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phreakout13
Jan 6, 2004, 04:17 PM
Hi All!
I'm learning HTML from www.draac.com (this is an awesome site!) and I would really enjoy tips for a beginner if anyone has some. Thanksdraac.com (


http://www.draac.com)

mnkeybsness
Jan 6, 2004, 06:16 PM
also look here (http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/) for help. you may have a different learning style than i do, but i've learned the majority of html by finding some simple, valid (http://validatory.w3.org) html pages.

always make sure you are learning correct html and not someone's screw ups.

mms
Jan 9, 2004, 10:42 PM
http://www.w3schools.com/ is also a good place to learn. Like mnkeybsness said, make sure you're learning correct html. Looking at other pages are fine but I'd bet there is more non-standards compliant html out there.

If you're making a web site for people to visit, test it on as many different browsers and platforms as possible. Different browsers interpret html differently. Even if it looks good on one browser, it could look very bad in others.

Once you've learned html, I suggest learning JavaScript and CSS to enhance your pages.

Rower_CPU
Jan 9, 2004, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by mms
http://www.w3schools.com/ is also a good place to learn. Like mnkeybsness said, make sure you're learning correct html. Looking at other pages are fine but I'd bet there is more non-standards compliant html out there.

If you're making a web site for people to visit, test it on as many different browsers and platforms as possible. Different browsers interpret html differently. Even if it looks good on one browser, it could look very bad in others.

Once you've learned html, I suggest learning JavaScript and CSS to enhance your pages.

The sad thing is, well over 90% of pages are not standards compliant. Even sites that try very hard sometimes fail compliance checks due to things like embedded media and advertiser code they have no control over.

I say this not to discourage people, but to make them aware of how widespread non-compliance is. Be vigilant in your web design!

Also, if a page is coded validly, standards compliant browsers should interpret it more or less the same. Every browser has its quirks, but valid code should display approximately the same - just watch out for older browsers (especially v4 ones) that don't handle CSS very well at all.

mms
Jan 9, 2004, 10:53 PM
When I was talking about how browsers handle code differently, I was mainly referring to Internet Explorer and how it is non-standards compliant. That becomes a problem because Internet Explorer is the most widely used browser.

If you have any doubts about your code, validate it. http://validator.w3.org/ has a good one.

mnkeybsness
Jan 10, 2004, 01:32 AM
Rower you seriously rubbed off on me with your constant nagging of having valid pages.

not that that's a bad thing. i'm actually happy to know that i do my best to write everything to comply with standards... i want my visitors to have the best experience possible.

Rower_CPU
Jan 10, 2004, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by mnkeybsness
Rower you seriously rubbed off on me with your constant nagging of having valid pages.

not that that's a bad thing. i'm actually happy to know that i do my best to write everything to comply with standards... i want my visitors to have the best experience possible.

Heh, well that's my goal: coersi...um...convincing developers to make valid pages.

I'm glad you've enjoyed the process. :)

Plus, I get to practice my own skills and test my knowledge when I try to help people, so it's good for me, too. ;)