Microsoft's First Seinfeld Ad Airs: Shoe Circus

[Telonius]

My mom called me and asked if I had seen this ad.


Then again... She just bought an iMac yesterday to replace her PC.

[Tosser]

I'm an art photographer and have exhibited widely in different countries in galleries where I am represented on a commission basis,which if your not familiar with the term means that I am an established artist. Whilst most of my work is printed on Ilfochrome paper I still use iPhoto and Aperture sometimes.
LOL, your comment had NAUGHT to do with familiarity of some technical terms, what are you on about? Or are you saying that common words and concepts are too hard to fathom for an art photographer?


I'm sorry, but you're not an art photographer by any stretch.

The part where you claim to "still" be using Aperture is really a quality Hands Sandonism par excellence – I mean, unless you work with analogue cameras, you have to use _some_ sort of photo editing app. But perhaps your "art" is simply printed "as is" OR use photoshop.


Anyway, I'm taking Aiden's advice. You're clearly here to troll and mouth off about anything while knowing nothing.

[RZetlin]

My first thought was, "What was the point of the commercial?"

We got Bill Gates, Jerry Seinfeld and shoes.

Is Microsoft trying to sell shoes?

Not the best promotion of Microsoft products.

[Eric S.]

Most people seem to be overlooking that this is the first step in an advertising campaign. The first goal is to get people's attention - and 1260 posts in less than four days shows it's worked pretty well, at least judging from MacRumors readers. Subsequent spots will take the emphasis in different directions.

[Hands Sandon]

I currently use an FM3a which replaced my Nikon FM2 and print Ilfochromes from the slide film(transparency)on Ilfochrome paper(used to be called Cibachrome-when Ilford bought it they changed the name)I do Drum scans of a lot of my work and sometimes to digital prints on custom chromira Fuji-flex paper which I find closely matches the high gloss and saturation of Ilfochromes. I m currently working on a show of work which Will all be printed digitaly from the Drum scans and have found iPhoto easy and quick to see the photographs cropped the way I want them before printing. I love Michael Kenna's photography,how do you rate it,Oh I forgot,your not going to respond Ha Ha@you!!!!

[czachorski]

The first goal is to get people's attention - and 1260 posts in less than four days shows it's worked pretty well, at least judging from MacRumors readers.

I'm not so sure. It's not like I saw this ad on TV and them came here to talk about it. I saw this thread, followed the link, watched it, and then commented on it. I am not sure, but I suspect that most of the posters in this thread did the same. So I am not so sure that you can use the post count in this thread as evidence for the ad getting people's attention.

[Eric S.]

It's not like I saw this ad on TV and them came here to talk about it. I saw this thread, followed the link, watched it, and then commented on it.

Fine - it's not like you have to first see the ad without ever being aware of it. It's just the same if it's word-of-mouth, like "hey, did you see new ad with Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld?" It still works to get people's attention.

[czachorski]

Fine - it's not like you have to first see the ad without ever being aware of it. It's just the same if it's word-of-mouth, like "hey, did you see new ad with Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld?" It still works to get people's attention.

Or in this case, "word of forum", right? Sure, it doesn't really matter where you first heard of it, if they get you talking about it, then you are talking about it. Make sense. But I still think it is relevant to point out that the size of this thread is more indicative of the size of this community, more so than the size of the commercial's audience out there talking about the ad.

[Eric S.]

But I still think it is relevant to point out that the size of this thread is more indicative of the size of this community, more so than the size of the commercial's audience out there talking about the ad.

Yes, right. I don't know any data on the ad's effect in the entire commercial audience. And presumably MacRumors readers are more "in-the-know" about these things than the average person, who is much less likely to have caught on to it yet. But still, the huge amount of posts here in such a short time qualifies it as an unusually hot MacRumors topic at least.

[jcoop]

Terrible, terrible, lame ad. Is it really going to get people talking? Do people talk about Jerry Seinfeld anymore?

The whole reference to the edible computer brought to mind the Will Ferrell "Switch" ad that Apple ran at Macworld New York early in the decade (Youtube here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jYjnEoxUPQ)--I don't think it was ever broadcast). That ad had two advantages over the current Microsoft ad: first, it was genuinely funny, and second, it actually made the advertised product sound good and useful.

[Chandler Adaway]

Terrible, terrible, lame ad. Is it really going to get people talking? Do people talk about Jerry Seinfeld anymore?

It got you talking.
Along with the 1000+ other people just in this thread.

[Val-kyrie]

I happened to catch the commercial on TV last night, but I didn't get it. I decided to watch it a couple of more times today on youtube, and then it dawned on me: The commercial makes about as much sense as the whole windows OS does. Now I get it!

Even as a Windows user, my mom expressed a similar sentiment; though she said, "How stupid!"

[czachorski]

But still, the huge amount of posts here in such a short time qualifies it as an unusually hot MacRumors topic at least.

Oh, no doubt. It is pretty amazing how fast this thing hit 50 pages.

[AidenShaw]

But I still think it is relevant to point out that the size of this thread is more indicative of the size of this community...


..or the loquaciousness of this community.

After all, a story about a banner hung from Yerba Buena is now at 491 posts....and the banner is nothing more than an image from the current Ipod campaign that we've all seen a zillion times ;)

[AidenShaw]

I currently use an FM3a........

He'd smack you alongside the head, and say 'focus on the image, not the tools'.

And, by the way, you haven't said anything that I couldn't have invented after 10 minutes of Yahoo! (avoid Google, they're the next evil monopoly) searches. (In a recent attic cleanup, I tossed all of my Cibachrome wet darkroom gear - haven't mixed chemicals in 20 years, not going to do it anytime soon...)

The only way for you to get any cred at this point is to give us the URLs for some of your gallery exhibitions. Without that, we'll all consider you a poser.


...unless you work with analogue cameras...

Umm, "silver cameras" are not analog in the slightest. The film is covered with molecules of silver halides, which trap photons when exposed. During the process of developing the film, the chemicals separate out the "1's" (the molecules which have trapped a photon) from the "0's" (those that haven't).

The notion of "grain" in photography inherently backs up the notion that silver cameras aren't analog.

[This explanation is for black&white silver photography, the chemistry for color is different - but has the notion of some molecules catching a photon and changing color.]


Anyway, I'm taking Aiden's advice. You're clearly here to troll and mouth off about anything while knowing nothing.

I couldn't resist taunting the troll one more time...


Oh, no doubt. It is pretty amazing how fast this thing hit 50 pages.

You must be reading in the "delicious future" - I only see 32 pages....

[olternaut]

Shoe circus. :rolleyes:

That ad was a circus alright!

[AidenShaw]

The image is the tools. Ha Ha@you!!!!

Which obviously explains why you are wasting your time posting here, rather than creating art for your commissioned gallery exhibitions.

Those exhibitions are a figment of your imagination, until we see the URLs.... Or at least show us some images. I can appreciate artistic vision and skill in the realization, even if I wouldn't want the picture in my home. (I see lots of fascinating stuff at SFMOMA, but no way would I put it in my house. On the other hand, I have a half dozen pieces at home from artists who have work in the collection at the de Young.)

:p

[AppleNewton]

I'm an art photographer and have exhibited widely in different countries in galleries where I am represented on a commission basis,which if your not familiar with the term means that I am an established artist. Whilst most of my work is printed on Ilfochrome paper I still use iPhoto and Aperture sometimes.

commission famission...doesnt mean youre established; probably means unfortunate clients are being robbed by a fraud.

a widely exhibited and represented artitst/photographer?
I've never heard of you; so you must not be that known....or widely represented .....



About the ad though.......
I tried to decipher it in many ways, keeping an open mind about some possibility of relevance and not getting too deep into it....
Does the discounted shoe store mean....Microsoft has alot of selection of products/OS' with varying degree of sizes/shapes for anyone/everyone at lower prices?

lol....on another note...no idea. lol :p:p:p :confused:

[olternaut]

Seinfeld phoned that one in. Hell, he slept walked through it. He must be laughing hysterically all the way to the bank (to cash in that fat 10 million dollar check) and saying to hiimself....."lol I made him wiggle his butt!" "Hahahahaa what a loser!" :D

[AppleNewton]

Seinfeld phoned that one in. Hell, he slept walked through it. He must be laughing hysterically all the way to the bank (to cash in that fat 10 million dollar check) and saying to hiimself....."lol I made him wiggle his butt!" "Hahahahaa what a loser!" :D

Lol...and that hes still a Mac user :p:p:p :D:D

[Hands Sandon]

I'll have to watch it again,he's not wearing a black turtle neck is he? He's definately got the trainers and straight cut blue jeans.

[Aranince]

I think the commercial is funny...but not meaning full in any way.

[AidenShaw]

Does the discounted shoe store mean....

A year from now we'll know what it meant.

Right now, all we know is that Bill and Jerry ran into each other at a mall, and apparently parked in the same section of the parking lot so they walked out to their cars together.

And, we know that they both like churros. There's also an odd subtext about delicious computers and a butt-wiggle, which is really most likely about "nothing".


Anything else is speculation....

[charlituna]

i guess the kind of people who dont get it are the kind of people who probably thought Russel Brand was rubbish at the VMA's.
:)

actually I not only thought he was rubbish, I thought he was a rude jerk for making his main joke going after the Jonas Brothers because they have pledged to stay virgins until marriage. and aren't shy about admitting this publicly.

in a world where Gossip Girl is the role model for teens these boys should be praised to taking a difficult and less popular road. not turned into a joke on live tv.

the whole thing made Brand look like a total jackass.

[ztigerpaw]

I know exactly what happens. Seinfeld,who's really playing Jobs takes an axe and smashes Bill Gates skull into a gazillion micro pieces. Then they all live happily ever after!

*wiggles his butt* :p

[hotsauce]

actually I not only thought he was rubbish, I thought he was a rude jerk for making his main joke going after the Jonas Brothers because they have pledged to stay virgins until marriage. and aren't shy about admitting this publicly.

in a world where Gossip Girl is the role model for teens these boys should be praised to taking a difficult and less popular road. not turned into a joke on live tv.

the whole thing made Brand look like a total jackass.

Didn't Britney Spears make the same vow? Hope the Jonas bros last longer than that.

[qoqo]

I think this ad is chock full of metaphor that will only become apparent in hindsight after future ads are released. Anyone notice how many times "10" was mentioned?

Seinfeld: He's a 10.
Employee: 10
Seinfeld: That's a 10.
Seinfeld: Guess what Bill, you're a 10.

Hmm.

And what's with Gate's knowing look from :20 through :22 after:

Seinfeld: What is it?
Gates: Leather.

Leather...shuffle around a bit "The real" The real 10. The real X.

Just kidding. Truth be told, I think it was just another stupid commercial littering the wasteland that is American TV.

[cafeprimo]

Hackneyed attempt at a rebuke. I was hoping for more. The only real MS content was after they leave the mall (after 1 min. mark). They could have started the commercial around that point. Sorry, this was a time waster. Does anyone notice that there was a lot of background noise around the punchline? Certainly could have re-done that.

On another note, glad to see others focusing on the ad, and not flaming each other--why does that seem to happen eventually in forums?! Even if one is "rude" keep on message. By the way, just because we are talking about it doesn't make the commercial good content, just good fodder.

One last note, at least Steve Jobs doesn't feel the need to star in his ads. Both Seinfeld and Gates have awkward moments on camera, some dead air. I don't know who was worse. I like how Gates looks confused at Seinfeld's "shower+clothes" comment; an apt moment for the entire ad.

[a456]

Here's an extract from the MSNBC site:

Rather than getting our attention and making us wonder what those wacky Microsoft advertising folks might think of next, we found our mind wandering to other questions like, "When will this commercial end?"

The ad falls especially flat when compared to the obvious thorn in Microsoft’s side -- rival Apple’s widely successful series of spots that have poked fun at Microsoft’s staid image.

The "I’m a Mac/I’m a PC" ads work because they are quick, funny and, most important, they entertain us while actually promoting the product in question.

Microsoft’s ad, by contrast, doesn’t lay out any clear advertising strategy. Rather than taking on Apple’s franchise, it risks reinforcing the very things that Apple makes fun of Microsoft for.

What? Even a Microsoft copyrighted site is slamming Microsoft. Can things get any worse for them?

http://adblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/08/1362333.aspx

[Pikemann Urge]

What? Even a Microsoft copyrighted site is slamming Microsoft. Can things get any worse for them?
Just enjoy the ad. I liked it. It's like having Seinfeld back on, even for only 90sec. Of course it won't likely have any effect as creative ads are not really the best way to sell a product... but that's not our problem! Just enjoy it. And if you don't... go watch something else.

[Undecided]

Wow, after suffering through that awful ad, and I had to balance things out. So I flipped over to the Apple ads and watched Pep Rally.

"PC's number 2, PC's number 2!"

[bub9001]

If you want a little more insight from a geekier stand point, check out TWIT 159 where Leo and the gang break down the symbolism of this commercial. I would have to say if they are wrong about their theory then I don't thing Microsoft will be able to explain it ever.

[Paradigm]

How does this add show Windblows is better than Mac?

I do like the add. Pleather, and the look that Bill and Jerry give each other. How many takes did it take before they didn't bust out laughing?

[AidenShaw]

How does this add show Windblows is better than Mac?

It launches a campaign - it wasn't meant to get into details yet.


Re blog quote: "The "I’m a Mac/I’m a PC" ads work because they are quick, funny and, most important, they entertain us while actually promoting the product in question."

The Apple ads are also taken in context of the entire campaign.

In isolation, some of them would be certain WTF moments - but they're not in isolation. Each one is a chapter in the dialogue between Mac and PC, each one has much implied by what you know about the characters.

Microsoft's campaign is just starting - and they're building the foundation for future ads.

[applelover91k]

That totally makes me want to go buy a copy of Vista.

Seriously though, that could be a commercial for anything until the end until they're like "oh, by the way, this is a commercial for Windows, we almost forgot."

Yeah, it's definetly like by the way the commerical is for this. I hate those commericals. Microsoft is just trying to make funny commercials like the mac. Sorry they can't, because we will always dominate, nothing on a pc is better than a mac. :apple:

[AidenShaw]

...nothing on a pc is better than a mac. :apple:

What about Adobe CS4 -- 64-bit on Windows, still 32-bit on OSX...

[Klaxons2012]

I'd like to see a Mac/PC ad where PC is standing in front of a Brick Background with a drummer and a Microphone and he tells a bunch of non-sequiters while Mac attempts to talk about the new Macbook. It would be hilarious and would probably sink Microsoft's ad campaign.

[Hands Sandon]

Given the terrible reviews Microsoft will probably drop the ads completely,which would be sad,cos they sure are drumming up more interest in Apple.

[MacBass]

*wiggles his butt* :p

Now in this new interface, is the butt wiggle CTRL+ALT+DEL or is it FORMAT STARTUP DISK?

[czachorski]

It launches a campaign - it wasn't meant to get into details yet.


Re blog quote: "The "I’m a Mac/I’m a PC" ads work because they are quick, funny and, most important, they entertain us while actually promoting the product in question."

The Apple ads are also taken in context of the entire campaign.

In isolation, some of them would be certain WTF moments - but they're not in isolation. Each one is a chapter in the dialogue between Mac and PC, each one has much implied by what you know about the characters.

Microsoft's campaign is just starting - and they're building the foundation for future ads.

Maybe. But I bet that most people "got it" the first time they saw the Apple ads, and it seems that most people don't after seeing the MS ad. If that is MS's strategy, they aren't doing a very good job with it. It's almost a microcosm of the whole Apple campaign: Macs are easy to "get it" right away, and Windows takes more time & energy - even right down to the ads. I agree with the MSNBC analysis that says these ads risk highlighting the very things that Apple is poking fun at them for.

[AidenShaw]

Given the terrible reviews....

Like these:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10034455-71.html?tag=rtcol;pop

Some people love it. Some people hate it.

Which is why Crispin Porter and Bogusky, the agency responsible for the otherworldly new Microsoft TV spot featuring the clowning Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld, is already happy.

The first aim of any Crispin campaign is to get people talking about the ad. So it seems to be a success.



http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10033667-17.html?tag=mncol

Reality Check: The Seinfeld ad was superb



I'm sure that CP+B were expecting a cool (but noisy) reception for the quirky starter ad.

[Hands Sandon]

Like these:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10034455-71.html?tag=rtcol;pop




http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10033667-17.html?tag=mncol





I'm sure that CP+B were expecting a cool (but noisy) reception for the quirky starter ad.

I love your special photo you of Jerry Seinfeld,did anyone ever tell you his dresses a lot like Steve Jobs!!!!

[DMann]

Maybe. But I bet that most people "got it" the first time they saw the Apple ads, and it seems that most people don't after seeing the MS ad. If that is MS's strategy, they aren't doing a very good job with it. It's almost a microcosm of the whole Apple campaign: Macs are easy to "get it" right away, and Windows takes more time & energy - even right down to the ads. I agree with the MSNBC analysis that says these ads risk highlighting the very things that Apple is poking fun at them for.

MS is taking the right approach here. Clarity, coherence, functionality, and synchrony have never been attributes of their products or offerings. Many will likely be happily distracted by episodes such as these, in that they draw focus away from Windows, distracting viewers from one convoluted drama called Vista, into a parallel convoluted drama called 'Let's reinvent Seinfeld.' If distracting us from the shortfalls of Windows, and MS in general, in a complicated and redundant manner is the goal here, then this commercial ought to be deemed successful. This half-baked effort is certainly praise worthy, with consideration to it's sponsor.

[kerpow]

Its refreshing for a company like Microsoft to make an ad like this, better than the rubbish Apple puts out constantly trashing their competition.

[egor]

Its refreshing for a company like Microsoft to make an ad like this, better than the rubbish Apple puts out constantly trashing their competition.

Agreed. I think it actually makes Apple look bad. Whilst they've got an overly aggressive campaign Microsoft is being far more sedate. My hope is Apple moves onto a new campaign, Mac vs PC was entertaining for a while - the audacity was refreshing, but I think it's time to move on.

[Hands Sandon]

Agreed. I think it actually makes Apple look bad. Whilst they've got an overly aggressive campaign Microsoft is being far more sedate. My hope is Apple moves onto a new campaign, Mac vs PC was entertaining for a while - the audacity was refreshing, but I think it's time to move on.

Why is it that the posters who try to defend this commercial as "Superb!" use the word "Rubbish!" all the time to describe the hugely successful Apple ads.Is it because they lack a broad vocabulary? Now Apple has planted it's teeth sharply into Microsoft with their advertising,much as you would like them to release,they wont,just wait for the next attacks-they'll be much more aggressive!Maybe by then Bill will be doing a lap dance!

[egor]

Why is it that the posters who try to defend this commercial as "Superb!" use the word "Rubbish!" all the time to describe the hugely successful Apple ads.Is it because they lack a broad vocabulary?

Why are you asking me this?

[Eric S.]

Maybe. But I bet that most people "got it" the first time they saw the Apple ads, and it seems that most people don't after seeing the MS ad. If that is MS's strategy, they aren't doing a very good job with it. It's almost a microcosm of the whole Apple campaign: Macs are easy to "get it" right away, and Windows takes more time & energy - even right down to the ads. I agree with the MSNBC analysis that says these ads risk highlighting the very things that Apple is poking fun at them for.

What's not to get? In the future, you'll be able to eat computers like cake. Seems simple enough. :rolleyes:

[iNotion]

After watching the ad again and a~gain...
Does the shoe circus has anything to do with Mac or Maybe Microsoft?:confused:

[Chandler Adaway]

After watching the ad again and a~gain...
Does the shoe circus has anything to do with Mac or Maybe Microsoft?:confused:

When I first watched it, I thought it was an Apple store with all of the glass and what not.

[Hands Sandon]

Maybe it's subliminal advertising-Shoe Circus=Short Circuit

[DoFoT9]

Maybe it's subliminal advertising-Shoe Circus=Short Circuit

which is a common occurence with winblows OS's....(think blue)

[DMann]

When I first watched it, I thought it was an Apple store with all of the glass and what not.

Not to mention, the customer entering the store at frame 1:14 is carrying what appears to be an iMac box. Who knows, there might also be referential meaning behind the reiteration of '10':

"He's a X"

"X"

"Better"

"That's a X"

"Guess what Bill, you're a(n OS) X"

In reference to 'delicious,' MS seems to be taking a cue from a comment made of OS X after the turn of the century: "OS X, it looks so good, you'll want to lick it." (originally: "... we made the buttons on the screen look so good, you'll want to lick them..")

[AidenShaw]

which is a common occurence with winblows OS's....(think blue)

If you really believe that blue screens are "common" with Vista, you should try running it for a long, long time.

I bet that you'll never see one....

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/funny-pictures-the-blue-screen-of-death-claims-another-victim.jpg

[DoFoT9]

Yeah! OS wrapped up in BS!!

ehehehehe :cool:

If you really believe that blue screens are "common" with Vista, you should try running it for a long, long time.

I bet that you'll never see one....

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/funny-pictures-the-blue-screen-of-death-claims-another-victim.jpg

oh ive been there and done that!!

i got a BS when installing it!!

i get a bluescreen logging into my vpn. they are quite common.

ive even seen 3 computers bluescreen in sync..!!

[DMann]

ehehehehe :cool:



oh ive been there and done that!!

i got a BS when installing it!!

i get a bluescreen logging into my vpn. they are quite common.

ive even seen 3 computers bluescreen in sync..!!

Kudos to MS - they've finally achieved synchrony of something tangible within the realm of their OS.

[DoFoT9]

Kudos to MS - they've finally achieved synchrony of something tangible within the realm of their OS.

it wasnt on purpose so it doesnt count it was theirbad :p

[Hands Sandon]

If you really believe that blue screens are "common" with Vista, you should try running it for a long, long time.

I bet that you'll never see one....

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/funny-pictures-the-blue-screen-of-death-claims-another-victim.jpg

Why,of all people,would you post this picture-arn't you supposed to like MS(BS)

[czachorski]

If you really believe that blue screens are "common" with Vista, you should try running it for a long, long time.

I bet that you'll never see one....

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/funny-pictures-the-blue-screen-of-death-claims-another-victim.jpg

I wonder if they were running Vista on that computer that blue screened at the Olympic opening ceremonies that was projecting one of the images onto the canopy.

:p

[AidenShaw]

i got a BS when installing it!!

Check the memory and other hardware on your homebuilt E6400, a blue-screen during installation is most likely a hardware fault or incompatibility.

While checking the hardware, don't forget to check the keyboard. Yours seems to have a broken caps key and omits much needed punctuation.


i get a bluescreen logging into my vpn. they are quite common.

I wouldn't blame Vista because you've installed crap VPN drivers.


ive even seen 3 computers bluescreen in sync..!!

I call BS on this one.


I wonder if they were running Vista on that computer that blue screened at the Olympic opening ceremonies that was projecting one of the images onto the canopy.

The laptop under the cat is not showing an NT BSOD, of course.

As far as the Olympics BSOD - they were probably running on cheap Chinese hardware without ECC memory or other basic reliability features. ;)

[DMann]

I wonder if they were running Vista on that computer that blue screened at the Olympic opening ceremonies that was projecting one of the images onto the canopy.

:p

Without a doubt.

[Chandler Adaway]

Not to mention, the customer entering the store at frame 1:14 is carrying what appears to be an iMac box. Who knows, there might also be referential meaning behind the reiteration of '10':

"He's a X"

"X"

"Better"

"That's a X"

"Guess what Bill, you're a(n OS) X"

In reference to 'delicious,' MS seems to be taking a cue from a comment made of OS X after the turn of the century: "OS X, it looks so good, you'll want to lick it." (originally: "... we made the buttons on the screen look so good, you'll want to lick them..")

I wish Microsoft would have just went ahead and said what they really wanted to say instead of us having to try and decode the commercial.

It does look like an iMac box, hm.

[AidenShaw]

It does look like an iMac box, hm.

A bag that perhaps could hold an Imac? Boy, you people can be ludicrous.

However, it's quite possible. Since the "customer" is going *into* the mall with the bag, perhaps he's returning the Imac because he discovered that it had a crappy, cheap 6-bit display....

Happy customers don't go *into* the mall with packages.

[Chandler Adaway]

A bag that perhaps could hold an Imac? Boy, you people can be ludicrous.

However, it's quite possible. Since the "customer" is going *into* the mall with the bag, perhaps he's returning the Imac because he discovered that it had a crappy, cheap 6-bit display....

Happy customers don't go *into* the mall with packages.
I don't know about you, but I carry a MBP box everytime I go into the mall just to make people jealous!
:rolleyes:

[qoqo]

What's not to get? In the future, you'll be able to eat computers like cake. Seems simple enough. :rolleyes:

Gates surely has climbed to comparable rarified heights of aristocracy as Marie Antoinette. Debates over attribution aside, cake seems apropos. Qu'ils mangent de la brioche! Let them eat cak...uh...computers! :cool:

[someone28624]

Well I bet Steve Jobs is scared now. Really scared.

I don't know about you guys, but I just chucked my Macbook and went out and bought an HP laptop with Windows Vista Home Premium Ultra Supreme Business Edition.

[yoyo5280]

Today in business studies our teacher was telling about how apple has caused such a big boom in their product name causing a recession in sony and microsoft products.

But he also commented on how " the apple switch ads are really funny. And microsoft got Jerry Seinfeld and aired their ad and it tanked!" Lol

[AidenShaw]

Today in business studies our teacher was telling about how apple has caused such a big boom in their product name causing a recession in sony and microsoft products.

But he also commented on how " the apple switch ads are really funny. And microsoft got Jerry Seinfeld and aired their ad and it tanked!" Lol


By the time you get to high school you'll probably realize how misguided your teacher is...


Microsoft's "recession":

Redmond, Wash. – July 17, 2008 – Microsoft Corp. today announced revenue of $15.84 billion for the fiscal fourth quarter ended June 30, 2008, an 18% increase over the same period of the prior year. Operating income and diluted earnings per share for the quarter were $5.68 billion and $0.46, representing growth of 42% and 48%, respectively, over the same period of the prior year.

For the fiscal year ended June 30, 2008, Microsoft announced revenue of $60.42 billion, an 18% increase over the prior year. Operating income and diluted earnings per share for the year were $22.49 billion and $1.87, representing yearly growth of 21% and 32%, respectively.

The growth rates for operating income and diluted earnings per share were impacted by a $1.1 billion charge in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2007 related to the expansion of the company’s Xbox 360 warranty coverage.

“Delivering $60 billion in annual revenue is an outstanding accomplishment and a testament to the powerful combination of great technology solutions and strong execution by our partners and global sales and marketing teams,” said Kevin Turner, chief operating officer at Microsoft. “The outlook for fiscal year 2009 is positive given the breadth of our impressive technology portfolio and the expanding collection of online services we are bringing to market.”

This fiscal year marked the launch of Microsoft’s flagship server products: Windows Server 2008, SQL Server 2008 and Visual Studio 2008. Revenue growth was primarily driven by continued customer demand for all products, including Windows Vista, which has sold over 180 million licenses since launch, the 2007 Microsoft Office system, server software, and Xbox 360 consoles and games.

“We had a strong finish in the fourth quarter, which capped off an impressive year for the company. We grew revenue 18% for the year with earnings per share significantly outpacing that,” said Chris Liddell, chief financial officer at Microsoft. “Looking forward, despite difficult economic conditions, we will build upon the momentum exiting fiscal year 2008 and expect to deliver another year of double-digit revenue and earnings growth in fiscal year 2009.”

http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY08/earn_rel_q4_08.mspx

[Sherman Homan]

Today in business studies our teacher was telling about how apple has caused such a big boom in their product name causing a recession in sony and microsoft products.

But he also commented on how " the apple switch ads are really funny. And microsoft got Jerry Seinfeld and aired their ad and it tanked!" Lol

Your business teacher thinks that Apple caused the current problems with Sony and Microsoft?! What verticals do Apple and Sony compete in? For that matter, most of Microsoft's income comes from verticals that Apple doesn't compete in. And to blame Apple for Vista's failure is a head scratcher!

[sharp65]

Well I bet Steve Jobs is scared now. Really scared.

I don't know about you guys, but I just chucked my Macbook and went out and bought an HP laptop with Windows Vista Home Premium Ultra Supreme Business Edition.

Wow, that's really funny. I see what you did there. :rolleyes:

[Hands Sandon]

By the time you get to high school you'll probably realize how misguided your teacher is...


Microsoft's "recession":

I'm glad you can,on some subjects,provide some good(though readily available)information. What isn't emphasized in your MS report is how MS is losing market share to Apple and as that happens Apple picks up far more revenue than MS ever could through it's OS alone.Thats why Apples earnings are almost as high as MS already! And remember that Microsofts' fourth quarter earnings for 2008 fell below Wall Street expectations. Market-share will cause a reccession within Microsoft and buying Yahoo isn't going to change much at all,but I guess they have to do something with all that money!(lucky Seinfeld too!)

[Hands Sandon]

And just to make something else clear to you. Apple does compete against MS in all of it's so called "verticals" ie business software.The only area where Apple doesn't currently compete is with the Xbox and even that is starting to change.

[DoFoT9]

And just to make something else clear to you. Apple does compete against MS in all of it's so called "verticals" ie business software.The only area where Apple doesn't currently compete is with the Xbox and even that is starting to change.

hey hey hey....

them ipod games are looking pretty competitive atm. :rolleyes:

[czachorski]

As far as the Olympics BSOD - they were probably running on cheap Chinese hardware without ECC memory or other basic reliability features. ;)

Ahhh, cheap chinese hardware - you mean just like most PCs in use today?

[BongoBanger]

Ahhh, cheap chinese hardware - you mean just like most PCs in use today?

And Macs.

[Hands Sandon]

Ahhh, cheap chinese hardware - you mean just like most PCs in use today?

yeah,you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig!

[czachorski]

And Macs.

The Olympic Opening Ceremonies did not use Macs - it appears they used Windows PCs, as one of them blue screened while projecting onto the stadium canopy.

That's also an unnecessary qualifier, as Macs are PCs, but I get your point. It seems like Apple gets a lot more out the same cheap chinese hardware with OS X than MS does with Windows.

[AidenShaw]

The Olympic Opening Ceremonies did not use Macs - it appears they used Windows PCs, as one of them blue screened while projecting onto the stadium canopy.

That's also an unnecessary qualifier, as Macs are PCs, but I get your point. It seems like Apple gets a lot more out the same cheap chinese hardware with OS X than MS does with Windows.

Apple just uses more lipstick - underneath they're all made from the same parts ;)

[Hands Sandon]

The Olympic Opening Ceremonies did not use Macs - it appears they used Windows PCs, as one of them blue screened while projecting onto the stadium canopy.

That's also an unnecessary qualifier, as Macs are PCs, but I get your point. It seems like Apple gets a lot more out the same cheap chinese hardware with OS X than MS does with Windows.

Apple at least selectively bring in their components. Unlike, a typical PC which has the reliability factor of a pittbull with rabies!

[Hands Sandon]

Does anyone here actually know the facts about how much hardware Apple makes itself?I can't help thinking we're comparing "Apples to Pigs" on this one!

[DoFoT9]

Does anyone here actually know the facts about how much hardware Apple makes itself?I can't help thinking we're comparing "Apples to Pigs" on this one!

apple doesnt make any of its hardware...

[Hands Sandon]

apple doesnt make any of its hardware...

If that's true,why does it's new ad for get a mac say it does?You can currently see the ad across the whole of the front page on www.nytimes.com

[Hands Sandon]

I think someone's going to be left holding the lipstick on this one and I don't think it's going to be Apple!

[DoFoT9]

If that's true,why does it's new ad for get a mac say it does?You can currently see the ad across the whole of the front page on www.nytimes.com

oh yes because apple makes the CPUs/GPUs/HDDs/RAM/mobos etc?? they only really make the cases for a lot of their stuff, the rest is all bought from external sources.

[AidenShaw]

If that's true,why does it's new ad for get a mac say it does?

Because Apple often lies in its ads? (think "first 64-bit desktop" for a prime example)

[Hands Sandon]

Because Apple often lies in its ads? (think "first 64-bit desktop" for a prime example)

That really is audacious,what are they thinking. I know they're buying up some companies but none the less to have a banner headline does seem very misleading.Maybe it's just the wires etc...!!

[DMann]

That really is audacious,what are they thinking. I know they're buying up some companies but none the less to have a banner headline does seem very misleading.Maybe it's just the wires etc...!!

Yes, Apple does design their casings, specifies how hardware will function within the design, and has their machines built to their specifications. Apple essentially does produce their products, in a similar way to the way auto manufacturers use parts and farm production out to factories outside their own. What makes the difference here is that Apple takes full responsibility if anything were to go wrong with the interaction of the hardware, software, drivers, or anything which could prevent the user from having things work seamlessly. No other PC company can, or will, offer that.

[Hands Sandon]

Well, it's definately an ad designed to mislead some people. At least they admit what they're refering to as the screen,case etc

[Hands Sandon]

Yes, Apple does design their casings, specifies how hardware will function within the design, and has their machines built to their specifications. Apple essentially does produce their products, in a similar way to the way auto manufacturers use parts and farm production out to factories outside their own. What makes the difference here is that Apple takes full responsibility if anything were to go wrong with the interaction of the hardware, software, drivers, or anything which could prevent the user from having things work seamlessly. No other PC company can, or will, offer that.

You obviously understand how Apple works with their hardware suppliers.What I don't understand is what standard does Apple expect,as far as seamless integration,that PC's with an MS OS don't have or can't have and likewise that same relationship to their screens,casings etc. And do you mean that warranties on Apples products are more substantial?I would love to know how that works.

[Hands Sandon]

According to Apples ad-QUOTE- "Because Apple makes both the software and the hardware,everything works together,just as it should."

[AidenShaw]

According to Apples ad-QUOTE- "Because Apple makes both the software and the hardware,everything works together,just as it should."

So, Apple has a silicon fab where they make their own Core 2 Duo microprocessors? Their own disk factories? LCD plants? Memory fabs? NICs? Connectors?

Lies, all lies.

If Apple had used the word "designs" instead "makes", and the word "systems" instead of "hardware" -- it would be true.

"makes hardware" is a lie unless you add so many qualifications to "make" and "hardware" that it becomes "designs systems".

And this is without even addressing the issue that there aren't any Apple factories - almost all of the assembly is done by contract manufacturers in Asia.

[Hands Sandon]

So, Apple has a silicon fab where they make their own Core 2 Duo microprocessors? Their own disk factories? LCD plants? Memory fabs? NICs? Connectors?

Lies, all lies.

If Apple had used the word "designs" instead "makes", and the word "systems" instead of "hardware" -- it would be true.

"makes hardware" is a lie unless you add so many qualifications to "make" and "hardware" that it becomes "designs systems".

I didn't expect to agree with you but the word "design" sprung to my mind as possible too,"makes both" is ludicrous and opens up Apple to ridicule and warranted attacks.That kind of deceptive bragging paints a pig with lipstick!

[DMann]

You obviously understand how Apple works with their hardware suppliers.What I don't understand is what standard does Apple expect,as far as seamless integration,that PC's with an MS OS don't have or can't have and likewise that same relationship to their screens,casings etc. And do you mean that warranties on Apples products are more substantial?I would love to know how that works.

Microsoft is primarily a software company. Although they have recently branched out into other competitive markets, i.e. xBox, (gaming) Zune, (mp3 player) and kiosk, (Surface) Microsoft does not offer an all-in-one solution (OS, PC, Monitor) computer at this time. Instead, MS sells/licenses their Windows OS to several PC manufacturers, and dealers, such as Dell, who are obliged, by license agreement, to pre-install a Windows Operating System on every PC sold. With this business model, the consumer can choose to build his/her own PC, mix and match parts, chipsets, motherboards, with permutations of varied brands, specs, build quality, etc. Microsoft has done extremely well with this business model, which brings in approximately 80% of their revenue, OEM taxes included. However, this is where MS draws the line on customer service - the hardware warranty is carried separately, by the PC manufacturer. If you do have a problem, as many do, the finger pointing will continue endlessly while you spend time and money on tech calls, back and forth, from MS to which ever manufacturer(s) are involved.

With Apple's business model, although choice is somewhat limited, which is unfortunate for those who wish to build their own mini-towers, the design and integration of the OS and hardware make it possible to assure a quality user experience, while greatly minimizing technical issues and incompatibilities. Once again, if GE can claim to make, instead of design microwave ovens, with their units assembled overseas with parts not even made by them, then so can Apple state that they make the software and hardware. They certainly strive to make them work together.

[Hands Sandon]

Microsoft is primarily a software company. Although they have recently branched out into other competitive markets, i.e. xBox, (gaming) Zune, (mp3 player) and kiosk, (Surface) Microsoft does not offer an all-in-one solution (OS, PC, Monitor) computer at this time. Instead, MS sells/licenses their Windows OS to several PC manufacturers, and dealers, such as Dell, who are obliged, by license agreement, to pre-install a Windows Operating System on every PC sold. With this business model, the consumer can choose to build his/her own PC, mix and match parts, chipsets, motherboards, with permutations of varied brands, specs, build quality, etc. Microsoft has done extremely well with this business model, which brings in approximately 80% of their revenue, OEM taxes included. However, this is where MS draws the line on customer service - the hardware warranty is carried separately, by the PC manufacturer. If you do have a problem, as many do, the finger pointing will continue endlessly while you spend time and money on tech calls, back and forth, from MS to which ever manufacturer(s) are involved.

With Apple's business model, although choice is somewhat limited, which is unfortunate for those who wish to build their own mini-towers, the design and integration of the OS and hardware make it possible to assure a quality user experience, while greatly minimizing technical issues and incompatibilities. Once again, if GE can claim to make, instead of design microwave ovens, with their units assembled overseas with parts not even made by them, then so can Apple state that they make the software and hardware. They certainly strive to make them work together.
No doubt many people looking to buy a new PC would be encouraged by this ad.Apples' superior integration of OS and hardware must make some significant differences."Makes both" though makes Apple appear desperate for an advantage, given that it's blatantly false and may backfire as people feel duped.

[DMann]

No doubt many people looking to buy a new PC would be encouraged by this ad.Apples' superior integration of OS and hardware must make some significant differences."Makes both" though makes Apple appear desperate for an advantage, given that it's blatantly false and may backfire as people feel duped.

Quite true, especially if Apple were still a "Mom & Pop" brick & mortar store of the mid 20th century. Times have changed, however, and any company today, which claims that they 'make' anything, is blatantly deceptive. Although stating, "Apple makes the software and manufactures the hardware" would be more precise, the statement becomes more coherent by having the term 'make' apply to both. After all, you do receive an Apple branded keyboard, and an Apple branded mouse with the package, which technically is hardware. I do not believe that customers will feel duped knowing that Apple stands by the entire system, made 'in house' or not.

[Hands Sandon]

Quite true, especially if Apple were still a "Mom & Pop" brick & mortar store of the mid 20th century. Times have changed, however, and any company today, which claims that they 'make' anything, is blatantly deceptive. Although stating, "Apple makes the software and manufactures the hardware" would be more precise, the statement becomes more coherent by having the term 'make' apply to both. After all, you do receive an Apple branded keyboard, and an Apple branded mouse with the package, which technically is hardware. I do not believe that customers will feel duped knowing that Apple stands by the entire system, made 'in house' or not.

Of course they wont feel duped if Apple stand by the entire system but they definitely will feel duped if they were led to believe Apple made the entire system,as this ad implies,thereby not receiving the benefits that that may have brought.The fact that Americas' oldest conglomerate,GE has pursued similar marketing tactics with dishwashers shouldn't make Apple think it can take liberties with its customers.

"Negotiations arn't Proclamations"

[DMann]

Of course they wont feel duped if Apple stand by the entire system but they definitely will feel duped if they were led to believe Apple made the entire system,as this ad implies,thereby not receiving the benefits that that may have brought.The fact that Americas' oldest conglomerate,GE has pursued similar marketing tactics with dishwashers shouldn't make Apple think it can take liberties with its customers.

"Negotiations arn't Proclamations"

We'll it all depends on how one wishes to interpret the term 'make.' I enjoy Aunt Annie's "Home Made Cookies." Although, they're not made by her, nor are they made in her home, they are authentic tasting nonetheless, and I have no desire to initiate litigation against the company for false advertising. Since there exists no company today which actually makes all of their products' components from scratch, quibbling about whether or not something is 'made' by a company seems senseless. Apple's products are 'made' with more integrity than most other products available today - it's this integrity which they are referring to.

[AidenShaw]

... MS sells/licenses their Windows OS to several PC manufacturers, and dealers, such as Dell, who are obliged, by license agreement, to pre-install a Windows Operating System on every PC sold ...

Dell PCs Featuring Ubuntu (http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs)

http://i.dell.com/images/us/segments/dhs/q3wk02_ubuntu_930x200.jpg


HP Expands Linux Portfolio with Industry-first Linux Notebook (http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2004/040803a.html)

[Hands Sandon]

We'll it all depends on how one wishes to interpret the term 'make.' I enjoy Aunt Annie's "Home Made Cookies." Although, they're not made by her, nor are they made in her home, they are authentic tasting nonetheless, and I have no desire to initiate litigation against the company for false advertising. Since there exists no company today which actually makes all of their products' components from scratch, quibbling about whether or not something is 'made' by a company seems senseless. Apple's products are 'made' with more integrity than most other products available today - it's this integrity which they are referring to.

If Apple is the driving force in the design of these components(ie sets strict guidelines for their products to be made specifically for their own machines)and that that product thereby is fundamentally designed to work specifically with their machines I would accept "makes" in a commercial but it's not the case. Apple simply gets things working better at their end of the operation cherrypicking components just like everyone else. I do see your point that they integrate the whole package more than other companies even can,but that's really all when it comes to processors etc.

[Hands Sandon]

I'm don't know much about this stuff but Googling I discovered that Apple bought PA Semi for $250 million,so maybe that's where their going with this claim.

[AidenShaw]

I'm don't know much about this stuff but Googling I discovered that Apple bought PA Semi for $250 million,so maybe that's where their going with this claim.

The PA Semi acquisition is most likely to develop custom systems-on-a-chip for Iphone/Ipod/MID devices - not Macs.

Even if it were the case, none of those components are in the current Macs - so the ads would still be technically false for current models.

[Hands Sandon]

QUOTE- "Reports of my hardware are greatly exagerrated!"

[IBradMac]

"Microsoft ad"- FAIL! :p

[Eric S.]

"Microsoft ad"- FAIL! :p

I think this sums up pretty well why that's not true (and remember that the ad isn't being pitched to Mac fanboys):

http://lowendmac.com/ed/fox/08ff/jerry-seinfeld-microsoft.html

[jojo13]

hey guys could anyone tell me why this thread has so many replies???

I mean who cares about microsoft ad:D

[AidenShaw]

QUOTE- "Reports of my hardware are greatly exagerrated!"

Good one - you've redeemed yourself for the string of silly posts!

[Hands Sandon]

Good one - you've redeemed yourself for the string of silly posts!

Ha,but there's still people who think Microsoft will stop the rot with their ads and they won't,they'll make themselves A World Of Trouble!!

[AidenShaw]

Ha,but there's still people who think Microsoft will stop the rot with their ads and they won't,they'll make themselves A World Of Trouble!!

And there you go and blow it by falling back into crazy talk.

You're obviously better and smarter than this nonsense - don't listen to the "other voices", stay with the outside personality.

[Hands Sandon]

And there you go and blow it by falling back into crazy talk.

You're obviously better and smarter than this nonsense - don't listen to the "other voices", stay with the outside personality.

I bought a mac mini about 4months ago,I'm 37 years old,I had a of (about a12 yr old gateway)all I wanted was a program that would make photo organising straight forward-the mac does that-they wanted me to buy a 2 gb ram at the Apple store- I dont need it -it's been perfect-it looks good and the fan noise at it's most frantic is not annoying at all-I barely hear it-it really is simple and makes you feel good just using it. It costs $600- ie not much I got the wireless keyboard(beautiful)and mouse(no problems at all)there's a mac I love-the mini towers -well if I needed more,a mac pro-but for me the little outside of surfing is not needed. I don't do games and I bet the thing the lasts/For everyone else there's a choice pc or mac for me there's just a right choice a Mac!
"Transition withought responsibility is still transition"

[Hands Sandon]

And there you go and blow it by falling back into crazy talk.

You're obviously better and smarter than this nonsense - don't listen to the "other voices", stay with the outside personality.

Bill: It's gotta be about something

Jerry: Nothing, it's about NOTHING.
What did you do today?

Bill: I went to the shoe store....

Jerry: There's a commercial, right there.

Bill: Then, why would we be watching it.

Jerry: Because it's on TV.

Bill: Not YET, it isn't ........ (holy vista, they actually aired it....)

Now, who can we find to play Susan?

Love it!!!! Holy Vista...

[JW8725]

QUOTE- "Reports of my hardware are greatly exagerrated!"

LOL, my chuckle of the day! I love you.:p

[PowerFullMac]

Sorry, childish I know, but I couldn't help myself here...

Cue PC & Mac standing at a tall meeting table with a bowl of Apples on

Mac
Hello I'm a mac.
PC (standing in Gates Conquistador shoes)
and I'm a PC.
Mac
Say, PC, I just saw your new commercial, nice shoes.
PC (Proud)
Yes, we've finally managed to produce something that is virus-free and just works.
Mac
Shoes?
PC
These aren't just shoes, these are Microsoft Conquistador 2008 Ultimate shoes.
Mac
Oh?
PC
With these shoes you can go anywhere, think "where do you want to go to today?" and these shoes you can get there.
NO need for an internet connection, you don't even need a computer.
Mac
But what about Vista?
PC
Well we hoped users would get the message, you see Atari showed us that the desert is the best place for redundant software and well, we hoped people might get the hint with the Mojave project.
PC
But with these babies...

(PC starts stomping during which the laces start to fall out)
...you can can go anywhere,do anything.
(PC Stands still realising he has no laces left)

PC
Of course, there might still be some compatibility issues, people with different feet configurations and all... ...we'll have them sorted in the first service pack.

PC, looking deflated, picks up an Apple fom the bowl, takes a bite and starts to walk off set...

PC
Say, these are delicious.

Cut to Apple logo.

Sadie.

LMAO!!!

Apple should so make that!!! :D

[rt_brained]

Sorry, childish I know, but I couldn't help myself here...

Cue PC & Mac standing at a tall meeting table with a bowl of Apples on

Mac
Hello I'm a mac.
PC (standing in Gates Conquistador shoes)
and I'm a PC.
Mac
Say, PC, I just saw your new commercial, nice shoes.
PC (Proud)
Yes, we've finally managed to produce something that is virus-free and just works.
Mac
Shoes?
PC
These aren't just shoes, these are Microsoft Conquistador 2008 Ultimate shoes.
Mac
Oh?
PC
With these shoes you can go anywhere, think "where do you want to go to today?" and these shoes you can get there.
NO need for an internet connection, you don't even need a computer.
Mac
But what about Vista?
PC
Well we hoped users would get the message, you see Atari showed us that the desert is the best place for redundant software and well, we hoped people might get the hint with the Mojave project.
PC
But with these babies...

(PC starts stomping during which the laces start to fall out)
...you can can go anywhere,do anything.
(PC Stands still realising he has no laces left)

PC
Of course, there might still be some compatibility issues, people with different feet configurations and all... ...we'll have them sorted in the first service pack.

PC, looking deflated, picks up an Apple fom the bowl, takes a bite and starts to walk off set...

PC
Say, these are delicious.

Cut to Apple logo.

Sadie.


That's a 45-second spot. Try cutting :15 of dialog first.

Then take that :30 and throw it away.

[Lutris]

It's a shaggy dog story — the whole thing is a lead-up to Bill Gates saying, 'Let them eat cake!'

[Hands Sandon]

It looks like Microsoft just went ahead and built the $300 million bridge to nowhere after all!

[sra. Aguirre]

Gosh what a lame ad, and NOT because it is Microsoft, but because it is SOOOO BOORING! The only thing I root for is the churros....what can I say..I love Mexico!

[THEAnonymous]

CNBC just reported that MSFT will be canceling all Seinfeld-related ads effective immediately.

[raythemoneyman]

It just proves Microsoft does not get it. I think they were trying to earn the cool factor back.....it won't work. When it comes to Apple business we are all suffering this week though. Might be a good time to buy in if you haven't already. Check out this link...

http://www.ino.com/info/246/CD3116/&dp=0&l=0&campaignid=3

[ayzee]

the new microsofy ad is pretty impressive and is obvious in what it's trying to say. In fact they make the apple ads look quote childish, immature and even a little offensive.

why they paid seinfield all those millions for a couple of ads that don't make sense instead of just doing these I'll never know

[Hands Sandon]

It's a shaggy dog story — the whole thing is a lead-up to Bill Gates saying, 'Let them eat cake!'

At the same prices as an Apple!

[Trajectory]

the new microsofy ad is pretty impressive and is obvious in what it's trying to say.

Care to explain what they are trying to say? The make no sense whatsoever to me. What do corndogs have to do with Windows being delicious??

In fact they make the apple ads look quote childish, immature and even a little offensive.

Hardly! :rolleyes:

[Galley]

I just figured out where they got the "chewy" idea from. It's from a Get Fuzzy comic strip. :)

[henrymonroe]

Care to explain what they are trying to say? The make no sense whatsoever to me. What do corndogs have to do with Windows being delicious??



Hardly! :rolleyes:

The world seems to disagree with you. :rolleyes:

[Hands Sandon]

Microsoft doesn't make computers.

Besides that, what do you mean?

a) that the MS-players, being the underdog, says that PCs with windows installed is the underdog?

b) That Macs have crappy audio quality?

c) that Macs have extremely bugridden software?

d) that when looking at the two show that Apple's stuff isn't catering to the lowest common denominator?

e) that Macs are way more crippled than PCs, having less working features?

f) that macs tend to go backwards in featuresets, even with such basic features as Disk Mode?

g) that, assuming we include phones, Apple's computers are seriously handicapped and no more than a fashion statement?

h) that Apple computer's have a lousy build quality?

i) that "stuff" from Apple computers is so tied in and proprietary that one has to be willing to hang your independence on the coat rack, and be content with not being able to do what you want, but rather only do what Steve Jobs and Co want you to?

Yes, except for A, you really do have a point.
Interesting points!I like the iPhone and Macs

[batchtaster]

????? You are batchtasting crazy pills, and evidently you've hired "The Sphinx" from Mystery Men to write your retorts:

>>You must lash out with every limb, like the octopus who plays the drums.

>>He who questions training only trains himself at asking questions.



Batchtaster, did you even read any other posts in this thread??

Good Lord, dude. I'll recap for your dumb a*s:

1. I am the biggest damn Apple user you will ever meet, tempered with enough Windows use over many years to know MS sucks.

2. The post you quoted said "I am happy that MS is threatened enough by Apple to spend tons of money to defend themselves."

3. "It is on" indicates MS being threatened enough to try to battle Apple.

4. MS feeling threatened means they know they're losing.

5. I am looking forward to seeing their best shot, and when Apple continues to increase its market share, MS will possibly become even more desperate.

Nobody said it's a fabulous ad, just that the marketing tack they're taking is an obvious one. Good on you for realizing it's a "pre-ad", broseph.

I just happened to catch the ad on TV, and I understand what they're doing.

So please carry your weak-a*s attempt at flexing back to you-tube or wherever you're kickin' it these days, if your bandwidth allows.

Wow. You're a ********** nob.

[macintoshtoffy]

Wow. You're a ********** nob.

Why the hell are you resurrecting something from almost a year ago?

[iAlexG]

Pointless ad?

[freesonwang]

Wow. You're a ********** nob.

Lol at spelling noob wrong.

[Sehnsucht]

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/TheDavidFrom1988/bump-sign-thumb5991375.jpg

Wow. You're a ********** nob.

[macintoshtoffy]

Lol at spelling noob wrong.

Its meant to be knob I think; it is a colloquial for 'penis', 'cock', 'john thomas', 'trouser snake'...I'm sure you got the message.