iPod Touch 2g Charging questions [Archive]

SCOSCHE

Sep 16, 2008, 04:47 PM

Solutions are on the way for docking stations, but for now here is the in car version for iPod integration systems that use Firewire charging voltage.

www.scosche.com/passport

quick5pnt0

Sep 16, 2008, 06:14 PM

Where can we buy the passport? I looked online but didn't come up with anything.

gan6660

Sep 16, 2008, 07:50 PM

Where can we buy the passport? I looked online but didn't come up with anything.

Whats a passport?

quick5pnt0

Sep 16, 2008, 08:44 PM

Whats a passport?

The thing linked to above is called the Scosche Passport.

NizryErrat

Sep 17, 2008, 04:01 AM

First post on these forums, but I thought people might want to know this.

I was shocked to read this morning about the problems people are having with charging the 2nd generation iPod touch through the BOSE Sound Dock. I bought the BOSE a couple of months ago, and intend to buy a Touch next week. :(

I called BOSE's UK customer service line and asked about the problem. As a result, I can now pass on some good news. BOSE are aware of the probem.... and have been able to find a solution. :D

They are offering to collect the docks from their customers and install new software into the unit which does apparently allow it to charge the new 2nd generation Touch. You can arrange this through the normal BOSE customer service lines.

Hope this at least helps some people on here.

Gadgetnutter

Sep 17, 2008, 07:01 AM

First post as well.

I'm afraid the information above isn't entirely accurate!

The fix Bose are talking about is for the SoundDock *Portable* only
I too have had several long conversations with Bose UK, having purchased my SoundDock 4 months ago and have basically been told "tough luck". Bose are blaming Apple for making the changes to the charging circuit and are claiming they were caught unawares just like everyone else!

Interestingly an initial call to Apple Care resulted in me being told that all accessory manufacturers have known for 12 months+ that these changes were going to be made!

NizryErrat

Sep 17, 2008, 08:25 AM

Ah... :o

Apologies for getting any false hopes up then. Mine is a portable but I assumed the update was available for both.

Sorry.

SCOSCHE

Sep 17, 2008, 11:35 AM

Gadgetnutter

Sep 17, 2008, 12:17 PM

SCOSCHE..Do you know if these will be available in the UK?

SCOSCHE

Sep 18, 2008, 04:58 PM

The in-car passPORT will be available in Apple Europe stores in mid to late October. The home docking station solution has not been finalized yet, but I will let you know once we get further along.

crunchiespg

Sep 18, 2008, 07:30 PM

i had to buy a new griffin i trip today as my old ones doesnt work with my new 2g touch..

the newer style i trips work perfectly...

quick5pnt0

Sep 18, 2008, 07:32 PM

Scosche: What are the differences between the home and auto versions? One would assume they'd both do the same thing. Can you give some details?

BTW Thanks for the update, I'll be keeping an eye out for it.

quick5pnt0

Sep 18, 2008, 07:33 PM

i had to buy a new griffin i trip today as my old ones doesnt work with my new 2g touch..

the newer style i trips work perfectly...

Which one is that? Is it the Itrip Autopilot? Or?

granavefenix

Sep 18, 2008, 08:00 PM

One question:

the 2G touch does´t work (play music) on the BOSE sound dock, or it only doesn´t charge when docked? If it only plays music but no charging, there is no a big problem for me. But if it doesn´t work (charge neither play), it is a big problem for me.

Excuse me for my poor english. I´m from Spain.

Thanks.

bildio

Sep 18, 2008, 08:29 PM

it plays, but does not charge. Remote control works.

granavefenix

Sep 18, 2008, 09:36 PM

Thanks bildio. With 36 hours of battery, it won´t be a big problem for me.

I`ll keep waiting for charging adapters that would be in market soon.

I have not lost my BOSE SoundDock.:)

SCOSCHE

Sep 19, 2008, 01:16 PM

quick5pnt0,

The car solution is designed for an inline system like the iPod cable found in many in-car integration systems. Without releasing too much information, the home system is designed for the universal dock adapter found in many home docking stations.

MCP1981

Sep 19, 2008, 03:30 PM

The in-car version of the passPORT will be available in Apple stores in mid to late October. It will be kept behind the scenes at the Genius bars, so you will have to specifically ask for it. It will also be available on Scosche.com shortly thereafter.

The home docking solution is in the final stages of product development and will be available very soon as well. I will probably be giving a few free samples out of each product on this forum to support you guys.

Stay tuned . . .

I have been looking for this item ever since someone at Best Buy mentioned it to me. I called your sales department and they mentioned it should be sold on Apple's website sometime soon. Do you know if this is true and if so, will it happen before mid to late October? I am axiously waiting to buy it!

Loop68

Sep 20, 2008, 07:29 PM

We (my daugther and I ) have Ipods (Touch and Nano-previous model). Both were working ok (charge and sound) with my portable BOSE Sound dock. Suddenly, they stopped working. I thought the Sounddock got damage. Surprise! When I arrive to the Bose customer service the salesman’s plugged in his Ipod on my dock...It worked fine. He told me that something is happening with my two Ipods that I have (Touch and Nano). Could there be possible that the firmware update that I installed recently could impact the compatibility with my sounddock? The mistery is why I didn't have any problem with my two ipods on the Bose portable sounddock until few weeks ago? Someone knows what can I do? Could be possible the downgrade of the firmware? It is the only explanation that I see.

The firmware on my Touch is 1.1.5)

Loop68

Sep 20, 2008, 07:32 PM

Sorry for my english. I am a latino that want to share a similar problem.
We (my daugther and I ) have Ipods (Touch and Nano-previous model). Both were working ok (charge and sound) with my portable BOSE Sound dock. Suddenly, they stopped working. I thought the Sounddock got damage. Surprise! When I arrive to the Bose customer service the salesman’s plugged in his Ipod on my dock...It worked fine. He told me that something is happening with my two Ipods that I have (Touch and Nano). Could there be possible that the firmware update that I installed recently could impact the compatibility with my sounddock? The mistery is why I didn't have any problem with my two ipods on the Bose portable sounddock until few weeks ago? Someone knows what can I do? Could be possible the downgrade of the firmware? It is the only explanation that I see.

The firmware on my Touch is 1.1.5)

doc4x5

Sep 23, 2008, 12:06 AM

I just returned from my local Apple store where I returned the ipod touch 2G I had purchased this morning. While they were pleasant and polite and did not charge me the 10% restocking fee, unfortunately, no one had told me the ipod touch 2G would not charge with ANY of my older accessories, including the expensive adapter I had just had installed in my car. Someone at the store said it was a "firewire problem;" all I know is that they changed something major with no notice. I understand that they cannot support older stuff forever, but this seemed a bit much. I looked on the Apple support website and saw a full page of messages by outraged people who had car adapters, expensive Bose speakers and other things. I went to Costco and got an ipod classic, for $10 less than the Apple store charges and with a 90 day no questions asked refund policy. I love Apple's products, but they do seem a bit greedy at times.

doc

Gadgetnutter

Sep 24, 2008, 07:41 AM

I just purchased a 1G Touch 32Gb for exactly the same reason!

I have a Bose SoundDock and Belkin Tunecast FM and didn't want to have to replace them.

HMV in the UK sold me the 1G Touch 32Gb for £10 less than the Apple store are selling the 2G Touch and threw in a free set of Gear4 Houseparty 4 speakers worth £69.99

I also figured that accessories for the 1G wouldn't be a problem (cases, invisible shield etc..) whereas it will likely be a little while before the 2G accessories land in any volume.

Traz

Sep 25, 2008, 04:14 PM

I was in a local Apple store today & asked them about the touch 2G not charging with the Bose sound dock. He plugged my new Touch in to the Bose dock there & it worked just fine. I ordered a DLO dock before I heard they might not work on the Touch 2G. I don't have it yet but will try it as soon as it comes.

Gadgetnutter

Sep 25, 2008, 07:26 PM

..and I *guarantee* he plugged it into a SoundDock PORTABLE...the £299.95 (in the UK) one.

I say again and it has been acknowledged by Apple and Bose that the Ipod Touch 2G DOES NOT CHARGE in the original Bose SoundDock.

There are even problems with the SoundDock Portable that need a Bose modification RTB repair.

Next time you're in the Apple store pull the power cord from the SoundDock portable whilst your 2G Touch is connected...bet it still shows as charging!! (Unless of course, the already have a Bose modified one)

Traz

Sep 26, 2008, 01:54 AM

Not sure which one he plugged in to. He also plugged it into a SONY & it worked. They looked at me like I was nuts when I said I heard things would not work.
I plugged in to my sons IHOME radio/ipod/alarm clock & it appeared to charge. I should get my DLO FM plug in soon via mail. After if comes I will report back if it charges.

Traz

Sep 26, 2008, 10:24 AM

bijou

Sep 26, 2008, 10:49 AM

I just read something on the Apple site about charging issues. What they answered was, originally ipods were chaarged using a 12v firewire system. A couple years ago when they changed to USB2 charging they told manufactures to switch to the new 5v charging, but the 12v still worked. Some manufactures changed, some didn't. With the new updates Apple is enforcing what they asked manufactures to do before. That may explain why some things work & some things don't.

Thanks for posting this clarification, this does make better sense.

FWIW, I'm looking forward to the Passport solution to the charging issue with our inline iPod connector to the car stereo. Not really wanting to give up that functionality.

Gadgetnutter

Sep 27, 2008, 04:02 AM

Traz..Do you by any chance have a link to that information on the Apple site?

Rizvi1

Sep 29, 2008, 11:17 AM

..I went to Costco and got an ipod classic, for $10 less than the Apple store charges and with a 90 day no questions asked refund policy...

While at Costco, did you see if they have the new iPod Touch? I was hoping to buy from there to save some money and get their more flexible return policy.

Still debating on whether to get a 16gb or a 32gb.

I don't have any accessories really so no big deal on if this 2gb iPod Touch doesn't charge correctly on anything. However, I was considering getting some sort of iPod adapter installed in both my wife's 2007 Accord EX w/ Navi and my 2004 Accord EX w/ Navi, so maybe I should make sure what I buy is compatible with charging the new iPod Touch too (my wife will be using my old iPod 4gb nano in her car - the one I got in fall 2007)

jvinc

Jan 5, 2009, 07:54 AM

I have a 16GB 2g iPod Touch (speaker, hard volume controls etc.) and recently purchased an original Bose Sounddock at a discount (realising fully that it would NOT charge my 2g iPod touch), got it home, plugged in my nearly empty charge iPod and was amazed to see that it 'appeared' to charge the battery.

Of course this could not be true as everyone 'knows' the original sounddock does not charge the new iPod touch. :)

Well, to dispel any confusion, it certainly DOES charge the new iPod Touch or I have a really clever iPod which charges itself :D Battery was full after a session of music listening.

I am very happy with the sound quality and am even more impressed that it charges (when it is not 'suppose' to). Perhaps Bose have applied the firmware update to the last run of the original dock?

NC MacGuy

Jan 5, 2009, 08:06 AM

While at Costco, did you see if they have the new iPod Touch? I was hoping to buy from there to save some money and get their more flexible return policy.

Still debating on whether to get a 16gb or a 32gb.

I don't have any accessories really so no big deal on if this 2gb iPod Touch doesn't charge correctly on anything. However, I was considering getting some sort of iPod adapter installed in both my wife's 2007 Accord EX w/ Navi and my 2004 Accord EX w/ Navi, so maybe I should make sure what I buy is compatible with charging the new iPod Touch too (my wife will be using my old iPod 4gb nano in her car - the one I got in fall 2007)

Definitely get the 32gb. You'll be surprised how fast you fill it up especially if you stick some movies on it and get a bunch of apps.

Rizvi1

Jan 6, 2009, 09:35 PM

Definitely get the 32gb. You'll be surprised how fast you fill it up especially if you stick some movies on it and get a bunch of apps.

haha, don't worry, I did end up getting the 32gb. It was a gift from my wife for Eid, and her orders were to get the 32gb if the savings were significant from Costco and even though the savings were $10 only, she still got it. I was happy angry with her.

But yeah, so glad it's a 32gb. I got the Hulk on mine now and will have the Dark Knight soon (thanks to the digital copies that came with my blu-rays).

I just bought my new 2008 IS 350 on Sunday and there's a hack to be able to not just use your iPod with the factory system for music - but also for watching movies that are on your iPod.

agargar

Jan 8, 2009, 08:26 AM

Hi everybody,

I have a touch 1G and a nano 4G. There are two ways of charging the touch: USB (5V) or Firewire (12V).
The new nano does not support firewire, only USB :mad:. Some car chargers use the firewire standard, because they don't have to transform the car's voltage, which is also 12V.
Perhaps, the touch 2G does no longer support the firewire. Don't know. I think there is no easy workarround for this. Similar for the problems with the docking stations.

:)HOWEVER, I had also a lot of problems charging over the USB with my touch with some wall adapters. I found a workarround, which is working with my Touch 1G and my nano 4G. You can find it hier:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=5460557&postcount=27
(corrected)

I don't know if it works with the touch 2G.

saludos