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applekid
Jan 7, 2004, 04:10 PM
Anybody have a complete list on what kind of software instruments and loops we should expecting from GarageBand? I'm excited just thinking about it!

Thanks.



couch potato
Jan 7, 2004, 04:28 PM
i also am very excited about it. i know that apple is including some loops from soundtrack, although its hard to tell which ones. subsets of drums, guitars, violin,cello, etc... just about every basic instrument, plus some others.

but there is no official list

ChrisH3677
Jan 7, 2004, 05:06 PM
you guys!! stop reminding me!! this is going to be the second longest two weeks of my life waiting for my iLife 04.

:D

(The longest was waiting for my first Mac last year)

ExoticFish
Jan 7, 2004, 06:22 PM
you better believe i ordered iLife '04 as soon as i saw the keynote. i've been looking for something exactly like GarageBand for a while now. something UNDER $250 that has that kind of functionality. so what does Apple do? release just what i'm looking for with a bunch of other updated apps that i love for $35 after shipping education price? man Apple rocks.

steeleclipse
Jan 7, 2004, 11:06 PM
i cant believe what a stir this iApp has caused in the Mac world. Me? I am counting down the days :)

warcraftmaster
Jan 7, 2004, 11:22 PM
i can get so many people to mac with this program:) :) :)

~Shard~
Jan 7, 2004, 11:29 PM
Just wanted to add in my $0.02 about GarageBand as well - can't wait for it! In my opinion, it's worth $49 on its own, let alone bundled with the other updated iLife apps! Who knows, I might even splurge and pick up the "expansion pack" for it as well! :cool:

ChrisH3677
Jan 7, 2004, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by warcraftmaster
i can get so many people to mac with this program:) :) :)

ain't that the truth!! :D

And it has the COOLEST name! :D

(eg if it was called iMusic or iBand you wouldn't get so many converts)

Kingsnapped
Jan 7, 2004, 11:53 PM
Think ExoticFish is my clone or something.

My comment was going to read exactly like his.. and my setup looks to be exactly the same. Freaky shtuff.

If you didn't read his, I was kinda tempted to shell out for soundtrack after playing with it at an apple store. Thankfully, I was a bit short on funds at the time. Another disguised little blessing came when I killed my crummy GE speakers. I'm glad I got some nice speakers this time. Now all I need are some nice headphones for the wee hours.

maradong
Jan 8, 2004, 12:54 AM
Hm,...
I ordered it too,
but guess what - it will only be available in europe at the end of febuary, as a salesman told me.
hm.

jvaska
Jan 8, 2004, 08:25 AM
no hesitation on my part...

the day it comes out i'll be at the shop to purchase iLife and the extra instruments cd...

no blinking...v

edit: ugh, y'all will have it before as i'm in belgium...lordy!

Stike
Jan 8, 2004, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by maradong
Hm,...
I ordered it too,
but guess what - it will only be available in europe at the end of febuary, as a salesman told me.
hm.
I dont think so, maradong. I am in Germany and I ordered it in the Apple store. My expected shipping is "2 - 3 weeks"... I hope they are right! :)

ExoticFish
Jan 8, 2004, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Kingsnapped
Think ExoticFish is my clone or something.

My comment was going to read exactly like his.. and my setup looks to be exactly the same. Freaky shtuff.

If you didn't read his, I was kinda tempted to shell out for soundtrack after playing with it at an apple store. Thankfully, I was a bit short on funds at the time. Another disguised little blessing came when I killed my crummy GE speakers. I'm glad I got some nice speakers this time. Now all I need are some nice headphones for the wee hours.

so YOU'RE my long lost clone?? cool, i was always wondering where he went off to. yeah i love soundtrack and was all ready to shell out the coin for it when i get my tax refund but now it's looking like i may be $300 richer come tax season. :)

ChrisH3677
Jan 8, 2004, 09:23 PM
I watched the keynote last night. After seeing what GarageBand there and what John and Steve did with it, it confirmed what I already thought. Of all the iLife and other iApps, it will stand head and shoulders above the others for quality, quantity and value.

After watching the keynote, I'd reckon I'd crawl over broken glass to get GarageBand - and even then be prepared to pay $100 for it alone!

This thing is gunna sell Macs! Even more so than iMovie does (I bought a Mac to get iMovie but woulda bought one sooner if they had GB back then)


PS Steve's mix amused me - showed how easy it is but also showed it helps to have an ear for music and some creativity to get the most out of GB. His mix was pretty ho-hum.

Squire
Jan 8, 2004, 10:46 PM
I think everyone here is on the same page. I was almost ready to fork over the cash for Soundtrack, too. In fact, if it weren't for my wife, Logic 6 Platinum might have been in my sights. Ideally, though, I wanted something under $250 that would have loops, lots of instruments, and the ability to record. Being fairly idiot-proof would have been a huge bonus. GarageBand...is...it.

Heck, I might even pick up an electric guitar some time in the future. My buddy has this thing called "Guitar Port" that is pretty neat. It has different amps and lets you jam along with other guitarists via PC. It's a hardware/software combo (around $200, I think) but it also has a low monthly fee. GarageBand would give you a similar experience for a fraction of the cost.

I also like the name.

Squire

P.S. By the way, can you export tracks from GarageBand to Logic?

~Shard~
Jan 8, 2004, 10:52 PM
My apologies if it has already been discussed in this forum, but I didn't feel like reading through ALL the posts. ;)

My question is, I assume you cannot do multi-track recording with GarageBand, i.e. record a live guitar AND live vocals? Only 1 input, is this correct?

Regardless, GarageBand it awesome - can't wait to get my hands on it. :cool:

Squire
Jan 9, 2004, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by ~Shard~
My apologies if it has already been discussed in this forum, but I didn't feel like reading through ALL the posts. ;)

My question is, I assume you cannot do multi-track recording with GarageBand, i.e. record a live guitar AND live vocals? Only 1 input, is this correct?

Regardless, GarageBand it awesome - can't wait to get my hands on it. :cool:

No, you CAN as I understand it anyway, ~Shard~.

From Apple's page (on the Record page, left side under Get Real):

You can connect microphones or instruments to your Mac and record the various parts of your composition on different tracks. You can even try using your Mac¡¯s built-in mic. Once you let GarageBand know what you¡¯re recording, you¡¯ll feel the presence of a personal recording engineer.

Squire

<Edit: After re-reading your post, I figured out that you probably meant at the same time. Hence your use of the word "live", eh? Hmmm...don't know. Sorry.>

~Shard~
Jan 9, 2004, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by Squire
No, you CAN as I understand it anyway, ~Shard~.

From Apple's page (on the Record page, left side under Get Real):

You can connect microphones or instruments to your Mac and record the various parts of your composition on different tracks. You can even try using your Mac¡¯s built-in mic. Once you let GarageBand know what you¡¯re recording, you¡¯ll feel the presence of a personal recording engineer.

Squire

<Edit: After re-reading your post, I figured out that you probably meant at the same time. Hence your use of the word "live", eh? Hmmm...don't know. Sorry.>

Yes, I was referring to simultaneously, but thanks for you help regardless. :)

ChrisH3677
Jan 9, 2004, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by ~Shard~
My question is, I assume you cannot do multi-track recording with GarageBand, i.e. record a live guitar AND live vocals? Only 1 input, is this correct?


Looking at Squire's quote from the GB page, "...You can connect microphones or instruments to your Mac and record the various parts of your composition on different tracks. You can even try using your Mac’s built-in mic..."

It's ambiguous coz it still doesn't say "at the same time"...

Of course, logic says that to record simultaneous audio multitrack would require multiple audio inputs... My PB only has one audio in. and I think most macs only have one.

But on the other hand, I imagine there's usb or firewire devices that do multiple audio lines in, each able to go to their own track... there's things like that on the accessories page.

The example scenarios they give, each are about individuals (Beth, Daniel, Kathy) and in each case they lay down one audio track at a time.

It will be interesting to see...

The first person to get their mitts on GB so has to get some screenshots up - if they can drag themselves away from it! :D

ChrisH3677
Jan 9, 2004, 05:29 PM
Hey? I just found out GB needs a DVD (to install) & 256Mb. :( It will mean minimum eMac is underspecced for the s/w that will come on it.

Hope you guys all have the necessary spec.

~Shard~
Jan 10, 2004, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by ChrisH3677

It will be interesting to see...

The first person to get their mitts on GB so has to get some screenshots up - if they can drag themselves away from it! :D

I'll be one of the many people who will be getting their hands on a copy as soon as humanly possible, so if I can post some screengrabs, I definitely will! :cool:

Photorun
Jan 10, 2004, 12:25 PM
It indeed can record two tracks, Apple is such geniuses they bent over backwards to make sure Garageband works with low end (but perfectly decent) recording hardware like the Mbox by Digidesign, which has two tracks in. So Apple had to have worked with existing software to write it's ability to see such things, I mean, it makes-a me grin to think the actual effort and thought Apple put in on this one! You know, just like Microsoft would do [COUGH COUGH!]

~Shard~
Jan 10, 2004, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Photorun
It indeed can record two tracks, Apple is such geniuses they bent over backwards to make sure Garageband works with low end (but perfectly decent) recording hardware like the Mbox by Digidesign, which has two tracks in. So Apple had to have worked with existing software to write it's ability to see such things, I mean, it makes-a me grin to think the actual effort and thought Apple put in on this one! You know, just like Microsoft would do [COUGH COUGH!]

If this is indeed correct, that's AWESOME! Now I can't wait even more for my new GarageBand! :cool:

Thanks for the post. Can anyone else verify/contradict this? Just curious...

neut
Jan 10, 2004, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by ~Shard~
Thanks for the post. Can anyone else verify/contradict this? Just curious...

digidesign hardware only works with digidesign software... :(


peace.

Squire
Jan 10, 2004, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by ~Shard~
If this is indeed correct, that's AWESOME! Now I can't wait even more for my new GarageBand! :cool:

Thanks for the post. Can anyone else verify/contradict this? Just curious...

That is definitely cool. I can't wait to get my mitts on that app. Just out of curiosity, I wonder if Arn is going to make a new GarageBand-themed website?

Squire

P.S. Happy b-day, ~Shard~.

~Shard~
Jan 10, 2004, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by Squire

P.S. Happy b-day, ~Shard~.

Thanks for noticing! :)

elgruga
Jan 10, 2004, 06:30 PM
I think it will do 2 tracks with some extra hardware - ie via some MIDI input device.

If its in through the input on the computer, then its one stereo track.

I dont need that multi simul-recording thing because I cant play the rhythm, sing the melody and keep time all at once.....

Apple are going to sell a ton of this app!
One is marked 'El Gruga' already!

This is going to be a long six days; I'm actually using 'Audacity' more because I'm so enthused about GarageBand!
I dont even like Audacity that much.....

elgruga
Jan 10, 2004, 06:31 PM
Oh Well - HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO SHARD!

From wet Vancouver to (no doubt) frozen Regina.

~Shard~
Jan 10, 2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by elgruga
Oh Well - HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO SHARD!

From wet Vancouver to (no doubt) frozen Regina.

Actually it's only -8 Celsius today, so not too bad. But nothing like Vancouver, lucky bastard... ;)

Squire
Jan 10, 2004, 07:36 PM
Well, it looks like all the GarageBand topics are in one forum now. Cool. (By the way, do you guys know what the weather's like out East? Probably a bit colder than the West, eh?)

Squire

WinterMute
Jan 11, 2004, 06:15 AM
Originally posted by neut
digidesign hardware only works with digidesign software... :(


peace.

Not quite true, I use my M-box as a general interface, you need to get the Digi core audio update, which allows everything to work through the interface, I run Reason, Sountrack and Logic through mine, and we use the HD ProTools 192 interfaces for everything in the studios at the Uni.

I'm not sure the 2 track input is going to be so useful, I think its a mono or stereo situation, if you were to put two seperate feeds into the two different channels, then you'd end up with a single stereo track with one sound out the left and one out the right, and both controlled by the same track in GB.

edit: it appears that you can record TWO separate tracks via something like an M-box onto TWO independant mono tracks, very cool indeed.

GB won't allow genuine multi-input recording, its a very capable sketchpad, not a ProTools killer.

What did you expect for $49? I think it's going to be the mutts nutts anyway, bring it on....:D

TyWahn
Jan 11, 2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by ChrisH3677
\PS Steve's mix amused me - showed how easy it is but also showed it helps to have an ear for music and some creativity to get the most out of GB. His mix was pretty ho-hum.


Oh come on ... Steve's little mix, and his jovial attitude sold me on this purchase! I thought it was awesome!!

neut
Jan 11, 2004, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by WinterMute
Not quite true, I use my M-box as a general interface, you need to get the Digi core audio update

nice, thanks for the info. i know a few people with mboxes...i'll let 'em know. i use edirol myself...


peace.

br0wnbuffer
Jan 17, 2004, 03:45 AM
Just getting this thread back up to the top.

Has anyone out there compiled a list of all of the instruments in GB, and if you have it, Jam Pack? I'll probably get an idea when I head over to an Apple Store this weekend, but I think a lot of people would benefit from a long list. There are some particular instruments I hope are in GB - Hammond B3, Rhodes piano, Mini Moog.

So if anyone would be kind enough to pause their creative juices for a few minutes and compile a list, it would be much appreciated. Thanks!

~Shard~
Jan 17, 2004, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by br0wnbuffer
Just getting this thread back up to the top.

Has anyone out there compiled a list of all of the instruments in GB, and if you have it, Jam Pack? I'll probably get an idea when I head over to an Apple Store this weekend, but I think a lot of people would benefit from a long list. There are some particular instruments I hope are in GB - Hammond B3, Rhodes piano, Mini Moog.

So if anyone would be kind enough to pause their creative juices for a few minutes and compile a list, it would be much appreciated. Thanks!

I'll second that. I'll be buying GarageBand regardless, but I'd still like to know what all is included - same goes with the Jam Pack. I'lll probably be buying that one too, but I'd love to know in the meantime!

br0wnbuffer
Jan 17, 2004, 10:03 PM
I went to the Apple Store and compiled one list. I'm not sure if they used the Jam Pack. I should've asked. I'll put my list on the next post.

Here's one list, courtesy of "Wrong Robot" on the AppleInsider forums:

Bass
-Deep Round Synth bass
-Fingerstyle Electric
-Fretless electric
-Muted electric
-Slapped electric
-Sub Synth bass
-Tight Synth bass
-Upright Jazz

Drum Kits
-Dance
-Hip Hop
-Jazz
-Pop
-Rock
-Techno

Guitars
-Big electric Lead
-Classic acoustic
-Clean Electric
-Electric tremolo
-Steel String Acoustic

Horns
-Dub Horns
-Live pop horns
-Pop horn section

Mallets
-Aurora bell
-Church bell
-Music box

Organs
-Cathedral
-Classic rock
-Jazz
-Pop
-Smooth dance

Pianos and keyboards
-Electric
-Grand
-Clav
-Smokey
-Smooth
-Swirling Electric
-whirly

Strings
-hollywood
-Lunar
-Orchestral

Synth basics
-Circuit Dialog
-Constellation
-Martian lounge
-Modern Prophecy
-Planetarium
-Sequence element 1
-Sequence element 2
-Space Harpsichord
-Star sweeper

Synth Lead
-Arena run
-blip slide
-cheerful trance
-Future flute
-ominous dancefloor
-riffy fifths
-synchro nice

synth pads
-Angelic ocean
-aquatic sunbeam
-cloud break
-cosmic reflection
-falling star
-mercury wash
-silicon strings

woodwinds
-alto sax
-pop flute
-tenor sax

br0wnbuffer
Jan 17, 2004, 10:38 PM
I called the store to try to verify if Jam Pack was installed. The girl who answered didn't think it was. If you have GB installed, please verify my list.

Bass
- Ballad Electric
- Chan Saw
- Chirp Synth
- Deep & Hard
- Deep Round Synth
- Driving Synth
- 80's Pop Synth
- Electric Upright
- Filter Wah
- Fingerstyle
- Fretless Electric
- Fretless Solo
- Hammer Synth
- Muted Electric
- Nasty Synth
- Picked Electric
- Pulse Synth
- Slapped Electric
- Square Wave Synth
- Sub Synth
- Tight Synth
- Underground Synth
- Upright Ballad
- Upright Jazz

Choir
- Alien Tempo
- Basking Glow
- Mixed Choir
- Olympus Voice

Drum Kits
- Android
- Dance
- Electro
- Hip Hop
- Jazz
- Laser
- Pop
- RnB
- Rock
- Techno
- Telephone
- Tribal
- Twang

Guitars
- 12-string Acoustic
- 12-string Chords
- Auditorium Acoustic
- Ballad Acoustic
- Big Electric Lead
- Chorus Roundback
- Classical Acoustic
- Clean Electric
- Delicate Echoes
- Edgy Muted
- Electric Tremolo
- Funky Wah
- Muted Electric
- Roundback Acoustic
- Steel String Acoustic
- Textural Acoustic

Horns
- Dub Horns
- Funk Horn Section
- Live Funk Horns
- Live Pop Horns
- Pop Horn Section
- Radio Horns
- Synth Horns
- Wah Horns

Mallets
- Aurora Bell
- Caribbean Vibraphone
- Church Bell
- Music Box
- Rotary Vibraphone
- Solo Vibraphone
- Tremolophone
- Vibraphone/Bass
- Vibraphone

Organs
- Cathedral Organ
- Circus Organ
- Classic Rock Organ
- Gospel Organ
- Heavy Metal Organ
- Jazz Organ
- Lounge Organ
- Modulating Synth Organ
- Old Radio Organ
- Percussive Organ
- Pop Organ
- Rock Organ
- Smooth Dance Organ
- Soul Organ
- Space Organ
- Sparkling Organ
- Toy Organ
- Vocoder Organ

Piano
- Ambient Synth
- Chorused Electric
- Classical
- Dark Clav
- Echo
- Electric
- Fuzz Clav
- Grand
- Live Classical
- Live Grand
- Moody Grand
- Phased Clav
- Piano and Bass
- Piano and Strings
- 70's Electric
- Smokey Clav
- Smooth Clav
- Swirling Electric
- Tremolo Whirly
- Whirly

Strings
- Bright Arco
- Hollywood
- Lunar
- Orchestral Arco
- Orchestral Strings
- Satellite Strings
- Solace Strings

Synth Basics
- Bubble Gum Brass
- Chime Synth
- Circuit Dialog
- Constellation
- Dramatic Moment
- Dreamy Bells
- Eighties Sci Fi
- Electron Collisions
- Escape Velocity
- Looking Glass
- Martian Lounge
- Modern Prophecy
- Neutrino Pulse
- Planetarium
- Space Harpsichord
- Star Sweeper
- Techno Chirper
- UFO Cycler

atodd
Jan 18, 2004, 12:05 AM
it would appear that the first list posted didn't have the Jam Pack, and the second did. There're just many more instruments in the second list, like 2x the amount or more.

argh, i knew it...like half of the instruments Steve demoed require the jam pack.

Squire
Jan 18, 2004, 12:10 AM
br0wnbuffer,

Thanks for the time and effort put into compiling that list. My personal favorite (based on the keynote demo) will probably be the classical guitar. It sounded amazing. I just hope the program runs well on my Mac.

Squire