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MacRumors
Aug 12, 2008, 02:12 AM
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Last week an analyst report (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/08/06/apple_poised_for_special_event_this_september.html) speculated that Apple would hold some sort of media event this September to refresh the iPod line as well as long awaited updates to both the MacBook and MacBook Pro lines.

While the report appeared to be mostly speculative, Apple has been predictably updating their iPods in September for the past couple of years. Combined with circulating rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/30/next-generation-ipod-nano-to-be-taller/) of iPod revisions and the end of the Back to School promo (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/03/apple-launches-back-to-school-promo-free-ipod-touch-with-mac-purchase/), it seems probable that late September will bring us new Apple products.

While rumors have primarily focused on new iPod nanos, we've heard whispers that an iPod Touch update is also likely in the same timeframe.

Given the likelihood of updates, readers should be cautious about buying a new Apple notebook or iPod at this time.


Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/08/12/september-event-to-introduce-ipod-updates-and-more/)



Tragedies
Aug 12, 2008, 02:15 AM
I'm looking forard to this years update =D

I bought an iPod touch only a few weeks back, but I got it for 300 bucks, new (16GB, so that's ok.

I still wonder, though, what Apple would change in the touch (probably basic things, such as re moving 8GB, making 16GB cheaper, changing the back to make it look similar to the iPhone 3G).

-mikey

Kobekes
Aug 12, 2008, 02:16 AM
late august, late september, in time for X-mas, Macworld, ...

wonderbread57
Aug 12, 2008, 02:21 AM
seems early to introduce a new touch. the touch has always been the step child of the iphone. pretty much apple trying to offer the iphone to customers without who don't want a phone contract. Only thing I see happening with the touch is maybe a 64G version and... plastic case? heh

Coldwater
Aug 12, 2008, 02:22 AM
late august, late september, in time for X-mas, Macworld, ...

So true. No matter what any rumor predicts, Apple will only release new products when they can be sure (or as sure as possible) that a big supply chain is in place. With people STILL waiting for iPhones and the MobleMe fiasco it would be wise for Apple to look like they are back on the ball.

Zieg3rman
Aug 12, 2008, 02:22 AM
Hopefully the touch gets an update...if not, I might have to spend my money on food an housing at college rather than on an ipod...:p

Shot22
Aug 12, 2008, 02:23 AM
seems early to introduce a new touch. the touch has always been the step child of the iphone. pretty much apple trying to offer the iphone to customers without who don't want a phone contract. Only thing I see happening with the touch is maybe a 64G version and... plastic case? heh

Why is that? The iPods get refreshed on a yearly basis and the iPhone itself got the 3G upgrade only a year after its initial release....

Anyways, I want some new news! We know all of this already....

iCantwait
Aug 12, 2008, 02:24 AM
Early September. Back to school will still be on but only valied for the OLD (current) iPod Line up - like last year

archi17
Aug 12, 2008, 02:24 AM
omg this is getting exciting! i wonder what they will all look like?? :D

atlimar
Aug 12, 2008, 02:34 AM
As many of you here, I've been waiting for an upgrade to the Macbook Pro line.

Apple. Let it be a great upgrade. Quad cores and the lots prefered, but if not.. then at least increase the specs considerably. Its about time the macbook pro catches up to the PC laptops in terms of specs .

Full of Win
Aug 12, 2008, 02:35 AM
T minus 40 days until letdown....

vancexxx
Aug 12, 2008, 02:35 AM
I believe the ipod line is pretty clear by now and i cant really find any useful things to add. They're prolly make an even larger-capacity ipod classic, a widescreen nano (maybe, although i like this one), shuffle maybe gets 4 gb and a click-wheel. As for the touch... i like it just the way it is... but they'll sure have the 64gb version. i have a Touch and i would sure hate it with a plastic back. after all, fingerprints get all over the screen, i wouldnt want them on the back also.
i only ask for one thing: put some volume controls (really tiny) on the side of the ipod touch. thats all.
as for the mac line, i'm reaaaally looking forward to see some improvements in performance and design :)

iTeen
Aug 12, 2008, 02:36 AM
Well, I better see some sort of iPod Touch update.

I have been holding out on buying one forever now just cause I want the updated version...

You have to admire my will power :D

Apple Ink
Aug 12, 2008, 02:43 AM
Well the iPod touch is bound to receive some sort of an update or at least a price drop with capacity upgrade because simply put.... the current versions/prices dont hold a candle!

FaasNat
Aug 12, 2008, 02:44 AM
Hmmm, still nothing to do with any AppleTV revs.... Oh well....

queshy
Aug 12, 2008, 02:44 AM
as long as the "quality" stays up where it is now, price cuts, larger capacities, and better battery life is great for all!

David G.
Aug 12, 2008, 02:51 AM
PowerBook G5?


Now for the more serious segment of this post. I think it would be excellent if they updated the MacBooks to one with an aluminum enclosure. I don't really care about the iPod touch line. I won't be buying another until 1. I lose mine, 2. I break mine, 3. They offer a 128 GB model for under 400 USD (ie a looooong time from now.)

Henri Gaudier
Aug 12, 2008, 02:53 AM
If you look at the buyer's guide, everything except the 4 month old iMac is ready for replacement. I've never seen so many "Buy only if you need it - Approaching the end of a cycle" advisory notices. :mad: A new ipod and perhaps laptop update isn't going to make the entire line look much better to me. We're pretty much in the doldrums at the moment.

Telp
Aug 12, 2008, 02:54 AM
Given the likelihood of updates, readers should be cautious about buying a new Apple notebook or iPod at this time.

Right that makes sense. Cause that back to school promo isn't going on now :p. But I agree, if something comes out before the end of the promo, the deal is only valid for the old versions, like when the new iPod nanos came out.

Doctor Q
Aug 12, 2008, 02:54 AM
Friday, September 26, morning Pacific time. That's my prediction.

Apple Ink
Aug 12, 2008, 02:56 AM
If you look at the buyer's guide, everything except the 4 month old iMac is ready for replacement. I've never seen so many "Buy only if you need it - Approaching the end of a cycle" advisory notices. :mad: A new ipod and perhaps laptop update isn't going to make the entire line look much better to me. We're pretty much in the doldrums at the moment.

Considering that Apple's been focusing on expanding its product line.... this was bound to happen! Good for us and Apple in many ways!

Bad as well since this means low support, delayed updates!

technocoy
Aug 12, 2008, 02:56 AM
16 GB? Wasn't it pretty shortly after the launch last year? I REALLY want apple to get the iPhone to at least 32 gigs.

I'm getting ready to buy a 3G anyway, but man I'd like to wait to see if they drop an update with the rest of the iPods.

EricNau
Aug 12, 2008, 03:01 AM
Friday, September 26, morning Pacific time. That's my prediction.
Friday? Interesting prediction. Mind me asking what lead you to this date?

SchneiderMan
Aug 12, 2008, 03:09 AM
old news..

damn my hp laptop just broke down today and its dead lol i really want to get a mbp already :D hp sent me a box to ship it back to them for repair.. :rolleyes:

only macs for now on

Chundles
Aug 12, 2008, 03:09 AM
16 GB? Wasn't it pretty shortly after the launch last year? I REALLY want apple to get the iPhone to at least 32 gigs.

I'm getting ready to buy a 3G anyway, but man I'd like to wait to see if they drop an update with the rest of the iPods.

It was actually quite some time after launch and if I remember correctly it was actually earlier this year (around February I believe) - same time the iPod touch went 32GB.

The iPhone has only one slot available for memory so to have a 32GB iPhone you must use one 32GB memory card (if they're available they're very expensive, remember they don't use the same stuff as in a thumb drive - it's a higher grade/different type of flash memory) so I would expect to see a 64GB iPod touch around the same time as a 32GB iPhone.

Boblister
Aug 12, 2008, 03:12 AM
Friday? Interesting prediction. Mind me asking what lead you to this date?

First date pulled out of the hat? ;)

Apple Ink
Aug 12, 2008, 03:15 AM
The trend has been..... Tuesdays announcements, Friday launches!
So Im guessing... 16th or 23rd!

fuzzielitlpanda
Aug 12, 2008, 03:16 AM
i don't care about new ipods. let's see some new laptops!

aphexii
Aug 12, 2008, 03:19 AM
fingers crossed!

Jake381
Aug 12, 2008, 03:20 AM
One thing I am supprised that has not been added to ipods is an am/fm receiver.

I would say that iPod Shuffle is most likely to change. Perhaps only in capacity, but it is an older technology in comparison to the others. That said, there is not a great deal to improve on it.

Doctor Q
Aug 12, 2008, 03:25 AM
Friday? Interesting prediction. Mind me asking what lead you to this date?They like Tuesday keynotes, but many press events have been Fridays. I get the feeling (without actually checking) that they often pick Fridays near the end of a month for these events, so even though the Back to School promo is over before Friday the 19th, I picked the following Friday.

Actually, I cheated a bit. I used my Magic 8 Ball to double-check my predictions.

Chundles
Aug 12, 2008, 03:27 AM
One thing I am supprised that has not been added to ipods is an am/fm receiver.

I would say that iPod Shuffle is most likely to change. Perhaps only in capacity, but it is an older technology in comparison to the others. That said, there is not a great deal to improve on it.

AM is not possible - they require large antennae to work. FM won't be put in either as it goes completely against the philosophy of the iPod, yes you can get the FM remote accessory for the classic and nano but it never has and never will be a built-in part of the iPod.

motulist
Aug 12, 2008, 03:31 AM
They like Tuesday keynotes, but many press events have been Fridays. I get the feeling (without actually checking) that they often pick Fridays near the end of a month for these events, so even though the Back to School promo is over before Friday the 19th, I picked the following Friday.

Actually, I cheated a bit. I used my Magic 8 Ball to double-check my predictions.


The trend has been..... Tuesdays announcements, Friday launches!
So Im guessing... 16th or 23rd!

I don't know, over the past couple of years Apple no longer is very regular about which days of the week they announce or launch new products (possibly aside from keynote speech events). iirc.

davethecrave
Aug 12, 2008, 03:36 AM
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I'm asking any of you true apple fans a question here. I'm waiting to buy a MBP and if there is any chance of it getting updated in September, I need to know if there is a trend or an exact date guesstimation orb when the new iPod and/or MB and MBP would be announced. I'm headed to college soon and want to get the best of the best and not get slammed with an old MBP right when the new one comes out. So is there a trend on a release date for this from past years?

EricNau
Aug 12, 2008, 03:40 AM
They like Tuesday keynotes, but many press events have been Fridays. I get the feeling (without actually checking) that they often pick Fridays near the end of a month for these events, so even though the Back to School promo is over before Friday the 19th, I picked the following Friday.

Actually, I cheated a bit. I used my Magic 8 Ball to double-check my predictions.
Using the links provided in the Buyer's Guide, it appears that Apple announced both the iPod classic and iPod Nano on Wednesday, Sept. 5, 2007, and the year before that in 2006 the two were updated on Tuesday, Sept. 12. The iPod touch was updated on Tuesday Feb. 5, 2008.

Also, the most recent MacBook updates (starting with the most recent) occurred on a Tuesday, Thursday, and Tuesday.

But Friday it is! :D

motulist
Aug 12, 2008, 03:46 AM
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I'm asking any of you true apple fans a question here. I'm waiting to buy a MBP and if there is any chance of it getting updated in September, I need to know if there is a trend or an exact date guesstimation orb when the new iPod and/or MB and MBP would be announced. I'm headed to college soon and want to get the best of the best and not get slammed with an old MBP right when the new one comes out. So is there a trend on a release date for this from past years?


http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Portable_Macs


EDIT:

Wow! I don't think I've ever seen the buyers guide showing almost every single Apple product all being due for a new release all at once like this! The only consumer products that aren't due for an imminent update are the ipod shuffle, the iphone, and the imac.

davethecrave
Aug 12, 2008, 03:47 AM
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thanks, guess I could have looked that up, but here I sit browsing on my first gen iPhone, dreaming about about a MBP that is just beyond my grasp... Someday it will be a reality... Someday...

fleshman03
Aug 12, 2008, 03:54 AM
seems early to introduce a new touch. the touch has always been the step child of the iphone.

As a touch owner, it's more like the wicked bastard child of the iPhone that begs to get some attention but is always just a mention as a last second thought.

Oh and probly a 64gb/black or what background and a wildcard.

Wildcard means GPS, Speakers or something else that is really cool.

davethecrave
Aug 12, 2008, 04:01 AM
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I say we start a pool on the announcement and release date for this stuff. I'm basing mine off the MBP and I'm saying an announcement on the 9th of sept. (Tuesday) and a release on the 12th (Friday)

iCantwait
Aug 12, 2008, 04:06 AM
2nd or 9th of september

Lewisham
Aug 12, 2008, 04:17 AM
Having waiting so long for an MBP cosmetic change (seriously, I bought my PB G4 4 years ago, and I get a machine that looks exactly the same? :mad: ), I'm really done with the "just around the corner" rumours.

I'll just get mine at tail-end of Back To School because I need it, and then watch on as everyone gets brand new MBPs that look super sexy :rolleyes:

If there was a cosmetic change to any of the notebooks, I'm pretty sure they'll hold them all the way to Macworld at this point. It's speed-bumps or nothing.

The Tall One
Aug 12, 2008, 04:19 AM
I'm cautious about buying any new Apple anything. Waiting for the G7s. :D

samiam762
Aug 12, 2008, 04:29 AM
How exactly will it work (i.e. how has it worked in the past?)
They announce that there'll be an event, then they have an event at which they announce what's coming out, and then the release?
In the past, how much time has there been between announcing the event and having it, and then until launch?
That is to say, could we be looking at a (theoretical) late august announcement of an event, early september event, and early-mid september launch?

Or am I completely grasping at straws here?

cthomet
Aug 12, 2008, 04:34 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

I'm asking any of you true apple fans a question here. I'm waiting to buy a MBP and if there is any chance of it getting updated in September, I need to know if there is a trend or an exact date guesstimation orb when the new iPod and/or MB and MBP would be announced. I'm headed to college soon and want to get the best of the best and not get slammed with an old MBP right when the new one comes out. So is there a trend on a release date for this from past years?

i am with you in terms of always wanting the newest everything, but its not like when an update happens your machine becomes a brick. its still a great machine. what in the update do you really want or need? is it worth waiting for?

i just ordered my macbook out of necessity and because there are often some kinks to be worked out of 1st generation products, even if it does only take a few weeks. i dont have the luxury of waiting those extra weeks unfortunately. oh well nehalem will change the game.

qwertylewhizz
Aug 12, 2008, 04:55 AM
Apple Expo Remix'08 : 17 - 20 sept 2008 in Paris
my guess as the timetable suggests new products :)

Master Debater
Aug 12, 2008, 05:02 AM
Well, I better see some sort of iPod Touch update.

I have been holding out on buying one forever now just cause I want the updated version...

You have to admire my will power :D

Same here! I've been holding out since the beginning of the year.

Gl4cier
Aug 12, 2008, 05:40 AM
Isn't it normally a major Macbook Pro redesign/ upgrade presentation will happen on MacWorld conference (every beginning of the year). I still remember the first transition to Intel + built in iSight + new name happens on MacWorld 2006, after that it's just minor upgrade.

Well maybe i'm wrong, i will keep my finger crossed since i also need something to replace my 1st gen MacBook Pro.

ezekielrage_99
Aug 12, 2008, 05:40 AM
One thing I am supprised that has not been added to ipods is an am/fm receiver.

I would say that iPod Shuffle is most likely to change. Perhaps only in capacity, but it is an older technology in comparison to the others. That said, there is not a great deal to improve on it.

I really don't understand why people want a radio in an iPod, the main reason why I got my iPod was so that I didn't have to listen to the stupid radio....

Snowcat001
Aug 12, 2008, 05:59 AM
How and when do they usually announce such an event??

maddogeco
Aug 12, 2008, 06:16 AM
im going to have a stab in the dark with a new feature... may some form of phone like function maybe a camera on the back dunno that's my guess

andreab35
Aug 12, 2008, 06:16 AM
This is pretty exciting!

Anyone predict a MBA refresh anytime?

jk000
Aug 12, 2008, 06:18 AM
ipod updates maybe. MacBook, Macbook Pro updates no way. Many students will be buying over the summer months and almost definietly the biggest month for buying laptops will be august. A refresh the month after veryonea bought their MacBooks spells disaster. Apple won't do this, the same thing was said last year and every apple store said the same thing to me.

bobbleheadbob
Aug 12, 2008, 06:29 AM
MacBookProAir anyone? Or maybe a MacBookAirPro? MacProAirBook? :cool:

Sweetbike40
Aug 12, 2008, 06:40 AM
I am more than happy with my setup right now. Still looking forward to anything Apple will update, just not as anxious as i have been in the past.

aafuss1
Aug 12, 2008, 06:45 AM
Bluetooth in iPod touch-but only for BT headphones. would not need a separate dock connector based adaptor.

aafuss1
Aug 12, 2008, 06:48 AM
I really don't understand why people want a radio in an iPod, the main reason why I got my iPod was so that I didn't have to listen to the stupid radio....


Me too don't want to see built-in radio-along with drag and drop for music because Sony,Creative,MS,etc do it-as these companies aren't tied to a single store, but how would Apple stop people from stripping DRM or sharing the songs.

zedsdead
Aug 12, 2008, 06:50 AM
I can't see Apple not releasing anything between July 11th and the end of September.

Not even last year, with the iPhone's native launch did it last. The iMac's/iLife/iWork came at the beginning of August.

I agree that the iPod's will be in September, but that doesn't mean Apple can't hold an event for the Mac Mini, Macbook, Macbook Pro, and Cinema Displays, all of which are due for case redesigns.

Even the Mac Pro is due for an update, but not at a media event since it would only be specs.

aafuss1
Aug 12, 2008, 06:52 AM
Mac mini may get a quiet refresh (GM45,802.11n), also updayed iMacs in the same month (to use a Centrino 2 class chipset-PM45).

twoodcc
Aug 12, 2008, 06:56 AM
i agree with this. if history repeats itself, Apple will release new ipods and macbooks. i look forward to it!

zedsdead
Aug 12, 2008, 06:58 AM
Mac mini may get a quiet refresh (GM45,802.11n), also updayed iMacs in the same month (to use a Centrino 2 class chipset-PM45).

The iMac's aren't getting upgrades anytime soon. They already use a "mock" Montevnia chipset and would see no gains at all if added to the iMac.

The Mac Mini on the other hand hasn't been updated in over a year, and is due for an entire redesign. There have been rumors about it for the past year.

mojohanna
Aug 12, 2008, 07:20 AM
Boy, that analyst really went out on a limb with that prediction:rolleyes:

Jmanmadness23
Aug 12, 2008, 07:34 AM
This is nothing new. Thay know thats what most of the audience wants to hear I can't wait until this actually happens.
I'm waiting to see the specs and the final design on the MBP.
A mem upgrade to the touch would be sweet, it would make it the best multimedia device on the market.

Shasterball
Aug 12, 2008, 07:41 AM
Ugh. I'm caught in the middle here. When are we going to see a MacBook Air with a removable battery?

motulist
Aug 12, 2008, 07:48 AM
When are we going to see a MacBook Air with a removable battery?

A reasonable bet would say that you'll see a MBA with removable battery at the same time you see an iPod with a removable battery. i.e. Never.

nickane
Aug 12, 2008, 08:08 AM
ipod updates maybe. MacBook, Macbook Pro updates no way. Many students will be buying over the summer months and almost definietly the biggest month for buying laptops will be august. A refresh the month after veryonea bought their MacBooks spells disaster. Apple won't do this, the same thing was said last year and every apple store said the same thing to me.

Sure, you're partly right. But it's not like it'll be too long after. It's usually october/november, depending on whether or not they do it at the same time. MBPs tend to come first. The Back-to-school promo does involve ppl getting a computer too, you know; and uni students favour laptops.

The article never explicitly says there's an event in mind, it's just an analyst echoing what most ppl suspect from years of watching the back-to-school promotion end and then new products coming out shortly thereafter. Every now and then, ppl are able to get newer computers towards the end of the promotion, albeit with outdated ipods (or perhaps vice versa), but invariably there's an ipod update and MB and MBP updates between the promotions end and Xmas otherwise holiday shoppers would be paying more for the same iterations of the same products as the back-to-school crowd 3 months previous.

Soxy
Aug 12, 2008, 08:23 AM
Sure, you're partly right. But it's not like it'll be too long after. It's usually october/november, depending on whether or not they do it at the same time. MBPs tend to come first. The Back-to-school promo does involve ppl getting a computer too, you know; and uni students favour laptops.

The article never explicitly says there's an event in mind, it's just an analyst echoing what most ppl suspect from years of watching the back-to-school promotion end and then new products coming out shortly thereafter. Every now and then, ppl are able to get newer computers towards the end of the promotion, albeit with outdated ipods (or perhaps vice versa), but invariably there's an ipod update and MB and MBP updates between the promotions end and Xmas otherwise holiday shoppers would be paying more for the same iterations of the same products as the back-to-school crowd 3 months previous.

Does the same ring true for iMac or is that not a hot backtoschool item?

SleepyHead157
Aug 12, 2008, 08:30 AM
i just bought a macbook pro for work, as much i would love to have waited, i got it for a really good price, better than me having to pay apple over $2,000. I don't really care for a new design change, I think the current ones are more than fast enough with.

SwiftLives
Aug 12, 2008, 08:40 AM
So...the iPod Classic....

160GB & 320GB?

"A server in your pocket!"

In all seriousness, capacity boost or price drop? I mean, a 320GB iPod is teetering on the edge of overkill.

born4sky
Aug 12, 2008, 08:42 AM
new iphone? :rolleyes: please :apple:

DaleMassey
Aug 12, 2008, 08:46 AM
I'm gonna guess an early September launch for:
- Redesigned MacBook's with an aluminium enclosure and Air style keyboard
- Redesigned MacBook Pro's with Air style keyboard
- Overhaul of MacMini, slimline design with a Time Machine form factor
- Redesigned iPod range to bring touch screens to the lower-end models, and matt-aluminium finished similar to the Mac line
Eg:
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2379/0812revisionah4.png

maccompaq
Aug 12, 2008, 08:51 AM
Simple solution, just buy the computer you need now, and when the refresh happens, buy it also. Problem solved. That is what I do. Then I have double the fun.

DaleMassey
Aug 12, 2008, 08:56 AM
Simple solution, just buy the computer you need now, and when the refresh happens, buy it also. Problem solved. That is what I do. Then I have double the fun.

Well the best solution would probably be to sell it on eBay just before the new products are announced.
My iPod classic's going on ebay for £110, when its likely the new model will be £150. I've "lost" £40, but thats not much considering im upgrading.
Similarly, my PowerBook G4 17" 1.67 is about to get listed on eBay for £550 - £600 when the new MacBook is likely to cost around £700, again £100 for an upgrade.

tom burns
Aug 12, 2008, 09:00 AM
I'm tired of seeing the iPhone dominating the front page of apple.com for 2 months now...

osxlynx
Aug 12, 2008, 09:04 AM
old news..

damn my hp laptop just broke down today and its dead lol i really want to get a mbp already :D hp sent me a box to ship it back to them for repair.. :rolleyes:

only macs for now on

AMEN!!! Too bad for me my dv2100 CTO broke down after a year later, which means no box for me. :mad:

BUT, I got it fixed though and I'm selling it. And am on my way to Apple street to buy a mac...well when they finally have the refresh.

paulshephard
Aug 12, 2008, 09:05 AM
I'm gonna guess an early September launch for:
- Redesigned MacBook's with an aluminium enclosure and Air style keyboard
- Redesigned MacBook Pro's with Air style keyboard
- Overhaul of MacMini, slimline design with a Time Machine form factor
- Redesigned iPod range to bring touch screens to the lower-end models, and matt-aluminium finished similar to the Mac line
Eg:
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2379/0812revisionah4.png

Those are actually some gorgeous designs.
I am sincerely hoping there is a hard drive based iPod Touch, or at the very least, a 64Gb iPod Touch for cheaper than the current 32Gb.

headfuzz
Aug 12, 2008, 09:05 AM
This is nothing new. Thay know thats what most of the audience wants to hear I can't wait until this actually happens.

Exactly, same rumours, different day. :rolleyes:

Wayfarer
Aug 12, 2008, 09:09 AM
I wish they'd go ahead and give us a release date already! Or at least some info...

I'm starting college next week and going to be needing a Macbook Pro. Can't afford to wait anymore, because all students from my uni require laptops. I don't want to be caught up in buyer's remorse if the new models roll out shortly after, and they are prettier and faster. :(

DaleMassey
Aug 12, 2008, 09:14 AM
Those are actually some gorgeous designs.
I am sincerely hoping there is a hard drive based iPod Touch, or at the very least, a 64Gb iPod Touch for cheaper than the current 32Gb.

Heh, thanks.
I think a hard-drive based touch would be ideal. It would essentially replace the iPod classic in the product line, which would be more AppStore revenue for Apple. It makes sense for them to do it.

.Chris
Aug 12, 2008, 09:29 AM
ipod updates maybe. MacBook, Macbook Pro updates no way. Many students will be buying over the summer months and almost definietly the biggest month for buying laptops will be august. A refresh the month after veryonea bought their MacBooks spells disaster. Apple won't do this, the same thing was said last year and every apple store said the same thing to me.

what they say and what is the facts are two diferent things. That was most likly a sales scam, to take your kind off of the new updates so you'll buy a new machine. Happens all the time in the world. get used to it. ;)

new iphone? :rolleyes: please :apple:

what the hell is up with people rolling their eyes for no reason?

I dobut apple will relase a new iphone so soon. Just get the current one and quit complaing. I also dobut they will do this while iphone nano, iphone shuffle etc deal. That rumor was created by some kid who thinks apple will repeet the ipod family name....

Whiternoise
Aug 12, 2008, 09:35 AM
Shot in the foot to my mind.

They've missed out on a massive chunk of the market - the "going to college/high school or college/university" group. They've all gone - by now - to buy themselves dell laptops and the like.

Not to say that Dell are a bad company, but Apple should really have taken this into account and released earlier to maximise their potential. Admittedly they've probably negated that with the back to school deal, but it pisses me off a bit that they do it with the old macs in the knowledge that you're getting an iPod to placate the annoyance of buying just before an update.

Nieval
Aug 12, 2008, 09:53 AM
This is what's going to happen: The Macbook Air gets a very respectable upgrade whereas the Macbook gets dropped for a 13" Macbook Pro.

diamond.g
Aug 12, 2008, 10:00 AM
The iMac's aren't getting upgrades anytime soon. They already use a "mock" Montevnia chipset and would see no gains at all if added to the iMac.

The Mac Mini on the other hand hasn't been updated in over a year, and is due for an entire redesign. There have been rumors about it for the past year.

Does the iMac use SODIMM or just regular DIMM? If it does use SODIMM then 1066Mhz memory would be an upgrade. If it uses regular DIMM than I am not sure why it is stuck with 800Mhz memory.

aaquib
Aug 12, 2008, 10:03 AM
Those are actually some gorgeous designs.
I am sincerely hoping there is a hard drive based iPod Touch, or at the very least, a 64Gb iPod Touch for cheaper than the current 32Gb.

64GB touch? Not likely as Apple didn't give the iPhone any storage boosts. Plus, isn't the 64GB SSD for the MBA $600? Don't see how they'd offer you an iPod touch for less than $500 when the drive alone to them is valued at $600.

hdsalinas
Aug 12, 2008, 10:11 AM
Bluetooth. Maybe they add it along with wireless headphones.

iMacmatician
Aug 12, 2008, 10:13 AM
Was anybody expecting otherwise? All the rumors pointed to September for iPod and Mac refreshes.

I think the event will be a combined Mac/iPod event, with a lot of products being updated at once.

I also think that the Mac will be the centerpiece of the event (with the redesigns), and the iPods will be on the side, relatively speaking.

iTunes 8 / iTunes X / Media Me may also be released at the event. As many are expecting a revamp or a redesign from iTunes 7, Apple may do exactly that, breaking from the 2001 layout of iTunes into something more suited for today's changing media landscape (Mac, iPod, iPhone, :apple: tv). This would also explain why Macs are refreshed at the same event as the iPods.

It's also possible that the Macs could be released the week before the iPod event, as what happened in 2006.

While rumors have primarily focused on new iPod nanos, we've heard whispers that an iPod Touch update is also likely in the same timeframe. An update? So it's not the significant upgrade (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/29/firmware-hints-at-new-ipod-touch/) previously rumored?

Apple Expo Remix'08 : 17 - 20 sept 2008 in Paris
my guess as the timetable suggests new products :)Apple isn't attending the Paris expo.

This is pretty exciting!

Anyone predict a MBA refresh anytime?Probably early next year, whenever Apple/Intel can put updated (1067 MHz FSB) CPUs in there. Apple may also be holding out for the 120 GB HD coming next year.

This is what's going to happen: The Macbook Air gets a very respectable upgrade whereas the Macbook gets dropped for a 13" Macbook Pro.Then I hope the MacBook Air gets a price drop, but I agree with you on this. I just don't think it'll happen this soon.

64GB touch? Not likely as Apple didn't give the iPhone any storage boosts. Plus, isn't the 64GB SSD for the MBA $600? Don't see how they'd offer you an iPod touch for less than $500 when the drive alone to them is valued at $600.The iPhone uses one flash chip while the iPod touch has two. So a 64 GB iPod touch is possible with a 32 GB iPhone.

And SSDs aren't the same as flash memory.

urbanskywalker
Aug 12, 2008, 10:18 AM
Another rehashed rumor based on a previously rehashed rumor.

JayMan8081
Aug 12, 2008, 10:19 AM
Yeah this isn't new information, its just another reminder for people to hold off on iPod or MacBook purchases until after September if they can. Apple is also counting on ppl taking advantage of the Back-to-School rebate to help clear out the current lappy's and iPods.

paulshephard
Aug 12, 2008, 10:29 AM
64GB touch? Not likely as Apple didn't give the iPhone any storage boosts. Plus, isn't the 64GB SSD for the MBA $600? Don't see how they'd offer you an iPod touch for less than $500 when the drive alone to them is valued at $600.

As mentioned earlier, flash isnt the same as SSD
Plus the fact that it isnt costing that much for Apple to get the memory, the only reason they can charge it is because if people are paying over £1000 for a laptop, then the £300 extra might not make that much difference to them. With the iPod Touch on the other hand, people are only paying £250 or so, therefore £300 would be a significant difference; Apple would lose sales of the higher model in compromise.

With regards to not upgrading the iPhone capacity, I think this is because many iPhone users aren't that likely to have vast amounts of music or video on their phone. Well, not that much to exceed the current maximum of 16Gb. People who have large music collections or want to carry around heaps of videos (such as myself) are more likely to have a seperate iPod.

JGowan
Aug 12, 2008, 11:33 AM
The touch has always been the step child of the iphone. pretty much apple trying to offer the iphone to customers without who don't want a phone contract.I disagree. At least with the "step child" comment, with its negative connotations.

Honestly, I think you're looking at it all completely backwards. It's an iPod. It's not a phone. Compare it to the iPod lineup and suddenly it's a positive, not a negative. Better yet, compare it it the Zune. Completely destroys it. I wonder when the Zune will be able to surf the web in coffee houses,... not anytime soon, that's for sure.

Comparing it to the next iPod down from it (the iPod Classic) and side from the Classic's massive 160GB hard drive, the Touch trounces the Classic on all fronts. And while not huge, the 32GB Touch is still twice the capacity of even the new iPhone 3G.

While you might point to the lack of mail, weather, maps, notes and stocks initially, a mere $20 puts them all on the device along with 2.0 software that packs in MS Exchange, new Calc, multiple calendars, contacts search, MobileMe support + the new Apps store that let the iPod Touch do pretty much whatever the original iPhone could, except take pictures (which honestly, I don't use for much except take people's pictures to go in the address book. crappy camera).

Sure, it looks a lot like the iPhone - and it does much of the same things now as the phone, but it's iPod.

The best damn iPod there is actually. And it's just about to get better.

bigworm0925
Aug 12, 2008, 11:42 AM
I will bet that Apple will be having a big announcement sometime soon. Best Buy is advertising $180 off a computer when you purchase it with iWork '09 and MobileMe. I have not seen iWork advertised anywhere. Also there are many references to a 17" iMac on Best Buy's info about this discount and the back to school promo. Could they be bringing back the 17" iMac to replace the mac mini? This shows the Best Buy ad: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat157400050010&type=category&h=387

madmaxmedia
Aug 12, 2008, 12:14 PM
I disagree. At least with the "step child" comment, with its negative connotations.

Honestly, I think you're looking at it all completely backwards. It's an iPod. It's not a phone. Compare it to the iPod lineup and suddenly it's a positive, not a negative. Better yet, compare it it the Zune. Completely destroys it. I wonder when the Zune will be able to surf the web in coffee houses,... not anytime soon, that's for sure.

Yeah, after all isn't the iPhone merely an iPod Touch with a cell phone glommed on to it, and with less memory? ;)

I think the iPod Touch is a great iPod, especially the 32GB. It's a bit pricey right now, but that's more storage capacity than the iPod 5G. Plus it has app store, better battery life, much bigger screen, Coverflow, etc...

They're both great devices, I chose a Touch because I have no desire to play $30 extra per month for a data plan.

ssingh257
Aug 12, 2008, 12:18 PM
alrught so sorry to sound like a newb or w.e but im about to be a first year college student and of course im going to get a mac, prolly the mbpro 15" but of course there are rumors of this new upgraded model coming out. this would be my first purchase of an apple computer, so would one suggest that i wait until september or wenever it comes out, a good month or so into the school year, or jsut go with the current model already out? thanks

iMacmatician
Aug 12, 2008, 02:08 PM
I will bet that Apple will be having a big announcement sometime soon. Best Buy is advertising $180 off a computer when you purchase it with iWork '09 and MobileMe. I have not seen iWork advertised anywhere. Also there are many references to a 17" iMac on Best Buy's info about this discount and the back to school promo. Could they be bringing back the 17" iMac to replace the mac mini? This shows the Best Buy ad: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat157400050010&type=category&h=387:eek:

Longtime Best Buy watchers: REAL or FAKE?

Apple does have a 17" iMac, it's just education only. It looks like it applies here.

branjosef
Aug 12, 2008, 03:19 PM
YEah YEah Yeah...can't wait

SinfonianShrek
Aug 12, 2008, 04:01 PM
If you look at the buyer's guide, everything except the 4 month old iMac is ready for replacement. I've never seen so many "Buy only if you need it - Approaching the end of a cycle" advisory notices. :mad: A new ipod and perhaps laptop update isn't going to make the entire line look much better to me. We're pretty much in the doldrums at the moment.

Oi! My thoughts exactly. Apple needs to do a major product line revamp. I'm not talking major redesigns or anything but some minor cosmetic and decent hardware updates would be greatly appreciated and would help me encourage family and friends to migrate to the "new" Apples from their old, decrepit Windows boxes.

But seriously, if they update the MacBook and drop the price a touch I'll be all over that like white on rice and a glass of milk on a paper plate in the hands of an albino during a snowstorm.

jouster
Aug 12, 2008, 04:30 PM
Shot in the foot to my mind.

They've missed out on a massive chunk of the market - the "going to college/high school or college/university" group. They've all gone - by now - to buy themselves dell laptops and the like.

I doubt that. I work on a large campus and from what I see the vast majority of students could care less about esoteric (in their opinion) spec upgrades. If a MacBook is good enough for you, then you're not caring about a bump, unless you hang out on Macrumors.

kabunaru
Aug 12, 2008, 04:33 PM
the Macbook gets dropped for a 13" Macbook Pro.
Or do you mean re-named to MacBook Pro? :p

rkdiddy
Aug 12, 2008, 06:51 PM
I believe the ipod line is pretty clear by now and i cant really find any useful things to add. They're prolly make an even larger-capacity ipod classic, a widescreen nano (maybe, although i like this one), shuffle maybe gets 4 gb and a click-wheel. As for the touch... i like it just the way it is... but they'll sure have the 64gb version. i have a Touch and i would sure hate it with a plastic back. after all, fingerprints get all over the screen, i wouldnt want them on the back also.
i only ask for one thing: put some volume controls (really tiny) on the side of the ipod touch. thats all.
as for the mac line, i'm reaaaally looking forward to see some improvements in performance and design :)

How about a AM/FM and/or XM radio?

Nieval
Aug 12, 2008, 08:19 PM
Or do you mean re-named to MacBook Pro? :p

Good point, makes it seem easier to do when you put it like that - just slap some aluminum on it and add some sort of graphics card - BOOM!

charlituna
Aug 13, 2008, 02:44 AM
I will bet that Apple will be having a big announcement sometime soon. Best Buy is advertising $180 off a computer when you purchase it with iWork '09 and MobileMe. I have not seen iWork advertised anywhere. Also there are many references to a 17" iMac on Best Buy's info about this discount and the back to school promo. Could they be bringing back the 17" iMac to replace the mac mini? This shows the Best Buy ad: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat157400050010&type=category&h=387

doubt it.

my guess is that those 2 aren't counted because apple isn't counting them in the student promo going on in the stores. this iwork/mobile me thing is likely an extension of the same promo.

i am laughing however because the coupon has a major typo, calling it iwork 09, and there's no such thing as 'mobile me software'. the box is just your activation key. the software is all stuff in the computer already

I did some looking however and the whole thing aint as great as it looks. unless I am reading the coupon wrong if a student walks into best buy buys a macbook black, iwork and mobile me right now, according to the website that's $1679.97-$180=1499.97 (+tax).

but if you go to an Apple store and use the in store student discount plus the current new user MM discount that's $1479 (+tax) AND the apple stores have the ipod rebate and a printer rebate. so basically you end up with those for the cost of the tax which in Cali would be another $33.

so for $1624 you walk out of Best Buy with a laptop, iwork and mobile me. or for $2033 you walk out of Apple with a laptop, iwork, mobile me, an 8gig ipod touch and a printer/scanner and then 1-2 weeks later you have a rebate check for $399 making your grand total $1634. for $10 more I'd rather have the ipod and the printer as well.

charlituna
Aug 13, 2008, 02:47 AM
I doubt that. I work on a large campus and from what I see the vast majority of students could care less about esoteric (in their opinion) spec upgrades. If a MacBook is good enough for you, then you're not caring about a bump, unless you hang out on Macrumors.

yep. these are not computers that will be obsolete in a year. aside from hardcore art types like film students that will want a pro with the best graphics etc, a macbook bought now will still hold up for 3-4 years, especially if you up the ram.

so any new computer would have to be major to make a student or mom and dad fell gypped.

charlituna
Aug 13, 2008, 02:48 AM
Heh, thanks.
I think a hard-drive based touch would be ideal. It would essentially replace the iPod classic in the product line, which would be more AppStore revenue for Apple. It makes sense for them to do it.


actually it doesn't make sense. the ipod is a carry around device and a hard drive has moving parts so if you drop it, there is more of a chance you'll kill it.

if anything they will move out of hard drives and into all flash as the prices come down.

Master Debater
Aug 13, 2008, 04:06 AM
... While you might point to the lack of mail, weather, maps, notes and stocks initially, a mere $20 puts them all on the device along with 2.0 software ...

$10.

nickane
Aug 13, 2008, 06:02 AM
Does the same ring true for iMac or is that not a hot backtoschool item?

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

See for yourself. My answer would be yes, but its not as popular with students so not as often. In fact, it often gets updated during the promotion, whereas the notebooks rarely do. Since the intel switch, iMac updates have become pretty infrequent (every 8-9 months or so), so its hard to say whether or not there'll be one before Xmas. I wouldn't have thought they would wait until January because that's when the mac pro will get Nehalem and the iMac can't get that until mid-2009 (just Xeons and desktop processors at first, I believe). The next release might depend on the timing of the mobile Core 2 Quad... :cool:

bigworm0925
Aug 13, 2008, 07:46 AM
doubt it.

my guess is that those 2 aren't counted because apple isn't counting them in the student promo going on in the stores. this iwork/mobile me thing is likely an extension of the same promo.

i am laughing however because the coupon has a major typo, calling it iwork 09, and there's no such thing as 'mobile me software'. the box is just your activation key. the software is all stuff in the computer already

I did some looking however and the whole thing aint as great as it looks. unless I am reading the coupon wrong if a student walks into best buy buys a macbook black, iwork and mobile me right now, according to the website that's $1679.97-$180=1499.97 (+tax).

but if you go to an Apple store and use the in store student discount plus the current new user MM discount that's $1479 (+tax) AND the apple stores have the ipod rebate and a printer rebate. so basically you end up with those for the cost of the tax which in Cali would be another $33.

so for $1624 you walk out of Best Buy with a laptop, iwork and mobile me. or for $2033 you walk out of Apple with a laptop, iwork, mobile me, an 8gig ipod touch and a printer/scanner and then 1-2 weeks later you have a rebate check for $399 making your grand total $1634. for $10 more I'd rather have the ipod and the printer as well.

My point was not the cost but rather the fact that the ad said iWork 09, something apple traditionally announces with their new computer line. If you look at the ad today you will see that they changed it to say iWork 08 with a totally different SKU. This was a huge blunder by Best Buy. Mark my words... sometime REAL soon apple will be making their announcement about updated computer line. Hopefully they add a dedicated graphics card to the MB and drop the price by $100.

Soxy
Aug 13, 2008, 08:20 AM
http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

See for yourself. My answer would be yes, but its not as popular with students so not as often. In fact, it often gets updated during the promotion, whereas the notebooks rarely do. Since the intel switch, iMac updates have become pretty infrequent (every 8-9 months or so), so its hard to say whether or not there'll be one before Xmas. I wouldn't have thought they would wait until January because that's when the mac pro will get Nehalem and the iMac can't get that until mid-2009 (just Xeons and desktop processors at first, I believe). The next release might depend on the timing of the mobile Core 2 Quad... :cool:

Is it possible that iMac's could be updated at this September event then? I'll admit I'm not on top of Apple stuff but if they wouldn't want to wait till January, this Paris thing is their last opportunity to announce it unless they do a ninja tuesday update?

Wouldn't that be too far below the average for them to be updated next month?

bpl323
Aug 13, 2008, 10:16 AM
32GB iPhone too?

iMacmatician
Aug 13, 2008, 02:24 PM
Is it possible that iMac's could be updated at this September event then? I'll admit I'm not on top of Apple stuff but if they wouldn't want to wait till January, this Paris thing is their last opportunity to announce it unless they do a ninja tuesday update?Probably not.

First it's too many products, many of them redesigns, to be released at once.

Next there's not much performance improvement that comes with Montevina, given that the existing iMacs have a FSB-bumped Santa Rosa. The most you could get that matters is quad-core processors (expensive).

Finally Apple might want to wait a little longer and do a more comprehensive update. Montevina will get a small speedbump early next year, which would help.

Wouldn't that be too far below the average for them to be updated next month?There's quite a bit of variation from the average.

32GB iPhone too?I don't think so. More like early next year.

cWags
Aug 15, 2008, 01:28 PM
What kind of a power boost can we expect for MBPs in September?

Also, are previous rumors of glass trackpads already defunct?

Rtb1
Aug 15, 2008, 02:31 PM
1. update will happen right after back to school promotion ends. (mid sept)

2. ipod touch may get a better battery and memory upgrade, but nothing else until the iPhone leads the way.

3. the ipod touch WILL NOT have the same plastic back as the 3G, they changed to plastic so that the antenna for the cellular network can have a larger reception area, wi-fi antenas do not need the increased surface area. They curved the back of the iphone b/c its nicer to hold up to your ear, the ipod is thinner and does not get held to your ear, hence the case will remain aluminium.

iMacmatician
Aug 15, 2008, 02:59 PM
What kind of a power boost can we expect for MBPs in September?CPU bump to 2.4/2.53 GHz or 2.53/2.8 GHz.
RAM bump to 800 MHz or 1067 MHz.
Possible HDD bump.
GPU bump to an NVIDIA 9xxx or ATI HD 3xxx.

Also, are previous rumors of glass trackpads already defunct?I don't think so. They're recent and from a reliable source, so I wouldn't count them out unless (and maybe even if) there's an upcoming rumor that says no glass trackpads.

SactoGuy18
Aug 16, 2008, 07:19 AM
I don't think we'll see a replacement for the current iPod nano, though.

For one reason: the device is just too small for a touchpad version. What I personally think may happen is we'll see a "3.5G" nano that looks externally exactly the same as the current model but will have internal circuitry changes. Apple will offer two versions, a 16 GB model (US$199) with up to ten different color cases, and a 32 GB model (US$249) with black and Product Red color cases.

nickane
Aug 18, 2008, 07:24 AM
Probably not.

First it's too many products, many of them redesigns, to be released at once.

Next there's not much performance improvement that comes with Montevina, given that the existing iMacs have a FSB-bumped Santa Rosa. The most you could get that matters is quad-core processors (expensive).

Finally Apple might want to wait a little longer and do a more comprehensive update. Montevina will get a small speedbump early next year, which would help.

There's quite a bit of variation from the average.

I don't think so. More like early next year.

Agree with you about everything here. Since that cryptic earnings call a few weeks ago, there's been a flurry of speculation about what's coming next and as is often the case with apple announcements, most people will end up being disappointed. When apple announced the iPhone at MWSF 07, they did so after 2-3 months of no mac or ipod updates (standard for the holiday season), and followed it with 3-4 months more of no mac or ipod updates. The keynote gave us more info about the already announced apple tv, and unleashed a phone, a widescreen video ipod and a breakthrough internet communications device. Unfortunately, the fact that all that represented only one device and was 6 months away, didn't stop apple neglecting all of their hardware and software lines to the extent that Leopard became heavily delayed. With an ambiguous product shift (or new product) on the horizon, the imminent notebook redesigns and little to offer the iMac at the moment, it'll probably get slept on until january.


As for the iPhone, it seems likely that we will enter an upgrade cycle of capacity bump in Jan, features bump mid-year. Fluctuating rates of flash price drops may cause that model to change eventually, but in the meantime what with the prevalence of 18 month contract, getting 2 capacity bumps and 1 features bump (or vice versa) at the end of every contract, seems like a good deal. I doubt any of the network carriers will let ppl upgrade before their contracts are up now that they're subsidizing the phones like any other; the shift from the revenue sharing model was probably just a one-off.

sellitman
Aug 18, 2008, 07:36 AM
I already bought my daughter a low end Mac Book and received the free iPod Touch. For a student it's all she could want and more. I won't feel cheated at all when the new ones arrive. Unless she was into graphic design the Mac Book will serve her well for 4 years or more.

Akzel
Aug 19, 2008, 12:33 AM
Agree with you about everything here. Since that cryptic earnings call a few weeks ago, there's been a flurry of speculation about what's coming next and as is often the case with apple announcements, most people will end up being disappointed. When apple announced the iPhone at MWSF 07, they did so after 2-3 months of no mac or ipod updates (standard for the holiday season), and followed it with 3-4 months more of no mac or ipod updates. The keynote gave us more info about the already announced apple tv, and unleashed a phone, a widescreen video ipod and a breakthrough internet communications device. Unfortunately, the fact that all that represented only one device and was 6 months away, didn't stop apple neglecting all of their hardware and software lines to the extent that Leopard became heavily delayed. With an ambiguous product shift (or new product) on the horizon, the imminent notebook redesigns and little to offer the iMac at the moment, it'll probably get slept on until january.


As for the iPhone, it seems likely that we will enter an upgrade cycle of capacity bump in Jan, features bump mid-year. Fluctuating rates of flash price drops may cause that model to change eventually, but in the meantime what with the prevalence of 18 month contract, getting 2 capacity bumps and 1 features bump (or vice versa) at the end of every contract, seems like a good deal. I doubt any of the network carriers will let ppl upgrade before their contracts are up now that they're subsidizing the phones like any other; the shift from the revenue sharing model was probably just a one-off.

Interesting post, I haven't thought of that.

Well, I've heard that we can expect a new Macbook in late September, but a new Macbook Pro only in January. Which is kinda disappointing to me, as I've been waiting for a new MBP for a while... But makes perfect sense with your post.

Being a little optimistic, should I hope for at least a small spec bump in MBP this September and a new design (ha!) and maybe Quad chips in early 2009?

Well, if they just added a discrete graphics card to the Macbook, I'd buy one in September and forget about the MBP for a while... :rolleyes: (Almost impossible to happen, I know...)

bpl323
Aug 19, 2008, 12:58 AM
Can I get a 32GB iPhone along with those updates?

cousinskeeter
Aug 19, 2008, 02:04 AM
If I had known it was going to take this long to update I would have bought my MPB when the back to school promo began. Now I'm in it for the long haul, hopefully they will be out by October.

.Chris
Aug 19, 2008, 02:07 AM
actually it doesn't make sense. the ipod is a carry around device and a hard drive has moving parts so if you drop it, there is more of a chance you'll kill it.

if anything they will move out of hard drives and into all flash as the prices come down.

thatr has nothing to do with a HD based touch

iMacmatician
Aug 19, 2008, 01:09 PM
Well, I've heard that we can expect a new Macbook in late September, but a new Macbook Pro only in January.Heard from where? All the rumors point to September for both notebooks.

Being a little optimistic, should I hope for at least a small spec bump in MBP this September and a new design (ha!) and maybe Quad chips in early 2009?I'd say optimists and realists can all hope for a redesign next month.

jonnyb
Aug 19, 2008, 01:16 PM
Heh, thanks.
I think a hard-drive based touch would be ideal. It would essentially replace the iPod classic in the product line, which would be more AppStore revenue for Apple. It makes sense for them to do it.

I don't think there's any chance of an HDD-based Touch. The hard disk is dead as far as iPod evolution is concerned. The Classic will stay while the Touch gradually increases in capacity. At the point where the Flash-based iPods reach 160GB, or thereabouts, the HDD iPods will cease to be, I think.

dalvin200
Aug 19, 2008, 01:21 PM
Can I get a 32GB iPhone along with those updates?

probably around xmas time...

maccompaq
Aug 19, 2008, 02:47 PM
Can I get a 32GB iPhone along with those updates?

You can have anything you want.

Dudeman486
Aug 19, 2008, 09:24 PM
I believe apple will only update the ipods with the september event. a poster mentioned that all the people who bought macbooks in anticipation for school would feel b*tch slapped by apple if they updated their laptops literally a week or two after school started.

besides, if apple focuses on just ipods for this update, they can leave macworld to announce updates for all the macs that need them (hello mac mini!). that would, IMO, leave a more cohesive feel with the updates, rather than scattering similar products between the two events.

i hope this comes true. i want a 64gb touch before '09

.Chris
Aug 19, 2008, 10:54 PM
I believe apple will only update the ipods with the september event. a poster mentioned that all the people who bought macbooks in anticipation for school would feel b*tch slapped by apple if they updated their laptops literally a week or two after school started.

Does apple care? No they dont. They only care in making money.

besides, if apple focuses on just ipods for this update, they can leave macworld to announce updates for all the macs that need them (hello mac mini!). that would, IMO, leave a more cohesive feel with the updates, rather than scattering similar products between the two events.

i hope this comes true. i want a 64gb touch before '09

erm no. Macworld will be for the major updates and product announcements. (mac nano, new iphone,mac tablet etc )We may see updates to the macs in time for christmias shopping season.

its not scattering kid, its called marketing..... get used to it

Dudeman486
Aug 20, 2008, 07:27 AM
Does apple care? No they dont. They only care in making money.

i disagree, at least this time around. remember the stunt apple pulled when they dropped the price of the original iphone 200$? they got SO much bad press. I'd be surprised if they tried to backstab their customers like that again.

erm no. Macworld will be for the major updates and product announcements. (mac nano, new iphone,mac tablet etc )We may see updates to the macs in time for christmias shopping season.

its not scattering kid, its called marketing..... get used to it

i disagree, at least this time around. remember the stunt apple pulled when they dropped the price of the original iphone 200$? they got SO much bad press. bad to the point that they almost immediately issued 100$ credits to all affected. I'd be surprised if they tried to backstab their customers like that again.

As for updates in time for christmas shopping, I think this is a valid point. to account for this, apple might do a speed bump, and wait for macworld to announce the major redesign. as you said, macworld is for the major revisions/new products.

collegebound
Aug 20, 2008, 09:05 AM
What if I purchase online a new macbook and touch on September 14, or whenever the last day of the back to school promo ends? Isn't there a 2 week return policy? I figure I can wait the 2 weeks to see if the new line is for sale yet and then return/exchange. The promo says all new Mac computers are eligible. It does list specific ipods so I probably couldn't exchange for the newer ipod. My son would much prefer a silver laptop over a white one...Luckily, we have plenty of PC's, so he can wait for his notebook.

Alternatively, if both the macbook and the touch had a price reduction, and were updated, that might be a wise choice to. That is, to wait and buy after the promo, but at lower prices.......

Advice?

charlituna
Aug 21, 2008, 08:26 AM
What if I purchase online a new macbook and touch on September 14, or whenever the last day of the back to school promo ends? Isn't there a 2 week return policy?



yeah. but do NOT open the box and I wouldn't do the rebate form right away.

opening the box even if you don't turn on the computer makes it 'used' and they will charge you a restocking fee. I remember them warning me about that when I bought my last ipod (and they said it was on all ipods and computers)

and I'll bet that if you return something with the student discount they will have a way to check if you sent in the rebate and if you did who knows what kind of a mess that will be (cause they don't want to give you credit for something you already got credit for).

as for a lower price. who knows. if it does happen within the 2 weeks and you go in and ask, they might return the computer and resell it to you at that price even with the discount.

bigworm0925
Aug 21, 2008, 09:06 AM
As I was sitting here at my summer internship pondering how boring my life is sitting behind this desk making more than twice the money of all my friends doing nothing, it hit me... Apple in cleaning out its inventory of touches and nanos through the back to school promotion. This means a definite revision for both products. If they were going to revise the classic wouldn't that too be included in the promotion?

charlituna
Aug 22, 2008, 08:40 AM
This means a definite revision for both products.

Nothing is definite with Apple until it is done. We'll see what happens in the next month or so. But it is possible that they aren't cleaning out anything, rather using the ipods to get all those college kids to want a Mac and not a PC

t0mat0
Aug 22, 2008, 09:47 AM
Nothing is definite with Apple until it is done. We'll see what happens in the next month or so. But it is possible that they aren't cleaning out anything, rather using the ipods to get all those college kids to want a Mac and not a PC

Have you seen the Buyer's Guide for the nano?

9/2007
9/2006
2/2006 bump to 1GB
9/2005.

They're doing both. Heck, aren't they showing up as discontinued in stores as per page 1/2..

Josso
Aug 24, 2008, 07:00 AM
Looking forward to it. :)

SchneiderMan
Aug 24, 2008, 02:53 PM
this is for september, hints on new macbooks

.Chris
Aug 24, 2008, 02:59 PM
this is for september, hints on new macbooks

where did you get that pic?

SchneiderMan
Aug 24, 2008, 03:03 PM
where did you get that pic?

some site saying its a teaser banner for the september event..

.Chris
Aug 24, 2008, 03:10 PM
some site saying its a teaser banner for the september event..

link?

sn00pie
Aug 24, 2008, 03:14 PM
Buy from Best Buy, no restocking fee. :p

.Chris
Aug 24, 2008, 03:29 PM
Buy from Best Buy, no restocking fee. :p

or costco and get it for 10 bucks cheeper...

SchneiderMan
Aug 24, 2008, 03:37 PM
Buy from Best Buy, no restocking fee. :p

they do have a restocking fee unless it has a defect.. ive got 2 laptops from bestbuy and i know

and .chris i dont have a link, i dont remember now

Clayne
Aug 24, 2008, 05:52 PM
they do have a restocking fee unless it has a defect.. ive got 2 laptops from bestbuy and i know

and .chris i dont have a link, i dont remember now

dang, I wanna see where that came from.

.Chris
Aug 24, 2008, 06:49 PM
dang, I wanna see where that came from.

looks fake/adverage joe created it. If it was infact apple it would be more glosser more drop shadows and there would be a glow behind the apple logo like the January 2007 teaser.

viccles
Aug 24, 2008, 09:51 PM
this is for september, hints on new macbooks

Lighter sounds good to me! *gets cards ready*

maccompaq
Aug 25, 2008, 05:20 PM
New Mac Books in September will help the profits for the quarter. Hopefully that will bump the stock up.

danbob
Aug 25, 2008, 07:01 PM
yeah. but do NOT open the box and I wouldn't do the rebate form right away.

opening the box even if you don't turn on the computer makes it 'used' and they will charge you a restocking fee. I remember them warning me about that when I bought my last ipod (and they said it was on all ipods and computers)

and I'll bet that if you return something with the student discount they will have a way to check if you sent in the rebate and if you did who knows what kind of a mess that will be (cause they don't want to give you credit for something you already got credit for).

as for a lower price. who knows. if it does happen within the 2 weeks and you go in and ask, they might return the computer and resell it to you at that price even with the discount.

Okay, so here's my experience with the Back to School Promotion and the release of a new version shortly thereafter.

I bought a Macbook under the Back to School promotion in March this year (keeping in mind i'm in New Zealand) from the online Apple Store, and I also picked up the new 32Gb iPod Touch as well under the promotion (which wasn't around when the offer began, but was still eligible under the scheme). Literally a week after recieving it, with only a hint in rumor posts the day before, Apple release a new updated version of the Macbook with some pretty nice upgrades at a cheaper price point. Needless to say I was less than happy, so I rang up apple and told them so - I had literally just mentioned "I recieved a new Macbook a week ago and I see you're released an update - I'm not happy about that" before the guy buts in and says they can give me money to make the Macbook I have "price comparable", or they can exchange it for a new one. Needless to say, given some of the new upgrades were things I was planning to do to the Macbook I had anyway, I chose to get the new one.

I'd already opened it and been using it, but that wasn't an issue - they said I just had to put everything back in the box, tape it up and await for the courier they were organising to pick it up. No re-stocking fees, no nothing - I hadn't sent in the Back to School promotion rebate yet, but if I had've it didn't sound like that would have been a problem. So I ended up with a newer model Macbook, still eligible for the Back to School promo and Apple also refunded me the $100 difference between the two Macbooks. Needless to say, I came away very pleased and happy with Apple.

maccompaq
Aug 25, 2008, 07:11 PM
Danbob, that is what we like to read about. Another happy Apple customer.

iMacmatician
Aug 25, 2008, 07:46 PM
this is for september, hints on new macbooksSource please.

I am beginning to have doubts that Apple will refresh the notebooks at the iPod event because we haven't heard any rumors of them with the iPod rumors.

CWallace
Aug 25, 2008, 09:15 PM
I am beginning to have doubts that Apple will refresh the notebooks at the iPod event because we haven't heard any rumors of them with the iPod rumors.

It would be nice if they did, but the folks who have posted the last few years of September events have confirmed that it's always just iTunes and iPods. So it is likely this one will be iTunes 8, the iPod Touch with GPS and the new iPod Nano form factor.

New MacBooks and MacBook Pros might need to wait until at least October.

macwall
Aug 26, 2008, 01:00 AM
What if I purchase online a new macbook and touch on September 14, or whenever the last day of the back to school promo ends? Isn't there a 2 week return policy? I figure I can wait the 2 weeks to see if the new line is for sale yet and then return/exchange. The promo says all new Mac computers are eligible. It does list specific ipods so I probably couldn't exchange for the newer ipod. My son would much prefer a silver laptop over a white one...Luckily, we have plenty of PC's, so he can wait for his notebook.

Alternatively, if both the macbook and the touch had a price reduction, and were updated, that might be a wise choice to. That is, to wait and buy after the promo, but at lower prices.......

Advice?


you'll be charged with a restock fee

macwall
Aug 26, 2008, 01:02 AM
It would be nice if they did, but the folks who have posted the last few years of September events have confirmed that it's always just iTunes and iPods. So it is likely this one will be iTunes 8, the iPod Touch with GPS and the new iPod Nano form factor.

New MacBooks and MacBook Pros might need to wait until at least October.

ipods for september and comps for october

SchneiderMan
Aug 26, 2008, 01:04 AM
how can it be new ipods if apple is saying the nano is still new lol??
thats from today