iPod Nano and iPod Touch Dimensions Revealed?

[MacRumors]

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iLounge claims (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/ipod-nano-4g-touch-2g-dimensions-revealed/) to have dimensions of the new iPod Nano and iPod Touch which are expected to be released at next week's September 9th media event.

The new iPod Nano resembles circulating rumors, though the front display does not appear to be as curved as previously depicted (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/08/22/new-ipod-nano-ipod-touch-itunes-8-0-blu-ray-in-10-6/). Case manufacturer XSKN is already selling (http://www.xskn.com/default.aspx?m=Products&sid=287&cid=2746) cases for the 4th Generation nano which match the design.


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The new iPod Touch will be receiving a tapered design much like the new iPhone 3G. The new case appears to be slightly thicker than the existing iPod Touch and also reveals physical volume controls which are absent on the current iPod Touch.

Apple is expected to release these new iPods on September 9th, 2008.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/09/03/ipod-nano-and-ipod-touch-dimensions-revealed/)

[Dejavu]

Looks entirely credible. Looking forward to the iTouch.

[Desamell]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.

[muldul]

I will so get another touch if it looks like the iPhone 3G

[ppc_michael]

I'll be jealous of the physical volume controls on the iPod Touch.

[.Chris]

oh man when I heard the new volume controls on the new iPod Touch I got excited..... hopefully theres a lot more then just an iphone case along with physical buttons....

new colors? (besides black and white)

[drummerlondonw3]

i personally like the idea of the new nanos - i still think the current gen would be the best for running/exercise and will keep mine for that but for video (and its increasingly moving that way media wise) then the 'next' gen looks not only sensible but good

[fivepoint]

Sign me up!

[BoyBach]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.


It's iPod touch not iPod Touch. [/being pedantic] :p

[.Chris]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.

well most the people i know who call it an iTouch are around 13-15 years old... so theres your answer...

I'll be jealous of the physical volume controls on the iPod Touch.

lol, same here. It needed to be added from the start. But Steve wanted a clean side. Well, the iphone has a clean side and it has the buttons...

Wonder what the buttons will be made out of? Chrome or aluminum?

[drummerlondonw3]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.

idiots possibly is a bit strong, i think its fair to say that if something is first post on something like this then they are eagerly lookin at this site and prob a strong mac person and know something about technology

i personally don't think its worth the flame - d:apple:

[CWallace]

It makes sense Apple would want the iPod Touch to match the 3G iPhone to emphasize the brand, just as the original did with the iPhone. It also makes it easier for accessory makers to create cross-platform accessories.

[syndalis]

physical volume buttons are a nice addon to the touch... though I wonder why they had to make it slightly thicker to accommodate that.

Perhaps they needed more room in the case to house 64 gigs + a bigger battery?

[mca7]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.


YEAH! Good call Desamell. Screw all people who don't know anything about technology. Why do they even post on these boards? It really makes me mad. Way to call out that nut job and correct him! We need more people like you on these boards! Keep up the great work!

[Quillz]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.
I agree. People saying iTouch instead of iPod touch is a pet peeve of mine.

[Eduardo1971]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.

Egads! :o

[akira2501]

Since it is thicker, it better have a lot more memory as a trade off. Also it may have true gps and some other features since it is bulking up. I personally like the slimmer design, but will take the slightly thicker one as long as it is a major rehaul. 80211.n would be nice as well.

[ryanwarsaw]

Why would you get mad at what somebody calls an iPod?

[mca7]

Whoops! I was so busy commending Desamell that I forgo to comment on the new design. I really hope that isn't the new nano design. It just looks like a zune. And I could care less about the iTouch, I mean iPod Touch. Seems like a waste of time to do a redesign on it unless they can cram more flash drives in there.

[bytethese]

Hmm, the new iPT looks pretty good. I'd like to know what the capacities are tho. :)

[CWallace]

802.11n would be nice as well.

If the iPhone doesn't have it, then the iPod Touch won't.

Though I do wonder why the iPhone doesn't, since 802.11n is something Apple pushes across their Mac line... I would think somebody makes an 802.11n chipset that would fit.

[drb6]

shoot, looks like there will be a redesign like I'd hoped :o now I can't resist buying the new one. Was hoping not much would change, so I could easily buy a refurb 1st gen. Oh well, more credit card points :D

[.Chris]

It makes sense Apple would want the iPod Touch to match the 3G iPhone to emphasize the brand, just as the original did with the iPhone. It also makes it easier for accessory makers to create cross-platform accessories.

I still like the old iphone back. was very clean professional looking. but so is the new one. Hopefully the touch will add more colors and may be a Product {RED} verson.....

It may as well be the same size as the iphone to. Like You said, accessory makers can make one product that will fit both. Cut back on production costs and save money and offer it a bit cheeper for cousmers.

Why would you get mad at what somebody calls an iPod?

its not that its just the fact they call it an itouch. read the responces above to see why

[drb6]

Cut back on production costs and save money and offer it a bit cheeper for cousmers.


Or for more profits

[ryanwarsaw]

You have the right to get mad at whatever you want and I guess you don't have to justify it to me.

Back on topic....

New iPods will be cool and all but unless they basically re-invent the wheel I am not buying anything. I already have the best iPod there is which is the iPhone.

They did say they were taking a hit on profits this quarter to develop new tech that others couldn't compete with. With those sort of claims they had better come out with something other than redesigned cases or their stock will plunge down the toilet.

[Insulin Junkie]

Physical volume buttons. Good!

[pacmantech]

Deal breaker for me is an internal speaker. I want to be able to sit and watch quick video content on my iPod touch without having to connect headphones. I don't care about the sound quality for a YouTube clip or video short, etc. External volume controls are very good addition, though.

802.11n isn't really something that the touch needs, unless there is some whizbang home networking built-in that we don't know about. For browsing on Safari, .11g is fine.

[fabsgwu]

Maybe the touch will get optional data only service, like WiMax or something . That would be neat-O. Also I would be glad to see the scratch-magnet metal backing go...

[pavelbure]

Since it is thicker, it better have a lot more memory as a trade off. Also it may have true gps and some other features since it is bulking up. I personally like the slimmer design, but will take the slightly thicker one as long as it is a major rehaul. 80211.n would be nice as well.


that's is for the 3g attenna. data plan for the ipod touch.

i can only dream.

[Beric]

It's thicker. So it's GOT to have real GPS (not the iPhone fake-GPS). And volume buttons as well? I couldn't be happier.

[riversky]

If the iPhone doesn't have it, then the iPod Touch won't.

Though I do wonder why the iPhone doesn't, since 802.11n is something Apple pushes across their Mac line... I would think somebody makes an 802.11n chipset that would fit.

I believe you would need multiple antennas for the N spec. They might not fit well in a device like this and use too much power.

[FreeState]

If the iPhone doesn't have it, then the iPod Touch won't.

Though I do wonder why the iPhone doesn't, since 802.11n is something Apple pushes across their Mac line... I would think somebody makes an 802.11n chipset that would fit.


What would the benefits of N on the Touch or the iPhone be? Internet speeds for 99% of the users still is slower that the max speed of G...

[.Chris]

You have the right to get mad at whatever you want and I guess you don't have to justify it to me.

no one is mad

[ChrisA]

Here is my "leaked" script for the Sept. 9th event...

Steve: "The iPod Nano is now 15 millimeters taller than the previous version. We hope you will enjoy this new design. Thank you for coming. That's all."

Seriously, what else will he say? Even if all the iTunes/iPod related rumors are all true.
Ok he might add "and we've added and auto-fill playlist and cool graphics to iTunes and redesigned the rear cover of the iPod touch" I think this means there is something coming we don't know about. If he only talked about the current rumors he's get booed off the stage for wasting people's time. My guess is some big unexpected announcement. Maybe the end of DRM'd music. Apple will follow Amazon.com's and/or emusic.com's lead hence the new major revision of iTunes

[polar-blair]

I wonder how the new nano will be like when holding it to watch movies? Well we will soon find out :D

[CWallace]

What would the benefits of N on the Touch or the iPhone be?

For me, I would not need to maintain a separate 802.11g WiFi network for my iPhone. All my other equipment is 802.11n and I prefer to keep it at maximum performance, since I use it for data transfer in addition to internet access, so the extra performance is noticeable in those areas.

Certainly not a big issue for me, to be sure, but if it could be done conveniently and for minimal cost, I'd welcome it. :)

[.Chris]

Deal breaker for me is an internal speaker. I want to be able to sit and watch quick video content on my iPod touch without having to connect headphones. I don't care about the sound quality for a YouTube clip or video short, etc. External volume controls are very good addition, though.

802.11n isn't really something that the touch needs, unless there is some whizbang home networking built-in that we don't know about. For browsing on Safari, .11g is fine.

the external speakers may be the reason why its thicker. lets hope....

[Beric]

that's is for the 3g attenna. data plan for the ipod touch.

i can only dream.

Are you kidding? Get an iPhone if you want a "data plan".

Touch users don't want iPhones exactly because they have plans. We either don't like AT&T, don't want a $2000 contract, or both. Putting any kind of contract on the Touch would ruin its entire purpose.

[.Chris]

Does anyone think the new ipods will have screen problems like they did last year with the touch?

[ryanwarsaw]

no one is mad,,,

and your mom worked at Buckingham elementary in bend in 1999

Eat my iTouch. LOL

[bigmc6000]

What is that? AutoCAD 10??? That just looks really, really bad. I suppose if it's a case supplier company than maybe but I'd sure as heck hope Apple isn't using that software...

[QCassidy352]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.

hahaha, thanks for that. (I can only hope that was tongue in cheek, because if not, buddy you've got anger management issues.)

I don't like that they're going back to the longer nano. I didn't like the fatty when it came out, but after seeing one up close it's really grown on me. The new design is too zune-like.

The touch is what we expected I guess. Physical volume controls are a good thing, but too bad it's getting thicker.

[MrCrowbar]

Physical volume buttons. Good!

Agreed. Maybe they include the iPhone's earbuds with the button to play/pause. I love that feature on the iPhone, too bad it won't resume playeing after 2 minutes of pause because the iPhone went on standby. Should be a longer delay, like 30 minutes in my opinion.

I like the new nano from these pictures; tapered back, big display.

[bananas]

Cheaper price for the iPod Touch or GPS.

..or BOTH :D

[Beric]

the external speakers may be the reason why its thicker. lets hope....

I'd prefer GPS. Speakers would be nice, but GPS is what I really want. And GPS would definitely require a slightly thicker Touch.

[danny_w]

What would the benefits of N on the Touch or the iPhone be? Internet speeds for 99% of the users still is slower that the max speed of G...
It would mean that I wouldn't have to run my AEBS in b/g/n compatible mode or have a separate b/g router just for the Touch or iPhone. THAT is the biggest benefit, and it *is* a big one to me.

[Fidgetyrat]

It's thicker. So it's GOT to have real GPS (not the iPhone fake-GPS). And volume buttons as well? I couldn't be happier.

How is the iPhone GPS Fake? I was under the impression it is position assisted GPS which would be BETTER then the best they could put into the iPod touch without some sort of service plan. I thought the cellular signal was just used to obtain a faster satellite fix.

[ryanwarsaw]

Yeah, it is annoying that because of my iPhone every device in my house has to run off of g.

[Rendition]

With the bigger dimensions for the iPod Touch, I think they are gong to dump the iPod Classic and have iPod Touch with hard-drives.

[Beric]

Agreed. Maybe they include the iPhone's earbuds with the button to play/pause. I love that feature on the iPhone, too bad it won't resume playeing after 2 minutes of pause because the iPhone went on standby. Should be a longer delay, like 30 minutes in my opinion.

I like the new nano from these pictures; tapered back, big display.

Don't forget many people (like me) hate the Apple earbuds, and therefore don't use them. I myself would be happy with a simple set of volume controls on the physical Touch.

[ryanwarsaw]

With the bigger dimensions for the iPod Touch, I think they are gong to dump the iPod Classic and have iPod Touch with hard-drives.

I could be mistaken but doesn't the touch interface require flash to run smoothly?

[txhchman]

that's is for the 3g attenna. data plan for the ipod touch.

i can only dream.

I was thinking the same, long shot but maybe just edge service. I have the Iphone but some people might love the phone they have and still want something more. I do doubt this as I think it would cut down on Iphone sales but still would be nice. kevin

[Beric]

It would mean that I wouldn't have to run my AEBS in b/g/n compatible mode or have a separate b/g router just for the Touch or iPhone. THAT is the biggest benefit, and it *is* a big one to me.

Actually, that's a really good point. G devices slow down N devices. Even if wireless N on the Touch was never really useful, the fact that it would not slow down my N devices would be plenty enough.

[FreeState]

So if Im reading this correctly:

New iPod nano: Height: 3.57 inches (90.75mm), Width 1.53 inches (38.75mm), Depth 0.24 inches (6.08mm) Total Volume: 1.311
Current iPod nano: Height: 2.75 inches (69.8 mm), Width: 2.06 inches (52.3 mm), Depth: 0.26 inch (6.5 mm) Total Volume: 1.473

New iPod touch: Height : 4.37 inches (111mm), Width: 2.43 inches (61.80mm), Depth 0.33 inches (8.40mm) Total Volume: 3.504
Current iPod touch: Height: 4.3 inches (110 mm), Width: 2.4 inches (61.8 mm), Depth: 0.31 inch (8 mm) Total Volume: 3.199

[Roessnakhan]

I could be mistaken but doesn't the touch interface require flash to run smoothly?

Yes, as does the current iPod interface. Compare a nano to a classic and the time it takes to do things is dramatically different.

[WBrasington]

Egads! :o

I really hate it when people come on here and sound so stupid.

It's iGads..... not Egads.

You sound like you know nothing!:eek:

[.Chris]

Eat my iTouch. LOL

......

The touch is what we expected I guess. Physical volume controls are a good thing, but too bad it's getting thicker.

It may be a good thing though... more features.....

I'd prefer GPS. Speakers would be nice, but GPS is what I really want. And GPS would definitely require a slightly thicker Touch.

or both. Both would be nice.... Eirther way I have high hopes for the new iPod Touch

With the bigger dimensions for the iPod Touch, I think they are gong to dump the iPod Classic and have iPod Touch with hard-drives.

ummm no. It would be a lot thicker. Plus they wont drop the classic. Not untill at least 2011, 10 years after the ipod was born.

Don't forget many people (like me) hate the Apple earbuds, and therefore don't use them. I myself would be happy with a simple set of volume controls on the physical Touch.

same here. I have a Bose headset I got on sale for $125 (i know but I like HD sound) and it works fine. Had the gold prong for best sound. and its bose!

[danny_w]

With the bigger dimensions for the iPod Touch, I think they are gong to dump the iPod Classic and have iPod Touch with hard-drives.
I certainly hope not. The Touch and Classic are aimed at different markets, and neither one can effectively replace the other. Not everybody wants a click wheel (thus the touch) but also not everybody wants a touch screen (thus the Classic). If they ever do away with the Classic and Nano then I will never buy another iPod, period, end of story.

[Fidgetyrat]

I could be mistaken but doesn't the touch interface require flash to run smoothly?

I agree,

Plus it would be nice to own an iPod that doesn't go into the shop once a year from hard disk failures like that of all of my friends who own new classics.


Though in apples defense, my 3G iPod is still kicking on its original disk drive.

[ryanwarsaw]

I really hate it when people come on here and sound so stupid.

It's iGads..... not Egads.

You sound like you know nothing!:eek:

People are rather testy today :) That made me laugh.

[Beric]

How is the iPhone GPS Fake? I was under the impression it is position assisted GPS which would be BETTER then the best they could put into the iPod touch without some sort of service plan. I thought the cellular signal was just used to obtain a faster satellite fix.

Actually, having just read up on AGPS on the internet, I don't know what I was talking about.

Regardless, the Touch certainly can have the older-style GPS which requires no internet or phone connection whatever to work. Preloaded maps will make that possible.

[oldwatery]

I agree. People saying iTouch instead of iPod touch is a pet peeve of mine.

OMG...what is wrong with you people.
No wonder there is so much hatred in the world :(

[fabsgwu]

How is the iPhone GPS Fake? I was under the impression it is position assisted GPS which would be BETTER then the best they could put into the iPod touch without some sort of service plan. I thought the cellular signal was just used to obtain a faster satellite fix.

Yes, A-GPS (as in 3G iPhone) is better because the phone can lock on a location even if your receiver doesn't see all the satellites it needs to, like in cities, inside buildings, and other obstructed locations. It still has full GPS capabilities (i.e. real GPS), but with additional software and hardware guidance.

the 2.5G iPhone and the current iPod touch have the "A" without the "-GPS" part (i.e. fake GPS).

[MrCrowbar]

Don't forget many people (like me) hate the Apple earbuds, and therefore don't use them. I myself would be happy with a simple set of volume controls on the physical Touch.

well, I like them if only they would last longer than 3 months. The current earbuds with the rubber ring really suck. Either it's the plug part dissolving, one bud getting more silent than the other one, the rubber coming off or the grille part coming off of the rest...

If there were normal earbuds (no in-ear) with a srtraight plug that fits into the EDGE iPhone jack and a compatible mic with button, I'd love to have one.

[Pooshka]

Ooooooh, I love the new iPouch...

awesome

[WBrasington]

OMG...what is wrong with you people.
No wonder there is so much hatred in the world :(

In an effort to stay on the 'correct naming' theme.

I know what the big surprise is being announced Sept 9th.
They bought Hershey foods, and the new product is called iCandy.
(and I don't want to see anyone calling it eye-candy)
Need much better screens, which is why the nano is growing,
and it will be so ....... saweeeeeeet!:p

[ryanwarsaw]

I agree,

Plus it would be nice to own an iPod that doesn't go into the shop once a year from hard disk failures like that of all of my friends who own new classics.


Though in apples defense, my 3G iPod is still kicking on its original disk drive.

Seems to me that Apple considers hard disks an old tech and are moving away from them as fast as they can.

[Kilamite]

Can't really tell how curved the screen is, or if it is curved at all from those dimensions.

[Beric]

well, I like them if only they would last longer than 3 months. The current earbuds with the rubber ring really suck. Either it's the plug part dissolving, one bud getting more silent than the other one, the rubber coming off or the grille part coming off of the rest...

If there were normal earbuds (no in-ear) with a srtraight plug that fits into the EDGE iPhone jack and a compatible mic with button, I'd love to have one.

I actually hate earbuds in general. In additional to the disgust I find in actually putting them into your ear, earbuds provide worse sound quality, and are the main cause of damage to our ears. Open-ear-type headphones, which incidentally provide the best sound quality out there, also allow the sound to disperse a little more into the air, severely limiting any damage to your ears.

[ryanwarsaw]

In an effort to stay on the 'correct naming' theme.

I know what the big surprise is being announced Sept 9th.
They bought Hershey foods, and the new product is called iCandy.
(and I don't want to see anyone calling it eye-candy)
Need much better screens, which is why the nano is growing,
and it will be so ....... saweeeeeeet!:p

Don't you mean the iPod nano? It absolutely drives my crazy when people just call it the nano. And when I have a pet peeve I expect everybody to share it.

[Roessnakhan]

People shorten names all the time, I don't see what the big deal is. I have to admit iTouch bothers me though, because its creating an entirely new name rather than using a portion of the actual product name.

[Kilamite]

Don't you mean the iPod nano? It absolutely drives my crazy when people just call it the nano. And when I have a pet peeve I expect everybody to share it.

So if you worked in a store that sold iPod's, and a customer came in and asked if they could have an iPod you'd say, "iPod Touch, iPod Classic, iPod Nano or the iPod Shuffle?" instead of "The Touch, Classic, Nano or Shuffle?"

[.Chris]

I actually hate earbuds in general. In additional to the disgust I find in actually putting them into your ear, earbuds provide worse sound quality, and are the main cause of damage to our ears. Open-ear-type headphones, which incidentally provide the best sound quality out there, also allow the sound to disperse a little more into the air, severely limiting any damage to your ears.

well they also fall off easy and dont have a secure fit. Over the ear is the best in my opinion

[Beric]

So if you worked in a store that sold iPod's, and a customer came in and asked if they could have an iPod you'd say, "iPod Touch, iPod Classic, iPod Nano or the iPod Shuffle?" instead of "The Touch, Classic, Nano or Shuffle?"

I would actually just say, "Which model of iPod would you like?" ;)

[.Chris]

People shorten names all the time, I don't see what the big deal is. I have to admit iTouch bothers me though, because its creating an entirely new name rather than using a portion of the actual product name.

+1

I dont mind, "nano" "classic" "shuffle" or "touch" but the other crap like iTouch brothers me..

[Kilamite]

I would actually just say, "Which model of iPod would you like?" ;)

Okay, fair play :p What if they asked what the models are?

[BenRoethig]

Don't you mean the iPod nano? It absolutely drives my crazy when people just call it the nano. And when I have a pet peeve I expect everybody to share it.

Or when people call the Macintosh the Mac.

[ryanwarsaw]

So if you worked in a store that sold iPod's, and a customer came in and asked if they could have an iPod you'd say, "iPod Touch, iPod Classic, iPod Nano or the iPod Shuffle?" instead of "The Touch, Classic, Nano or Shuffle?"

Yes, that's exactly how I would handle it. I would probably berate them because they are a bunch of 15 year old idiots as well.

I am hoping people can sense that I am being sarcastic.

[srobert]

I would have thought that by now it would have made sense for Apple to have a standard aspect ratio for displays on their portable devices. Especially now with videos and applications taking a more important role. :confused:

[Kilamite]

Or when people call the Macintosh the Mac.

Apple did that.

[Roessnakhan]

Or when people call the Macintosh the Mac.

Well when the company that produces it doesn't even call it a Macintosh anymore... :p

[Desamell]

I bet Steve Jobs is gonna discuss his health

[Beric]

Okay, fair play :p What if they asked what the models are?

"Well, there's four different models of iPods. Would you like me to show each of them to you?" :D

[ryanwarsaw]

I think the Mac comment was also meant in humor.

[WBrasington]

So if you worked in a store that sold iPod's, and a customer came in and asked if they could have an iPod you'd say, "iPod Touch, iPod Classic, iPod Nano or the iPod Shuffle?" instead of "The Touch, Classic, Nano or Shuffle?"

I'd run'em out of the store on a rail for not knowing enough to call it what it really is.

A rose by any other name........ unless it's an iRose and then it's a very specific thing!

[BenRoethig]

I wonder how the new nano will be like when holding it to watch movies? Well we will soon find out :D

Probably be like a small touch/ Iphone. I would assume the lists would be vertical, but the movies would show horizontal.

[Beric]

Probably be like a small touch/ Iphone. I would assume the lists would be vertical, but the movies would show horizontal.

Could it have an accelerometer, just like the iPhone and Touch?

[Desamell]

Eat my iTouch. LOL
See its people like you i was talking about. Leave

[Clayne]

Ah ****.

It better have more storage and internal speakers to make up for that thicker, ugly design. Part of why I loved the iPod touch is because of how thin it is. And the curve on the back? Not a fan. Hopefully, this design sheet makes it look worse than it is. And I hope it's not plastic. PLEASE, stay away from the plastic.

I don't care for GPS. What's the point if you're just using WiFi anyways? But for such a design change, they might as well throw that in too.

***

And it's not that the Nano looks like the Zune. It's not Apple's fault that Microsoft copied them, and I don't think Apple will let that limit them. I do think it's different/peculiar that they'd make the 4G Nano that much larger than the previous gen.

Anyways, I'm kinda frustrated right now. I'll still look forward to Tuesday. What I see then is what really matters.

[Shadow]

What would the benefits of N on the Touch or the iPhone be? Internet speeds for 99% of the users still is slower that the max speed of G...

Agreed. n makes sense for laptops which are transferring a lot of data wirelessly (Time Capsule) or for streaming media (AppleTV) but for mobile devices right now it takes too much power and the benefits are small or non-existent compared to g.

[Roessnakhan]

"Well, there's four different models of iPods. Would you like me to show each of them to you?" :D

That takes longer to say than just saying the actual product names. :p

[BenRoethig]

Well when the company that produces it doesn't even call it a Macintosh anymore... :p

Yeah see, this virus has even gotten to One Infinite Loop. It must be stopped a.s.a err as soon as possible.

[madmaxmedia]

The new iPod Touch shape is very interesting...

I don't think it's speakers, as that wouldn't cause an extra bulge at the back.

I'm hoping the report of GPS being added is true. I think the Touch could make a nice little GPS unit for your car, instead of buying a dedicated unit for $150 or $200. The main hardware is there- reasonably large color touchscreen, lots of memory for map storage.

[ryanwarsaw]

See its people like you i was talking about. Leave

Hey, look the guy went off on me for very little. I can not honestly believe that people get this worked up over nothing.

[BenRoethig]

Could it have an accelerometer, just like the iPhone and Touch?

Maybe, but I don't know expensive they are and the Nano is a pretty small device.

[happydude]

so much discussion over what people call the ipod touch. good lord, get a life, people. there's a war going on, a presidential election, the economy sucks, college tuition going through the roof . . . but let's gripe over someone calling the touch an itouch. yeah, this is a place for apple rumors, so how about talking about the apple rumors instead of boiling over on symantics.

that said, i think the new nano (or "ipod nano" for some of you freaks) sucks. i'd rather they keep the current form factor and use the money, time and people going into R&D on a nano that is fine with fixing current problems with current products.

[Beric]

Ah ****.

It better have more storage and internal speakers to make up for that thicker, ugly design. Part of why I loved the iPod touch is because of how thin it is. And the curve on the back? Not a fan. Hopefully, this design sheet makes it look worse than it is. And I hope it's not plastic. PLEASE, stay away from the plastic.

I don't care for GPS. What's the point if you're just using WiFi anyways? But for such a design change, they might as well throw that in too.

I, too, hope for no plastic design. The current design is great.

But GPS would be so useful; i.e. when I'm biking in the wilderness, or lost in the city. And it would open a ton of new possibilities with the App store. And you don't need WiFi for GPS. You can have preloaded maps, and then just access the GPS satellites directly.

GPS would be so great I couldn't care less if the Touch gets slightly thicker in the process. And the same for external speakers, and more memory.

[ryanwarsaw]

so much discussion over what people call the ipod touch. good lord, get a life, people. there's a war going on, a presidential election, the economy sucks, college tuition going through the roof . . . but let's gripe over someone calling the touch an itouch. yeah, this is a place for apple rumors, so how about talking about the apple rumors instead of boiling over on symantics.

that said, i think the new nano (or "ipod nano" for some of you freaks) sucks. i'd rather they keep the current form factor and use the money, time and people going into R&D on a nano that is fine with fixing current problems with current products.

The iPod nano comment was a joke to actually illustrate that people are being nuts.

How can you know if a product that doesn't exist sucks or doesn't suck?

[Zimpaz]

rahh i need a new laptop!!

Ive been looking at the dell website and their small 13" laptop is tempting me.

Please apple save me from this madness

[Roessnakhan]

rahh i need a new laptop!!

Ive been looking at the dell website and their small 13" laptop is tempting me.

Please apple save me from this madness

Last I checked Apple had a 13" laptop, two of them. :p

[madmaxmedia]

I bet Steve Jobs is gonna discuss his health

OMG!!! I just decoded the invitation message!! ("Let's Rock!")

Steve Jobs is going to discuss his gallstones!

Sorry, no new iPods.

[Zimpaz]

Last I checked Apple had a 13" laptop, two of them. :p

But i dont want to buy it only for it to be the previous gen in 1 month

[born4sky]

I wonder if iPod Touch Back will be plastic as an iPhones

[happydude]

The iPod nano comment was a joke to actually illustrate that people are being nuts.

How can you know if a product that doesn't exist sucks or doesn't suck?

a joke that has taken up far too much time being discussed!!

and i can say it sucks the same as everyone who says they love it say they love it.

[.Chris]

Ah ****.

It better have more storage and internal speakers to make up for that thicker, ugly design. Part of why I loved the iPod touch is because of how thin it is. And the curve on the back? Not a fan. Hopefully, this design sheet makes it look worse than it is. And I hope it's not plastic. PLEASE, stay away from the plastic.

Internal speakers? Dont you mean EXternal? I'm looking forward to the new backs. my ipod touch whitch broke down few months back got nothing but scratchs..

I don't care for GPS. What's the point if you're just using WiFi anyways? But for such a design change, they might as well throw that in too.

You dont, but others do. Also, you dont need wi-fi to use GPS. How many times must that be said around here?


Anyways, I'm kinda frustrated right now. I'll still look forward to Tuesday. What I see then is what really matters.

Well people were frustrated over the "fat" nanos, now about half are still... but oh well, you cant please everyone...


Could it have an accelerometer, just like the iPhone and Touch?

my idea for the nano

a "vitual" click whell, When you turn it on its side, the controls flip to the right direction.

[Beric]

Last I checked Apple had a 13" laptop, two of them. :p

But so underspeced (or overpriced) no idiot would buy one.

Laptops from other manufacturers in similar price ranges as the Macbook tend to have better specs than the 17-inch Macbook Pro.

[mondesi43]

Can't really tell how curved the screen is, or if it is curved at all from those dimensions.


It looks like it might be curved slight at the top and bottom (if holding it for 16:9 viewing). You can see where the radius of the extrusion curves up to the radius of the screen. It looks like it will be a very flat curve though (big radius).

And to whoever said is looked like AutoCAD. Um, yeah it sure does. I bet these are just the 'blah' dwg's they give to the case manufacturers. They have to design in SolidWorks, ProE, UG, something along those lines. Giving those views doesn't give away the true ID.

[flambor]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_0_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5C1 Safari/525.20)

if the new iPod touch included GPS, does anybody think that apple might announce a turn-by-turn solution for the touch and iPhone? Maybe iTunes 8 could aid in the delivery of maps to devices. Or would this be a purely third-party thing?

[bigmc6000]

Anyone else notice that the diameters aren't dimensioned? It'd tend to think that's rather important - especially for the new nano...

[maxbarros]

+1

I dont mind, "nano" "classic" "shuffle" or "touch" but the other crap like iTouch brothers me..
iTouch your mom, sounds fantastic!

[.Chris]

iTouch your mom, sounds fantastic!

ummm my mom has been dead for 16 years. She died when I was two. So don't say **** like that....

[ryanwarsaw]

no one is mad,,,

and your mom worked at Buckingham elementary in bend in 1999

This is the guy that was insulting other peoples mothers earlier.

[bananas]

But so underspeced (or overpriced) no idiot would buy one.

Laptops from other manufacturers in similar price ranges as the Macbook tend to have better specs than the 17-inch Macbook Pro.

This idiot over here loves his overpriced MBA :D

..but I have to admit, that I'd like to see MacBook updated. (and I'm sure it will be, soon enough)

[Roessnakhan]

Yo' mama fight!

[will2k8]

I really want the new touch. Any idea how long it will be after the 9th for them to be on sale in store??

[.Chris]

I really want the new touch. Any idea how long it will be after the 9th for them to be on sale in store??

like a week or two. hopefully by the weekend after the 9th

[KindredMAC]

It would mean that I wouldn't have to run my AEBS in b/g/n compatible mode or have a separate b/g router just for the Touch or iPhone. THAT is the biggest benefit, and it *is* a big one to me.
yup me too.

Though in apples defense, my 3G iPod is still kicking on its original disk drive.

Oh yeah baby! I replaced the battery in my 10GB 3G iPod last year and it now serves as my Jeep iPod with the original iTrip!

[jeremytehjerk]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.

if that makes you mad i bet you will hate the new small touch screen model they are coming out with. its going to be like a watch and focus on personal settings but still use touch screen technology. Because of the focus on the individual experience it will be referred to as iTouch Myself.

[Beric]

This idiot over here loves his overpriced MBA :D

..but I have to admit, that I'd like to see MacBook updated. (and I'm sure it will be, soon enough)

I was talking about the Macbook and MBP. The MBA is actually supposed to be thin, and does so for a price. The MB and MBP are both twice as high-priced as their industry counterparts spec for spec, unless you care about thinness, which I don't.

[dmelgar]

Nano looks like a step back. I prefer the fatboy. New one seems like too much wasted space. Not obviously bigger screen. Awkward to see videos.

[Roessnakhan]

Nano looks like a step back. I prefer the fatboy. New one seems like too much wasted space. Not obviously bigger screen. Awkward to see videos.

Decide when you see it, that's the conclusion I came to on the fat iPod Nano, which I thought was ugly from the spy shots, but turned out to love it when I got it in hand.

[deannnnn]

Hmm... I can't believe all this info has made it out...

[morespce54]

...The new case appears to be slightly thicker than the existing iPod Touch and also reveals physical volume controls which are absent on the current iPod Touch.


That would be sweet. I don't really like to take my iPod out of my pocket only to lower the volume on one track and do it again for the next one. I know, there's that option called "Sound check" (which I never liked because it never really worked for me).

[slcoss]

So if Im reading this correctly:

New iPod nano: Height: 3.57 inches (90.75mm), Width 1.53 inches (38.75mm), Depth 0.24 inches (6.08mm) Total Volume: 1.311
Current iPod nano: Height: 2.75 inches (69.8 mm), Width: 2.06 inches (52.3 mm), Depth: 0.26 inch (6.5 mm) Total Volume: 1.473

New iPod touch: Height : 4.37 inches (111mm), Width: 2.43 inches (61.80mm), Depth 0.33 inches (8.40mm) Total Volume: 3.504
Current iPod touch: Height: 4.3 inches (110 mm), Width: 2.4 inches (61.8 mm), Depth: 0.31 inch (8 mm) Total Volume: 3.199

Don't forget that the new iPod touch has a curved back, so while on its thickest part it can be thicker than the existing iPod touch, the overall volume can be either bigger, the same or smaller than the existing one.

[sinafl]

Is anyone actually thinking of a possibility that the 8gb will be discontinued and we will see the 16gb as a starting price point (299)?

[RRRize]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.

Duuude. Slow it down before you bust a head gasket. It's not that serious.

[twoodcc]

well i guess this will be what they look like. i really don't want the touch to look just like the 3g iphone, but i guess it will

[ryanwarsaw]

Wouldn't a plastic back be an improvement over the current scratch magnet metal?

[Roessnakhan]

I would prefer if all iPods had he same backing as the first-gen iPhones.

[137489]

so much discussion over what people call the ipod touch. good lord, get a life, people. there's a war going on, a presidential election, the economy sucks, college tuition going through the roof . . . but let's gripe over someone calling the touch an itouch. yeah, this is a place for apple rumors, so how about talking about the apple rumors instead of boiling over on symantics.


Oh hey, don't forget Hurricanes - Been watching Hanna for days to see if it will hit my part of NC.

Ok, back to your rant.....

WE live in a ME generation, that has become non-tolerant, but must be tolerant over the wrong things. if people don't like what you say they will slam it in your face, but don't you dare say anything.

Truthfully, this world is about to boil over and with this presidential election being a 3-ring circus, it only going to get worse.

Now Back on Topic;

I have a 15gb 2004 model (classic or is that antique). This new one better be something good for me to upgrade and it better be priced right. As it stands now I have no use for this until it becomes more like a PDA, right now it is too close to the iphone, but still lacks features to make it anymore useful for me to want to carry it around.

To me, I say take the iphone and do the following:

1. Put a big drive in it to hold about 200 songs, plus our documents, emails, etc
2. copy/paste
3. make it work with iwork so that we can edit our documents on it.

Ok, just give me my tablet with a phone......

[Gasu E.]

I don't get the name "iPod". "Pod" is Greek for "foot." Maybe the "iPod touch" should be the "iDactyl".

[Beric]

Is anyone actually thinking of a possibility that the 8gb will be discontinued and we will see the 16gb as a starting price point (299)?

I thought that was all but settled.

8GB is just too small now, especially for Apple's flagship iPod. There's hardly a chance they'll keep it.

[FreeState]

Don't forget that the new iPod touch has a curved back, so while on its thickest part it can be thicker than the existing iPod touch, the overall volume can be either bigger, the same or smaller than the existing one.

Good point - same on the Nano - the volume is just a calculation from the stats on that page and the stats on Apples site for the current modles - neither take into account tapering.

[ryanwarsaw]

Oh hey, don't forget Hurricanes - Been watching Hanna for days to see if it will hit my part of NC.

Ok, back to your rant.....

WE live in a ME generation, that has become non-tolerant, but must be tolerant over the wrong things. if people don't like what you say they will slam it in your face, but don't you dare say anything.

Truthfully, this world is about to boil over and with this presidential election being a 3-ring circus, it only going to get worse.

Now Back on Topic;

I have a 15gb 2004 model (classic or is that antique). This new one better be something good for me to upgrade and it better be priced right. As it stands now I have no use for this until it becomes more like a PDA, right now it is too close to the iphone, but still lacks features to make it anymore useful for me to want to carry it around.

To me, I say take the iphone and do the following:

1. Put a big drive in it to hold about 200 songs, plus our documents, emails, etc
2. copy/paste
3. make it work with iwork so that we can edit our documents on it.

Ok, just give me my tablet with a phone......

The current one doesn't hold more than 200 songs?

[Edfrommars]

Wouldn't a plastic back be an improvement over the current scratch magnet metal?

No. It's not like plastic won't scratch either. Anyone serious about keeping scratches off would buy a case anyway. From a design standpoint, a metal back owns a plastic one.

[lazyrighteye]

Physical volume buttons. Good!

Wonder if that will equate physical speaker(s)?

[ryanwarsaw]

No. It's not like plastic won't scratch either. Anyone serious about keeping scratches off would buy a case anyway. From a design standpoint, a metal back owns a plastic one.

Okay, but my iPhone is certainly more scratch resistant than my nano was.

[DaveTheGrey]

IMHO this ipod nano design looks better than the current one. I think the slim form factor is better when you are into sports.

[Haoshiro]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.

While it used to bother me, I'd really rather not keep saying "iPhone/iPod Touch" when referring to the platform.

In that context, I think "iTouch" works well as a catch-all moniker for Apple's touch devices, which run the same software/os/are the same platform.

In a Mac-only circles where the specific device is referred to, I'd probably just call it the "Touch" :P

[Orng]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.

I don't want to alarm anyone, but I think somebody on the internet is wrong.

:-)

I'm just kidding, iTouch kinda bugs me too. Nobody says iNano, so what's with iTouch?

But at the same time, the last time I went on a crusade to correct everybody on the internet, I eventually got hungry and I had to go to the bathroom, so I lost enthusiasm for the project. Besides, it just devolved into bickering with my American friends over the U in Colour and Flavour.

Best just to let the wrong people be wrong and not waste pixels on it, unless it's life threatening or has other severe real-world implications.

What was that quote... "the problem with arguing with a fool is that it's hard for other people to tell who's the fool" Something like that.

[ryanwarsaw]

Uh oh, I think another can of worms has just been opened lol.

[137489]

Is anyone actually thinking of a possibility that the 8gb will be discontinued and we will see the 16gb as a starting price point (299)?


Ok, Maybe you sparked my interest.....

I do have one request:

ALLOW THE IPHONE TO RUN ON OTHER NETWORKS... I am locked into Sprint until 2010 and eligible for a phone upgrade in a couple of months. Please do not make me go with the new Samsung that heavily rivals the iphone.

Now does this thing still have the standard connector, so that I can still use my fm transmitter? I heard even in 2009, radio reception has to go digital as well, and all analog car radios will not work. i am not about to spend $800 for the dealer to put a new radio in my car (the way mine mounts, you have to remove the entire dashboard - arg these new cars. Cars 1990 and older I can repair everything myself; no thats impossible).

[eliotschreiner]

Man, I wouldn't buy that ipod nano if it was all curvy like that. It's probably thicker now than it used to be.

[Unspeaked]

The only thing I've gotten out of this thread is that I'm going to start calling it the iTouch now.

[137489]

The current one doesn't hold more than 200 songs?

It does, but my point is once you start loading document, apps, movies, etc. you lose space. What I am looking for is something that I will not have to carry my laptop around when I am on a w/e out. or on a week vacation. I want to hold about 3 movies, 200 songs, keep in touch with my email, and work on my documents.

90% of what I do is over the internet while i am away from home.

[ryanwarsaw]

There is no doubt that the Itouch has been good for my post count.

[3dollarbridge]

I noticed that there were no iPods at Costco when I was there today.

hmmmm??!!:confused:

[Beric]

The only thing I've gotten out of this thread is that I'm going to start calling it the iTouch now.

Really? Just calling it the "Touch" saves a character and offends less people. ;)

[ryanwarsaw]

It does, but my point is once you start loading document, apps, movies, etc. you lose space. What I am looking for is something that I will not have to carry my laptop around when I am on a w/e out. or on a week vacation. I want to hold about 3 movies, 200 songs, keep in touch with my email, and work on my documents.

90% of what I do is over the internet while i am away from home.

So aren't you just wishing for a larger hard rive? The amount of songs it holds is really up to you. As you get more apps and documents you could just sync less music.

[chadder007]

What would the benefits of N on the Touch or the iPhone be? Internet speeds for 99% of the users still is slower that the max speed of G...

Better range and more stable connection?

[kitch95]

If it has a plastic back like the iphone I'm sold:D Bring on september 9th :apple:

[frogcat]

i call mine slutpod. feed me to the wolves.

[Tosser]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.

Oh, I see. You must also think that people who called the titanium Powerbook "TiBook" are idiots who doesn't know anything about technology then :rolleyes:

It's a marketing term, not technology if you were in doubt. Besides, the Touch has all the markings of being an iConsumer Product.

[jholzner]

I don't get the name "iPod". "Pod" is Greek for "foot." Maybe the "iPod touch" should be the "iDactyl".

I think you are thinking of Ped and not Pod.

[CWallace]

I do have one request:

ALLOW THE IPHONE TO RUN ON OTHER NETWORKS... I am locked into Sprint until 2010 and eligible for a phone upgrade in a couple of months. Please do not make me go with the new Samsung that heavily rivals the iphone.

I believe the iPhone is locked into AT&T in the United States until around 2010 or so.

I heard even in 2009, radio reception has to go digital as well, and all analog car radios will not work.

Digital FM radio is now being broadcast (we have a few stations here in Seattle), however there are absolutely no plans whatsoever to stop analog broadcasts of AM and FM radio in the United States. Only US analog terrestrial television broadcasts are being ended in 2009.

[queshy]

The new nano looks ugly and weird...same thing though I thought for the current gen nano which I ended up liking. Please, everyone, wait for the announcement before making up your mind about these new products.

[The Tall One]

Apple doesn't do such a good job of keeping secrets. However, it might be a very clever marketing scheme... "leak" designs of upcoming produces to generate buzz and interest

[Desamell]

so much discussion over what people call the ipod touch. good lord, get a life, people. there's a war going on, a presidential election, the economy sucks, college tuition going through the roof .

This isn't a praise Obama Site.

[Beric]

Apple doesn't do such a good job of keeping secrets. However, it might be a very clever marketing scheme... "leak" designs of upcoming produces to generate buzz and interest

It's been done before.

However, I doubt it this time around.

[drjones2]

I would like to see a camera, a 20 GB HD, for $300 or less. That would really take the place of all the gadgets for me, since my cell phone I pay $15 every 3 months with Virgin Mobile. I need a phone, but don't use all the minutes.

[Orng]

I've been secretly pronouncing nano as "nay-no" in my head throughout this whole thread. Take that!

Speakers will definitely make me abandon my TouchPod for a new model... i'd prefer it if it could make some noise when I touch it. Ooh! :)

[Beric]

I would like to see a camera, a 20 GB HD, for $300 or less. That would really take the place of all the gadgets for me, since my cell phone I pay $15 every 3 months with Virgin Mobile. I need a phone, but don't use all the minutes.

Add GPS, speakers, and volume buttons on the side and I agree with you.

[137489]

So aren't you just wishing for a larger hard rive? The amount of songs it holds is really up to you. As you get more apps and documents you could just sync less music.

Large hard drive, lower price point, more useful apps.

If I am about to go spend $200 or more, I want something worthwild. otherwise I might as well stick with my 2004 antique model

[bushido]

It does, but my point is once you start loading document, apps, movies, etc. you lose space. What I am looking for is something that I will not have to carry my laptop around when I am on a w/e out. or on a week vacation. I want to hold about 3 movies, 200 songs, keep in touch with my email, and work on my documents.

90% of what I do is over the internet while i am away from home.

i have over 500 songs, tv shows, pictures, apps and musicvideos on my iPod Touch (16 GB) and i have still enough space left

[Tosser]

i have over 500 songs, tv shows, pictures, apps and musicvideos on my iPod Touch (16 GB) and i have still enough space left

I wonder at what quality all your "stuff" is ripped at.

[Orng]

Actually, I'm Canadian, but that's neither here nor there for this thread.

I have an iPod Touch, 6 months now, and I love it. The two features I would add if I was in charge of Apple (and sometimes I pretend I am) are speakers and improved location ability via GPS or better Wifi triangulation.

[decimortis]

I read through this entire thread and by the time I got to the end, had totally forgotten that it was about someone's mother using an iTouch with GPS.

[Super Geek]

What would the benefits of N on the Touch or the iPhone be? Internet speeds for 99% of the users still is slower that the max speed of G...

For me the advantage would be to run my airport extreme network in N only mode so i can actually get full N speeds and not half.

[iMacmatician]

I really don't like the new design. Not after it looks like a more tapered version of the 2G iPod nano. But I'll wait and see before judging for real.

[kockgunner]

I want physical volume controls too. I hate having to take my touch out of my pocket in the metro for fear of getting mugged haha. It's inconvenient too. I hope the make the buttons high quality like the 2G iPhone. I love the feel of those buttons!

It would be cool if they added a camera too. Imagine an 8 mm thin camera with a huge screen. It would be even cooler than an iPhone IMHO.

[ryanwarsaw]

If they have cheapened the buttons on the Iphone, why would they make quality ones for the Itouch?

In all seriousness though, Arn could you please step in and maybe remove this thread? I know more members are a good thing for your site but this is becoming a bit riddiculous.

[kprf]

Awesome. Can't wait for the update. Hopefully iPod 5G will get an update and will finally be able to display videos and photos :)

[Mjmar]

Slightly thicker might mean we'll see a hard drive version of the iPod Touch... Or something else added, like GPS. Why else would Apple make a product thicker?

[Master Debater]

Just a question about the rounded back of the iPhone and upcoming iTouch: If you put it on a flat surface, would it wobble around like crazy? I could think of a couple of apps where that would be really annoying.

Anyway, the blueprints for the new iTouch look cool! I really like the external buttons on the iTouch. Not sure about the rounded back on the iTouch, though. Either way, I'm pretty sure I am going to buy this new iTouch. I can't wait until they officially announce the new iTouch soon! iTouch rocks!

iTouch iTouch iTouch!

[Tosser]

Slightly thicker might mean we'll see a hard drive version of the iPod Touch... Or something else added, like GPS. Why else would Apple make a product thicker?

Because they want to make up for the loss in volume caused by tapering?

[ryanwarsaw]

Hard drive no, for many reasons but there are going to be some new features for sure.

[137489]

I would like to see a camera, a 20 GB HD, for $300 or less. That would really take the place of all the gadgets for me, since my cell phone I pay $15 every 3 months with Virgin Mobile. I need a phone, but don't use all the minutes.

Hey, now there is an idea. Truely give it everything of the phone without the phone. Then I can get rid of my palm centro and go back to paying only $20/month instead of the $60 I am now.

Samsung Instinct may be in my future, but who knows what will be out in February (that's when I am eligble for an upgrade without being charged exhorborant fees). Has everything the iphone has, but less money and with all my family being on sprint - I can talk to another sprint phone for free.

I would love to get an ipod touch with what you said and a camera (this way I would not have to pay for a data plan with sprint).

[137489]

I believe the iPhone is locked into AT&T in the United States until around 2010 or so.



Digital FM radio is now being broadcast (we have a few stations here in Seattle), however there are absolutely no plans whatsoever to stop analog broadcasts of AM and FM radio in the United States. Only US analog terrestrial television broadcasts are being ended in 2009.


I have actually heard a commercial pushing for digital and HD radios has they said radio will stop as well. Could by hype and false advertising - would not be the first time.

[CWallace]

The UK (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6564983.stm) has been considering such a move, but not the US.

[Tosser]

The UK (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6564983.stm) has been considering such a move, but not the US.

Denmark too (and Sweden for that matter).

[deannnnn]

Ok, Maybe you sparked my interest.....

I do have one request:

ALLOW THE IPHONE TO RUN ON OTHER NETWORKS...

What an interesting & intuitive idea.
I've never heard that before.

[Saladinos]

Or when people call the Macintosh the Mac.

Or call Mr. Jobs "Steve", like they're on first-name terms with him.

[Tosser]

Or call Mr. Jobs "Steve", like they're on first-name terms with him.

I don't use "Mr." at all. I however do use people's full name. Or simply "SJ".

Besides, "Mac" isn't just short for "Macintosh" anymore. It's the official name. It's not called the Macintosh Pro, but Mac Pro, if you guys haven't noticed.

Do you guys also correct people when they ask for a "coke". Do you demand they should say "Coca-Cola" and "Pepsi Cola"?
:rolleyes:

[sam10685]

It's iPod TOuch not iTouch that really makes me mad when people say iTouch they sound like idiots who don't know anything about technology.

Does it really matter??

[Jesstastic]

please let the touch have 80GB or more. if they can fit 80GB into the classic and keep it nice and thin they can do it with the touch too. i'll be so excited if it's atleast 80GB.

[NC MacGuy]

Not sure if I'd like a wobbly Nano.. I'll probably get a touch since I have no desire to switch to At&t. I'm looking forward to something new from Apple I can use or play with. Phones and TV/Apple TiVo aren't that high on my buy list.

[macshill]

iPod Flea is where it's AT, man! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAFrLfAgMbA

[danny_w]

Not sure if I'd like a wobbly Nano.. I'll probably get a touch since I have no desire to switch to At&t. I'm looking forward to something new from Apple I can use or play with. Phones and TV/Apple TiVo aren't that high on my buy list.
Won't the Touch be wobbly too?

[stoutboy1]

I am hoping for big price cuts... Half price iPods! Ya:D

[Black Belt]

Hmmmm...

"Let's Rock"

Rock=Earth

Earth=Terra

Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you the iPod TeraTouch! iTT for short. The first Terabyte iPod. Get iTT today and load your music and HD Video library on it, download your Digital SLR to it to store and view your RAW pictures on the road, and it also includes the new iTT Gaming Platform with HD resolution games like iTT Halo III and iTT World of Warcraft - everything thing you need for your digital life... in your pocket.

[CJM]

I say iTouch. I own one, so up yours to the haters.

I thought I was an Apple fanboy, but damn there are some pedantic prats around.

(had info on iTunes 8, then realised it was the wrong thread.)

[Spid]

Here is the iTablet leak picture...

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=133005&stc=1&d=1220477682

Is it bill who introduced the "Ultra Mobile Personal Computer" thing?

In addition to the new nano and touch, I hope to see this thing, but with the Apple and Steve Touch...

or even the iPlay/iGame stuff such:

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=133007&stc=1&d=1220477941

Spid

[ryanwarsaw]

Hmmmm...

"Let's Rock"

Rock=Earth

Earth=Terra

Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you the iPod TeraTouch! iTT for short. The first Terabyte iPod. Load your music and HD Video library on it, download your Digital SLR to it to store and view your RAW pictures on the road - everything thing you need for your digital life.

That's sweet, but I need that and the capability of it holding 200 songs on top of that. I get clogged up with documents.

[Cherimoya]

iPod Flea is where it's AT, man! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAFrLfAgMbA

Thanks for that. Brilliant. :D

[CyberGeek]

Having taken a look at these images, and having a bit of a background in drafting, I'm inclined to call fake. In all probability, a high school student in an intro to drafting class came up with these and then proceeded to parade them around as leaks.

The dimensions are arbitrarily scattered with very little useful information. If you're only going to give the outermost dimensions of the device as a high-level summary, why include the radius of the corner of the screen on the iPod touch? If you're going to give the radius of the corner of the screen, why not give the radii of the corners that are actually useful to case manufacturers, like, say, the corners of the device itself? Why give a dimension starting from the center of the iPod touch's screen to the center of the home button, rather than starting from the top or bottom of the device? For that matter, there's no actual center line drawn across the middle of the iPod touch's screen, so while the dimension appears to start at the middle, you can't actually know, ergo the dimension is totally useless. Why give (what I can only assume is) a cross section of the iPod nano? Why mark the thickness of the iPod nano on the cross section rather than the normal side view? Why have the right edge of the thickness dimension go all the way down to the bottom of the screen? Why are volume buttons represented on the iPod touch image, but the hold switch is not represented on the iPod nano?

I could easily go on, but the point is that these images are of very little information to anyone who would have a use for them. Essential dimensions are omitted, and nonsense dimensions are included. The overall construction is also simply shoddy. I've seen actual Apple dimensions for their iPods (I think anyone can, just go to developer.apple.com and click "Designing cases for iPod and iPhone" at the bottom of the first page. I don't think you even have to sign in,) and they are done far, far more professionally. These images are useful neither to case manufacturers nor the manufacturers of the devices themselves. So again I suggest that the images are fake.

Edit: actually, upon further reflection, seeing as the school year just began, the person I suspect made these is probably actually just starting a second year drafting course and got bored while the teacher was explaining the disclosure.

[macshill]

That Bill Gates PSP is Old Skool (post #209). The PSP-3000 is coming out soon enough. :D

http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/20/sony-gets-official-with-psp-3000/

[Clayne]

Internal speakers? Dont you mean EXternal? I'm looking forward to the new backs. my ipod touch whitch broke down few months back got nothing but scratchs..

Yeah, sorry. When I hear external, I think of separate speakers hooking up through the headphone jack. As far as scratches go, I'd much rather have scratches on a durable metal back than cracks on a plastic back.

You dont, but others do. Also, you dont need wi-fi to use GPS. How many times must that be said around here?

Obviously, I'm complaining based on my own opinions and expectations. :p

Well people were frustrated over the "fat" nanos, now about half are still... but oh well, you cant please everyone...

Point taken. Although I liked the fat ones. I just don't like the bulged curved look of the touch on that blueprint. Maybe when I see it, I'll think differently, or when I find out what they needed to make room for.

[Virgil-TB2]

It does, but my point is once you start loading document, apps, movies, etc. you lose space. What I am looking for is something that I will not have to carry my laptop around when I am on a w/e out. or on a week vacation. I want to hold about 3 movies, 200 songs, keep in touch with my email, and work on my documents.

90% of what I do is over the internet while i am away from home.I don't know what planet you are from but my iPod is (currently) holding 1288 songs, 10 podcasts, 4 TV shows, 3 feature length movies, and a bunch of notes, applications, etc.

Oh, also a few thousand contacts and all my email. ;)

[gcmexico]

the nano looks sweet!! might have to get it

[slapppy]

The site for the leaked cases crashed. :D

[ryanwarsaw]

I don't know what planet you are from but my iPod is (currently) holding 1288 songs, 10 podcasts, 4 TV shows, 3 feature length movies, and a bunch of notes, applications, etc.

Oh, also a few thousand contacts and all my email. ;)
Yes but it has to hold 200 songs for when you go away on WE.

[Virgil-TB2]

... http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/09/03/133402-touch2g_400.jpg...I believed this rumour at first, probably because it's exactly what I *wanted* to believe (that the new iPod will have a camera). :) Now I am not so sure.

If you take a close look at these drawings, there are several questionable errors that would make it unlikely they could be used to program tool and die equipment for the necessary molds.


on the top of the "back view" on the right the radiating lines describing the curve are themselves curved. This makes no sense in terms of the 3D object being described (at least to my eye).

the line on the same view just above the median makes no sense also because it's angled. This is either a mistake, or a line demarking a removable piece like a battery cover?

the hash lines on the side view on the extreme right also make no sense in that this is generally done on a flat surface. They also, very unprofessionally, go over the edge of the outline.


So please, whomever made up this (apparent) fake ... do I get the prize for pointing out all the flaws? :D Did I miss any?

Either that or the average American case manufacturer hires twelve year olds to do their CAD work, which of course entirely possible.

[blubox]

I agree. People saying iTouch instead of iPod touch is a pet peeve of mine.

I agree too. iPod touch.

[MrPlywood]

If I can't call the iPod touch the iTouch, then I will start calling the iPhone the Phone.

[Clayne]

If I can't call the iPod touch the iTouch, then I will start calling the iPhone the Phone.

or the iPod Phone.

[kystocks]

[QUOTE=.Chris;6159169]well most the people i know who call it an iTouch are around 13-15 years old... so theres your answer...


Hey. I'm 13. I would never call it an itouch! I do know a lot about technology. I have upgraded a PowerMac G4 and an iMac G3. I have a total of 6 macs in my house. 2 iMacs, 3 PowerBooks, and a G4.

Sorry if I came off a little stupid sounding but not all 13-15 year olds are like that.

[ryanwarsaw]

[QUOTE=.Chris;6159169]well most the people i know who call it an iTouch are around 13-15 years old... so theres your answer...


Hey. I'm 13. I would never call it an itouch! I do know a lot about technology. I have upgraded a PowerMac G4 and an iMac G3. I have a total of 6 macs in my house. 2 iMacs, 3 PowerBooks, and a G4.

Sorry if I came off a little stupid sounding but not all 13-15 year olds are like that.

you have 6 Macs

On that note I am going to sleep.

[137489]

Denmark too (and Sweden for that matter).

Then it probably won't be long for the US to do away with analog radio.

[Mr. Giver '94]

/BARFS/ I really hope that that isn't the new Nano design. It looks sooooo ugly and unusable because it will wobble everytime I put it on a flat surface. There's no way I'd buy one if it looks like that and has a screen like that. Regarding the iPod touch, I don't understand why Apple is bulking up their products. It seems like a giant step backwards. Looks like "Let's get ready to suck" is going to be the new slogan for this event. /Sighs in disappointment/ :mad:

[137489]

I don't know what planet you are from but my iPod is (currently) holding 1288 songs, 10 podcasts, 4 TV shows, 3 feature length movies, and a bunch of notes, applications, etc.

Oh, also a few thousand contacts and all my email. ;)

Cool, like I said - I am using a 15gb 2004 model. Ok, after 9/9 this may be the year I upgrade - we shall see

[Marky_Mark]

Not that my opinion counts for much, but I quite like 'iTouch'. I think it better represents the punch and simplicity Apple's famous for.

I don't like 'MacBook'. 'PowerBook' always did it for me.

[zap2]

I'm hope for a nice price cut across the board, and if these rumors of 199 iPod touch is true, then we're gonna see it! I really don't know where it levels the other mode thought....unless Apple keeps the Nano at 8Gbs, which would be a downer.

49 for iPod shuffle 2Gb
99 for iPod nano 4Gb
149 for iPod nano 8Gb
199 for iPod touch 8Gb
299 for iPod touch 16Gb
399 for iPod touch 32Gb
249 for iPod classic 120Gb
349 for iPod classic 240Gb

I mean, I'd rather see

49 for iPod shuffle 2Gb
79 for iPod shuffle 4Gb
99 for iPod nano 8Gb
149 for iPod nano 16Gb
199 for iPod touch 16Gb
299 for iPod touch 32Gb
399 for iPod touch 64Gb
249 for iPod classic 120Gb
349 for iPod classic 240Gb

But I don't know if thats in Apple's profit margins.

[Roessnakhan]

I like those prices!

[137489]

[QUOTE=.Chris;6159169]well most the people i know who call it an iTouch are around 13-15 years old... so theres your answer...


Hey. I'm 13. I would never call it an itouch! I do know a lot about technology. I have upgraded a PowerMac G4 and an iMac G3. I have a total of 6 macs in my house. 2 iMacs, 3 PowerBooks, and a G4.

Sorry if I came off a little stupid sounding but not all 13-15 year olds are like that.

6 macs? 1 for each member of the family? Man and my wife was concerned about me buying her a mini because of the cost of a new computer... we only have 2 macs. My macbook and her mini

[macshill]

Not that my opinion counts for much, but I quite like 'iTouch'. I think it better represents the punch and simplicity Apple's famous for.

I don't like 'MacBook'. 'PowerBook' always did it for me.

"PowerBook" reminds me of an ancient machine. But that's only because they retired the name.

[alphaod]

So it will have a plastic back.

[137489]

iPod Flea is where it's AT, man! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAFrLfAgMbA

PLay only one song then.. Its the new iphone ring tone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJeo9OPokKA

And yes my parakeet still does that to that song. Mouths the words and bobs his head on the mirror like he's dialing a phone.

[Marky_Mark]

"PowerBook" reminds me of an ancient machine. But that's only because they retired the name.

No, no...not 'ancient'....'classic' :D

[macman7002]

It would be really cool, if the new iPod touch looked like the iPhone 3G, has an external speaker with a volume rocker, and had web and email service anywhere, like with the iPhone but no phone/calling plan.
Just an idea.

[Spid]

That Bill Gates PSP is Old Skool (post #209). The PSP-3000 is coming out soon enough. :D

http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/20/sony-gets-official-with-psp-3000/

Macshill,

Actually the Bill picture is the one from his introduction of the UMPC (redo with the apple itablet mockup).

For the new PSP... yes indeed, it's coming soon... I can't wait!

Spid

[Sam Yikin]

I hope you all realize there is ZERO chance of a data plan for the iPod touch.

[macshill]

No, no...not 'ancient'....'classic' :D

Oooooh... I stand corrected! ;) :apple:

[untviking]

That touch design looks a lot like these images. (http://www.intomobile.com/2008/06/07/leaked-3g-iphone-pics-hit-the-web-iphone-2-to-get-ideo-chat-available-in-red-maybe.html)
I tried to find that image in the archives but didn't have any luck.

[wbeasley]

what happened to all the widescreen talk?

if you want to watch movies on a small screen, you want more a 16:9 ratio screen. no black bars (well, ok less black bars on wide, wide screen films).

it just looks like the same screen (and probably still 320x240 res) turned sideways.

the 3" (480x270) screen on the Samsung P2 would be better for movies - if only the damn thing played more formats... guess you can't win!

on another note, i'm really hanging out that iTunes store goes 256kbs DRM free on everything. Now that would encourage me to buy more music there. Until now I only buy DRM stuff you can't buy in shops on CD (old stuff that stores don't stock on CD). Bring on the DRM free tunes!!!

[cobalts]

I've been posting my speculations around and haven't seen similar opinions on this thread yet, so here it goes.

1. iPod Nano: internal wifi antenna

2. iPod Touch:
A. IR +/- RF and light sensor for expanded remote functions
B. Some hardware updates to make apps more cross-compatible (e.g., camera, crappy speaker/microphone; probably not GPS, just because they have no other source for maps than Google. On the other hand, a lot of the best apps include localization features, so who knows).

3. iTunes 8.0:
A. audio streaming to Nano
B. audio streaming to Touch (maybe video)
C. streaming functions over any network
D. music stream is tied to each individual user/PMP to collect behavioral data (music listening behavior) which are used to generate individual playlists and to suggest new music
E. sharing library with friends (just like Simplify Media's app)

I'm a little skeptical about Apple getting into the individualized music streaming business, just because it's a new business model involving paying streaming music royalties, which have caused so much trouble for Pandora Radio, internet radio, etc. However, maybe they'll ask you to buy a certain amount of music in exchange, just like those CD clubs where you got 12 CDs for one penny and then tried to scam your way out of the rest. But there's no doubt that that behavioral data connecting listeners to new music is valuable to an effort like the iTunes store. I just hope they push event information like LastFM does, instead of just pushing recordings. Living, performing artists benefit most from live performances, and a lot of people would like to know where to see live music, not just buy recordings. However, Apple and recording companies really only benefit from the sale of recordings, so who knows.

Anyway, my two cents.

[goinskiing]

DRM-Free iTunes (with the ability to UN-DRM old purchases would be welcome, but not expected) would be quite nice.

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but would an iPod Touch with hybrid flash and hard disk be possible. Flash interface, hard disk storge?

Why GPS or 802.11n on the Touch?

Should be interesting though, can't wait!

[lucasmonger]

As a long-time apple fan, I can't believe Apple will follow the Zune by adding a tall screen on top of a click wheel. Say it isn't so!!! The pictures and diagrams showing up all over the web seem overwhelmingly consistent. My only sliver of hope now is that all this is misinformation released by Apple so we will be truly surprised come Sept 9th.

I'd much prefer a simplified touch screen on a 2 inch display with no click wheel. Add a flexible top layer with a virtual clickwheel with some physical click behind the LCD and I'll be in hog heaven.

[deannnnn]

well most the people i know who call it an iTouch are around 13-15 years old... so theres your answer...

Don't insult the kids.
I just turned 18, so I'm officially not a "kid" anymore... but I know what it's like and you'd be surprised that there are kids out there who know more about this stuff than you do.

[Pigumon]

Looks entirely credible. Looking forward to the iTouch.

There is no Apple product called the iTouch because that's a really stupid name. That's like people who call San Francisco - FRISCO. You can't get any lamer.

Just call it the "Touch" if you really can't handle saying two whole words of a product name.


Plus, if you say touch, then you can say things like "you've got the touch? YOU GOT THE POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERR, YEAH!" :cool:

[nvbrit]

For the new iPod touch, definitely no data plan. It's not a phone, it's an iPod that was designed for the people who don't want the phone part, so don't anyone expect any phone technology for 3g or edge or any anything else.

There may be GPS, probably larger capacity but I am hoping for a camera and maybe a microphone.

[soloduo]

price cut for imac check it out here http://tinyurl.com/57r986

[Sam Yikin]

price cut for imac check it out here http://tinyurl.com/57r986

If that's real... wow.

[noahrobd]

I agree. People saying iTouch instead of iPod touch is a pet peeve of mine.

The first time I read a post w/ someone referring to the "touch" as an iTouch, I just assumed they were calling it iTouch for short. (Like I just referred to it as just "touch" for short.) Accepted short names or nick names are given to other technology products that aren't the official names, such as Pizza Box Box Macs, Wind Tunnel g4's. What's wrong with giving the iPod touch a nick name for short? Its not nearly as bad as people pronouncing the X in Mac OS X as "ex" instead of "ten".

[Clayne]

price cut for imac check it out here http://tinyurl.com/57r986

cool!

I'll probably never buy an iMac, but if I did, those look pretty sweet.

[alexlovesmacs]

I wish, a glossy back like the iPhone, volume controls on the side. Also a camera but it is'nt likely.

[ThirteenXIII]

Itd be nice to have Wireless syncing capabilities with the new nanos and touch, perhaps in a new iTunes?


i mean if the *gag* zune has it....and apple is all about wireless these days, id think its just about time for it?



:p

[iParis]

I agree with the other posters who get angry with people who say iTouch.
They sound very unintelligent.
It's iPod touch people, not iTouch; get it through your head.

I'm very glad to see a new design.
Maybe since it's a little thicker they are able to fit in enough chips for a 64GB version.
But one thing I found disappointing is the absence of a camera.

[FreeState]

price cut for imac check it out here http://tinyurl.com/57r986

I call fake. Look at the URL its the same as what is live... its not a screen shot from an intranet.

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac?mcp=MTE3MDM and that is not an in

[Roessnakhan]

Not to mention there appears to be a spelling error under the hard drive of the second choice for some reason. Nor do I trust someone who bookmarks Jackass footage.

[ddTaylor]

Since it is thicker, it better have a lot more memory as a trade off. Also it may have true gps and some other features since it is bulking up. I personally like the slimmer design, but will take the slightly thicker one as long as it is a major rehaul. 80211.n would be nice as well.

I am being serious here - but why in the Hell would ANYONE need 802.11N on a small and portable device? The device itself at that point is the limiting factor and not the protocol used for data transmission and reception. I cannot get anywhere near the speed on my iPod Touch that I can on my MacBook ir other Macs in the house, including old G4's. So why the need for N?

D

[ryanwarsaw]

I am being serious here - but why in the Hell would ANYONE need 802.11N on a small and portable device? The device itself at that point is the limiting factor and not the protocol used for data transmission and reception. I cannot get anywhere near the speed on my iPod Touch that I can on my MacBook ir other Macs in the house, including old G4's. So why the need for N?

D

As has been said earlier, it could use it because it slows an n network down to g speeds for all devices on that network.

[na1577]

Hm. Nothing unexpected.

The touch's upgrade is unsurprisingly minor. I think everyone expected the volume controls, as that was one of the most requested features. I'm a bit surprised that Apple added the plastic back, but I guess they didn't want to have to make it thicker than the current generation. The lack of camera is disappointing, but again, was expected. Despite the fact that I've upgraded my iPod each year 2005, I think I will sit this one out. The only thing that was going to sway me to upgrade again, was a camera.

[rockinthecave]

I call fake. Look at the URL its the same as what is live... its not a screen shot from an intranet.

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac?mcp=MTE3MDM and that is not an in


Yeah, I agree, this looks like a fake, at the bottom of the screen shot the picture and description of the product are the same as it currently is on the apple website, but apple usually updates their pics and descriptions when they update the product (Because this isn't just a price cut)

[Lyra]

I have a feeling I'll end up buying (in a hurry) the old Black Chubby 8GB Nano...

I think it's a perfect fit for running etc. It's one of the nicest designs... I can't understand why they would actually change that... But then it's Apple and they don't ALWAYS make the right choices...

:(

[zap2]

price cut for imac check it out here http://tinyurl.com/57r986

I be suprised. 990, and the 1999, seems off Apple's X99 price set up. But I'd love to see it!

[shigzeo]

if the headphone out put is clean like the 3g, i am probably going to jump on the 'buy' bandwagon: for shame

[iTeen]

if the headphone out put is clean like the 3g, i am probably going to jump on the 'buy' bandwagon: for shame
Might as well jump on now.

It will have a clean headphone jack...i will bet anything.

[shigzeo]

sadly, inclusion (or not) of the dedicated volume handling alone would make me change my ipod now and put mine up on headfi.org.

i love my touch but that would make the touch just about ultimate. gps im sure will not arrive: i can live without that but it is hard in the mountains with lovely paths all around: i just want speed and sometimes i take a wrong turn to a long way away from home: tough times indeed.

oh yes and : nano is actually iPod nano, not nano. touch is actually iPod touch, not touch. iPod is actually Apple iPod and ibuds do not exist.

whatever is easier to say, say it. who bloody cares?

[Lesser Evets]

Volume controls...

As if perhaps there is an external speaker so we can play games and not need ear buds? Hope springs eternal.

[iParis]

whatever is easier to say, say it. who bloody cares?

I can see where you're coming from.
And it's not like you would say iNano or iClassic or iShuffle; those all sound really stupid.
But I would rather people call it Touch than iTouch; iTouch is actually a rip off version of the iPod touch.
I suppose if were talking about the iPod touch a lot in a post and had to type it more than once it wouldn't be a problem if you used Touch a few times instead.
It's just that iTouch really irritates me and I don't want people cussing me out because of that.