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joepunk
Aug 22, 2008, 07:13 PM
I'm not sure I should even have mentioned it much less link to the story.

Meet Mayra Lizbeth Rosales (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/22/obese.woman.ap/index.html), 27. She's so fat that she's totally immobile and constantly needs medical care. Actually, strike that-the 1,000 pound woman was just mobile enough to beat her two year-old nephew to death.



iPhil
Aug 22, 2008, 07:18 PM
Cut a hole in the bedroom wall and put the aunt in the hospital wing of the jail.. done deal.. :o

blackfox
Aug 22, 2008, 07:36 PM
Sad. Bizarre.

mactastic
Aug 22, 2008, 07:39 PM
People that do stuff like that to children infuriate me to no end.

At least she's not a flight risk, eh?

bradl
Aug 22, 2008, 07:42 PM
People that do stuff like that to children infuriate me to no end.


+1


At least she's not a flight risk, eh?

Too bad the child died instead of her. Otherwise this would have made a great candidate for a Darwin Award.

BL.

rdowns
Aug 22, 2008, 07:51 PM
Sickening. Go after the mother.

JW8725
Aug 22, 2008, 09:23 PM
forget jail, just put her to death and feed Africa. Sorted.

bbotte
Aug 22, 2008, 09:33 PM
Put her down like the fat sow she is.

Mac-Addict
Aug 22, 2008, 09:40 PM
Rip open her roof, get zoo equipment to lift her out of her house and throw the fat bitch in jail and leave her to rot there.

forget jail, just put her to death and feed Africa. Sorted.
Legend.

Sun Baked
Aug 22, 2008, 09:54 PM
You sure she wasn't hunting for food. http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4184

Elven
Aug 22, 2008, 10:40 PM
Nah, lock her in the room, barricade it, one meal a day... two sausages and twenty chips, with 2litres of water.

Worst punishment possible eh ;)

iJohnHenry
Aug 22, 2008, 10:42 PM
A total waste of skin.

A Hell of a lot of skin.

There is no reason on Earth, or in Heaven, for this woman to continue.

Elven
Aug 22, 2008, 10:43 PM
Can you imagine putting a grenade in that room?

It's rain in the Uk the guts.

JW8725
Aug 22, 2008, 10:46 PM
this thread may get locked by the way.

OutThere
Aug 22, 2008, 10:55 PM
I think we have a winner for single most worthless person in the world...

iJohnHenry
Aug 22, 2008, 11:10 PM
I think we have a winner for single most worthless person in the world...

You would think so. Any sentient person would.

But, there are others, who would decry her demise.

"God had a reason for her existence."

****ed if I know what it is though??

benthewraith
Aug 22, 2008, 11:12 PM
I think we have a winner for single most worthless person in the world...

There have been quite a few this year that don't deserve the air they breathe.

Sun Baked
Aug 22, 2008, 11:13 PM
She'd make a great drug mule if you can get her to move.

Should be able to hold at least 100lbs of meth internally.

sushi
Aug 22, 2008, 11:16 PM
Sad story all the way around.

Trying to imagine that big of a person. :eek:

LeahM
Aug 22, 2008, 11:44 PM
Should be able to hold at least 100lbs of meth internally.

Even externally, I mean you could stick it in her rolls.

I want to know who feeds these kinds of people.

blackfox
Aug 23, 2008, 12:00 AM
I think most can agree with the heinous nature of this crime. I am not sure, however, that the comments need to be so vicious...

I am curious as to the backstory, as the mother was charged for leaving the child with her sister - so there might be a history of violent behavior or something - though it could be related solely to her lack of mobility.

nevertheless, can we tone it down a bit?

LeahM
Aug 23, 2008, 12:20 AM
I think most can agree with the heinous nature of this crime. I am not sure, however, that the comments need to be so vicious...

I am curious as to the backstory, as the mother was charged for leaving the child with her sister - so there might be a history of violent behavior or something - though it could be related solely to her lack of mobility.

nevertheless, can we tone it down a bit?

Maybe you could have said that to her before she beat an innocent child to death. Nothing justifies what she'd done and she deserves everything that is coming to her

noaccess
Aug 23, 2008, 01:12 AM
Put her down like the fat sow she is.

throw the fat bitch in jail and leave her to rot there.

A total waste of skin.

A Hell of a lot of skin.

There is no reason on Earth, or in Heaven, for this woman to continue.

Can you imagine putting a grenade in that room?

It's rain in the Uk the guts.

forget jail, just put her to death and feed Africa. Sorted.

You sure she wasn't hunting for food. http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4184

She'd make a great drug mule if you can get her to move.

Should be able to hold at least 100lbs of meth internally.
She's a horrible person because she killed a 2 year-old, not because she's morbidly obese.

sushi
Aug 23, 2008, 12:47 PM
She's a horrible person because she killed a 2 year-old, not because she's morbidly obese.
Good point.

Easy to focus on the obesity, but forget the death of the 2 year old.

obeygiant
Aug 23, 2008, 01:13 PM
I'm not sure I should even have mentioned it much less link to the story.

Meet Mayra Lizbeth Rosales (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/22/obese.woman.ap/index.html), 27. She's so fat that she's totally immobile and constantly needs medical care. Actually, strike that-the 1,000 pound woman was just mobile enough to beat her two year-old nephew to death.

Well put her in jail so she can be rehabilitated and set free! :rolleyes:

OscarTheGrouch
Aug 23, 2008, 02:01 PM
I think we have a winner for single most worthless person in the world...

She would count as atleast 5 most worthless people..

PlaceofDis
Aug 23, 2008, 02:07 PM
I think most can agree with the heinous nature of this crime. I am not sure, however, that the comments need to be so vicious...

I am curious as to the backstory, as the mother was charged for leaving the child with her sister - so there might be a history of violent behavior or something - though it could be related solely to her lack of mobility.

nevertheless, can we tone it down a bit?

thanks, and i'll have to agree with you.

its a very terrible and sad story, yes. but the pure hate and mob mentality in this thread scare me.

skunk
Aug 23, 2008, 02:12 PM
Maybe you could have said that to her before she beat an innocent child to death. Nothing justifies what she'd done and she deserves everything that is coming to herFirstly, she has not been tried for the alleged crime, let alone found guilty, and secondly neither you nor anyone else here has the first idea of the circumstances. This lynch-mob stuff is frankly sickening.

OscarTheGrouch
Aug 23, 2008, 02:24 PM
Firstly, she has not been tried for the alleged crime, let alone found guilty, and secondly neither you nor anyone else here has the first idea of the circumstances. This lynch-mob stuff is frankly sickening.

It doesn't seem like there is much doubt about if she has done it considering she has been brought up on first degree murder charges. I think everyone is speaking as if she HAS done it. Had she not done it then she can continue to live.

skunk
Aug 23, 2008, 02:39 PM
It doesn't seem like there is much doubt about if she has done it considering she has been brought up on first degree murder charges. I think everyone is speaking as if she HAS done it. Had she not done it then she can continue to live.There is not really much point in having an expensive legal system if guilt is assumed before trial. Let her be tried, and let her be imprisoned if found guilty.

PlaceofDis
Aug 23, 2008, 02:49 PM
Had she not done it then she can continue to live.

even if she is found guilty there is nothing gained in taking her life. only more loss.

OscarTheGrouch
Aug 23, 2008, 02:52 PM
even if she is found guilty there is nothing gained in taking her life. only more loss.

i have a difference of opinion here when it comes to crimes against children such as this.

PlaceofDis
Aug 23, 2008, 02:55 PM
i have a difference of opinion here when it comes to crimes against children such as this.

killing anyone for any reason is wrong. plain and simple. taking a person's life because they took one makes you no better than them. revenge killing doesn't make anything better. and the last thing that is good is allowing the government to kill its own citizens, no matter the crime.

but hey, thats just my opinion.

OscarTheGrouch
Aug 23, 2008, 03:01 PM
killing anyone for any reason is wrong. plain and simple. taking a person's life because they took one makes you no better than them. revenge killing doesn't make anything better. and the last thing that is good is allowing the government to kill its own citizens, no matter the crime.

but hey, thats just my opinion.

that's fine, you are welcome to yours, i just feel that there are some crimes that are committed that the person that commits them loses their right to live. Especially those against children.

Killyp
Aug 23, 2008, 03:06 PM
That's disgusting, in fact one of the worst I've read when it comes to extreme child abuse...

However, as it's something I hold kinda close to me, could people please bear in mind that there is almost certainly serious mental illness here, and while I'm not saying it rights her wrongs, it could at least go part of the way of explaining why she did it.

OscarTheGrouch
Aug 23, 2008, 03:09 PM
That's disgusting, in fact one of the worst I've read when it comes to extreme child abuse...

However, as it's something I hold kinda close to me, could people please bear in mind that there is almost certainly serious mental illness here, and while I'm not saying it rights her wrongs, it could at least go part of the way of explaining why she did it.

i have a worse one

http://www.tampabay.com/features/humaninterest/article750838.ece


It's a long read and quite disturbing.

iJohnHenry
Aug 23, 2008, 03:57 PM
Now will skunk speak to the rights of the dead child?? :mad:

It's a long read and quite disturbing.

Thanks, but once disturbed, twice shy. ;)

ucfgrad93
Aug 23, 2008, 03:58 PM
that's fine, you are welcome to yours, i just feel that there are some crimes that are committed that the person that commits them loses their right to live. Especially those against children.

Agreed. They still have their right to a trial and all that, but in the end they have no right to live if found guilty.

Iscariot
Aug 23, 2008, 07:20 PM
Agreed. They still have their right to a trial and all that, but in the end they have no right to live if found guilty.

Everyone has the right to live, no matter what they've done. No individual and especially no government should have the right to take that away.

skunk
Aug 23, 2008, 07:36 PM
Now will skunk speak to the rights of the dead child?? A dead child has no rights.

stubeeef
Aug 23, 2008, 08:26 PM
i have a worse one

http://www.tampabay.com/features/humaninterest/article750838.ece


It's a long read and quite disturbing.

That was an amazing read!!
The NEW parents are angels on earth. No question.
I hope to read more in the future about her journey and growth. Thanks for that haunting tale. I stopped at one point and got my 9 yr old daughter some ice cream, she paid me with one kiss on my right temple-I am the worlds richest man!

Everyone has the right to live, no matter what they've done. No individual and especially no government should have the right to take that away.

While I am personally against the death penalty, I do believe this circumstance makes this lady lose some rights, like her freedom.

Iscariot
Aug 23, 2008, 09:01 PM
While I am personally against the death penalty, I do believe this circumstance makes this lady lose some rights, like her freedom.

I completely abhor violence against anyone, especially children. If this woman is indeed found guilty after a fair trial, then it is my hope that she will receive a fitting sentence. Likewise to the mother. If mental illness is involved, then hopefully it will be thrust into the limelight and properly examined, so perhaps crimes of that nature can be addressed and prevented.

iJohnHenry
Aug 23, 2008, 09:02 PM
A dead child has no rights.

Sorry, but from my perch that is one sick response.

skunk
Aug 23, 2008, 09:14 PM
Sorry, but from my perch that is one sick response.Perhaps you could dismount from your high horse long enough to give a meaningful explanation of the way in which a dead body enjoys any rights at all. This is pompous and sentimental rubbish.

iJohnHenry
Aug 23, 2008, 09:24 PM
Pompous, no.

High-horse?? I hardly think so, given the current company.

Sentimental, you ****ing bet.

skunk
Aug 23, 2008, 09:26 PM
Pompous, no.

High-horse?? I hardly think so, given the current company.

Sentimental, you ****ing bet.That's a "no", then, is it?

t0mat0
Aug 23, 2008, 09:33 PM
Isn't it called retrospective rights being abused?
And there are rights for corpses I'd imagine, though it's more about charging the live person who's abusing them presumably.
http://www.explosm.net/comics/161/
The kid had rights.

skunk
Aug 23, 2008, 09:36 PM
The kid had rights.Thanks for that. :rolleyes:

iJohnHenry
Aug 23, 2008, 09:46 PM
Appoint me Official Guardian for the poor child, and I will show you some action.

stubeeef
Aug 23, 2008, 09:49 PM
There are many victims here, while the young child is certainly the biggest victim. I am sure that his mother feels victimized regardless of the charges against her.
While I don't know of the rights of the dead, he did have rights before he died. And there are the rights of society to punish CONVICTED criminals of crimes against that society they deem fit to prosecute.
This particular scenario is a tragedy on multiple levels.

skunk
Aug 24, 2008, 07:09 AM
There are many victims here, while the young child is certainly the biggest victim. I am sure that his mother feels victimized regardless of the charges against her.
While I don't know of the rights of the dead, he did have rights before he died. And there are the rights of society to punish CONVICTED criminals of crimes against that society they deem fit to prosecute.
This particular scenario is a tragedy on multiple levels.A post of yours I can agree with entirely. Hallelujah! :)

Appoint me Official Guardian for the poor child, and I will show you some action.The child is dead, and you are quite obviously unfit to dispense justice.

blackfox
Aug 24, 2008, 04:54 PM
I have heard a loud "whooosh" reading the last 10 posts or so...

iJohnHenry
Aug 24, 2008, 05:51 PM
The child is dead,

Oh well, just another life lost.

you are quite obviously unfit to dispense justice.

Your version, absolutely.

TuffLuffJimmy
Aug 24, 2008, 05:54 PM
In my view there is probably some mental retardation to the severely over weight woman; how else could she get so gigantic? So to all of you crying for her head on a pike: Maybe you should look a little more into the case before you pass judgement.

skunk
Aug 24, 2008, 06:00 PM
Your version, absolutely.Hooray for vicarious vengeance. Makes a body feel good, doesn't it?

blackfox
Aug 24, 2008, 06:03 PM
It is interesting to read the comments in this thread in the context of the thread involving "mankinds advance"...perhaps I was too optimistic.

iJohnHenry
Aug 24, 2008, 06:05 PM
Hooray for vicarious vengeance. Makes a body feel good, doesn't it?

It amazes me that you could turn my post, about representing the dear departed, into vengeance.

Astounding.

It is interesting to read the comments in this thread in the context of the thread involving "mankinds advance"...perhaps I was too optimistic.

Welcome to the World of cynics. It nice in here.

Gray-Wolf
Aug 24, 2008, 06:08 PM
Her punishment is already meted out. At 1000 lbs, she can not leave her house, or do much of anything. Prison guards are not even needed. If they managed to get her into a cell, who'd picking up the tab to take care of her for the rest of her life, which with her weight, will be short.

skunk
Aug 24, 2008, 06:21 PM
It amazes me that you could turn my post, about representing the dear departed, into vengeance.

Astounding.Indeed. Where could I have got that idea?

Silver-Fox
Aug 24, 2008, 06:25 PM
stuff like this pisses me off

leave her to rot, she killed a 2 year old, yet there still helping her, ****** her

not to mention she is a waste of space, sickening

skunk
Aug 24, 2008, 06:28 PM
stuff like this pisses me off

leave her to rot, she killed a 2 year old, yet there still helping her, ****** her

not to mention she is a waste of space, sickeningSome semblance of due process, hell, even a trial, would be appropriate, I feel, even in this instance.

Gray-Wolf
Aug 24, 2008, 06:52 PM
The closest she would get to a courtroom, would be closed circuit TV. It's a shame family and friends ever let her get in the position she is in. And yes, LET. You see your friend hurting themselves, you help out and get them help.

iJohnHenry
Aug 24, 2008, 07:46 PM
(Backs away from the ensuing carnage.)