Help the MacRumors SETI Team get on the Top 200 Lists! [Archive]

simX

Jan 10, 2004, 08:37 PM

So here's the deal with the MacRumors SETI ranking: currently, the SETI project only lists the top 200 teams in each category, and the top 200 teams for all categories. Here are the categories for the SETI project:

-- Primary Schools
-- Secondary Schools
-- Junior Colleges
-- Universities and Departments
-- Small Companies (< 50 employees)
-- Medium Companies (50-1000 employees)
-- Large Companies (> 1000 employees)
-- Clubs
-- Government Agencies

All the lists can be accessed here (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/team_list.html), and our team page is here (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_139691.html).

The MacRumors SETI team is a club. So if we want to get on one of the top 200 lists, we need to substantially beef up the number of work units we turn in. The 200th club team has turned in 237758 work units for SETI@home, while the MacRumors SETI team has only turned in 128468 work units. While we still have a ways to go to get onto one of the top lists, we're over halfway there! Just look at how the MacRumors' folding team has blossomed: I think that the SETI team can do the same.

We're also just barely over a third of the way to getting on the top 200 list for ALL teams. The 200th overall team has 385067 work units turned in. That team is Symantec: since most of you all hate Norton Utilities, let's make it our goal to kick them off the list!

How should we do this? I think the first way to do this is visibility. So if you're a member of the MacRumors SETI team, put a little note in your signature pointing them to the SETI FAQ (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47705), and perhaps this thread as well. Don't hesitate to tempt those Folding users to defect over to the SETI team as well. ;)

Note that we have a big advantage over the Folding team: we don't have to have computers running Mac OS X. The SETI client runs on any Mac running System 7.5.5 or higher. That means we have a much broader base from which to get power. So if you have a Mac sitting powered off all the time, and you want to get some use out of it, consider adding it to the MacRumors SETI team.

We also need to get more users onto the team. So let's also try to get 500 active members on the SETI team within a few months. We currently have 228 users. Many of these users have been inactive, too, so if we can get these users to wake up and start working SETI units again, that would be great, too.

Rower_CPU

Jan 10, 2004, 10:32 PM

Good luck, SETI team! It'd be great to see you guys make a serious run up the rankings.

I'll see if I can find a spare machine or two to add to my whopping 6 units. ;)

jeff.macaddict

Jan 12, 2004, 12:58 AM

How do you think my old Performa 6300CD will run SETI?

94MHz
48MB RAM
No ethernet--I'll need to get a localtalk adapter or something.

Yes, I do hate Norton stuff. I got systemworks, and antivirus, and personal firewall. It made my Mac go crazy. I think maybe microsoft was really the one to blame, even though they had nothing to do with this incident.

My girlfriend left me. It's microsoft's fault. :D

simX

Jan 14, 2004, 06:56 PM

Just an update: after our last "bout" of visibility, the MacRumors SETI club team has gained a lot of work units from the joined users... currently, we're now at 194134 work units, which means we only have 44573 work units to go before we break the Top 200 Club Team list (since the 200th club team now has 238707 units instead of 237758 units). That's really good considering we were 109290 units behind just a few days ago!

Let's keep it up... we can break the top 200 club list at this rate. And definitely find all those old Macs that you can put to work on the SETI project!

neoelectronaut

Jan 14, 2004, 08:13 PM

Well, if/when I get my old Compaq PC up and running I'll shove the SETI client onto it so I can have Seti on my PC running all day and then F@H on my Mac.

Stelliform

Jan 14, 2004, 09:21 PM

I used to run SETI years ago, I just transferred my 1400 Units to the team....

I might also fire up some of my spare machines, GO MacRumors!!!

ph_555_shag

Jan 20, 2004, 06:39 AM

IM IN...... ill add like .0000000000000000000000000000000001 units (iMac G30 :'( )

latergator116

Jan 20, 2004, 08:03 AM

I wonder what it would be like if the Virgina Tech super computer start folding for us just for a few days.:p

Flynnstone

Jan 20, 2004, 10:18 AM

Just curious,
How fast is a 1.8 SP G5 at Seti, typically?
and G4s G5s?

eyefragment

Jan 25, 2004, 03:09 PM

Well, I just switched alliance from camp Blizzforums to camp MacRumors. C'mon guys, *just* 40,000 more work units to go. Everyone needs to put 100 more work units in, it's not that much to ask... well, maybe it is, but we can't let the F@H team have all the bragging rights can we?

Pull that old G3 233 mhz out of the closet! Put it to work! Go to your local landfill and rescue some computers! Fight for the cause!

{/zeal}

Macmaniac

Jan 25, 2004, 05:24 PM

Well I rejoined after I had a lot of problems with SETI crashing all the time, my 76 WUs are growing:)
I've also got a 300mhz iBook for added steam;)

ph_555_shag

Jan 25, 2004, 11:22 PM

wow....... 1st unit 22 hours,
2nd unit 22 mins

I REALY need a new computer

Macmaniac

Jan 26, 2004, 04:39 PM

That 300mhz iBook just finished a WU, only 26 hours;)

simX

Jan 27, 2004, 12:08 AM

Woo! 114 more units and we'll top 200000 work units! Go SETI team!

Rower_CPU

Jan 27, 2004, 12:30 AM

I should be cashing in a WU here overnight..got the dual 1GHz MDD running SETI now. ;)

Rower_CPU

Jan 27, 2004, 06:09 PM

Looks like we're at 200109 WUs right now. :)

Stelliform

Jan 27, 2004, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Looks like we're at 200109 WUs right now. :)

Cool! I put some of my older computers on SETI, the ones they never seemed to make a deadline in folding. (1 400Mhz G3, a 400 AMD K-3, and a 200Mhz Pent Pro.) As soon as I get a network card glitch fixed I will add another G3 400... I know they aren't much but they seem to turn out 6 WU a week.

Why can't MR have two Number one Mac teams. :)

Hey Rower,Why you are in the team list twice?

And furthermore, Why is Team Muro in the list twice taking up a top 200 spot?

Rower_CPU

Jan 27, 2004, 06:28 PM

I signed up w/ more than one email. I had a PC at the time and wanted to keep my results separate. :p

Stelliform

Jan 27, 2004, 06:30 PM

That makes sense, you wanted proof once and for all about the superiority of the Mac. ;)

That, or we are such a sorry lot that you think you need to compete against yourself. :p

Rower_CPU

Jan 27, 2004, 06:33 PM

Just comparing a 400MHz PowerBook to a 1.33 Athlon. Guess which won? :rolleyes:

Counterfit

Jan 27, 2004, 06:50 PM

Sorry boys, my 100.5 units are taken (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_138861.html). :D

Stelliform

Jan 28, 2004, 03:14 PM

....
By the way the FAQ doesn't mention it, but MACNN has a good stats page for the team at http://teamstats.macnn.com/seti1/stats.php?page=b1&TID=139691

MrMacMan

Jan 28, 2004, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by Counterfit
Sorry boys, my 100.5 units are taken (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_138861.html). :D

Ah well.

If your trying to recruit... that wasn't much of a post.

:p

Counterfit

Jan 29, 2004, 12:01 AM

Hey, we have more WU per member :P

eyefragment

Jan 29, 2004, 04:59 PM

Ya know... that guy posting his 100.5 work units as taken gives me an idea...

Why are we trying to assimilate members? Why not make this the MAC seti@home team and try to assimilate full teams?

Stelliform

Jan 30, 2004, 07:27 PM

That is what is interesting about SETI, if you can talk enough people to switch to your team, all of their WU's transfer. The drawback, like today when we lost a member who had a significant amount of points... :(

MrMacMan

Jan 31, 2004, 02:13 AM

Originally posted by Stelliform
That is what is interesting about SETI, if you can talk enough people to switch to your team, all of their WU's transfer. The drawback, like today when we lost a member who had a significant amount of points... :(

Damn, who did we lose?

:eek:

Stelliform

Feb 2, 2004, 12:40 PM

And another one bites the dust. :( But luckily just a small one... We are looking to break 201k soon.

celaurie

Feb 2, 2004, 07:10 PM

I'll throw in my 227 data blocks to help out. :)

Stelliform

Feb 3, 2004, 12:27 PM

Cool thanks Celaurie,

Here is a pic of who left. I find it odd that we had three leave like that. Perhaps some subversion by another team?

simX

Feb 4, 2004, 02:32 AM

Yeah, I noticed the defections, too. Where did you get those graphs, by the way... from MacNN?

Stelliform

Feb 4, 2004, 09:14 AM

Yes, there is a link to the stats for our team higher up in this thread. It would be nice if someone were to put that link in the SETI FAQ, ;);) :D

simX

Feb 4, 2004, 01:10 PM

Yeah, wouldn't it? It'd also be nice if a someone were to unlock that thread so maybe it could be edited to include the link. ;) :rolleyes:

Rower_CPU

Feb 4, 2004, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by simX
Yeah, wouldn't it? It'd also be nice if a someone were to unlock that thread so maybe it could be edited to include the link. ;) :rolleyes:

Last I checked you could edit your own posts in locked threads. Let me know if you can't.

I locked it to prevent "off-topic" discussion. ;)

Doctor Q

Feb 4, 2004, 03:18 PM

I run the command-line version of SETI@home when my Mac is awake, but not when my Mac is asleep. I don't mind contributing CPU cycles, but I don't want it writing its status files to my hard disk every minute. I want my hard disk spun down and taking a well deserved rest overnight.

There was once an item at macosxhints (http://www.macosxhints.com/) about running SETI@home with a RAM disk. There was more to it than simply putting the SETI folder in the RAM disk. You had to have certain system folder items there too. But the item is no longer posted.

Does anyone have the facts about how to run CLI SETI@home without disk accesses?

simX

Feb 4, 2004, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Last I checked you could edit your own posts in locked threads. Let me know if you can't.

I locked it to prevent "off-topic" discussion. ;)

Nope, I can't edit it... it says it's locked and it just returns me to the thread.

Originally posted by Doctor Q
I run the command-line version of SETI@home when my Mac is awake, but not when my Mac is asleep. I don't mind contributing CPU cycles, but I don't want it writing its status files to my hard disk every minute. I want my hard disk spun down and taking a well deserved rest overnight.

There was once an item at macosxhints (http://www.macosxhints.com/) about running SETI@home with a RAM disk. There was more to it than simply putting the SETI folder in the RAM disk. You had to have certain system folder items there too. But the item is no longer posted.

Does anyone have the facts about how to run CLI SETI@home without disk accesses?

Are you sure you have to have more stuff on the RAM disk other than the .sah files that SETI@home generates? I remember using a RAM disk, but I don't know if it's worth the effort or not... plus ramBunctious was pestering me to register. :p I do have a gig of RAM, though, so it might not be a bad idea....

Doctor Q

Feb 4, 2004, 04:07 PM

I am not sure that you have to move other files into the RAM disk, but I am sure that the tip I am referring to SAID THAT you have to.

Maybe I can test this myself. What's a way that I can find out the last time the hard disk was accessed, without accessing the disk to find out? I hope the Heisenberg uncertainty principle doesn't apply to Mac OS X!

MrMacMan

Feb 4, 2004, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Last I checked you could edit your own posts in locked threads. Let me know if you can't.

I locked it to prevent "off-topic" discussion. ;)

nope, maybe mods can... but any Locked thread cannot be edited, as in posted in or edited a post you had previously wrote.

Stelliform

Feb 10, 2004, 05:56 PM

We have added three people to the team!!! Welcome!

simX

Feb 15, 2004, 05:23 PM

Arg! The gap between us and the top 200 clubs list is widening! While we've pushed over the 200000 work unit line, the 200th club is processing work units faster than us! We're looking at a 50167 unit gap right now, where before it was in the 40000s.

Anybody got any spare computers, or some spare people to convince to join the MacRumors SETI team?

Stelliform

Feb 18, 2004, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by simX

Anybody got any spare computers, or some spare people to convince to join the MacRumors SETI team?

The gap has widened to 58000.

I am still running folding, but I have installed SETI on all of my old computers. They spit out a WU every few days, but it is better than nothing.

By the way, jBiga must have been using multiple logins, since he just added 102 WU's under the same name. Thanks!

....

Doctor Q

Feb 18, 2004, 06:32 PM

A computer teacher who I help might not mind setting her classroom computers to run SETI, but I'm not sure whether or not it would be possible because we've set up the Macs to netboot. They all start with identical boot disk images on the server as their boot device and all student home folders are on the server too. I would need to set things up properly so that the SETI data files were in either a home folder on the server (and we hope the same student doesn't log in on two Macs at once) or on the local disk that is not otherwise used. Has anybody tried this or can anybody advise me on which of the two locations would be best for the SETI data files?

The SETI application itself would be resident in the Applications folder of the boot disk image and/or the local disk. Would it matter which one I use? Either would work if you launched it manually, but I'm not sure which would work when it is used as a screensaver.

wdlove

Feb 18, 2004, 10:00 PM

I'm really not sure what SETI is about. Since I have my first 2 units with folding that concept makes sense to me now. My thought on the subject of the 2 programs is that if we are to move into the red zone, all members on this forum should concentrate on folding only.

Doctor Q, from your comment about, do you have some real concerns about leaving a Power Mac Hard Disk running 24/4? ;)

Doctor Q

Feb 18, 2004, 10:53 PM

My comments about the hard disk are based on the assumption that the life of the disk will be longer if it gets to spin down in between the times that I really use the system, as opposed to having it running all the time if SETI writes to its status file every 60 seconds. I'm willing to donate idle CPU time, but not if the elapsed time MTBF (mean time between failure) of my disk will be vastly shorter. I think the same would be true for the teachers with idle computers at school.

MrMacMan

Feb 19, 2004, 02:18 AM

wdlove -- They are 2 very different projects Folding and SETI are.

Some people feel that it is more worth the time to try and find Alien like (SETI) while others would like to cure dieases (folding)...

While yet others support both teams by allowing their Os 9 and under machines run SETI while the Os X and above machines run folding which support MacRumors even more.

:D

(Hope I wasn't biased)

--MrMacMan

shemp9999

Feb 19, 2004, 02:27 AM

i used to put cycles toward finding (and alerting) our alien overlords, then i remembered the local overlords were bad enough.

fight disease.

Doctor Q

Feb 19, 2004, 02:36 AM

From my reading of the FAQs, I've concluded that you can't contribute to folding if your Mac isn't running it most of the time. With data sets that time out in a matter of days, a "weekend warrior" Mac that's on now and then but not for long continuous periods may not finish its work units before they time out.

Am I misunderstanding how it works?

wdlove

Feb 19, 2004, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by MrMacman
wdlove -- They are 2 very different projects Folding and SETI are.

Some people feel that it is more worth the time to try and find Alien like (SETI) while others would like to cure diseases (folding)...

:D

(Hope I wasn't biased)

--MrMacMan

Thank you for the explanation MrMacman. Since I'm a nurse, it means a lot to be assisting in research to fight diseases an find new cures. I also feel an accomplishment by helping the team. :)

Rower_CPU

Feb 19, 2004, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Doctor Q
From my reading of the FAQs, I've concluded that you can't contribute to folding if your Mac isn't running it most of the time. With data sets that time out in a matter of days, a "weekend warrior" Mac that's on now and then but not for long continuous periods may not finish its work units before they time out.

Am I misunderstanding how it works?

http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/faq.html#run.WUlimit

Folks-
Lets not turn this into another F@H vs SETI debate.

Doctor Q

Feb 19, 2004, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Lets not turn this into another F@H vs SETI debate. Sorry. But thanks for answering. I've been on the SETI team for over 500 units and my thoughts about devoting more machines and more CPU time for either project are based on my technical questions about disk accesses, timeouts, and netbooting.

Rower_CPU

Feb 19, 2004, 04:37 PM

jbeetz

Feb 19, 2004, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Doctor Q
Sorry. But thanks for answering. I've been on the SETI team for over 500 units and my thoughts about devoting more machines and more CPU time for either project are based on my technical questions about disk accesses, timeouts, and netbooting.

I'm not familiar with SETI anymore (was, but that was a while ago) but the client version of FAH allows you to set the frequency at which the program will "checkpoint" itself and save it's work to disk. I think the default is 15 minutes. The checkpoint is the place where the program will restart folding if for some reason it is terminated. So you can control to some extent the disk activity. Incidently, powering down disk drives has historically been done for power saving reasons, not MTBF. I don't think that has changed, but could be wrong.

As for how much CPU time you need for a WU, it depends on what kind of computers you have. Faster is obviously better. What do you have available?

The netboot question has come up before, I don't recall what the resolution was, if there was one. From the Stanford FAQ

Can I run both the screen saver and console version at the same time? What happens if I run two console versions at the same time?

ONLY if you install in different directories. Also, DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT just copy the files from one directory to each other. This will cause our server to get confused, and 1) you won't get credit for the work you do, and 2) it will be no use for science. Instead, run the install program twice into each directory. If you have already copied the program into multiple directories and are trying to run it, find the client.cfg file and delete the "userid=xxxxxxxx" line. Next time it connects to F@H, it should reset the client.cfg file, and all should be well.

While this is talking about multiple installations on a single machine, the implication is that the servers need something in the client.cfg file to tell individual computers apart. Thus, if every one of your machines starts with an identical boot image AND you can't have unique FAH directories with unique client.cfg files, you may end up "confusing their server".

Doctor Q

Feb 19, 2004, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by jbeetz
I'm not familiar with SETI anymore (was, but that was a while ago) but the client version of FAH allows you to set the frequency at which the program will "checkpoint" itself and save it's work to disk. I think the default is 15 minutes. The checkpoint is the place where the program will restart folding if for some reason it is terminated. So you can control to some extent the disk activity.Since my G4 never crashes (I explained to my Mac that crashes are against my policy, and it politely complied), I can presumably set it to checkpoint every 24 hours or more and not worry about disk usage.Incidently, powering down disk drives has historically been done for power saving reasons, not MTBF. I don't think that has changed, but could be wrong.It stands to reason that starting up and spinning down is part of the wear and tear on a disk drive, and is actually worse than leaving it running for short periods in between times of usage. I imagine it is like a lightbulb. You get a certain number of hours out of it. If you leave it on for hours, then off for hours, you probably get the most life out of it. If you leave it on all the time, you'll get less. And if you turn it on and off constantly, you'll get less. Since I don't have a notebook Mac, I'm not worried about power consumption by the disk drive, which is another tradeoff for iBook and PowerBook users.As for how much CPU time you need for a WU, it depends on what kind of computers you have. Faster is obviously better. What do you have available?Dual 1.25GHz Power Mac G4. I can do a SETI unit in 3 hours.The netboot question has come up before, I don't recall what the resolution was, if there was one. From the Stanford FAQ...
Thanks. I run two CLI SETIs and understand its processing and ID and status file usage. Folding is probably similar in this respect. I think the approach with the best chance is if I try to have the data file on each student computer's local disk, not the netboot image and not the home folder on the server.

wdlove

Feb 19, 2004, 07:53 PM

t stands to reason that starting up and spinning down is part of the wear and tear on a disk drive, and is actually worse than leaving it running for short periods in between times of usage. I imagine it is like a lightbulb. You get a certain number of hours out of it. If you leave it on for hours, then off for hours, you probably get the most life out of it. If you leave it on all the time, you'll get less. And if you turn it on and off constantly, you'll get less. Since I don't have a notebook Mac, I'm not worried about power consumption by the disk drive, which is another tradeoff for iBook and PowerBook users.
by Doctor Q.

In regards to a Power Mac, what are your thoughts with continuous running of the disk drive? In your opinion is there an optimum way for an on/off ratio? As of now my G4 has been running about 36 hours straight. My G4 is 3 1/2 years old.

Doctor Q

Feb 19, 2004, 09:22 PM

I don't know. I've been asking more questions than I can answer and my assumptions are only guesswork. Maybe macintouch (http://www.macintouch.com) has some info about this topic.

The disk drive issue is probably a good subject for a new thread in the hardware forum. After searching for previous threads about the topic, of course.

shemp9999

Feb 19, 2004, 10:18 PM

re:netboot -- this is a linux example. (i never used netboot, it's probably wildly structurally divergent from nfs-mounted home dirs. anyway)

i'm running 34 fah clients from one home dir (i have a .fah folder and 34 fah# folders inside it).

my home dir is mounted by the machines automatically when needed (nfs). so basically, my home dir is mounted on 17 linux boxes full time.

i thought of running on local drives, but it's so much easier to keep track of the linux boxen this way (since they don't run web servers, i can't do the 'ln -s' into the web dir trick i use on the macs to make the fah data more available remotely. i can run shell scripts, aliases and cron from any one linux box (like mine) and process data for all the procs. (i still had to rsh and set up 17 crons to do the actual fah start scheduling on each machine)

each proc has a unique id because i set them up individually (i make the dir, copy the client binary only and then run ./FAH4Console-Linux.exe -local -configonly and set the crontab for each proc)

RE:HD Access -- i think uptime and sleep/no sleep is a personal preference. i've had machines running for years with no failures - but sometimes not (i do back up my home dir nightly now).

my dual 500 G4 has run 'continuously' for 3 1/2 years. it's been running fah 24/7 since early december at full bore. the G5, too. and my work mac. in fact, work macs are not allowed to sleep. well, either are home macs. and i run them all hard, all the time. i'm sick.

here's the g4's uptime - i added some software updates recently, but you can see each proc is fully utilized and it has been up for 12 days.

bat:~ admin$ uptime
18:32 up 12 days, 4:54, 2 users, load averages: 2.00 2.00 2.00

before you accept my word, remember that i'm not afraid to lose _some_ data, i do back up alot of stuff and frequently, and i do all my own hardware swapping/repairing. historically, i've constantly had to reinstall my OS on my main mac because i get too jiggy with the cutting edge stuff. (yet the replacement G5 apple gave me has somehow survived all my schemings so far - knock on wood).

- hope this is of some good to you.

jbeetz

Feb 19, 2004, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by wdlove
by Doctor Q.

In regards to a Power Mac, what are your thoughts with continuous running of the disk drive? In your opinion is there an optimum way for an on/off ratio? As of now my G4 has been running about 36 hours straight. My G4 is 3 1/2 years old.

I wouldn't worry about the mean time between failure. If you check the websites of the big disk makers for mean time between failures (MTBF), you'll see numbers like 1.2 million hours. On average, these things break every... lessee, there are 8760 hours in a year, so you can expect your average enterprise disk to head for the great beyond once every 137 years of continuous operation. Of course, if you have 137 drives, you can likewise expect one of them to fail each year, which is one of the reasons why reliability is such a big deal to the disk drive makers.

Sure, these are numbers for enterprise drives, but for your personal computer running 24/7 for 5 years, you'll only put about 44000 hours on it. Chances are though, that ancient dog-o-a-puter will be gone well before then! Certainly you won't be able to get by with a mere 250 GB in a year or two anyway...

Just make dadgum sure you don't do anything that blocks up or otherwise impedes the cooling. That has a tendency to be fatal to electronics of all sorts, including disk drives.

MrMacMan

Feb 20, 2004, 03:01 AM

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Folks-
Lets not turn this into another F@H vs SETI debate.
Damn -- I was biased?

Drat I was trying to just inform... not flame...

Sorry SETI people!

wdlove -- You can turn off your machine... or even let it sleep... I mean I have my machine running for... 8 days currently but obviously there are problems with not restarting or letting your machine cool off.

Anything above 9 days for me and I let my machine atleast cool off for an hour.

Its a good machine to me. :D

--MrMacMan

wdlove

Feb 20, 2004, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by MrMacman
Damn -- I was biased?

wdlove -- You can turn off your machine... or even let it sleep... I mean I have my machine running for... 8 days currently but obviously there are problems with not restarting or letting your machine cool off.

Anything above 9 days for me and I let my machine atleast cool off for an hour.

Its a good machine to me. :D

--MrMacMan

Then in your opinion, I should do a shutdown of my Mac once a week? That would be easier to remember. I just want to do what is best for my Mac and Folding.

Off topic MrMacman, I have noticed recently that you are capitalizing all 3 M's. Which do you prefer?

Earendil

Feb 20, 2004, 04:59 PM

I have 170+ UW on the G4 1.25 PB, and another 260+ WU on the Bondi iMac and 7600 PowerMac(120mhz baby!).

For the fun of it-
G4 1.25ghz = 9 hr WU
G3 233mhz = 26 hr WU
604e 120mhz = 40+ hr WU

I was about to transfer over my UW from my previous dead team that I joined way back when. But I looked up my team for the fun of it...My Bungie Halo teal, started 4 years ago, is now ranked #137 in the Clubs :D

sorry guys..maybe I'll come in at the last minute to take the gold with you ;)

Tyler
Earendil

MrMacMan

Feb 21, 2004, 12:42 AM

wdlove -- Yeah I mean feel free to restart your machine or shut it down.

Your overall computer and OS needs a restart because I don't know, they become sluggish.

OffTopic -- I don't know really... It was once 'Mrmacman' just for lazyness, but by the time I registered it was 'MrMacman' but finally just for the cool look it has become 'MrMacMan'... Chose any, heck you could even call me Jeremiah, Miah or even Jeremy, I don't care.
:D (MrMacMan is fine)

Earendil -- Too bad, the SETI team would love your support!

Please reconsider!

Stelliform

Feb 22, 2004, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Stelliform
The gap has widened to 58000, I had to shut down the computers I was borrowing ;) but I was able to borrow another one for a bit.

I have to keep in mind how different the rules are regarding teams in SETI versus Folding. (In folding if you switch teams your points stay with the team, in SETI the points stay with you.) This accounts for the wild fluctuations in the SETI points.

With that being said I see the gap has narrowed to 51500. Macnn isn't responding at the moment, but I know we added a new person a day or so ago. 200 here we come!

Stelliform

Feb 25, 2004, 11:29 AM

Currently our gap to break top 200 stands at only 45000!

Also we just added a new member. Welcome Brushy! Thanks for the additional 1400 points!

Stelliform

Feb 27, 2004, 12:05 PM

Stelliform

Feb 29, 2004, 09:50 PM

We currently are only 40700 WU away from the top 200! And we have just added a new member who is new to SETI also. Welcome Think Mac!

By the way, is anybody out there reading or caring? :) I am feeling lonely in this SETI thread. ;)

I know Rower is plugging away with his two machines. He has a rate of 2.7 WU a day. Thanks for the help!

Rower_CPU

Mar 1, 2004, 01:39 AM

Doctor Q

Mar 1, 2004, 02:54 AM

You are not alone. I'm pedaling as fast as I can. Huff puff.

MrMacMan

Mar 1, 2004, 07:40 AM

Holy Work Units Batman! Engseld has just joined the team and added an amazing 4500 points!!!!

I would give a new state of the reaching 200, but unfortunately Seti top 200 stats are down now.... Unless anybody knows where else I can get that list....

Look at that graph jump!!! Thanks Engseld!!!!!

For the top 200 you can look here:
http://statsman.ww-testsites.co.uk/setistats/html/

And obvious MacNN for the rest:
http://teamstats.macnn.com/fold/stats.php?TID=3446&page=b5
:D

Stelliform

Mar 1, 2004, 01:11 PM

Awww, you guys do care..... <sniff> ;) :D

Rower and Doctor Q, out of 110 people actively producing for SETI MR, you guys are ranked 32 and 35 based on production. So evey little bit makes a big difference for the SETI team.

MrMacMan, thanks for the link, that is a new one for me, but unfortunately they do the top 200 overall teams. We are struggling to make the top 200 clubs list. :(

In other news, we have added yet another member!! Welcome Mark Borland! He brings another 379 WU to the team. That means in the last month new members have brought in 7500 WUs just by joining our team! Anybody out there who might have even given up on SETI and they have WU lingering, please join Team MR. We will put them to good use... :D

Doctor Q

Mar 1, 2004, 03:57 PM

And obvious MacNN for the rest:
http://teamstats.macnn.com/fold/stats.php?TID=3446&page=b5
:DFor SETI, I think you mean http://teamstats.macnn.com/seti1/stats.php?TID=3446&page=b5

Stelliform

Mar 1, 2004, 07:43 PM

For SETI, I think you mean http://teamstats.macnn.com/seti1/stats.php?TID=3446&page=b5

Actually this one...http://teamstats.macnn.com/seti1/stats.php?page=b1&TID=139691

:D

simX

Mar 1, 2004, 08:18 PM

Looks like we're gaining on the Top 200 spot... right now, we're in need of just a smidge over 40000 work units to put us up on the Top 200 Clubs list (40036 WUs needed, to be exact).

You guys really should put info about the MacRumors SETI team in your signatures so that people know about it! Publicity can only help us. :)

Stelliform

Mar 5, 2004, 02:33 PM

I think I have a bit of bad news. It appears that 200 won't be as easy as we hoped. It looks like a couple of groups have bumped ahead of us. We are now 46076 WU away from the 200th spot. :( I think we need to beef up production among our members to make the 200. (not to mention get some more members!)

So if anyone of you knows anyone running SETI (not for MR), tell them to ditch their old team, and join us! :)

Also I am posting this so we can use it as a benchmark. According to MacNN, we have produced 345 WU's in the last 24 hours. Our average rate is 348.84.

Lets see how much we can bring that up in the next week! :) I am also thinking about having a Super WU Weekend. I am going to see how many computers I can get to run at least one WU for me this weekend. (Friends, stuff like that...)

Keep up the WU production!

familyte

Mar 5, 2004, 02:56 PM

That makes sense, you wanted proof once and for all about the superiority of the Mac.
"Imagine waking up one day to find your Mac has solved a vexing scientific problem. While the cure to cancer, super-efficient solar power and ending world hunger are a ways off, you can combine your computing resources using Xgrid — and help usher in a new era of biological breakthroughs, rocket science and advanced models of scientific phenomena"

Apple > Xgrig (http://www.apple.com/acg/xgrid/)

Seems that I heard that Xgrid is workable with SETI. Does anyone know if this is true?

MrMacMan

Mar 6, 2004, 01:33 AM

For SETI, I think you mean http://teamstats.macnn.com/seti1/stats.php?TID=3446&page=b5

I could have sworn I posted the SETI one... not the folding one...

Huuhh... weird.

I haven't heard that the Xgrid works with SETI....

Stelliform

Mar 11, 2004, 08:50 AM

I still believe we can crack the top 200... We lost one member with 42 WU, but we have added a new member with 8 WU. Welcome to the team Matt!!!

On a more exciting note, we have more members in the red (http://teamstats.macnn.com/seti1/stats.php?page=a1&TID=139691) than ever. I am certain that the team is growing.

However our average daily stats has fallen to 334.88. (Last 24 hours was a poor 291. :(

simX

Apr 5, 2004, 07:41 PM

I think we're slowly gaining on that 200th Club Team spot. As of this moment (and I don't know when the stats pages are updated), the SETI servers say we're 35597 work units away from getting there. I think it would do us good if another story was posted to the front page about our SETI/Folding teams, since last time that really spiked our member/WU numbers.

applemacdude

Apr 5, 2004, 08:52 PM

Convince me why I should disband Team Accrc (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_182874.html) and join the Macrumors Team

Doctor Q

Apr 5, 2004, 09:11 PM

Convince me why my TEAM( c sig) should disband and join your team? ;)Pick your proverb: The more the merrier. There's safety in numbers. It takes a village. Your house is our house. Everybody loves a party. SETI loves company. A small stone gathers no moss.

OK, maybe I made a few of those up.

blue&whiteman

Apr 5, 2004, 09:50 PM

simX

Apr 6, 2004, 12:41 AM

I know a lot of people like seti and it is kinda cool. it makes so much more sense to support folding@home though because what they are doing actually helps people. not looks for aliens that may or may not be out there. :p

just saying..

Supporting SETI@home makes so much more sense because aliens are obviously going to be much more technologically advanced than us so they can offer us cures for all our disease once we find them. It's just a matter of finding them.

... :rolleyes:

blue&whiteman

Apr 6, 2004, 12:48 AM

haha! good answer! :p :confused: :) :rolleyes: :D

applemacdude

Apr 6, 2004, 09:52 AM

Yea but SETI works in OS 9 ...which I have machines that run it...

AngusB

Apr 8, 2004, 09:37 PM

Really guys, you can fold and SETI at the same time...if you have a dual 2.0...

mwaaaahaaahaahaaa

1 2.0Ghz, 1 Seti unit, 2hrs 47 min average.... smokin!!!

Angus

simX

Apr 19, 2004, 03:06 AM

We still need some more computing power to propel us up into the 200th club team spot. I'm looking at a 38324 WU gap right now, and it usually fluctuates between 35000 and 45000 depending on when the team stats and the top 200 club stats are updated. While it's good that we don't seem to be losing ground against the 200th club team, we aren't gaining any ground either!

Try and find all the power you can get so we can start to slowly gain on that 200th spot. (Alternatively, prod one of the administrators into mentioning the MacRumors SETI and Folding teams on the front page again. :) )

Doctor Q

Apr 19, 2004, 09:33 PM

It'll take a while to trickle down, but the newly announced iBooks and PowerBooks will find their way into members' hands and boost the average units they can contribute per day.

iPC

Apr 20, 2004, 02:09 PM

how about me...?

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_41136.html <--- BigBir3d & bigbir3d

start convincing guys!

avaag

Apr 30, 2004, 05:28 AM

Well guys I've become sympathetic to your plight and after almost deciding to join Team Anandtech I figured y'all had a better fight on your hands and trying to crack the top 200 seems funner than trying to hold onto 6th. Anyways I'm having a hard time joining your team. The pages keep coming back unable to display......anyone have any bright ideas??

Never mind finally got it :)

applemacdude

Apr 30, 2004, 10:41 AM

My team (see sig) would go on your team but u got to convince us

MrMacMan

Apr 30, 2004, 09:12 PM

Uhh tell me why that seens to be a completely different team other then MacRumors?

eh?

This is our page:
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_139691.html

Works for me.

pimentoLoaf

May 9, 2004, 05:04 PM

44th place & nearly 4 years crunching SETI -- of late, have been doing GIMPS via Virtual PC and Folding under osX -- but maybe I can kick my stats up to 1100 before 4th July :cool: to help out.

PyroTurtle

May 23, 2004, 04:05 AM

well, i had this really fun time with getting linux on an 800Mhz PowerMac...it's on my webpage at www.pyroturtle.com...that aside, i wanted to run distributed computing on it cause it's on 24/7

lo and behold, there's no way to run folding on PPC linux! but the nice people at seti have provided a binary for me! so, i'm back with at least one computer. i'll probably add another 800 tower this next week too...

then it's time to get that 4400 of mine folding....have fun guys, and please, someone remind me to put links to the team pages on my website!

slash8slash1

May 23, 2004, 05:31 AM

Me and my 53xx credits :cool:
This is the first time I've joined a team, good luck!

simX

Dec 7, 2005, 07:49 PM

... anyone still out there doing SETI@home stuff? I just started up again after seeing SETI@home had completely changed over to BOINC. We're actually in the top 300 teams too, so we're still not doing too badly. :)

kwajo.com

Dec 7, 2005, 08:00 PM

I used to do SETI back in its first year, but I've switched to Folding, it just seems more worthwhile

Dont Hurt Me

Dec 7, 2005, 08:21 PM

I used to do SETI back in its first year, but I've switched to Folding, it just seems more worthwhile
Good choice,
First An advance Alien civilization wouldnt have much to gain by communicating with primitives like us who are still killing each every day and have yet to master space travel.

Second An advance civilization wouldnt be using radio waves, heck radio is obsolete for us now and we havent even been using it 100 years why the heck would aliens be using this primitive stuff?

3rd the distance involved means they will never hear our reply.

4th Our own Freedom & Liberty loving U.S.Govt has gone to extremes to cover up & hide the subject matter of U.F.O.s on every level. Even to the point of hiding info from 60 years ago. WHY? Because the tech involved makes our tech look like stone knives and bearskins in comparison and there is nothing the control freaks in Govt & Military can do about it and they know it.

Counterfit

Dec 30, 2005, 09:20 PM

First An advance Alien civilization wouldnt have much to gain by communicating with primitives like us who are still killing each every day and have yet to master space travel.
So you don't think such a civilization would want to help us out?
Second An advance civilization wouldnt be using radio waves, heck radio is obsolete for us now and we havent even been using it 100 years why the heck would aliens be using this primitive stuff?
Radio is obsolete for long distance communication? You might want to inform NASA.

3rd the distance involved means they will never hear our reply. Oh, so you know their lifespan as well as their motivation?

4th Our own Freedom & Liberty loving U.S.Govt has gone to extremes to cover up & hide the subject matter of U.F.O.s on every level. Even to the point of hiding info from 60 years ago. WHY? Because the tech involved makes our tech look like stone knives and bearskins in comparison and there is nothing the control freaks in Govt & Military can do about it and they know it.
Don't believe everything you hear and see on the History and Discovery channels...

As for me, I started doing SETI@Home and now Einstein@Home (gravity well prediction I think) with BOINC Menubar. I'll gladly add F@H if/when they switch to it. Perhaps I should add the protein folding project that DOES use BOINC...

Eithanius

Dec 31, 2005, 02:46 AM

As for me, I started doing SETI@Home and now Einstein@Home (gravity well prediction I think) with BOINC Menubar. I'll gladly add F@H if/when they switch to it. Perhaps I should add the protein folding project that DOES use BOINC...

I'm pretty much in the same situation as you are, but now I've switched from SETI to Einstein, since my G5 1.9 on SETI has about the same output as my old P4 1.8, :( ....and Einstein utilises the Altivec instructions (beat the crap out of an AMD 3000+)... :D

As for Folding which has yet to be BOINCed, I would recommend Predictor@home instead....

~Shard~

Dec 31, 2005, 03:18 AM

I used to do SETI with my PC, but I haven't for years, and my G4 iMac probably can't contribute too much. (Yes, I know every little bit helps... ;))

Regardless, aliens would not communicate with us using radio waves - they utilize a much higher form of energy which we don't really grasp as of yet. Plus, they have already made contact with us, so any results from SETI would just end up telling us what some of us already know. :cool:

trainguy77

Dec 31, 2005, 03:11 PM

I used to do SETI with my PC, but I haven't for years, and my G4 iMac probably can't contribute too much. (Yes, I know every little bit helps... ;))

Yes every little bit helps....would you be instrested in folding for team macrumors? ;) I have my 1 ghz emac folding!

Counterfit

Dec 31, 2005, 04:24 PM

As for Folding which has yet to be BOINCed, I would recommend Predictor@home instead....
Yeah, I added it right after I posted. I also added Rosetta, which is similar, but for other diseases. And I was wrong about what Einstein is. It searches for gravity signals from pulsars.

~Shard~

Dec 31, 2005, 05:00 PM

Yes every little bit helps....would you be instrested in folding for team macrumors? ;) I have my 1 ghz emac folding!

Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll pass, at least as it pertains to SETI. ;) Due to my involvement in some Top Secret initiatives in a previous career, I am aware of some knowledge which I eluded to in my above post which makes me realize that although the premise and intent of SETI is excellent in principle, it is somewhat going about things the wrong way. :o Not to offend anyone of course, but for me, personally, doing SETI just isn't necessary knowing what I know. :cool:

If there are other folding initiatives at MacRumors though, I would be interested in hearing about them - I must admit I have never really investigated what else is being done in this respect. :cool: