Poll: How many Compact Discs (Music) do you own?

[MacRumors]

Vote: Poll: How many Compact Discs (Music) do you own? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=360)

[Bear]

Somewhere well over 900.

[Mudbug]

I stopped counting after 200 when importing songs to iTunes...

[Pseudonym]

About 300. A lot of people seem to have 200+. When iTunes hits the UK I'm sure I will buy less CDs (assuming the pricing is sensible).

[random1]

The poll choices are almost silly. 200 isn't even close to what most people I know own, even non-music lovers...
The range of choices is too condensed.

[arn]

Originally posted by random1
The poll choices are almost silly. 200 isn't even close to what most people I know own, even non-music lovers...
The range of choices is too condensed.

apparnetly, you're right. :)

we'll let the poll run out and adjust for next time.

arn

[Laslo Panaflex]

I used to own lots of CDs, but since I have an iPod I have no need for them. I imported all my cds into itunes, and put them on my iPod. Of course, I have them backed up on two different HDs, and DVD. . . can't be too carerfull. I then sold them back to the record store at a huge loss, but hey, better then just sitting collecting dust.

I am not a picky about bitrates and sound quality as many people are. MP3 versions of my music are quality enough for me.

[Le Big Mac]

Originally posted by arn
apparnetly, you're right. :)

we'll let the poll run out and adjust for next time.

arn

Yeah, the question should be: how many CDs have you purchased in the last 3 years. Then the ranges would probably be right.

[eric_n_dfw]

Originally posted by Laslo Panaflex
I used to own lots of CDs, but since I have an iPod I have no need for them. I imported all my cds into itunes, and put them on my iPod. Of course, I have them backed up on two different HDs, and DVD. . . can't be too carerfull. I then sold them back to the record store at a huge loss, but hey, better then just sitting collecting dust.You are brave to post that with the RIAA on their latest witch-hunts. I'm no lawyer or anything, but I'm pretty sure that when you sold those CD's you sold the rights to have the copies you made. Following the letter of the law, you should delete them and the backup copies you've made.

Same as if you installed software and then sold it on eBay or something.

(As I duck and run from the room! :p )

[alset]

I would say that this poll underestimated large CD collections. I'd really like to see answers listing higher than 200+ to take a more detailed glimpse at the numbers.

Dan

[rabatjoie]

uh, you guys seem to have a lot of money on your hands for buying CDs... apart from that, why not ask about vinyl? i listen to music either completely digital on my computer or completely analog on my record player - to me, the CD seems more and more kind of a bastard medium - copying the old "rotating disk"-metaphor and containing digital data at the same time...
death to the CD! long live ogg/aac/mp3 and vinyl (there's nothing above it!) :D :D :D

[rueyeet]

My music collection is even now wincing at its sub-200-CD inadaquacy. :p :D

[edesignuk]

how many do I own? ...or... how many do I have? :D ;) :p

[eric_n_dfw]

Originally posted by rabatjoie
...to me, the CD seems more and more kind of a bastard medium - copying the old "rotating disk"-metaphor and containing digital data at the same time...
death to the CD! long live ogg/aac/mp3 and vinyl (there's nothing above it!) :D :D :D Um - the CD is better quality than ogg,aac or mp3, so why would you want it to, 'die'. :rolleyes:

Analog vs. Digital debates have raged for as long as the CD has been around (maybe longer) - the market chose digital.

My big problem with analog is that it wears out, digital doesn't.

[evil_santa]

600+ all riped to mp3

[Trowaman]

CDs are out of date and mini disk wil never happen. It's all about the iPods now.

. . . I need more music . . . :(:rolleyes:

[djdarlek]

Originally posted by Laslo Panaflex
I used to own lots of CDs, but since I have an iPod I have no need for them. I imported all my cds into itunes, and put them on my iPod. Of course, I have them backed up on two different HDs, and DVD. . . can't be too carerfull. I then sold them back to the record store at a huge loss, but hey, better then just sitting collecting dust.

I am not a picky about bitrates and sound quality as many people are. MP3 versions of my music are quality enough for me.

i couldn't agree more.. I have been in the process of slowly giving the CDs away to friends and family by allowing any new person who visits me at home to take 4 CDs of their choice away for free. I can't bear the thought of getting paid tuppance for CDs purely cos they're second hand.. so long as they go to good homes I'm happy.

:D

[Counterfit]

Hmm, I honestly have no idea. I'll have to check when I go home this weekend. I do know that my brother owns well over 400 CDs and ?500+ records.

[mraudet]

over 600 cds. i am in the process of ripping to aac. i wish itunes had a mechanism for liner notes and the like. i like the cd art and feel better having the cds for backup.

[cnladd]

Should have gone for larder increments, with a much higher cap. For me, somewhere between 2000 and 2500, which isn't including another 500 or so that tends to float between myself and my father. His collection is much larger, but that's understandable considering that he's made radio his career for the past forty years.

I stopped buying CDs at the beginning of the year, and have only purchased two since iTMS has come out (because they weren't available in the Store at the time.) I have another hundred or two that I've purchased from iTMS that I'm not including in the count.

And, of course, I've been in the process of trying to rip everything I own into AAC format so I can have everything on-hand (instead of in storage, where most of the discs are kept.)

[rabatjoie]

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
Um - the CD is better quality than ogg,aac or mp3, so why would you want it to, 'die'. :rolleyes:

Analog vs. Digital debates have raged for as long as the CD has been around (maybe longer) - the market chose digital.

My big problem with analog is that it wears out, digital doesn't.

i'm no audiophile myself, but there are those people around who say that nothing can beat vinyl played on a real good system. but still, i like the vinyl disc because it is a material manifestation of the music - not like CD/Digital formats on HD, where it's all just indistinguishable ones and zeros... i kind of like that in a world where everything changes faster and faster. then, playing vinyl is much more of a ritual kind of thing, you listen to the music much more consciously because it is less convenient to put it on. in iTunes, you can just click around in your library. finally, there is the covers! 12" by 12" covers! such a huge space to show artwork on! what an amazing concept! why did we ever abandon it for something tiny like a CD case?

so, the way i listen to music is that i download the stuff that i am interested in on my mac - and when something really pleases me, it gets admitted to the personal audio temple on vinyl, hehe.

of course these arguments are kind of "stupid" from a "rational" point of view, but hey, it's so much more fun if you make up little philosophies in order to give meaning to the things you do... :D

[D0ct0rteeth]

around 2000.

All ripped and kept on an external firewire drive.

- Doc

[djdarlek]

with all this burning, ripping, downloading, backuping,... i DO hope you all remember to acctually listen the the 1000000000 hours of music you all own :)

[iElvis]

My very own CDs.... very few. But after the fact that i borrow my friends CDs and rip them into iTunes, it looks like i have a whole lot more. My only problem is that my hard-drive is running out of space.

[diniscorreia]

Originally posted by iElvis
My very own CDs.... very few. But after the fact that i borrow my friends CDs and rip them into iTunes, it looks like i have a whole lot more. My only problem is that my hard-drive is running out of space.

Exactly the same thing here.
I have like... 800MB of free hd space :rolleyes:

[iElvis]

Originally posted by diniscorreia
Exactly the same thing here.
I have like... 800MB of free hd space :rolleyes:
I'm not that low yet. But once i copy one of my friends iTunes collection... then i will be. An iPod would be so nice... but there are so many other things on the list before it.

[Bear]

Originally posted by rabatjoie
uh, you guys seem to have a lot of money on your hands for buying CDs... apart from that, why not ask about vinyl?
... As for how much money people have for CDs - you can't guess. What if someone bough 1 CD a week ever since CDs came out about 20 years ago? What if they bought CDs used or on sale? What if they got some as gifts? And so on...

As for Vinyl, that would be an amusing poll to see how many people own any and if they still have a working turntable. I have about 50 albuyms left on vinyl and a working turntable.

[Bear]

Originally posted by iElvis
I'm not that low yet. But once i copy one of my friends iTunes collection... then i will be. An iPod would be so nice... but there are so many other things on the list before it. You're also brave to admit that after the last batch of RIAA lawsuits have been issued.

[eric_n_dfw]

You know, we all bitch and moan about the RIAA and the music industry, but by the comments I see here, I almost don't blame them.

Call me what you want, but YOU are the problem. I hate to admit this, but the RIAA has a valid point. I dissagree with the way they are trying to solve the problem, but they've got to do something.

Nobody argues that if I were to buy Halo for Mac, copy it and then give it to a friend or sell it and keep playing the copy, that I would have broken the law. But people seem to think that music is somehow different. As if the musicians spent any less time or money producing an album/CD than the developers who coded the software.

I really don't get it.
:confused:

[Le Big Mac]

Originally posted by rabatjoie
uh, you guys seem to have a lot of money on your hands for buying CDs...

I have 300+. That's about 15/year since CDs came out, although it was probably 25/year for a while and then 3/year. But, of those 300, probably 1/3 to 1/2 were purchased through a record club on a 12 for 1 (+S/H). When BMG had their great deals, I think I figured I was paying about $3-4/disc. Not bad.

[virividox]

cds arent dead, chicks dig it wen u burn them a cd :D but they dig the ipod more, but i cant give away ipods like that, I Love cds, hehe over 400 i think

[mc68k]

prob around 90

i get rid of the ones i dont listen to to keep the collection smaller

[diniscorreia]

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
You know, we all bitch and moan about the RIAA and the music industry, but by the comments I see here, I almost don't blame them.

Call me what you want, but YOU are the problem. I hate to admit this, but the RIAA has a valid point. I dissagree with the way they are trying to solve the problem, but they've got to do something.


Well, most of my music was legally bought - something near 150 CDs.
However, CDs are way too expensive for a college student like me, at least here in Portugal: recent releases are 17 to 19 euros. That's why sometimes I rip a friend's cd, although I haven't ripped that many (less than 12...).

Isn't the RIAA more concerned with global piracy through the Internet?...
:rolleyes:

[sethypoo]

When I was a kid, I'd listen to a CD until it couldn't play anymore (ie, scratched too much).

So, accordingly, I only own like 65 CD's, most of which still work.

CD's were like gold to me. I thought they were so cool when they first came out.

[winmacguy]

Originally posted by virividox
cds arent dead, chicks dig it wen u burn them a cd :D but they dig the ipod more, but i cant give away ipods like that, I Love cds, hehe over 400 i think

I like your way of thinking

[winmacguy]

Originally posted by Le Big Mac
I have 300+. That's about 15/year since CDs came out, although it was probably 25/year for a while and then 3/year. But, of those 300, probably 1/3 to 1/2 were purchased through a record club on a 12 for 1 (+S/H). When BMG had their great deals, I think I figured I was paying about $3-4/disc. Not bad.

You guys dont know how lucky you are. In NZ our CDs from record stores start at $34.95 or $39.95 ($15.00-20.00 US) then after they have been out or go on special they go down to about $24.95 you can pick up good deals at $10.00 a CD I am not too sure about second hand CD stores although I think they would sell CDs for about $14.95 or so but that is just a guess

[idkew]

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
I really don't get it.
:confused:

I believe the RIAA is an illegal cartel, artificially inflating the price of music. i actively boycott any and all riaa member artists. give me a cd <=$5, i will buy it.

(edit- the less than or equal to symbol [opt-,] comes out as a ? once posted. weird huh?)

[idkew]

Originally posted by virividox
cds arent dead, chicks dig it wen u burn them a cd :D but they dig the ipod more, but i cant give away ipods like that, I Love cds, hehe over 400 i think

i win big points for burning my little lady cds. i use nice colored bottom cds, and make nice covers for them....

[SilvorX]

I'm too poor to afford many cds, so not many, but most cd's ive ever purchased were due to me discovering artists I liked on Napster/Kazaa/Poisoned/etc

[bennetsaysargh]

Originally posted by iElvis
My very own CDs.... very few. But after the fact that i borrow my friends CDs and rip them into iTunes, it looks like i have a whole lot more. My only problem is that my hard-drive is running out of space.

that's just like my mom remembers recording stuff off the radio onto a cassette and giving them her friends and that way they can use it in their walkmans/walkmen (however you want to say it).
same end result, just now it's more convenient to do and it's done with a kid in California instead of running down to the stoop and giving the cassette to your friend.

[jrv3034]

I only have about 125. Most of those are film soundtracks (the music scores, not pop songs used in movies). I justify paying $15 for a CD if it's a good composer (John Williams, James Horner, Jerry Goldsmith, Danny Elfman, Alan Silvestri, Hans Zimmer, Howard Shore, etc.), but otherwise, I don't buy many CDs. Right now I'm much more interested in DVDs.:D

[hulugu]

Originally posted by rabatjoie
[B...finally, there is the covers! 12" by 12" covers! such a huge space to show artwork on! what an amazing concept! why did we ever abandon it for something tiny like a CD case?
[/B]

That's why I have those frames that hold records, I really like the artwork on some of the old vinyl. Miles Davis' Bitches Brew is by far my favorite cover. However, vinyl while nice in its ritual and sounding amazing in a really nice stereo, is not something for daily or even weekly use. Someone needs to develop 'immortal vinyl.'
I miss the liner notes and CD label art, but I really like having 1000+ songs at my disposal.

[Nermal]

I have 5. I only buy music CDs if they've got an enhanced video track or two, otherwise I just download the music.

I also own a couple of music DVDs.

I'm sure that I'll buy a lot more music once iTunes comes to NZ. The rumours are saying February.

[wdlove]

I own somewhere between 90 - 100. This sounds like I should actually count them.

[pimentoLoaf]

I have around 15 or so, mostly classical recordings with odd li'l AAD, ADD, DDD symbols on the discs.

They aren't copy protected, so they load into my iPod rather nicely.

Otherwise, it's either iTunes Store or I just flip on a radio.

[eric_n_dfw]

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
that's just like my mom remembers recording stuff off the radio onto a cassette and giving them her friends and that way they can use it in their walkmans/walkmen (however you want to say it).
same end result, just now it's more convenient to do and it's done with a kid in California instead of running down to the stoop and giving the cassette to your friend. Not the same as a perfect digital copy. Consumer analog tape recording was of much less less fidelity, especially coming off of FM radio.

[eric_n_dfw]

Originally posted by idkew
I believe the RIAA is an illegal cartel, artificially inflating the price of music. i actively boycott any and all riaa member artists. give me a cd <=$5, i will buy it.

(edit- the less than or equal to symbol [opt-,] comes out as a ? once posted. weird huh?) That opinion and a quarter will get you a call to your lawyer if you ever land in court. Regardless of what you or I think about the RIAA, they are operating within the letter of the law. Copyrighted works must be protected. Even the EFF agrees with that, they just think the RIAA is crazy with their SS like tactics -- as do I. But just because I think that doesn't make them illegal.

Just because we don't like the law doesn't give us the right to break it - work to change the law and/or convice the record companies to embrace digital technology. iTunes is a start, cheaper CD's are coming too. But stealing does nothing but give them more ammo for their attacks.

[eric_n_dfw]

Originally posted by diniscorreia
Well, most of my music was legally bought - something near 150 CDs.
However, CDs are way too expensive for a college student like me, at least here in Portugal: recent releases are 17 to 19 euros. That's why sometimes I rip a friend's cd, although I haven't ripped that many (less than 12...).

Isn't the RIAA more concerned with global piracy through the Internet?...
:rolleyes: Yes, they are going after the, "big fish" you might say (although grandmothers and little kids are not much of a catch!)

The overall issue is piracy, something I assure you they are trying to crack down on as well.

I understand being poor - I was a college student once too - but it doesn't make it right to steal.

[ZildjianKX]

I own a lot... and I've refused to buy any new CDs due to the way the RIAA has been treating its customers lately...

[eric_n_dfw]

I have a couple hundred - but I think I've bought only one since iTMS came out.

I never use 'em - they're all ripped into AAC and I stream them to my laptop while home or burn compilations to listen to on the road. Haven't justified the $$$ for an iPod yet, but those Mini's are awful temping!

[diniscorreia]

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
I understand being poor - I was a college student once too - but it doesn't make it right to steal.

I know - but like someone pointed, copies were made to audio cassettes years ago. And even if the copy wasn't perfect, people wouldn't buy the record (vinyl, whatever...) if they had it on a cassette.

And like I said, I usually end up buying the albuns I borrow from friends.

So, if you like it, buy it :)

[MattG]

Last time I counted it was around 350 or so...now it's probably more like 400.

[arsonist]

around 1000 CDs, and maybe 3 or 4 thousand Vinyl.

But I'm way to lazy to rip vinyl, so i get them on Direct Connect. Which i believe is Legally ok.

I just don't dig the sounds of either CDs or MP3s/AACs over Vinyl. A good record player, amp and speakers with vinyl is the best sound you can ever enjoy.

[shamino]

Originally posted by winmacguy
You guys dont know how lucky you are. In NZ our CDs from record stores start at $34.95 or $39.95 ($15.00-20.00 US)
Actually, this is close to the prices we pay in the US. Most of the big-name record stores charge between $15 and $18 for discs, with some titles discounted down to about $10.

Some discount stores (that use CDs as a loss-leader) may charge a bit less, but even their prices are still around $12-15.

The used stores near me (around Washington DC) usually buy CDs at $5 (if they're in good condition) and sell them at $8.

The best prices are usually from the mail-order record clubs. I belong to BMG. While their catalog is all list-price ($16-18 each), they always run specials like "buy one get two free" or "everything at 70% off" or other similar deals. After adding back shipping charges, it usually comes to about $8 per disc, if you buy enough discs to take full advantage of the special offers (usually about 3-5 in one order.) The problem with this source is that the record clubs don't have the best selections - if your tastes aren't mainstream, you may have a hard time finding things you want.

[revenuee]

maybe about 40 CD -- stopped buying music about 6 years ago ...

it's not illegal to download music in Canada so i can freely say i do that without worrying about breaking the law

:) ...

[shamino]

Originally posted by hulugu
However, vinyl while nice in its ritual and sounding amazing in a really nice stereo, is not something for daily or even weekly use. Someone needs to develop 'immortal vinyl.'
Or a player that doesn't wear out the media.

I know of one such player (http://www.elpj.com/) but if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it. :(

[eric_n_dfw]

Originally posted by revenuee
...it's not illegal to download music in Canada so i can freely say i do that without worrying about breaking the law

:) ... I doubt that. There is a such thing as international copyright law, afaik.

[diniscorreia]

Originally posted by revenuee
maybe about 40 CD -- stopped buying music about 6 years ago ...

it's not illegal to download music in Canada so i can freely say i do that without worrying about breaking the law

:) ...

Legal or not, it's still morally wrong.

[$usu$ki]

don't own any
all my music is illegal
but it isn't that much, 7GB mp3 format, 1666 songs, so say like 150 CDs

[eric_n_dfw]

Originally posted by diniscorreia
I know - but like someone pointed, copies were made to audio cassettes years ago. And even if the copy wasn't perfect, people wouldn't buy the record (vinyl, whatever...) if they had it on a cassette.

And like I said, I usually end up buying the albuns I borrow from friends.

So, if you like it, buy it :) I doubt cassette copies - esp. dubbed off radio - did much to dent new recording sales. The quality was so much worse. I don't think it kept me from buying a CD - in fact, like you, I always ended up buying the CD to get both the better quality -AND- the random accessability (no ffwd'ind to get past the crap tracks!)

[eric_n_dfw]

You know what the RIAA is doing with the latest 500+ law suits, don't you? They have IP addresses of people sharing songs on P2P networks. They are opening law suits against John Doe's at those IP addresses and then, using court orders to get the ISP's to turn over the names of the people who were were using those IP's at those times.

Look in the bottom right corner of each message on this forum -- see "IP Logged"? If MacRumors.com ever got a court order to turn those IP's over, I don't think Arn would have much choice but to do so.

Be carefull what you admit to in public!

Am I being paranoid? Maybe. But I'd rather be safe than sorry! (Not that I have anything to hide! As they say, I'm golden! ;) )



(Okay, maybe tarnished bronze! :p )

[revenuee]

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
I doubt that. There is a such thing as international copyright law, afaik.

if you need proof :)

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39118537,00.htm

Legal or not, it's still morally wrong.

Almost killed myself laughing over this one. :)

[diniscorreia]

Originally posted by revenuee

Almost killed myself laughing over this one. :)

Hm care to explain? :)

[revenuee]

Originally posted by diniscorreia
Hm care to explain? :)

It reminded me of a south park episode that came out during the Napster fiasco.

That and i'm constantly being lectured on my lack of morals or ethics ... maybe they have a point ... LOL

EDIT ... oops ... wasn't during the Napster problem ... it was a recent episode ... i just thought they stopped making new ones ... sure was wrong

[eric_n_dfw]

Originally posted by revenuee
if you need proof :)

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39118537,00.htm

[/B]Very interesting. But like the link says:
A lawyer for the Canadian record industry's trade association said the group still believed downloading was illegal, despite the decision.

"Our position is that under Canadian law, downloading is also prohibited," said Richard Pfohl, general counsel for the Canadian Recording Industry Association. "This is the opinion of the Copyright Board, but Canadian courts will decide this issue."It'll take someone going to court to figure out exactly what is "legal".

One thing the RIAA is doing right (I cringe as I say that) is that they are (this time) going after the uploaders. The ones who are spreading the files.

[~Shard~]

Well over 200 CDs for me - the choices for this poll should have started at 200, not ended! ;)

[revenuee]

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
Very interesting. But like the link says:
It'll take someone going to court to figure out exactly what is "legal".

One thing the RIAA is doing right (I cringe as I say that) is that they are (this time) going after the uploaders. The ones who are spreading the files.

Then i want the extra 25$ back for what i payed on my iPod .... might need to put it toward my lawyer fund :D

[diniscorreia]

Originally posted by revenuee
It reminded me of a south park episode that came out during the Napster fiasco.

That and i'm constantly being lectured on my lack of morals or ethics ... maybe they have a point ... LOL

I. Kant is a good start (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0300094876/103-7863846-7036625) :D
(fascinating book, headache guaranteed tho :p ;) )

[revenuee]

Originally posted by diniscorreia
I. Kant is a good start (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0300094876/103-7863846-7036625) :D
(fascinating book, headache guaranteed tho :p ;) )

Cute ... but i've studied Kant, and Hume, and Lock, and Moore, and Confucius and Plato.

Didn't do it for me though

[Photorun]

I only own maybe 650-700, mostly ripped to iTunes, sadly my iPod is 2nd Gen 10 GB so there's only maybe 2000 songs on it (about 200 CDs).

A friend of mine has a literal addiction to buying CDs. He has a room that every wall he built racks for them floor to ceiling, they're all alphabetical, at the door on the left starts A and by the right it's Z, he leaves a little space on every one of the literally 100s of shelves. In the middle of the room on a table is a stereo, across from it, a really comfy chair... it's very bizarre. I asked him what his last count was and he said about 15,000!!! They're all insured (be nuts not to be) and he's been buying about 5 to 20 CDs a week since he got his first good paying job about 12 years ago. Before that he'd use college loan money to buy at least a dozen a month. Basically if you want to listen to a CD or know a liner note or what's on what cover, just let him know (or go over if you're in New York) because he probably has it. The only thing he lacks is some classical, some opera, and all country. Rock, jazz, blues, he probably owns it, in or out of print (he buys out of print on eBay). If a "Definitive Master" of a CD comes out he'll buy it and he'll trade away the regular one, a gold CD, of course he'll get it, I mean, it's obsession to the extreme. BUT it's cool. The funny part is I keep saying "dude, you should get an iPod and start ripping these CDs" and he looks at me and says "[pause] where would I begin?" Touche.

[revenuee]

Originally posted by Photorun
BUT it's cool. The funny part is I keep saying "dude, you should get an iPod and start ripping these CDs" and he looks at me and says "[pause] where would I begin?" Touche.


The logic answer would seem ... at "A" :rolleyes: :D

[hulugu]

Originally posted by shamino
Or a player that doesn't wear out the media.

I know of one such player (http://www.elpj.com/) but if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it. :(

That's pretty cool, but I think it suffers the same problem a CD does, a least according to some of the rapid audiophiles I know, it still makes the music digital. I'm begining to think that's part of vinyl, the fact that is wears out, the warmth of the sound is what they keep mentioning, but personally I think they mean static, weird little variations in the music, the warp and weft so to speak.
And don't steal music the rest of you, Lars Ulrich is starving! You're "stealing from [us]!" Everytime they showed that guy on MTV I immediately went to Macster or Morpheus; I was like Mel Gibson's character in Conspiracy Theory buying Catcher in the Rye over and over. I couldn't help it!
The RIAA's strong-arm tactics and army of lawyers are like the US Government trying to stop Bootleggers in the '20s. Ultimately the label must accept a new business models—like iTMS—to save their hides. Suing a 15 year-old girl is a tremenous waste of the court's time and our money, and the errosion of civil liberties using fly-by-night warrents along with the continuous attacks on ISPs and their privacy policies is dangerous.
However, downloading music you have paid for is not fair-use, but making a copy as a backup, moving a copy to your mp3 player, making a tape is fair use. This is a very important part of the law that everyone ignores.

[Counterfit]

Originally posted by hulugu
That's pretty cool, but I think it suffers the same problem a CD does, a least according to some of the rapid audiophiles I know, it still makes the music digital. I'm begining to think that's part of vinyl, the fact that is wears out, the warmth of the sound is what they keep mentioning, but personally I think they mean static, weird little variations in the music, the warp and weft so to speak. I think that if they really cared about the quality of the music, they'd go see a live show.

[Sailfish]

I think I got a several hundred cd's, never counted them. But I have them boxed up and all my iTunes reciepts.

So everyone (including the RIAA) is welcome to see my music.

Just the hits or my entire Library

http://homepage.mac.com/hogfish

[Sabenth]

last count and ill count those that i own in the UK as well as in australia. 500 Maybe a few more than that. just rounded it off to about that its more than 200 more 300 ok about 450 roughly LOL :)

[revenuee]

Originally posted by Counterfit
I think that if they really cared about the quality of the music, they'd go see a live show.

I personally hate live shows ... unless it's in a studio ...

That many people ... and as great as the acoustics are in many halls .... i just don't enjoy it ... might be the whole experience ... oh well

[~Shard~]

Originally posted by revenuee
I personally hate live shows ... unless it's in a studio ...

That many people ... and as great as the acoustics are in many halls .... i just don't enjoy it ... might be the whole experience ... oh well

Fair enough - that's simply personal preference. For me though, I love live shows. And unless I'm listening to the symphony orchestra perform (which I usually never do since I actually play in the orchestra!), acoustics don't really matter to me. Of course I want the performers to sound good, in tune, etc. but for me, a live concert is about the entire experience and impact - you just can't beat it! No recording, no matter how good and "acoustically perfect", can compare to the energy and overall experience of seeing a live performance - as long as the show is a good one, of course! ;) :cool:

[revenuee]

Originally posted by ~Shard~
Fair enough - that's simply personal preference. For me though, I love live shows. And unless I'm listening to the symphony orchestra perform (which I usually never do since I actually play in the orchestra!), acoustics don't really matter to me. Of course I want the performers to sound good, in tune, etc. but for me, a live concert is about the entire experience and impact - you just can't beat it! No recording, no matter how good and "acoustically perfect", can compare to the energy and overall experience of seeing a live performance - as long as the show is a good one, of course! ;) :cool:

Thats fair ... but for me it is bout music ... i like to sit a in a comfy chair and either have a soft pair of headphone, or have it going through my stereo ... mind you i can't afford to get a Danon setup... but i do my best with what i have, and take the time to EQ the music for the room i'm in.


I like going to an orchestra i don't find as exausting ... but i hate going to rock shows ... people just can't stay seated ... and you gotta stand up. I like to sit and listen.

[encro]

About 800 CD's and 30 Vinyl. Mostly accumulated while at school. Thankyou Austudy.

[shamino]

Originally posted by hulugu
That's pretty cool, but I think it suffers the same problem a CD does, a least according to some of the rapid audiophiles I know, it still makes the music digital.
Go back to the site and read the product description (http://www.elpj.com/about/index.html). They write:
True Analog Playback
The sound reproducing components are analog and the mechanism control and programming logic is digital.
In other words, it does not digitize the audio. My guess is that they are running the raw data from the laser entirely through analog circuits.

Whether this captures the same sound that audiophiles love to talk about when playing vinyl is beyond me. I've never used equipment good enough for me to notice it on traditional turntables.

The "rapid audiophiles" you know may be referring to a different product, or ELPJ may be lying. I wouldn't know about this.

[shamino]

Originally posted by Counterfit
I think that if they really cared about the quality of the music, they'd go see a live show.
Easier said than done if you want to listen to Toscanini conducting the New York Philharmonic.

I suspect the technology for time travel or reanimating the dead would cost more than a really good turntable. :D

[Counterfit]

Heh, as always. Kind of hard to go see Louis Armstrong, Duke Eliington, or Tommy Dorsey now isn't it?

[Haouka]

I have about 300-400 legal CD's and in the process of ripping them to iTunes. Hope it will be more convenient to listen to them ... especially when I buy something like SLIMP3 to transfer music throught whole house.

I have almost no illegal music ... However I almost stopped buying CD's as I have more and more CD's I cant play on my mac ... or my car because of Copy Protection. This is crazy!!!!!!! I'm ready to pay for the CD's, I do it and then I cant play them. How worse could it be!!!!!!!

But I will keep buying CD's from smaller Belgian bands, which would be difficult to find on the Internet anyway and because I want to support the bands.

[King Cobra]

(shakes fist to poll: Damn ayou, can't you stay open for one adamn mont?)

Got about 100, probably was about 80 before the holidays. :eek: :eek: :eek:

[hulugu]

Originally posted by shamino
Go back to the site and read the product description (http://www.elpj.com/about/index.html). They write:
In other words, it does not digitize the audio. My guess is that they are running the raw data from the laser entirely through analog circuits.

Whether this captures the same sound that audiophiles love to talk about when playing vinyl is beyond me. I've never used equipment good enough for me to notice it on traditional turntables.

The "rapid audiophiles" you know may be referring to a different product, or ELPJ may be lying. I wouldn't know about this.

You're right Shamino, this is a very cool product. I pointed this out to one of the 'rapid audiophiles' and I think he's going to go buy it. The last time I pointed something out he bought an iPod (portability suffers quality); I think he owes me consulting fees. ;) I'll give you a cut.

[encro]

Originally posted by Haouka
I have almost no illegal music ... However I almost stopped buying CD's as I have more and more CD's I cant play on my mac ... or my car because of Copy Protection. This is crazy!!!!!!! I'm ready to pay for the CD's, I do it and then I cant play them. How worse could it be!!!!!!!

Interesting. My Superdrive plays copy protected CD's no problem and rips them just as easily into iTunes. Is this very common?

[denjeff]

i have less then 10 cd's i think, a lot of vinyl (it rocks :)) and a quiet big itunes library :D but my sister has a larger CD collection and I buy CD's for her, so eventually i must have bought a lot more CD's then 10 i suppose...

[denjeff]

Originally posted by Haouka
But I will keep buying CD's from smaller Belgian bands, which would be difficult to find on the Internet anyway and because I want to support the bands.

yeah, belgian bands rock!!! i buy a lot of belgian bands for my sister. :)

[~Shard~]

Originally posted by revenuee
Thats fair ... but for me it is bout music ... i like to sit a in a comfy chair and either have a soft pair of headphone, or have it going through my stereo ... mind you i can't afford to get a Danon setup... but i do my best with what i have, and take the time to EQ the music for the room i'm in.

I like going to an orchestra i don't find as exausting ... but i hate going to rock shows ... people just can't stay seated ... and you gotta stand up. I like to sit and listen.

I totally understand - I enjoy just sitting down and listening as well. Plus, it would get expensive going to live shows all the time!

[rt_brained]

I own all of them.

[~Shard~]

Originally posted by rt_brained
I own all of them.

Wow, all of them? Cool, in that case would you mind sending me the CD my best friend's band produded and distributed last year, as I've misplaced my copy! ;)

[wdlove]

i just took the time today to organize my music CD's. So I counted them, currently own 355 CD's.

[~Shard~]

Originally posted by wdlove
i just took the time today to organize my music CD's. So I counted them, currently own 355 CD's.

Wow, how long did that take? That's one of those ominous tasks I would love to take care of one of these days, but don't know when I'll ever get around to it. And as for cataloguing, organizing and counting all my MP3s, I think that task will take me even longer. ;)

[shamino]

Originally posted by ~Shard~
Wow, how long did that take? That's one of those ominous tasks I would love to take care of one of these days, but don't know when I'll ever get around to it. And as for cataloguing, organizing and counting all my MP3s, I think that task will take me even longer. ;)
My CD collection is 646 albums - (counting multi-disc albums and box sets as a single album) My total music collection (if you include vinyl and casssette is 764 albums (plus duplicates, if you count the same album on multiple formats as separate albums.)

Years ago, this became too big to keep straight in my head, so I created a database in FileMaker to track them all. When I go shopping in stores for music, I take a prinout of the list - it's about 12 pages, but I print it 4-up, so it only consumes three sheets of paper. I've made similar databases for my book collection (which is just as large) and my movies collection (which is not yet that big, but probably will become that large in the future.)

It took me a few months (working part-time in the evenings) to rip all the CDs into iTunes. The collection is now about 32GB. I still need to get an audio interface for my Mac so I can rip those albums that I only have on cassette or LP.

[wdlove]

Originally posted by ~Shard~
Wow, how long did that take? That's one of those ominous tasks I would love to take care of one of these days, but don't know when I'll ever get around to it. And as for cataloguing, organizing and counting all my MP3s, I think that task will take me even longer. ;)

Actually only a couple of hours. I have an entertainment center in the living room. It has drawers for cassettes, CD's and VCR. I cheated by counting one row and multiply by the number in each of 2 drawers. Plus box sets and 2 other locations.

[~Shard~]

Originally posted by wdlove
Actually only a couple of hours. I have an entertainment center in the living room. It has drawers for cassettes, CD's and VCR. I cheated by counting one row and multiply by the number in each of 2 drawers. Plus box sets and 2 other locations.

Fair enough then - that would definitely make it easier! :)

[jero]

a little over 300. i have 8 crates of vinyl too.

[Nanda Devi]

Haven't touched a CD since I bought my iPod one year ago. I had around 150 of them, they are all boxed up and put away and I will never deal with them again. Who would want to bother searching through a stack of discs when you can scroll through a playlist or browse for an artist? No more putting 20 of them back in their cases the morning after a party, no more ugly CD towers... I am keen on consolidation and space-saving, so my entire system and music collection consists of iPod and Bose Wave radio. In other words, what used to easily take up a few large boxes (stereo system and hundreds of CDs and storage rack) now fits inside a shoe box. Not to mention the freedom and flexibility that playlists and the shuffle option offer...

[~Shard~]

Originally posted by Nanda Devi
Haven't touched a CD since I bought my iPod one year ago. I had around 150 of them, they are all boxed up and put away and I will never deal with them again. Who would want to bother searching through a stack of discs when you can scroll through a playlist or browse for an artist? No more putting 20 of them back in their cases the morning after a party, no more ugly CD towers... I am keen on consolidation and space-saving, so my entire system and music collection consists of iPod and Bose Wave radio. In other words, what used to easily take up a few large boxes (stereo system and hundreds of CDs and storage rack) now fits inside a shoe box. Not to mention the freedom and flexibility that playlists and the shuffle option offer...

I hear ya! Ain't technology great? (And specifically Apple?) :cool:

[wowser]

i suppose some people will be so young that they would have got into music after mp3s hit big, so they would hardly have any. i still buy CDs second hand from amazon.

[Counterfit]

I finally got around to counting, and I have about 60-70. Not quite as many as I thought, but still enough for almost 5 days of straight listening.