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[NT1440]

This pathetic event was not event-worthy. And Apple promoing it to the press like the second coming is out of line for what they delivered on. We are not out of line, Apple was.

you read far too much into rumors my friend. Like i stated, prove that it was apples PR departments decision to claim its a big event. And by most standards this was a big event. Newly designed ipods, itunes finally reaching 8, fixing their screw up, all that adds up pretty substantially.

Maybe your idea of what a big deal is is out of sync with what apple and its shareholders find to be a big deal.

honest question, what was it you were expecting. and why.

[Formativeyears]

Does the new ipod touch have the same microphone voice recording function that is built into the new nano?

[Wild-Bill]

That link doesnt show me proof that apples entire PR department sent the message out.

Well that wasn't the only place the story appeared. Stop going against the grain. The event WASN'T a big deal, it DIDN'T need a keynote, and it was UNDERWHELMING, in keeping with Apple's performance as of late.

[carfac]

:rolleyes: the term "apple pr" could mean one man, it could be many.

Notice how only one person has said they were contacted. You really cant see one guy in the pr department being on the phone getting journalists, and saying "its going to be a big deal" ?

That link doesnt show me proof that apples entire PR department sent the message out.

You asked for a link, I got it. One person or 1000, it does not matter. If Apple PR says it, it is Apple talking. That is what a PR department is for- to speak for the corp. If it was someone speaking out of turn as Apple's pr department, they would have been fired and you would have heard.

I have shown you the proof you asked for- goole will find you more. Don't change the rules after the fact just because they don't fit your concept.

[NT1440]

Does the new ipod touch have the same microphone voice recording function that is built into the new nano?

THAT is a very good question.

[goosnarrggh]

:rolleyes: the term "apple pr" could mean one man, it could be many.

Notice how only one person has said they were contacted. You really cant see one guy in the pr department being on the phone getting journalists, and saying "its going to be a big deal" ?

That link doesnt show me proof that apples entire PR department sent the message out.

If the PR guy was working on Apple's dime making official correspondence with outside entities, then it is reasonable for the person on the receiving end of the correspondence to accept the PR guy's words as Apple's official opinion, regardless of whether or not that was originally Apple's intention.

If Apple never intended for the PR guy to use the words "big deal" in reference to this event, then regardless of whether or not they had intended that message to get out or not, Apple ends up with egg on its face. Apple is accountable for what was said. The remedy is likely something like quietly canceling that PR guy's bonus this year.

[carfac]

prove that it was apples PR departments decision to claim its a big event

Maybe you should actually read the link I posted...

This type of call is unusual for Apple, who generally tries to keep details about its press events secret. This could be a hint that the event will introduce more then just a revamp to the iPod.

This again implies it was APPLES officail position (not a lone employee as you seem to think) that this was to be a big event. Turns out to be a dud.

[NT1440]

If the PR guy was working on Apple's dime making official correspondence with outside entities, then it is reasonable for the person on the receiving end of the correspondence to accept the PR guy's words as Apple's official opinion, regardless of whether or not that was originally Apple's intention.

If Apple never intended for the PR guy to use the words "big deal" in reference to this event, then regardless of whether or not they had intended that message to get out or not, Apple ends up with egg on its face. Apple is accountable for what was said. The remedy is likely something like quietly canceling that PR guy's bonus this year.
the underlined is what you need to keep in mind. You guys expect apples PR team to be unfailing masters of language? it could have been a slip of the tounge, plain and simple. Or not.

By most standards, this would have been a big event, it was just overshadowed by foolish rumors.

[Ironduke]

I'll be more specific - what were you expecting in a product that apple didn't deliver?

people expected more from this event because so far in 2008 the mac line has been treated like *****.

my 3 year old mini and my 2 year old blackbook are a match for the said models available today, in the technology world thats a joke.... and now we must wait even longer as PC users get better technology for less money then us loyal mac users:rolleyes:

[medicstl]

I'll be more specific - what were you expecting in a product that apple didn't deliver?
Milo...I appreciate your information. How bout this...when do You think the new MB & MBP are coming out? With what updates to hardware and or cost? I think thats what most that are dissappointed were Hopefully expecting...you know..."Bombshell"

[Wild-Bill]

Maybe your idea of what a big deal is is out of sync with what apple and its shareholders find to be a big deal.


:rolleyes: Uh, no. I think your ideas are out of sync, or you're simply trolling.

Apple's stock yesterday morning was 164.00. As of 320pm yesterday it was 157.00. Today, right now, it's $150.34 [-7.52(-4.71%)] and falling.

[andiwm2003]

:rolleyes: the term "apple pr" could mean one man, it could be many.

Notice how only one person has said they were contacted. You really cant see one guy in the pr department being on the phone getting journalists, and saying "its going to be a big deal" ?

That link doesnt show me proof that apples entire PR department sent the message out.

i guess it's not only that. apple also said they will have less profit in the fall because of some new revolutionary product. and steve also said they will have exciting new things in the fall. so all this with the event today of course creates a lot of hype. and in the end it's a software update, a bugfix and an ipod update. on top of that a lot of students had the silly hope they get new macbooks with the back to school promotion.

i'm not disappointed because i like the new nano though. i'll wait for the reviews to see how it handles audiobooks and then i might get one. my 4G iPod is a POS that can't even remember where i left off an audiobook. it also has an extremely slow user interface and you can hear a whirring sound from the HD in the headphones. it almost makes me not buy iPods anymore ever. in fact i held off buying an ipod for three years because my ipod is such a piece of crap. but now it's battery dies and i need soon a new one.

[viccles]

For once, I'm not rushing to buy after an Apple event. The colours of the nano are nice, but nothing special to me. I could have slept in :mad: Please release the MBs and MBPs soon!

[NT1440]

Maybe you should actually read the link I posted...



This again implies it was APPLES officail position (not a lone employee as you seem to think) that this was to be a big event. Turns out to be a dud.

Well mayb if you actually read the article youd notice that ur little quote is pure speculation from an internet blog. I read the line that said an Apple pr guy on the phone told him it would be a big deal. It never gave direct quotes as to how the conversation went. That alone opens it up for speculation, from both ends

[cv01]

Well with the new grid view right next to cover flow i'm really missing the list view with covers to the left in iTunes 8.

[carfac]

You guys expect apples PR team to be unfailing masters of language? it could have been a slip of the tounge, plain and simple. Or not.

You fanbois just can face reality when it goes against Apple, can you?

Yes, I do expect the PR team to be unfailing. They are PROFESSIONAL SPEAKERS. They get paid to communicate EXACTLY what Apple wants them to. And, if they should happen to overstate something, thery issue a clarification. Which they have had 6 days to do. No clarification... it IS what Apple wanted out there.

A slip of the tongue? Are you REALLY that naive?

By most standards, this would have been a big event, it was just overshadowed by foolish rumors.

Wrong. By ANY standard, this was a lame event. No new products, just minor upgrades in capacity and color. A software revision they had previously promised. Certyianly not the "Big" event Apple promised... and thus even more dissapointing.

[NT1440]

i guess it's not only that. apple also said they will have less profit in the fall because of some new revolutionary product. and steve also said they will have exciting new things in the fall. so all this with the event today of course creates a lot of hype. and in the end it's a software update, a bugfix and an ipod update. on top of that a lot of students had the silly hope they get new macbooks with the back to school promotion.

again, that is reading too much into this single event. The fall is an entire quarter of a year, and if im not mistaken today is september 9th. Expectations were too high simply because we take rumors and news and try to piece them together when in reality all we are doing is speculating

[Trajectory]

By ANY standard, this was a lame event. No new products, just minor upgrades in capacity and color. A software revision they had previously promised. Certyianly not the "Big" event Apple promised... and thus even more dissapointing.

I agree it was a bit disappointing, but, it's not true that there weren't any new products.

* New iPod Nano.
* Improved iPod Touch.
* New version of iTunes.
* New HD TV content.

Nothing groundbreaking or what I would call a "big deal," but, there is new stuff.

[NT1440]

:rolleyes: Uh, no. I think your ideas are out of sync, or you're simply trolling.

Apple's stock yesterday morning was 164.00. As of 320pm yesterday it was 157.00. Today, right now, it's $150.34 [-7.52(-4.71%)] and falling.

....and what happens when the products are acutally released and the swarms of people buy for the xmas season?

exactly.

[AlwaysHopeful]

Hurray

[Phil A.]

Well with the new grid view right next to cover flow i'm really missing the list view with covers to the left in iTunes 8.

Go into List View, then click on the View Menu and select "Show Artwork Column". Or, simply click the triangle in the first column header, next to the Name heading...

[milo]

people expected more from this event because so far in 2008 the mac line has been treated like *****.

my 3 year old mini and my 2 year old blackbook are a match for the said models available today, in the technology world thats a joke.... and now we must wait even longer as PC users get better technology for less money then us loyal mac users:rolleyes:

Milo...I appreciate your information. How bout this...when do You think the new MB & MBP are coming out? With what updates to hardware and or cost? I think thats what most that are dissappointed were Hopefully expecting...you know..."Bombshell"

This was a music event. The invite said that. The rumors confirmed that.

Apple rarely if ever makes computer and ipod announcements at the same event.

I just don't get why people expected computer announcements today. I don't know when apple will update things (and I absolutely agree that updates are overdue for a number of models), but it will be at its own event, not lumped in with iPods. If there are speed bumps or price drops, there may not be an event at all.

[Scarpad]

Million Dollar Question is the screen on the New Ipods anybetter than the previous screen, comparable to the 3g? Or What?

[cv01]

Go into List View, then click on the View Menu and select "Show Artwork Column". Or, simply click the triangle in the first column header, next to the Name heading...

Perfect, thx!

[medicstl]

....and what happens when the products are acutally released and the swarms of people buy for the xmas season?

exactly.

I am one of those "Halo" buyers...i-Phone, Touch ect.....I will wait a month or 2 for a MB. My Ex had one(yes she took it) and I loved it. Santa....I want a new MB for X-mas

[milo]

So to all those saying apple shouldn't have had an event at all, and just put these up on their website...

Has apple ever introduced a new form factor of iPod in the past without an event?

[cv01]

Mh, so next question, how does one disable the links to the iTunes Store for the song playing in iTunes 8? :confused:

[Phil A.]

the iPod range is the biggest selling personal music player in the world, and the iTunes store is the biggest music outlet in the USA.
Updates to these therefore interest a lot of people and make it worthy of an event.
I'm happy with my current iPods so probably won't be buying this time around, (the new touch does look very tempting though in 32GB :D), but it's good to see Apple revamping their lineup to keep ahead of the pack

[Phil A.]

Mh, so next question, how does one disable the links to the iTunes Store for the song playing in iTunes 8? :confused:

Is this the Genius sidebar on the right? Click the boxed arrow at the bottom right hand corner of the screen.
If it's the mini-store at the bottom (not sure if that's still there in 8, as it seems to disappear once you enable the Genius), then I think it's in the Store menu

[diamond.g]

Lots of people think they know, but nobody can really say for sure until apple clarifies.

I wonder if the iPhone needs 2.1 to use it? Apple has not listed compatibility for certain products at the time of their release in the past then added them later.
The Apple rep who spoke to me said that it will tell you everything you need to know over the headphones, and if you have speakable items set up on your computer, the nano will inherit the voice you chose to use. It's unclear whether this feature will also be part of iPod touches and iPhones.From Arstechnica... So if we were to believe that the new earbuds have a volume feature that even Apple isn't quite sure if it would work.

[cv01]

Is this the Genius sidebar on the right? Click the boxed arrow at the bottom right hand corner of the screen.
If it's the mini-store at the bottom (not sure if that's still there in 8, as it seems to disappear once you enable the Genius), then I think it's in the Store menu

http://i33.tinypic.com/2je1xd4.png
I'm talking about the arrow linking to the iTunes Store, in 7.7 one was able to turn the links off, can't seem to find this option in 8.0.

[pooryou]

Removing the 160GB Classic was such a stupid decision which makes no sense, I think the reason must be because their Classic iPod OS can't handle that much content...that's why 160GB Classics that are full tend to crash a lot -- plus don't really have good enough sorting. SO they gave up....pathetic.

[KindredMAC]

Wonder how many "shots in the mouth" NBC had to take before Apple said "OK, that's enough, get up off your knees, go get yourself cleaned up and we'll continue our meeting about letting you back into the iTunes store."?

*zzzziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip* <-Apple's fly as NBC walks to the bathroom with their head hung down in shame.

"Can you believe NBC took that for an hour and a half???? Wow they must have finally realized how stupid they were for leaving us!"

dude, that is crazy

hey hey, so off color but too funny. well played!!
It was VERY Off-Color I have to admit, but it was also my first thought when I read that NBC was back on Gizmodo's live feed during the "event".

Everyone knew that they were completely mental for leaving Apple. If the RIAA hasn't been able to crack Apple's shell about pricing what did NBC/G.E. actually think they were going to be able to get out of Apple, especially when every other channel out there has been tripping over each other to get their stuff up onto iTunes???

[Wild-Bill]

....and what happens when the products are acutally released and the swarms of people buy for the xmas season?

exactly.

That is completely off-topic and besides the point. The rub here in this thread is that the event was underwhelming. But you just go right on ahead being a fanboy and defending Apple to the nth degree. I bet you were one of those misguided souls that also defended Apple the day after MobileMe came out.... :rolleyes:

[NT1440]

Removing the 160GB Classic was such a stupid decision which makes no sense, I think the reason must be because their Classic iPhone OS can't handle that much content...that's why 160GB Classics that are full tend to crash a lot -- plus don't really have good enough sorting. SO they gave up....pathetic.

....the iphone OS cant handle blah blah, what are you talking about?

the classic is entirely seperate from the iphone.

also, i suspect that not that many people were filling 160 GB with their libraries, and as stated before they did away with the fatter model, it saves all around really. SLIGHTLY smaller capacity (when talkiing about music ne way), all lines use uniform parts now. From a cost of production standpoint, its a great move making everything uniform.

[mrgreen4242]

Bah, the new headphones are for the new iPods from today only. STILL NO REMOTE FOR THE (old) TOUCH OR (any) IPHONE!

LAME!!!!!

[Phil A.]

Removing the 160GB Classic was such a stupid decision which makes no sense, I think the reason must be because their Classic iPhone OS can't handle that much content...that's why 160GB Classics that are full tend to crash a lot -- plus don't really have good enough sorting. SO they gave up....pathetic.

I can kind of understand why they did it (not that I agree with it!) - the Classic is the only one now that has different form factors for different capacities, which means extra tooling, etc.
Also, if you have a library big enough to justify the 160GB over the 120GB then it's likely to be bigger than that and you're going to have to manage it with playlists, etc for either size.
Finally, I think the days when you could carry all your media in your pocket are behind us and I also think hard disk based music players are in their death throes: Two more increases in size for the touch and we'll be at 128MB which is (conveniently) bigger than the now largest classic: I expect the 120MB to be the last HDD based iPod Apple make...

[NT1440]

That is completely off-topic and besides the point. The rub here in this thread is that the event was underwhelming. But you just go right on ahead being a fanboy and defending Apple to the nth degree. I bet you were one of those misguided souls that also defended Apple the day after MobileMe came out.... :rolleyes:

ooh god help me, uve labeled me! oh no.

how is the stock price during the xmas season irrelevent when you where the one bringing up a dip during the event (DURING THE EVENT) when in actuality only speculation would cause that current dip, as wallstreet wont readily know about the updates or how they will sell. The stock price is only relevent when the products actually go on sale.

and no, i didnt defend mobile me, that was a big mistake on their part, but you seem to take anything apple does personally. So tell me, whos the fanboy?

Im just stating what i see from a marketing perspective, and from that view, this was a big event with all the new products/updates. Apparantly you were watching from a "this is what i want even tho anyone with half a brain wouldnt expect anything radically new (especially a computer) at an ipod event, and if apple doesnt deliver the product that I want ill throw a tantrum" viewpoint.

[NT1440]

Bah, the new headphones are for the new iPods from today only. STILL NO REMOTE FOR THE (old) TOUCH OR (any) IPHONE!

LAME!!!!!

:confused: those new earbuds dont come with any ipod....

[pooryou]

Also, if you have a library big enugh to justify the 160GB over the 120GB then it's likely to be bigger than that and you're going to have to manage it with playlists, etc for either size.

I would be happy to do this, if there was a good way to do it that still syncs ALL your playlists. The only way to do it now is to uncheck all the music that won't fit before syncing, NOT a good solution at all.


IFinally, I think the days when you could carry all your media in your pocket are behind us and I also think hard disk based music players are in their death throes: Two more increases in size for the touch and we'll be at 128MB which is (conveniently) bigger than the now largest classic: I expect the 120MB to be the last HDD based iPod Apple make...

That would be utterly stupid and a complete and total failure. Good for Microsoft though!

[Wild-Bill]

Apparantly you were watching from a "this is what i want even tho anyone with half a brain wouldnt expect anything radically new (especially a computer) at an ipod event, and if apple doesnt deliver the product that I want ill throw a tantrum" viewpoint.

Wow, that was so insightful. Spare me the dime psychology lesson, professor fanboy. :rolleyes: I actually have everything I want at the moment, except maybe for an updated ACD but I gave up on them materializing long, long ago.

[milo]

From Arstechnica... So if we were to believe that the new earbuds have a volume feature that even Apple isn't quite sure if it would work.

I'm not sure what you mean "even Apple isn't quite sure if it would work"? It hasn't shipped yet and we don't have full info yet. We just don't know either way, it makes more sense to just wait for clarification than to just make wild guesses.

Removing the 160GB Classic was such a stupid decision which makes no sense, I think the reason must be because their Classic iPod OS can't handle that much content...that's why 160GB Classics that are full tend to crash a lot -- plus don't really have good enough sorting. SO they gave up....pathetic.

Or that it simply isn't selling.

That is completely off-topic and besides the point. The rub here in this thread is that the event was underwhelming. But you just go right on ahead being a fanboy and defending Apple to the nth degree. I bet you were one of those misguided souls that also defended Apple the day after MobileMe came out.... :rolleyes:

It's not besides the point at all.

There are always incredibly high expectations for apple events, often so high that they can't be met regardless of what is announced. It's very common for AAPL to drop regardless of what is announced (as well it's very common for those on message boards to insist that it was the most disappointing announcement ever). And invariably the products sell well and the stock price goes right back up.

It doesn't matter if the people on this message board liked the event, or really even if the press did. The only thing that matters is if the new product sells.

Who really cares if it was "underwhelming" as long as sales of the new nanos and touches are strong?

I would be happy to do this, if there was a good way to do it that still syncs ALL your playlists. The only way to do it now is to uncheck all the music that won't fit before syncing, NOT a good solution at all.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but it's easy to have the ipod only sync playlists (and certain ones) instead of syncing all music.

[Crown]

I love the new visualizer. I just spent 20 minutes staring at it, and I'm completely sober. :)

[pooryou]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but it's easy to have the ipod only sync playlists (and certain ones) instead of syncing all music.

I want to sync all my smart playlists. Not just certain ones.

The way a smart playlist is treated as a regular playlist when syncing is......lame. Another thing they probably didn't fix.

[mrgreen4242]

:confused: those new earbuds dont come with any ipod....

The built in remote (and mic, which isn't surprising) only works on the 4th gen nanos, 2nd gen touches, and newest classic iPod. They won't work with the 1st gen touch, or the iPhone. There's still no remote available (from Apple) for the iPhone or original touch (he remote/FM tuner works on the older iPods but not the touch, maybe not the 3rd gen nano).

I don't know what there is to be confused about.

[milo]

I want to sync all my smart playlists. Not just certain ones.

The way a smart playlist is treated as a regular playlist when syncing is......lame. Another thing they probably didn't fix.

So you check all your smart playlists. What am I missing?

[rjohnstone]

The stock price is only relevent when the products actually go on sale.

You actually have no idea how the market works do you?

The market reacts to NEWS... any news.
News affects price. Rumor can affect price.
A mouse farting in the factory affects the price.

The market was just as aware of what was happening as the rest of us were, and it reacted negatively.
Apple stock closed down at $151.68, that's $6.24 below the opening price for the day.
Apple is still pricing their products at a premium and the market knows that sales will be weaker than normal due to the current state of the economy.

And just a hint... When the new iPods went on sale after the speech, the stock price fell another $2 and change.

The market reacts very quickly and without prejudice. ;)

[Trajectory]

I love the new visualizer. I just spent 20 minutes staring at it, and I'm completely sober. :)

LOL!!!

[milo]

The market was just as aware of what was happening as the rest of us were, and it reacted negatively.

Yep. But as long as these sell well, the stock price goes right back up, so unless you absolutely have to sell today, who cares? The market is notorious for knocking down AAPL for no good reason, only to have it bounce right back once people figure things out. The market constantly thinks that the latest Apple announcement will be a bomb, and the sales numbers constantly prove them wrong.

Apple is still pricing their products at a premium and the market knows that sales will be weaker than normal due to the current state of the economy.

That's what you think. Despite the market reaction and all the whining here, I think sales of the new ipods will be as strong as ever.

[rcha101]

New macbooks and pros next week... watch this space.

[Bubba Satori]

The computers will get upgraded at some point, it will just be a different event.

Just look at the intel roadmap to get a hint of when it may happen.

Yes, the Intel roadmap. The way an adult company operates. Montevina mobile chipsets were announced as being available in August, and everyone, except Apple, is shipping laptops based on them NOW.
:rolleyes:

[NT1440]

The built in remote (and mic, which isn't surprising) only works on the 4th gen nanos, 2nd gen touches, and newest classic iPod. They won't work with the 1st gen touch, or the iPhone. There's still no remote available (from Apple) for the iPhone or original touch (he remote/FM tuner works on the older iPods but not the touch, maybe not the 3rd gen nano).

I don't know what there is to be confused about.

i beleive i quoted you on the headphones part of it, i dont care about the remote

[Bubba Satori]

New macbooks and pros next week... watch this space.

Can I blink ? I'll get a headache if I stare that long :eek: and can't blink. :D

[Stuart in Oz]

Just got up (Wed morning here in Australia) watched the video/read the coverage.

Wow. If I was a journalist who'd hauled *** all the was from NY to SF for that presentation I'd be sweating on putting the expense report in to my editor. The conversation would be something like: "So you blew a grand on the company Amex to see Apple launch some new coloured iPods?"

God, I hope no journos from this part of the world made the trip across the Pacific - that could be a career-ending trip.

Has anyone checked to see if the Apple Town Hall is under renovation? That's the only reason I could think of for holding it in an external venue.

All that expectation for nothing. :mad:

[milo]

Yes, the Intel roadmap. The way an adult company operates. Montevina mobile chipsets were announced as being available in August, and everyone, except Apple, is shipping laptops based on them NOW.


I don't disagree that Apple has a number of computer products that should be updated ASAP. My point is simply that it wouldn't happen at an iPod event.

[pooryou]

So you check all your smart playlists. What am I missing?

The sync transfers the literal contents of the 'smart' playlists, not just the 'rule' so you end up with more music than can fit on the iPod. The only solution is to uncheck a bunch of music before syncing, which is a pita for many reasons. It's a broken system and unfortunately I've heard nothing about it being fixed in iTunes 8.

[viccles]

Just got up (Wed morning here in Australia) watched the video/read the coverage.

Wow. If I was a journalist who'd hauled *** all the was from NY to SF for that presentation I'd be sweating on putting the expense report in to my editor. The conversation would be something like: "So you blew a grand on the company Amex to see Apple launch some new coloured iPods?"

God, I hope no journos from this part of the world made the trip across the Pacific - that could be a career-ending trip.

Has anyone checked to see if the Apple Town Hall is under renovation? That's the only reason I could think of for holding it in an external venue.

All that expectation for nothing. :mad:

I woke up in the early hours to look...I could have slept in :mad:

[Bubba Satori]

I don't disagree that Apple has a number of computer products that should be updated ASAP. My point is simply that it wouldn't happen at an iPod event.

I agree. I was just hoping for one more thing. A small bone tossed to Apple's red headed step children, computer users. Like at least one computer related update. :(

[teme]

During this year I have had feelings that Apple's passion and ambition seems to be moving away from computers to iPhone/iPod. Maybe Apple should make two divisions, and put Steve to media device division, and give the computer division for someone else to lead - someone who has passion for it.

[DaveTheGrey]

The accelerometer was definitely a surprise for me!

[Jaiden]

Firstly, I would like to say to all the people who are complaining about everything in the keynote, get over it. Seriously.

Btw, do they usually have a person singing for 10 minutes after the keynote (at music related ones)?

[Bubba Satori]

During this year I have had feelings that Apple's passion and ambition seems to be moving away from computers to iPhone/iPod. Maybe Apple should make two divisions, and put Steve to media device division, and give the computer division for someone else to lead - someone who has passion for it.


I agree.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Steve_Wozniak_thumbs_up.jpg/750px-Steve_Wozniak_thumbs_up.jpg

[aaronptrck]

Hey does anyone know the songs that they are playing at the end of the keynote?

Thanks!

[jodelli]

Genius probably won't work for Classical music. :(

Moto Vivace from Beethoven Symphony #9 in Genius mode got me 'Take The Skinheads Bowling', lol!

First movement of his Pastoral #6 got me hits from baroque to Tchaikovsky.

[jodelli]

headphones are still there

But I'll still have to use my third party headphones or buy the new optional Apple buds if I wish to so much as turn my head. One of the Macworld editors had the same problem; the issue ones just do not stay put.
It sucks to be different.