Command & Conquer: Generals

[F50Ferrari]

I am very very excited for this game... I reserved it around Thanksgiving and I'm getting very impatient.. haha. I've been watching the trailers on apple.com for the game and another is supposed to be released on the 23rd. The game is supposed to ship in February!!

Is anyone else as excited as me!??

[hvfsl]

I dont have a Mac fast enough to get it, otherwise I would get it for the Mac. I have played it on the PC and it is a very good game, but I dont quite think it is as great the original C&C.

[vrapan]

i played the game on the PC as well and it is a very good game. However as said none of the consequent C&Cs were as good as the first one. Furthermore the stand alone campaigns are quite easy and you will finish it quickly. So after that online multiplayer is the only option to fully enjoy the game however just as Halo you won't be able to play with the majority (see PC) of the players because the expansion is not available for Mac and it might not be for quite a long time. I hope you enjoy it though nevertheless.

[Foxer]

Waiting with baited breath. Never played Generals on the PC, but the C&C series was my favorite before I jumped to Mac's a couple years back.

Trailers look good. I'm sure it will be fab.

[Powerbook G5]

The only games I missed when I switched were the original and Red Alert, it'd be nice to see it on the Mac when it does come.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
The only games I missed when I switched were the original and Red Alert, it'd be nice to see it on the Mac when it does come.

Same.

But too bad when it finally comes back to the mac my Machine can't run it!

Arg... stupid iMac 800!

:(

[crazzyeddie]

Red Alert runs fine in VPC, the sys requirements are so low for it. I bought it and played it in VPC for about 2 years with no problems.

Does C&C Generals have a skirmish mode? Comp vs Human?

[F50Ferrari]

command and conquer generals has a skirmish mode.. man vs. computer, there are plenty of possibilities .. you'll be satisfied

[thegeek187]

its pushed back to march now :(:(

[bbarnhart]

If I'm remembering correctly, I had the Mac C&C and my brother had the PC RedAlert. There was some hack that took the PC RedAlert game data and allowed it to be used on the Mac C&C so you could play RedAlert on the Mac.

I'll check and see because I did that and I still have his game CD.

[hvfsl]

Originally posted by bbarnhart
If I'm remembering correctly, I had the Mac C&C and my brother had the PC RedAlert. There was some hack that took the PC RedAlert game data and allowed it to be used on the Mac C&C so you could play RedAlert on the Mac.

I'll check and see because I did that and I still have his game CD.

I think I remember that as well, Red Alert used the same engine as C&C, but I dont think you could play multiplayer with Mac Red Alert. Although, I always played Red Alert in VPC on my PowerBook.

[F50Ferrari]

Well I decided to e-mail Aspyr about the release date and they said it is 'near beta-form' and should be expected late January/early February. Well, it's January 30th so I expect it soon!

[Engagebot]

dont get me wrong, i'm a mac fanboy, but i'm a PC gamer. I dont even keep up with games released for mac. case in point, i got generals over a year and a half ago...

C&C generals is still awesome though.

as long as the mac has no Generals and no Call of Duty, it doesnt matter to me that apple put a crappy video card in my powerbook.

[F50Ferrari]

Originally posted by Engagebot
dont get me wrong, i'm a mac fanboy, but i'm a PC gamer. I dont even keep up with games released for mac. case in point, i got generals over a year and a half ago...

C&C generals is still awesome though.

as long as the mac has no Generals and no Call of Duty, it doesnt matter to me that apple put a crappy video card in my powerbook.

haha i got news for you buddy...

macintosh DOES have generals and call of duty... sorry pc dude

www.aspyr.com

[Powerbook G5]

I wouldn't consider a Radeon 9600 a crappy video chip, personally. :)

[AkiraK]

Originally posted by Engagebot
case in point, i got generals over a year and a half ago...

Apparently you don't keep up with PC games releases either....C&C Generals wasn't released until Feb 10th, 2003.

...unless of course you got a hold of an extremely early alpha build...

Exaggerations like this one are one of the reasons Mac gamers take it on the chin so much. The delay isn't always as bad as people make it out to be (though to somebody really anticipating a game, even 2 months can feel like a year and a half).

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by AkiraK
Apparently you don't keep up with PC games releases either....C&C Generals wasn't released until Feb 10th, 2003.

...unless of course you got a hold of an extremely early alpha build...

Exaggerations like this one are one of the reasons Mac gamers take it on the chin so much. The delay isn't always as bad as people make it out to be (though to somebody really anticipating a game, even 2 months can feel like a year and a half).

Indeed,
But was was an unexpected port.

I never saw C&C coming back to the mac... really.

http://www.apple.com/games/trailers/generals/

Did anyone see the last trailer?

'All your base are belong to us! '

haha.

I playied this game on a PC... nice game... but Obviously U.S biased.

It made china and (middle east) Terrorist group look like baffoons.

Chinese with 'mind control' and Terrorist... arg.

Whatever awaiting the game, even if I can't run it.

[Engagebot]

so a year ago then. whatever. the point is its not out, and call of duty wont be out for mac until mid april. even if they were, you wouldnt be able to run them *well* on anything but the dual G5's. My PC ran them superbly a while ago. you just have to admit that apple is behind the times as far as gaming goes.

the video card in my >$2000 powerbook ought to be able to keep up with things, and the fact is, it doesnt really.

Even 'older' games like castle wolfenstein just barely cut it even on macs that supposedly have the goods.

why not just stick in some good stuff? an imac with a beautiful 20" screen still runs sub-par graphics chips.

i've got regular piece-built athlon box with a $150 radeon 9500 pro that runs circles around this thing. news for you: that 9600 in your mac is going to eat it when you load up generals. trust me, that game is a beast. even the 9800's turn to slide shows during the heat of the battle.

dont start talking to me about video cards until you go get yourself at least an undergrad degree in computer science. you're preaching to the wrong choir.

[nspeds]

if someone could post how to get Red Alert running on OSX without VPC (using the C&C hack) i'd be really grateful, i love the game.

[AkiraK]

Originally posted by Engagebot
so a year ago then. whatever. the point is its not out

True enough, but there's a significant difference between "over a year and a half" and just under/over a year.


and call of duty wont be out for mac until mid april.

...which shows that things are improving, at least with some titles. A four month turnaround isn't bad for a complete port, especially given that most PC developers won't let Mac developers see even portions of the code until well after a game's PC release.


even if they were, you wouldnt be able to run them *well* on anything but the dual G5's. My PC ran them superbly a while ago. you just have to admit that apple is behind the times as far as gaming goes.

And how does your PC run Halo? or Splinter Cell? How will it run Half-Life 2 (assuming it actually sees the light of day) or Doom 3? The Mac has a ways to go before it matures as a gaming machine, granted...I doubt anyone here would argue that. But the notion that PC's magically play everything perfectly out of the box is just silly. Halo all but demands a top of the line PC, and even then, runs like crap on most machines, even some high-end rigs.


the video card in my >$2000 powerbook ought to be able to keep up with things, and the fact is, it doesnt really.

That depends on what you mean by "things." The PowerBook isn't designed to be a game machine, though it would still hold court on all but the highest end PC laptops (in fact, only AlienWare makes a really serviceable gaming laptop).

As for the iMac, no one expects an eMachine to run Halo, yet you seem to expect Apple to drop top of the line components into every machine. Why did you build your own PC? Again, you shoot down claims that no one has ever made (including Apple). It's not really fair to hold a machine up to a higher standard than the one it sets for itself or that of the competition. If you want a solid consumer level Mac, the iMac is priced accordingly, and includes a host of features not even included on similarly priced PC models. If you want a dedicated game machine, buy a console.

Few people buy a Mac purely to game--people buy Macs for the overall computing experience, which is hands down far better out of the box than any PC at the same price point. Playing games is secondary. I buy Mac games whenever possible, but have a custom-built PC that I do most gaming on (though even that has begun to take a back seat to my consoles).


i've got regular piece-built athlon box with a $150 radeon 9500 pro that runs circles around this thing. news for you: that 9600 in your mac is going to eat it when you load up generals. trust me, that game is a beast. even the 9800's turn to slide shows during the heat of the battle.

First you argue that your 9500 pro runs everything superbly, then argue that even 9800's can't cut it. Which is it?


dont start talking to me about video cards until you go get yourself at least an undergrad degree in computer science. you're preaching to the wrong choir.

I'd be careful about making assumptions about the people you're talking to...you might be surprised to find out what undergrad (and grad, for that matter) degrees they hold, what fields they work in, etc.

[bbarnhart]

Originally posted by nspeds
if someone could post how to get Red Alert running on OSX without VPC (using the C&C hack) i'd be really grateful, i love the game.

OK, I've found that PC C&C game I was talking about a few messages above and what I have is C&C The Covert Operations. So, it wasn't Red Alert after all. The CD clearly states "PC CD-ROM" and on the paper insert in says "Coming Soon... C&C Red Alert". Sorry for the confusion.

[Powerbook G5]

I am also confused as to how a 9500 is supposed to run games better than a 9800.

And as far as I know, it takes a lot of praying to get games like Halo to run well on a regular AMD box like yours.

[flyfish29]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Engagebot
[B]the video card in my >$2000 powerbook ought to be able to keep up with things, and the fact is, it doesnt really.


I don't know, but do most PC laptops have video cards that perform great for games. As far as I know, most gamers don't use laptops for gaming but full on desktops! Isn't this true?

Nobody has ever said Mac gaming is perfect or the best and if they did they would be C R A Z Y! It is decent, but if you really want to game then go PC or PS2 or xBox, although I prefer PS2 due to M$ connection.

[nspeds]

PC Laptop gaming isn't really that good at all. BTW, on my PowerBook, I can run Halo on all the full settings... I don't see the big deal.

The 550 or the 667 PB's are pretty old anyways, so how can we expect brand new games to work on them?

I remember purchasing a really good PC last year, but now it has trouble playing some of the best games, it's just technology. The thing about macs is that I could probably be using a ClamShell iBook right now and not have any problems for my daily work, for Macs, it believe that our hardware takes longer to get "obsolete".

I think its possible to convert Red Alert Windows to Mac, maybe if we can use the regular C&C Mac port and rename the RA .MIX files to match the C&C mac one's then replace them, we can fool the game into playing Red Alert, I dunno... just an idea.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by nspeds
if someone could post how to get Red Alert running on OSX without VPC (using the C&C hack) i'd be really grateful, i love the game.

Indeed.

I didn't even know it could run natively on Mac Os X.

:eek:

any news? Screen Shots... this game iisss coming.

[AppleMatt]

Originally posted by Engagebot
dont start talking to me about video cards until you go get yourself at least an undergrad degree in computer science. you're preaching to the wrong choir.

:rolleyes:
You're setting yourself up to get torn to pieces by someone who's got a post-grad, coded for major games companies and now writes graphics card drivers.

Mellow out, and remember no matter how good you think you are there's always better.

AppleMatt

[MrMacMan]

Mwhaha!

Too Bad, I have you all beat!

I am the Lead Designer of ATI™.

I built the Radeon Series of Chips...

I will be taking your questions for the next... 3 minutes.

And no, No trade secrets will be give out.

and HELP, MRMaCMAN IS CRAZY! Asdasvdvasd

[Powerbook G5]

What? Maybe you've been sitting too close to your computer screen...

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
What? Maybe you've been sitting too close to your computer screen...

Um...

It was a Joke, they were fighting...

Har har har...

:rolleyes:



Anyway any news on Generals?

[MacAztec]

I have to agree that for most intense mac games, you need a highend Dual G4, or a highend G5.

I play Halo on my PC (2.66GHz P4, Radeon 9500 Pro) and it runs great. No glitches. I built the whole machine for 650$ too.

Im not saying PCs are better then macs, but when it comes to gaming, they sure are.

I haven't played one game yet that the machine cant handle. And when the time comes, I will just buy a new graphics card and a new chip for like 400$.

[mj_1903]

Can't wait for C&C on Mac. I played it on PC and it rocks. :)

[Demon]

sorry, but i've played Halo through and through... finished the game on all difficulties including the toughest one 6 times. it's the best FPS i've played, and i believe i've pretty much played them all. the dynamics and gameplay in the single person is awesome. there is no game like it so far. RTCW first person sucks in comparison. Medal of Honor? terrible, it's so linear and boring. BUT, i do admit there are better Multi player games like 1942 to name one or Unreal to name another.

but since my desktop sucks, i only get to play those at internet cafes... so Single player and Coop mode is unbeatable on HALO.

someone also mentioned Golden Eye? yes, that game is BAD ass... probably the most addictive, time wasting kick ass multiplayer game on a console.

[AkiraK]

Originally posted by Demon
Medal of Honor? terrible, it's so linear and boring.

And how is Halo less linear? Halo runs on rails, especially in the later levels, with their being not only little incentive to explore, but little room to do so.

As to the topic, I loved C&C Generals (and the Zero Hour expansion, despite some pretty obvious bugs), and can't wait to get into some multiplayer matches.

[MrMacMan]

Any news?

Its still in 'alpha' says aspyr's page... but says coming March... well march isn't too far away...


I am waiting...

someone also mentioned Golden Eye? yes, that game is BAD ass... probably the most addictive, time wasting kick ass multiplayer game on a console.

Hell yes.

I even have GameCube, yet I still pull out my N64 and play it.

Hell yes.

:D

[i have a name?]

Originally posted by MacAztec
I have to agree that for most intense mac games, you need a highend Dual G4, or a highend G5.

I play Halo on my PC (2.66GHz P4, Radeon 9500 Pro) and it runs great. No glitches. I built the whole machine for 650$ too.


i beg to differ, i play halo with graphics up all the way on my measly 800Mhz G4 imac with 32 MB graphics card and it runs perfectly, it doesnt even slow down in the parts with the flood.

[phreaker57x]

I'm really worried about the system requirements to run C&C. I just recently played Zero Hour (the expansion) on a friend's Alienware area 51-m laptop and it runs only OK. Like... its not superb and the frames sometimes drop when battles heat up. and this is on a 3 ghz 128 mb gfx machine !!.

I really do hope Aspyr does some insane magical optimizations and make it run well on the Mac.


(btw, is there a way to show the current framerate in C&C zero hour? )

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by phreaker57x
I'm really worried about the system requirements to run C&C. I just recently played Zero Hour (the expansion) on a friend's Alienware area 51-m laptop and it runs only OK. Like... its not superb and the frames sometimes drop when battles heat up. and this is on a 3 ghz 128 mb gfx machine !!.

I really do hope Aspyr does some insane magical optimizations and make it run well on the Mac.


(btw, is there a way to show the current framerate in C&C zero hour? )

Ah, they aren't gonna make magical speed increases.

I don't expect it to run on my Machine 800 iMac...

Gah, I really really want it too... :(

[digiface]

Generals does not limit the number of units in battle. Therefore, no matter what computer you have, you can turn your battle into a slideshow.

When playing a skirmish, I once had three computer opponents. So I built about 200 units! Things did slow down once I had all 200 shooting, flying, dropping bombs, ect. My friends PC has a 2.4 ghz pentium 4, 1 gig of ram and a Radeon 9600.

RTS games are different than other games because the player controls how many items there are on screen. The more units you build, the more ram you use and processing power you need.

The minimal system requirements are good for playing throught the campaign mode with reasonable speed and medium settings on the PC.

Lets hope everyone buys this game so Aspyr can afford to make the expansion. Zero Hour makes this great game incredible!

[Benjamin]

C&C will be a great game to come to mac, to bad like most mac games the pc counterparts have been released for sometime. Generals is itself a very nice game and zero hour is great. This is a step up in graphics then the original C&C and imo tons better then RA2 (which i hated the graphics).

Anyway the only thing is that Generals doesn't play into the C&C universe imo and dosn't follow the timeline, oh well. I really hope they create Twilight, if not then to bad for the "real" C&C universe to die.

[enclave]

Originally posted by Engagebot
so a year ago then. whatever. the point is its not out, and call of duty wont be out for mac until mid april. even if they were, you wouldnt be able to run them *well* on anything but the dual G5's. My PC ran them superbly a while ago. you just have to admit that apple is behind the times as far as gaming goes.

the video card in my >$2000 powerbook ought to be able to keep up with things, and the fact is, it doesnt really.

Even 'older' games like castle wolfenstein just barely cut it even on macs that supposedly have the goods.

why not just stick in some good stuff? an imac with a beautiful 20" screen still runs sub-par graphics chips.

i've got regular piece-built athlon box with a $150 radeon 9500 pro that runs circles around this thing. news for you: that 9600 in your mac is going to eat it when you load up generals. trust me, that game is a beast. even the 9800's turn to slide shows during the heat of the battle.

dont start talking to me about video cards until you go get yourself at least an undergrad degree in computer science. you're preaching to the wrong choir.

I suggest you drop out because you're not doing very well at college, that or you have no idea how a pc runs.

A 9600 video card is more than enough to run C&C generals, I have the same card on my pc and run it at 1024x960 with 4 cpu opponents and it's smooth as silk.....


get a clue man seriously... your embarrassing yourself

[AppleMatt]

Originally posted by phreaker57x
I'm really worried about the system requirements to run C&C. I just recently played Zero Hour (the expansion) on a friend's Alienware area 51-m laptop and it runs only OK. Like... its not superb and the frames sometimes drop when battles heat up. and this is on a 3 ghz 128 mb gfx machine !!.

I wouldn't worry too much at this stage, that kind of machine should have handled the game adequately. He probably has a lot of stuff running in the background, maybe some spyware, old graphics drivers and not patched the game.

A friend of mine recently swore blind his PC was in tip-top condition after I claimed it was running a lot slower than it should have been, 1 hr later I showed him he had 101 instances of spy/adware, 14 viruses and a TEMP folder that was about 400megs. He was also using drivers that were installed when he got the machine and had never used Windows Update, it runs smooth as silk now.

Aspyr usually do an excellent job with Mac games, I'm happy they took this on over another company.

AppleMatt

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by nspeds
if someone could post how to get Red Alert running on OSX without VPC (using the C&C hack) i'd be really grateful, i love the game.

you can't, simple as that, even with something like wine, you still need to emulate the x86 cpu which I think wine uses Bochs and it sucks and plus wine at this point can't compile regular win-32 apps to run with just the apis.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Benjamin
you can't, simple as that, even with something like wine, you still need to emulate the x86 cpu which I think wine uses Bochs and it sucks and plus wine at this point can't compile regular win-32 apps to run with just the apis.

I think he was talking about Old Skool Red Alert.

The one for like System 7 or 8 or something... really old anyway...


I don't know of any hack...


I hope this game comes soon!

:o

[Powerbook G5]

Red Alert was the best game, I wasted all of my best high school afternoons and evenings on that game instead of studying and attending extracurricular activities. It was so much fun with the Counter-strike and Total Annihilation expansions playing multiplayer. There was some insane strategies that my friends and I came up with, such as chronoshifting a mobile base truck right into the enemy's camp while having a war factory on hold for instant building as soon as it is in place to set up a full on point of strike from within. Then there were the transports filled with a half dozen engineers and spies to flood into all of their buildings and take over. Oh, the joys of it all.

[Ice PowerBook]

Originally posted by AppleMatt
Aspyr usually do an excellent job with Mac games, I'm happy they took this on over another company.


I'd have to strongly disagree with you there, I'm not sure if you are referring to any specific Aspyr ports that have been ported well, but my experience with Aspyr ports is painfully slow.

I can count 8 games from Aspyr that I have played, the best (and the biggest disappointment) was Return to Castle Wolfenstein. The requirements from memory were a 500Mhz machine, and on my 400Mhz PowerBook it was too slow, and on my 12" PowerBook Rev. A, it is very jumpy.

The exception to Apsyr games is the Sims and Sim City 4, although these are not processor and graphic intensive games. The intensive games consistently run a lot slower than any Windows version, or a MacSoft port for example.

[Heltik]

It is true that games tend to run better on lower specced pcs. I guess that this is because they are not so well optimised for Macintosh.

I remember playing Starcraft on a p100 PC, and I'll swear it was smoother than on my iBook 500.

But having said this, I think it may be about to change. The latest Powermacs have more than enough horse power to play even the hungriest games. Couple to this the rumours that Macs might be getting higher end graphics support, and that if they do, the OpenGL drivers you'd expect to be better than the 'consumer' Direct X drivers on the PC. I had a 3d labs card on my PC some years ago, and direct X really couldn't hack it.

I've seen games running on friends high-end pcs, and all I can say is that if us mac users are subject to a 'reality distortion field' then it's more true for pc users. Some of my friends have pcs with the latest nVidia chipsets, and up to 1.5GB ram... and at times, the game seems to freeze and chunk. So what use is it having a computer with wonderful frame rates 'most' of the time??

I recollect the Apple G5 demos (totally transparent I'm sure :))... but I recall that the G5 with its balanced and high bandwidth architecture actually provides much more consistent throughput, whereas the pc tends to jump about.. perhaps this goes some way to explaining the erratic performance I've noticed. And even if it means I have to 'suffer' a framerate of maybe 120fps on a G5 when I get one, I'd rather this than a slightly higher, but more erratic frame rate from a pc.

And talking about Red Alert... because I loved that game too :). I tried playing it on my PC recently, only to find it doesn't work in Win 2K - I used to have to play it in Dos before that because my old graphics card wasn't supported in Win 95!!. So for PC users it's Blue Screen and glitchy Red Alert, or Win 2k....

[MrMacMan]

It is true that games tend to run better on lower specced pcs. I guess that this is because they are not so well optimised for Macintosh.

I remember playing Starcraft on a p100 PC, and I'll swear it was smoother than on my iBook 500.



I have to say Blizzard made the worst 10 second job of porting their games to Mac Os X... They killed off features like Campaign editor... and of coarse the Mac versions of the game have no LAN support... :mad:

Gah, Starcraft uses 80% of my CPU when running? Why I ask?
This game is yeeearrrs old and should run with ease, but it doesn't.

[stuff about how great the G5 is]

And talking about Red Alert... because I loved that game too :). I tried playing it on my PC recently, only to find it doesn't work in Win 2K - I used to have to play it in Dos before that because my old graphics card wasn't supported in Win 95!!. So for PC users it's Blue Screen and glitchy Red Alert, or Win 2k....
I have Red Alert w/ Aftermath... great game... my friend bought it for me after I said I bought VPC 3.0 (yet it gets worse each version! :mad: )



Any news on C&C: Generals?

Its reached Beta from Alpha... alas not really any news... they still say april...

[phreaker57x]

Over in the MacNN forums (http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?threadid=198024), someone named Glenda who claims to work at Asypr Media said that they could have released the game in January if they didnt care for optimizations and bug fixing.

I think its all a matter of patience. More than likely, a game that is released on a slower cycle should have better game performance than a rushed job. ;)

[Veldek]

Well, Glenda indeed works for them, so you can trust what she said. She often goes to forums to hear what the gamers want, a fact that I really appreciate.

What really bothers me though is that the Mac version is said not to be able to network with the PC version, because of the code the PC version used. This is such bad news, that I don’t think I would buy it, because the only reason was to play it with my friends on a LAN.

[Benjamin]

Well, Glenda indeed works for them, so you can trust what she said. She often goes to forums to hear what the gamers want, a fact that I really appreciate.

What really bothers me though is that the Mac version is said not to be able to network with the PC version, because of the code the PC version used. This is such bad news, that I don’t think I would buy it, because the only reason was to play it with my friends on a LAN.

yes that is going to hurt for the sales of C&C generals for mac. it is really too bad too.

[AkiraK]

What really bothers me though is that the Mac version is said not to be able to network with the PC version, because of the code the PC version used. This is such bad news, that I don’t think I would buy it, because the only reason was to play it with my friends on a LAN.

That's tremendously bad news. Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds was the same way, and it was a tremendous disappointment not to be able to play with some of my PC-centric friends. I wonder if there's any information regarding the effect that has on sales.

[MrMacMan]

Well, Glenda indeed works for them, so you can trust what she said. She often goes to forums to hear what the gamers want, a fact that I really appreciate.

What really bothers me though is that the Mac version is said not to be able to network with the PC version, because of the code the PC version used. This is such bad news, that I don’t think I would buy it, because the only reason was to play it with my friends on a LAN.

Noooooooooo!!!!

GOD DAMNIT, ****ING KILL THE GAME WHY DON'T YOU!

GOD DAMNIT. WHY THE HELL PORT THE GAME WHEN YOU CAN'T GET THE GODDAMNED NETWORKS TO WORK TOGETHER.

:withdraws all support, aspirations and praise for Aspry's port:

You suck.


That was the WHOLE reason the killed frikken Half Life for Mac...
errrrrrrrr

[MrMacMan]

Sorry if I scared anyone off there...

I am still very pissed off that they can't make the game compatible.


Also that we are just hearing about this now.




This is what I am talking about whenever I post about crappy ass ports.

We have the best mac devolpers out there and we can't get it to work with the windows world?

What gives? You get EA or even apple to release patches that allow networkabality.

Really what gives?

[AppleMatt]

It's boils down to one of two things;

- technical issues
- legal issues

If they don't get bitten by one they get bitten by the other. Remember, they are gamers and Mac users themselves, they want their games to be network compatible.

AppleMatt

[MrMacMan]

It's boils down to one of two things;

- technical issues
- legal issues

If they don't get bitten by one they get bitten by the other. Remember, they are gamers and Mac users themselves, they want their games to be network compatible.

AppleMatt
Well EA gave aspyra full support on the legal aspect, control over the project...

But noooo...

We have no get screwed over some networking problems...



How about we get a killer game...

Like Battlefield... Get a GREAT port, optomized and everything... PLAY's with PC... and is released ON TIME... WITH A DEMO


So hard to ask?

Really people.


Great Port + network support + Demo = Killer game... ever if the game is crap.

:p