par 3 but vCaddy had it listed as a par 4. This subsequently messed up the order of the rest of the holes as well. However, even though the holes were off I still got accurate readings to the hole.

For the price, this App is fantastic. My main gripe would be the time it takes to calibrate your actual position. Other than that, I think the application is awesome. I will continue to use this every time I golf.

Great job:D:D:D

pyrodex
Aug 12, 2008, 11:53 AM
Does this record score also or just simply a range finder?

sn00pie
Aug 12, 2008, 11:55 AM
Would this work on the iPod Touch too?

COmacconvert
Aug 12, 2008, 11:58 AM
Does this record score also or just simply a range finder?


Just a range finder. I believe score keeping will be added in a later iteration.

golfmapz
Aug 13, 2008, 12:17 AM
Glad to see that you like it. I too am really enjoying the range finder while I play every monday. Its also fun to show it off to the buds.


Yes, we are working on the scorecard feature currently, and also have put in place a system to let our users submit course maps very fast if they know the course well. This way, data is more accurate (we check the submissions manually), and the courses get added faster for you guys to use (as opposed to us going through each of the 400 course requests we currently have).

We are still going through the requests manually, in order of when they were received (some courses though dont have layout information available online, so we cannot tell which hole is which, which is why the new tool is so valuable).

Hope you enjoy it. The accuracy is much better than the +/- 10 yards mentioned in many forums. This is because you are not using a-gps for both coordinates, but rather just for 1 coordinate(your current location), so it cuts at least in half the accuracy issues people had thought there would be.

I will make a suggestion though... Set your iphone lock timeout to 5 minutes. This way, the iphone's gps system does not go to sleep, and have to recalibrate on every hole. Not really the applications fault, but rather the way the iphone is programmed to use its gps capabilities. I can see this improving on their end in the future.

Rob
Golf Mapz, LLC

dhy8386
Aug 13, 2008, 07:22 AM
Guys,

Greenfinder was just released for the iPhone in the Appstore. It is also a GPS rangefinder (previously available for the BB). It measures to front, center, and back of greens and to hazards as well. Real time downloading of as many courses as you want. Doesnt seem to have nearly as many at vCaddy but looks like the interface is better (for now) - however its 34 bucks. Be curious if anyone is looking at it and how it compares to vCaddy.

detz
Aug 13, 2008, 08:31 AM
Guys,

Greenfinder was just released for the iPhone in the Appstore. It is also a GPS rangefinder (previously available for the BB). It measures to front, center, and back of greens and to hazards as well. Real time downloading of as many courses as you want. Doesnt seem to have nearly as many at vCaddy but looks like the interface is better (for now) - however its 34 bucks. Be curious if anyone is looking at it and how it compares to vCaddy.

Interface is better? Not too sure about that...

Look what I stumbled upon.... :D
http://www.fifthfloormedia.com/golfr/courseDownload.mov

diesel
Aug 16, 2008, 10:36 PM
I just bought myself a set of new callaway irons, and am dying to break them in at the course and sure would like to try one of the new gps golf programs too. but i might have to hold out for the fifthmedia app or wait to see the gps improvements to come to the awesome teeshot app that I already bought.

dhy8386
Aug 17, 2008, 10:10 AM
For anyone who wants to read, I just posted a detailed comparison between Greenfinder vs vCaddy vs SkyCaddy here:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6056655&postcount=20