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arn
May 22, 2002, 10:39 PM
Apple Russia appears to be offering (http://www.apple.ru/promo/old2new/) a promo for trade in of your old Macintosh.

Per a Macintouch reader (http://www.macintouch.com):

Word is starting to circulate in Europe about an Apple buy-back promotion. Apple will take old computers and offer from [US$185 to US$370] off a new G4. The Apple Russia site already shows this, but none of the other European sites do yet. It should not be long.

Beej
May 22, 2002, 10:44 PM
I wonder if I can trade in more than one old Mac? He he... they'd be paying me to take away new G4s! :D

Rower_CPU
May 22, 2002, 10:47 PM
Interesting...

It's cool that Apple is trying to help people get newer systems that will run OS X. $375 isn't alot towards a $1600+ machine, but it's better than a kick in the pants.;)

jaykk
May 22, 2002, 10:52 PM
What if apple gives wintel users give a chance to trade-in their pcs for a brand new Mac? just a thought..

strider42
May 22, 2002, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
$375 isn't alot towards a $1600+ machine, but it's better than a kick in the pants.;)

thats almost 25% off on the low end of things. Thats pretty substantial, espcially when on consider apple's margins are something like 30%

pimentoLoaf
May 22, 2002, 11:11 PM
This might be a good reason to install the new PRAM battery in my antique 6100/66...

eyelikeart
May 22, 2002, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by pimentoLoaf
This might be a good reason to install the new PRAM battery in my antique 6100/66...

ha ha ha... :D

I'd say so...but I wonder what their angle is with this?

Rower_CPU
May 22, 2002, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by strider42
thats almost 25% off on the low end of things. Thats pretty substantial, espcially when on consider apple's margins are something like 30%

Anyone read Russian?

• $180 ΡΕΡΗΡy ΡΕΡΔΡ{ΡΦΡΕΡ{Ρu Power Mac G4/800 (M8705LL/A)
• $265 ΡΕΡΗΡy ΡΕΡΔΡ{ΡΦΡΕΡ{Ρu Power Mac G4/933 (M8666LL/A)
• $355 ΡΕΡΗΡy ΡΕΡΔΡ{ΡΦΡΕΡ{Ρu Power Mac G4/1G/DP (M8667LL/A)

Looks like $180 towards a $1600 machine, $265 towards a $2300 machine and $355 towards a $3000 model...so more like 11%

agoldweber
May 22, 2002, 11:55 PM
I wonder if Apple will lead the industry in one more aspect?
avoiding e-waste!

I know they're a struggling company and probably wouldn't waste their time (or money), but maybe that's their motivation.

then again, that's a lot to offer for some plastic recycling.

or maybe they'll ship them to Afghanistan.

ok, I'm rambling-------->

eyelikeart
May 23, 2002, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by agoldweber
I wonder if Apple will lead the industry in one more aspect?
avoiding e-waste!


so what can they do with pieces of silicon with soldered metal in it?!

Rower_CPU
May 23, 2002, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
so what can they do with pieces of silicon with soldered metal in it?!

The main concern is the lead(Pb) that shows up in older machines.

It's better to melt down or recycle those things than let them sit in dumps or third world countries and pollute the environment.

Aqua OS X
May 23, 2002, 01:06 AM
Who knows if this program will vene be offered in the US. People in russia are broke...remember that.

Hemingray
May 23, 2002, 01:18 AM
Why the heck would I want to give them a computer I could easily get $1,000 for just to get $300 credit on a new computer? :rolleyes:

Heyyyy, maybe I can trade in one of my Mac Pluses! :D Now THAT I would do!

adelaney
May 23, 2002, 02:20 AM
I think it's something of a swindle. God bless Apple and all but just my local computer store would give me $380 cash for my 233 Wall Street with a broken monitor and obviously I could get more than that on ebay. Speaking of which my 800Mhz TiBook with all the trimmings arrives tomorrow. No more broken monitor for me.

Tobsen
May 23, 2002, 02:33 AM
It is also aviable in Germany and rest of Europe!

M8705*/A Power Mac G4 800MHz => Rabatt: 200 €;
M8666*/A Power Mac G4 933MHz => Rabatt: 300 €;
M8667*/A Power Mac G4 1GHzDP => Rabatt: 400 €;
M8649*/A Power Mac Server G4 933MHz => Rabatt: 300 €;
M8650*/A Power Mac Server G4 1GHzDP => Rabatt: 400 €;

Qualified Macs are:

Power Macintosh 4400/160; Power Macintosh 4400/200; Power Macintosh 4400/200 PC Compatible; Power Macintosh 5200/75 LC; Power Macintosh 5260/100; Power Macintosh 5260/120; Power Macintosh 5300/100 LC; Power Macintosh 5400/120; Power Macintosh 5400/180; Power Macintosh 5400/200; Power Macintosh 5500/225; Power Macintosh 5500/250; Power Macintosh 6100/60; Power Macintosh 6100/60AV; Power Macintosh 6100/66; Power Macintosh 6100/66AV; Power Macintosh 6100/66 DOS Compatible; Power Macintosh 6200/75; Power Macintosh 6300/120; Power Macintosh 6300/160; Power Macintosh 6400/200; Power Macintosh 6500/225; Power Macintosh 6500/250; Power Macintosh 6500/275; Power Macintosh 6500/300; Power Macintosh 7100/66; Power Macintosh 7100/66AV; Power Macintosh 7100/80; Power Macintosh 7100/80AV; Power Macintosh 7200/75; Power Macintosh 7200/90; Power Macintosh 7200/120; Power Macintosh 7200/120 PC Compatible; Power Macintosh 7220/200; Power Macintosh 7220/200 PC Compatible; Power Macintosh 7300/166; Power Macintosh 7300/180; Power Macintosh 7300/180 PC Compatible; Power Macintosh 7300/200; Power Macintosh 7500/100; Power Macintosh 7600/120; Power Macintosh 7600/132; Power Macintosh 7600/200; Power Macintosh 8100/80; Power Macintosh 8100/80AV; Power Macintosh 8100/100; Power Macintosh 8100/100AV; Power Macintosh 8100/110; Power Macintosh 8200/100; Power Macintosh 8200/120; Power Macintosh 8500/120; Power Macintosh 8500/132; Power Macintosh 8500/150; Power Macintosh 8500/180; Power Macintosh 8600/200; Power Macintosh 8600/250; Power Macintosh 8600/300; Power Macintosh 9500/120; Power Macintosh 9500/132; Power Macintosh 9500/150; Power Macintosh 9500/180MP; Power Macintosh 9500/200; Power Macintosh 9600/200; Power Macintosh 9600/200MP; Power Macintosh 9600/233; Power Macintosh 9600/300; Power Macintosh 9600/350; Power Macintosh G3 Desktop ; Power Macintosh G3 Mini Tower; Workgroup Server 6150; Workgroup Server 6150/66; Workgroup Server 7250/120; Workgroup Server 7350/180; Workgroup Server 8150; Workgroup Server 8150/110; Workgroup Server 8550/132; Workgroup Server 8550/200; Workgroup Server 9150; Workgroup Server 9150/120; Workgroup Server 9650/233; Workgroup Server 9650/350

See also (in German)
http://www.apple.com/de/promo/money_and_power/reseller.html

Tobsen

skladko
May 23, 2002, 03:05 AM
It is actually true. Apple started to offer buyback all over Europe with included list of accepted old macs.

Apple Slovakia offers iPod travel kit for free with the new iPod as well.

reflex
May 23, 2002, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by Beej
I wonder if I can trade in more than one old Mac? He he... they'd be paying me to take away new G4s! :D

It's limited to one old computer for each new purchase.

BigBen
May 23, 2002, 05:24 AM
that΄s what I call a good chance to upgrade!

OSeXy!
May 23, 2002, 05:57 AM
Notice how the rebate's only for QuickSilvers? Looks like the off-loading of inventory has already started in the run-up to MWNY! Hey, Hey!

Aqua OS X
May 23, 2002, 06:36 AM
Damn, they're even allowing you to trade in those old crusty powermacs such as the LC's... that's the bomb.

This is a great way to get the old install base onto OS X. After all, classic MacOS is dead now. ;)

mysticdp
May 23, 2002, 06:52 AM
Considering the fact that I would be lucky to get AU$150 for my PowerMac 7200/120, let alone US$180, if I was after a new Mac, I think this is a great idea. Maybe not for the "better" machines, but for the older stuff, that's a good way to shave a bit of the cost of a new G4. (Please tell me if I have misinterpreted this whole thing, as I can't read a scrap of Russian).

Macmaniac
May 23, 2002, 07:22 AM
Leave it to the Russians to have a program like this, hopefully this will encourage more people to upgrade.

iaxs
May 23, 2002, 07:55 AM
The promo is now active in the UK. See:

http://registration.euro.apple.com/promo/trade_in/uk/

Wish I had the cash!

pc2mac_convert
May 23, 2002, 08:09 AM
So, then, do you think they would allow not only a trade-in, but then a rebate to be utilized also??? I haven't done any research, obviously, on the limitations of this deal. But if one could trade their old mac, purchase the new one at a substantial discount, and then apply the current powermac rebate as well, that would be... nutty. My guess is this won't be allowed.

wishful thinking?

edit:
Think I answered my own question... in their "Official terms and conditions"

5. This offer is limited to one rebate per qualifying purchase...

oh well. Still a great deal for someone with an older box...

Mr. Anderson
May 23, 2002, 09:44 AM
So is this rebate added on to the purchase incentive that Apple already has to try and get things cleared out by MWNY? If so that's not a bad deal, or is the incentive only available in the US?

Aquanaut
May 23, 2002, 11:35 AM
The offer is now on the Apple UK website. Why not go to ebay and buy an old wreck for a few quid to trade-in?

Good for Apple for doing this as the margins are obviously tight anyway. Would they have the additional cost of paying the dealers and anyone else for handling too? Anything to recycle the old stuff is welcome.

I notice that the offer runs to the end of July which is beyond MYNY so maybe the new towers are not in the offer or won't be out until Augst to tie in with Jaguar.

Love from the UK :)

Zaren
May 23, 2002, 11:46 AM
Get those old machines out of users hands, and give them OS X machines, excellent plan.

I just wonder how many people are going to take them up on the offer, and what Apple's going to do with all the old boxes.

I'd love to see this extended to the U.S. as well. If they'd only accept multiple machines per person... I'd be going hog wild on ebay :D
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JD2
May 23, 2002, 12:32 PM
Seen this here in Belgium (Europe) also in certain stores, no news from Apple itself though!
Sounds like new (improved?)machines to me, I 've rarely seen Apple do this for no reason, did you?

mc68k
May 23, 2002, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by dukestreet
So is this rebate added on to the purchase incentive that Apple already has to try and get things cleared out by MWNY? If so that's not a bad deal, or is the incentive only available in the US?
That's what I want to know. They'd probably make the most $ from the U.S. since people would be buying a new machine.

I want to trade in my old 7200, they'd probably give me more $ than I'd get elsewhere. Where's this deal in the U.S. hmmmmmmm.......

Now I'm peeved. :(

JD2
May 23, 2002, 02:22 PM
I'm on a 8600/250 now with 384M of DRAM and a XLR8 G3/450 processor upgrade card right now. Btw that card has an 466 processor in it (it came to me that way) and it runs at 500Mhz!
If I would get an Double 1GHz with a 17" Lcd, I would get back from Apple about as much as I would get for it on ebay I think... This is worth some thinking over.
I do not know however what Apple wants if they take back, can one trade in just the basic machine (no keyb, screen, extra mem and so on...?)
Anyone?

emdezet
May 23, 2002, 02:23 PM
All minitowers went up €100 on the day, the buyback program started in Germany. You get €300 when buying 800MHz, €450 for 933MHz and €550 if you buy the DualGig Beast.

mstur
May 23, 2002, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Aqua OS X
Who knows if this program will vene be offered in the US. People in russia are broke...remember that.

This rebate program is already offered by other European Apple websites, so it is NOT a Russian Special at all !!

BTW.: Russians are far from being broke. European cities and resorts are full of heavy spending Russian tourists, who replace Japanese and Arabs, who were the spenders in the 80s and 90s ... ;-)

In Vienna the people with the highest spending rate per day are tourist from the Ukraine, who spend on average 400$ PER DAY...

emdezet
May 23, 2002, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by mstur
In Vienna the people with the highest spending rate per day are tourist from the Ukraine, who spend on average 400$ PER DAY...

ok, so the corrupt personnel of the former oppressive system and the family of organized crime throw their fortunes at pleasure and travel.
what does that have to do with half a continent being so very broke to the bone? I'll tell you: It's the difference between taking and giving the very last.

but after all, this seems to be rather off-topic.
let's all keep anticipating the new mobo architecture and the case design:D

agoldweber
May 23, 2002, 02:41 PM
this was mentioned in an earlier post to this thread, but I think it's worth pursuing further...

does it seem like it would be worth it for Apple to pay to the machines running OS 7, 8, & 9 so they can further the funeral procession for the Classic OS? in other words, is this offer somehow tied in to pushing OS X?

something about this idea makes sense to me, but something doesn't quite fit--why wouldn't they just end support and tell developers to do the same?

also, I wonder if this could work to their advantage in the Education market where they're quickly losing ground to Microsoft. maybe they have a plan like this in place already?

Macduncan
May 23, 2002, 03:32 PM
Where have you seen on Apple.de this dump in the promo???:confused:

Check this out:http://www.apple.com/de/promo/money_and_power/

my $0.02.

King Cobra
May 23, 2002, 04:56 PM
Why would anyone want to sell their old machines to Apple when you can sell them on eBay? Couldn't you make more than, say, $200 there?

I think Apple is trying to ban the auctioning world from the internet. :)
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mc68k
May 23, 2002, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
Why would anyone want to sell their old machines to Apple when you can sell them on eBay? Couldn't you make more than, say, $200 there?

I think Apple is trying to ban the auctioning world from the internet. :)
I guess it depends upon the machine. Most of the machines listed there are not worth much of anything. The only machines there that are worth the most are the 9600's and the Biege G3's. Everything else you would get more from Apple than you could get off eBay. With every new realease from Apple, the demand for old machines goes into the cellar. The offer that Apple is extending is a valid one IMO (no eBay troubles either).

King Cobra
May 23, 2002, 06:13 PM
This might have been brought up earlier, but what exactly does Apple plan to do with older machines that do not support OS X? (I have seen that the Beige G3 supports OS X.) It doesn't seem right that Apple is going to accept older machines without a use.

BTW, mc68k, you do bring up a point I missed. But if you were lucky enough you could always try to sell a late PowerMac xxxx model for $400 on eBay and get extra profit. I mean, you never know what will happen with eBay these days.
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mc68k
May 23, 2002, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by King Cobra
This might have been brought up earlier, but what exactly does Apple plan to do with older machines that do not support OS X? (I have seen that the Beige G3 supports OS X.) It doesn't seem right that Apple is going to accept older machines without a use.

Same thing that happens when you trade in an old clunker towards the purchae of a new car— scrap. There are a lot of dangerous/precious metals in there that either need to be taken care of or used as a tax write-off.

They can recycle the plastic, dispose of lead, gather precious metals from connectors/traces/wires (copper, silver, gold, etc.).

They're really not going to use the computers for anything, as Apple is trying to push beige g3 and higher (and more recently, sawtooth and higher).

Yes, you can run OS X on beige G3 and lower. Unofficial support stops at the x1xx series of DT and <3400 series of laptops. I run OS X on my s900 and I am going to post my benchmark results in that benchmark thread and see how I stack up.

britboy
May 23, 2002, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Macduncan
Where have you seen on Apple.de this dump in the promo???:confused:

Check this out:http://www.apple.com/de/promo/money_and_power/

my $0.02.


Next time check around a bit first. Change the 'de' to 'uk', and you the exact same offer, only in english. Where's the problem?

dualburn001
May 23, 2002, 09:16 PM
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• $180 ΡΕΡΗΡy ΡΕΡΔΡ{ΡΦΡΕΡ{Ρu Power Mac G4/800 (M8705LL/A)
• $265 ΡΕΡΗΡy ΡΕΡΔΡ{ΡΦΡΕΡ{Ρu Power MacG4/933 (M8666LL/A)
• 355 ΡΕΡΗΡy ΡΕΡΔΡ{ΡΦΡΕΡ{Ρu Power Mac G4/1G/DP (M8667LL/A)
------------------------------------------------------------------------



That doesnt look like russian to me.

mc68k
May 23, 2002, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by dualburn001
That doesnt look like russian to me.
Someone probably did a copy/paste and the original characters got lost somewhere and were replaced with something else (probably the vBulletin system, it doesn't even let me use the opt-k for the apple symbol :().

Matt_d
May 23, 2002, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by jaykk
What if apple gives wintel users give a chance to trade-in their pcs for a brand new Mac? just a thought..

hehe:) i like it.

Aquanaut
May 24, 2002, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by dualburn001
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• $180 ΡΕΡΗΡy ΡΕΡΔΡ{ΡΦΡΕΡ{Ρu Power Mac G4/800 (M8705LL/A)
• $265 ΡΕΡΗΡy ΡΕΡΔΡ{ΡΦΡΕΡ{Ρu Power MacG4/933 (M8666LL/A)
• 355 ΡΕΡΗΡy ΡΕΡΔΡ{ΡΦΡΕΡ{Ρu Power Mac G4/1G/DP (M8667LL/A)
------------------------------------------------------------------------



That doesnt look like russian to me.

According to my copy of the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Apple have opened a store on Alpha Centauri and this is the Nonan enclosure model.

cleo
May 25, 2002, 06:07 PM
...is offer a rebate/discount trade-in program for used PC's. They could do the same thing as far as recycling/recovering precious metals, etc, and it would be a great marketing technique to pitch to ne Mac users. "Give us your Dell and we'll give you $200 off a computer that actually works!" :D

MacAztec
May 26, 2002, 12:50 PM
When it comes to the US, I will be getting free G4s!

mysticdp
May 30, 2002, 02:17 AM
Found this on the Apple.com.au site:

http://www.apple.com.au/promo/tradeup/

Looks like I will have to live with $100 for my 7200. :(

Matt.