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coopdog
Jan 18, 2004, 11:44 PM
How stupid can you get?!
Look at this video! (Need WMA player)

VIDEO (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/bottlebomb.html)

The reaction happens so fast once it starts! I can't imagine getting almost vaporized chlorine everywhere on me including the eyes. :eek: I love that, right before one of the kids says that it isn't dangerous. :p

With dryice bombs it normaly takes a few min to work up enough pressure to blow up a bottle that size.

I thought I would put this here because it is kindof "news."

revenuee
Jan 18, 2004, 11:52 PM
would that be enough to blow his arm off?

i watched it twice

ExoticFish
Jan 19, 2004, 12:27 AM
wow oh wow oh WOW was that really dumb of those kids. i was thinking the same thing revenuee... what happened to that poor kid???

revenuee
Jan 19, 2004, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by ExoticFish
wow oh wow oh WOW was that really dumb of those kids. i was thinking the same thing revenuee... what happened to that poor kid???

can't find anything on the site about what happened...

they would of been fine had they not shook it i guess ... oh well thats what happens when you do something and you don't know what your doing

eyelikeart
Jan 19, 2004, 12:54 AM
This isn't much of a current event, but damn is it stupid! :rolleyes:

I guarantee that kid had some sorta chemical burn or something from that explosion.

I had some friends back in high school who used to do the same thing. They didn't shake it up though, but let it fester inside the bottle & explode on its own.

virividox
Jan 19, 2004, 02:12 AM
this is insane!!!

Counterfit
Jan 19, 2004, 03:09 AM
I bet he won't be wanking for a while :rolleyes: And the Darwin Award goes to......

ThomasJefferson
Jan 19, 2004, 07:48 AM
And the process of natural selection continues...

Mr. Anderson
Jan 19, 2004, 08:26 AM
Where'd they get the chlorine? Pool supply?

What idiots :rolleyes:

You can even make a bottle bomb from baking soda and vinegar - much safer too.

We used to have rockets that were powered by vinegar and baking soda....good stuff!

D

Sun Baked
Jan 19, 2004, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by ThomasJefferson
And the process of natural selection continues... Yes, that does look as dangerous as handing a lighter to a redneck at the local bean-n-beer festival.

wdlove
Jan 19, 2004, 11:34 AM
The immaturity of youth and the need for experimentation. They always have that feeling of invinceability. Still not a smart move! Just glad that no one was hurt.

Does anyone know if the video if avaiable anywhere else for those that don't have WMA? Or should I just leave it to my imagination.

Counterfit
Jan 19, 2004, 02:27 PM
I'm just kind of glad it ends after the explosion. I don't feel like seeing what the end of that kids arm must look like now...

MrMacMan
Jan 19, 2004, 02:30 PM
I wanted to say repost... but I couldn't believe that this hasn't been posted before...

I mean its been on every other Forum for weeks...

Ah well.

Seen it, and its good.

:D

jer2665
Jan 19, 2004, 02:56 PM
after watching this video, the first thing that comes to mind is one of my favorite quotes i saw on bash.org. the site is down now, so i can't find it exactly, but it basically said "stupudity is a huge problem, i'm not saying there should be capital punishment for being stupid, but just take off all the safety labels and let it sort itself out." or something to that extent

pncc
Jan 19, 2004, 03:11 PM
What actually happened is that the dry pool chemical, Calcium hypochlorite (CaCl2O2) was mixed with some hard alcohol like vodka. It was the WATER in the alcohol (booze is at best 40% alcohol, the rest is water) that reacted with the chlorine. Calcium hypochlorite is highly reactive to water producing chlorine gas and oxygen gas. The explosion was caused by the rapid production of chlorine and oxygen gases increasing pressure on the walls of the bottle until it violently ruptured.

CaCl2O2 + H2O ->> Ca2+-ion + Cl2-gas + O2-gas

Based on the video I would guess the kids had about 50grams of dry chemical. That is about 1/2 mole of CaCL2O2. If all the chemical reacted, it would produce a full mole of gas or 22 liters. No wonder it ruptured a 1 liter bottle.

The kid probably didn't lose his arm, but he might have lost his thumb and a few fingers. He also probably had chemical burns all over his face and body.

NEVER NEVER NEVER allow pool chemicals to get slightly wet. Keep them in a totally dry location when stored.

ALWAYS add pool chemicals to large amounts of water–like add the dry directly to the pool.

ExoticFish
Jan 19, 2004, 03:14 PM
looking at the video it looked like they used rubbing alchohol which is noramally 70% i think.

coopdog
Jan 19, 2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by pncc
What actually happened is that the dry pool chemical, Calcium hypochlorite (CaCl2O2) was mixed with some hard alcohol like vodka. It was the WATER in the alcohol (booze is at best 40% alcohol, the rest is water) that reacted with the chlorine. Calcium hypochlorite is highly reactive to water producing chlorine gas and oxygen gas. The explosion was caused by the rapid production of chlorine and oxygen gases increasing pressure on the walls of the bottle until it violently ruptured.

CaCl2O2 + H2O ->> Ca2+-ion + Cl2-gas + O2-gas

Based on the video I would guess the kids had about 50grams of dry chemical. That is about 1/2 mole of CaCL2O2. If all the chemical reacted, it would produce a full mole of gas or 22 liters. No wonder it ruptured a 1 liter bottle.

The kid probably didn't lose his arm, but he might have lost his thumb and a few fingers. He also probably had chemical burns all over his face and body.

NEVER NEVER NEVER allow pool chemicals to get slightly wet. Keep them in a totally dry location when stored.

ALWAYS add pool chemicals to large amounts of water–like add the dry directly to the pool.


Nice chem work there. I'm in chemistry now. Yes, I thought that because chlorine is an oxidizor it wouldn't react hardly at all with pure alcohol but since they were using regular 70% isopropyl (I would think) it reacted with the 30% water.

This method of making a bottle bomb is totaly stupid and pointless. Just use dryice and water. It looks cooler, and if you are near it when it explodes all you get is some water vapor on you.

And if you want to wreck someones car or house just use paint rather than water. :D

ExoticFish
Jan 19, 2004, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by coopdog
And if you want to wreck someones car or house just use paint rather than water. :D

i'll have to keep that in mind... hahaha :D

coopdog
Jan 19, 2004, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by ExoticFish
i'll have to keep that in mind... hahaha :D

I have heard of people using the big cans that the paint comes in then just putting in some peices of dry ice in and hammering on the lid. That would be good for lots of paint. But a bottle would just put a nice red mist over everything. :D Oh man that would suck.

Nicest things about dry ice bombs are that it makes a HUGE noise, better than an M80 and they more legal than firecrackers. I guess the only thing you could get into problems with is a noise complaint. :rolleyes:

Don't take my word for it though. ;)

Counterfit
Jan 19, 2004, 10:40 PM
Heh, that reminds me of a New Years prank (hack by their terms) by a couple MIT students. They hurled a chunk of sodium (or was it calcium...) into the Charles River :D

revenuee
Jan 19, 2004, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Counterfit
Heh, that reminds me of a New Years prank (hack by their terms) by a couple MIT students. They hurled a chunk of sodium (or was it calcium...) into the Charles River :D

If i remember my chemistry right ... sodium would start flaming, and calcium would start fizz. -- if that helps you remember :)

Counterfit
Jan 20, 2004, 12:01 AM
Which one would explode/make a big boom. Or maybe it was sodium....

revenuee
Jan 20, 2004, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by Counterfit
Which one would explode/make a big boom. Or maybe it was sodium....

Calcium dropped into a container of water would probably have similar effects on the bottle that the chlorine and alcohol did. Essentially just a pressure bomb. so if it was enclosed it would boom - but i guess if they threw blocks into the river then they weren't enclosed.

Sodium makes a very violent reaction in water, flames and such

Chappers
Jan 20, 2004, 08:55 AM
Its on at www.stupidvideos.com and you can select it in Quicktime (wmv being default). Of course there are lots of other stupid vids on this site. I work in a biochemistry lab so I showed my boss, thats only the second time I've heard him use the F word!!!

I downloaded it (from above link) and tried to play it on windows media player and it said "unrecognised format" or words to that effect. What gives?

JesseJames
Jan 20, 2004, 01:31 PM
Well, kids will be kids. They wanna see stuff go kaboom.
I'm surprised I made it to my current age in one piece.
But I just messed with fireworks. Not homemade chemical reactions. Ever see what an M-80 does to a mailbox? Heheheh.

patrick0brien
Jan 20, 2004, 02:56 PM
-Chappers

Damn near wet my pants! That is some funny/sad stuff!

I've got to remember not to watch this sh- at work...

MacBandit
Jan 20, 2004, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by patrick0brien
-Chappers

Damn near wet my pants! That is some funny/sad stuff!

I've got to remember not to watch this sh- at work...

When are you not at work?

:p

patrick0brien
Jan 20, 2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
When are you not at work?

:p

-MacBandit

Yknow, that's a really good point.

Answer: When I'm sleeping.

But this project is an extreme example. Beleive me, I don't want to work 20 hours a day forever especially if I can only bill 8 a day.

MacBandit
Jan 20, 2004, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by patrick0brien
........But this project is an extreme example. Beleive me, I don't want to work 20 hours a day forever especially if I can only bill 8 a day.

Ouch. That's not good. If you work 20 you should get paid 20 that way you can afford to take some time off when you are done.

topicolo
Jan 20, 2004, 03:26 PM
LOL. Reminds me of the good ol' days back in high school when my chemistry teacher did the dry ice and water in a bottle demo and had the bottle explode in his hands. The explosion sounded like a gunshot and the principal ran into the field we were in to see what was happening.
As for our teacher, the shockwave from the explosion went through his hand and ruptured blood vessels on the other side but it was healed within a couple of weeks. His ears were ringing for the rest of the day :D.

Believe it or not, even 3rd year biochemistry students do stupid stuff like this. Just last week, one of my friends got a bottle of potassium (about 200g), got really drunk and emptied the bottle into the snow. The K+ reacted immediately with the water in the snow, heating up and exploding in his face. A small chunk hit him right between the eyes and made a nice, red burn mark that I'm still laughing at him for :).

Gyroscope
Jan 21, 2004, 12:31 AM
Never mix heroin with speed. Never mix pain killers with hard spirits. Dumb heh.

Try to avoid mixing Mac's and windoze into same network. Always headache for me.

patrick0brien
Jan 21, 2004, 12:37 AM
Never mix Beer and Opium - could lead to narcoleptic bedwetting.

Counterfit
Jan 21, 2004, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by topicolo
Believe it or not, even 3rd year biochemistry students do stupid stuff like this. Just last week, one of my friends got a bottle of potassium (about 200g), got really drunk and emptied the bottle into the snow. The K+ reacted immediately with the water in the snow, heating up and exploding in his face. A small chunk hit him right between the eyes and made a nice, red burn mark that I'm still laughing at him for :). That's what the MIT guys used!

Sun Baked
Jan 21, 2004, 08:48 AM
Flaming Frathouse Cocktail

2003 Reader Submission
Pending Acceptance

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2003/12/15/two_mit_students_experiment_goes_up_in_flames/

HONORABLE MENTION (Creative Writing)

Boston police responded to a fire report at the Tau Epsilon Phi fraternity house on Commonwealth Avenue Saturday night, and discovered that sometimes alcohol is a factor in injuries in more ways than one...

Two MIT students who had obviously consumed their own fair share decided to test the chemical properties of another kind of alcohol.

With one of their frat-mates looking on, they filled an empty tin can with rubbing alcohol, and proceeded to ignite said solution. They sat and watched the container, mesmerized by the flickering blue flames. Yet, in spite of their being intelligent enough to be students at MIT, they were so enraptured with watching their experiement that they forgot the facts that any first-year science student (or anyone with a little common sense) should know:

- Alcohol fires are extremely hot - Tin is an excellent conductor of heat - Alcohol vapour is an extremely explosive substance

It was only a matter of time before the temperature of the entire can exceeded 82.4 degrees celsius (the boiling point of rubbing alcohol) and the inevitable explosion ensued.

Jesse Lacika, 21, of Boston and Jose Soitren, 18, of Cambridge were listed in good and fair condition respectively at Massachusetts General Hospital the following day, having suffered several first-and second-degree burns to their legs, arms, and chests.

This will hopefully be taken into consideration by MIT before they decide whether or not to allow this braintrust to actually use their science skills in a real-world job.

Submitted on 12/15/2003

Submitted by: Glenn Anderson
Reference: Boston.com - Dec. 15,2003

topicolo
Jan 21, 2004, 06:20 PM
lol. just goes to show ya, no matter how damn smarter than everybody else you are, alcohol is the great equalizer.

"ahhh alcohol, the cause and solution to all of life's problems" --Homer Simpson

Dragonfly
Mar 30, 2004, 02:20 PM
Glad I toke notice of the boys in that little movie...

it convinced me of thinking twice before doing it...

well...
thinking twice worked, blew it all up without a single scratch:

the trick??/
put the bottle down on a stable surface,
first put the chlorine in
put the alcohol in
close the bottle (carefull!!!)
next take a distance
than poke the bottle with a long stick or something
if the bottle falls...
BOOM

take some notice:
DO NOT USE a glass bottle...
the pieces will penetrate allmost everything

DO NOT fuse to much fluid

be sure you want to do it
it is at your one risk
don't held me responsible

THINK BEFORE ACT

be carefull and have fun...

I had a hell of a explosion,
did fill up the bottle half... :P
not a good idea I must say

patrick0brien
Mar 30, 2004, 02:52 PM
Glad I toke notice of the boys in that little movie...

-Dragonfly

I still want to know if that kid still has a hand.

krimson
Mar 30, 2004, 04:15 PM
i thought bleach and ammonia was fun, this is by far more interesting. :rolleyes:

Dr. Zauis
Mar 30, 2004, 07:17 PM
If i remember my chemistry right ... sodium would start flaming, and calcium would start fizz. -- if that helps you remember :)
If I remember my chemistry right the sodium would cause the Hydrogen to seperate from the water and the exothermic reaction would ignite the hydrogen.

I have made a couple of dry ice & water bombs.
I usually take chunk about 2 cubic inches and put it inside a .5 L water bottle with warm water. They chuck it out on my porch. It makes a very loud and deep explosion. One time when I made one I used a dry ice dust and shook up the bottle. Before I threw it outside, it exploded in my hand while I was in my kitchen.(knocked my on my back and left a ringing in my ears for about 1/2 hours.)
:) Good Times

bennetsaysargh
Mar 30, 2004, 09:32 PM
Yes, that does look as dangerous as handing a lighter to a redneck at the local bean-n-beer festival. :p :p :p :p :p

ha! im gonna be laughing at that all day!

nice though. blow stuff up is smart. especially WHEN YOU'RE HOLDING IT!! ;)

Mr. Anderson
Mar 30, 2004, 09:40 PM
weird that this thread got resurrected .... :confused:

so why didn't you video tape your attempt at the bottle bomb Dragonfly?

D

kiwi_the_iwik
Mar 31, 2004, 03:35 AM
Which one would explode/make a big boom. Or maybe it was sodium....

Try Potassium...

Opteron
Mar 31, 2004, 04:36 AM
Bahhahahahahhahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah

Opteron
Mar 31, 2004, 04:36 AM
Bahahahahahahahaha

couldn't resist.

jxyama
Mar 31, 2004, 09:00 AM
being a swimmer, i thought this was about getting drunk and going swimming... :D

evil
Mar 31, 2004, 06:43 PM
nice. i just shot snot on the screen of my emac

MrMacMan
Mar 31, 2004, 10:55 PM
weird that this thread got resurrected .... :confused:

so why didn't you video tape your attempt at the bottle bomb Dragonfly?

D

hehe yeah you need your own video now...

:p

Counterfit
Apr 2, 2004, 04:04 PM
nice. i just shot snot on the screen of my emac Thanks to you, I almost did the same to my PowerBook!! :eek: :D