Next-Generation iPod nano to be Taller?

[Apple Ink]

From iLounge:

It may be hard to believe, but from what we’ve now heard from multiple sources, it’s true: the fourth-generation iPod nano will look like… a Microsoft Zune. Well, sort of.

Contradicting speculation that Apple was planning to transform the new nano into a miniature iPod touch, complete with a smaller touchscreen, we’ve been told that this year’s nano upgrade will go in a different direction. Described by one source as looking like “a Zune Flash… or whatever it’s called,” the new nano has a vertically (tall) oriented display with a Click Wheel underneath, preserving the button-based control scheme that users have found easiest to use without looking down at the screen. The new nano’s screen will gain the same 1.5:1 widescreen aspect ratio as the iPhone and iPod touch, versus the 1.33:1 ratio of the prior iPod nano and iPod classic, and you’ll rotate the device to watch videos on it.

To fit the screen and Click Wheel neatly together, the new nano will adopt a form factor that shifts away from the almost square dimensions of the 2007 third-generation nano back towards the general shape of the first- and second-generation models. As one of our sources noted, it’s a surprise that the new nano will be bigger than the prior model, but the goal appears to be preservation of all of the prior model’s usability while adding a bigger screen, and there aren’t many other ways to accomplish that goal.

Our sources also indicated that rumors that the device will have a multi-colored body are most likely inaccurate. A single-colored anodized aluminum frame akin to prior iPod nanos will apparently be used, with each nano offered in one color. Obviously, we’ll see what the real story is when Apple introduces the new nano later this year, but our sources are extremely confident in the accuracy of these details.

Link: http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/backstage/comments/ipod-nano-4g-a-zune-alike/

[Chundles]

Hmm...

These guys Backstage reports are usually accurate.

I was horrified when I saw the squat iPod nano but as soon as I saw one in the flesh I bought one.

Gonna need to see these "in the metal." Before I pass judgement.

[jpmittins]

Okay, I swear I've seen a picture of that supposed fourth generation iPod nano in one of the old Apple mockup threads. And I also remember people bitching because it looked like a Zune. This doesn't seem to reliable to me...
Plus, it just looks like a second generation iPod nano with a longer vertical screen.

[SactoGuy18]

Going to this larger size could also mean we may see 16 and 32 GB storage capacity nanos, something that a lot of users want.

[sushi]

I prefer the form factor of the first two Nano models.

The third one, is a bit squarish for me and harder to hold.

If the 4G one is like the 2G one (best case of all IMHO) but a bit taller to facilitate a larger screen and more memory, like the one in the picture above, that would be nice.

[The Toon Master]

If the screen is a rectangle, why not move the click wheel 90 degrees since a majority of people would hold it horizontally

[MacRumors]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/07/30/032002-nano_400.png
Zune on left, artist rendition of Nano on right. From iLounge

iLounge reports (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/backstage/comments/ipod-nano-4g-a-zune-alike/) that the next generation of iPod nano may sport a taller screen, matching the iPhone and iPod touch's aspect ratio of 1.5:1 and up from the 1.33:1 aspect ratio found in the current iPod nano.
To fit the screen and Click Wheel neatly together, the new nano will adopt a form factor that shifts away from the almost square dimensions of the 2007 third-generation nano back towards the general shape of the first- and second-generation models. As one of our sources noted, it’s a surprise that the new nano will be bigger than the prior model, but the goal appears to be preservation of all of the prior model’s usability while adding a bigger screen, and there aren’t many other ways to accomplish that goal.
A vertically-oriented screen suggests that videos would be viewed with the iPod nano turned sideways. iLounge draws comparisons between the new design to Microsoft's Zune MP3 player.

iLounge's sources also indicate that a recent rumor of multicolored iPod nanos (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/22/new-ipod-nanos-to-be-multicolored/) is "most likely inaccurate" and that each version of the new iPod nano, presumably differing in storage capacity, will be offered in only a single color.


Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/30/next-generation-ipod-nano-to-be-taller/)

[carve]

good. I dont like the fattie.

[Mephisto5]

Mine is so uncomfortable to hold, the scroll wheel is way too small in comparison to the screen. Hopefully it looks more like some of the earlier mockups of the ipod video.

[iMikeT]

If an iPod nano were built like this, it will remind me of a Zune.

[applefan69]

I figure itd be easy to write the sftware to make the track wheel sensors change which way is straight up by a simple script. Using an accelerometor. Which actually makes lots of sense.

What im wondering is what about the play/pause/menu buttons??

Its possible apple makes those buttons LCD lit up...and when you rotat the device, the device senses that an re-arranges the positionin of th buttons

I think that would be pretty neat...

[sam10685]

Put a huge click wheel on the back. That'll solve everything.

[.Chris]

If an iPod nano were built like this, it will remind me of a Zune.

I was thinking the same exact thing. Expect no ugly brown red or pink. It will have the apple design and yes it may be red and pink, but it will be a better hue.

I figure itd be easy to write the sftware to make the track wheel sensors change which way is straight up by a simple script. Using an accelerometor. Which actually makes lots of sense.

What im wondering is what about the play/pause/menu buttons??

Its possible apple makes those buttons LCD lit up...and when you rotat the device, the device senses that an re-arranges the positionin of th buttons

I think that would be pretty neat...

I agree. like the ipod touch/iphone has. You touch the screen and the contols are brought up..

Guess people really hate the 3G ipod nano. I dont have a problem with it. its not that fat.... :rolleyes:

[.Chris]

Put a huge click wheel on the back. That'll solve everything.

I think the click wheel is on its way out bro..

[Peace]

The wheel is programmable. you can hold the wheel in one hand and scroll with your finger up or down on the screen.In otherwords the screen is multi-touch and the wheel moves with the rotation. Makes it easier to navigate vertical items in the vertical position and flick your finger in the horizontal position.

Just watch.;)

Here's the patent :

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=8&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=apple.AS.&s2=%22scroll+wheel%22&OS=AN/apple+AND+%22scroll+wheel%22&RS=AN/apple+AND+%22scroll+wheel%22

[Clayne]

I like the brown/green color scheme on the Zune :X

sorry. :P

I'm interested to see how these'll look though! And how they'll sell.

[sam10685]

I think the click wheel is on its way out bro..

That would almost be worse than the inevitable glass track pad on the macbook.

[Maxamillious]

If Apple is going to incorporate iPhone and iPod Touch features into lower-end iPod models they mayas well jump-the-gun now, discontinue the lower-end models and toss in an iPod Touch Clip, an iPod Touch Nano and an iPod Touch Classic for good measure. This only seems like where the natural progression will lead over time...

[netdog]

I love my Phattie. Sorry to see them get bigger. Video is pretty sweet on the current nano.

[lamadude]

Urgh... I just want the 2nd gen of nano's back. A small, simple ipod with a lot of flash based storage.

[.Chris]

If Apple is going to incorporate iPhone and iPod Touch features into lower-end iPod models they mayas well jump-the-gun now, discontinue the lower-end models and toss in an iPod Touch Clip, an iPod Touch Nano and an iPod Touch Classic for good measure. This only seems like where the natural progression will lead over time...

It wont be called ipod touch classic, as it will replace the classic with an entire new product. Perhaps the name change last year was a sign? I can see the clip and may be the nano names...

the rumor last week for multicolored nanos and with this one seems they are making it look more like a zune..

I dont mind, as long as they put in the zunes features,. but better and multi touch.

[philamac]

i think if theres a wheel, then theres no multi-touch screen. The screen would defeat the purpose of having a wheel no, cause you could easily program a wheel control to pop up on the screen if it were multitouch. So i'm gonna have to debunk any wheel + touch screen theories.

remember there was a patent a while ago for a device with a screen on the front and buttons on the back! I'd say the chance for that happening is rare, since its kinda awkward, but who knows!?

Either way though, sounds good for all the people in the market for a Nano! I hated the fat nano! 1st & 2nd Gen FTW!

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Urgh... I just want the 2nd gen of nano's back. A small, simple ipod with a lot of flash based storage.

agreed. The absolute best iPod ever introduced.

[.Chris]

I love my Phattie. Sorry to see them get bigger. Video is pretty sweet on the current nano.

might be better on this one. if its bulid right..

"URGH, OMG apple, like keeps changing its crap, and like, um... I want them to to, you know,ah huh go back to 2 year old technolgoy because, its like the best type there is"


whats worng with the current line up? the new nanos are simple. Come in the same sizes as the 2ed gen just added video. You dont have to have video on them you know ;)

[.Chris]

agreed. The absolute best iPod ever introduced.

for 2005/2006.

I find the new nanos lot more thinner and better quality. Sure its small, but people wanted video so they added it. if you dont, well, dont put video on.. simple as that

[airlights]

Oh lame. I like the current nano!

[.Chris]

Oh lame. I like the current nano!

now theres some one with some class! :cool:

[Apple Ink]

Oh lame. I like the current nano!

Count me in as well. The long nano's feel like.. well.. very flimsy and er... breakable

I love the current nano. It feels so warm and nice to hold!

Oh well.. guess some sacrifices have to be made to include the 'bigger' screen!

[ArthurS]

What's with all the hate towards the Nano 3G? I think it's the nicest Nano so far, elegant, very nice screen, very nicely built. I used to have a Nano 2G, but I like my friends' new Nanos much better.

[Philberttheduck]

Put a huge click wheel on the back. That'll solve everything.

a normal size click wheel on the back with a fullscreen on the front would be sick.

and if they're putting WS on a nano, they should implement the same thing on the classic. i'd say the same idea: nice 3.5" screen 250GB(!!) on the front with a scroll wheel on the back. now THAT would be something i'd like to buy (i can put it in my pockets and know that i'm clicking a button to skip, which is impossible with the iphone/touch)

dare i add, slide out click wheel?

[Chundles]

I wonder if there's someone out there capable enough to do up a mockup of the supposed design using the 3G iPod nano as a base rather than the 2G?

That would at least give us an idea as to the correct gradients and curves around the edges as well as using one of the more subdued colours from the 3G - the iLounge mockup looks a little weird because of the sharp corners and the old colour.

[iParis]

I wonder if this will also be done on the Classic.
Because if this is happening with the new releases this fall, the Classic will still be here.
They're not going to get rid on the Classic for a while.

There have been rumors for a long time about an iPod with a touch screen that has a click wheel that appears and disappears as you touch it.

[.Chris]

why put the controls on the back? I dont get it

[iParis]

why put the controls on the back? I dont get it

Don't worry, it will NEVER happen.
That is another think I have seen a fake of.
There would be no way to control it.

[Clayne]

Did anyone see the other update Macrumors posted on Page 1, right after this one, about the same thing?

Looks like it was taken down.

Anyways, the picture is interesting. I like how they added a picture of Steve Ballmer to the mock up.

I like the current ones the most, to be honest. But I won't be getting one anyways, so it doesn't matter too much to me.

[.Chris]

Don't worry, it will NEVER happen.
That is another think I have seen a fake of.
There would be no way to control it.

I dont get why the guys on page 1 are so excited over it. no way to control it at all whatsoever,

[.Chris]

Found this while on google (its the classic though)

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/849/ipod6gconceptby9.png

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/3885/ipodtd7.jpg

Now the nano concepts

http://i.fosfor.se/i06/061026_2.gif

http://www.macsimumnews.com/images/uploads/6GiPod.jpg

I REALLY like the UI on this one...

http://www.ilounge.com/gallery/ipod_micro_contest/iPod_nano_4g_concept_medium.JPG

[.Chris]

more to fill up more of the feel

http://www.ilounge.com/gallery/ipod_micro_contest/ipodmicro~4_medium.jpg

Find a lot more here

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/gallery/photoart/

[.Chris]

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/3885/ipodtd7.jpg

Now the nano concepts

notice the Sirius icon near the top right. This concept has satellite radio...

[Loge]

Count me in as well. The long nano's feel like.. well.. very flimsy and er... breakable


The 1G nanos certainly did feel flimsy, but I don't think you can say the same about the 2G with its all round aluminium enclosure like the iPod mini. I'd like to see them return to that design, they look much better than those shiny backs.

[slapppy]

The Zune is such a joke and a product built out of arrogance that no one will even relate the new nano ( if this is true ) to it. iPod has the ClickWheel, not the squircle Mickey Mouse controller. :p

[iParis]

Found this while on google (its the classic though)

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/849/ipod6gconceptby9.png

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/3885/ipodtd7.jpg

Now the nano concepts

http://i.fosfor.se/i06/061026_2.gif

http://www.macsimumnews.com/images/uploads/6GiPod.jpg

I REALLY like the UI on this one...

http://www.ilounge.com/gallery/ipod_micro_contest/iPod_nano_4g_concept_medium.JPG


That's brilliant!
I really like the last pic of the Touch Nano thing.
I wish they would do that for the Classic too.
The first future iPod Classic looks fake, especially since it's now playing screen is from the 5G iPod.
The second Nano pics that were uber small, look especially fake, considering the screen looks a lot like one from Sony and other companies.

[.Chris]

That's brilliant!
I really like the last pic of the Touch Nano thing.
I wish they would do that for the Classic too.
The first future iPod Classic looks fake, especially since it's now playing screen is from the 5G iPod.
The second Nano pics that were uber small, look especially fake, considering the screen looks a lot like one from Sony and other companies.

I'm gonna do a mock up of the first pic with the new screen. The small nano screens are actully apple's front row UI back in 2005.

[iParis]

The 1G nanos certainly did feel flimsy, but I don't think you can say the same about the 2G with its all round aluminium enclosure like the iPod mini. I'd like to see them return to that design, they look much better than those shiny backs.

Ahh, the first Nanos bring back memories.
I can take those apart and put those back to better in a matter of minutes.
But 1GB can hold just about nothing.
Those screens also got scratched wayyy to easily.

[.Chris]

The first future iPod Classic looks fake, especially since it's now playing screen is from the 5G iPod.
.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6091/ipod6gconceptby9ga2.png

[iParis]

That's brilliant!
I really like the last pic of the Touch Nano thing.
I wish they would do that for the Classic too.
The first future iPod Classic looks fake, especially since it's now playing screen is from the 5G iPod.
The second Nano pics that were uber small, look especially fake, considering the screen looks a lot like one from Sony and other companies.

Found this while on google (its the classic though)

I REALLY like the UI on this one...

http://www.ilounge.com/gallery/ipod_micro_contest/iPod_nano_4g_concept_medium.JPG

Oh ya, I am still just amazed at this idea, even though it is just a screen shot of Front Row '05.
But in that pic I did notice that there was a little signal indicator to the right of "iPod" at the top.
Does this indicate some weird wireless feature for the future in nanos?
I did see anything in the main menu involving wireless features.

[t0mat0]

I highly doubt that apple would go back to anything like an older design. Why would the nano be construnwe by a ciick wheel for example, when the iTouch iPhone are both touch, and the new macbooks/mbps also now starting to get rumors if multitouh pads.

I'd umagin thy might make it more rectangular possibly, but why? If it had the same screen resolution as a Touch, 430x320 why change that ratio? I'd imagine if anything it's head towards a 640x480 And it OLED. Wouldn't it go more the way of the macBook Air and have tapered edges etc? A nano is "nano" sized after all - what point is there to make a self named tiny iPod line bigger??

The click wheel is on it's way out as the major design feature of the iPod.

[iParis]

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6091/ipod6gconceptby9ga2.png

Ok, now you're just making stuff up. XDDD

[Matthew Yohe]

Tall nano + accelerometer + backlit click wheel "Menu" text and icons (a la 3rd gen iPod)

When you rotate to one side, the text and icons also change orientation.

[.Chris]

Oh ya, I am still just amazed at this idea, even though it is just a screen shot of Front Row '05.
But in that pic I did notice that there was a little signal indicator to the right of "iPod" at the top.
Does this indicate some weird wireless feature for the future in nanos?
I did see anything in the main menu involving wireless features.

The small pic has the 2005 the one you quoted is the newer one
as for the little icon
Sirius/XM satellite radio (http://www.sirius.com/)

[Padraig]

The Zune is such a joke and a product built out of arrogance that no one will even relate the new nano ( if this is true ) to it. iPod has the ClickWheel, not the squircle Mickey Mouse controller. :p

Zunes are excellent devices. I still rate the HD model over the classic. However, of all the iPods I own my favourite is my blue 2nd gen nano. It's a superb device, by far the most sturdy and comfortable to hold. Hope they bin the chrome back and return to the one piece design of the 2nd gen and mini.

[.Chris]

Ok, now you're just making stuff up. XDDD

I googled this. The original image had the 5th gen UI. I had to find an ipod with the new UI the same size as the pic. Looks pretty nice. almost like an imac...

[iParis]

The small pic has the 2005 the one you quoted is the newer one
as for the little icon
Sirius/XM satellite radio (http://www.sirius.com/)

I meant on the Touch Nano.
That signal icon looks like the icon from the touch.
And the signal icon from that and the "future" classic are different.

[.Chris]

Ok, now you're just making stuff up. XDDD

I meant on the Touch Nano.
That signal icon looks like the icon from the touch.
And the signal icon from that and the "future" classic are different.

well its does say wi-fi on the pic so i'm guessing its a wi-fi icon...

and the icon looks the same to me on the classic...

[t0mat0]

why couldn't the new nano be the iPod Touch 2,1 that's on the front page story. The iPod Touch is an iPod - with features from the iPhone. Why would apple name a tablet as A Touch? Guess if the naming is true it might keep any othe new line under wraps.

[iParis]

I googled this. The original image had the 5th gen UI. I had to find an ipod with the new UI the same size as the pic. Looks pretty nice. almost like an imac...

Ya, but they design on the current classic is already great.
They don't really need to change the design for the classic if they're not going to add any new features.

[queshy]

Why would apple go backwards here? I thought they are moving away from this design with the new nano.

[ReanimationLP]

For the classic, I bet they'll just merge the the touch and the classic together, giving users a choice of their touch with either flash memory in a thin form like the current one, or a thicker form factor with an internal hard disk drive.

[iParis]

well its does say wi-fi on the pic so i'm guessing its a wi-fi icon...

and the icon looks the same to me on the classic...

Hmm... I wonder what Wifi features a nano would have if any.
I doubt it would have full internet access.
That is more predictable to happen on the Classic because of it's better and bigger screen.

[.Chris]

Ya, but they design on the current classic is already great.
They don't really need to change the design for the classic if they're not going to add any new features.

not much a redesign. just more imac like...

[solaris7]

I opened up the macrumors front page to be greeted by two ugly looking devices, it took me a while to realize that one of them was an ipod nano!!!

[H$R]

I think the click wheel is on its way out bro..

I hope not..there are situations when a touch screen is just not working right. Sometimes you just can't look on the screen and change the tracks or don't have two hands free. When I am biking I love to handle my Nano just with one hand with almost not looking on the screen. And when I am running, then I also have to concentrate on the road and I don't really want to use all my two hands and my eyes to change a song.

A friend with an iPhone told me, "you can switch tracks with the button on your headset". Well I am using Sennheiser headphones and not the Apple ones and sometimes I don't just want to "change to the next track".
(a workaround would be to make a playlist prior running, but mostly I am deciding on my way, so it's not the best resolution.)

For me it's sometimes handy to actually have a click wheel.

And coverflow..it' tacky and nice, but how useful is it really? Maybe I am old fashioned, but when I am looking for the tracks/artists, I go for an alphabetical list and not flicking through any covers. And If I want some random music, then I just let the shuffle mode do its job. I am not seeing me in any situation using coverflow.

Why would apple go backwards here? I thought they are moving away from this design with the new nano.

That's also my question..I didn't see them abandon the "long" desing in favor for the "fatty" one until it happened. The Nano G2 fits perfectly into some smaller pockets where the Nano G3 couldn't even think off.
I am open for a practical design change, though it would remind us off a Zune (which I've never seen one in the wild here)

[.Chris]

I hope not..there are situations when a touch screen is just not working right. Sometimes you just can't look on the screen and change the tracks or don't have two hands free. When I am biking I love to handle my Nano just with one hand with almost not looking on the screen. And when I am running, then I also have to concentrate on the road and I don't really want to use all my two hands and my eyes to change a song.

A friend with an iPhone told me, "you can switch tracks with the button on your headset". Well I am using Sennheiser headphones and not the Apple ones and sometimes I don't just want to "change to the next track".
(a workaround would be to make a playlist prior running, but mostly I am deciding on my way, so it's not the best resolution.)

They could add physical buttons on the side. For ply/pause, forward, back etc. or do a virtual clickwhell touch the screen in a certin spot and up comes the click whell.

[bobbleheadbob]

This looks hideous. I prefer the current generation nano. This can't be real. :(

[.Chris]

This looks hideous. I prefer the current generation nano. This can't be real. :(

we said the same thing about the current nano, now we love it...... well, some do, some like the old and have no video. you dont have to use video if you dont want to kids

[iParis]

This looks hideous. I prefer the current generation nano. This can't be real. :(

Trust me, what you see on the home page, is NOT going to turn into a real iPod.
That's a fake pic and I have seen at many times before.

[rrijkers]

Rectangular is one thing, but who said the clickwheel is staying? why not touch only like the previous pictures?

http://c.imagehost.org/0437/032002-nano_400.jpg

[.Chris]

Trust me, what you see on the home page, is NOT going to turn into a real iPod.
That's a fake pic and I have seen at many times before.

some people need creativity....

[H$R]

They could add physical buttons on the side. For ply/pause, forward, back etc. or do a virtual clickwhell touch the screen in a certin spot and up comes the click whell.

Yes true, but how mayn physical buttons to you have on the iPhone? As less as possible. I think it's a desing qustion, though you never know.
I was thnking about the virtual clickwheel thing long before the iPhone/iPod Touch came out. But the longer I thought of it, the more issues I found. Most important is that there's no actual tactical feedback. So you always have to look down (compare it to a notebook keyboard, where you can type without looking on the screen and the iPhone virual keyboard where you have to constantly watch the screen).

"in a certain spot" yeah that might could work, maybe with the time you would learn where it is to handle it without looking onto it.


If they want to abandon the clickwheel, then I would appreciate your idea with the sidebuttons for the most important functions.


The 1G nanos certainly did feel flimsy, but I don't think you can say the same about the 2G with its all round aluminium enclosure like the iPod mini. I'd like to see them return to that design, they look much better than those shiny backs.

I second that. The 2G is maybe the strongest gadget I've seen (used materials). It's pretty thin and really strong. First I wanted to buy somekind of protective case, but then I found out how strong the outerside actually was. I use my nano daily, having it in pockets with money and keys, using it while doing sports, and it also can handle sweat/a bit rain (anyone heard of the stories that those Nanos survived a ride in the washing machine? I wouldn't doubt it).

My Nano G2 as only a few scratches (and they came from really heavy metals). Normally the Nano would scratch the other things. Nothing with flimsy and breakable.


Rectangular is one thing, but who said the clickwheel is staying? why not touch only like the previous pictures?

http://c.imagehost.org/0437/032002-nano_400.jpg

Yeah, make it all touch, leave away the clickwheel..(not what I want)..but than err why not just turn it around 90 degrees? :D

[halhiker]

Unless it goes with a full touch screen, what's the point in changing it? People will think, "we've seen this before but now it has video. BFD". If Apple were going to go with the longer version they would've done it last year instead of releasing the fatty.

I'd like to see a "Touch" family. A Mac Touch, an iPod Touch and a Nano Touch.

I'll take one of each, please.

[.Chris]

Rectangular is one thing, but who said the clickwheel is staying? why not touch only like the previous pictures?

http://c.imagehost.org/0437/032002-nano_400.jpg

http://www.ilounge.com/gallery/ipod_micro_contest/iPod_nano_4g_concept_medium.JPG

Things i live about the design:


Keeps the same ipod touch/iphone look and form factor.
Glowing "home" button really adds some class
Front row UI is nice. As long as it has clover flow and a way to flip through your video libary
wi-fi. meh. may be

[phalewhale]

http://www.ilounge.com/gallery/ipod_micro_contest/iPod_nano_4g_concept_medium.JPG

Things i live about the design:


Keeps the same ipod touch/iphone look and form factor.
Glowing "home" button really adds some class
Front row UI is nice. As long as it has clover flow and a way to flip through your video libary
wi-fi. meh. may be

Nice looking - will apple make almost all of their iPod products touch within the next year or so? Is this the product transition that was hinted at?

[DoFoT9]

YUK YUK YUK YUK!!! i like the little pudgey fella, looks cute rather than a lanky thing

[DoFoT9]

http://www.ilounge.com/gallery/ipod_micro_contest/iPod_nano_4g_concept_medium.JPG

Things i live about the design:


Keeps the same ipod touch/iphone look and form factor.
Glowing "home" button really adds some class
Front row UI is nice. As long as it has clover flow and a way to flip through your video libary
wi-fi. meh. may be

that would be AMAZING!!! not going to happen, but its gorguz. wifi is a must

[bobbleheadbob]

Trust me, what you see on the home page, is NOT going to turn into a real iPod.
That's a fake pic and I have seen at many times before.

Agree. "Zune-like" are the two words I don't want to hear when describing a new iPod! ;)

[archi17]

I like the 3rd Gen Nano shape best. I think they are nicer than the tall skinny ones. Oh well we will just have to wait and see what apple brings us

[iSpoody 1243]

omg that looks uggglllyyyy!!!!
hell no, a tall ass screen like that would feel horrible
but then again i thought the g3 ipod nano looked ugly when it came out

[Prof.]

Ummmmmm.... no.

Why in hell would Apple copy off Microsoft? Unless they made it touch screen AND click wheel. :cool:
http://www.ilounge.com/gallery/ipod_micro_contest/iPod_nano_4g_concept_medium.JPG

Things i live about the design:


Keeps the same ipod touch/iphone look and form factor.
Glowing "home" button really adds some class
Front row UI is nice. As long as it has clover flow and a way to flip through your video libary
wi-fi. meh. may be
I wouldn't be surprised if it eventually came to that in a few years.

[Darth.Titan]

I wonder if there's someone out there capable enough to do up a mockup of the supposed design using the 3G iPod nano as a base rather than the 2G?

That would at least give us an idea as to the correct gradients and curves around the edges as well as using one of the more subdued colours from the 3G - the iLounge mockup looks a little weird because of the sharp corners and the old colour.

I thought the same thing. I'm no Photoshop expert, but I'm pretty sure I at least got the new screen size close at least. Be kind as I threw this together in 5 mins.

[officerwiggins]

Just realized that Apple is heavily selling refurbished Nanos in their German online store:
http://tinyurl.com/6yz99f

Last time i've seen something like this was before they introduced the latest iMac, so this rumor might be true.

[boddiz]

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/boddiz_69/Untitled-1.png

My mockup... using a nano3G as a base image...enjoy.
I know the click wheel is too close to the screen, but im busy and didnt have much time. this has the right screen ratio also.

[tiiim]

Im guessing at some point the Nano will need to envolve but will be diffcult as a lot of people like the click wheel and is Apple's main ipod. But also Apple is not afraid of jumping in with new technology.

However i think the classic will retain the click wheel for those who like the traditional design.. i think Apple will keep it until flash memory approaches the classic's hard drive capacity... then at some point the dreaded decision will have to be made, when to remove the click wheel? Or maybe apple will keep the classic until most people are happy with the touch screens? The iPod touch was a big hit, now Apple needs to drop the price due to iPhone. It be very interesting to see where it will all go.:)

[iParis]

Apple is never going to go as low to copy microsoft.

I still can't get over how damn beautiful that Nano would be.
But I would rather see that released in the Classic, if not, then both.

And all we have to do is wait about a little over a month (beginning of September) to find out what they're going to give us this year.
One thing I love about Apple releasing their new stuff in early fall almost every year is because my birthday's at the end of September!
Perfect timing.

[MaxiKana]

I wonder if there's someone out there capable enough to do up a mockup of the supposed design using the 3G iPod nano as a base rather than the 2G?

That would at least give us an idea as to the correct gradients and curves around the edges as well as using one of the more subdued colours from the 3G - the iLounge mockup looks a little weird because of the sharp corners and the old colour.

I did one, used the touch UI though.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/77620/nano_mockup.jpg

[Kardashian]

Surely the controls would be this way?

Even though I hate the idea.

[carve]

I'm game for the new nano, as long as it doesn't have those sharp edges like on the 2G.

[iParis]

Surely the controls would be this way?

Even though I hate the idea.

Now that is a realistic iPod and what it may look like!
Except for I think it may only be turned to the side for Cover Flow and videos.
I think everything else would be regular.
And if it's going to be like how you made it, they would need to rotate the click wheel.
Nice Job!
The other guy did a good job, but he should of put in screen shots of the 3gen nano/classic instead of screen shots from the touch.

[Spanna]

Didn't apple register a trade mark for an illuminated click wheel. The controls on the click wheel will probably rotate as you turn the ipod to watch videos.

[macintel4me]

There's no way this Zune-like appearance would actually make it out of Apple. A multi-touch nano is much more likely. I mean that thing is just down right ugly with the controls sideways when watching a video. It just feels so unbalanced.

[carve]

I did one, used the touch UI though.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/77620/nano_mockup.jpg

That would be the "lefty' version :p

[mosx]

I say keep the current form factor. Its near perfect. Just fix the tilted screens :rolleyes:

Give is aligned screens, better battery life, same form factor, and 32GB. I'll even pay $299 for a 32GB iPod nano in the current form with better battery life.

I'll use it for as long as 3rd party batteries allow me to.

[boddiz]

I did one, used the touch UI though.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/77620/nano_mockup.jpg

You cant have it as wide as the old one, the rumor says that its thinner.... that one is like classic size...sorry mate, but I give it a thumbs down. It is nice other than that though.

[Dagless]

I can't stand the "fat" model but no, don't think I'm too keen on a taller design either. My fave Nano is still the 1st gen beauty :o

Frankly I'd like to see the Nano go the way of the Touch but strictly for music and video only (since it's much smaller). Maybe. I'm still ultra happy with my 80gb 5.5G enough that I don't want a Touch or a Classic.

[MaxiKana]

You cant have it as wide as the old one, the rumor says that its thinner.... that one is like classic size...sorry mate, but I give it a thumbs down. It is nice other than that though.

Heh, wow criticism for doing a mockup =)

Anyway, I flipped it over so that it' not a lefty model. But it doesn't say, atleast in the OP, that it would be thinner so i didn't make it. And I doubt they'd keep the original GUI of the current nano.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/77620/nano_mockup_correct.jpg

[benfilan]

What's with all the hate towards the Nano 3G? I think it's the nicest Nano so far, elegant, very nice screen, very nicely built. I used to have a Nano 2G, but I like my friends' new Nanos much better.

+1

I love the fattie. I would I could make an excuse to buy one...but i really don't need it. :rolleyes:

[t0mat0]

what need is there for a click wheel if they went touch?

A touch screen could do so much more - it could emulate a touch wheel if really wanted for starters; surely it's a better UI?

One strong flick of the finger equates a couple of circles of the touch wheel. Interestingly though I'd imagine that having a smooth non haptic screen would be a disadvantage for use without looking for exapmle whilst using sports. Perhaps an update of the speakers to have the clicked to change track/ pause/ volume perhaps.

[Apple Ink]

The tough gontrols are cool.... except they aren't happening anytime soon! It took Apple 5 years to settle with the click wheel and now after 7 years, the iPod interface (with the wheel {rotate/button/scroll/click}) has grown to become a home flavor and everyone in the World characterize iPod due to the Wheel with the blue shifting bar!
No, the iPod and the nano's wheels are here to stay as long as the terms classic/HD and nano survive! What we can expect from Apple is a completely new form of 'wheel', not scroll, not click but something very different but a wheel still!

As far as the current mockups above and below, they are horrible (ones with a wheel) and will be horrible! But Apple has a way to do things and as long as SJ is around, I dont really bother about these horrid designs... :D

[Apple Ink]

+1

I love the fattie. I would I could make an excuse to buy one...but i really don't need it. :rolleyes:

Make that +2:D

[Fabio_gsilva]

I think the click wheel is on its way out bro..

YEp... get rid of the click well, and the aesthetics of this device will be a lot better...

To tall for me now, as mocked up...

[MattZani]

Can people not see that the whole line will be touch screen, and look similar?

iPod Classic will become iPod Touch, with current Hdd
iPod Touch will merge with iPod Nano, and there will be a current iPod Touch Size, and a smaller more Nano size.

Im thinking iPod Video will come back, as the touch screen Hdd based Classic.
iPod touch will stay the same, maybe be just the iPod now?
iPod Nano will be a smaller iPod Touch.

[Fabio_gsilva]

Surely the controls would be this way?

Even though I hate the idea.

Great mock up. THis is something to like...

But it will not be so nano, don't you think?

[magid]

Can people not see that the whole line will be touch screen, and look similar?

iPod Classic will become iPod Touch, with current Hdd
iPod Touch will merge with iPod Nano, and there will be a current iPod Touch Size, and a smaller more Nano size.

Im thinking iPod Video will come back, as the touch screen Hdd based Classic.
iPod touch will stay the same, maybe be just the iPod now?
iPod Nano will be a smaller iPod Touch.

Definitely seems plausible. I like your thinking with then new lineup. Then as soon as flash prices drop every further apple will drop the traditional hdd in favor of it.

[muldul]

I'm so going to buy one if it comes out.

[137489]

Heh, wow criticism for doing a mockup =)

Anyway, I flipped it over so that it' not a lefty model. But it doesn't say, atleast in the OP, that it would be thinner so i didn't make it. And I doubt they'd keep the original GUI of the current nano.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/77620/nano_mockup_correct.jpg

oh darn. I liked the lefty. I am a lefty.. Touch Nano on where I can drag my controls? actually I have a classic from like 4 years ago (15 gb model). Works good enough as a music player. if it ever breaks - then maybe I will upgrade. but I paid $300 for it back then and also got the fm transmitter doc for it as well, for when I am in the car.

[Bubbasteve]

I say -- lose the click wheel, go back to the aluminum backs and make it touch screen

On second thought -- keep the click wheel for easy shuffling of songs.

or maybe make a click wheel "app" to simulate the click wheel

[iOrlando]

So okay..

1) Ipod classic - for the huge music playlists
2) ipod touch - genius
3) ipod shuffle - great for running and working out
4) ipod nano - hmm...not sure where it fits

[padmasana]

Clickwheel: If you use the Nano for sports and training, you will want a physical clickwheel that you can adjust without having to look at it. Touch interfaces are cool, but they don't work for me when I'm going 40 mph downhill on a bicycle.
Nano shape: I loved the first two years of Nanos. The current Spongebob SquareGig edition never excited me. Also, the 3G Nano clickwheel was almost too small.
I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the idea that the Nano will return to more of its original shape. Remember, Apple killed the iPod mini with the Nano. Guess what showed up a year later — the mini's skin on the 2G Nano. I think Apple is wise to reuse ideas and shapes that worked well.

[bytethese]

Ugh, that looks pretty UGLY. :P

[dstrauss]

Take that ugly green mock-up, cut off the click wheel and add an iPhone home button, and use the iPhone UI for media. Smaller, lighter, and a head turner. All those little wheelie folks will just have to grow up, or use the base model postage stamp size unit without screen.

[mgk4786]

I don't think Apple will ever go back to having plastic on the top and bottom. It made the 2nd gen nano look and feel cheap.

At first I wasn't crazy about the proportions of the current nano. Then, I went to the Apple Store and played with one. It feels great in your hand and the screen looks amazing. I'm glad they went to the all-metal case.

If they made the screen any larger, it would be competing with the iPod Classic. There's a reason why they call it the 'iPod Nano.' Those who are in the market for a larger screen should check out the iPod Touch or Classic.

[Blakely028]

If it looks like this, I might just buy it for my son.. :p

[NC MacGuy]

Didn't apple register a trade mark for an illuminated click wheel. The controls on the click wheel will probably rotate as you turn the ipod to watch videos.

I like this idea and think it pretty practical. Having a g sensor, maybe some good games on the horizon too.

[blairbeckwith]

Start your photocopiers, Cupertino! Oops.:rolleyes:

[bytethese]

Clickwheel: If you use the Nano for sports and training, you will want a physical clickwheel that you can adjust without having to look at it. Touch interfaces are cool, but they don't work for me when I'm going 40 mph downhill on a bicycle.


I've used my iPhone downhill on a bicycle at 40mph (as well as the gym and running) and it's fine. Granted I usually use the button on my Shure Music Adapter but it advances my songs. Perhaps Apple can start to include this type of earphone not just for the iPhone, but all iPod's as well. While they are at it, no earphones, earBUDS please. The earphones Apple gives you hurt SO bad! :)

[BornAgainMac]

If the Zune Nano copies the Fat iPod Nano design this year that would be funny.

[padmasana]

I've used my iPhone downhill on a bicycle at 40mph (as well as the gym and running) and it's fine. Granted I usually use the button on my Shure Music Adapter but it advances my songs. Perhaps Apple can start to include this type of earphone not just for the iPhone, but all iPod's as well. While they are at it, no earphones, earBUDS please. The earphones Apple gives you hurt SO bad! :)

You are a braver human being than I.:)

[NC MacGuy]

I've used my iPhone downhill on a bicycle at 40mph (as well as the gym and running) and it's fine. Granted I usually use the button on my Shure Music Adapter but it advances my songs. Perhaps Apple can start to include this type of earphone not just for the iPhone, but all iPod's as well. While they are at it, no earphones, earBUDS please. The earphones Apple gives you hurt SO bad! :)

I think you need a shuffle.;) I use mine for anything active and since I shouldn't be looking at a screen, the simple push button interface works great. Another plus is if I drop it, lose it, run it over, get water or sweat on it, it's not a bloody fortune to get another.

[bytethese]

You are a braver human being than I.:)

I'm not sure if it's braver or perhaps that I may be at a higher level of stupidity. :) Not usually too many people on the Queensboro bridge bike path and when I start to go downhill, I feel like I am racing cars...time to change my music! haha

[dvince2]

Apple is never going to go as low to copy microsoft.
:o
really? Really? Did you really just say that? Are you actually convinced that every single piece of technology made by apple is completly free of influience from Microsoft?

[thecartoonguy]

If an iPod nano were built like this, it will remind me of a Zune.

I agree. Then I would have to attempt to french kiss a baboon while downing a six without falling off an angry camel. It just doesn't make any sense.

[thecartoonguy]

:o
really? Really? Did you really just say that? Are you actually convinced that every single piece of technology made by apple is completly free of influience from Microsoft?

Oh great NOW you're going to say there is no Easter Bunny and the Elves in the tree making cookies are not real..... right? Oh GOD NO SAY IT'S NOT TRUE OH GOD HUMANS MAKES THE COOKIES?!?!? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH:p

[Dustman]

I was thinking the same exact thing. Expect no ugly brown red or pink. It will have the apple design and yes it may be red and pink, but it will be a better hue.



I agree. like the ipod touch/iphone has. You touch the screen and the contols are brought up..

Guess people really hate the 3G ipod nano. I dont have a problem with it. its not that fat.... :rolleyes:

I love my 3rd Gen Nano. IMO its the best nano design yet, from a looks standpoint anyways, the 1st and 2nd Gens were more comfortable in your hand. But I love the shape of the current nanos. That mock-up looks terrible. It makes the Zune look nice.. in comparison.

[Sweetbike40]

I love my Phattie. Sorry to see them get bigger. Video is pretty sweet on the current nano.

I love the Phattie too. It fits so perfectly clipped on my vase in my VW Beetle. It's so cute. And yes, the size of the screen is nice. This mock looks like the old Nano. :confused:

[cwoloszynski]

This is a fake. Apple announced that they were going to reduce their margin in their product line to 'corner a market'. My bet is that they are moving the iPod nano to a touch platform with AppStore support. Smaller screen than the iPod Touch, probably less storage, but no click wheel.

This will leave them with a touch solution with App store support across the line (except for the shuffle, which is in a different space).

The iPod Nano 4G posted here, with App Store support, is where we'll be by Christmas.

[notjustjay]

:o
really? Really? Did you really just say that? Are you actually convinced that every single piece of technology made by apple is completly free of influience from Microsoft?

Heh! Yes, I'm enjoying the double standard.

Article about Microsoft copying Apple: "Again! Those thieves! Why can't they be creative! It'll still suck! Blah blah blah."

Article about Apple copying Microsoft: "Oooh, this product will rock! Copying the Zune? ... meh. Apple would never stoop that low. But this will still be better!"

[BlakTornado]

If you have to turn it on it's side all the time, then surely that could be combined with orientation sensing and, well, some nice apps like Safari ;)

[matperk]

This is a fake. Apple announced that they were going to reduce their margin in their product line to 'corner a market'. My bet is that they are moving the iPod nano to a touch platform with AppStore support. Smaller screen than the iPod Touch, probably less storage, but no click wheel.

While I agree that this one is probably fake, I can't see apple making this kind of move. Apple really likes to have product segmentation, and this would really blur the line between the nano and the touch. Also I think it would be useless to make a touch screen that small.

Also, they just completely changed the form factor of the nano from this kind of tall to short and stubby -- why would they change it back?

[Popeye206]

Nahhh... I think Apple is way more creative than to just copy other MP3's out there... especially the Zune!

Personally, I think we may see something way more innovative than just another redesign of the same old thing... I'm thinking a Touch Nano is on the way. Either way... Apple needs some to do something completely different and I'm sure they are thinking the same thing. It's time to reinvent the mass market MP3.

[salamence502]

Honestly, I'd never buy an iPod nano if it looked like this. It just looks, how to say, "out of shape" imo.

[Redline13]

Why is this story rated so negatively? When these come out most of you are going to slobber all over them and go buy one.

[castillo]

3g nano is awesome as is. watch videos all the time. super thin.

yet, the clickwheel is so flush with the case that it is very hard to feel where it is when it is in your pocket. 2g nano was much better in this regard.

as the dude said about 40mph on a bike... touch screens suck. i often like to change tracks/volume without taking the nano out of my pocket even when walking... this shouldn't be a challenge.

[rfrankl]

I like the 3G Nano shape much better. I just wish they would add a radio tuner. Sometimes in the gym, you see something on one of the tvs you would like to hear, and it would be nice to tune to that radio frequency so you could hear it.

[bytethese]

I think you need a shuffle.;) I use mine for anything active and since I shouldn't be looking at a screen, the simple push button interface works great. Another plus is if I drop it, lose it, run it over, get water or sweat on it, it's not a bloody fortune to get another.

I have a $500 iPhone, no way am I going to buy another iPod. :) Besides, I like to choose my music on occasion and with no display, a shuffle doesn't cut it. I bought an armband for my iPhone, no way to drop it, lose it, run it over, get sweat or water on it! :)

[NC MacGuy]

Why is this story rated so negatively? When these come out most of you are going to slobber all over them and go buy one.

Looks like you know the drill...;)

[scotty56]

I always preferred the origional versions (1&2) over the fat model. But is calling it zune-like really appropriate?

[albusseverus]

Remember those 2.8" screens everybody thought were for an iPhone Nano?
They fit perfectly into the current shape of the Nano.

It's a Touch Nano, (almost) same size and shape as the G3. The rumour people just don't want to give away their sources.

And the glass trackpad on the MacBook? is the screen, dummy. Rumour people just want to string it out for a couple of months...

[kerryn]

Urgh... I just want the 2nd gen of nano's back. A small, simple ipod with a lot of flash based storage.

+1

I can't see a reason to change out my 2G nano. I only want it for music. I couldn't care less about movies on such a small screen plus where would I watch them? The only time I have time for a movie is on a plane and I can pull out the Macbook then....

[iReality85]

I love the current nano. It feels so warm and nice to hold!

I believe that's the first time I've ever heard someone use such colorful language when describing how it feels to grip an iPod.:p

As for the rumored re-design, I dunno. Looks like a Zune knock-off, personally. I don't think there's anything wrong with the nano 3G... besides, the long screen + small click wheel looks funky and out of proportion.

My $.02

[matperk]

As for the rumored re-design, I dunno. Looks like a Zune knock-off, personally. I don't think there's anything wrong with the nano 3G... besides, the long screen + small click wheel looks funky and out of proportion.

Well, I don't think this is legit, but the 3G nano looked pretty funky when I first saw it, now it's grown on me.

[deannnnn]

I like this idea much better than the "fattie" haha.
The current iPod nano looks like some chinese iPod ripoff.

[137489]

+1

I can't see a reason to change out my 2G nano. I only want it for music. I couldn't care less about movies on such a small screen plus where would I watch them? The only time I have time for a movie is on a plane and I can pull out the Macbook then....


I could see your point about movies - after all about 1/2 hr into it, is when you are hooked and can't stop watching....

However, I had family in town and we went out to eat. We had (they said 1/2 hr) to wait over an hour before being seated. I pulled out my palm centro and started watching CNN and a couple of other shows on the sprint TV.

One thing I hate about wtching TV on the internet. Some require Windows Media Player/Silverlight - others require Real (who uses Real anymore?), some quicktime, others some other software to download. That is a real hassle.

The networks need to have one standard and everyone has to use it. Otherwise, we may never see good use of streaming TV over the internet.

[dasikes]

I don't know what it is, but this just screams false rumor. :-/

[BenRoethig]

Can people not see that the whole line will be touch screen, and look similar?

iPod Classic will become iPod Touch, with current Hdd
iPod Touch will merge with iPod Nano, and there will be a current iPod Touch Size, and a smaller more Nano size.

Im thinking iPod Video will come back, as the touch screen Hdd based Classic.
iPod touch will stay the same, maybe be just the iPod now?
iPod Nano will be a smaller iPod Touch.

Yeah, but considering the cost of components, making basically a small touch might be too expensive at this time.

[Flobber88]

I was thinking apple would be done with the click wheel and just implement a touch screen. It can still have the nano size but won't have any wasted space...

The artist's rendition is pretty ugly, although knowing Apple they always do something amazing.... except for the MBA:rolleyes:

[serpico]

Way to go Apple, go backwards instead of forward. Use the previous design & add a larger screen. Please. My wife had the older one and it was too tall. I use the current model and it is perfect. Screen could be bigger, but that's what the other ipods are for. Might as well buy a zune if you like this form factor. Apple seems to be out of ideas for form factors now. Hey Apple, how about some software feature upgrades instead. iTunes & the ipod software is tired.

[olternaut]

I think the click wheel is on its way out bro..

Agreed. The reason why its growing taller is because they are going to give it a full length screen. The clickwheel will have to go. Its going to be a mini-touch. The design might even hint at a future mini iphone design as well.

[cleanup]

I remember making somethign like this a while ago. It's for the "iPhone nano" however. And I did use a touchscreen + ClickWheel combo so debunk it all you want! =] It's meant to have the Click Wheel because it has a standard touchscreen, not a multitouch, but then again, I'm an idiot.

Here it is, just for viewing enjoyment. Also attached is a very old iPod concept I made from way back—before the iPhone came out.

[commander.data]

The long iPod Nano actually looks more like a Sandisk Sansa e200 series than a Zune.

[Proud Liberal]

However i think the classic will retain the click wheel for those who like the traditional design.. i think Apple will keep it until flash memory approaches the classic's hard drive capacity...

I agree...I have a hard time believing that Apple will go backwards in terms of storage capacity offerings at this time (i.e. eliminating the HDD iPod classic). I think it would be unprecedented for them - every iPod refresh that I can remember has included an increased capacity offering, either HDD or flash.

I'm actually hoping that the classic refresh (hoping there is one in September!) includes the elimination of cover flow and an increase in capacity to 200GBs.

[iNfowarrior]

Stupid and ugly design. When did video suddenly become so important for the iPod nano??

It's used 99.9% as music player by anyone who owns it.

Why do they need to market everything to same customers? Right now, the iPod touch is essentially the worst buy you could possibly make.

Terrible, terrible business models.

[branjosef]

So what if its a little bigger and incorporates the iphone interface a bit. I say bring it on- although I don't know how it will fit in my pocket. Boy it would sure be awkward explaining to the ladies in the club that it is in fact just an ipod nano and I am not happy to see them :D

[137489]

I remember making somethign like this a while ago. It's for the "iPhone nano" however. And I did use a touchscreen + ClickWheel combo so debunk it all you want! =] It's meant to have the Click Wheel because it has a standard touchscreen, not a multitouch, but then again, I'm an idiot.

Here it is, just for viewing enjoyment. Also attached is a very old iPod concept I made from way back—before the iPhone came out.

Funny, I see a lot of devices when I google portable or pocket computer that resembles your ipod with the slideout keyboard. However, I do like it for someone like myself who likes real keys and found it awkward to type on the virtual keyboard when trying out one of the first iphones ever sold.

You should have patented that design. Here are just a few I googled (of course apple would have abetter concept.

http://blog.loaz.com/media/pachyderm-on-pocketpc.jpg

http://www.imagecows.com/uploads/_bdeb-att_8525_pocketpc_phone.jpg

http://www.mobilewhack.com/glofiish-m750-pocket-pc-phone.jpg

[iNfowarrior]

I'm actually hoping that the classic refresh (hoping there is one in September!) includes the elimination of cover flow and an increase in capacity to 200GBs.

Seriously.....what? Elimination of cover flow? Yes its useless but the paragraph before you were just raving about how Apple doesn't take steps backward :confused:

200 gb??? It is already offered at 160 gb. Thats like complaining about a 200 million dollar lottery win that you only actually got 160 million out of.

If you need more than 160 gig of anything on an iPod at any given time....then you need help. Period.

[Darth.Titan]

This thread reminds me SO much of the discussion when the "fattie" nano was first rumored...
"No way Apple will make the Nano look like that..."
"Looks like it's overweight..."
"... deal-breaker..."
"If Apple does this the iPod is DOOMED!"

Now people have suddenly fallen in love with the new form factor and going back to one similar to the 1 and 2G is unthinkable? Only time will tell.

"Copying" the Zune? It's a small rectangle with a screen and a controller. Of course it's gonna look similar. I just look at it as a larger screen on the 2G formfactor.

[iNfowarrior]

Funny, I see a lot of devices when I google portable or pocket computer that resembles your ipod with the slideout keyboard. However, I do like it for someone like myself who likes real keys and found it awkward to type on the virtual keyboard when trying out one of the first iphones ever sold.

You should have patented that design. Here are just a few I googled................



Every single one one of those is ugly, cheap cheap cheap quality, and practically unusable. Slideout keyboard = 13 year old.
90% plastic, 10% screen = someone who doesn't what their pictures or video looks like (yet it has all those grrrrrrrrrreat features which are soooooo usable...nope).

[iMacmatician]

That's right, the click wheel's not going away anytime soon.

This reminds me of all the mockups last year of the iPod nano, with tilt sensors and all that.

I still think 9 to 5 mac's multicolor rumor is correct; they got the colors right last year.

I wonder if there's someone out there capable enough to do up a mockup of the supposed design using the 3G iPod nano as a base rather than the 2G?

That would at least give us an idea as to the correct gradients and curves around the edges as well as using one of the more subdued colours from the 3G - the iLounge mockup looks a little weird because of the sharp corners and the old colour.Coming right up.

Did anyone see the other update Macrumors posted on Page 1, right after this one, about the same thing?

Looks like it was taken down.WHAAAAT??!! Which one? Screenshot/cache please! Details?

Rectangular is one thing, but who said the clickwheel is staying? why not touch only like the previous pictures?The rumor?To fit the screen and Click Wheel neatly together, the new nano will adopt a form factor that shifts away from the almost square dimensions of the 2007 third-generation nano back towards the general shape of the first- and second-generation models.

[bacaramac]

Horrible!! :mad:

God I hope they don't do this, I would think they would stick with the screen layout of the iPod Classic. This to me looks like a backwards design from the current model. Unless Apple makes it look better then this picture, it is ugly.

[branjosef]

Every single one one of those is ugly, cheap cheap cheap quality, and practically unusable. Slideout keyboard = 13 year old.
90% plastic, 10% screen = someone who doesn't what their pictures or video looks like (yet it has all those grrrrrrrrrreat features which are soooooo usable...nope).

I had the middle one (ATT 8525) and it sucked. Whenever I would put it up to my ear and use it as a phone, it would connect to the internet because the loser that designed the phone put the internet explorer button right next to the earpiece on the phone (look for yourself). Since it had 3G it would just connect and I would be none the wiser and my phone would die as it sucked up all my battery. I eventually had to disable the button. i wasnt able to truly fix the problem until I threw it against a wall and broke it. Problem fixed.. crappy phone.

[applefanatic]

It looks like one of those knockoff iPods that are so rampantly sold on ebay. I think it is hideous.

[thecartoonguy]

So what if its a little bigger and incorporates the iphone interface a bit. I say bring it on- although I don't know how it will fit in my pocket. Boy it would sure be awkward explaining to the ladies in the club that it is in fact just an ipod nano and I am not happy to see them :D

LOL I love it

[iMacmatician]

Does anybody think that Apple will use the same portrait screen design for the next iPod classic?

The 3G nano looked like a smaller 6G classic anyway.

To all the complaining: I heard the same complaints last year when the "fat" nano was leaked. Looks ugly, 2G iPod nano was better, blah blah blah. At least find some new ways of complaining.

[benflick]

hideous!

[iNfowarrior]

However, I had family in town and we went out to eat. We had (they said 1/2 hr) to wait over an hour before being seated. I pulled out my palm centro and started watching CNN and a couple of other shows on the sprint TV.


Wow thats polite.

Anyone else can't stand people who do this in social situations? (prolly on the wrong site for that question).

[DsurioN]

Eww... The fattie's not great but the "tallie" is even worse lol

[techlover828]

that's disgusting..

[branjosef]

Eww... The fattie's not great but the "tallie" is even worse lol

Ah brings back memories of my youth :eek:

[branjosef]

Wow thats polite.

Anyone else can't stand people who do this in social situations? (prolly on the wrong site for that question).

I agree.

[iReality85]

Eww... The fattie's not great but the "tallie" is even worse lol

Who doesn't love a fattie? :D :cool:

[Proud Liberal]

Seriously.....what? Elimination of cover flow? Yes its useless but the paragraph before you were just raving about how Apple doesn't take steps backward :confused:

200 gb??? It is already offered at 160 gb. Thats like complaining about a 200 million dollar lottery win that you only actually got 160 million out of.

If you need more than 160 gig of anything on an iPod at any given time....then you need help. Period.

How is eliminating Cover Flow taking a step backwards? Apple eliminated the ability to Shuffle entire albums on the Touch & iPhone, but clearly they didn't view it as taking a step backwards...Going from offering a max capacity of 160GB down to 32GB is going backwards.

Your comparison of HDD space to winning the lottery is retarded, at best. As I understand it, 1.8" HDDs for iPods are only offered in increments of 80GBs, so actually I should have said 240GBs. I already have the 160GB iPod and my music collection continues to grow. But the bottom line is this: why do you CARE about how much storage space somebody else wants/needs? Get a life!

It never ceases to amaze me how many people like you on these boards absolutely rail against those of us who have HUGE music collections or WANT huge HDD portable devices so that we can rip to lossless formats & still carry our ENTIRE music collection with us. It's not your place to judge how/why people use their iPods. Period. Thank gawd Apple doesn't subscribe to your way of thinking. You sound like the nimrods who told us that we'd never need more than 200MBs of computer storage too...how'd that logic work out?

[jordo]

Gahhhhhhhhhh! Please don't relate any new Apple innovation with a previous Microsuck development. Having said that, it doesn't look that bad...

[Proud Liberal]

Stupid and ugly design. When did video suddenly become so important for the iPod nano??

It's used 99.9% as music player by anyone who owns it.

Why do they need to market everything to same customers? Right now, the iPod touch is essentially the worst buy you could possibly make.

Terrible, terrible business models.

Wow...your chronic hubris knows no bounds...Since you're so smart & have a better pulse of what people should want/need, why don't you present your case to the Apple Board of Directors and submit your application to take Steve Jobs place as CEO? Let us all know how that works out for you.

[CJM]

I'll bet my left nut this article has only got so many negatives because of the Zune comparison photo.

[Proud Liberal]

I'll bet my left nut this article has only got so many negatives is because there was a picture of a Zune in comparison.

sure hope you still have your right one! :D Couldn't resist!

[iMacmatician]

.

[branjosef]

Im thinking they will get rid of the click wheel unless the "taller" information means only slightly taller. We'll just have to wait an see.

[bacaramac]

.

I like these, I am not sure why they put the old sytle with a bigger screen in the ariticle.

[Porco]

I'll bet my left nut this article has only got so many negatives because of the Zune comparison photo.

Yes, I voted negative for that reason. Not out of any hate for MS, but because the mock-up blatantly looks much, much more like the old iPod Mini than the Zune.

Maybe I missed someone else saying it, but I can't believe no-one else has noticed yet... Go and look at the old green mini and then that mock up and seriously tell me it's more like the Zune in any way other than screen dimensions. It's a silly comparison, probably designed to cause silly controversy in my opinion. That's why I voted negative on the story.

Edit: I just noticed the second comment on the ilounge story mentions its similarity to the mini! MY comments still stand though.

Personally I don't think it looks terrible (the mock up), I'm a fan of widescreen video, but I do question its usefulness in what is still primarily a music player firs and foremost.

[iMACTASTIC]

I figure itd be easy to write the sftware to make the track wheel sensors change which way is straight up by a simple script. Using an accelerometor. Which actually makes lots of sense.

What im wondering is what about the play/pause/menu buttons??

Its possible apple makes those buttons LCD lit up...and when you rotat the device, the device senses that an re-arranges the positionin of th buttons

I think that would be pretty neat...

Yeah great idea....then they can add 50.00 to the price point? whats the point?

[huntercr]

Urgh... I just want the 2nd gen of nano's back. A small, simple ipod with a lot of flash based storage.

I'm with you.. the form factor of the 1st gen and 2nd gen were fantastic. It was comfortable in your hand. The latest gen is just simply too small... it's pretty but not as good as the old one.

The artist's rendition looks a little odd, but the wide screen would be welcomed. Wonder what the resolution would be though...

[olternaut]

For the classic, I bet they'll just merge the the touch and the classic together, giving users a choice of their touch with either flash memory in a thin form like the current one, or a thicker form factor with an internal hard disk drive.

I say no. Hard drives are on their way out. Prices for hard drives are continually dropping so Steve is going to want his future ipods to be all flash based. If prices are still not cheap enough he will continue to have his line up in transition mode. In other words he will not have a "classic" hard drive based player with a multitouch screen. He wants to reinforce them as old fashioned. Any future hard drive based ipod will have a click wheel.

[Aznsensation45]

hopefully it won't look like the artist's rendition because it is UGLY!

[Klaxons2012]

I'll bet my left nut this article has only got so many negatives because of the Zune comparison photo.

That's exactly why. I think the screen idea is really awkward. I rather like the fatty because the form factor is perfect for the target audience. Of course, all things in due time will be revealed and Apple will develop a way for me to buy this for Christmas.

[Hattig]

I liked my iPod nano 3G ... so did someone else 'cos they stole it.

Have been hanging on waiting for a new model since then. Either a new Touch, or a new nano. Need more than 8GB though, that was the downer with the old nano.

[Klaxons2012]

hopefully it won't look like the artist's rendition because it is UGLY!

I don't think it's ugly, but it's just awkward. Having to tilt you screen to watch a smaller video isn't ideal in my opinion.

[ziwi]

If an iPod nano were built like this, it will remind me of a Zune.
It was the Nano (first gen) - then Apple changed it (3rd Gen) so don't think they are copying a Zune...

[coolant113]

That ipod looks exactly like the fake ipods that are on the black market. I dont think thats going to be the new ipod. :apple::apple:

[ArtOfWarfare]

I think this idea is ridiculous.

I think it's more likely the iPod Nano will lose the click wheel and have it replaced with touch screen controls. It'll probably keep the name iPod Nano because it won't have all the other cool features of the iPod Touch. They'll keep it focused on just being a small music and video player... no other applications or wi-fi connection like the iPod Touch (which in addition to having less storage capacity is why it'll cost less than the iPod Touch.)

Edit: Meh, what do I know? It's what I think makes sense. But I haven't heard any rumors for anything like what I described.

[achtung!]

thank god we're getting rid of the fatty! it was the worst ipod version so far. besides it’s bad proportions, badly balanced weight, the tapered sides didn’t persuade me at all.

i hope they also bring back a full anodized aluminium ipod. polished metal is "pretty", is shinny, but for sure isn't the right solution for something to have in you pocket right beside you car keys, prone to fall, scratches and sticky fingerprints.

if my expectation are correct, now i'll definitely buy an Ipod.
Come one apple, it’s time! :D

[Schizoid]

YUK YUK YUK YUK!!! i like the little pudgey fella, looks cute rather than a lanky thing

Yeah me too, Steve Ballmer is much better than Steve Jobs...
And I hope the new iZune comes with a movie of Ballmer on too for us all to look at...

I love my Zune and I'm going to phone God on it now and watch Lord of the Rings.... mmmm is that gravy in your ear Mrs Harlequin? WoChoo!

[tgildred]

So okay..

1) Ipod classic - for the huge music playlists
2) ipod touch - genius
3) ipod shuffle - great for running and working out
4) ipod nano - hmm...not sure where it fits

It fits in at #3, actually.

[Doodledoo]

if you ask me, this is much better than mr. zuney in the mockup. hopefully they just go with touch instead.

[ChadBrommer]

I am thinking that if they do make the screen bigger it'll be turned. It only makes sense. Possibly no longer the shiny back? Maybe something like the back of the iphone wither orig. or 3g.

[jephrey]

Is it bad to go back to the original form factor? The wide guy was neat, but there's more wasted face space, and that's not good for the footprint of the thing... Second, if the next iPod classic looks similar or has a smaller scroll-wheel, the response to this RUMOR makes me think everyone would freak out that it too looks more like the Zune.

Change is NOT bad. If this is the new form factor of the nano, just based on mechanical design (not really the shell because I believe they'd round it out like the fatty...

Pros:
Less wasted face space.
Larger screen.
Better aspect ratio (closer to 16:9)

Cons:
it looks like the previous nano

[AliensAreFuzzy]

I am thinking that if they do make the screen bigger it'll be turned. It only makes sense. Possibly no longer the shiny back? Maybe something like the back of the iphone wither orig. or 3g.

I don't know if they'd rotate the controls. The way it is now is so ingrained in everyones minds as the way it should be.

[FuuFuu]

if you ask me, this is much better than mr. zuney in the mockup. hopefully they just go with touch instead.

agreed, that looks pretty sweet but the odds are, i don't they're not going to do that. since its simply a thinner and smaller version of ipod touch, it just wouldn't make any sense.

i would go with the horizontal ipod nano image i've been seeing often.

[ChadBrommer]

It'd be easier though...It could be totally controlled with the thumb. I mean, so many people that are gamers are already used to using their thumbs to control things, and it wouldn't be hard learn. I think it actually may be easier than holding in one hand and using the finger of another...

[nagromme]

I'd like to see the nano have a multitouch screen just SLIGHTLY smaller than the Touch's screen, with minimal surrounding frame (no wide top/bottom), no wheel, and a Home button shaped like a little spacebar built into the frame. Thinner than a Touch, with lower battery life, but it would still work like a Touch and still be much smaller than a Touch. Even if it would be a LITTLE bigger than the current nano.

Probably not possible yet, but it will be.

[paulshephard]

I absolutely love one of the earlier iPod Classic mock-ups that was shown, from searching Google. I love the way it resembles the current iMac.

I hope they dont deviate too much from the current designs, I think they've got it spot on really.

With regards to some people suggesting that the Classics will be eradicated, I highly doubt it, unless they incorporate large capacities into another model. Every single person I know owns a Classic.
I find that the average user can fill up even the higher end 16Gb model of Nano quite easily, especially when you're considering putting films on there etc.

[flashframe]

The clickwheel would need to be rotated to fit the 16:9 ratio screen wouldn't it?

[caliguy]

Apple won't do this. This is the most unprogressive thing they could do. If they were gonna go with this form factor, they would have done it well before Msoft came out with the nanoish Zune.

I'm betting on possibly touch features... but things can only get so small. If we just have a little square of touch video display, how are we going to comfortably watch stuff? I guess the only thing left is a 16:9 candybar nano. Really small.. that'd be tight.

[EMT123]

I dig the third gen nano

[powermac_daddy]

i dig none of them

[paulshephard]

Apple won't do this. This is the most unprogressive thing they could do. If they were gonna go with this form factor, they would have done it well before Msoft came out with the nanoish Zune.

I'm betting on possibly touch features... but things can only get so small. If we just have a little square of touch video display, how are we going to comfortably watch stuff? I guess the only thing left is a 16:9 candybar nano. Really small.. that'd be tight.

I agree, the candybar nano would be amazing :)
Especially if it was literally just a screen, like the Touch etc, with on screen controls.

[Apple Ink]

I believe that's the first time I've ever heard someone use such colorful language when describing how it feels to grip an iPod.:p



ROFL:D:D

[iParis]

:o
really? Really? Did you really just say that? Are you actually convinced that every single piece of technology made by apple is completly free of influience from Microsoft?

Well they would never copy them for an iPod or make it this obvious.
I'm sure they're done similar things as Microsoft, but I doubt they will copy a whole hardware design.

~Off Topic~ Holy crap, this got about 100 more post from the time I went to bed to the time I woke up.

[iParis]

Seriously.....what? Elimination of cover flow? Yes its useless but the paragraph before you were just raving about how Apple doesn't take steps backward :confused:

200 gb??? It is already offered at 160 gb. Thats like complaining about a 200 million dollar lottery win that you only actually got 160 million out of.

If you need more than 160 gig of anything on an iPod at any given time....then you need help. Period.

Really?
I need a 250GB iPod.
I have the 80GB and there is 210GBs of media on my iTunes.

[allymac]

Aw man I love fatty. Looks like I might be in a minority though :D

Think I might have to buy a spare or two!

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Really?
I need a 250GB iPod.
I have the 80GB and there is 210GBs of media on my iTunes.

you really don't. You need playlists

[bigmc6000]

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit...

Just leave the nano the way it is, you start making it bigger and it won't be "nano"... I think they should introduce a HD based Touch, 160GB and call it the iPod Pro or something since Apple likes to put "Pro" onto the end of their high end products.

[twoodcc]

well i'll believe this when i see it in person

[Chupa Chupa]

A taller and/or wider screen nano doesn't make any sense to me. What would be the dif b/t that and a Touch other than the click wheel? Doesn't make sense to me. Right now each iPod has its own unique characteristic. For the nano to get bigger would make it no longer nano.

[bigmc6000]

you really don't. You need playlists

I suppose he could have a number of movies that eat up 2GB+ per. That could eat into your space pretty quick if you use your iTunes as a movie archive...

[KindredMAC]

Really?
I need a 250GB iPod.
I have the 80GB and there is 210GBs of media on my iTunes.

Ah yes, but do you really NEED all of that media at your finger tips at all times?

I'm not flaming or picking... just asking because I feel the same way as you do at times but then ask myself the question and I always answer back to myself "no I don't NEED everything all the time."

If I know I am going to be going somewhere away from my computer for a while I will load up what I think I will need on my iPhone for that trip. BTW, it's the original 4 GB iPhone. I don't NEED all of my music, I have created 2 playlists that sync up. I don't NEED all of my movies/TV Shows, so I sync one or two depending on sizes. The one thing that I feel I DO need are my photos. I can't tell you how many times I've been talking to someone and pulled out the iPhone to show them a pic from like 4 years ago.

I've found that 4GBs is just enough for my needs. Would I LIKE an 8GB or 16GB model? Hell yes! Do I NEED a 16GB iPhone, no, but I am hedging on NEEDING an 8GB iPhone in the next revision though.

[ArtOfWarfare]

Would you even keep the idea of the physical button (the home button) if the Nano's wheel got replaced by a touch screen? Seems like all you need is the touch screen and hold switch.

[iParis]

you really don't. You need playlists

No!
I will go crazy if I have to decide between what to put on and what not to.
I like having as much music and videos with me as possible.
I need a 250GB Classic.
I don't mind if they stop there, I will be happy.

[gcmexico]

I like the current nanos...don't dig this mock up

[Proud Liberal]

you really don't. You need playlists

People like you need to stop dictating to people like me what I need and how I should use it. What is it that you people don't get about people with large music/video collections wanting to carry their ENTIRE collection with them ALL THE TIME???? I travel for my job ALOT and do not have the time nor desire to decide in advance what I might want to listen to or watch (i.e. playlists) every time I'm away from home. That's the WHOLE POINT of a large HDD device. Why can't you understand that? And why does it bother you that people do have large media collections? Why do you even care?

Do you EVER see people on these boards/forums who have large media librariers castigating those who have an iPod shuffle or an 8GB nano/touch? I defy you to do a search and find that that is a common occurrence. Yet, those of us who have large media libraries are always berated for it. Enough already...get over it. It is what it is. Live your life the way you choose to & leave others alone to do the same.

[iParis]

People like you need to stop dictating to people like me what I need and how I should use it. What is it that you people don't get about people with large music/video collections wanting to carry their ENTIRE collection with them ALL THE TIME???? I travel for my job ALOT and do not have the time nor desire to decide in advance what I might want to listen to or watch (i.e. playlists) every time I'm away from home. That's the WHOLE POINT of a large HDD device. Why can't you understand that? And why does it bother you that people do have large media collections? Why do you even care?

Do you EVER see people on these boards/forums who have large media librariers castigating those who have an iPod shuffle or an 8GB nano/touch? I defy you to do a search and find that that is a common occurrence. Yet, those of us who have large media libraries are always berated for it. Enough already...get over it. It is what it is. Live your life the way you choose to & leave others alone to do the same.

Finally someone has said something.
It seems that people like us are being forgotten about and pushed off to the side when it comes to talk about the capacity of future iPods.
Thank you! ^_^

[njohnson]

That won't happen
more likely than that would be make the screen take up most of the nano and the wheel abandoned for good, a simple nano touch would be great. it could also explain a few other rumors like the iPod2,1 thing.

[njohnson]

Would you even keep the idea of the physical button (the home button) if the Nano's wheel got replaced by a touch screen? Seems like all you need is the touch screen and hold switch.

Word!

[iReality85]

Why do so many people believe (or, for that matter, want) the new nano to sport a touch screen? Thats an awefully small touch screen! Forget feasiblity, the usablity alone makes touch a bad idea for the nano. Unless you have fingers tips the size of a penil tip, youll be fat-fingering every option. Not to mention, Apple sure isnt going to make it any wider then it currently is, nor any taller than it was before. Making it bigger would defeat the Nano's purpose. Also, consider the battery. It is small, and touch capability would suck a lot of juice really quick from the poor nano. Then you'd all be complaining about battery life! Lets get real, touch capability on the nano is not going to happen. Plus, whats so wrong with the click wheel?? What about then your driving, or working out, or its in your jeans, or your in the dark? Tactile input has many, many advantages over a glossy touch screen.

[bacaramac]

That won't happen
more likely than that would be make the screen take up most of the nano and the wheel abandoned for good, a simple nano touch would be great. it could also explain a few other rumors like the iPod2,1 thing.

No this is the most logical statement I have seen in this horrible thread. Nano Touch as I don't see the need to change the current touch.

[Proud Liberal]

Finally someone has said something.
It seems that people like us are being forgotten about and pushed off to the side when it comes to talk about the capacity of future iPods.
Thank you! ^_^

This has been a pet peeve of mine for quite some time. I suspect that the comments about large libraries are coming from the contingent of 10-13 year olds who frequent these boards and who don't have a clue about anything; i.e. as you get older and more mature (we hope!), your musical tastes tend to change, thus growing media libraries. Speaking only for myself, I find that I go through phases throughout the year in terms of my musical tastes. For example, right now I'm in Big Band music phase, so I've been buying some new stuff to listen to. And thus, my library grows bigger & I need more storage space for it. What a concept!

[iParis]

Why do so many people believe (or, for that matter, want) the new nano to sport a touch screen? Thats an awefully small touch screen! Forget feasiblity, the usablity alone makes touch a bad idea for the nano. Unless you have fingers tips the size of a penil tip, youll be fat-fingering every option. Not to mention, Apple sure isnt going to make it any wider then it currently is, nor any taller than it was before. Making it bigger would defeat the Nano's purpose. Also, consider the battery. It is small, and touch capability would suck a lot of juice really quick from the poor nano. Then you'd all be complaining about battery life! Lets get real, touch capability on the nano is not going to happen. Plus, whats so wrong with the click wheel?? What about then your driving, or working out, or its in your jeans, or your in the dark? Tactile input has many, many advantages over a glossy touch screen.

Said like a true Apple fan.
I hate it when people complain about a flaw they new was coming.
And I always change songs when it's in my jeans because I don't feel like taking it out.
Plus, we are more likely to see a watered down version of the Touch on the Classic than see one on the Nano.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

People like you need to stop dictating to people like me what I need and how I should use it. What is it that you people don't get about people with large music/video collections wanting to carry their ENTIRE collection with them ALL THE TIME???? I travel for my job ALOT and do not have the time nor desire to decide in advance what I might want to listen to or watch (i.e. playlists) every time I'm away from home. That's the WHOLE POINT of a large HDD device. Why can't you understand that? And why does it bother you that people do have large media collections? Why do you even care?

Do you EVER see people on these boards/forums who have large media librariers castigating those who have an iPod shuffle or an 8GB nano/touch? I defy you to do a search and find that that is a common occurrence. Yet, those of us who have large media libraries are always berated for it. Enough already...get over it. It is what it is. Live your life the way you choose to & leave others alone to do the same.

are you serious? I was talking about nanos. How did this conversation veer off into the HDD based iPods?

It's people like me who at least try to stay on topic.

[Chupa Chupa]

No!
I will go crazy if I have to decide between what to put on and what not to.
I like having as much music and videos with me as possible.
I need a 250GB Classic.
I don't mind if they stop there, I will be happy.


If you are so indecisive as to get stymied when figuring what music to play maybe the size of an iPod's memory isn't your real problem. ;)

OK, seriously, I kind of know what you are talking about. I have a 500+ CD collection myself. I waited for for a 160GB forever. When it was announced I quickly sold my 80GB iPod. Then I couldn't find a 160GB model. I relied on my 8GB nano. Funny thing happened. I learned to be selective when choosing what music to put on my player. 8G is OK. I can't even listen to that much music in a week. If I get bored I just change up my music selection. (I never did buy that 160GB player went it became available.)

[iParis]

are you serious? I was talking about nanos. How did this conversation veer off into the HDD based iPods?

It's people like me who at least try to stay on topic.

Actually, someone said they'd rather see a 200GB iPod (which would obviously be HDD) then I think I said something to a reply someone did to that, then you started to carry on the conversation and name reasons why we don't need a 200GB iPod.

I may be wrong but I think that's how it went.

[Proud Liberal]

are you serious? I was talking about nanos. How did this conversation veer off into the HDD based iPods?

It's people like me who at least try to stay on topic.

Since you can't remember what you said and to whom, I'll remind you (from your post, #199):

QUOTE Originally Posted by iParis
Really?
I need a 250GB iPod.
I have the 80GB and there is 210GBs of media on my iTunes.

QUOTE Originally Posted by tuffluffjimmy
you really don't. You need playlists.

Nice try, though....

[iParis]

If you are so indecisive as to get stymied when figuring what music to play maybe the size of an iPod's memory isn't your real problem. ;)

OK, seriously, I kind of know what you are talking about. I have a 500+ CD collection myself. I waited for for a 160GB forever. When it was announced I quickly sold my 80GB iPod. Then I couldn't find a 160GB model. I relied on my 8GB nano. Funny thing happened. I learned to be selective when choosing what music to put on my player. 8G is OK. I can't even listen to that much music in a week. If I get bored I just change up my music selection. (I never did buy that 160GB player went it became available.)


I like to show of my iPod and make other people jealous. DX.
So maybe if I got a 64GB Touch...
8GBs would be too small for me.
What I think would be a good idea for people like me that want everything at once, and want a Touch because of it's internet, can get a 160GB - 250GB (thinking ahead) Classic, AND an 8GB - 16GB Touch.

EDIT: I'm glad you found a technique that works for you, it's just not for me.

[Proud Liberal]

If you are so indecisive as to get stymied when figuring what music to play maybe the size of an iPod's memory isn't your real problem. ;)

OK, seriously, I kind of know what you are talking about. I have a 500+ CD collection myself. I waited for for a 160GB forever. When it was announced I quickly sold my 80GB iPod. Then I couldn't find a 160GB model. I relied on my 8GB nano. Funny thing happened. I learned to be selective when choosing what music to put on my player. 8G is OK. I can't even listen to that much music in a week. If I get bored I just change up my music selection. (I never did buy that 160GB player went it became available.)

It's great that that method works for you, but don't assume that everyone else would/should be satisfied with your preferred approach for their own needs.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Since you can't remember what you said and to whom, I'll remind you:

QUOTE Originally Posted by iParis
Really?
I need a 250GB iPod.
I have the 80GB and there is 210GBs of media on my iTunes.

QUOTE Originally Posted by tuffluffjimmy
you really don't. You need playlists.

Nice try, though....

no, I understood he had a classic. I thought he (eventually) wanted a nano in a comparable size. Considering the nanos now have more capacity than the original iPods.

[Vaphoron]

That mockup looks horrible so I hope this isn't true. I didn't really like the mockup of the current Nano before it was released either though but once I held one I really liked it. I do have faith in Apple to release something that has a wonderful design so if they go this route I expect it will look good.

[BlizzardBomb]

Nice mockup, iLounge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE) ;) Definitely a video we'd have on our nanos :p

[iParis]

no, I understood he had a classic. I thought he (eventually) wanted a nano in a comparable size. Considering the nanos now have more capacity than the original iPods.

Hmmm.... I'm pondering weather or not I should make a whole new thread on Apple's fall release.
Just like the rumors everyone's been having and whatnot.
It seems like this one is starting to get off topic.
Not just in terms of talking about the Touch or Classic, but the topic is the design of the new 4G Nano looking longer and more like the 2G.
Now we're starting to talk about it looking like the touch.

[The Killer Fuzz]

EWW.....no

[Peaceful]

Give me a break! Everyone knows that Apple's going to do an iPod nano touch (http://nathanstocks.blogspot.com/2008/07/ipod-nano-touch.html)!

http://nathanstocks.blogspot.com/2008/07/ipod-nano-touch.html

http://bp2.blogger.com/_Pk1UAIpsAmo/SJCsRGdozaI/AAAAAAAAAAs/ttAiECC3bzg/s1600-h/nano-touch-mockup.png

[Lesser Evets]

The wheel is programmable. you can hold the wheel in one hand and scroll with your finger up or down on the screen.In otherwords the screen is multi-touch and the wheel moves with the rotation.

Just watch.;)

That would be an instant buy from me. If it was like a mini-iPod-touch, about the size of a 2G nano, but all screen and has the track wheel on screen, it's good enough for me.

[paulshephard]

Give me a break! Everyone knows that Apple's going to do an iPod nano touch (http://nathanstocks.blogspot.com/2008/07/ipod-nano-touch.html)!

http://nathanstocks.blogspot.com/2008/07/ipod-nano-touch.html

http://bp2.blogger.com/_Pk1UAIpsAmo/SJCsRGdozaI/AAAAAAAAAAs/ttAiECC3bzg/s1600-h/nano-touch-mockup.png

I actually agree here, I think that natural progression would suggest a smaller iPod Touch like the one shown in the mock-up.

[Mattjeff]

Right there the Zune looks better then the ipod

[Mykbibby]

Very nice indeed :)
I know this is referring to Nano's, but we may even see HDD versions in higher capacities, with the same sort of idea. Now that would be nice ;-]

It sure would! :)

[Lyra]

At this point I don't even care... I'm looking for an excuse to buy the Black Nano. Some people say the Silver ones from Apple always tend to be better, but to that I say.... "That's a load of BS". Why would Apple purposefully make a difference in quality based on the color. Silly people...

Oh I read this at some iPod only website...

So... if the new Nanos DO look drastically different, I'm probably going for the current models. I don't want touch screen.

I have an iPod Touch and I love it, but to be honest, it's horrible in rainy conditions and during the winter (gloves don't work)

[Clayne]

So okay..

1) Ipod classic - for the huge music playlists
2) ipod touch - genius
3) ipod shuffle - great for running and working out
4) ipod nano - hmm...not sure where it fits

In my experience, nanos are perfect for youngsters who want an iPod but don't need 80Gb or 160Gb. They're cheap, small, durable, and hold enough media. They're a step up from the shuffle, which a lot of kids don't want cause it doesn't feel like an iPod to them - no screen!

Nanos are also good for very casual music listeners who want something that doesn't require them to budget their income.

I never really liked shuffles or understood the need for them (except for even younger youngsters), but after being on this board for a while now I know how perfect it is for people doing outdoor activities.

[carve]

In my experience, nanos are perfect for youngsters who want an iPod but don't need 80Gb or 160Gb. They're cheap, small, durable, and hold enough media. They're a step up from the shuffle, which a lot of kids don't want cause it doesn't feel like an iPod to them - no screen!

Nanos are also good for very casual music listeners who want something that doesn't require them to budget their income.

I never really liked shuffles or understood the need for them (except for even younger youngsters), but after being on this board for a while now I know how perfect it is for people doing outdoor activities.

I bring my shuffle to school with me. So if it got stolen I wouldn't be too horribly upset.

[ArtOfWarfare]

Plus, whats so wrong with the click wheel?? What about then your driving, or working out, or its in your jeans, or your in the dark? Tactile input has many, many advantages over a glossy touch screen.

Yeah, you can choose your song using the physical click wheel by feeling around in your pocket.

...

Oh wait, no you can't.

And when you're in the dark, the backlight comes on. Actually, I think it'd be easier to use a backlit touch screen in the dark than a click wheel.

But thinking about it, I do frequently feel around my pocket to hit the play/pause button. Maybe they can add a physical button next to the hold/lock switch for play/pause? Special button that doesn't even bother turning on the backlight and wasting battery power... yeah!

[trip1ex]

I don't see why they won't make the Nano a touchscreen.

[brendanspah764]

Yeah, you can choose your song using the physical click wheel by feeling around in your pocket.

...

Oh wait, no you can't.

And when you're in the dark, the backlight comes on. Actually, I think it'd be easier to use a backlit touch screen in the dark than a click wheel.

But thinking about it, I do frequently feel around my pocket to hit the play/pause button. Maybe they can add a physical button next to the hold/lock switch for play/pause? Special button that doesn't even bother turning on the backlight and wasting battery power... yeah!

What about a backlit click-wheel? I am not sure how that would do, but it would solve that problem. I think we should NOT have a "iPod nano touch" because the clickwheel is meant for the iPods, and I think it will be staying for just a little bit longer.

[AppleNewton]

to me it may seem they can condense the OS and all the functionality to a simple ipod os for the audio and video and whatever else is currently on the ipodnanos.

they dont have to cram the entire functionality/feautres (apps, wifi etc) into it and make it just as interactive with a "coverflow layout/OS" for the users music and video simplifying it that way and being innovative for using other features that may require input or misc functionality.


theyve definitely opened up an interesting door to new technology and innovations in the ipod line, though i dont think id ever need/want an iPOd nano but it may be very interesting to see what they may come up with

[mitch88ell]

I don't like it at all, bad design. If this is true, what was Apple thinking. :(

[Clayne]

I don't like it at all, bad design. If this is true, what was Apple thinking. :(

It isn't their design. We don't know what it'll look like. Just details, if this is true.

[iParis]

Here are a couple things I FOUND off of google.

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/3/20/f_iPodntouch1m_b0b01b1.png

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2055/2226999870_1fe69635cf.jpg?v=0