Should I jailbreak the new iTouch 2G?

[pectin232]

Seems like a lot of people are having problems after jailbreaking their new iTouch 2G. Should I do it a well or wait for a newer one with a GUI? Will Jailbreaking make the Nike application to stop working or any of the new 2G features to stop intermittently like installing new applications from the App Store? do advise. Thanks

[auggie2k]

Seems like a lot of people are having problems after jailbreaking their new iTouch 2G. Should I do it a well or wait for a newer one with a GUI? Will Jailbreaking make the Nike application to stop working or any of the new 2G features to stop intermittently like installing new applications from the App Store? do advise. Thanks

It's an iPod Touch so there will be practically no problems at all, Nike will still work and 2.1 is fine.

Here's a guide - http://www.quickpwn.com/2008/09/jailbreak-ipod-touch-21.html

[pwn247]

Seems like a lot of people are having problems after jailbreaking their new iTouch 2G. Should I do it a well or wait for a newer one with a GUI? Will Jailbreaking make the Nike application to stop working or any of the new 2G features to stop intermittently like installing new applications from the App Store? do advise. Thanks

There is no jailbreak out yet for the new 2nd Generation iPod Touches.

In fact, the team that releases the jailbreak tools just got their shipment of new 2nd Gen Touches yesterday, so it may be a little while before we see jailbreaking. I'm constantly checking the blog of their site to see how they're coming along with the new tool... http://blog.iphone-dev.org/

[BennyK]

What can you do when it is jailbroken? With the app store, do you gain anything besides playing Nintendo games? I really want to know the benefits of jailbreaking as I would try it if I knew what I would gain.

Thanks!

[HeartCooksBrain]

I was wondering the exact same thing -- should I jailbreak my 2g Touch? All I really want is a custom theme rather than apples generic theme. Must I jailbreak it to get this?

[njguyfla]

Don't do it till your warranty is about to expire.

[Jibblejab]

My Ipod Touch is full of my music, applications and films when i jailbreak it will all of those be wiped and will i have to re-install it all again?

[Muncher]

To all iPod Touch 2G owners: You can't jailbreak your ipod. Sorry, it's the truth. But there are people working on it.

If you do eventually jailbreak and iPod/iPhone, you don't lose anything. iTunes recognizes it normally and syncs all the apple stuff, whereas cydia/installer apps are not seen by iTunes and not backed up.

[andybno1]

Don't do it till your warranty is about to expire.

don;t do it till your warranty expires? ok what? if something is wrong and needs to go back you can easily restore to official firmware and oh look it's like nothing happend. So you see as long as you take it to apple with the official firmware on after jailbreaking it's still in warranty as apple are non the wiser.

but yeh cant jailbreak 2nd gen iPod anyway

[queshy]

If I owned a touch I wouldn't jailbreak. It's pretty good the way it is and hacks are always screwy.

[andybno1]

I've not come across any screwy hacks

[Wolfpup]

You can't restore it if it just completely dies like mine did. I also couldn't send it in for warranty service anyway since I couldn't wipe it first.

[hotwater10]

It Cant Be Jailbroken For The Last Time!

[kblessinggr]

Ok, just in case people still can't understand why a 2Gen can't be jailbroken : http://www.ipodtouchanswers.com/ipod-touch/jailbreaking-2nd-gen-touch/

And for those who can Jailbreak (in case you're wonder why, which people have already said dozens of times all over the net) : http://www.ipodtouchanswers.com/touch-life/what-can-be-jailbroken-how-and-why/

[kblessinggr]

If I owned a touch I wouldn't jailbreak. It's pretty good the way it is and hacks are always screwy.


Which sounds like someone who has never jailbroken :D

[Surely]

What can you do when it is jailbroken? With the app store, do you gain anything besides playing Nintendo games? I really want to know the benefits of jailbreaking as I would try it if I knew what I would gain.

Thanks!

You would gain customizable theming, status notification of emails, etc. in the status bar and on the lock screen, game emulators, an easier way to toggle settings.

I was wondering the exact same thing -- should I jailbreak my 2g Touch? All I really want is a custom theme rather than apples generic theme. Must I jailbreak it to get this?

Yes, you do need to jailbreak to gain this. However, there is no jailbreak for the 2G Touch yet.

Don't do it till your warranty is about to expire.

It has nothing to do with warranty. If you jailbreak, and you need to bring your Touch into Apple for repair, you can easily restore it back to it's unjailbroken form before you bring it in, and Apple will have no idea that it was ever jailbroken.

My Ipod Touch is full of my music, applications and films when i jailbreak it will all of those be wiped and will i have to re-install it all again?

No, you would not have to reinstall all of that. It would not affect any of your music, apps, etc.

[kblessinggr]

No, you would not have to reinstall all of that. It would not affect any of your music, apps, etc.

To go further on this.

PwnageTool method : Wipes the iPod clean, so you'd have to retransfer everything.
QuickPwn Method : Jailbreaks without affecting any of the current files.

why someone would want to use the first method is so they can customize the jailbreaking process.

[Wolfpup]

Ok, just in case people still can't understand why a 2Gen can't be jailbroken

Makes sense. Just hasn't been done probably because of the app store and that it would have to be reworked. Not enough interest in it I suppose.

I'm not a fan of Apple's closed platform with it. I don't even trust that they actually properly screen stuff, given the stuff they let through and then pull. Supposedly there are apps that pull personal data off your device-and you have no real way of knowing, no way of getting to the guts of the system, and...well I just like the PC model much, much better.

[Tallest Skil]

Makes sense. Just hasn't been done probably because of the app store and that it would have to be reworked.

Then why can the first-gen iPhone, second-gen iPhone, and first-gen iPod touch be jailbroken after software 2.0?

[kblessinggr]

Makes sense. Just hasn't been done probably because of the app store and that it would have to be reworked. Not enough interest in it I suppose.

Actually the folks doing it explained why they didn't bother, first off the hardware is different from the iphone and ipod touch. (before the 2nd gen, the chip on both the iPhone and iPod touch were identical so jailbreaking either was relatively easy once they've done it once).

The app store has nothing to do with it, other than lack of interest from a number of users would normally be queasy about modifying their iPods in the first place.

the iPhone-Dev team is more interested in getting a soft unlock done for the iPhone 3G than anything else right now.

Basically if it were possible right now, you bet someone would have already got it out a few weeks after it came out. They'll likely need to figure it out anyways, since the next iPhone will likely run off the same microprocessor as the 2nd gen iPod Touch.

[kblessinggr]

Then why can the first-gen iPhone, second-gen iPhone, and first-gen iPod touch be jailbroken after software 2.0?

Because all three devices share the same microprocessor and same firmware/software.

in terms of app store, I'm sure he was talking bout lack of interest from those who would download.

[Tallest Skil]

Because all three devices share the same microprocessor and same firmware/software.

He said the App Store was to blame for the inability to jailbreak, though. :rolleyes:

[Wolfpup]

No, I meant the combination of the app store and the new hardware. It would have meant more work than it was worth to them (plus they may have no interest in the touch).

Someone with a touch would have to be interested enough and have the technical skill to do it.

Actually this is why I think there's still room for someone-maybe Microsoft, maybe Google, maybe Palm-to come in with a modern easy to use OS that's not locked down and smack Apple around.

Microsoft has shown an amazing incompetence with their mobile OSes. Actually the mini-notebook style WinCE wasn't too bad 10+ years ago. Worked similarly to Windows 95. But the Palm OS style OS is just a joke and always has been. It's like they've got two people locked in a room working on it or something...hard to believe the same company that makes Windows XP and Vista and Office can make Windows Mobile... but maybe they've just always been banking on eventually running full blown Windows on a mobile device.

If Asus started selling a 7" tablet style PC for $250-400ish...basically just a modification of the netbook...that might work for me. Realistically it's not quite there though (and was probably over half a decade away minimum when Microsoft first started hinting at that...)

[kblessinggr]

No, I meant the combination of the app store and the new hardware. It would have meant more work than it was worth to them (plus they may have no interest in the touch).

Someone with a touch would have to be interested enough and have the technical skill to do it.

Well since jailbreaking doesn't rely on the app store (which has been available for both the iPhone and iPod touch since 2.0 came out), I don't see how the app store would impede the process any.

There's two main obsticles when trying to get a device jailbroken. The physical hardware preventions, and the firmware itself. Especially since the major player in jailbreaking (iPhone-Dev team) opt to use a non-invasive method if jailbreaking. It's a tad harder to jailbreak something while maintaining complete compatibility. (and Cydia won't feature a program that doesn't take the safe approach).

The folks at the iPhone-Dev team are plenty interested because it may be the same setup the new iPhone has. But as they said on their site, they're far more interested in getting the iPhone 3G working with other carriers.


iPod touch 2G

Currently we are not investigating the iPod touch 2G. Other people outside the Dev-Team are looking into this, but we are not at the moment. Please don’t hassle us with comments and requests about this, they’ll just be deleted and ignored. If we do look at this device it will be sometime in the New Year and we’ll inform you guys if and when we commence this work.

We would like to reiterate that this is not because -

1. We are mean
2. We are turning our back on the iPod touch community
3. We have been paid off by JFK, Princess Diana or Elvis

This is because -

1. It’s not an iPhone
2. We have been busy with the 3G unlock.
3. We have been busy with the CCC talk.
4. Only one of us has a iPod touch 2G (but we’ll see what Santa brings)
5. Our employers don’t get as excited as us about hacking expensive pretty devices
6. Unfortunately our partners, parents and pets need occasional attention too.


If App Store and lack of interest were to be blamed, then the 1st gen iPod Touch with firmware 2.0+ would not have been jailbroken. And there's already of ton of people in various places jumping up and down for a 2nd gen fix, so you can bet there's a demand for it. (funny enough some people demanding it don't even know what jailbreaking is, they just think its only a way of getting games from the app store without paying for them).

[Wolfpup]

Well since jailbreaking doesn't rely on the app store (which has been available for both the iPhone and iPod touch since 2.0 came out), I don't see how the app store would impede the process any.

It has nothing to do with the app store from a technical perspective. It removes one of the reasons people would want to take the time to hack it.

[kblessinggr]

It has nothing to do with the app store from a technical perspective. It removes one of the reasons people would want to take the time to hack it.


The geeky in nature are still going to want to 'control' their devices. And since they're not making money off this (well some of the developers are that distribute apps), I doubt that has a strong influence at all in the delay of a 2gen method. Especially since the app store was out during the 1st gen, and we've seen them successfully break each firmware release within days.

[MACINANIAC]

Your obviously new so i wanna be the 1 to tell u.



YOU CANNOT JAILBREAK THE SECOND GENERATION IPOD TOUCH IF YOU ARE NOT AN ABSOLUTE EXPERT WITH THE DEVICE...:mad:

[Jazhawk]

Ok, just in case people still can't understand why a 2Gen can't be jailbroken : http://www.ipodtouchanswers.com/ipod-touch/jailbreaking-2nd-gen-touch/

And for those who can Jailbreak (in case you're wonder why, which people have already said dozens of times all over the net) : http://www.ipodtouchanswers.com/touch-life/what-can-be-jailbroken-how-and-why/

It finally has been broken. It's a tethered break but it's broken.

edit: I neglected to post my link (http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137528). I watched my son jail break his this morning.

-Jazhawk

[kblessinggr]

It finally has been broken. It's a tethered break but it's broken.

edit: I neglected to post my link (http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137528). I watched my son jail break his this morning.

-Jazhawk


Well there's no official release from iphone-dev team yet, they said it's possible (which I noted in a later blog entry, though I haven't updated my older post yet), but its still too manual to be useful to the general public. Redsn0w is very close to completion though.

Personally I'd encourage most to just wait for an official quickpwn/pwnagetool for the 2nd gen that works the same way the tools work for the 1st gen to be on the safe side. It shouldn't take em long after they already figured it out. But its' good news indeed (might actually bring the prices down on the 1st gen some more :D lol)

[iSaygoodbye]

There is no jailbreak out yet for the new 2nd Generation iPod Touches.

In fact, the team that releases the jailbreak tools just got their shipment of new 2nd Gen Touches yesterday, so it may be a little while before we see jailbreaking. I'm constantly checking the blog of their site to see how they're coming along with the new tool... http://blog.iphone-dev.org/

i dont know where you get your info

[branjosef]

You can do it!!!! :eek:

[quick5pnt0]

if you have to ask then you probably shouldn't do it. Wait for the untethered.

[Muncher]

if you have to ask then you probably shouldn't do it. Wait for the untethered.

Agreed. It's scary stuff, you have a bricked iPod for a while. If you can't put your iPod into DFU, or you use the rslite instructions in the wrong order...

[alchemistmuffin]

Before I begin, STOP CALLING IT iTouch! IT'S FIRKIN CHILDISH, AND ANNOYS ME TO DEATH! TYPE IT iPod touch, NO EXCEPTION!

Now, about the jailbreak....

You can un-do the jailbreak any time by doing a full software restore, so if your iPod touch is broken, you can re-do the firmware.

So, my suggestion, if you want even more freedom on your iPod touch, go ahead!

(note: 2nd gen jailbreak is still in beta, and unstable. Wait till the final release, before Apple pulls another software update)