Sept 9th: iTunes 8, iPhone Firmware 2.1... with Hidden Features?

[Hey Jude]

I am grateful that I seem to have avoided the most severe consequences of firmware upgrades, except for the somewhat frequent crashes to the home screen. If that issue is fixed, along the elimination of the ever so slight lag between functions, I will be a very happy camper indeed!

Oh, another vote for MMS, but I just don't see it included.

Jude

FWIW, I have approximately 12 apps on my phone, about 340 songs, two movies and three TV shows but my backups are usually no longer than 10 minutes or so.

[mrgreen4242]

What's your point? I stated what is holding the Touch back from getting GPS and you just repeated what I said but added some BS timeframe for signal lock and size for a single country's map. If you can't see that the HW would be pointless without the SW then I have no idea what you are doing in a tech-based forum. Again, FOR THIS TO HAPPEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE LOCAL MAPS AVAILABLE. Of course, your lack of comprehension probably reads that as I'm saying it's not going to happen. Which isn't, in any way, what I said.

I have NO IDEA what you are trying to drive home here. What is it you are trying to say? You really need to re-read the things you write and try to be a little more clear. I'm not the only one who responded to you with more or less the same thing - so I'm assuming we all got the same impression from your post. You seem to agree with what I say, but also think it's wrong, or as you say "BS". You list some hurdles to GPS in the touch, but when I point at that those hurdles are fairly minor (GPS acquisition time and size of some local software) you throw them back in my face as still being hurdles, but not explaining why.

Anyways, I really have no idea what you are trying to say, so I'm sure whatever response I, or anyone else makes, you'll just reply in some sort of nonsensical post telling me I'm not saying anything and that's not what you were talking about at all.

AGPS *is* real GPS. Its real GPS ASSISTED with towers so that it can find the satellites faster.

Sorry, what I meant was "Real" GPS as in "Just Plain Old" GPS that doesn't rely on any PAID for service. I feel like people don't immediate see the distinction between GPS and aGPS, as they, in the end, do the same thing. So, I feel compelled to preface GPS with a prefix (like we do with Assisted GPS) and I just just chose to use the word Real, rather than, say, Unassisted, or Traditional, or Standard, or something like that.

[Mac Dummy]

I'd love to see Itunes 8 have a bittorrent client built in. That might help speed up downloads of content that are large or are downloading on slower connections. Also Smart Playlists for Video would be a welcome addition. Being able to search a specific song or video and see how many playlists it appears in might be nice too.

[Chic0]

I hope that iTunes 8 lets you stream you iTunes Library to things other than iPod Touch and iPhone (I don't have either b/c of the hard drive limitation). I hope you can stream to your MacBook or our Mac at work. It would be so awesome not to have to take HD space on your MacBook and still have your music.

ps I really hope they release new MacBooks and MBPs on Tues.

There is this : http://www.simplifymedia.com/

I've installed this on powerbook + iphone. works well over wifi. not tried it using 3G yet tho :-)

[TheManOfSilver]

iPods are still an important business for :apple:, so they're always going to be big news, but I'm set with my iPhone and don't really care ... so my personal wishlist for Tuesday is around 2.1:

Faster, more stable OS
Copy/paste
Voice dialing (c'mon Apple, my first Nokia brick had this!!)
Nike+ for iPhone
Push Gmail (dreaming, I know)
Easy switch modes (3G, Wifi, Airplane)
Video recording


I would also love to see the new Macbooks, but I know I'll have to wait an extra week (until after the Back to School promo) at least for that.

[Riemann Zeta]

Video Recording will likely at this point be left to the App Store since the optics in the camera are so poor...there was a job listing for a camera engineer for the iPhone a few months back, but that persons work won't likely be until the next model.

I wish this was the case, but it is not possible to access or control the camera with the Apple SDK--they don't allow direct hardware access and don't provide a camera API. If it were, we would have Video Recorder apps by now, as they already exist in the JB world.

I hope 2.1 does not have the background pushiness (I don't really feel like killing my battery for a feature I would never use) and instead has things like: (1) bug fixes for the SMS keyboard lag and random ringer volume bugs and (2) new build of safari with that uberfast flying-squirrel javascript interpreter and (3) greater OS stability.

For all those who are asking for a new macbook, apple is probably trying to get the new snow leopard into the new revision of macbook? which is the cause of the delay for new MB/MBP and etc. i am just guessing.. :P
Zuh? OS 10.6 is not scheduled to be available until Summer 2009. Apple has only seeded 10.6 Alpha 1 and the first beta probably won't even appear until Jan 2009. I doubt that 10.6 has anything to do with anything right now.

[AtHomeBoy_2000]

I'll throw this one at the wall here:
Could the "classic" line be discontinued in favor of a single "touch" line with both flash and HDD versions?

Just a thought.

[Trajectory]

Well, let's hope the 2.1 firmware fixes the many bugs in the iPhone OS first, then we can talk about adding more features, like cut-and-paste, video recording, etc.

I just hope Safari Mobile is getting a complete re-write because it is a horrible, unstable app right now. It's a real POS.

Email needs a boost, too. Multiple signatures, adding Attendees, choosing the colors you want for each calendar, etc.

A Contacts app that actually works and doesn't pause for 10 seconds before you can select a contact and phone number to dial.

SMS that doesn't take 5X longer to type a simple message and send it.

[shazammy]

You mean they're going to release a patch that makes the thing actually work the way it is supposed to work! That is just amazing. Truly amazing. A banner day, Apple.

[gregdrummeraz]

I'll throw this one at the wall here:
Could the "classic" line be discontinued in favor of a single "touch" line with both flash and HDD versions?

Just a thought.

Kind of what I was thinking.... Classics only are a classic for so long, then people just stop buying. I can almost be certain that half of last quarters iPod sales where touch and in second where nanos.

[App1€]

iPod Touch can't have GPS because it doesn't have the HARDWARE needed to send and receive the signal. The next iPod Touch might, but I hope not because then it just keeps eliminating the reasons I spent the extra money to get the iPhone.

C+P would be nice, but I really never had a huge reason for it. Yes it would have been handy a bunch of times, but I want MMS more.

I am REALLY REALLY hoping for something like simplify media, but made by apple. I can finally get rid of the iPhone play list I have.

[vandy1997]

That's correct. It's the part where it says "Backing up ... iPhone". It takes forever for me. Maybe some apps are causing problems and the backup takes forever. Do you have small-sized apps? Texas Hold 'Em, as an example, is about 120 mb, so that would take longer than 13 0.1 mb apps. Also, I use Windows Vista. Are you on a Mac? iTunes seems to be less than optimal on Windows systems. All I know is that I know two other people, including myself, with the same issues. So the problem may be with a particular app that is causing a loop and therefore creating a lengthy backup process or it may be that iTunes in Windows is slow. All I know is that I would like it to be rectified. I had the first generation iPhone, and it took me about 10 minutes to backup and sync, so this lengthy backup with the iPhone 3G is unacceptable!

I have 4 GB of media and 13 apps, and mine takes about 50 seconds to backup during the sync process. We are referring to the portion of the sync where it says "Backing up ...iPhone," right?

[CWallace]

I'll throw this one at the wall here: Could the "classic" line be discontinued in favor of a single "touch" line with both flash and HDD versions?

That would tend to make the most sense, as the larger HDD capacity would appeal to those who want to bring plenty of widescreen movies and TV shows with them. Such an iPod Touch would be thicker and heavier (to both accommodate the size and weight of the HDD as well as the larger battery needed), but it would likely keep a HDD-based model more relevant as flash capacities rise to 64GB/96GB/128GB.

[mdntcallr]

I'll hold my applause for something that is revolutionary.

I'm with you, seems like apple as lately has been innovative in only one respect, marketing.

They have fallen short in technology and many of their plans:
1- 3G fundamentally flawed. hope they can fix
2- no true Blu-Ray support, whether just in BD-Rom support, let alone full HD movie playback.
3- flawed closed DRM system for Ipod and such, they could work with record companies and more to allow a better more dynamic DRM system. this would help consumers alot.
4- too many products with intel GPU.
5- integrate itunes HD movie rental to macs/pc's with HDCP graphics cards and monitors. why should Apple TV be the only way to watch HD movies with macs?
6- Apple finally needs to sell what consumers want - THE DAMNED MYTHICAL MIDRANGE MAC Tower!!! too many consumers are underserved and being forced to buy a mac pro tower, we need a midrange product!

If Apple is to continue its success, they need to offer more to their customers and stop relying on the ipod/iphone halo.

OS 10.5 is great, but without blu-ray support or the hardware consumers want, apple is missing the boat and some chinks in their halo are occuring.

[Manic Mouse]

Apple need to do something about back-ups. I hear people complaining about 50 sec back-ups but mine takes about an hour. So to sync, especially if there are new apps to install, it can take my iPhone close to two hours to complete a single sync.

Sort it out Apple!

[CWallace]

(S)eems like apple as lately has been innovative in only one respect, marketing. They have fallen short in technology and many of their plans:
1- 3G fundamentally flawed. hope they can fix

It is fixed now with the 2.0.2 firmware. If users would just install the bleedin thing, the network performance would improve.

2- no true Blu-Ray support, whether just in BD-Rom support, let alone full HD movie playback.

Apple's goal is to get people to download content to their computers from iTunes. There is also the cost factor for the hardware that Apple needs for their machines other then the Mac Pro (slot-load, low-profile, laptop form factor) and the fact that it does impact battery life to a not-insignificant extent.

3- flawed closed DRM system for Ipod and such, they could work with record companies and more to allow a better more dynamic DRM system. this would help consumers alot.

Apple has worked tirelessly to get the RIAA to remove their demands for DRM in order to allow them to sell content through iTunes. However, the RIAA still pines for a world where people "pay per play" and not just once so they continue to fight Apple's initiatives. They are also afraid of the power Apple and iTunes wields in the industry. And even the artists themselves are starting to worry since many are seeing only one or two tracks selling from their online albums, costing them significant revenue compared to if they had to buy the entire thing (like a CD).

4- too many products with intel GPU.

Two out of five product lines. That is not even a plurality, much less a majority.

If Apple is to continue its success, they need to offer more to their customers and stop relying on the ipod/iphone halo.

That halo is a major part of why they are successful.

[illegallydead]

I agree with you. I have an iPod Touch with 2.0.2 and have had maybe 5 instances where apps have quit on me. I have had this touch from the beginning (almost a year old) and it is one of the best "toys" I have ever got. And to everyone saying that the iPhone and iPod Touch take two hours or so to sync... idk how slow your computer is. Mine take 5-8 minutes tops and I have friends who have iPhone 3Gs and original iPhones and the highest number i got from them was 20 minutes on a iPhone 3G being synced to Windows XP laptop with a gig of ram.

haha you and your friends probably got those times because you actually know how to use a computer/handle an iPhone/iTouch. All these people complaining are expecting the iPhone to be the second coming of christ himself... :rolleyes:

[seashellz]

we should be getting 10.5.5 and iTunes 8 tomorrow-so they can work out any kinks before the show and have it ready, up, and running come 9:00am Tues

[gregdrummeraz]

we should be getting 10.5.5 and iTunes 8 tomorrow-so they can work out any kinks before the show and have it ready, up, and running come 9:00am Tues

Um.... I'm thinking more along the lines of Tues. :p

[IT-Pro]

we should be getting 10.5.5 and iTunes 8 tomorrow-so they can work out any kinks before the show and have it ready, up, and running come 9:00am Tues
I can imagine they would release 10.5.5 tomorrow, just for Tuesday preparations. One guy on this forum said, that according to his source 10.5.5 will come Monday late afternoon, which is presumably Eastern Standard Time.

However, it seems to me that if iTunes 8 contains a lot of new features, and according to the leaks it does, they won't release the new version without telling the media about it, so they have to wait till the Tuesday event.

[PS590]

make every app, including the home screen, landscape able.

[dstrauss]

...Apple may not have as many security problems as MS - but MS still makes products that dont require a .x update within weeks of the initial program offering.


You're right, Vista .x was needed even BEFORE Vista was released! :D

[amacisbetter]

That is all I want. I could care less about features at this point. My dads original iPhone was so stable. I got my iPhone 3G expecting the same smoothness and stability. I haven't had the same experience... :(

[App1€]

we should be getting 10.5.5 and iTunes 8 tomorrow-so they can work out any kinks before the show and have it ready, up, and running come 9:00am Tues

Ha ha you're funny that would mean they actually learned something from the 2.0 debacle. That's not big business. :rolleyes:

[App1€]

That is all I want. I could care less about features at this point. My dads original iPhone was so stable. I got my iPhone 3G expecting the same smoothness and stability. I haven't had the same experience... :(

You most likely used 1.1.4 ah so nice everything ran excellent. The good old days

[rhett7660]

You most likely used 1.1.4 ah so nice everything ran excellent. The good old days

Isn't that the truth.. man I loved my phone back in the day! :)

[App1€]

Isn't that the truth.. man I loved my phone back in the day! :)

As much as I do like apps, I still preferred 1.1.4

[gikku]

Does Apple produce computers too? :confused: :D

No, they dropped Computers from the name last year in prep for dropping the product.


/sarcasm

[Silverfist]

In addition to the Beatles, I'd like to find out that the tiff with NBC has been settled, and we'll be able to get their shows through iTMS again.

/longshot

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[hierobryan]

Exciting new releases and announcements really should take place on Mondays. This would make the world happier about facing their work week instead of having a 'case of the Mondays'.

[gusapple]

In addition to the Beatles, I'd like to find out that the tiff with NBC has been settled, and we'll be able to get their shows through iTMS again.

/longshot

.
Yes! Finally a post I can completely agree on. I want the Office on my iPhone and would really want the Beatles too. But it has been a year since the whole NBC fiasco, so I hope it is resolved.

[blurredline]

This story just appeared on Digg(under my NetNewsWire):
"iTunes 8 Accidentally Leaked"
When the page loaded I immediately noticed that the download button was out of place. I didn’t think anything of it as this happens in Opera quite often. I hovered over it for a few seconds and noticed that the URL was something about iTunes 8.0. I When the d/l finished I started the install process and sure enough, the splash screen read Itunes 8

Don't know if it's coincidence but Digg went down about 5 minutes after that was posted so I can't see a link or anything, just that synopsis of the story.

[wizard]

iPod Touch can't have GPS because it doesn't have the HARDWARE needed to send and receive the signal. The next iPod Touch might, but I hope not because then it just keeps eliminating the reasons I spent the extra money to get the iPhone.

That is close to an irrational statement. Things change and hardware gets reconfigured usually for the better. What you where willing to spend money on this year should have no bearing on how you percieve Apples products 3 or 6 months down the calendar. Apple has little choice but to improve each and every one of it's products otherwise the competition will do it for Apple. Frankly GPS in a new Touch would be ideal.

While I believe that Apple will deliver new hardware with GPS I don't see it going into all Touch models. That simply because I belive they want to deliver low end Touch hardware. Low end however doesn't mean there won't be a family of devices that at some point adds BluTooth, GPS and what have you.

In any event the smart reason to go with IPhone over Touch is simply this -->3G<-- ! From the standpoint of value it really makes iPhone worthwhile.



C+P would be nice, but I really never had a huge reason for it. Yes it would have been handy a bunch of times, but I want MMS more.

I am REALLY REALLY hoping for something like simplify media, but made by apple. I can finally get rid of the iPhone play list I have.

I have no idea what you are talking about here!

As for MMS I doubt that will ever happen. I don't think Apple wants to get into that mess and frankly I'm not convinced that AT&T want to support it any longer than it has to. There are just to many other way to transmit such data on a micro computer that I don't see any value for the average user.

As to copy & past well it would be interesting to see how that gets implemented. The biggest problem I generally have is getting contact info from other apps into the contacts list. If Apple came up with a smart way to do that the would be off to a good start.

What I really want to see is an app or feature that allows disk mode access. By that I mean a finder like app that can be used to rummage through stored documents and open them with the right app. I've mentioned this before but the ability to carry certain documents with you, in common formats like PDF, HTML and the like, would be extremely useful. In essence I want an app that gives me finder like access to documents.

Dave

[scirica]

I'm keeping my expectations low...give me copy/paste and i'll be happy.

[scirica]

There's several simple improvements Apple needs to make to the iPhone OS - or at least as a former Win Moblile 5 user, that I would like to see:


5. Ability to disable the spell checker or set it to replace the world only when selected, instead of automatic replacement. It's a PIA to type unusual names or abbreviations then have the stupid spell checker replace them while your trying to type. Also the transmission indicator for SMS is unnecessary - I'd rather be able to go to another message and start typing. Also the ability to have multiple conversations going at the same time would be nice - using tabs. Having to exit one individuals conversation and enter anothers is so gauche...

That would be a good start - IMHO.

I would love to see this...I HATE the spell checker when I'm on websites and logging in.

[queshy]

I want stability. Enough features already.

SMS lag drives me nuts. Maybe better power management would be nice, though it seems they've done the best they can on this since Jobs has once said that Mac OS knows how to manage power and they've built that right into the OS...*grumbles*

[Clayne]

This story just appeared on Digg(under my NetNewsWire):
"iTunes 8 Accidentally Leaked"
When the page loaded I immediately noticed that the download button was out of place. I didn’t think anything of it as this happens in Opera quite often. I hovered over it for a few seconds and noticed that the URL was something about iTunes 8.0. I When the d/l finished I started the install process and sure enough, the splash screen read Itunes 8

Don't know if it's coincidence but Digg went down about 5 minutes after that was posted so I can't see a link or anything, just that synopsis of the story.

Anybody gunna comment on this?

[Beric]

This story just appeared on Digg(under my NetNewsWire):
"iTunes 8 Accidentally Leaked"
When the page loaded I immediately noticed that the download button was out of place. I didn’t think anything of it as this happens in Opera quite often. I hovered over it for a few seconds and noticed that the URL was something about iTunes 8.0. I When the d/l finished I started the install process and sure enough, the splash screen read Itunes 8

Don't know if it's coincidence but Digg went down about 5 minutes after that was posted so I can't see a link or anything, just that synopsis of the story.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=558433

Arn probably doesn't think it's important enough to even put on Page 2. :)

[hexonxonx]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=558433

Arn probably doesn't think it's important enough to even put on Page 2. :)

Yeah, it's not a big deal at all. Blah blah blah.

[Krevnik]

I want stability. Enough features already.

SMS lag drives me nuts. Maybe better power management would be nice, though it seems they've done the best they can on this since Jobs has once said that Mac OS knows how to manage power and they've built that right into the OS...*grumbles*

Doesn't mean a bad implementation or a bug in some feature can't do bad things to the battery life. I'm starting to notice that WiFi + MobileMe syncing = dead battery, even if I turn off push. Yet if I leave WiFi off, the battery will last literally double to quadruple the time.

An OS can be very battery efficient, but if an app or some other daemon sits there and grinds through the CPU, the battery will be drained pretty fast. Can't get around that other than fix the bad app/daemon.

[nsayer]

what are the chances that apple paired up with TomTom or TeleNav to co-develop a GPS/nav app?

Given that TeleNav has been working on a nav app on their own for some time now, I'd say about 0.

[pierrezeb]

I know it has nothing to do with the thread but since a lot of you are complaining about it here it is :
The solution for back ups time problems has been posted here :
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1598363&tstart=0

By a guy named " geauxracerx ".

Before doing this I had back-ups as long as 2 hours, now they hardly last longer than a minute !
Please note though, that you will loose all your applications data, but it's really worth the doing, believe me.. You do it once and for all.
EDIT :Also, the first back-up you'll do after that will be long, mine was 45 minutes with a lot of apps, but it's normal since this one is the actual full back up of the device. After that they're really quick, even after adding some applications data. I've done this a week ago and my back ups times are still under a minute.

Here is the actual post if you don't want to read the whole thread :

Honestly people here is the solution! I promise it works!

Go into iTunes Edit/Preferences the last tab sync disable auto sync for all iPod and iPhones. This does not fix it it is just the first step do not stop here.

Next connect your iPhone to the computer. Once it shows up in iTunes go into the last tab Applications. Uncheck sync all apps. not Click apply. Now click sync. it will remove all the applications! After it is finished unplug the iPhone. I bet you will have at least one app still on the Iphone, maybe more. Hold any icon down until they jiggle. tap the x's and delete all the remaing apps. You may notice after you delete each app that a little spinning circle is next to your 3G icon on the top right hand side. Let it finish spinning before you delete the next app.

Once you have deleted all the remaining apps (That had corrupt data that was causing your long back ups!) do a hard reset. To do this hold the sleep/wake button and the home button until the red slider appears at the top of the screen. Slide it over and the phone will power off. You will again notice the spinning circle. Once it finishes wait a few seconds and power the iPhone back on by pressing the sleep/wake button.

While it is booting back up go into iTunes again turn the auto sync back on! Now connect the iPhone to the computer, let it backup and sync. I bet you a million dollars it goes so fast you want to cry or laugh. Now after it finishes go back to the applications tab. Click sync apps again, but make sure you have the 2nd circle checked. This box is sync selected apps. Make sure all the boxes are unchecked! Now slowly begin adding apps back to the iPhone. I have done as many as 5 at a time. Check the boxes then click apply, then sync. It will backup then add the applications and sync all other information.

Someone try it and confirm to these people it works. I'm willing to put money on it! I have done it on both my iPhones and 4 others.

Here is the kicker! DO NOT update or install apps from the phone! Only use iTunes to install and or update apps until they get the bug fixed!

[MrCrowbar]

What I really want to see is an app or feature that allows disk mode access. By that I mean a finder like app that can be used to rummage through stored documents and open them with the right app. I've mentioned this before but the ability to carry certain documents with you, in common formats like PDF, HTML and the like, would be extremely useful. In essence I want an app that gives me finder like access to documents.

Dave

I got an app called "WildEyes" on my 1.1.4 iPhone that does exactly that. Don't know if they have a version for firmware 2.x yet. It involves an http server on the iPhone so Safari can access the PDFs etc. I sync my files over AFP usually, then the iPhone shows up like a network drive in the Finder.

[daneoni]

I just want stability, its the major reason i downgrade from 2.0.x back to 1.1.4 .

-Search within iPod/Email would also be nice after all people have thousands of songs/100s of email. Speaking of email a unified inbox would also be nice

-I don't see video recording or any camera updates happening in the existing iPhone models, its probably coming when they boost the camera in the next revision

-Im not holding my breath for MMS either or even copy/past even though the latter will probably happen in the future.

-A full bluetooth stack would be welcomed as well

But all in all i want the stability of 1.1.4 first & foremost before i upgrade and the search thing would be a welcomed bonus although unlikely

In fact i think i'll be disappointed overall on Tues...hopefully i'm not

[captain kaos]

I don't want copy & paste, i don't want ichat, i just don't want to have a 30 second pause when i hit Contacts till the time i can actually search my contacts. Plus all the other delays, typing in SMS, sending an SMS, etc, etc. Lets fix these issues before releasing any "Hidden Features".

This has happened since 2.0.2

[zedsdead]

I don't want copy & paste, i don't want ichat, i just don't want to have a 30 second pause when i hit Contacts till the time i can actually search my contacts. Plus all the other delays, typing in SMS, sending an SMS, etc, etc. Lets fix these issues before releasing any "Hidden Features".

This has happened since 2.0.2

It's happened with 2.0 for me, on both versions of the iPhone. It is pathetic Apple hasn't fixed it yet, on top of all the other bugs. Stability better be coming.

[misch1516]

Finally going to switch from blackberry to iphone if the new improvements seem to promise enough stability. Any idea (I'm only a recent convert -- also waiting sadly and frustratedly on the new macbooks) when the new updates would be available for purchase? I.e., could I go buy a phone Wednesday, or should I wait a week or two until new units are shipped?

:confused:

[Myk the Sith]

So, this morning I was checking out the NetShare site and they make reference to needing a "tether-authorized data plan from AT&T."

To my knowledge, there is not such thing yet.

My speculation, and I published it over at newsvine, is that they're going to announce a new data plan. They won't announce tethering, because they haven't had time to beta-test that - it's going to be a completely 3rd party process.

Here's my article:
http://darkside.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/08/1840713-speculation-apple-to-announce-iphone-tethering-tomorrow

[arkmannj]

give me Copy+Paste, stability, profiles and I'll be happy
(Profiles for different system settings (like: sound settings, brightness, wireless, etc), mayb even different home screen layouts etc.

Different profile examples: atHome, atWork, Traveling, InCar, ParentsHouse, etc.. etc..)

and a built in way to share my net connection with my mac

[allenski]

hopefully it will fix iphone applications crashing.

[queshy]

Doesn't mean a bad implementation or a bug in some feature can't do bad things to the battery life. I'm starting to notice that WiFi + MobileMe syncing = dead battery, even if I turn off push. Yet if I leave WiFi off, the battery will last literally double to quadruple the time.

An OS can be very battery efficient, but if an app or some other daemon sits there and grinds through the CPU, the battery will be drained pretty fast. Can't get around that other than fix the bad app/daemon.

Yeah I suppose you're right. After all, Scott talked about how apps shoudln't have to run in the background because they take up processor cycles and thus battery life and performance. I haven't noticed what you said about MobileMe, but you could be right. It's weird how it still happens even when turning off push...hrmmm...

[QuarterSwede]

I know it has nothing to do with the thread but since a lot of you are complaining about it here it is :
The solution for back ups time problems has been posted here :
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1598363&tstart=0

By a guy named " geauxracerx ".

Before doing this I had back-ups as long as 2 hours, now they hardly last longer than a minute !
Please note though, that you will loose all your applications data, but it's really worth the doing, believe me.. You do it once and for all.
EDIT :Also, the first back-up you'll do after that will be long, mine was 45 minutes with a lot of apps, but it's normal since this one is the actual full back up of the device. After that they're really quick, even after adding some applications data. I've done this a week ago and my back ups times are still under a minute.

Here is the actual post if you don't want to read the whole thread :

[B]Honestly people here is the solution! I promise it works!

snip
I can also confirm this method works. Since doing it I have also experienced a lot more stability. The only consistent app crash I've had is Safari and everyone knows how crashy Safari currently is. Although, Dizzy Bee froze once and made me have to do a restart but it hasn't happened again and I didn't lose any data.

*I know I've said this before in other threads but since nobody seems to be reading the workaround I feel I'll keep saying something until it's either fixed by Apple or the thread I made about it (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=6185275) gets made a sticky.

[bobbleheadbob]

I just hope they fix the g-d iPhone software ASAP. It's driving me nutz. Apps crashing all the time, and now I'm stuck in the airport hoping the phone completes its forever "backup" so I can sync before my next flight is called! It takes forever and is ridiculous compared to how well and quickly the version 1.x software worked!!! :mad:

[ravenvii]

I just hope they fix the g-d iPhone software ASAP. It's driving me nutz. Apps crashing all the time, and now I'm stuck in the airport hoping the phone completes its forever "backup" so I can sync before my next flight is called! It takes forever and is ridiculous compared to how well and quickly the version 1.x software worked!!! :mad:

You do know that you can just click the little "x" next to the progress bar to skip the backup?

[Remster]

It's weird, but there are actually quite a few buying classics out there. Where I work, I'd say there are more people with iPod classics (purchased from Sep 07 onwards) than iPod nanos (3G). I like the idea of a Hard Drive touch - but that would probably make it thicker and a little slower. Anyway, I'm happy with my iPhone 3G (16GB is enough storage for me), so I'm hoping Steve will release 2.1 today. It would be brilliant to have the volume controls on the side be configured for previous song/next song (instead of up/down).

[Apple Ink]

You do know that you can just click the little "x" next to the progress bar to skip the backup?

Then whats the point of 'Backup'

Better still in this regard would be to disable the feature (feature indeed as of now[sarcasm]) in iTunes!

No... its a flaw that Apple needs to fix.... and quickly!

[JasonDawg18]

I have an unlocked iphone, running with TMobile. If Apple does release the updates for the iPhone today, can I update it? Will it relock my phone? I don't care about the jailbreaking, just the unlocking...

Thanks!

[Apple Ink]

I have an unlocked iphone, running with TMobile. If Apple does release the updates for the iPhone today, can I update it? Will it relock my phone? I don't care about the jailbreaking, just the unlocking...

Thanks!

Yes... there's a 99% chance it will and a great probability that it might nuke your iPhone as well! Till date there's only been 1 iPhone update that hasnt done a great deal to unlocks! Wait for a few weeks and the dev team is bound to come out with a new unlock for the 2.1 firmware!

[koobcamuk]

Why on earth do people still harp on about MMS? Soon, most people will email on phones - sharing much nicer pictures I bet. MMS is capped by small pictures and basically look awful. I haven't MMSd for years.

[Kilamite]

Why on earth do people still harp on about MMS? Soon, most people will email on phones - sharing much nicer pictures I bet. MMS is capped by small pictures and basically look awful. I haven't MMSd for years.

MMS pictures aren't always bad quality - depends on the device. Some can be quite good quality (obviously not as good as taking the picture and emailing it, since it is resized) but good enough.

And because MMS is a huge thing to leave out - fair enough maybe you won't use it, but aside from a few of my friends who have iPhones, none have smart phones with email. Pretty annoying for them to send me a message saying "hey, here's a picture of my new car, want to go for a ride?" and not be able to receive the picture.

If everybody used email on phones, then SMS texting would be obsolete too, so Apple might as well take that out.

[sunfast]

Why on earth do people still harp on about MMS? Soon, most people will email on phones - sharing much nicer pictures I bet. MMS is capped by small pictures and basically look awful. I haven't MMSd for years.

MMS messaging lets you send and receive contacts. Something I sorely miss with the iPhone

[MacBass]

I'll hold my applause for something that is revolutionary.

I concur, lately Apple has not been showing any impressive hardware updates, especially regarding video cards for the MP, and updates for the Mini. However, I highly doubt that we'll see those today, probably just some new colors for the nano.

[Apple Ink]

Why on earth do people still harp on about MMS? Soon, most people will email on phones - sharing much nicer pictures I bet. MMS is capped by small pictures and basically look awful. I haven't MMSd for years.

I'm in agreement! I havent MMSd in ages (even before iPhone!) And as far as contacts are concerned.... I prefer to ask the person directly!

[Epix]

So what's the deal? Are we getting an update today and what's in it?

[koobcamuk]

If everybody used email on phones, then SMS texting would be obsolete too, so Apple might as well take that out.

True in the most part, but people SMS so much more than MMS and cost is a factor. 35p for an MMS? I hardly ever sent one.

Free email (inclusive) to any address, mobile or computer. All over the world. I email my friends in Japan with photos and it's great. Couldn't do that before.

SMS is quite important, at least for now. MMS really didn't catch on in the UK to my knowledge - mostly because of the prices. Sure, people send the odd dirty photo, the odd one of a car or baby - but usually just text or take a photo and email it to a computer. Obviously this is all in my experience, but I asked friends and no-one MMSs.

[iphonesarecool]

Let's Rock

[daneoni]

Underwhelming...just as expected