New iPod Nano, iPod Touch, iTunes 8.0, and Blu-Ray in 10.5.6?

[amac4me]

I say any updates are a few weeks away. The earliest that we'll see iPod refreshes will be in the first or second week of September.

[edd9532]

This is totally fake I saw one of these at the Mall the other day them people In the stands in the middle sell them there just botleg iPods

[clu10]

This is totally fake I saw one of these at the Mall the other day them people In the stands in the middle sell them there just botleg iPods

did it look like this pic
http://www.ipodgear.com/upload/2006/04/nanoc.jpg

--------FAKE---------------------------------------REAL----------------

lol my bro owns a ChinaPod

[beeh]

The new Nano will be just like the 3rd gen. but have a screen 2x the size and no wheel - it will have touch controls. Like a mini iPod Touch. 8GB only at first. I know this the same way everyone else does - I'm guessing...

[clu10]

The new Nano will be just like the 3rd gen. but have a screen 2x the size and no wheel - it will have touch controls. Like a mini iPod Touch. 8GB only at first. I know this the same way everyone else does - I'm guessing...

that's complete bs, the nano has only 4gb and 8gb options, and the touch starts off with 8gb option, thers no point in buying a 8g mini touch if i can get a full touch for 8g, the only thing you pay for is a smaller form factor which would be difficult to use with touch controls.

http://skattertech.com/media/2007/09/new-ipod-family.jpg

and the size of a 3rd gen nano x2 is basically the size of a touch.......sooo, why would they make a ipod identical to the touch,name it differently a sell it for a cheaper price?

and why are ppl so eager for the click wheel to go away, i like the click wheel.

EDIT:sorry, but even if the SCREEN is larger(not the product) you still have to count the single button, and a bezel around it, and what do we have............ itouch that is SLIGHTLY smaller, by like a centimeter

[TuffLuffJimmy]

The new Nano will be just like the 3rd gen. but have a screen 2x the size and no wheel - it will have touch controls. Like a mini iPod Touch. 8GB only at first. I know this the same way everyone else does - I'm guessing...

I'm glad you're not the one who designs iPods then.

[Jesstastic]

Just give me my iPod touch with at least 80GB, i'll even take 60GB. I don't care if it's "fat". :/

[.Chris]

how do we know there wasn't even a prototype iPhone w/ front facing camera? he might have been right... just too early before :apple: finalized the 3G?

Exactly. Same for video conferencing.... that leaked photoof the video conferencing may be true it just had problems so we will have to wait another year or 6 months or what ever

very few people care about BRD, in fact if it wasn't for ps3 it would be deader than hddvd.

That may be true on computers, but a lot care for it as a external box for the TV.,

HD-DVD is already dead. Blu-ray already won the formatt war and will become the new standard the next few years,,,

Blu-ray runs on more then the PS3. PS3 is made by sony, same guys who make blu-ray.

We have a 1399 Sony Blu-Ray player (the highest end model) hooked up to our 65" DLP TV and man i truly see and hear the diference...

Yep. The classic is the iPod, in my opinion. If you just want to get an iPod to listen to music, like most do, the classic is the best choice. I prefer to navigate through the music menus through physical buttons, as it just feels better and I can usually find what I want quicker. Furthermore, one thing that always annoys me on the touch is that in cover flow, if you want to get to an artist, you have to flick your finger like a maniac, only to go right past the one you wanted. With the classic and the nano you simply move your finger in a circle, and it's one continuous movement, meaning you can scrol thorugh albums quicker.

However, don't get me wrong, the touch is a great device for apps etc.

As for the pictured nano, I don't think it's legit. At least, I hope it's not. I don't like the idea of the whole iPod being rounded. If Apple is going to do any rounding, they'll do it to the back of the iPod, but not to the front. (like the iPhone)

I perfer the touch because the things you can do such as get on line, app support, itunes wi-fi music store (only wish you can download and preview videos and podcasts to). I agree the touch needs a facelift. and possable a 64GB verson along with a price drop.

BTW, I've seen the iphones and it seems the color, contrast and brightess are diferent then the touch. (better on the iphone) could it be just the model i got ot is it totally different? If so, I hope the touch gets the same screen res. as the iphone

I think the 'new' nano looks awesesome. Should the iTunes thing hold true... can't wait for the updates. Skinnable interface anyone?

Not just for itunes but for the ipods. I want to chose my own background for the touch along with skins. "Premium" skins can be bought from itunes for 99 cents.

I agree with the nano,. people said the same thing about the fat nano. you can never please anyone

This Tuesday, anyone?

There is no way Apple can please anyone with the time it has left in 2008.

Apple will not upgrade the whole iPod lineup and the whole computer lineup all at once!

So yes, some people will be pleased, but the majority who didn't get what they wanted will be disappointed. MWSF is coming soon though...

whos to say they wont "upgrade" everything at once?

and "apple cant please everyone" hence why it wont be this tuesday. This will be a planned event.....

[beeh]

that's complete bs, the nano has only 4gb and 8gb options, and the touch starts off with 8gb option, thers no point in buying a 8g mini touch if i can get a full touch for 8g, the only thing you pay for is a smaller form factor which would be difficult to use with touch controls.

http://skattertech.com/media/2007/09/new-ipod-family.jpg

and the size of a 3rd gen nano x2 is basically the size of a touch.......sooo, why would they make a ipod identical to the touch,name it differently a sell it for a cheaper price?

and why are ppl so eager for the click wheel to go away, i like the click wheel.

EDIT:sorry, but even if the SCREEN is larger(not the product) you still have to count the single button, and a bezel around it, and what do we have............ itouch that is SLIGHTLY smaller, by like a centimeter

Yes, it is complete bs, but would be what I want. ...same reason Apple doesn't still have a 1GB or 2GB Nano - I don't think the 8GB Touch will be around forever - I bet it goes away this redesign...but that's just my guess.

[clu10]

Yes, it is complete bs, but would be what I want. ...same reason Apple doesn't still have a 1GB or 2GB Nano - I don't think the 8GB Touch will be around forever - I bet it goes away this redesign...but that's just my guess.

yes but the demention that are expected are already about the size of the current touch, all your asking for is just a cheaper low end ipod touch

[kyledouglas]

I think that sometime in the near future, all iPods will be equal, they will all be like the iPod touch, why, because Apple knows that if they did this, more iPods would be bought, and more apps will be purchased. Apple will then have a radio service like pandora, and once you hear a song you like, its a click away from owning. And, wireless syncing will become a huge priority.

[Lesser Evets]

I think that sometime in the near future, all iPods will be equal, they will all be like the iPod touch...

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the touch size/interface takes over the whole line within 2 years with a giant spread of sizes - 8gb, 16gb with wifi, 32gb, 64 gb, then classics with hard drives above 120gb.

The 'touch' interface will get cheaper and cheaper to make since they are selling millions per year already. All they need do is make it price accessible at a lower range, possibly by taking out wifi/apps for a nano range of iPods under $200.

The silly little shuffles should really be under $25. How much further can you expand those before they become too clunky to use? Shuffling through 4000 songs is NOT fun. It should settle very cheaply as a bone for the kids, ushering people into Apple products and functionality.

[UMHurricanes34]

I'd definitely buy that nano. Especially if it was the aluminum with black click wheel like the photo. Would go nicely with the soon the be released notebook redesigns :)

[kyledouglas]

All they need do is make it price accessible at a lower range, possibly by taking out wifi/apps for a nano range of iPods under $200.

Shuffling through 4000 songs is NOT fun.

The apps will be the very reason apple pushes this type of business model, they can take the loses, because its an investment, they know that they will get money back in apps. And, the more people using the device, the more people writing code, the more apps that the consumer will want to buy. If they removed wifi, it would remove to many features, and would block the main way for apple to sell apps.

I hate the shuffle, however, if it shuffled in an intelligent way, I wouldn't mind listening to 4000 songs in shuffle.

[messedkid]

I personally think that the first-generation iPod nano had the best design. If this picture is real, than the nano has really gone downhill looks-wise since then.

I agree 100%.

The first gen iPod Nanos are the best looking Nano.
Although the glossy case showed fingerprints, and scratches way more than the newer aluminum cases, You just can't beat shiney! :D

Our households iPods, ranked in my own opinion of sexyness:

1) 1st gen iPod Nano (black) 1gb
2) iPod "Classic" (black) 80gb (the first video ipods after they introduced the name "Classic"..not sure what gen to call it)
3) 2nd gen iPod Shuffle (silver) 1gb (we have two, mine and my moms she got for buying a newspaper subscription)


ironically, I use the shuffle most frequently. :)
I only use the Classic for the new games, and watching movies on long car trips.
The nano is now used as eye candy. :)

[minik]

I agree. If it's real, Apple Legal would have asked to take it down.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

I agree. If it's real, Apple Legal would have asked to take it down.

not true. There was a keyboard leak that apple legal never asked to take down and there was an iphone 3G leak that wasn't ever requested to bring down.

[Lershac]

I agree. If it's real, Apple Legal would have asked to take it down.

Like they asked them to take down the pics of the plastic backs? They are inconsistent in their takedowns...

[.Chris]

its imposable for them to take it down as its already on the net, already downloaded by people and already spread over a lot of websites so just because the main site that leaked it took them down doesnt mean its gone from the net for good.

what about those leaked "fat nanos" were those shots asked to be taken down. if so, then this may just as well it takes time and doesnt happen over night

[wpc33]

That thing looks like quasi-futuristic crap. If curved screens were so good, why are they extinct? Why would Apple step backwards?
As far as body, why would Apple give a nano curvature, and limit it to the horizontal? The 3G, the Air, and the leaked, upcoming MacBooks, all have curvature in both directions. If this were for sale at a kiosk in Chinatown, I would giggle. Tell some people Apple is making this fugly turd, and people flex their Mastercards.
Get real!

[Clark Gable]

Just as long as they keep the classic. I have crap loads of songs and if I have to ********g settle for a damn ipod touch with only 32 gb ill never buy another apple side product again. I hate the touch. the nano isnt big enough storage. the current nano looks like someone took the 1st gen nano and smashed it down to make it a mini block.

now if apple could offer bluray drives for my imac and mac pro it would be nice.

I would also like the possibility of a 80, 160, and maybe 250gb ipod "classic"

[Kilamite]

From Engadget:

If the screen is flat, I think that would be sexy. Fit in the palm very nice.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/08/4gnano_cases.jpg

[freeny]

The picture is still up = fake ;)

[thejadedmonkey]

It also ditches the iPod connector for a mini USB one, definitely fake.

[.Chris]

Just as long as they keep the classic. I have crap loads of songs and if I have to ********g settle for a damn ipod touch with only 32 gb ill never buy another apple side product again. I hate the touch. the nano isnt big enough storage. the current nano looks like someone took the 1st gen nano and smashed it down to make it a mini block.

now if apple could offer bluray drives for my imac and mac pro it would be nice.

I would also like the possibility of a 80, 160, and maybe 250gb ipod "classic"

Agreed. Though its to bad the touch cant get a HD as it has a lot that takes up space besides songs and video

From Engadget:

If the screen is flat, I think that would be sexy. Fit in the palm very nice.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/08/4gnano_cases.jpg

Looks nice. we'l lsee in a few weeks

The picture is still up = fake ;)

Not really. It takes time for these things to happen. doesnt happen over night you know.

It also ditches the iPod connector for a mini USB one, definitely fake.

how do you know it wasnt moved to the top?

you people NEED to get a life and stop screaming "FAKE" when your not 100% sure your self.

[Kilamite]

The USB connector is dodgy, and could just be another iPod Chinese copy.

But it is a case design.

[Shot22]

Take a look at these pictures: http://www.idealschina.com/Insider/NewsDetail.aspx?ArticleID=28&PageIndex=1.

What's the deal with the grooves on the top of the iPod? Also, the case seems inconsistent with the iPod itself....

[Chupa Chupa]

that's complete bs, the nano has only 4gb and 8gb options, and the touch starts off with 8gb option, thers no point in buying a 8g mini touch if i can get a full touch for 8g, the only thing you pay for is a smaller form factor which would be difficult to use with touch controls.




Sure, but you are assuming that the next gen Touches w/ start @ 8GB. What if they start at 16? Also the whole size thing... people made that logically false argument when the original mini was announced saying why pay more for a mini when you can get 5x the storage for the same price with a regular iPod. Of course it turned out people were willing to pay a premium for a smaller form factor.

[SactoGuy18]

I still think the return to the older form factor for the nano is a TERRIBLE idea.

I like the current nano design--Apple should just make a "3.5G" nano that looks like the current model but with new, more intergrated circuit board and flash memory up to 32 GB. :)

[FaustArp]

These look dumb in my opinion. I want to see something new, not a older iPod nano design that was already made. If the design isn't pleasing they better have something up their sleeves with the functionality of it all. Other then that It is only a rumor right now so i'll quit my bitching:D Thanks for a rumor that has nothing to do with the iphone for once:p

[Yvan256]

Take a look at these pictures: http://www.idealschina.com/Insider/NewsDetail.aspx?ArticleID=28&PageIndex=1.

What's the deal with the grooves on the top of the iPod? Also, the case seems inconsistent with the iPod itself....

Forget the grooves and other details: where's the dock connector in these pictures?

[Phi143]

A new wide screen nano makes some sence. a lot of people perfered the slim design of the earlier nano. and having a wide screen for movies is good.

Touch nano, really doubt it. Why would they make that? they already have a ipod touch.

:Also Blu-ray optical drives in the MB make a lot of sence, because B-R is becoming the new movie medium and people will want to watch those movies on their notebooks. maybe a writer for MBP. it will happen eventually, so it wouldnt suprise me if apple was ahead of the curve

[FaustArp]

Forget the grooves and other details: where's the dock connector in these pictures?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7575618.stm
:D

[aafuss1]

The touch shouldn't come with earbuds-at least bundle aset of the Apple in-ears.

[wpc33]

:eek: It's...so sexy...so wonderful...
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/08/22/234140-new-nano_425.jpg
WOW! This thing looks great! The designers who brought us the iMac, and the MacBook Air have truly bested themselves. Can I get this new REAL Nano design as a 1:12 brass replica? I'd like to showcase it in one of my many art galleries, for this, my friends, is beautiful.



This REAL Nano design is the most exquisite form since Apple's last true vision:
http://i.zdnet.com/gallery/184768-480-552.jpg

Excuse me, I just came. :o

[.Chris]

The new nano looks like the imac a bit.... wonder if the same design is expected for the classic

[wpc33]

The new nano looks like the imac a bit...
:eek:You have a new iMac? :confused: I've only seen the leaked pic.
http://www.pinkgodzillagames.com/retro/old%20tv-thumb.JPG

[iJawn108]

i cant wait for the new macbook pro

[yoyo5280]

Hmm. its not bad...Hoping for some more pictures...but I say

LONG LIVE iPod NANO 1G

[SuperTricolor]

I have been waiting for this new release for some time. I hope this is not it. It look like a rounded version of the old nano. What about the reflection that you will get from this round screen?!?!
Please make this design go away :D:D:D:D:D

[.Chris]

Take a look at these pictures: http://www.idealschina.com/Insider/NewsDetail.aspx?ArticleID=28&PageIndex=1.

What's the deal with the grooves on the top of the iPod? Also, the case seems inconsistent with the iPod itself....

looks like the nano will have a hook for a lanyard.

I have been waiting for this new release for some time. I hope this is not it. It look like a rounded version of the old nano. What about the reflection that you will get from this round screen?!?!
Please make this design go away :D:D:D:D:D

the screen is flat agenst the body as pictured.

[law guy]

It looks like a universal remote control from circa 1998. Not many people think universal remotes are sexy though, so it's an interesting, Redmond-like design choice.

[Anuba]

definitely fake.
That's what wannabe fake detectives said about iPhone 3G pictures and the MBA mockup as well...

A move back to a taller Nano is completely left field and something that fakers wouldn't have thought up. They tend to try and dream up more elaborate and futuristic designs. The design is also consistent with Apple's new trend, they're moving away from (rect)angular shapes into curved and tapered territory, as we've already seen with MBA and iPhone 3G.

It looks like a universal remote control from circa 1998. Not many people think universal remotes are sexy though, so it's an interesting, Redmond-like design choice.
On the Redmondesque scale, this is 3/5. "MobileMe" is 5/5.

Anyway, I just hope iTunes 8.0 doesn't take a minute to load on Windows like 7.X does. I mean come on, it loads slower than effing Photoshop CS3. You can launch and quit Media Player 20 times in the amount of time it takes for iTunes to load. Just remove the line of code that instructs iTunes to pause for 60 seconds before appearing on the screen...

[ShiftyPig]

- iPods to see fairly large price drops to distance itself from the $199 iPhone.

Do people not remember that Apple is getting something like a $325 subsidy from AT&T for every iPhone sold???

Like it costs less than $199 to make an iPhone :rolleyes:

[.Chris]

Do people not remember that Apple is getting something like a $325 subsidy from AT&T for every iPhone sold???

Like it costs less than $199 to make an iPhone :rolleyes:

the parts dont come cheep.

[GregA]

I don't think Kevin is speculating. He is telling something he has heard. Maybe even in confidence. Unless he has the go ahead to publicly air this stuff, he is breaking someones trust. That's why I think it isn't right

He makes enough noise about what he's heard that (I'd hope) no-one would tell him something and expect it to stay quiet.

Rose's record:

Right
- 3G iPhone with GPS (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/03/26/more-confirmation-of-3g-iphone-in-june/)
- 15" Intel MacBook, iPod FM receiver, iWork/iLife, New Remote etc.. (http://www.macrumors.com/2006/01/10/intel-laptop-ilife-06-new-remote/)
- iPod Nano (http://www.macrumors.com/2005/09/05/ipod-nano/)

Partly Right
- $200 iPhone pricing (but called it "low end") (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/01/200-low-end-iphone/)

Wrong
- Front sided camera of iPhone (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/03/22/3g-iphone-front-sided-camera-for-video-chat/)
- Dual battery, iPhone rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2006/12/03/iphone-4gb-and-8gb-coming-in-january/)

* The 3G iPhone with GPS rumour he had there sounds reasonable - from 'a higher level source'. I consider this an "easy" prediction though, something you could guess and get right half the time.
* The 3G iPhone with front facing camera would also be an "easy" prediction - this one which he got wrong.
* The second rumour was a very difficult rumour, but it was only hours before macworld. Credit for getting it the night before.
* The iPod Nano rumour ... 4 months early - well done.
* The iPhone "lite" rumour wasn't partly correct. He said there'd be a smaller cheaper "low end" iPhone released simultaneously to the 3G iPhone. I also consider this a relatively "easy" guess/prediction - one he got wrong.
* iPhone with 2 batteries was totally wrong.

All up... I don't consider his history gives him credibility.

[heisetax]

if it comes in the next 2-3 weeks, that's before the end of the back-to-school promotion...

In the past Apple has changed the iPod models in the last week of the iPod sale. So it could happen again. I'm not ready for a new laptop yet. Maybe a new iPod Touch.

[xbjllb]

And for the love of God, please fix "Sound Check" in iTunes!! Half my songs are on different levels than the others. I have way too much music to care to go through and change _each_ individual song, and I'm not paying for 3rd party software that _might_ fix it.

There's a relatively easy way to do that, and it wouldn't involve reading every darn song in the library and taking forever like it does now.

Just enable the AU peak limiter, allow users to turn it off or on and run all the audio through it, and presto, no matter the recorded level of the original track, they'll all come out at the same level.

Besides, non-engineering types LIKE their music compressed/limited more.

But definitely give the option to turn it off.

Apple, you know where to send the check...

:apple:

[xbjllb]

Even then, [what Steve Jobs says] it's not always accurate. :p

HOW DARE YOU!?!!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Pack up ALL your Apple merchandise IMMEDIATELY in the ORIGINAL boxes and send it DIRECTLY back to Apple or SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.

:apple::mad::apple::mad::apple::mad:

[heisetax]

they released the current ipods during the back to school promotion last year, but only the old ones were eligible, so that doesn't prove anything.

How much can they cut prices on the ipods? Maybe the low-end nano goes to $100 and the high-end to $150? The touch to 150/200/250? The classic (if it survives) goes to $200 and $300? And the shuffle stays where it is? how much more drastic could the cuts be?

I've purchased 3 hard drive iPods: 30 GB, 60 GB & 160GB. I received a free iPod Nano with my Intel Mac Pro & have a 1 GB iPod Shuffle. I hope to see the iPod Classic expanded & continued. I want all or at least most of my musi on 1 iPod.

I do plan on purchasing a new iPod Touch to use as a PDA to replace my Palm.

[xbjllb]

1. Kevin Rose is a douche. Yes, douche. We know. Its about that time again and we know apple is just about to intro new ipods. Its a given. Stop rehashing old rumors. You dont know anything.

Geez, the envy and jealousy in here is neck deep.

You'd think higher of Apple users, and I guess, unfortunately, you'd be wrong.

Petty. Really petty.

:apple::(

[xbjllb]

I don't think I'm following the logic or desire for Blu-Ray on a laptop. Why is everyone pitching a tent about blue-ray? I can not see why this is such a great idea unless you are watching it on a 17" and or higher display? Am I missing something here?

Uh, yes. Content providers. NOT a small chunk of Apple's highend base.

:apple:

[xbjllb]

Blu-ray NOW. I demand Apple supports blu-ray encoding and burning. It is ABSURD they have waited this long.

AND authoring. Ah, the refreshing voice of sanity....

:apple:

[xbjllb]

2) The Blu Ray thing has been predicted a hundred times already. If it was going to happen, it would have ALREADY happened. I hope Apple continues to eschew the format. Optical Disks are not the future of digital file distribution.

C.

We see the pirates have weighed in....

:apple:

[xbjllb]

Why is Kevin Rose doing this ? Is he in such desperate need of attention or traffic ? I thought he was in a real business, with a company, a reputation and people who work for him.

So he has insider info.. good on him. But he should not go public with it, if he's in the business himself. Bad show, IMO.

Ever postulate for a single second that he, as a smart businessman, is being paid to "leak" what he leaks?

Or barring that, Apple lets only the info they want leaked to his "drinking buddies"?

Apple may have been completely clueless when it came to adopting blu-ray, and even more clueless by abandoning their highend mac pros and cinema displays in favor of portable cheap iCrap for the unwashed masses, they may well have microsoft spies sabotaging releases of Mac OS, BUT believe me; they are in full charge of what gets leaked and what doesn't.

THAT's their sense of priorites.

:apple:

[xbjllb]

:eek:You have a new iMac? :confused: I've only seen the leaked pic.
http://www.pinkgodzillagames.com/retro/old%20tv-thumb.JPG

Thanks Vancouver... that is the BEST LAUGH I've had in a month!!

But.... does it play Blu-ray?

:apple:

[macshill]

Thanks Vancouver... that is the BEST LAUGH I've had in a month!!

But.... does it play Blu-ray?

:apple:

Yes, but only until Feb. 18th, 2009 @ 11:59:59PM local time. ;)

[batitombo]

When will iTunes become JUST for 'tunes' ?? Its bloated, ram hogging CRAP, and not all of us have or even want an ipod, iphone, itouch, itv, etc.

Can they just just release an mp3 ONLY application?

Maybe Itunes is not the right player for you

[jawporta]

You probable failed business 101, FYI, Apple is here to make money. If you want a MP3 player only, use this: http://www.panic.com/audion/



When will iTunes become JUST for 'tunes' ?? Its bloated, ram hogging CRAP, and not all of us have or even want an ipod, iphone, itouch, itv, etc.

Can they just just release an mp3 ONLY application?

[dadoc04]

You probable failed business 101, FYI, Apple is here to make money. If you want a MP3 player only, use this: http://www.panic.com/audion/

:D:D

[morespce54]

Why am I being so excited?
Now I might have to buy an iPod before a MBP... Dargn!
There won't be much money left for Christmas gifts this year... ;)

[slackpacker]

A few years back I remember this exact product shape....for something else.

An video was created.... but then turned out to be a Hoax. A video was done that showed how to make this exact shaped ipod out of Paper.

This looks like the same Hoax

[iMacmatician]

Ever postulate for a single second that he, as a smart businessman, is being paid to "leak" what he leaks?

Or barring that, Apple lets only the info they want leaked to his "drinking buddies"?Maybe Apple purposely releases fake info.

[rockinthecave]

So if that really is a mini usb port it might be pretty great if there is also a standard dock somewhere else...

if there's a mini usb port, then that would make additional accessories available like an external fold up keyboard

[rockinthecave]

Also the new ipod touches might have the same plastic back that the new iphones have... if anyone's interested that same website has "2nd gen ipod touch" cases too... they look more curved but the pic dosnt show much check it out:

http://beelan.en.alibaba.com/product/50349829/208759597/For_iPod_touch/for_iPod_Touch_2G_Silicon_Skin_Case.html

[GregA]

Maybe Apple purposely releases fake info.

I think that's a valid way of hiding your plans. Especially when it's a predictable evolution of your existing products. They can even use their design concepts that were trashed.

Whether Apple is doing it or not is a separate question... :)

[rockosmodurnlif]

I like the new nano. Not so excited about the rest. Hope for iTunes 8 though.

[Donz0r]

That new nano looks hot, much more pocketable than the fat one. I really don't think apple would go with mini-usb though, considering every iPod ever made to date has had the same dock connector...

[Roessnakhan]

How the hell was the fat pod not pocketable? It wasn't as tall as the prev. gen, and while it was wider, it wasn't too big for any pocket.

[JayMan8081]

IMHO the last revision to the nano was ugly and this one looks to be just as bad. I think I'll keep waiting for the Touch to come down a little in price and just pick one of those up instead.

[Terrador]

I think the so call "leaked" picture of the new nano looks absolutely RETARDED and I doubt it's real. It doesn't say "Apple" to me. It says more like..."Creative Labs" or "Sony 1998".

It's a retarded elongated oval with an awkward screen placement.

Think about it for 2 seconds, why would apple make such a design that differs SO MUCH from what they just released? They have no products that are oval shaped. It has been rounded rectangles since the iBook G4 and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

I think the so call "leaked" picture of the new nano looks absolutely RETARDED and I doubt it's real. It doesn't say "Apple" to me. It says more like..."Creative Labs" or "Sony 1998".

It's a retarded elongated oval with an awkward screen placement.

Think about it for 2 seconds, why would apple make such a design that differs SO MUCH from what they just released? They have no products that are oval shaped. It has been rounded rectangles since the iBook G4 and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

most intelligent post of the week :rolleyes:

[CWallace]

I think the so call "leaked" picture of the new nano looks absolutely RETARDED and I doubt it's real. It doesn't say "Apple" to me. It says more like..."Creative Labs" or "Sony 1998".

Remember, much the same was leveled at the "leaked" pictures of what is now the current iPod Nano. :)

Mind you, I agree that Apple would not use this form factor, mainly because of the screen. Most (if not all) iPod Nano/Classic games won't work well (if at all) in landscape mode and it would make videos in the current Nano/Classic format look worse.

[rockosmodurnlif]

Remember, much the same was leveled at the "leaked" pictures of what is now the current iPod Nano. :)

Mind you, I agree that Apple would not use this form factor, mainly because of the screen. Most (if not all) iPod Nano/Classic games won't work well (if at all) in landscape mode and it would make videos in the current Nano/Classic format look worse.
I remember the same being said about the leaked screenshots of dashboard when those first surfaced.

How can a bigger screen make the videos look worse?

[Chundles]

How can a bigger screen make the videos look worse?

If they don't bump the resolution a larger screen can make things look terrible. It's not so noticeable at the small sizes of iPod screens but even the 2.5" 320x240 screen on the iPod classic looked better than the 3" 320x240 screen on the first Zune.

[xbjllb]

Here's the real photo of the next real Mac iPod Nano...

http://www.technovelgy.com/graphics/content/communicator.jpg

Now that's a sweet design...

:apple:

[GradientMac]

Did anybody else listen to TWiT? Kevin Rose got Leo Laporte convinced by showing him unreleased images...

[Fablio]

Does anyone think that the iPod Touch will have any significant changes?

I'm just wondering whether it's worth it to wait til September to buy one...

[Apple Ink]

Does anyone think that the iPod Touch will have any significant changes?

I'm just wondering whether it's worth it to wait til September to buy one...

GPS is a probable feature!

[.Chris]

Does anyone think that the iPod Touch will have any significant changes?

I'm just wondering whether it's worth it to wait til September to buy one...

My thoughts for the touch


8GB will be dropped. (same with the nanos including 4GB) 16 and 32 will be the main ones. Each will drop $100.
Thinner design
Added external volume buttons with play, pause fast forword and rewind
Brighter screen
2.1 firmware
Strainless Steal or plastic back. No more chorme
Perhaps new color options

[macshill]

Here's the real photo of the next real Mac iPod Nano...

http://www.technovelgy.com/graphics/content/communicator.jpg

Now that's a sweet design...

:apple:

Oh? You mean to go along w/ this little beauty?

http://i37.tinypic.com/28k20as.jpg

[GregA]

Does anyone think that the iPod Touch will have any significant changes?

I'm just wondering whether it's worth it to wait til September to buy one...

It might be a small change, but could also be very significant. If you have to have one now then go ahead... but I would absolutely wait a month.

[sbreno]

just saw this mockup posted in a brazilian blog, from an album on flickr, looks really nice to me, the guy did a great job..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3090/2796361827_a5f8a1fbcc.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3267/2796361493_cf2f579217.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/2796139135_1f32c691f0.jpg?v=0

album of _umpa_ on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/elchinocudeiro/2796361827/in/set-72157606945881196/

[solipsism]

just saw this mockup posted in a brazilian blog, from an album on flickr, looks really nice to me, the guy did a great job..
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Those are very nice looking. Except for no evidence of how the scrollwheel label transition will take place, they are what I'd except from the new Nanos. I'd also expect a colour that doesn't look so "executive".

[duncyboy]

Does anyone think that the iPod Touch will have any significant changes?

I'm just wondering whether it's worth it to wait til September to buy one...

I'm in the market for a Touch and I'm going to wait a month. I need to save the cash for one but I would've waited anyways.

I only expect minor changes like a choice of black or white plastic backs to match the iPhone (although GPS would be nice though!) but I'm also hoping for a price drop on the 16GB/32GB models too :)

[Digital Skunk]

album of _umpa_ on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/elchinocudeiro/2796361827/in/set-72157606945881196/

They're garbage.

Is it touch screen or scroll wheel? The designer needs to choose, but then again, he/she is a designer and not an engineer. If it touch, loose the wheel and keep the pasted iPhone UI.

If it's scroll wheel, then bring back the original iPod UI.

Then again, the design is still garbage.

[solipsism]

They're garbage.

Is it touch screen or scroll wheel? The designer needs to choose, but then again, he/she is a designer and not an engineer. If it touch, loose the wheel and keep the pasted iPhone UI.

If it's scroll wheel, then bring back the original iPod UI.

Then again, the design is still garbage.

You keep saying it's garbage but you aren't explaining what about it is garbage.

It's obviously a touch wheel, and not a scroll wheel. The fact that button labels change per rotation signify that.

[iMacmatician]

You keep saying it's garbage but you aren't explaining what about it is garbage.

It's obviously a touch wheel, and not a scroll wheel. The fact that button labels change per rotation signify that.I think what Digital Skunk is saying is that since the mockup uses a click wheel, the regular iPod UI is better for it than the iPhone UI.

[arturo175]

Dude, it doesnt make any sense, all apple products, at least the last ones have anti reflex screens, so will the ipod nano have. That screen is totally reflective, you could see the light abave the guy that took the photos... :rolleyes:

However, i like more the actual ipod nano, i think they should build an ipod nano with touch screen and no wheel. Same size as the actual!

[t0mat0]

Here's the real photo of the next real Mac iPod Nano...

http://www.technovelgy.com/graphics/content/communicator.jpg

Now that's a sweet design...

:apple:

Man - a limited edition RED steampunk/retro version. I'd imagine it'd sell well.

I think what Digital Skunk is saying is that since the mockup uses a click wheel, the regular iPod UI is better for it than the iPhone UI.

Isn't the clickwheel a great place to try haptics? presumably, if done right, you could actually create the clickwheel anywhere within the middle part of the screen you put your finger, or maybe one side. or as shown previously, one part of the screen is haptic and touchscreen enabled. then you get the flat surface. But then i'm sure Digital Skunk might not like it hehe ;)

They've got the patents on it, and surely theres been some internal skunk work on it - they're presumably one of the leaders now in terms of touch screen phones / consumer products in the world?

[t0mat0]

Edit: Accidental double post

[zedsdead]

just saw this mockup posted in a brazilian blog, from an album on flickr, looks really nice to me, the guy did a great job..

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album of _umpa_ on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/elchinocudeiro/2796361827/in/set-72157606945881196/

The UI isn't right, but the design is the best I've seen so far.

[madmaxmedia]

Think about it for 2 seconds, why would apple make such a design that differs SO MUCH from what they just released? They have no products that are oval shaped. It has been rounded rectangles since the iBook G4 and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Every year they've come out with a new Nano that renders previous cases incompatible.

It will likely happen again this year, even if those mockups are not the real deal.

[madmaxmedia]

If they don't bump the resolution a larger screen can make things look terrible. It's not so noticeable at the small sizes of iPod screens but even the 2.5" 320x240 screen on the iPod classic looked better than the 3" 320x240 screen on the first Zune.

In general this is true.

But slightly increasing the 2" Nano screen wouldn't make it look subjectively worse than the current Nano, because of its high pixel density. It's 320 x 240, just like the bigger Classic screen. And if these mockups are indicative of the real product, the screen will still be smaller than the Classic screen.

[madmaxmedia]

Did anybody else listen to TWiT? Kevin Rose got Leo Laporte convinced by showing him unreleased images...

Ummm...this is pretty big news- anyone else hear this?

If Leo Laporte is actually convinced by some images we haven't seen, then I would tend to believe it too.

[Umbongo]

Ummm...this is pretty big news- anyone else hear this?

If Leo Laporte is actually convinced by some images we haven't seen, then I would tend to believe it too.

Yes. Kevin sent him images that I gathered were uncropped images that showed technical notes or other such things that convinced Leo it wasn't just a fake image.

[madmaxmedia]

I'm listening to the podcast right now, very interesting stuff.

Kevin Rose obviously has more detailed images, he sent them to Leo right in the middle of the podcast. It's not just product photos, it's some sort of document (brochure, internal Apple doc, etc.)

Leo commented that if it was a fake, it was a very good fake. He concluded with, "Okay I believe you now." Kevin also re-iterated that iPod Touch prices were coming down.

He also said his source on the iTunes 8 stuff was different. Finally, he cautioned that he doesn't know any of this stuff for sure, it's just stuff he's getting from his sources. I think that's an indication of good faith on his part, it's not like he's coming out and bragging about know what Apple is coming out with next.

So I guess we'll see what comes out... :)

[amammad]

They're garbage.

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Then again, the design is still garbage.

Tut! Bit of a jerky response! :mad:

[FerdiV]

Where can I listen to that podcast, with Leo Laporte and Kevin Rose?

UPDATE: Already found it.

http://twit.tv/twit

Under 'this WEEK in TECH'

[.Chris]

just saw this mockup posted in a brazilian blog, from an album on flickr, looks really nice to me, the guy did a great job..


album of _umpa_ on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/elchinocudeiro/2796361827/in/set-72157606945881196/

That could happen. But is it touch or click? May be we will see a slight Ui change in the new iphone/ipod touch OS

[mongoos150]

Not a big fan of where iPod nano design has been the past year, and this redesign doesn't inspire any new confidence in me. Blah.

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Not a big fan of where iPod nano design has been the past year, and this redesign doesn't inspire any new confidence in me. Blah.

I feel the same way. I didn't really like the first generation because of the small capacity and how prone to scratches they were. I loved the second generation as 4GB, for someone who syncs as often as I do, was perfect and the colors were nice and it was unbelievably small. The third generation was just plain ugly and went back to that scratch prone design. Yuck. The next one just looks (if the pictures are to be believed) wonky. I need to find a brand new blue second generation iPod nano...

[.Chris]

Not a big fan of where iPod nano design has been the past year, and this redesign doesn't inspire any new confidence in me. Blah.

Personly I think all the ipods need a refresh not just a new cover peace or colors. We NEED a brand new breath taking design thats light years ahead of all others.. The ipod has had the same design since, well 2001. Small screen up top round controls on bottom. I know its a signature design, but come on, lets have some invention!

[bigwig]

Another thing I'd like to see in iTunes 8: the ability to sync my ALAC iTunes library into MP3 on my iPod, on the fly i.e. no permanent, redundant MP3 copy of my ALAC library.

[mouthtarget]

if the announcement will be Sept. 9.... when would they hit retail? same day?

i want a new iPod so bad... since july.

[AppliedMicro]

We NEED a brand new breath taking design thats light years ahead of all others.. The ipod has had the same design since, well 2001. Small screen up top round controls on bottom. I know its a signature design, but come on, lets have some invention!
If the multitouched iPhone/iPhod touch isn't some newly designed invention - then what is? :confused:

The design moves more and more to software level, as buttons and controls are contextually presented by software. So, for a given size of the device itself, the design philosophy ought be pretty simple: The larger (the screen), the better. Of course, a few millimeters frame will be needed around the screen, for sturdiness and so that you not can comfortably hold the thing in your palm without obscuring something onscreen with your fingers. But essentially, the whole front side should be covered by as much screen as possible. The back side isn't really that important anyway. So there isn't so much designing to do in hardware anymore, as it was some years ago...

(anyone disagree?)

[iMacmatician]

If the multitouched iPhone/iPhod touch isn't some newly designed invention - then what is? :confused:

The design moves more and more to software level, as buttons and controls are contextually presented by software. So, for a given size of the device itself, the design philosophy ought be pretty simple: The larger (the screen), the better. Of course, a few millimeters frame will be needed around the screen, for sturdiness and so that you not can comfortably hold the thing in your palm without obscuring something onscreen with your fingers. But essentially, the whole front side should be covered by as much screen as possible. The back side isn't really that important anyway. So there isn't so much designing to do in hardware anymore, as it was some years ago...

(anyone disagree?)I totally agree. I think I've said before that Apple is stabilizing their hardware designs and focusing more on software change.

[.Chris]

what are the chances the macs haveing a 1080p HD screen when and if blu-ray hits? (for you Noobs out there, yes they have 1080 computers now)

[PurrBall]

what are the chances the macs haveing a 1080p HD screen when and if blu-ray hits? (for you Noobs out there, yes they have 1080 computers now)

The 24" iMacs and high-res MBPs already have a 1920x1200 resolution which is more than enough for a 1080 video.

[skylinedropout]

That doesn't really look like a new Nano to me, it just seems too quasi-futuristic for Apple. I can see Blu-Ray support coming in Snow Leopard, but I can't see what revolutionary feature will be added to iTunes in version 8.

I would expect there to be at least one if not two major updates involved with iTunes. First, HD rentals/purchases on the computer and minor interface changes as would be characterized by the major number change. And if we were lucky/unlucky bluray playback as demanded by mpaa.

Dont hold your breath, the first just seems a little logical.

[kabunaru]

The 24" iMacs and high-res MBPs already have a 1920x1200 resolution which is more than enough for a 1080 video.

But then there is this hype that Apple will switch to 16:9 displays.

By the way, when do you ladies and gentlemen see Mac OS 10.5.6 being released?
An realistic prediction please. :D

[.Chris]

But then there is this hype that Apple will switch to 16:9 displays.

By the way, when do you ladies and gentlemen see Mac OS 10.5.6 being released?
An realistic prediction please. :D

WWDC 2009

[iMacmatician]

By the way, when do you ladies and gentlemen see Mac OS 10.5.6 being released?
An realistic prediction please. :DLate 2008?