So that sucked a$$...

[ViPa]

do you agree?

[TEG]

Nope. It was exactly what was expected, plus a few things we were not expecting.

TEG

[calvy]

do you agree?

Without a doubt.

[SFC Archer]

Your poll is missing..."Doesn't Matter...It's What I Expected"

[bmh16]

Blimey people are never happy on here about what happens. Just count it as more and a lot better then before. And don't browse these forums if you're only going to be disappointed. Because you always will be if you look at all rumors on here!!

[ViPa]

Your poll is missing..."Doesn't Matter...It's What I Expected"

well, if thats what you expected, then it couldn't have disappointed you, so your answer would therefore be "nay"

[ucfgrad93]

It was ok, but then again I wasn't expecting a whole lot for the iPhone.

[SFC Archer]

well, if thats what you expected, then it couldn't have disappointed you, so your answer would therefore be "nay"

Nope....Wrong again....Didn't disappoint or Excite me in the least...its what I expected. A survey always has a minimum of three choices...for, against and indifferent/undecided.

[brian4610]

i'm trying to remember the last time i was truely excited about an apple 'event'....maybe the initial announcement of the iphone back in Jan 07, but even that was tempered by the 6 month waiting period for the release...

seriously, when was the last time you were were satisfied with an 'event'??

i know this was ipod/itunes specific, but the only thing i wanted was to hear about 2.1...and it seemed like it took all of 10 sec to announce it...if Nike+ is on the iphone, that would be nice, but it doesn't seem likely...

BTW: 2.1 on friday? WTF.

[mrowl]

do you agree?

what were you expecting? a new iPhone? One that is purple in color and can do your dishes?

Some people will NEVER be satisfied.

[bbplayer5]

Some people want more added to the phone before all the bugs are worked out... pretty funny lol...

[ViPa]

what were you expecting? a new iPhone? One that is purple in color and can do your dishes?

somethin like that :p

[scaredpoet]

Some people are never going to be satisfied with these "events." It's like being addicted to meth: they anticipate the high, but after that first one, they anticipate how good they're going to feel sooo much that they can never reach it again.

Besides, the cat was pretty much out of the bag: new iPod designs, new iTunes, firmware update for the iPhone not too far away. Did you expect Steve was also going to come out with an iSolarCar? i$10Oil? iWorldPeace? The iPresident? A new iFannieMae and iFreddieMac to finance the iMortgage on your iHouse and fix the iEconomy?

There are just more important things to get worked up - and disappointed - over.

[ViPa]

Some people are never going to be satisfied with these "events." It's like being addicted to meth: they anticipate the high, but after that first one, they anticipate how good they're going to feel sooo much that they can never reach it again.

Besides, the cat was pretty much out of the bag: new iPod designs, new iTunes, firmware update for the iPhone not too far away. Did you expect Steve was also going to come out with an iSolarCar? i$10Oil? iWorldPeace? The iPresident? A new iFannieMae and iFreddieMac to finance the iMortgage on your iHouse and fix the iEconomy?

There are just more important things to get worked up - and disappointed - over.

LOL @ the comparison between apple and meth..its definitely a close one, buddy!

[saxman]

I had no expectations, so I was not disappointed. There is always so much hype that nothing can really be delivered that satisfies everyone

[PowerFullMac]

It did, but only coz no iPhone nano came out.

To be fair, everything else that was rumoured came true.

[Evev12]

How in the world could they not even address the 3G issue. The words 3G never even came out of their mouth - dissapointing isn't even the word, it's a damn shame in my opinion, and I don't need to wait till Friday to judge the update to say that. As a company holding such a major press event it's your RESPONSIBILITY to address your clients' issues/concerns - at the very least they could have addressed the "2%" of their client base with faulty hardware! This is just bad for business and low class. To only add salt to wound they just had to throw in the whole bid about their "new features" too just to get more exposure. All they care about is selling, selling, and selling more. This wasn't about their customers, it was about selling a new product and making more money - good going Apple, you're very quickly losing any little faith I had in you. Where's the good competition already? Cause the lack of it is really making Apple way too lazy for my liking. Here's to hoping the Android phones and Nokia Tube can bring some class and customer care back to the marketshare.

[brian4610]

Some people are never going to be satisfied with these "events." It's like being addicted to meth: they anticipate the high, but after that first one, they anticipate how good they're going to feel sooo much that they can never reach it again.



HA, this might describe me perfectly...

the first event i remember is when itunes was released for windows (PC user in 2003), and i remember spending a ton of $$ that day buying songs i forgot about and filing up my recently purchased ipod....it was certainly a high that hasn't been reproduced...

kind of reminds me of Pavlov's dog, i hear "apple event", and salivate at the thought of having my mind blown...sadly i'm always a bit disappointed.

[Yaboze]

Bad

$80 earphones
Nerfing of the classic to 120GB
iPhone 2.1 on Friday and vague fixes

Good

Nanos redesign
NBC HD stuff
iTunes 8/Genius
iTouch 2.1
iTouch changes

I know it's not related but a mention of 10.5.5 would have been nice.

[Yaboze]

Because it's a MUSIC event, not a phone event. But I hear ya....

How in the world could they not even address the 3G issue. The words 3G never even came out of their mouth - dissapointing isn't even the word, it's a damn shame in my opinion, and I don't need to wait till Friday to judge the update to say that. As a company holding such a major press event it's your RESPONSIBILITY to address your clients' issues/concerns - at the very least they could have addressed the "2%" of their client base with faulty hardware! This is just bad for business and low class. To only add salt to wound they just had to throw in the whole bid about their "new features" too just to get more exposure. All they care about is selling, selling, and selling more. This wasn't about their customers, it was about selling a new product and making more money - good going Apple, you're very quickly losing any little faith I had in you. Where's the good competition already? Cause the lack of it is really making Apple way too lazy for my liking. Here's to hoping the Android phones and Nokia Tube can bring some class and customer care back to the marketshare.

[nick9191]

Nope it was exactly what I expected. New iPods, iTunes 8, and the 2.1 firmware. The only thing that made me laugh was the storage reduction of the iPod classic.

[TuckBodi]

How in the world could they not even address the 3G issue.

Because it's an AT$T issue?! Be real, it's a network issue.

I have a 1st gen iPhone and almost to the day the 3g phone came out my bars in my house went from 3 bars to 1 bar and lots of dropped calls and delayed voice mail. AT$T pretends it's not an issue but they continue to put up those damn signs saying "More Bars in More Places." I'm starting to think they're referring to liquor establishments!

[Alloye]

No disappointment here. The event was as expected. Actually, NBC's return was a nice surprise.

[Trajectory]

i'm trying to remember the last time i was truely excited about an apple 'event'...

The have only been 3 in the past few years:

1. OS X
2. Intel Chipset
3. iPhone

[i0Nic]

It met my expectations, but when I found out about the iPhone getting screwed over with no headphone and nike+ compatibility my massive disappointment cannot be overcome.

[TEG]

Because it's an AT$T issue?! Be real, it's a network issue.

I have a 1st gen iPhone and almost to the day the 3g phone came out my bars in my house went from 3 bars to 1 bar and lots of dropped calls and delayed voice mail. AT$T pretends it's not an issue but they continue to put up those damn signs saying "More Bars in More Places." I'm starting to think they're referring to liquor establishments!

The 3G problems were fixed in 2.0.2, that is why people in rural 3G areas have no problems, in urban areas, idiots have refused to upgrade to 2.0.2, or they have jailborked using 2.0.1 as a template. Upgrading to 2.1 will fix most of the 3G and other iPhone issues.

TEG

[Nicolecat]

Okay, yeah...I saw the part about the iphone update being available for free to iphone users...and did a double take.

It better d@mn well be free. :D
(I love my iphone...and wouldn't get anything else in it's place now. But if you advertise something as being a certain way and then release it subpar...there better be some refunding/updates/exchanges to make it right)

The ipods are cool, yes...ipods will always be cool.
but, where are the white ones? :p

[ntrigue]

This is ridiculous! Today was a terrific event with many exciting features. What'd you expect? Apple to do your laundry?!

[TuckBodi]

The 3G problems were fixed in 2.0.2, that is why people in rural 3G areas have no problems, in urban areas, idiots have refused to upgrade to 2.0.2, or they have jailborked using 2.0.1 as a template. Upgrading to 2.1 will fix most of the 3G and other iPhone issues.

TEG

And I'm hoping 2.1 fixes my sluggish screens. I'm tired of waiting 5 sec for my Contacts to come up. 'Bout ready to downgrade back to 1.1.4.

[afireintonto]

friday!!!:[:mad:

[whiteshadoww]

That sucked big time. Where is the cut and paste? MMS? GPS? I NEED GPS. Apple fans get your head out of your colective arses and try to be objective. I don't want to hear "if you have low expectations then you are always happy", I'm not Danish!

I love the iPhone but I need more - I need GPS.

[Trajectory]

This is ridiculous! Today was a terrific event with many exciting features. What'd you expect? Apple to do your laundry?!

Yes! With 4 different spin cycles, too!

[Evev12]

This is ridiculous! Today was a terrific event with many exciting features. What'd you expect? Apple to do your laundry?!

I don't know whether you're being serious or sarcastic - the opinions here seem to be STRONGLY divided. I'm gonna have to guess sarcastic though.

[ogdogg]

No nike+ for the iPhone.
No 2.1 secret feature details.
No 2.1 (until Friday).

I was expecting these 3 things to happen (or at least 2 out of 3). Since they didn't, I'm a bit upset. :(

[luckygyrl83]

It was all about the music items, which makes complete sence. Even the huge ****** sheet with the dancing guyshould have told ya that.

[Evev12]

friday!!!:[:mad:

And I bet you'll have that same look on your face friday.

[deimos256]

As long as certain sounds stop mysteriously disappearing (ie text, lock unlock) Ill call 2.1 a success

[daneoni]

I wont say i was disappointed, i've experienced a few keynotes now and i know what to expect: Not much. Its just what you'd expect given their history which is iPod refresh in time for the holiday season

[buccsmf1]

what the hell were you people expecting? The event went exactly how we all (at least anyone that has any grasp on reality) thought it would go. New ipod touch, new ipod nano, revamped ipod classic line, 2.1 software, new itunes.....

[Trajectory]

I can't wait until Friday so I can complain about the 2.1 update. woo hoo.

[Geckotek]

what the hell were you people expecting? The event went exactly how we all (at least anyone that has any grasp on reality) thought it would go. New ipod touch, new ipod nano, revamped ipod classic line, 2.1 software, new itunes.....

I was expecting/hoping for:

1) Improvements to GPS and possibly the release of a real GPS app (this had been discussed a while back that Apple was working on 2.1 and it would have improvements in GPS)
2) The ability to connect a Nike+ dongle......seems so basic...why wasn't this incorporated when the 3G was first released??? It doesn't matter if you are under the opinion that the iPhone is or is not the best product for this function, the functionality should be a bit of code since the standard iPod sync port is already present. It's a simple function that would make a lot of Apple customers happy.

Edit: Oh, and I wasn't expecting the headphones, but I am in the market for a new pair that have a mic and controls for my iPhone. Why in the world would Apple make a product that matches so perfectly with one of their top products but not make it work with that product?!?!?!?

[gceo]

To be fair, everything else that was rumoured came true.

Huh? Where is the "secret functionality" or new features in 2.1?

[cenetti]

Huh? Where is the "secret functionality" or new features in 2.1?

bug fixes.....thats your "secret functionality"
:D:D

[daneoni]

Huh? Where is the "secret functionality" or new features in 2.1?

Musical Genius support and probably the Shake/shuffle feature

[aross99]

Pretty much exactly what I was expecting. I did think the iPhone 2.1 update would be out today, but I can certainly wait a couple of days.

Nice update to the nano and the touch. Camera would have been nice for touch users, but Apple seems to be drawing the line there...

Dropping the 160GB classic was a bit of a surprise, but maybe they will add a new model with that new Toshiba 240GB drive that was announced today.

Nice to see NBC back. Still kind of bugs me to pay for shows I missed on TV and only throw them away after, but that never stopped me before. It's worth the $1.99/$2.99 to see them on the Apple TV. Watching them on the web stinks.

Everyone who was upset, seems to have thought this was more than a music event. No iPhone or computer updates scheduled for today...

[Nicolecat]

That sucked big time. Where is the cut and paste? MMS? GPS? I NEED GPS. Apple fans get your head out of your colective arses and try to be objective. I don't want to hear "if you have low expectations then you are always happy", I'm not Danish!

I love the iPhone but I need more - I need GPS.

REAL GPS...
(Not Google Maps)
.
.
.
.
.
agreed.

[crsd36]

Many are frustrated at the fact that Apple seems to have screwed over the iPhone owners to bump sales for iPod Touches. While these new features would've been nice features for the current iPhone owners...it is hard to be dissappointed in this event (what happened was exactly what most expected).

On the other hand, those who are frustrated have every right to show discontent with the company in general. Hopefully if Apple wants to continue to differentiate its products then the iPhone should get new features/upgrades next time.

[theBB]

Many are frustrated at the fact that Apple seems to have screwed over the iPhone owners to bump sales for iPod Touches. While these new features would've been nice features for the current iPhone owners...
Which features? I am pretty sure the genius thing will come with 2.1 update on Friday. In any case, I don't know if it is such a big deal. The volume control buttons already exist in iPhone. It has microphone already. The chrome back? Yeah, somebody is screwed all right...

[Insulin Junkie]

It didn't disappoint me because I wasn't counting or doting on anything beforehand. I suppose that's because I'm not in the market for iPods at the moment, so my interest in the event was minor. I love the iTunes update though. :)

[BongoBanger]

what the hell were you people expecting? The event went exactly how we all (at least anyone that has any grasp on reality) thought it would go. New ipod touch, new ipod nano, revamped ipod classic line, 2.1 software, new itunes.....

Which totally justified Apple hyping the even and telling the press it would be "something big".

Or not.

[theBB]

REAL GPS...
(Not Google Maps)
.
.
.
.
.
agreed.
I am not sure how I feel about a turn by turn GPS unless it can still function while playing music or talking on the phone through a hands-free headset. (I am not sure iPhone hardware is capable.) Otherwise, a dedicated GPS unit sounds much better and they are not that expensive anyways.

I was expecting a GPS for Touch, but maybe next year...

[crsd36]

Which features? I am pretty sure the genius thing will come with 2.1 update on Friday. In any case, I don't know if it is such a big deal. The volume control buttons already exist in iPhone. It has microphone already. The chrome back? Yeah, somebody is screwed all right...

Integrated Nike+? New headphones? Not saying these are deal-breakers by any means, it's just the idea that both products are basically the same and one gets hardware upgrades, and the other gets a software upgrade for free. If I owned a Touch I would be frustrated too...

[cristo]

That sucked big time. Where is the cut and paste? MMS? GPS? I NEED GPS. Apple fans get your head out of your colective arses and try to be objective. I don't want to hear "if you have low expectations then you are always happy", I'm not Danish!

I love the iPhone but I need more - I need GPS.

How can you need GPS? If you did, then surely you would have bought a GPS device as well or instead of an iPhone?! :confused:

[milani]

How in the world could they not even address the 3G issue. The words 3G never even came out of their mouth - dissapointing isn't even the word, it's a damn shame in my opinion, and I don't need to wait till Friday to judge the update to say that. As a company holding such a major press event it's your RESPONSIBILITY to address your clients' issues/concerns - at the very least they could have addressed the "2%" of their client base with faulty hardware! This is just bad for business and low class. To only add salt to wound they just had to throw in the whole bid about their "new features" too just to get more exposure. All they care about is selling, selling, and selling more. This wasn't about their customers, it was about selling a new product and making more money - good going Apple, you're very quickly losing any little faith I had in you. Where's the good competition already? Cause the lack of it is really making Apple way too lazy for my liking. Here's to hoping the Android phones and Nokia Tube can bring some class and customer care back to the marketshare.

Probably because, as has been stated many times I'm sure, 3G issues don't seem to have anything to do with the iPhone at this point. After multiple tests, it seems to be completely a network issue. What you should be saying is how on earth you keep getting phone bills from AT&T charging you a ton of money for a cellular service that is defective.

Oh and as for turn by turn directions, if you can't figure out where you're going with cellular/wi-fi triangulation and Google maps, then you're hopeless and a funny voice telling you left or right isn't going to help you either.

[CandyShop]

This event was a joke. There was nothing revolutionary introduced today. Apple has set the bar high for themselves by introducing revolutionary products at there events lately. By holding an event just to introduce these modified products, they are falling under the expectations that they have earned from their prior earth-shattering announcements. They should have kept this low key, and people would be pleasantly surprised at the announcements instead of upset. There was no zing at the end, no wow factor.

[bluenoise]

I am neither excited nor disappointed, but I am wondering what makes this Friday's version 2.1 instead of 2.0.3. If it's just bug fixes as stated, it shouldn't get a x.1 version number. If it adds new features, why weren't they described?

[mavis]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone 3G (16GB, 2.0.2 JB'd): Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_0_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5C1 Safari/525.20)

what the hell were you people expecting? The event went exactly how we all (at least anyone that has any grasp on reality) thought it would go. New ipod touch, new ipod nano, revamped ipod classic line, 2.1 software, new itunes.....

Which totally justified Apple hyping the even and telling the press it would be "something big".

Or not.

Exactly. It's one thing to have nothing significant to say, and quite another to implore the press to be there knowing full well you have nothing significant to say.

But wait, he did say that 2.1 would have bug fixes and that apps would no longer crash. For many people, I guess that is "something big" ... ;)

[QCassidy352]

Blimey people are never happy on here about what happens. Just count it as more and a lot better then before. And don't browse these forums if you're only going to be disappointed. Because you always will be if you look at all rumors on here!!

I've been around here long enough to expect these whiners after EVERY SINGLE EVENT, but it does get annoying, nonetheless.

[neesh0]

I didnt expect those dang headphones not to be compatible with iphone!

[ttech10]

do you agree?

Question... what did you expect?

iTunes subscriptions? Size upgraded iPhone? AppleTV with DVR?

If you were like a lot and believed those would happen... then the reason for you being disappointed is your fault.

EDIT: Also, the fact that you're posting this in te iPhone section when it's called "Let's Rock" (implying MUSIC & IPODS) confirms, for me, that you expected this thing to be something about iPhone's... which it clearly wasn't. This event was for music, which means iPod and iTunes, which they showed off some good stuff... at least for people who knew the show wasn't for MacBooks, iPhone's or AppleTV.

[StingerT125]

Didn't really disappoint me, from the rumors here is was what I was expecting.

I wonder if that 120GB drive in the updated iPod classic will make it into the next MacBook Air update.

[Scallywag]

REAL GPS...
(Not Google Maps)
.
.
.
.
.
agreed.

I believe there is an issue in which the battery will stop charging when plugged into the power source in a car while GPS is running. The phone autmatically stops charging when it gets too hot, and using GPS while charging does just that, reducing the battery life to a few hours, thereby making the function semi-usless in many real-life situations.

Perhaps the so-called better power management of 2.1 will fix this issue.

[macfan881]

ok lemme ask you why you guys think this sucks i mean do you guys think there was gonna be macbook? or adding more stuff that makes the ipod touch a iphone? i mean first off this was stated from the begining that this was a ipod event Second if apple puts more features that resemble the iphone its obviously going to cut into iphone sales wich apple wont do since the iphone is selling like hot cakes so please explain to me why you think this sucked?

[Chandler Adaway]

I bet there was some pissed people when they found out that the classic dropped 40g's.

I REALLY wish that the back of the iPod Touch would have been made in plastic.

I guess they have to make them [iPhone and iPod Touch] different some how, though, the price is higher on the iPod Touch, so they should at least have a back to it that doesn't scratch as much.

By the way, I was happy with the release.
I think Apple released some cool products!
I think I'll be getting a red Nano.

[macfan881]

oh and guys for all you Whining about 2.1 its out and i just updated it

[Me1000]

This happens ALL THE TIME!

The rumors hype everything up, there is no way Apple could have put on a show that would have blown away everyone.

After every even all you hear is how disappointing it was! ugh! :rolleyes:

[soLoredd]

If 2.1 comes Friday and we still see the same stupid issues that haven't been fixed, then yes, it will be a let down. I'll reserve my judgement until then.

The iTunes 8 thing is bogus. It's not a revamped version at all, rather a new added feature. That was BS.

[ryanwarsaw]

Question... what did you expect?

iTunes subscriptions? Size upgraded iPhone? AppleTV with DVR?

If you were like a lot and believed those would happen... then the reason for you being disappointed is your fault.

EDIT: Also, the fact that you're posting this in te iPhone section when it's called "Let's Rock" (implying MUSIC & IPODS) confirms, for me, that you expected this thing to be something about iPhone's... which it clearly wasn't. This event was for music, which means iPod and iTunes, which they showed off some good stuff... at least for people who knew the show wasn't for MacBooks, iPhone's or AppleTV.

Unless I am mistaken Jobs himself called the iPhone " the greatest iPod Apple has ever made" Evidently it isn't the "funnest" Ipod. So why are people saying the iPhone has nothing to do with IPods? There is a little app on the thing called iPod.

They earphone not working with the phone is retarded. Though that's $79 I don't spend.

[BongoBanger]

This happens ALL THE TIME!

The rumors hype everything up, there is no way Apple could have put on a show that would have blown away everyone.

After every even all you hear is how disappointing it was! ugh! :rolleyes:

Yeah? And who actually hyped it up? Apple; that's who.

[LinMac]

Nope. It was exactly what was expected, plus a few things we were not expecting.

TEG

I suppose the proper thing to say is +1?

I wasn't disappointed, but I am getting tired of Apple's schedule of updating their computers with newer chipsets. These announcements are all fine and good, but I can't say that I know many people that were waiting for Apple to refresh the iPod Touch line even though I know there are some somewhere.

People expect a lot from Apple and we're impatient. Refresh already damnit! :D

[alFR]

How in the world could they not even address the 3G issue. The words 3G never even came out of their mouth - dissapointing isn't even the word, it's a damn shame in my opinion, and I don't need to wait till Friday to judge the update to say that. As a company holding such a major press event it's your RESPONSIBILITY to address your clients' issues/concerns - at the very least they could have addressed the "2%" of their client base with faulty hardware!

They did, he said the 2.1. update would fix/reduce dropped calls.

All they care about is selling, selling, and selling more.

Business wants to sell products!! More at 10!!!

Here's to hoping the Android phones and Nokia Tube can bring some class and customer care back to the marketshare.

Hahaha, right. Let us know how that Android handset works out for you, presuming MacRumors still exists when they eventually get to market.

That sucked big time. Where is the cut and paste? MMS? GPS? I NEED GPS.

If turn-by-turn GPS is a deal-breaking feature for you, why did you buy an iPhone when you (presumably) knew it didn't have it and there was no guarantee it ever would?

Huh? Where is the "secret functionality" or new features in 2.1?

Steve did mention "other improvements in functionality" when talking about 2.1: I'd imagine that the update will include all the iPod app changes that they demoed for the Touch, for example. Maybe there will be other stuff too, we'll just have to wait and see.

Many are frustrated at the fact that Apple seems to have screwed over the iPhone owners to bump sales for iPod Touches.

That would presumably be the same people who have been complaining since the launch of the iPhone that the Touch was overpriced and under-featured compared to the iPhone. Just shows you can't please everyone, I suppose.

But wait, he did say that 2.1 would have bug fixes and that apps would no longer crash. For many people, I guess that is "something big" ... ;)

Well, as one of the biggest complainers on here about bugs in 2.0.2, I'd have thought that bug fixes would be a big deal to you. :)

[ViPa]

Why am i disappointed, you ask? although this event wasn't focused around the iPhone, Jobs clearly announced what the iPhone's 2.1 software would have: "bug fixes"..i would rather have had him not mention anything about the iPhone so that there would still be some HOPE that there would be new, exciting features for us iPhone users..we now KNOW theres nothing NEW in the update. Theres NOTHING to be souped about for the new firmware update, and THAT, my friends, is the reason i am disappointed.