Why?... This is so CONFUSING!!!

[steji]

Hi... :apple:

I'm new to mac forums and first off, i wanted to say that mac's are the worst computers for programming and i need some help...

I'm designing a program on 'Visual Basic' and am trying to add pictures to my 'Forms'...

I've tried to printscreen on mac's and they seem to always go onto the mac side of the system, not on the windows. My problem is that with the computers that i'm using, the admin's have diesbaled the option of being able to log onto mac side and then change onto windows parallel... my mother has to be one or the other!...

i've tried doing things wirelessly but that is also disabled...

also, mac's don't have a simple printscreen and then paste option...

I've tried using my usb by saving a picture on mac and then transferring it to another mac with wondows on it... The picture then opens up on macromedia fireworks... At the same time, the mac side of the computer does not have Visual Basic installed on it. Only on the windows side...

keep in mind that my installation priveledges are disabled seeing as though i am a student using the school's computers...


i need help and if anyone can help me, i'd really appreciate it... :D

[TEG]

First of all, Visual Basic is a horrible development environment and is very Windows Specific. XCode is much easier and more tuned for cross platform development.

The command to Take a screen shot directly to the clipboard (equivalent of PrtScn on Windows) is Command+Control+Shift+3. To do it in Windows on a Mac, you should just be able to hit F-13.

Also, if you are in Windows, then nothing should appear in "the OS X Side" as OS X is not running.

It would be better if you were to explain what you are trying to do, perhaps we can help as many of us develop for multiple platforms.

TEG

[JNB]

First off, that's a pretty broad statement, sure to garner all sorts of sympathy and help.

Second, VB? That's what you consider the sole reason Macs aren't good for programming?

Third, sounds like most of your problems are related to the network & IT admin policies, not the OS.

Last, the remainder of your issues are likely due to your unfamiliarity to the OS. You should try to learn an OS's functions before you assume there's some sort of required standard (all navigation & routine desktop functions were not created by Microsoft, trust me) before you flip out. Print Screen is only one of them, and if the Mac OS has focus, that's where it's going to go. Where's the surprise in that?

[SilentGreg]

I'm sorry.


What are you trying to do? Take a screen shot of your Parallels virtual machine? Take a screen shot of your OS X install? Program Visual Basic applications on your Mac? :confused:

By the way, Visual Basic is a crappy language to program in, XCode is a far superior programming language. But that's school for ya. :rolleyes:

EDIT: TEG and John beat me to it. =P

[steji]

i'm basically trying to printscreen a picture, save it and use it in VB... (btw, VB is the only programming program used at my school)

the only problem is that i cant 'paste' the picture (eg, in paint)...

it saves onto the mac side...

i can't access the mac side because there have been restrictions put into place...

for me to access parallel from mac, i need the admin's permissions...

btw, i'm using leopard

[TEG]

By the way, Visual Basic is a crappy language to program in, XCode is a far superior programming language. But that's school for ya. :rolleyes:

EDIT: TEG and John beat me to it. =P

Visual Basic, aside from being a language is also what a lot of people call Visual Studio. Whatever call you are making to take the screen shot is being intercepted by OS X, likely this is actually a setting in your Virtual Machine Host. You could see if you can access the OS X drive via My Computer in Windows, then just grab the file from the default User's Desktop.

TEG

[steji]

i'm basically trying to printscreen a picture, save it and use it in VB... (btw, VB is the only programming program used at my school)

the only problem is that i cant 'paste' the picture (eg, in paint)...

it saves onto the mac side...

i can't access the mac side because there have been restrictions put into place...

for me to access parallel from mac, i need the admin's permissions...

btw, i'm using leopard

[EricBrian]

If you can't get it directly from Windows to OS X or other way around, just email it to yourself!

[steji]

by me trying to do that, i'll be wasting half my time logging on and off and restarting the comp... is there just a simple way of me being able to printscreen a picture and then paste it into paint?....

that is all that i want to do without having to switch OS's...

what if i were to try and use a pc keyboard?...

[TEG]

How are you trying to take a screen shot?

Did you try hitting F-13? That is the same key as PrintScreen on a PC keyboard.

Are you trying to use Apple-Shift-3?

TEG

[Infrared]

Hi... :apple:

I'm new to mac forums and first off, i wanted to say that mac's are the worst computers for programming and i need some help...

Must be the worst computers for writing clear English,
too, if that's anything to go by :)

[Neil321]

shift + fn + f11

[nep61]

by me trying to do that, i'll be wasting half my time logging on and off and restarting the comp... is there just a simple way of me being able to printscreen a picture and then paste it into paint?....

that is all that i want to do without having to switch OS's...

what if i were to try and use a pc keyboard?...

what if i were to try and use a pc keyboard?... Are you serious? Yeah, that will make everything work more smoothly and a lot better...:rolleyes:

And if you don't think you've already wasted enough time trying to explain yourself, e-mail the .jpg, .bmp, or whatever it is, to yourself, and see what happens....:D good luck...

[I'mAMac]

i'm basically trying to printscreen a picture, save it and use it in VB... (btw, VB is the only programming program used at my school)

the only problem is that i cant 'paste' the picture (eg, in paint)...

it saves onto the mac side...

i can't access the mac side because there have been restrictions put into place...

for me to access parallel from mac, i need the admin's permissions...

btw, i'm using leopard
How can there be restrictions on something necessary to do your work? :confused:
This doesn't make sense that they give you parallels in OS X but you can't use OS X...

Just e-mail it to yourself and open it in parallels or wherever the heck you wanted it.

[costabunny]

Have you tried using Windows built in On Screen Keyboard? Start-Run 'osk' and viola one on screen keyboard with Print Screen button that copies the screen buffer into the clipboard under parallels.

[steji]

i've tried half the things that you guys are telling me about...

the admin's have placed restrictions... they've got boot camp running and i can only access one OS at a time... i can change between the two OS's...

even if i were to send it to myself, i'd be spending half the time shutting down and restarting...

BUT, ieven if boot camp is running, the picture shouldn't appear on the mac screen anyway because one OS is operating nad not both of them together...

I know i might be confusing myself but if you don't understand, the only way that i can do this is by showing you and i've got no idea how to do that for you...

[steji]

I CAN'T USE PARALLELS!!! IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER!!! (Windows or Mac)

[nanofrog]

Here's a thought. What about saving the image to a thumb drive, or even a disk?
Not direct, but may be convenient. :p

[steji]

here is a thought, i can't save the pic bcoz everytime i printscreen the picture that i want, it saves onto the mac side!!!

my thumb drive won't make any difference!!!

[JNB]

If you are booted into Windows, I fail to see how it's being written to the Mac volume.

The IT weenies have created an environment which may require minimum fixing from their standpoint, but they've managed to bollix up two OS's in the process. It's not the fault of the machine, Mac OS, Boot Camp, or Windows. Blame IT.

Regardless, maybe you (& everyone else) has forgotten this little tidbit--Print Screen (either full screen or just active window) copies the image to the Clipboard. Just open Word or whatever other suitable windows app is available, and Crtl-V (Paste). Save the doc to another drive, print it out, whatever. If it's impossible to accomplish that, IT screwed it up, likely intentionally.

Also, Print Screen does exist in the Mac: it's Cmd-Shift-3 for full screen, CMD-Shift-4 for a selectable area.

[steji]

that's the problem... i know that it should go onto the clipboard but i cannot paste the picture because it is being stored onto the mac side...

i also think that it mightv'e been IT and i asked them if they could help me but i think that they need help themselves...

thanks for your comments guys but i don't think that you can answer me any further...

[TuffLuffJimmy]

This is the funniest thread I've read in a while. I don' think your admin would force your Windows partition to write screenshots to your OS X partition.

The funnier part is that you say how bad Macs are, then turn around asking for help from people who obviously have an affinity for them.

[moose.boy]

Right

1. You are sat in front of an Apple Computer

2. This computer is running windows at the time.

3. Mac OS is not running as you have stated it is under bootcamp.

4. Therefore the machine is effectively the same as any other PC

5. You are trying to take a screenshot within Windows

6. The key command to emulate the print-screen button has already been given in the thread above.

7. When you use the print screen button Windows will place a copy of the screen into the clipboard.

8. You can then paste it into any application that will accept it.

9. Mac OS X uses HFS+ as its file system.

10. Windows is unable to read or write to HFS+ without additional drivers (which are not supplied by Microsoft).

11. Computers are not magical, mysterious, sentient beings sent to confuse us (or more specifically you), they are pieces of machinery that operate to set rules. Try and think through what is happening rather than jumping to wild, inaccurate, and blatantly wrong conclusions.

[steji]

what sort of an additional driver would i need?

[TuffLuffJimmy]

what sort of an additional driver would i need?

Macfuse, which costs money.

[alphaod]

If you're doing VB you should run Windows and Visual Studio

[iToaster]

what sort of an additional driver would i need?

You don't, he's telling you that Windows is unable to read or write to the Mac part of the hard drive. In other words, unless the IT department has gone through a lot of trouble for the sole purpose of annoying you, you can not have a screenshot go to the Mac OS X part of the hard drive... it has to be in your clipboard.

[steji]

macfuse... is there a freeware version or trial version?...

i am running visual studio on the windows side...

i do not have VBS on the mac side...

[steji]

even if it is on the clipboard, it won't past into a word or paint document...

[Babooshka]

MacDrive is another alternative to your problem I think, this thread has confused me.

But MacDrive has a free trial version.

[costabunny]

what you are saying is that you are running windows nativly (meaning the computer has booted up into windows). Then you say you cannot take a screenshot and paste it to a document.

This sounds quite strange to me. If you take a screen shot it has to go to the clipboard, unless for some bizare reason the clipboard isnt working.

Can you cut and paste text or images between applications (eg between word and excel)?

This 'mac side' and 'windows side' stuff is a red herring I think. You state you are running windows from bootcamp, hence the 'mac side' does not exist as far as the computer is concerned.

Perhaps the keyboard shortcut (for the mac keyboard) isnt actually taking the screenshot at all?). Can you install Infranview (or ask IT to do it for you if you do not have permissions)< and then use that to grab the screen.

If they wont (or cant) help - you can run infranview directly from your usb drive (no need to install it on the computer).
snippet from infranview site:

Q: Is there a portable IrfanView version (for USB sticks, CDs etc.)?
A: Yes, EVERY IrfanView version is portable. You can:
1. Copy your existing/installed IrfanView folder to USB stick (recommended), or
2. Use the normal installer and install IrfanView to an USB stick folder, or
3. Use the ZIP version and unzip to an USB stick folder.

go to http://www.irfanview.com/ and get infranview and give it a try (what have you to lose at this point (use the screen capture facility inside infranview itself and not the key command you've been using in Windows)

Hope this helps because I have nothing else....

[steji]

guys... thanks for the replies... the IT dep. have decided to do something about it and it should work out...

you'll hear from me if there are any other problems...

[HomeBru Studios]

I am totally confused as to what is actually going on and what you are really trying to accomplish so I'll add to the confusion... If you are coding in VB write code to read and process the clipboard contents!?!?

[steji]

what are you going on about?... now you've confused me!

read the thread again and then you'll understand...

i've already said that the problem is being fixed as i type and i thank the guys who contributed in helping me...

[Bmode]

I had to read this thread in it's entirety, as I too have had issues with running an PC emulator, but it does work. It's just very temperamental and not as forgiving as the Mac OS. If there's one file out of place on the PC side, your in trouble. He would of been better by not starting with an insult towards Apple, and further more having a signature like that will not do well in a Mac forum.

[brand]

I had to read this thread in it's entirety, as I too have had issues with running an PC emulator, but it does work.

Then you should reread the thread because the OP is not running Windows in any sort of emulated environment, he is running it natively.

[nomar383]

This whole thread makes my lolzcopter go "woi woi woi"! I'm glad I won't be using any windows programs in the near future, they might be programmed by this fellow ;)